Natalee Case Discussion #810 3/21/09 - 3/24/09

[hotping]

Good Night Janet! 

[texasmom]

All I can say ... if Fred Golba and his canine locate any remains in that pond tomorrow ... I will rejoice on one hand ... Natalee Holloway can at long last come hom but ... on the other I will know in my heart that those remains had been planted.

Think about it.  Kyle Kingman scanned that pond when the water was low ... perfect conditions.  He was convince there was nothing Natalee Holloway related.

Around the same time there was private search for another missing person and ... there was nothing discover related to the Natalee Holloway.

Then in May, 2008 the area of the pond was dry.  Anything Natalee Holloway related could have been seen with the naked eye.

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!

Thank you MuffyBee for that last edit of my spelling errors.  I did not even have to request.


Janet
9:41 PM PT

Good night Janet!  

[Keepthefaith]

from the wayback machine in my mind
and I don't remember who shared it via PM/email:

the chatter was that Golba was unethical,
that he was strong-arming donations from locals

he was thrown off/made to leave certain properties

at the time we didn't know what to think,
sorta saw it as part of the disinformation campaign ...
and IIRC it wasn't referenced anywhere by MSM

but now, w/ the laughable circumstances re this latest search,
that very early info does indeed sound reliable

Your thoughts are always appreciated!

[Tibrogargan]

Oldiebutgoodie - I have become very disillusioned over the years after seeing pictures proven to be photoshopped, documents that have been falsified and all manner of devious attempts to thwart the course of justice.  Now I really only believe that which I know has been said by Beth and Dave and their legal advisers.  Sad but necessary I feel.

I don't think the Monkeys here and all the hard work they've done deserve to be cast under suspicion. I think every thinking person with a brain will take every scrap of evidence that's been produced or displayed here at SM with their own grain of salt and employ their own analytical skills but that's a far cry from casting aspersions on an entire group of dedicated people who just want Natalee to come home. People should think it all through. Nothing wrong with that.

However, I have to also take with a BIG FAT GRAIN OF SALT anyone who comes along to negate or blunt the importance and the integrity of what the Monkeys are doing here at SM. Whose interests are served by doing that? Natalee's? I don't think so.

OK you seem to be trying to make something out of nothing here - my comments did not cast any aspersions on any of the good and hard working monkeys.  I have the greatest respect for all the Monkeys that have put years of work and study into trying to solve all parts of this case.  All the doubts and pessimism I have relate to anything and everything coming out of Aruba be it by way of ALE or AHATA.

[Keepthefaith]

Good Night Janet! 

GoodNight Janet!

[MuffyBee]

Good night Janet, and any other monkeys headed to the bunkey I might have missed 

[Tamikosmom]

Good Night Janet! 

GoodNight Janet!

Keepthefaith

Your Huskys lost.  I am so sorry.

 

Janet

[Lifesong]

All I can say ... if Fred Golba and his canine locate any remains in that pond tomorrow ... I will rejoice on one hand ... Natalee Holloway can at long last come hom but ... on the other I will know in my heart that those remains had been planted.

Think about it.  Kyle Kingman scanned that pond when the water was low ... perfect conditions.  He was convince there was nothing Natalee Holloway related.

Around the same time there was private search for another missing person and ... there was nothing discover related to the Natalee Holloway.

Then in May, 2008 the area of the pond was dry.  Anything Natalee Holloway related could have been seen with the naked eye.

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!

Thank you MuffyBee for that last edit of my spelling errors.  I did not even have to request.


Janet
9:41 PM PT

But...but...but....


Janet!

You can't say goodnight without your laughing girl!

She's my favorite!!

    

[Keepthefaith]

Good Night Janet! 

GoodNight Janet!

Keepthefaith

Your Huskys lost.  I am so sorry.

 

Janet

They played hard which is all you can ask.Then let the chips fall where they may!

[texasmom]

Truth & Justice for Natalee!

[Tibrogargan]

The timing is impeccable in regards to the search of the pond..Why now?That's the million dollar question.WHY NOW??What are we getting close to,and to whom?

you don't have someone show up to search a full pond for bones, unless it's a diver, right?

Just before this happened:

Lifesong exposed CAPS
PORT was exposed/investigated
Silvetti/Schaefer connections

And your thoughts in regards to these three things Tibro..Conjecture,Supposition,and or facts..TIA

Not sure that I understand what the purpose of your questions are - but maybe you could explain to me how these three things if/when proven will bring us any closer to mailing the three goons and Paulus for their crime against Natalee

Just asking your thoughts..Is there suppose to be a purpose other then finding out ones thoughts?Figured maybe you would have some insight but,maybe i'm wrong?

I spent many hours in the Shango thread and questioned Caps several times and only once got a straight answer to one of my questions.  That was where I asked him if he was on Aruba at the time of Natalee's disappearance and he answered "No".  Other than that I queried his varying skills with the English language and even queried his logic, which appeared to change every time he posted. 

As far as the Persistence search I have no problems with their searching for Natalee at the same time as their mapping for oil companies in the same waters, but I do feel they could have been up front about the combined exercises.  I do have a problem with them continuing to ask for donations, to be able to prolong the search, up to and including their departure date and also for allowing all or any evidence to fall into the hands of the ALE.

Silvetti and Schaeffer connections I have delved deeply into as I have less time available now than I did a few months ago.

[Tamikosmom]

All I can say ... if Fred Golba and his canine locate any remains in that pond tomorrow ... I will rejoice on one hand ... Natalee Holloway can at long last come hom but ... on the other I will know in my heart that those remains had been planted.

Think about it.  Kyle Kingman scanned that pond when the water was low ... perfect conditions.  He was convince there was nothing Natalee Holloway related.

Around the same time there was private search for another missing person and ... there was nothing discover related to the Natalee Holloway.

Then in May, 2008 the area of the pond was dry.  Anything Natalee Holloway related could have been seen with the naked eye.

GOOD NIGHT MONKEYS!!  GOOD NIGHT ZOOKEEPERS!!

Thank you MuffyBee for that last edit of my spelling errors.  I did not even have to request.


Janet
9:41 PM PT

But...but...but....


Janet!

You can't say goodnight without your laughing girl!

She's my favorite!!

    

It was way past her bedtime but ... I peeked into her room and ... there she was ... just lying in bed laughing away.

 

Good Night Lifesong.

Janet
10:00 PM PT

[Tamikosmom]

texasmom

I appreciate you allowing me custody of "laughing girl".  However ... if you are missing her and ... I am sure you are ... I will afford you visitation at any time.

Janet

[Lifesong]

It was way past her bedtime but ... I peeked into her room and ... there she was ... just lying in bed laughing away.

 

Good Night Lifesong.

Janet
10:00 PM PT

    

Thank you Janet!

Good night to you too.
 

[Keepthefaith]

The timing is impeccable in regards to the search of the pond..Why now?That's the million dollar question.WHY NOW??What are we getting close to,and to whom?

you don't have someone show up to search a full pond for bones, unless it's a diver, right?

Just before this happened:

Lifesong exposed CAPS
PORT was exposed/investigated
Silvetti/Schaefer connections

And your thoughts in regards to these three things Tibro..Conjecture,Supposition,and or facts..TIA

Not sure that I understand what the purpose of your questions are - but maybe you could explain to me how these three things if/when proven will bring us any closer to mailing the three goons and Paulus for their crime against Natalee

Just asking your thoughts..Is there suppose to be a purpose other then finding out ones thoughts?Figured maybe you would have some insight but,maybe i'm wrong?

I spent many hours in the Shango thread and questioned Caps several times and only once got a straight answer to one of my questions.  That was where I asked him if he was on Aruba at the time of Natalee's disappearance and he answered "No".  Other than that I queried his varying skills with the English language and even queried his logic, which appeared to change every time he posted. 

As far as the Persistence search I have no problems with their searching for Natalee at the same time as their mapping for oil companies in the same waters, but I do feel they could have been up front about the combined exercises.  I do have a problem with them continuing to ask for donations, to be able to prolong the search, up to and including their departure date and also for allowing all or any evidence to fall into the hands of the ALE.

Silvetti and Schaeffer connections I have delved deeply into as I have less time available now than I did a few months ago.

Thanx Tibro!I think with CapsLockWizard,and or his witness potentially being the catalyst in regards to this latest search,It will be interesting to see how it pans out.I personally believe a lot is at stake..Lot's of credibilty is on the line..JMOO.In terms of Justice for NATALEE HOLLOWAY.I think it is a step closer.Again.This is just my opinion..

[Tibrogargan]

The timing is impeccable in regards to the search of the pond..Why now?That's the million dollar question.WHY NOW??What are we getting close to,and to whom?

you don't have someone show up to search a full pond for bones, unless it's a diver, right?

Just before this happened:

Lifesong exposed CAPS
PORT was exposed/investigated
Silvetti/Schaefer connections

And your thoughts in regards to these three things Tibro..Conjecture,Supposition,and or facts..TIA

Not sure that I understand what the purpose of your questions are - but maybe you could explain to me how these three things if/when proven will bring us any closer to mailing the three goons and Paulus for their crime against Natalee

Just asking your thoughts..Is there suppose to be a purpose other then finding out ones thoughts?Figured maybe you would have some insight but,maybe i'm wrong?

I spent many hours in the Shango thread and questioned Caps several times and only once got a straight answer to one of my questions.  That was where I asked him if he was on Aruba at the time of Natalee's disappearance and he answered "No".  Other than that I queried his varying skills with the English language and even queried his logic, which appeared to change every time he posted. 

As far as the Persistence search I have no problems with their searching for Natalee at the same time as their mapping for oil companies in the same waters, but I do feel they could have been up front about the combined exercises.  I do have a problem with them continuing to ask for donations, to be able to prolong the search, up to and including their departure date and also for allowing all or any evidence to fall into the hands of the ALE.

Silvetti and Schaeffer connections I have delved deeply into as I have less time available now than I did a few months ago.

Thanx Tibro!I think with CapsLockWizard,and or his witness potentially being the catalyst in regards to this latest search,It will be interesting to see how it pans out.I personally believe a lot is at stake..Lot's of credibilty is on the line..JMOO.In terms of Justice for NATALEE HOLLOWAY.I think it is a step closer.Again.This is just my opinion..

correction :  I have NOT delved deeply...

I agree KFT - a lot of reputations are at stake on this latest venture both officially and on the internet.  It should prove to be an interesting week. 

Time to commence dinner preparations here.  Will be in the rafters again as soon as possible.

[wreck]

I've been gone all day (OKIE State - no more  )

So---- Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba came up empty handed???? 

[Keepthefaith]

The timing is impeccable in regards to the search of the pond..Why now?That's the million dollar question.WHY NOW??What are we getting close to,and to whom?

you don't have someone show up to search a full pond for bones, unless it's a diver, right?

Just before this happened:

Lifesong exposed CAPS
PORT was exposed/investigated
Silvetti/Schaefer connections

And your thoughts in regards to these three things Tibro..Conjecture,Supposition,and or facts..TIA

Not sure that I understand what the purpose of your questions are - but maybe you could explain to me how these three things if/when proven will bring us any closer to mailing the three goons and Paulus for their crime against Natalee

Just asking your thoughts..Is there suppose to be a purpose other then finding out ones thoughts?Figured maybe you would have some insight but,maybe i'm wrong?

I spent many hours in the Shango thread and questioned Caps several times and only once got a straight answer to one of my questions.  That was where I asked him if he was on Aruba at the time of Natalee's disappearance and he answered "No".  Other than that I queried his varying skills with the English language and even queried his logic, which appeared to change every time he posted. 

As far as the Persistence search I have no problems with their searching for Natalee at the same time as their mapping for oil companies in the same waters, but I do feel they could have been up front about the combined exercises.  I do have a problem with them continuing to ask for donations, to be able to prolong the search, up to and including their departure date and also for allowing all or any evidence to fall into the hands of the ALE.

Silvetti and Schaeffer connections I have delved deeply into as I have less time available now than I did a few months ago.

Thanx Tibro!I think with CapsLockWizard,and or his witness potentially being the catalyst in regards to this latest search,It will be interesting to see how it pans out.I personally believe a lot is at stake..Lot's of credibilty is on the line..JMOO.In terms of Justice for NATALEE HOLLOWAY.I think it is a step closer.Again.This is just my opinion..

correction :  I have NOT delved deeply...

I agree KFT - a lot of reputations are at stake on this latest venture both officially and on the internet.  It should prove to be an interesting week. 

Time to commence dinner preparations here.  Will be in the rafters again as soon as possible.

Thanx Tibro and have a great evening!

[Artcolley]

The timing is impeccable in regards to the search of the pond..Why now?That's the million dollar question.WHY NOW??What are we getting close to,and to whom?

you don't have someone show up to search a full pond for bones, unless it's a diver, right?

Just before this happened:

Lifesong exposed CAPS
PORT was exposed/investigated
Silvetti/Schaefer connections

And your thoughts in regards to these three things Tibro..Conjecture,Supposition,and or facts..TIA

Not sure that I understand what the purpose of your questions are - but maybe you could explain to me how these three things if/when proven will bring us any closer to mailing the three goons and Paulus for their crime against Natalee

Just asking your thoughts..Is there suppose to be a purpose other then finding out ones thoughts?Figured maybe you would have some insight but,maybe i'm wrong?

I spent many hours in the Shango thread and questioned Caps several times and only once got a straight answer to one of my questions.  That was where I asked him if he was on Aruba at the time of Natalee's disappearance and he answered "No".  Other than that I queried his varying skills with the English language and even queried his logic, which appeared to change every time he posted. 

As far as the Persistence search I have no problems with their searching for Natalee at the same time as their mapping for oil companies in the same waters, but I do feel they could have been up front about the combined exercises.  I do have a problem with them continuing to ask for donations, to be able to prolong the search, up to and including their departure date and also for allowing all or any evidence to fall into the hands of the ALE.

Silvetti and Schaeffer connections I have delved deeply into as I have less time available now than I did a few months ago.

Thanx Tibro!I think with CapsLockWizard,and or his witness potentially being the catalyst in regards to this latest search,It will be interesting to see how it pans out.I personally believe a lot is at stake..Lot's of credibilty is on the line..JMOO.In terms of Justice for NATALEE HOLLOWAY.I think it is a step closer.Again.This is just my opinion..

correction :  I have NOT delved deeply...

I agree KFT - a lot of reputations are at stake on this latest venture both officially and on the internet.  It should prove to be an interesting week. 

Time to commence dinner preparations here.  Will be in the rafters again as soon as possible.

NIte TIb, always nice seeing you!

[Artcolley]

I've been gone all day (OKIE State - no more  )

So---- Rhino "Lighttanks" Golba came up empty handed???? 

From what I've read, it appears he hasn't even begun to search yet.