Lively Case Discussion #594 3/29 - 4/1/2007

[San]

Police: Teens Used Mobile Phone to Film Rape of 12-Year-Old Girl

Friday, March 30, 2007

VIENNA, Austria —

Three teenage boys took turns raping a 12-year-old girl, filmed the assault with a mobile phone camera and showed the video to classmates, Austrian authorities said Friday.

Police said the rape happened after a birthday party in Freistadt in the province of Upper Austria, and that the girl was assaulted after she became intoxicated and fell asleep. It was not immediately clear when the crime occurred.

Investigators detained the three boys, ages 13, 15, and 16, after they showed a clip of the rape to classmates at school and a student who saw it alerted authorities, police said.

The two older suspects would be formally charged in juvenile court with sexual abuse, officials said. They said the youngest could not be held criminally responsible.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262647,00.html

Now where is Sander's phone?

The ALE took it.

[San]

Police: Teens Used Mobile Phone to Film Rape of 12-Year-Old Girl

Friday, March 30, 2007

VIENNA, Austria —

Three teenage boys took turns raping a 12-year-old girl, filmed the assault with a mobile phone camera and showed the video to classmates, Austrian authorities said Friday.

Police said the rape happened after a birthday party in Freistadt in the province of Upper Austria, and that the girl was assaulted after she became intoxicated and fell asleep. It was not immediately clear when the crime occurred.

Investigators detained the three boys, ages 13, 15, and 16, after they showed a clip of the rape to classmates at school and a student who saw it alerted authorities, police said.

The two older suspects would be formally charged in juvenile court with sexual abuse, officials said. They said the youngest could not be held criminally responsible.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262647,00.html

Now where is Sander's phone?

The ALE took it.

or he gave it to someone for safekeeping.

[friend of monkeys]

CAT.....u look like u have your paws full....lol

I trust the voices in my head......but enjoy having them confirmed for my own sanityand then giving the a-hole tryin to mess with me large order of " up your a$$)   I am going to start taking gun classes.

[Dayhiker]

Now where is Sander's phone?

The ALE took it.

or he gave it to someone for safekeeping.[/quote]


It's in that black hole the Arubans call the evidence bin. Evidence goes in and is mysteriously transported to another universe.

[San]

Now where is Sander's phone?

The ALE took it.

or he gave it to someone for safekeeping.

It's in that black hole the Arubans call the evidence bin. Evidence goes in and is mysteriously transported to another universe.[/quote]
I wish they would put Joran in that black hole.  No one would miss that waste of life anyway.

[JusticeforNatalee]

If you are going to stand up for Natalee at other venues,
here are a few general suggestions:

1) Have a permit and apply early. Richard can advise you on this step.

2) Have one big professionally made sign that draws attention and gives focus. Play it safe with the message.
(such as Justice for Natalee). You can always make your own signs later and add other messages.
Our sign didn't cost a lot and it wasn't too heavy. When you get the permit, ask how large the sign can be.

3) Put Natalee's photo on your sign. The sign maker could not or would not do this--so we just taped on the photo. Many people remembered
Natalee from her picture.

4) Have informational handouts or flyers.

5) Talk to people.

6) Wear Natalee shirts--especially with her image.

7) Make it clear that you are a volunteer.

Give out stickers, buttons, magnets, or something of that nature.
We didn't have a lot of money for that but did manage to give away a few
little things.

These are just suggestions. of course. And if you can send buttons or stickers or help someone going, please do so and get the stuff to them early. We can all help each other and Natalee in some way.

[Dayhiker]

It's in that black hole the Arubans call the evidence bin. Evidence goes in and is mysteriously transported to another universe.

I wish they would put Joran in that black hole.  No one would miss that waste of life anyway.

From the way it sounds, San, a bunch on the island would like to transport him and the goonfather as far away from Aruba as possible, including the sweatman's vastly eroded base of judge buddies.

[JusticeforNatalee]

And the most important thing is:

OBEY THE LAW.

 


Also, when you apply for the permit,
you might want to call it an
 awareness campaign or distribution of
informational/educational leaflets--something of that nature.

Again, Richard is the one to ask about the permit.

[San]

If you are going to stand up for Natalee at other venues,
here are a few general suggestions:

1) Have a permit and apply early. Richard can advise you on this step.

2) Have one big professionally made sign that draws attention and gives focus. Play it safe with the message.
(such as Justice for Natalee). You can always make your own signs later and add other messages.
Our sign didn't cost a lot and it wasn't too heavy. When you get the permit, ask how large the sign can be.

3) Put Natalee's photo on your sign. The sign maker could not or would not do this--so we just taped on the photo. Many people remembered
Natalee from her picture.

4) Have informational handouts or flyers.

5) Talk to people.

6) Wear Natalee shirts--especially with her image.

7) Make it clear that you are a volunteer.

Give out stickers, buttons, magnets, or something of that nature.
We didn't have a lot of money for that but did manage to give away a few
little things.

These are just suggestions. of course. And if you can send buttons or stickers or help someone going, please do so and get the stuff to them early. We can all help each other and Natalee in some way.

Thanks these are great tips.

[klaasend]

Justicefornatalee - thanks for your tips.  I've posted them in our thread for Tourism Show notices!

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1003

[friend of monkeys]

Justice----u did great!

[friend of monkeys]

Justicefornatalee - thanks for your tips.  I've posted them in our thread for Tourism Show notices!

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1003

Klass-----luv your little chickie.   I have been researching sites for info from phone #'s.  most u pay per use ($15 for phone....$49 for a single background/criminal check).......)  do u know of any alternatives?

[klaasend]

Maybe for the next trade show we can enlarge this photo and pass it out  

[klaasend]

Justicefornatalee - thanks for your tips.  I've posted them in our thread for Tourism Show notices!

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1003

Klass-----luv your little chickie.   I have been researching sites for info from phone #'s.  most u pay per use ($15 for phone....$49 for a single background/criminal check).......)  do u know of any alternatives?

FOM - sorry but I don't know anything about those sites but I'm sure someone here will.  I'll watch for any responses to your question and make sure to let you know.

[friend of monkeys]

Klass.....thanks.....i think the sick to my stomache feeling is good to go on...for now....FOM with a bikini a beer and a gun.....nice

[JusticeforNatalee]

Klaas--Can you transfer over suggestion #8 also.

It's pretty important: OBEY THE LAW.

[klaasend]

Klaas--Can you transfer over suggestion #8 also.

It's pretty important: OBEY THE LAW.

Sure, will do!

[friend of monkeys]

Have a good day monkeys.  Thanks Klass.

[nonesuche]

Maybe for the next trade show we can enlarge this photo and pass it out  

heck I'd like to see this go up on a couple of billboards    

it's tragic but interesting to see NCState's basketball coach's son arrested for felony assault and a host of other charges this week, for not once has the father cried foul or asked for special privileges - all he's done is cooperate fully with the investigation. Unlike the black hole Paulus has engineered and I do still feel he had the goods on so many that it allowed him to do this.  

[Tamikosmom]

FREDDIE AND HIS CAMERA

THE DECATUR DAILY
August 30, 2005

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — ...... A third man was arrested with the Kalpoes but his lawyer said Monday that it was unrelated to Holloway's disappearance.

Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis, a friend of van der Sloot and the Kalpoes, was arrested on suspicion of having unspecified "physical contact" with a female minor, said his lawyer, Diana Emerencia.

Zedan-Arambatzis, 21, is also suspected of photographing the girl in "tempting poses" and showing the images to other people, Emerencia said.

The Kalpoe brothers and van der Sloot are also suspected of involvement in the incidents, which allegedly occurred before Holloway disappeared, she said.

Emerencia said Zedan-Arambatzis has denied having any physical contact with the girl or taking photos of her, but has admitted to being present when the photos were taken.

The prosecutor's office declined to comment on the case