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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Here's the whole article:
http://www.kcra.com/news/19181009/detail.html
Sources: Huckaby's Claims Cantu Death An 'Accident'
New Search Warrants Issued In Cantu Case
POSTED: 4:56 pm PDT April 14, 2009
UPDATED: 5:55 pm PDT April 14, 2009
TRACY, Calif. -- KCRA 3 has learned that investigators close to the case said Melissa Huckaby admitted Tuesday that Sandra Cantu's death was an accident.
Investigators also told KCRA 3 that Huckaby said she wrote the note she said she found the day after Cantu's disappearance.
According to Huckaby, the note said, "Cantu, Suitcase, Water. The word 'suitcase' was misspelled, and there were two street names including the word 'Whitehall.'"
Two new search warrants were issued Tuesday in relation to the case.
The focus of one warrant was the West Clover Road Baptist Church and the other was for the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park home where Huckaby, 28, lived.
Huckaby is accused of killing the 8-year-old.
The search of the church was completed, but officers said the search of Huckaby's home is still under way.
Huckaby, who is Sunday school teacher at the church, was arrested late Friday, four days after Cantu's body was found stuffed in a suitcase in an irrigation pond north of Tracy.
Huckaby told a Tracy Press reporter the suitcase was hers but it had been stolen the day Cantu went missing.
"I wish they could have found her a lot sooner, if they would have followed up on this a lot sooner," Huckaby said earlier Friday before her arrest.
Authorities have not said how or where Cantu was killed. They have not discussed a possible motive. But the official court complaint suggested the child was killed on or about March 27, the day she was reported missing from Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park.
Huckaby did not enter a plea when she faced a judge in a Stockton courtroom Tuesday.
A public defender was assigned to her. She will next appear in court on April 24 for further arraignment.
The special circumstances in a complaint filed Tuesday make Huckaby eligible for the death penalty if prosecutors choose to pursue that option.
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Larry King Live....Cyril Wecht (?) said that possibly the object used to rape her was either in the suitcase with Sandra or it was still.....can't even say it....
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Tams
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Could MH have been the one who left the letter supposedly from Sandra to her killer at the memorial site for Sandra ?
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 14, 2009, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 09:10:52 PM
Like I said earlier, premeditated rape/abuse, accidental death...maybe. I still think someone else is involved.
Since LE is going back to the church and home, are you thinking the grandparents, which is a possibility, maybe Fred Williams, but if that were the case, wouldn't LE be going to his home?
His home hasn't been searched, nor his car's taken....correct??
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I don't believe there is anyone else involved. I believe she acted alone.
There was a criminal psychologist on earlier that explained a great theory to me that made a lot of sense.
That Melissa was more than likely sexually abused as a child...and due to all the recent stress in her life, it brought it all back up to the surface. Perhaps even blaming what happened to her as a child for where she was at in her life now.
She fixated on Sandra for whatever reason and reenacted her childhood trauma out on her and killed her in rage. Much like she probably wanted to kill her abuser.
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Quote from: Maven on April 14, 2009, 09:05:39 PM
Sources: Huckaby Claims Cantu Death 'An Accident'
TRACY, Calif. -- KCRA 3 has learned that investigators close to the case said Melissa Huckaby admitted Tuesday that Sandra Cantu's death was an accident.
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Thanks Maven.
Am thinking Melissa admitting this is likely what sent LE back to the church and the home. She may have added other details LE hasn't released. They could have gone back to see if things could have happened the way she said, whatever it was.
I'm just hoping they luminol that "church"/shed/basement. Perhaps not for Sandra's case, since LE has said she didn't have marks on her body, but maybe for anyone else who may have been harmed there in the past.
Something is very wrong with this whole picture, as in what we've been told so far. And I hope that LE gets to the truth of the whole thing. It's looking more and more like a sex ring/cult, with Melissa as the scapegoat, and others who are the responsible ones, hiding in the shadows.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: cookie on April 14, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Could MH have been the one who left the letter supposedly from Sandra to her killer at the memorial site for Sandra ?
Very possible, I'm sure they have already analyzed and compared the notes to see if the same person wrote them. Maybe the new search warrants are looking for paper that matches what the note(s) was written on.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: AZSunny on April 14, 2009, 09:27:29 PM
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 09:10:52 PM
Like I said earlier, premeditated rape/abuse, accidental death...maybe. I still think someone else is involved.
Since LE is going back to the church and home, are you thinking the grandparents, which is a possibility, maybe Fred Williams, but if that were the case, wouldn't LE be going to his home?
His home hasn't been searched, nor his car's taken....correct??
Not that I'm aware of.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Wykky....did you read that LE said that Sandra didn't have any marks on her body? I missed that..
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I really want to here more on this was an accident.
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Quote from: cookie on April 14, 2009, 09:35:13 PM
Wykky....did you read that LE said that Sandra didn't have any marks on her body? I missed that..
Cookie the quote was..."Sources say no visible signs of trauma were apparent during the initial examination."
Initial exam would be upon opening the suitcase. Which means there was no body parts chopped off, no dent in her head, no gun shots, no stab wounds.
It doesn't say what or if any trauma existed at all. jmo
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Quote from: Tams on April 14, 2009, 09:12:03 PM
It isn't about MH wanting to have sex with girls... it's more likely about MH performing an act, probably for photo/video reproduction, for sale or distribution to the sickos of the pedophile world. . . most likely via a group/ring that she is a part of. (And it is seeming more and more probable that that may include family/congregation/neighborhood persons.) Wouldn't be surprised at all if she has had the same done to her throughout her childhood, thus essentially being 'brainwashed' into this group/cult/societies' behavior. She did not do this alone, IMHO. But the fact that she botched her role in whatever the plan was for Sandra - which most probably did not include death - means that she is taking the fall. Hopefully she will begin to purge everything she knows.
I agree Tams.
Even if all the above is true, as some of us think, LE will likely need to put Melissa's daughter into protective custody, before Melissa will spill the whole truth. The reason?
*If* all the above is true, her daughter will be in danger of being next, if Melissa starts talking. And I am sure Melissa knows that. LE won't necessarily know just how widespread this whole thing could be, and if even one person in the possible group is not brought to justice (no matter who they are), then that will be the one that the group will expect to do revenge on their behalf.
It's the way these rings/cults typically work. If anyone ever talks or wants to leave the group, fear has been instilled in them as to what will happen as a result to their own children. That info is drilled into their minds from the very beginning, and keeps folks bound to the ring/cult.
In one sense, I do hope that Melissa acted alone. However, my gut feeling says no.
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Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 06:02:35 PM
Quote from: Kat_Gram on April 14, 2009, 05:59:26 PM
Whatever happened, it happened quickly. Sandra was reported missing at 8 PM.
Is everyone forgetting that there was a report that Sandra was drugged ?
So, the idea that Melissa went ape poo at something Sandra did is a no go and way out of line.
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Sandra did nothing except be there.
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It happened so quickly it almost seems pre meditated.
I'm thinking the sexual part was pre-meditated but the death was not expected.
That's my gut, too.
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 14, 2009, 08:57:51 PM
Quote from: Blink34 on April 14, 2009, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Dolce on April 14, 2009, 07:29:10 PM
For some reason I still feel that she is covering for someone or someones. It could be her own child, her grandfather, sig-other, a porn ring of persons.....I just do not buy that this woman is the only responsible person/party for Sandra's demise.
Nor do I Dolce. Add to that they are back at the church and her home today. Not adding up.
ps. hey +2 babies!
Why in the world would they need to go back to the church and home, you would think that they had done a thorough job
and especially considering their was a service Sunday in that church
. Could Melissa have said something more to bring LE back to search?
I agree.
That church should have remained a crime scene for much longer. Hey ... think about how much time lapse from when Sandra was reported missing and when ... the church finally became of location of interest. What evidence was distroyed in that time period.
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Quote from: pink angel on April 14, 2009, 09:43:32 PM
Quote from: cookie on April 14, 2009, 09:35:13 PM
Wykky....did you read that LE said that Sandra didn't have any marks on her body? I missed that..
Cookie the quote was..."
Sources say no visible signs of trauma were apparent during the initial examination."
Initial exam would be upon opening the suitcase. Which means there was no body parts chopped off, no dent in her head, no gun shots, no stab wounds.
It doesn't say what or if any trauma existed at all. jmo
thanks Pinky....
this I do remember reading....
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Quote from: Wyks on April 14, 2009, 09:28:34 PM
Thanks Maven.
Am thinking Melissa admitting this is likely what sent LE back to the church and the home. She may have added other details LE hasn't released. They could have gone back to see if things could have happened the way she said, whatever it was.
I'm just hoping they luminol that "church"/shed/basement. Perhaps not for Sandra's case, since LE has said she didn't have marks on her body, but maybe for anyone else who may have been harmed there in the past.
Something is very wrong with this whole picture, as in what we've been told so far. And I hope that LE gets to the truth of the whole thing. It's looking more and more like a sex ring/cult, with Melissa as the scapegoat, and others who are the responsible ones, hiding in the shadows.
IA, I think they definitely knew what they were looking for and probably even knew where find it. The church itself is very odd to me, and like you said I hope they luminol that place, something is wrong with that church.
I don't think this is the first time MH has participated in something like this, she took her to the church for a reason, and I really don't think Sandra was the first. Just hearing the charges read against her gave me chills, I don't think someone with no history of doing similar acts would start as violently as MH allegedly did.
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 14, 2009, 08:13:20 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 14, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
I just heard a psychiatrist on the radio talking about female sexual predators. They said 75% of them have been abused themselves.
I am sure not going to be surprised if this is the case with Melissa.
Neither will I. In fact, I would be more surprised to hear that it was not the case. I have to agree with Blink and the others who are really questioning this and the fact that there just has to be more to it.
I DO think that this is bigger than we thought, but what I am starting to lean toward more and more is that the part we don't know has to do with her family, that "church", and something that might have been going on for a long time. I just have this sick feeling that there is something very vile and evil at the root of all of this. Something that is not seen often at all.
I could be totally wrong as this is all gut feeling more than anything. I hope I'm wrong, in fact.
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Wykky....did you read that LE said that Sandra didn't have any marks on her body? I missed that..
Yeah, think it was the good Sarge that said it. It was after they found her body, within a few days or so. Yet he is real good at saying things without saying anything at all. heh. Sandra could have been horrifically abused, without leaving a mark on the 'outside' of her body at all. Just saying..
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