Haleigh Marie Cummings #26 10/9/09 - 10/15/09

[islandmonkey]

I have a question and I know I read this, but where    When Ron was working at PDM, they didn't have the fingerprint method of clocking in, they used another means. I thought the fingerprint method came after Ron left the job? I could be wrong, just thought I read that 

I read that too, but who knows if it's true. Although, if he was driving a forklift in "the back 40", getting off the property without being seen would hardly be a problem IMO

[Heart]

Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.

How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.

That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also.

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?

I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved

#  hangnon Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896

[N2WISHN]

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved


Thanks for the info Island. Makes me wonder what Ron is afraid of...........

[Wyks]

oops hope Ronald did not go after Cobra if he read this http://www.bloggernews.net/122596

Cobra made a statement about HaLeigh not being Ronalds...have any of you heard this rumor?

Am pedaling fast to catch up!  But ya know, if true, THIS could make me sit up and go, 'oh snit!'   

[islandmonkey]

Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.

How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.

That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also.

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?

I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved

#  hangnon Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896

Don't know if that's true or not, however if I were Crystal I doubt I'd trust anythig he did because it seems to be all a cover my @ss mode. I'll find out though if this is true or not.

[mymonkey]

I would like to know if this is a private counsler or state appointed that Jr. goes to, if it is state appointed I feel like Jr. is once again not getting the proper help he needs....sorry but DCF has not made any effort in his best interest.

[islandmonkey]

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved


Thanks for the info Island. Makes me wonder what Ron is afraid of...........

The TRUTH!
he can't handle the truth (sorry, couldn't help myself  ), and the fact he texted Misty about Donna being a plant just reinforces it.





Found this and Misty OR anyone make her read this:


Misty,

As a new day comes to Welaka, Florida, look around you. Look out the back door of the trailer you are living in at the pile of old tires and the collection of junk. Look at the people your life’s choices have placed you with. You are married to an individual who is what he will be for the rest of his life. What you see is what you will get for the rest of your life also. There is no desire or capacity for change. He is a wannabe thug with his own mother’s first name tattooed across his chest. Not your name Misty, but Teresa his momma. What do you see for yourself as a future in this deal?

I was in Palatka at Riverfront Park for Haleigh’s Closet when you arrived. I saw your beautiful smile when you got out of the back of the car along with your mother in law. I saw a 17 year old girl who, instead of being escorted to the prom as the homecoming queen, watched her husband and his wannabe thug swagger leave you with his GGM and mother so he could be the first one to the tent where the mother of his children was at. He didn’t even acknowledge your presence did he?

No matter what actually happened on February 9th and 10th in Satsuma, there is only one thing that can help you now, Misty. Tell the truth today. Tell the truth about what happened to a little girl who adored you. There can now only be one winner in this situation and it’s going to be whoever tells the truth first. No matter your involvement, the truth will improve your position.

Misty, tell the truth today.

Papa





From H4H site and LLM Papa

[Heart]

I think I will wait until I hear some actual facts from law enforcement. seems the reporters that have latched on have been shown to be errrr embellishing on the information to sensationalize and gain readers so, I think that it is safer to wait until I hear it from the horses mouth.
I think that all involved have failed this child in the worst way and none of them deserve a pass. That is my opinion and I will stand by that because I am thinking of Haleigh and on her side. I am not friends with either side of the family and have never spoken to them,nor do I want to. I would not associate myself with either side. I am on Haleigh's side and looking at this in an objective manner. Both sides have said and done things to set my hinky meter off. I feel for the children involved. What I think we see here is parents that are parenting as they were taught by their own parents and to me,that is sad,what awful lives they must have had growing up. What a pity that this cycle will continue. Now, I must go for a bit, I have to set up sleeping areas for a mom and baby who were kicked out by the baby's father and have no where else to go. I will check back if I have time. Take care all.

I agree with you that the reporting on this case leaves much to be desired. It's like they all are putting their own slant to what they report and are doing it just for the fame and hits to their websites...........

I agree!

To add to the problem, the legitimate news agencies are not bothering to take the time to even get their facts straight!
 

Have been almost since day one.

[N2WISHN]

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896

There is just too much going on for me to even follow. They each want a therapist of their own choice.......Poor kid......Why aren't they concerned about finding one that he likes and is comfortable with.......

[Searching]

I just peeked in and well, there was NO proof that Ron refused to take Jr for counseling.. I found it odd myself that on the VERY day she was to return him from his 6 week stay with her,she hauls Ron into court under new allegations. I am not wearing blinders. I just think it was another attempt at taking custody or trying to pile up allegations thinking it will help her to win but in reality, it is hurting the search for her daughter.. JMO

[mymonkey]

Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.

How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.

That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also.

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?

I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved

#  hangnon Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896

Don't know if that's true or not, however if I were Crystal I doubt I'd trust anythig he did because it seems to be all a cover my @ss mode. I'll find out though if this is true or not.

About the gun in the home in a unlocked closet....we hear on the news every day of children playing with guns and accidental shooting another child...now what if Jr. decides he will act out what he saw Ronald doing.

[Heart]

Art Harris on JVM talking about Donna Brock and Misty.....says Donna Brock spoke with police for 2 hours today ...says that there is some interesting information but they can 't tell us yet....ugh!

I read somewhere here that Courtney Ballinger, the victim of the  road rage incident, is related to Steph Watt, the reporter.  It is the road rage incident that blew Brock's cover as Misty's confidant.

How are you tonight Strayze? 
I know that it was just a matter of time that Misty would learn of Brock's role. 
Why Ron felt it necessary to warn Misty via text message that Brock was a plant while she was being interviewed on the Early Show, is beyond me.

That is appaarntly the 35,000 question, I bet LE would like an answer to that also.

I'll bet they would too.  I am becoming increasingly discouraged with LE. 
I hope they have something in the works, a plan, something that will
move this case forward and bring Haleigh home.

Me too Can You'd think at minimum they would at least get butterbean out of that house/trailer whatever they are living in at the moment and get that gun, Baker Act Ron and arrest them both for child endangerment

Looks like the best chance was just blown out of the water by FAB, and I also wonder if this is why Ron didn't want butterbean to rec'v counseling

Why any parent would not welcome counseling to a little boy whose sister has disappeared and the unknown circumstances as to what Butterbean may have seen, heard, witnessed or been frightened by that night is suspect in and of itself. imo.  There is simply no excuse.  Ron surely would have been advised how crucial this would be towards  Butterbeans' mental health. 
A gun in an unlocked closet?!  and Butterbean knows.  What the hell is wrong with these people!?

I thought he was getting counseling, did Ron put a stop to it? If that's the case, something is really wrong......That poor baby has to be traumatized by all this in addition to the lack of parenting.......

He is now, but Crystal had to take him to court to get it approved

#  hangnon Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 3:56 pm

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896

Don't know if that's true or not, however if I were Crystal I doubt I'd trust anythig he did because it seems to be all a cover my @ss mode. I'll find out though if this is true or not.

Also Butterbean missed his last counseling sessions or one recent one (I don't know how often he goes) because the couselor was ill.

[Wyks]

HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

snipped

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

“Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.


DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW

Wonder how many reports from monkeys across America will it TAKE for DCF to wake the heck up and take action to remove Jr??   

[Brandi]

Since we do want to be fair in dishing out tidbits of accurate information, Jr had already gone to Counseling with Ron BEFORE the court hearing took place. I am sure Crystal and Marie can verify that since they were both there. The issue was, it seems to me, that Crystal wanted Jr to see a counselor known to her attorney and not the counselor that Ron took Jr to. Makes me wonder if Crystal was really concerned that Jr see a counselor or if she was more concerned with Jr seeing a counselor hand picked by her attorney. Just another thing in this case that makes you go…hmmmmm.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/13/exclusive-how-geraldo-rivera-freaks-ronald-cummings/#comment-38896

There is just too much going on for me to even follow. They each want a therapist of their own choice.......Poor kid......Why aren't they concerned about finding one that he likes and is comfortable with.......

Exactly.

Parents need to be a united front for their kids.

I think some people have been trying to say this.

[penny for your thoughts]

guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt

[islandmonkey]

HaleighNewz AH: Ronald threatened to kill Misty and put gun in his mouth in front of Junior. http://ow.ly/u3hL
4 minutes ago from HootSuite

snipped

There, he says Ronald lead him to a closet, where he kept an assault rifle, with two clips, each holding 32 rounds, and pulled it out.

With his 3 year old son, Junior, watching, Miller tells me Cummings “made a statement that if he found out Misty had some involvement, he’d blow her teeth through the back of her head.

“Then, he put the (assault rifle) down on floor, butt first, and almost got on his knees, bent over, and put the barrel in his mouth, and says, ‘I’ll kill her, and then kill myself, and take a few others with me.’

“I said, ‘Ronald, give me that damn gun! You don’t need that gun around here. We don’t need anymore problems,’ and he said, ‘No, I’ll need this one more time.’

“And Junior is in the room, watching, and I’m thinking, ‘Here we go. He’s got a gun in the closet that doesn’t lock. It’s not in a locked gun case and there’s Junior in the house. It felt like child endangerment to me.


DCF WHERE IN THE HE77 ARE U????????????? REMOVE JR NOW

Wonder how many reports from monkeys across America will it TAKE for DCF to wake the heck up and take action to remove Jr??   

  Lot's I'm guessing! Pirate posted he number for DCF on twitter already

[higherhopes]

Hello all, been working alllll day again and just got caught up here.....Goodness what a lot of stuff going on....

I congradulate Crystal for doing like she is and not appearing on shows like The Early Show,the only reason they wanted her on there was so they could continue on with the war of who said this and who said that....If they want to show HaLeighs picture and keep her face out there they could do that without all this hoopla....Maybe she doesnt want to enter into all this glory seeking he said she said crap........

  It was reported before.....several times that Crystal calls LE on a daily basis to ask if they have anything new or if there is anything else she can do to help with the investigation....

  I understand about some wanting to say that Ronald and Crystal should stand together to find HaLeigh, but.....Ronald should have worried about standing with Crystal before HaLeigh came up missing, if he hadnt been so mad because she finally got the good sense to leave his butt, then HaLeigh could have been with her that night, He could have called her and said Im having some problems right now with this girl and can I leave the kids with you for a few weeks until I get things straightened out, I know HaLeigh had school and all, but Im just giving and example of how things could have gone
   Crystal did try to call the kids almost every day and alot of times Ronald would tell her that they couldnt come to the phone that they were playing or that they werent there or whatever he could come up with to just be mean..

   When Crystal left Ronald she took her kids with her and  Ronald came crying to her and begged her to let them go with him on his little trip to Mexico and promised her he would bring them back in a few days, only he didnt do that and he hid them from her until he filed for custody..

  Now, I would not....could not.. stand with Ronald united in a plea for HaLeigh when he would just drag Misty alone to shove in my face...no I couldnt do that, could any of you stand there beside the person that you feel is responsible for your child being gone...I couldnt ...not with out slapping the crap out of her and then going to jail myself........Crystal said she spoke with Ronald about Misty and told him she didnt want to be around Misty when she came to get Jr. or talk to him about anything to do with Haleigh, and she said Ronald said....what do you want me to do......hmmmm, well thats a big man for you.....how about leave her butt at the house.......how about make her understand that its the two of you that has a child missing and she needs to stay out of it unless she is ready to tell what happened .........

   
   

[Brandi]

guys my opinionabout the donna thing....  misty kne wwho she was... she was on her ms friends and since misty i'm sure just looks at pictures since she cannot read (LOL)... she no doubt knew exactly who donna was... as far as ron texting either to kiss up to misty like to reel her back in so he could again keep his enemy close again or to make it seem like she didn't know who she was before... which she did.. if that is the case then it lends credibility to maybe misty telling donna the "truth" since she supposedly didn't know she should lie to her ... make it seem like you trust someone and are opening up to someone for the sole purpose of disinformation....
jmo
but she definitely knew exactly who donna was and her tes connection... without a doubt

hey penny!

I remember before Donna set her page private, I did see Misty listed as a friend.

Good point.

I also believe Misty knew exactly who Donna was when they went away together.

And Misty is no street fool. I believe she also knew what and what not to tell Donna.

JMO.

[O4Bull]

Fanny,
I didn't want to comment until I got caught up, then didn't want to go back and find your post to me so I can quote it (I've been out all day, I'm so tired!).  I just wanted to say that I do respect your opinion and find we are on the same side of most arguments.  I do respect you as you have always spoke your mind, and I have to love you for that.  I'm a black and white tell it like it is and you better not lie to me kinda girl.  I've said it before, I can deal with the truth  ...but I hate a liar.  (and we have a lot of those in this case, sadly) 

I just wish we never ever got upset with each other but I know that's not gonna happen.   I just like to see adults agreeing to disagree and treating each other respectfully.  We can learn from each other and I really don't mind someone challenging my way of thinking or disagreeing with me, as long as they're polite.  A good, clean debate can sometimes even sway my opinion.   


 

[higherhopes]

I just peeked in and well, there was NO proof that Ron refused to take Jr for counseling.. I found it odd myself that on the VERY day she was to return him from his 6 week stay with her,she hauls Ron into court under new allegations. I am not wearing blinders. I just think it was another attempt at taking custody or trying to pile up allegations thinking it will help her to win but in reality, it is hurting the search for her daughter.. JMO

How about, thats what date the court had opened and scheduled that day for this hearing, I doubt Crystal could tell the courts when she wanted to make a appearance, and I dont think getting married and getting tatooes and fighting with inlaws and going mudbogging is helping find their daughter either....I believe Jr. needs counseling and if this is what it took to get it for him...then I say...more power to her....................