Natalee Case Discussion #786 12/17/08 - 12/24/08

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Quote from: Kermit on December 18, 2008, 09:01:05 PM
Quote from: wreck on December 18, 2008, 11:21:13 AM
Well, what do we do with Kermit's information? Kermit says she has given it to the FBI AND the family. I'm not sure as to what we here are supposed to do with this information. Kermit, what do you want/need US to do?? Are you confident that things are being done in the background (and I don't mean private forums!)?

Send emails to the Birmingham FBI office - attention Carmen S Adams, and copy those emails to our State Department in Washington
 
Include the pictures, and Kyle's words.
 
Plead with them to put pressure on Aruba, and more importantly on The Hague for answers.
Whatever happened to this? Kermit answered specifically to wrecks question of what we can/should do.
Magnolia followed up with contact info for Birmingham FBI...
I followed up with State Department contact info and even posted my email to the State Department below...Has anyone else submitted emails to FBI or State Department? Just wondering and wanted to ensure Kermit's suggestions didn't go by the wayside. Smile

   
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Quote from: billb on December 18, 2008, 11:42:40 PM
US State Department
OVERSEAS CITIZENS SERVICES: Call 1-888-407-4747 (from overseas: 202-501-4444) for answers related to questions concerning the:

    * Death of an American citizen abroad
    * Arrest/detention of an American citizen abroad
    * Robbery of an American citizen abroad
    * American citizens missing abroad
    * Crisis abroad involving American citizens
    * After-hours number for an emergency involving an American citizen abroad
To ask a question via email:
http://contact-us.state.gov/cgi-bin/state.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=jxOHQJlj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0xMTEsMTExJnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**

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It was easy to submit a question on the site:
My question:
Secretary Rice met with the mother (Beth Holloway Twitty) of Natalee Holloway WRT her daughter's disappearance May 30th, 2005. Secretary Rice, after hearing Beth's account of the lack of investigation by the Aruban authorities, directed that the FBI take a closer look into the events surrounding her daughter's disappearance. Can you please provide an update of the actions our State Department, Secretary Rice, and the FBI have taken to ensure there is/will be Justice for Natalee Holloway, a US citizen?
Thank you.

[Magnolia]

I sent mine, billb. 

[bleachedblack]

Sometimes even the articles written in English make me say WTH.

*******

Amigoe English
Trees as economic asses of Curacao

WILLEMSTAD — Trees as the new economic asses of Curaçao and CO2 as a blessing from heaven.  The Dutch farmer Pieter Hoff is convinced of that and he hopes and anticipates that during and especially after his lecture in the UNA, a pilot program of about 400 to 500 hectare is given flash and blood and this way can possibly start in 2009 already.

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

[bleachedblack]

Como Woman y Man of The Year 2008....Magaly Brito y Freddie Rafine a haya nan reconocimento ayeranochi


Friday, 19 December 2008 00:00 Local
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Den un celebracion chikito y cu presencia di invitadonan na residencia di Nuhad y Jossy Mansur na Eagle gerente di DIARIO tabata tin entrega oficial di e reconocimento na dos persona cu a ser nombra como Man y Woman of The Year 2008. Esaki ta un nombracion cu a bay sin unanimente na DIARIO y awe por mira cu e nombracion di DIARIO a ser acepta tambe den e comunidad. DIARIO ta e corant cu ta para cu e verdad y sin ningun clase di miedo pa cualkier intimidacion. Esaki ta e motibo tambe cu DIARIO ta e corant mas grandi na Aruba cu e respet grandi tambe den henter e pueblo.
Na momento cu ing Fredie Rafine y tambe Magaly Brito a ser yama dilanti naturalmente nan tambe a dirigi nan mes na esnan presente mustrando cu nan a para fuerte unda a base di prinicpio awe hopi biaha bo ta haya bo mes den problema cerca esnan cu no ta gusta pa e berdad bin dilanti.

Jossy Mansur como gerente di DIARIO y tambe Jenny Cratz como man drechi di DIARIO a hiba palabra unda nan a repasa y splica mas riba e motibo di e nombracion cu a ser acepta 100% den comunidad. Pabien un biaha mas na Ing Freddie Rafine y Magaly Brito cu e nombracion di man y Woman of The Year 2008

http://www.diario-aruba.com/200812195270/Local/Como-Woman-y-Man-of-The-Year-2008....Magaly-Brito-y-Freddie-Rafine-a-haya-nan-reconocimento-ayeranochi.html

[bleachedblack]

Winter recess for VvdS.

http://www.coolaruba.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=623113

......same old same old.....

http://www.coolaruba.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=622960

[Blonde]

Still to me, the single most amazing head scratcher is how a court in Aruba can make this judgement, this statement, and still call this a mystery? This decision in a legal setting that has done little in Natalee's interests, still clearly states what happened here and yet we are still being told there isn't evidence?

Premeditated Murder.

That was the charge which Karin Janssen arrested Paulus van der sloot on. The court in Aruba in one of it's last decisions, seemed to agree.

    “With attention to the lying declarations that the son of Paulus, Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot (hereafter Joran) gave about his last contact on the 30th of May 2005 with the disappeared Natalee Holloway, the suspicion is not unreasonable that he made himself guilty of a conduct that can be qualified as murder, manslaughter, or kidnapping that resulted in death.
    The possible involvement of Paulus with that could then be deducted from the file with the official reports of witnesses, amongst which two people suggested a contact existed between Paulus and Natalee Holloway the night of her disappearance, and a tapped report (that was given by the Prosecutor in her final note 1 to the Court). The tapped information and his declaration that he picked up Joran and Natalee by the McDonalds Palm Beach and brought them to the Holiday Inn, are clearly understood by the Dept. of Justice, and could in the judgement of this Superior Court, be considered as an indication of the involvement of Paulus in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.”

Thursday, August 2, 2007
PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT



The Buddy System?


A clear picture has emerged in regards to Paulus van der Sloot and his connection to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The image appears to reveal that professional and personal relationships within all levels of the Dutch/Aruban administrations, as well as the judiciary, have resulted in preferential treatment - preferential treament which implies that a friend and colleague will never be held accountable for his participation in the events that occurred on Aruban soil during the early hours of May 30, 2005.


A. CHRONOLOGY

01. DETAINED

FOX NEWS - 06-24-05
The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) — the father of 17-year-old Joran — was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.

02. RELEASED

Amigoe - 11-12-05
ARUBA – ... Paul van der Sloot was detained from June 23rd up till the 26th in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The examining-magistrate decided then that there was not sufficient evidence against Van der Sloot and released him. Translation Credit: Aruba Gretagrip

03. NO LONGER A SUSPECT

'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' - 11-14-05
COSBY: ... Late Friday, an Aruban judge said Paul Van Der Sloot is no longer a suspect in the search for the Alabama teen. In fact, Paul Van Der Sloot could even receive damages from the government of Aruba after being held for three days in an Aruban jail

04. AWARDED COMPENSATION - DETAINMENT NOT JUSTIFIED

Expatica News - 08-03-06
AMSTERDAM — Dutchman Paul van der Sloot, father of the chief suspect in the Natalee Holloway disappearance case, has been awarded financial damages. A court on the autonomous Dutch island of Aruba ruled that Paul van der Sloot was arrested and detained for four days without due cause last year as part of the investigation. He was awarded 50,000 Aruban Guilders in compensation. This is equal to EUR 21,800 or USD 27,900.

05. COMPENSATION APPEALED

FOX NEWS - 08-08-06
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Aruban prosecutors said Tuesday they will appeal an order to compensate a man detained in the disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway. A judge on the Dutch Caribbean island ruled on July 28 that the prosecutor's office should pay $30,190 to Paulus van der Sloot, a former justice official in Aruba who was detained in the case for three days, for defamation and legal fees. "The public prosecutor's office does not agree with the amount granted, since this is much higher than usual," spokeswoman Mariaine Croes said.

06. GOOD CONDUCT DOCUMENT

Bon Dia Aruba - 01-06-06
On the basis of this letter, the attorney told the judge that the prosecutor let it be known that the case against van der Sloot was over. The judge said in his decision that he is in agreement with the attorney. Given that the prosecutor herself said that Mr. van der Sloot is no longer a suspect, which according to the judge can be looked at as the prosecutor saying that the case is over, since the prosecutor will no longer pursue the case. This signifies that Paul van der Sloot will soon start working as a lawyer in Aruba and the case he brought forth against the Public Prosecutor will not go forward since he obtained his good conduct document, which is the document he was missing to be registered as a lawyer. Translation Credit: Aruba Getagrip

07. SWORN IN AS AN ATTORNEY

Aruba Today - 01-18-06
Paul Van Der Sloot, once held in connection with the disappearance of an Alabama teenager was cleared on of suspicion in the case last November and has now been installed in the capacity of a lawyer on the island. Paul van der Sloot entered the courthouse yesterday to present his application to the “raad van toezict” (Supervisory Commission) and the members of the Aruban Lawyers Association. The commission, together with the lawyers association reviewed his application and attached documents, concluding that he satisfied the qualifications to be accepted as an active lawyer working on the island of Aruba.

08. JOINS ANTONIO CARLO'S LAW FIRM

Expatica News - 02-17-06
Joran is represented by lawyer Antonio Carlo, who is also Paulus van der Sloot's boss on Aruba. Paulus van der Sloot joined Carlo's legal firm as a lawyer in January this year.

09. COMPENSATION DENIED - DETENTION JUSTIFIED

Aruba Diario - 02-14-07
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. Translation Credit: Diario Aruba


B. THE SUPERIOR COURT RULING


The implications encompassing the rulings of the Superior Court in January, 2007 are very far reaching, and many questions are left unanswered. The ruling which denied Paulus van der Sloot compensation and the ruling which deemed that his detention was justified were based on Paulus' own declaration as well as incriminating wiretaps.


1. Was the Judiciary protecting Paulus van der Sloot?

*Why was Paulus van der Sloot released after only three days of detention on suspicion of being involved in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

*Why was Paulus van der Sloot declared in a ruling by the Aruban court to no longer be a suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

*Why was Paulus van der Sloot initially awarded compensation for wrongful detention by the Aruban court?

Inquiring minds want to know if the judge/s who ruled in these three court proceedings were unaware of the wiretap and declaration which were revealed by the Superior Court in January, 2007 or - was there preferential treatment involved? Also - was the judge/s unaware of interrogator Lt. Roland Tromp's contention that Paulus van der Sloot changed his declaration regarding his knowledge/participation in the events pertaining to the morning of May 31, 2005?


2. Was Karin Janssen part of the coverup?

Karin Janssen's professional capacity dictated that she was in a position of knowledge when she wrote the letter of recommendation on Paulus van der Sloot's behalf - the letter of recommendation which was required if Paulus was to receive his accredidation as a qualified attorney. As the prosecutor for the Natalee Holloway investigation - Janssen had to have been aware of the evidence revealed by the Superior Court in January, 2007 which denied Paulus compensation for wrongful detention and also deemed his detention as justified.

Also - when the letter of recommendation was submitted - the prosecutor of the investigation had to have been aware of interrogator Lt. Roland Tromp's contention regarding Paulus' changing declarations concerning the morning of May 31, 2005.

Inquiring minds want to know why Karin Janssen bowed to the threat of a lawsuit for non-compliance and thereby composed the letter of recommendation.


3. Why does Paulus van der Sloots' non-suspect status as well as his attorney status remain unchanged?

When the January, 2007 ruling of the Superior Court is considered - the rulings which deemed that Paulus' detention was justified based on his own declaration as well as incriminating wiretaps - inquiring minds want to know why the earlier court decision that ruled Paulus was no longer a suspect has not been reversed and ... why does this man continue to legally hold a position as a practicing attorney on the Island of Aruba?

Jossy Mansur - Aruban Editor -
NANCY GRACE - 10-04-05 GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work

Lt. Roland Tromp - Interrogator - CBS NEWS - 08-05-05
Tromp, who declined to provide details about exactly what investigators believe happened to Holloway, said that Paul van der Sloot has also changed his account the night Holloway vanished. "Why should you do that if you are telling the truth?" he said

http://64.233.169.132/search?q=cache:nlEfzdC_PWAJ:nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/2007/08/paulus-van-der-sloot.html+Paulus+was+denied+compensation&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!
Natalee’s Freebirds
Posted by Natalee's Freebirds at 5:49 AM

[bleachedblack]

>>>>SNIP

Aruba Diario - 02-14-07
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. Translation Credit: Diario Aruba

++++++++

Once again we are reminded of phone taps. Are these the same phone taps referred to by Senator Bacchus when he was speaking with Greta after having first met with the "delegation" sent to Washington? Likely so......Was Jan van der Straaten encouraging Joran to plead guilty to the entire crime-be the scapegoat for Paulus- and spend sometime in a psych ward for the crime? Hmmmmm Yep the judge (would be judge) orchestrated the
disposal or removal- and that was how he knew there would be "no body". I guess it isn't likely that someone would place the body in a trap in 90 ft water after all-sorta easy to find? Probably was a skeleton in the trap/cage but it was likely someone else-that was why Aruba was left to take it- and deal with it. Now where is Natalee? Where did they take her?

[bleachedblack]

This is an unofficial transcript from Greta's interview with Bacchus, taken from a previous post of mine on another site. The question has been asked before, but were wire taps in place on the Sloots(DEA?) that allowed the last conversation regarding what happened to Natalee to be heard? Did the FBI know from the start that this was more than just a missing teen and therefore the large number of FBI sent to Aruba?
++++++

Greta Dec 16th (2005)partial still working on the rest

Bachus:
The FBI asked me not to say some things.

Greta:
About them or the meeting?

Bachus:
Both

Greta:
They weren’t at the meeting?

Bachus:
They asked me not to discuss it.
The FBI does not meet.
They told me they were going to meet with us.
Then their policy later was they actually recommended a meeting between them and the group.

Greta:
Your gut reaction from the meeting?
Do you feel confident this is the right team to be leading the investigation or would you like to see some changes?

Bachus:
It’s a small island and they are handicapped by their experience.
But I was impressed with what they had done…at least the work product.
I have seen cases…I’ve been to hired to prosecute murder cases where there is almost no file.
I will say that the resources that have been devoted to this case are really probably more substantial than most murder cases here in the United States.

Greta:
Have there been any leaks that have possibly jeopardized the investigation?
You don’t have to go into any details of the actual leaks but did they tell you…are you convinced that anything said so far hurt the investigation?

Bachus:
It is my understanding they were running wiretaps and it was disclosed…

Greta:
Would that be the initial first week before the initial arrest?

Bachus:
This was in the first weeks, that is what they’re telling me.

Greta:
Since that time there have been no other leaks they told you about that hurt the investigation?

Bachus:
I think if anything it is the news media.
Your show and others that probably do result in more…inaudible

Greta:
Okay, thank you sir.

Bachus:
I don’t have any criticism of them...inaudible

[bleachedblack]

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: Do not confuse...
The Simian called out names like bifrons. Nobody else.

Listen closely today. The Babylonians are grinning after a long while.

The phones have been hacked. Dots on dish. The rotten package from The Hague.

Choose sides now to avoid embarrassment. The checkmate is set again.

[wreck]

I wanted to bring this forward:

Kermit posted:

It is Dolf Richarson who is in charge of the investigation.
I know that he waited some time before he even sent what was called the material.
So could he have switched it? I don't know.

But look at Dolph Richardson and Hans Mos.
AND the Aruban divers that were on board.
BUT and I am going to say this ONLY ONCE.
The Aruban divers, nor Hans Mos, nor Richardson were aware of what I may reveal to you.
THEY have no idea.

That is important because it reveals the cover-up.

^^^BUMP^^^^
I missed this!!!  hmmmmm 

[Buckeye]

I wanted to bring this forward:

Kermit posted:

It is Dolf Richarson who is in charge of the investigation.
I know that he waited some time before he even sent what was called the material.
So could he have switched it? I don't know.

But look at Dolph Richardson and Hans Mos.
AND the Aruban divers that were on board.
BUT and I am going to say this ONLY ONCE.
The Aruban divers, nor Hans Mos, nor Richardson were aware of what I may reveal to you.
THEY have no idea.

That is important because it reveals the cover-up.

^^^BUMP^^^^
I missed this!!!  hmmmmm 

I took this to  mean that the Aruban's were unaware of the pics of the zip lock bags.

[Buckeye]

This is an unofficial transcript from Greta's interview with Bacchus, taken from a previous post of mine on another site. The question has been asked before, but were wire taps in place on the Sloots(DEA?) that allowed the last conversation regarding what happened to Natalee to be heard? Did the FBI know from the start that this was more than just a missing teen and therefore the large number of FBI sent to Aruba?
++++++

Greta Dec 16th (2005)partial still working on the rest

Bachus:
The FBI asked me not to say some things.

Greta:
About them or the meeting?

Bachus:
Both

Greta:
They weren’t at the meeting?

Bachus:
They asked me not to discuss it.
The FBI does not meet.
They told me they were going to meet with us.
Then their policy later was they actually recommended a meeting between them and the group.

Greta:
Your gut reaction from the meeting?
Do you feel confident this is the right team to be leading the investigation or would you like to see some changes?

Bachus:
It’s a small island and they are handicapped by their experience.
But I was impressed with what they had done…at least the work product.
I have seen cases…I’ve been to hired to prosecute murder cases where there is almost no file.
I will say that the resources that have been devoted to this case are really probably more substantial than most murder cases here in the United States.

Greta:
Have there been any leaks that have possibly jeopardized the investigation?
You don’t have to go into any details of the actual leaks but did they tell you…are you convinced that anything said so far hurt the investigation?

Bachus:
It is my understanding they were running wiretaps and it was disclosed…

Greta:
Would that be the initial first week before the initial arrest?

Bachus:
This was in the first weeks, that is what they’re telling me.

Greta:
Since that time there have been no other leaks they told you about that hurt the investigation?

Bachus:
I think if anything it is the news media.
Your show and others that probably do result in more…inaudible

Greta:
Okay, thank you sir.

Bachus:
I don’t have any criticism of them...inaudible

I think this is the Aruban's trying to blame the US for the boys not being honest in their taps.  Of course Deepak tells them that they were in "cover mode" from the get go, but my guess is that they didn't tell Bacchus.

or

The FBI had some taps going, after the fact...and did not mention it to ALE.... but someone did.

[wreck]

I wanted to bring this forward:

Kermit posted:

It is Dolf Richarson who is in charge of the investigation.
I know that he waited some time before he even sent what was called the material.
So could he have switched it? I don't know.

But look at Dolph Richardson and Hans Mos.
AND the Aruban divers that were on board.
BUT and I am going to say this ONLY ONCE.
The Aruban divers, nor Hans Mos, nor Richardson were aware of what I may reveal to you.
THEY have no idea.

That is important because it reveals the cover-up.

^^^BUMP^^^^
I missed this!!!  hmmmmm 

I took this to  mean that the Aruban's were unaware of the pics of the zip lock bags.

In other words, they DID cover-up the evidence from the trap, but were unaware that the ROV had pics of the baggies. Got it!

[texasmom]

[iris44]

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: Do not confuse...
The Simian called out names like bifrons. Nobody else.

Listen closely today. The Babylonians are grinning after a long while.

The phones have been hacked. Dots on dish. The rotten package from The Hague.

Choose sides now to avoid embarrassment. The checkmate is set again.

The above seems very similar to how CAPS writes, except better English.

[klaasend]

Merian Ernest Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: Do not confuse...
The Simian called out names like bifrons. Nobody else.

Listen closely today. The Babylonians are grinning after a long while.

The phones have been hacked. Dots on dish. The rotten package from The Hague.

Choose sides now to avoid embarrassment. The checkmate is set again.

The above seems very similar to how CAPS writes, except better English.

Merian Ernest was Simian. Merian/Simian was Aruban.  Caps is an Aruban so you can't really deduct anything from that IMO. 

[iris44]

Off topic, but are jumbo breast enhancements required for all women living in Aruba?

[truthseeker2]

Aruba Diario - 02-14-07
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. Translation Credit: Diario Aruba

This is the most interesting part of this declaration regarding the 'case against Paulus'.  This says TWO OCCASIONS where he had personal contact with Natalee ONE THE NIGHT SHE DISAPPEARED.  Two, yet this only reveals ONE.

So, to think about the information from the phone tap...when did he state he picked them both up and took Natalee to the HI?  5/30, 5/31, 6/1...a few days after that?  We KNOW that the Holiday Inn drop off story was told in the early morning hours of 5/31 to Natalee's family and friends, but Paulus was not included in that story.  Before that moment when Deepak and Joran told that story, if the Van Der Sloot home phone was already tapped and Paulus is heard saying to someone, "I picked Joran and a girl up at McDonald's and he and I took her to the HI"...BAM.  Paulus just gave himself away big as day. 

If Paulus made that statement over the phone after the early morning hours of 5/31, who in the hell was he saying that to?  He had to know that the HI story told by Deepak and Joran did not include him, so why compound a lie to include yourself?  Including yourself in what is already a lie does not protect your son since the polis already have their statements saying Deepak and Joran and Satish dropped her at the HI.  So who would Paulus say such a thing to?  Had they already had their meeting around the pool?  If so, Paulus is one dumb SOB.  If not, Paulus is still one dumb SOB! 

The second interesting thing about this snip from the article is that it stated that it has been indicated that Paulus had two occasions of contact with Natalee that night.  So did they clearly identify Paulus as the man sitting at the black jack table from the casino security footage?  If not, then where and when was the other occasion?  If so, why isn't he still a suspect?

Better yet, WHY AREN'T ALL OF THIS AZZHOLES STILL IN JAIL!!!

[Poochy]

Aruba Diario - 02-14-07
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. Translation Credit: Diario Aruba

This is the most interesting part of this declaration regarding the 'case against Paulus'.  This says TWO OCCASIONS where he had personal contact with Natalee ONE THE NIGHT SHE DISAPPEARED.  Two, yet this only reveals ONE.

So, to think about the information from the phone tap...when did he state he picked them both up and took Natalee to the HI?  5/30, 5/31, 6/1...a few days after that?  We KNOW that the Holiday Inn drop off story was told in the early morning hours of 5/31 to Natalee's family and friends, but Paulus was not included in that story.  Before that moment when Deepak and Joran told that story, if the Van Der Sloot home phone was already tapped and Paulus is heard saying to someone, "I picked Joran and a girl up at McDonald's and he and I took her to the HI"...BAM.  Paulus just gave himself away big as day. 

If Paulus made that statement over the phone after the early morning hours of 5/31, who in the hell was he saying that to?  He had to know that the HI story told by Deepak and Joran did not include him, so why compound a lie to include yourself?  Including yourself in what is already a lie does not protect your son since the polis already have their statements saying Deepak and Joran and Satish dropped her at the HI.  So who would Paulus say such a thing to?  Had they already had their meeting around the pool?  If so, Paulus is one dumb SOB.  If not, Paulus is still one dumb SOB! 

The second interesting thing about this snip from the article is that it stated that it has been indicated that Paulus had two occasions of contact with Natalee that night.  So did they clearly identify Paulus as the man sitting at the black jack table from the casino security footage?  If not, then where and when was the other occasion?  If so, why isn't he still a suspect?

Better yet, WHY AREN'T ALL OF THIS AZZHOLES STILL IN JAIL!!!

When I read this I thought the first contact was talking with her at the black jack table.
The second contact was when he said himself he picked her up w/Joran. I can't find that PV now. (Didn't some of Paulus' PVs have missing pages in them?)

Then there was the 2am and 4am phone calls.

Who had the authority to give Paulus the 'get out of jail' card?