Natalee Case Discussion #840 6/17/10 - 6/22/10

[Tamikosmom]

Got it. Beth on Greta, November 19, 2008:

HOLLOWAY: Yes. And Greta, I was just wanting to say that, you know, like I said, it's been a long time, but it's never too late for justice. And I'd be good with a "Midnight Express" prison anywhere for Joran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454527,00.html

[no rose colored glasses]

NRCG - that article was a spoof.

OMG, I apologize, will blame it on not enough coffee, or I'm just stupid  LOL

[Magnolia]

Has anyone, other than Joran, confirmed that Elton Garcia was an FBI agent?

[Tamikosmom]

Yes-that is a good post, Klaas.  It only makes sense that if the FBI had lured Joran to Peru they would have wasted no time in arresting him once he got there, imo.

I think the Sloots have the FBI on the brain--remember the night Beth & Jug and their friends arrived at the Sloot's compound, didn't the Sloots jump to the conclusion that Jug's friends were the FBI? lol...

what about the monster's lawyer adviced him to kill somebody in sout america to avoid extradition to usa, a crime bigger than extortion so the monster will not come to america.

Somehow I believe that detention in the United States on an extortion charge would be preferential over detention in South America on a murder charge.  Something akin to comparing Heaven and H---.  IMO

Janet

[Northern Rose]

Jinkasauraus just said on In Seeion that Joran had a visitor over the weekend, a friend from the Netherlands flew in to visit him.

[littletxlady]

forgot to add...

He had currency from all those places. This could mean premeditation. He knows he's going to kill (and on the anniversary of Natalee's death), and he has money from many countries so he has choices on where to run. Just a thought, although we don't know how much currency.

He was broke, even had to borrow $ from Stephany. He had to have stopped somewhere and have some of the $ from Stephany exchanged. If he had it with him in Lima before he killed her he could have exchanged it in Lima maybe even in the casino. Don't forget the taxi drivers were helping him. Did anyone hear how much currency he had? JMO

[Jo-An]

Has anyone, other than Joran, confirmed that Elton Garcia was an FBI agent?

It was only suggested by the Telegraaf reporters, because certain things pointed in that direction.

[Northern Rose]

Van Der Sloot Refuses to Talk to Peru Judge  Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haiSJ7RE3fA

[Jo-An]

Jinkasauraus just said on In Seeion that Joran had a visitor over the weekend, a friend from the Netherlands flew in to visit him.

Was he there on Sunday? Was he bald and tall?
If so, then it was John vd Heuvel.

[littletxlady]

Joran Goes For Coffee (Missing Picture Added)

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7670377/20392020

[Northern Rose]

Jinkasauraus just said on In Seeion that Joran had a visitor over the weekend, a friend from the Netherlands flew in to visit him.

Was he there on Sunday? Was he bald and tall?
If so, then it was John vd Heuvel.

That is all she said.  Maybe she will say more on JVM or NG later today. 

She was also talking about the luminol testing in the hotel room.  There was blood in the bathroom, hallway, bedroom and bed, basically the entire room had blood in it.

[Northern Rose]

Van Der Sloot Says He Was Framed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ia1tG9e0wg

[Tamikosmom]

I have translated the interview a reporter had with Joran, as printed in today's De Telegraaf.

"IF ONLY I HAD LISTENED TO MY MOTHER"

by our special reporters John van den Heuvel and Bert Huisjes

LIMA (Peru), Tuesday

<snipped>

Regret

... However, looking back now he has "great regret" that he went to Peru from Aruba. In the police file it seems that one of his fellow poker players, Elton Garcia, has all the papers of an American federal agent with him. On one of the casino images he can be seen as a handsome man with dark sunglasses. Garcia was the one who on Tuesday night caused the body of Stephany (21) to be found. Van der Sloot was already on the run. He had the manager of the Atlantic City casino call the hotel to ask if Van der Sloot was in his room.
 
<snipped>

Did journalist John van den Heuvel and Bert Huisjes have access to police files ... police files that indicate that Garcia was an FBI agent?

Janet
 

[blah]

Maybe all the i's had not been dotted and all the t's had been crossed and that is the reason the FBI did not began the extradiction process immediately upon Joran's arrival in Peru.  Considering an agent was following Joran ... assuring the extortion case was solid was the priority.

The criminal complaint against Joran was filed by the FBI on June 3, 2010.

Janet

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Department of Justice Press Release
 
For Immediate Release
June 3, 2010 United States Attorney's Office
Northern District of Alabama
Contact: (205) 244-2001
 
Joran van der Sloot Charged with Fraud and Extortion in Birmingham

BIRMINGHAM—Federal prosecutors in Birmingham have filed a criminal complaint against JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, a citizen of the Netherlands, on wire fraud and extortion charges in connection with his soliciting money in May on promises he would reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains in Aruba and circumstances of her death, U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance and FBI Special Agent in Charge Patrick Maley announced today.

“We are committed to protecting citizens from unscrupulous individuals who attempt to financially exploit a person’s deepest fears and greatest loss,” Vance said.

The wire fraud and extortion charges are unrelated to the ongoing murder investigation in Peru, in which van der Sloot is an alleged person of interest.

Vance said her office filed the two-count criminal complaint today in U.S. District Court in Birmingham.

The complaint charges that van der Sloot, on May 10, extorted $15,000 from an individual as partial payment toward his promise to reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains for $250,000. The maximum sentence on the extortion count is 20 years in prison.

The complaint also charges van der Sloot with wire fraud for causing the $15,000 to be transferred by wire from a Birmingham bank to a bank in the Netherlands in furtherance of his scheme to defraud. The maximum sentence for the wire fraud count is 30 years.

Vance thanked Aruban authorities for the assistance they provided in this investigation.
 
Members of the public are reminded that the criminal complaint contains only charges. A defendant is presumed not guilty.

Press Releases | Birmingham Home

http://birmingham.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/bh_060310.htm

All this BS about FBI set-ups is just a bunch of crap they are spewing in an attempt to keep Joran from ever getting extradited to the US.  Look - they are setting me up! You cant send me there!


What a load.

[Tamikosmom]

Joran Goes For Coffee (Missing Picture Added)

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7670377/20392020

Thank you littletxlady.

Barring any backroom deals with Aruba ... Joran is going down!

Janet

[littletxlady]

Joran Goes For Coffee (Missing Picture Added)

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7670377/20392020

Thank you littletxlady.

Barring any backroom deals with Aruba ... Joran is going down!

Janet

YW
I was just looking at the CrimeSider pics again and I realized JVS actually dressed Stephany in his shirt that he held over her face!!

[Northern Rose]

van der Sloot Recants Confession

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjwnSDgMQvE

[Jo-An]

I have translated the interview a reporter had with Joran, as printed in today's De Telegraaf.

"IF ONLY I HAD LISTENED TO MY MOTHER"

by our special reporters John van den Heuvel and Bert Huisjes

LIMA (Peru), Tuesday

<snipped>

Regret

... However, looking back now he has "great regret" that he went to Peru from Aruba. In the police file it seems that one of his fellow poker players, Elton Garcia, has all the papers of an American federal agent with him. On one of the casino images he can be seen as a handsome man with dark sunglasses. Garcia was the one who on Tuesday night caused the body of Stephany (21) to be found. Van der Sloot was already on the run. He had the manager of the Atlantic City casino call the hotel to ask if Van der Sloot was in his room.
 
<snipped>

Did journalist John van den Heuvel and Bert Huisjes have access to police files ... police files that indicate that Garcia was an FBI agent?

Janet
 

I have no idea.
But John vd Heuvel was on tv last night saying they did investigate the extortion case, so maybe he got access to some of the police files somehow.
There have been a lot of leaks to the press over the past couple of weeks but no one was really interested in this Elton Garcia so maybe that's why we haven't heard anything about that til now.

[Tamikosmom]

I don't really care if the director of the FBI bought Joran a plane ticket to Peru and personally delivered it to his house.  Joran killed Stephany in cold blood and no one is responsible for that except him.  No one held a gun to his head, told him to do it or helped him.  And again, if the director of the FBI personally erected the cameras that caught him red-handed the GOOD ON HIM. 

BOTTOM LINE!!

[Edward]

A bowl of water big enough to put Joran's big deformed head into would be more like a vat!

Who is he kidding with this?

SNIP
The maximum sentence for murder in Peru is a mere 35 years. If convicted, here's betting he'll never serve nearly that much time.
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Life is just a big poker game to Joran.
He knows people.
He has the game in play.
He has some power IF Peru has no backbone and caves into the onslught of people moving to free him.
jmho