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Rest in Peace Sweet Caylee, Your Safe Now.
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hi

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::  I did it again!

 ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyDance::   ::MonkeyDance::

Sassy,I didn't think we'd ever get in to a new cage.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Woo hoo!!

Dolce,Can we have Oreos now?

 I'm hungry and need beer

Beer and M&Ms........oh yeah.

Nancy Grace will be crazy tonight.  ::MonkeyCool::

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I know Trimm.   I'm still behind, though.   I went out for a couple of hours today.   Is it true that KC beheaded Caylee?   Is it true that Conway said that George needs to fear Cindy?

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oof.

Whew!!  ::MonkeyCool::

Emailing pizza man tonight!

::MonkeyLaugh::

I'm going home, see you monkeys in a little bit.  ::cartwheel::

Cindy's incident report - bringing it over from the last thread.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/MP%20Report%20G%20Anthony...09-07780.pdf

Darn that Sassy!  and trimm and pegster and SS and .....

Thanks for the heads up though JSM ... I was off to the fridge.

Have I mentioned ... making a late entrance is very fashionable?!

i missed that part too. he should tho, shes some serious kind of crazy.

UPDATED: Sources: George Anthony Took Sleeping Pills; Suicide Note Found In Car
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed In Daughter's Death
POSTED: Thursday, January 22, 2009
UPDATED: 4:18 pm EST January 23, 2009

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ORLANDO, Fla. -- The father of Casey Anthony, who is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, had alcohol in his motel room and took several sleeping pills prior to being found by authorities after he sent suicidal text messages to family members who reported him missing, sources told Local 6 News.

Meanwhile, Local 6 News learned Thursday that a gas can with apparent duct tape on it that was seized from the home of George and Cindy Anthony, where Casey Anthony and Caylee lived, is being compared to duct tape found over Caylee's mouth because the tape appears to be identical.

The gas can was seized by investigators Aug. 1 from the Anthony home. Local 6 News showed video of the metal gas can, which appeared to have silver duct tape on it.

George Anthony Found Safe After Threatening Suicide: VIDEO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18549851/index.html

Jose Baez: Casey Anthony 'Holding Up' After Father's Suicide Threats: VIDEO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18549643/index.html

911 Call Released Of George Anthony Reported Missing
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18549911/index.html

Local 6: George Anthony Found Safe; Suicide Note Located: VIDEO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18547175/index.html

PHOTOS: Suicide Threat
http://www.clickorlando.com/slidesho...ews&dm=ss&tn=b

Article:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18543583/detail.html
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That's beautiful.    Thanks.

Nancy has always shown sympathy for the Anthonys, very seldom questioning their motives the way many of us have.

BTW, I think Cindy reads the internet just like she always did.  She may even read here, but she surely reads at the most visible sources of news and opinion about the case.

What's the deal with their new lawyer?  He is in a wheelchair and I think he often seems in poor health, as with all the coughing today.

::MonkeyTongue::

I'll bring this over from the other post.  All monkeys please keep eyes open  ::MonkeyEek::

From Orange County
1/15/2009     A     NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
1/20/2009    A    MOTION TO INSPECT CRIME SCENE
1/20/2009    A    NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
1/22/2009    A    AMENDED APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM
1/22/2009    A    NOTICE OF HEARING FILED <01/30/2009> 08:30 A.M.
1/22/2009    A    NOTICE OF PROVISION OF DOCUMENTS UNDER SEAL FOR IN CAMERA INSPECTION PURSUANT TO THIS COURT'S ORDER OF JANUARY 8, 2009 RE: DEFENDANT'S EX PARTE MOTION TO APPOINT SPECIAL MASTER.
1/23/2009    A    AMENDED DEFENSE WITNESS LIST

Anyone find the new list?  TY!

Bringing the image as well:

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 ::MonkeyLaugh::  Funny!      I got lucky, again.

Oh that is so beautiful... I am crying now...

I think a guy on tv made a dismembered remark...went from there.
And yes Cindy is to be feared.  ::MonkeyCool::

i think she does as well. i also suspect she trolls these sites. dunno whats wrong with conway, ive only seen him a few times.

The separation of the skull from the skeletal remains does NOT mean that a beheading took place.  One would have to have marks on the spinal column where the beheading took place, if in fact there was a beheading. 

Thanks again, Brandi ---   I'm not smart enough to know how to get the image!   ::MonkeyWink::

Time for dark chocolate with almonds.....

beautiful

Why in the world would Conway say George should be afraid of Cindy, besides the obvious reasons, that was a strange statement.

I haven't - but I'm just sure the prosecution motion being heard on the 30th has something to do with the defense witness list ... maybe related to this amendment?  ... Hmm

Great choice for a new thread picture of Caylee.....one of my favorites! ::MonkeyWink::

Oh. OK.   So, the guy on TV  is just guessing?     It hasn't been said as a "fact" yet.       
Thanks for answering!      ::MonkeyCool::

IIRC .. Conway was injured in high school and has been in a wheelchair ever since.

As for coughing .. probably just like most monkeys here. LOL I keep reading about sick monkeys on this forum. Must be that time of year.

 ::MonkeyCool::

I guess the talking head was just speculating, then.   thanks for answering.

This is beautiful.

Mine too!  I told my 21-year-old the other day ... who could murder a child especially at that age ... they are so wonderful and beautiful ... learning and mimicking everything ... no backtalk, smart mouthing ...
He then asked if that's why I keep pics from him at that age posted on the refrigerator ...  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Just bringing this from the last cage cause I don't think anyone saw it over there, being it was the end of cage & lots of monkeys, including me, were kicked out of the back of the cage!!. Anyway, I'll repost for those reasons!


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This whole case is one big monkey roller coaster! Today was no exception, and I'm sure there will be many more like it, unfortunately! I just wish for once someone involved in this case would do the right thing for Caylee, not for themselves! It seems that's all it is about saving themselves and blaming the media for all their problems. It's just not right, and I'm so tired of all of it. This case is not really about Caylee it seems, but about everyone else involved! Caylee was murdered and left in a garbage bag in the woods and all the evidence points to only one person. She won't admit to it, but she WILL get her day in court. So, yes, until then she's "presumed" innocent! BUT-the evidence is still the evidence and all we know it only points to KC. I am sure that there is ALOT more evidence we haven't seen yet, and as far as we know, no one else has been arrested for Caylees murder.
All the lawyers can say all they want, and blame the media all they want, but it doesn't change any of the facts of this case-it just detracts from it a little!
But KC's day in court will come, and she & her lawyers can "tell their story" then, or so they claim!  

Well, it is a new drama every day in this case.  I must say I was surprised that Cindy has stayed as quiet as she has since the body was found.  I really thought she would not be able to keep that mouth closed or stay out of the limelight.  I can only imagine the reason why she has been so out of camera-range or microphone-range lately.

  1.  She is embarrassed about claiming for so long that Caylee was alive and had been sighted in several states.

  2.  The LE put the fear of God in her about misleading the public and the press and obstructing the case.

  3.  She fears facing questions from the press about the latest developments and having to defend Casey.

  4.  Baez told her to shut up because she was hurting his case.

  5.  She is grieving and knows that Casey probably killed Caylee and is having trouble dealing with that.

  6.  Conway convinced her that the things she said might come back to haunt her.

  7.  She and Casey are estranged now and she is lukewarm about defending or helping Casey.

 ::MonkeyWink::

Hey Brandi.  ::MonkeyDance::

Great post QuietMonkey!  Caylee is going to get justice, I know she will.

Love the monkey roller coaster  ::MonkeyWink::

I didn't hear Conway mention a beheading or a fear of Cindy.  In what context were those things said?

I just wanted to put my two cents in about George. I feel really bad about what he is going through. I said a prayer for him. I feel especially bad because I have judged him and been suspicious of him, but the bottom line is, he lost his beautiful grandchild and his own daughter is the reason for that! Nobody is perfect, and no matter what, he must be in a lot of emotional pain, and it is all Casey's fault.

Personally, I think the ONLY reason Cindy has been quiet of late is Self Preservation. She has been told that if she continued on talking, she would probably be held accountable legally. That is my firm opinion. I think that is the only thing that would keep her quiet. Saving her a$$.

I'm sure the jewelry story was a lie, but maybe Cindy was asking George to go pick out jewelry for her to wear at Caylee's funeral.

some talking head said 'dismemberment'. i dont know where. i missed the part about fearing cindy, the video disconnected a couple of times for me.

Well, I'm sure when it's located, it'll be posted.  Just very curious about this because past behavior of the Anthony's is when there is drama at one place, they are usually deflecting attention away for a reason.

Awesome, yet heartbreaking..  ::MonkeyWaa:: 

Thank you cecilita! 

if i emailed the pizza place, i'd mess it up!!!! having a glass of wine & getting ready to go to dinner. have no dental floss, (packed!wth) lucky to have toothebrush & toothepaste!

wendi

Yes, I wondered about that, too.  Does any monkey know why Conway is in a wheel chair?

ita. she has ruined so many lives. all her friends and family, how will they find jobs after this?  and you just know she doesnt give a damn about any of it cause shes the 'victim'.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I don't like the fact that Conway put some of the blame on the media.  The media reports what it hears and sees, and if they get it wrong, he and the Anthonys and their publicists are free to issue immediate denials and explanations.  It has taken them this long to say that they are not profiting from the death of Caylee and they have never denied other rumors and allegations. 

If someone says something untrue, it is up to the person to step up and say:  NOT TRUE.  If they do not, people assume the story is correct. 

This makes me think that something big might be up.  For him to say ANYTHING that pits one of his clients against the other is not a good sign (for them)  You know, " a house divided" and all......

I think this is a very good sign for those of us who want justice for Caylee, though.   

Good one!! I had a thought too on why GA might have wanted to take his own life. He had a job interview that morning and for a no working fool like he is the very thought of having to go to work would be depressing.

The talking head was on HLN.   I guess he was just speculating.

Flossy
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #96
« Reply #1948 on: Today at 07:45:01 PM »

... I think George needs to get the hell away from Cindy no matter what is going with their daughter.  The woman is completely toxic

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4438.1940


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George is not the good guy in that dysfunctional household.  When I consider both George and Casey actions that imply neither could not be trusted ... if I was Cindy ... I would have packed my bags ... taken Caylee Marie and ... taken off.  Staying would have implied I would have turned into a controlling shrew.

History reveals what road Cindy chose to take.

Janet
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A Tough Thanksgiving For Anthony Family
Thursday, November 27, 2008 – updated: 12:02 pm EST November 27, 2008

FAMILY TENSION

The released documents show Grund also told investigators Cindy wanted Caylee to call her "Mommy" in front of Casey.

Casey's parents' financial problems almost shattered their marriage but ended up saving it because Cindy couldn't afford divorce. The investigation showed Cindy supported George for years. He lost thousands of dollars in a U.K. lottery scam.

The documents also show the following:

Cindy told her mother that Caylee was her life and her mother says if not for Caylee, Cindy might have harmed herself.

Just before Caylee disappeared, Cindy was about to throw Casey out of the house and try to get custody of Caylee. She caught Casey lying. At one point, Cindy talked about choking Casey, presumably out of frustration.

Friends said Casey was "annoyingly giddy" two weeks after investigators believe Casey murdered Caylee because her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro was returning to Orlando after a trip home to New York for the Fourth of July weekend. Lazzaro told investigators that Caylee was “great” but he did remember telling Casey that he wanted to have sons, because his little sisters taught him how tough it is to raise girls.

Investigators also found Casey's doodlings, writing her name as Lazzaro's wife, with hearts in the script.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html

That's what I'm thinking about this stunt.  Baez' little presser yesterday didn't do crap to take the attention away from the doc dump ... maybe this was a second try from the Anthony camp?  I can count on ten fingers the people I believe in this mess ... and they are all from LE or prosecution, and Tim Miller.

Wow, when everyone was talking about jewelry for Caylee, I didn't realize they meant "new" jewelry. I could understand burying her with something that was her favorite jewelry, but to buy something new seems odd to me. I mean, it's not like she can wear it when they bury her. That would make more sense to me, but I don't understand buying new jewelry to bury with her? I dunno, I don't mean to be judgemental of what they would bury her with, it just seems odd to buy something new. Why not bury her with something she used to love to wear all the time????
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I dnt know QM but when my boyfriend died, i went out and bought him his favorite brand of jeans, a new polo tee and he wore the sunglasses he loved so much *we had mathing dior sunglasses*. So i can understand buying new stuff so they could be buried with our loved ones, but with all due respect, Caylee is skeletonized, she has no wrists or neck...Maybe it was a crucafix.. I know this is what threw George over the edge, because the day i went to buy Reeses' clothes I can hardly remember because all i wanted to do was die, and be with reese...just as george stated.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  

I wonder if he meant fear Cindy in the legal sense or fear her wrath.  It must be a living Hell in that house.  They both need to go to work if possible and make some money and try to regain some normalcy.  I know they plan to be at the trial, since most family members do go to trials, but the trial may be months and months away.  How can they just hole up at home and expect to do anything but get more and more depressed?  Or is Cindy penning her memoirs already?

that would be a great read with her her vocabulary.

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

I'm the one that started  all of this.  Sorry!  I heard on HLN a defense attorney say that GA is dealing with the possiblity that his daughter murdered his granddaughter and then mentioned that the fact that his granddaughter was dismembered.  I thought it was odd of him saying this as I have no idea why he would say such a thing.  Someone suggested that when they found her body that her skull was not attatched when found (not to mention that someone did something to this poor baby cause this though) probably just the elements. 

I agree, Hudsunn. I don't think the Ant house would be a tolerable place to be, right now or any other time!

You cannot put jewelry or clothes on a skeleton.  If they wanted to put something precious to her in the casket with her, I could understand, but something new that she had never seen makes little sense now.  It seems a favorite doll or toy would be more appropriate, unless there is a cremation.  In that case, perhaps a toy to sit near the urn or something.  But not jewelry that is just purchased. 

i think diving/swimming accident-when he was a teenager or pretty young, i think.

wendi

several sleeping pills? Maybe he was just trying to get some sleep.

They may be able to watch it on TV but if they are on the witness list they will not be allowed to sit in the courtroom!

hi cbb. i just wanted to thank you for last night. i left you a post last night before ileft but you were already gone. so thank you again. :smt056

  WHY IS CINDY THINKING ABOUT JEWELRY IN THE FIRST PLACE.  CAYLEE IS NOTHING BUT BONES SHE DOES NOT KEED JEWELRY SHE.     NEEDS JUSTICE AND TO BE PUT TO REST  i THINK KC IS WHAT SHE IS BECUSE OF CINDY.  TO ASK GEORGE TO PICK OUT JEWELRY SHOWS SHE IS AS CRAZY AS HER DAUGHTER   ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyNoNo::

Two in a row!! 

I suck.

mixed with booze. that would be a looong sleep.

Thanks for telling us  "the rest of the story".     ::MonkeyHaHa::       

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And LA is there now.  That's a pretty small house for three people who are all ____________ - (ya'll can fill in the blank with your own choice of words!)

I think the only reason she has shut up is her fear of being charged!! Plain and Simple! 

The incident report says that Cindy asked George to go "pick out jewelry for CAYLEE for the funeral ....
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I dnt know QM but when my boyfriend died, i went out and bought him his favorite brand of jeans, a new polo tee and he wore the sunglasses he loved so much *we had mathing dior sunglasses*. So i can understand buying new stuff so they could be buried with our loved ones, but with all due respect, Caylee is skeletonized, she has no wrists or neck...Maybe it was a crucafix.. I know this is what threw George over the edge, because the day i went to buy Reeses' clothes I can hardly remember because all i wanted to do was die, and be with reese...just as george stated.    ::MonkeyNoNo::  
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Right and wrong are very elusive concerning to what is appropriate and what is not in regards to funerals.

When my mother passed on ... my father wanted Mom cremated with both her engagement ring and wedding band.  Thankfully ... my brother's wife had already read her list of wishes that she penned prior to entering hospital for the final time.  Mom had stated that she wished for engagement ring to be passed on to her only granddaughter.  Those stone make up part of my daughter's engagement ring.

When my mother-in-law passed away ... one of my sister-in-laws bought a very expensive outfit ... jewelry and all.  The reasoning ... Mom was about to take a very special journey and ... she must be dressed accordingly.

Janet

If this crazy story is true - what I don't understand is WHY wouldn't Cindy go with George to get it?   Why only send him?   I still say it was an excuse to get him out of the house.   jmo.

Crass, my word for them is Crass!!!!

So, it's George who first introduced the "dismemberment" angle? And he knew this....how?

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Oh, Always1 .. I have told you so many times, you are just too sweet!  LOL

 ::MonkeyCool::

ON Greta...................

Even when he was allegedly going to kill himself he STILL insisted on professing (in his “suicide” letter) that Casey is innocent & AGAIN tried to FRAME her “friends.”

That kind of DISGUSTING ANIMAL WHO WOULD TRY TO BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR WHAT HIS S L U T of a daughter did (COLD-BLOODED MURDER)!! deserves EXACTLY what he is getting & MORE.

Maybe CA asked GA to go get jewelry with a heart on it for Caylee for the funeral ... and then he heard about the heart sticker in the banana dump (doc dump for those that didn't see Brandi's banana dump truck). ??? that would make one go hmmm ???

I mean what woman asks a man (no offense guys) to go get jewelry .. and doesn't give them some idea (or in my case, a complete description) of what they want?  ....

I read something along those lines, I wanna say it was a skiing accident, tho and that it happened in High school. I hate to say it, but the fact that he is in a wheelchair I think could stir up emotion/sympathy for the Anthony case.  Does anyone else feel that this could happen?  Maybe a jury might find someone in a wheelchair more believable than someone who is not...just sayin.

  I bet she is sooo angry at George for doing this.  Now people will say it her fault (even as she sits in jail with everything taken from her)   because George is a big baby and tried to kill himself   why does every think happen to her ::MonkeyTongue::

maybe he was just trying to get some "peace and quiet".

Exactly!!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/sad_yes.gif)  It's become such a pattern with them, that we really could look around first, at whatever it is they would rather we didn't focus on.
 

hi always, i have a bigger pic for your sweet grandaughter to facilitate easier petting. ::MonkeyWink::


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What's happenin', hot stuff??

ITA ... I never thought "crass" would be put in that blank!  But good for you A1!  Your mother would be proud! 

Sounds like the whole jewelry story is completely untrue start to finish.

I suspect they're being blackmailed, and the jewelry story is a cover because George took $ with him. Cindy thought of jewelry to explain the $, without thinking it through.

Do you know what friends he was trying to frame, or was the word friends just used? I'll bet Jesse was one of those friends.

Thank you Brandi.

Sorry, editing my post!

 ::MonkeyHaHa::

The document dump.

I disagree.

If George was going to break ... the five page letter would not have upheld both Casey and Cindy.

Think about it.  George's intention was to commit suicide.  He would not have to face Cindy's wrath but ... HE DID NOT BREAK!!!  Justice for Caylee Marie again took a back seat.

Janet

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Suicide Note Found With George Anthony
Casey Anthony Notified Of Hospitalized Father
POSTED: 3:31 am EST January 23, 2009
UPDATED: 12:59 pm EST January 23, 2009

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Authorities in Daytona Beach confirmed on Friday that a suicide note was found with George Anthony at a hotel along U.S. Highway 1.

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

George Anthony also wrote in the letter that his wife, Cindy, could do better than him. He also wrote about his son, Lee Anthony ...

http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html

OK.  So if this is true that the letter states that he believes KC is innocent - and that her friends killed Caylee - then my opinion is that the whole suicide attempt is STAGED.   I don't believe it anymore.   He didn't take enough pills on purpose.  And, he left his phone on - ON PURPOSE.     

Is word of this "letter" that I'm just hearing about a rumor or something that has been substantiated? 

If it's true and he was trying to put the blame on someone else (or even to take it himself) I think he was just multi-tasking.

Just beer. He did walk to the car. If he'd overdosed they'd have had to put him on a stretcher.

Judge Rules Casey Must Attend Future Hearings

Friday, January 23, 2009 – updated: 5:22 pm EST January 23, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- There was an important development Friday in the legal case against Casey. Judge Stan Strickland has ordered her to attend all future court proceedings (read judge's order).

have you all seen this already? I'm running behind  ::MonkeyEek::

Right and wrong are very elusive concerning to what is appropriate and what is not in regards to funerals.

When my mother passed on ... my father wanted Mom cremated with both her engagement ring and wedding band.  Thankfully ... my brother's wife had already read her list of wishes that she penned prior to entering hospital for the final time.  Mom had stated that she wished for engagement ring to be passed on to her only granddaughter.  Those stone make up part of my daughter's engagement ring.

When my mother-in-law passed away ... one of my sister-in-laws bought a very expensive outfit ... jewelry and all.  The reasoning ... Mom was about to take a very special journey and ... she must be dressed accordingly.

Janet
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Yeah some requests are bizzare when it comes to someone you love so much, nothing is odd. i sent the first letter he ever wrote me in with him, because i wanted him to remember what he and i shared, you would think that i would wanted to keep it, i did. But he needed it more! I dont know if its because im sick, or because the news about George startled us all that were still monkeying around last night. Im draineed. If it werent for these monkeys i might be going KC  ::MonkeyConfused::

Exactly

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http://www.wftv.com/news/18551487/detail.html#-

 ::MonkeyNoNo::  From what I understand the pill container was empty when found.  Very likely more than 'several'. 

I couldn't agree more.  If that's the case, it's yet another Anthony scheme and he made a fool out of me again.

If he were trying to take the blame he'd have taken the blame, not tried to put it on her friends.

Who do you think is blackmailing them?

I'm beginning to wonder if this was a "cry for help" and a way to "get away from Cindy"....

Love it!  No I hadn't seen this yet.

If the reports about this letter are true, then I agree with you completely and disagree with myself in my previous posts. 

The quoted article above starts out with the statement "several" pills.  Which article says the container was empty? And if he'd taken it all, how did he walk to the car? He had 4 beers left, so I assume he drank two. I figure they estimated based on what was left in the container, how many pills he'd taken, but they might just have asked him. He was conscious when they found him.

I know.   I'm so mad right now.    I wish they would just throw them all  in jail, already.   I can't believe this crap.   I have no pity at all for George, now.   I have to admit, I fell for it earlier, though.   I think I need a beer!   grrr.

IIRC, on the 911 tape, Conway said noone had seen GA since he left the house at 3:30 am.. so what is it? 3:30am or going out for jewelry?

And if he had taken a lot more don't they pump your stomach, or give you something to vomit?

He didn't need to do this to get away from Cindy. He could have just gone. He's left her before.

I'm having a hard time believing that LE would allow the contents of his letter to be released. Do you really think they would?

And had a car with OnStar ... on purpose ...

He was an ex-LE ... LE don't usually "threaten" suicide ... they put a gun to their head ... which is why their suicide rate is so much higher than that of the average citizen.  It was a ploy ... I'm convinced of that now!  I take back every sympathetic and nice thing I said about this scenario this morning!  (and okay - I'll take a little time between refrigerator trips from this point on.)

I know he wasn't trying to take the blame - my sentence was a little unclear, and inside the parentheses should have said (or had even tried to take it himself).  At first, before I ever heard of this letter, that thought popped into my head.  (His taking the blame himself before going down)

haha ya and we all know how accurate the media always is. the le isnt going to release details from theletter, they said in the press conference they dont have it. i think too many people are taking bits of info and running way to fast with it. just my two cents. ::MonkeyWink::

That is GOOD news.   Thanks.

Yes, they do.

... and he broke open a case of beer and ... put four in the fridge on purpose.

 ::MonkeyConfused::

Janet

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George Anthony Found Safe After Threatening Suicide
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed In Daughter's Death
POSTED: Thursday, January 22, 2009
UPDATED: 2:04 pm EST January 23, 2009

Local 6 News showed video of the motel room in which George Anthony was staying. A cardboard container of a 12-pack of beer was in the room with four unopened bottles in the refrigerator

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18543583/detail.html

No it was not GA!  It was a talking head attorney on HLN.  I'm not defending GA at all just trying to get what I heard on HLN out here correctly.

This is the second time I fell for this, the first time after the grand jury, I was thinking now he will be truthful and face facts, and now this. I will never fall for anything from this family again.

Against my better judgment I had to post what I am thinking at the moment. Everyone on this board comes here for one thing, justice for Caylee.

I was actually a bit surprised while I was reading in the previous thread the comments on George being a pathological liar, deflecting and possibly setting this attempt up to cause doubt. I take this to be speculation based on emotions, emotions that run deep when we see this sweet little girl and wish so much that she had a different set of circumstances. We can barely speculate on what's wrong with Casey let alone the members of her family.

Ask yourself a question. If he had successfully killed himself, would everyone here be talking about him being a pathological liar that should burn in hell?  

If the answer to that is yes then we must be very judgmental as a human race.

Good for Judge Strickland.  That slore should NOT be allowed to live happily in her little cell and NOT think about what she did to her daughter ... her family ... and everyone!

Good catch, unless there is a 24 hour jewelry store near by. ::MonkeyRoll::

Channel 2's article on their website says the suicide note was 8 pages, channel 6's article says it was 3 pages, and somewhere else it was reported as 5 pages.

Just an example of why we have to be careful believing things we read and hear from the media when a story is new.

Frustrating, I say.

Okies, throwing you a lifeline Fuzz, cuz that's just a tad bid too far 'thinking outside of the box'.. ya know?   ::MonkeyWink::

This is past ridiculous…………My belief is that it was planned and when they write their book it will bring in more money. George was a policeman so he knows how to get lost………..and if he wanted to really kill himself he would have. Ex- law enforcement usually put a gun in their mouth. He had no intention of killing himself. but yes he does need to be locked up for a while.

This family is past dysfunctional……………..I thought that at first he just wanted to get away from it all but evidently he wanted to be found. You don't text everyone you are committing suicide if you are going to do it. From what I read he wrote a note saying KC didn't do it, and one of her friends did. That is past despicable that he would try to implicate innocent people AGAIN.  

All this would just go away if that no good daughter would confess or her parens would tell the d*mn truth. I am sure Lee knows something also.  

Like I have said from the beginning we will see WHO is still standing in the end, as the largest EVIL will destroy the lesser evils.

Maybe like Baez tried to imply, that George had something to do with it.

It had been posted earlier today, that the defense witness list lacked addresses, etc....

AMEN TO THAT.

No, I dont want anyone to burn in hell, but I did not make a rash decision about George, I have had what, seven months to think about it.  And I still stand by my post this am.  If he had died, I would feel sorry, but that would not change my mind.

True, but I was trying to work from the available documentation. Confused here about details from the letter, since they've already published that it says Cindy could do better, that Casey's innocent, that her friends had something to do with it, and "something" about Lee they're not detailing. And now they say LE doesn't have the letter? If they don't, who does? How do we know, then, that there ever was a letter? Was that made up, too?

IMO I'm going to not rush to judgement on this one...we've heard all along that George might have a tendency to "do something".  Remember he bought a gun and someone told on him right away and the LE came out and got the gun, which was hidden in his car (so it would be with hime at all times) (not in the house in case protesters broke in, etc.).  I think George has too many things to worry about to spend his time thinking up ways to fool people.  Each person is an individual and just because "most" would do things in a certain way doesn't mean all would, or that George would...heck, I don't know how I would act in his circumstances and pray to God I never have to find out. 

The more you think about it the more it does appear that this was a diversion from the Doc-drop....JMOO

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You're funny.   But, I agree.   If he is trying to put it on the friends - and off of Casey - then I don't believe his suicide attempt was for real.   I believe it was all staged.     I realize he is under great stress.   But, I believe he KNOWS his daughter killed Caylee.   He's a jerk for trying to pin it on innocent people.     What's next in this crazy case?   geez.

::MonkeyDance::

Yes I read awhile back that it was a surfing accident.

Turbo, do you have the link for this?

This photo upsets me  ::MonkeyNoNo::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/CayleeLips.jpg)

VERY good point. How about this: it was 0 pages. And he took no pills at all, but just flushed his meds down the toilet and drank 2 beers to seem chemically altered and sleepy.

Last night was unbelievable and a good lesson in taking new info with a grain of salt.

I think now I may know where Casey gets her Histrionic behavior from..... ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll::

Unfortunately Newfie, I don't think she even thinks about it in the court room.  Remember her last court appearance when they were talking about the crime scene photos and the duct tape on Caylee's little scull.  She looked like they were talking about football scores! 

Thanks Cyn for the info.  Guidepost & I are also waiting on any 411 on the January 30th docket.  Which btw I have looked and can find nothing.

see brandis post above. 3 different news stations are repoting 3 different lengths of the letter.

Great post

It's just candy wax lips, isn't it? She's just chewing on them, I think. But it's gross. Lots of things kids do look creepy. Hard to tell the normal creepy apart from the creepy creepy.

It sounds to me like Cindy and George got in one of their fights.  Conway did say that Cindy is now "mad".  The jewelry story was Cindy's way of trying to make it back all about them without having to say "we had a fight".  Its only been Cindy's story so far.  Why did she not rush to check on George in the hospital?  hmmm

From what source did we hear what was written in the letter, please?

WHO goes out to buy jewelery for an UNPLANNED FUNERAL for his wife at 3:00 AM??

The WHOLE story stinks as does everything they tell.  I want them all put in jail at this point.

always did you see the pic i posted for your grandaughter?

If he truly left a letter saying that Casey is innocent and left a list of her friends as suspects ... if that is true ... then my answer would still be yes.  Sorry - (I am pretty judgmental and it works for me) 

I read 'empty container' in one of the media updates given earlier this afternoon.  I was in here last night as the news broke, as were many others, and stayed til nearly 5 am reading updates as they were released.  There was a *reason* that they said George was dead when they found him.  There was a *reason* that they then said he was able to be resuscitated.  Perhaps it was all hogwash, I don't know.  Which article says he was conscious when found? 
   

It was on Fox.

.

                         (http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr319/kcjackie/avatars/emoticons/f1b094ba.gif)

Well you can all probably take a little satisfaction that he didn't have a very pleasant time in ER. They most likely inserted a tube in him and pumped his stomach, even if they induced vomiting first. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Yes, that appears to be what it is but the pic still bothers me.  So do the dark circles under her eyes.

No, how sweet, where???

I don't buy a word of it any more, and am now wondering if he had something to do with it to go to such an elaborate story.

thats the first thing that struck me. :(

I guess I have to admit that if George had successfully killed himself - but pointed the finger of blame at innocent people before he died - then yes, I guess I would still be calling him a liar.    I guess I'm judgemental.   

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html

...   ::MonkeyHaHa::

I see you Anothermonkey!!!! ::MonkeyCool::

I tend to agree with you. The thing is, we have seen Cindy tell boldfaced, evil lies to protect her daughter WITHOUT FLINCHING. She stares straight ahead without an ounce of emotion on her face or in her eyes. Her eyes are cold and emotionless. George, on the other hand, has seemed very uncomfortable and at the end of his rope, stammering and confused, just about every time he has spoken to the media. I am not saying he is in any way a pillar of morality in this family; I am just saying, I really do think the guy meant to kill himself, and I feel badly for him. I can't help it. I think he is a bit weak emotionally and allows himself to be bullied by Cindy; Richard Grund even said so. Richard Grund had said (oh, gosh, where did I read this????) that Cindy rules the home and George was going to go along with Cindy's stance about Casey post-Caylee disappearance because that's what Cindy wanted him to do. That does not excuse his behavior in any way. But I still can't help feeling bad for someone whom I really do think was going to kill himself. If I were George, I could see myself getting severely depressed just because of the sheer horror of what my monster daughter did to my own granddaughter.

George has "cracks" that enable you to see his humanity. I haven't seen that with Cindy AT ALL. I wouldn't even doubt that she would lie to her own mother. She is a big gigantic ginormous humongous scary liar.

Just my opinion.

I believe WESH was one of them and said they were told by "investigators". Well all I have to say to that is...LE said they don't have it.

And you all, I do have sympathy for people who have suicide in their family.  We have had our share.  My Great Grandparents shot themselves during the Depression, my favorite cousin went to his front yard and killed himself with a shot gun over a divorce, my girl friends son went to his favorite fishing hole and hung himself in a tree.  But I think George, being an adult, knew his breaking point, he should have gotten help in the beginning. 

You're right Lovin ... sometimes I forget and try to impose normal people's feelings onto Casey ...  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I posted one similar on the last thread towards the end there.  I did not post this one for the creepy factor of the Mr. PotatoHead heart lookin lips.  The one I did post was not nearly as creepy as this one.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4435.100 (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4435.100)

Yep!  He wasn't going to kill himself.  This is just more Anthony drama.  Men shoot themselves in the head.  Women take sleeping pills.  He was gone all day.  If he were going to kill himself, he would have done it and gotten it over with.  There's some angle about his writing the letter about Casey's innocence and bla,ming friends.  I know if I were about to die, I'd ask for forgiveness, not make my sins worse.  Just another gimmick.

yep yep yep. the rotten acorn doesnt fall from the decaying tree.

She looks sad and tired.

When you consider the above article and ... then the following article ... it is obvious that BOTH George and Cindy are not just on a mission to protect their daughter from the legal consequences of her actions ... they are determine to implicate others to accomplish their mission.

Janet

+++++++

Cindy Anthony Talks To Investigators About Zanny, Caylee In Newly Released Interview
Friday, September 26, 2008 – updated: 10:30 pm EDT September 28, 2008

Cindy said she doesn't believe any of it now and that she doesn't believe Caylee was with Zanny.

"I think that Zanny, at this point, was a real person in the beginning, but I think Zanny is now whoever's watching Caylee," Cindy said.

"Do you think we're spinning our wheels looking for a Zanny?" an investigator asked.

"I'm not sure. I have two theories. I think Zanny could either be Amy or Jesse at this point," she told them.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17567283/detail.html

According to the police report, Cindy told the officers that George was last seen at 10:30 yesterday morning. I am not sure where 3:00 or 3:30 AM has come from.

I also underlined the jewelry comment.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Casey%20Anthony/incidentreport.jpg)

You are welcome Newfie. How's the beer?

I don't remember it that way at all!! 

Respectfully disagree.   George has told many lies throughout this whole ordeal.   The only reason he testified at the GJ, imo, is because he was forced to do so.   Now, he is going to continue to defend KC and blame Caylee's death on innocent people?  Makes me sick.     ::MonkeyNoNo::

ITA Turbo.  And as I said, no woman that I know, including myself, sends a man out on his own to buy jewelry!

Since it is pretty well determined they are not going to get immunity, I now believe this was a ploy for sympathy to keep LE from charging them.  They won't bury that baby, because LE said there would be no charges until after the funeral, and now they are trying to position themselves for public sympathy.

It is a ALL B.S. and I hope like heck LE doesn't fall for it. Charge them and then let them get all the psychological help they need in prison.  (call me cynical, but I am convinced this is what is going on)

This may already be postd as I'm running behind also - when I clicked on the link to read the Judge's order, there is a tiny little blurb underneath "Jose Baez hired to teach law students."  Seems they have hired him at FL law school to teach TRIAL PREP to advanced law students at a wage of $4,500 per semester.  The dean of the law school did not even know he was under investigation by the FL Bar until reporters advised him.  OMG - hope no one needs a lawyer in the next few years if they're gonna be graduating more BJ's.

I guess I am judgemental too because he will forever be a liar as far as I'm concerned. This stunt was just another diversion in a long line of diversions.

http://friendsofcaylee.com/
New page created by Richard G. for Caylee

I have never heard of ANYONE ever buying jewelery to wear to a funeral. Have you?

A dress maybe if they didn't have something appropriate, but jewelery?  NOT!!

No more sympathy from me.Sit down with LE with NO strings attached for a 8 hour question and answer session.Anything less is and you reep what you sow!

::HUGS::
Yes I agree this man has needed help long before anything ever happened to Caylee.  Maybe if he would have had some, this tragedy would not have happened.  George has never been the man of the house, he has always been belittled by his wife and daughter.  Caylee had not gotten to that age yet and still saw him as her grandfather.  It is very sad, no matter if he lied or not!
He has lost his granddaughter and the justice that she deserves comes at yet another price for him...his daughter.  Almost all of you in here are parents, put yourselves in their place for one second, no matter if you agree with their actions or not, I dont, but I still have to understand that they have lost someone and learning the details on the news each night.  THAT IS BEYOND CREEPY AND I WISH IT ON NO ONE.  Not to mention your murderess daughter signed her remains over to her skeezball of a lawyer. 

     He had fast food to.  Eat   Drink write a letter =sit back and wait to be found ::MonkeyShocked::  it never ends

That is really pretty, I will show it to her. 

IMO, alot of what is being reported at this time is speculation. George Anthony is Baker Acted into a mental health facility and ALL of his records are HIPAA protected. So all of these reports of what he took and what he said and what he wrote right now are ALL RUMORS. I am far from an apologist for George Anthony, but the hatred for him would be better served if directed towards his daughter, the murderer. I find it rather unsettling to hear the venom directed at someone who is so absolutely broken.. The unsubstantiated rumors are not very helpful to anyone.. It just gives us more cr*p to read and sift thru...I really am sorry to read alot of this  ::MonkeyConfused::

Many times they give you charcoal tablets to absorb pills or possibly narcan to counter the effects.

Good ... though drinking and posting probably a bad idea ... but trying very hard to watch myself!  You'll let me know if I get out of hand right?!   ::MonkeyHaHa::

im a cynic and i disagree with you. theres not always an elaborate backstory. sometimes it is just what it is. casey murdered her child, desecrated her body and now is sitting back laughing at how people are attacking her family as much as her.

Have fun at dinner and show that pretty smile. Floss or no floss it is beautiful.

Law School Hires Jose Baez To Teach Students
Friday, January 23, 2009 – updated: 6:00 pm EST January 23, 2009

http://www.wftv.com/news/18551642/detail.html   ::MonkeyEek::

He was in good enough shape to walk to the car. Couldn't have taken much of anything, couple of beers maybe...........

::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::  ::MonkeyHaHa::
He might want to consider a different career, maybe baggage handler at Orlando International Airport

No sympathy,and or Empathy until these Grandparent's do what is right.Sit down with LE with absolutely NO IMMUNITY and answer all questions forthright and let the chips fall where they may.Anything less and you reep what you sow!

KEEPTHEFAITH

We are very judgmental as a human race. And we are doubly judgmental when we think someone's lied to us or tried to manipulate us.

I don't think I'd go so far as to say George has been honest throughout ALL of this. He's lied about some things. But he did tell about the decomp, and that's important.

Sorry but I must disagree with you.  Each of us grandchildren picked out jewelry for my grandmother when she passed.  She was burried with it all.  It was a token of love from us so she had a piece of us to go with her.  It was more for sentimental reasons and not for show.  I do not find it weird, now I would find it weird if it was so she could display Caylee's corpse wearing it, knowing that the corpse is just bones at this point. 
Sorry to disagree, normally I just skip posts I disagree with, but this struck a nerve.

yes. can you imagine if its like this here what it will be like in the jury room when jose starts slinging his bs? real nice. caseys guilty as hell and were already picking at the still twitching body of her dying family.

I hope you are never in his sorry assed shoes...
Time for me to go for a walk.. see y'all later on

WHAT????????????????????????????? 

Oh my Lordy!  Now, THAT is suicide!  Professional suicide!!

She does have a pinkish-purple ring around the eye that's kind of odd..

Like i said..more histrionics from this family...
Now, I have sympathy for tortured souls who really are tortured...who deal with depression and anxiety, etc..And feel they need to end it all...I hurt for those folks..I do..
BUT..
This man did not want to kill himself..he wanted attention...just a play to say,"hey! Over here! Here I am !" It may also have been his way of trying to control some fragment of his life since Cindy controlls everything..even when the man farts...
If he really wanted to kill yourself, he would have...It doesnt take much to get it right the first time.....If you tell someone youre gonna do it, you wont do it..period...

These folks need to tell all they know...each and every stinking one of them...It is such a disgrace to Caylee..and to her memory..to sit back and play circus while she rots away in a box.....They ALL make me wanna vomit....

If George did not put the words...that her friends killed Caylee, and his attempted suicide failed, which it did....do you think Cindy would have let him in the house, without him stating that about the friends killing Caylee??

George was covering his own BUTT!!!! 

Anothermonkey,Are you there?

My Aunt loved loved loved flowers, so all of us picked up a flower of different colors and put it around her in her casket,  probably odd to some, but it looked really pretty..

 ::MonkeyTongue:: BJ's or JB's?

The report clearly states the jewelry was for Caylee, not for Cindy to wear. That is why we have been discussing dressing up a skeleton. How in the hell are they going to dress/deck out in jewelry bones? The ME or funeral director isn't going to put her back together and lay her in a casket...is he???? WTF???

Oh, please - nothing having ANYTHING to do with planes!    ::MonkeyHaHa::

I agree with Dolce, its not for show, its true raw emotion, and love for whoever passed. i posted this earlier.
   When my boyfriend died, i went out and bought him his favorite brand of jeans, a new polo tee and he wore the sunglasses he loved so much *we had mathing dior sunglasses*. So i can understand buying new stuff so they could be buried with our loved ones, but with all due respect, Caylee is skeletonized, she has no wrists or neck...Maybe it was a crucafix.. I know this is what threw George over the edge, because the day i went to buy Reeses' clothes I can hardly remember because all i wanted to do was die, and be with reese...just as george stated.    

I agree to disagree with you Flamom.I had sympathy last night but i changed my mind.Nothing more nothing less.Until they sit down with LE and answer all questions truthfully and forthright they reep what they sow.PERIOD.Typically the only reason you retain an attorney,and or ask for immunity is because you did something wrong!JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.

KEEPTHEFAITH

People do strange things.  I think dressing up a skeleton is "beyond bizarre" to say the least..  but not so strange to put jewelry on a just-deceased person.  (My grandpa was buried with his glasses. Thank god, actually, because were it not for his glasses, nobody would have recognized him. They did THAT bad of a job on him).

She was using those asterisks as an aside. parentheses would have been better. She's thanking Russ mid-sentence, for reporting about George. NOT saying he reported that anybody was thankful he was dead. 

It looks to me like she's been crying - especially since her little nose is red, too.

Thank-you that was very nice of him.

not really  ::MonkeyConfused::

Both of my kids have those circle...it is the blood vessels that are prominent underneath the thin skin....the blue vessels make the eye look bruised..and i can assure you..my kids are the FARTHEST from ever being abused...
They are more prominent in my kids when they are tired, or sick....

he DID. go listen to all the le and fbi interviews with him.

Still, it wouldn't be something you send a guy out to do at 3 AM.

Ask KC   ::MonkeyLaugh::

Fast food  ::MonkeyRoll::

If he had killed himself, it would not change my opinion of the facts.  The fact would still remain that GA is and was and maybe always will be a LIAR.

I think the emotional reaction is what the anthony's were counting on.

No - Jewelry for a funeral?!  (and I don't care what time she sent him out to buy it!)

But as I said before, sometimes I forget and try to impose my (or those I know) feelings on this family ...  and they (the As) are so far off any normalcy chart ... (and believe me, I come from a huge family ... we have our odd ducks, quacks, liars, stealers and cheaters ... but nothing like this bunch!)

I have one thing to add - then I think I'll sit out for awhile.     

What about the friends who are falsely being accused of killing Caylee?    What about the fact that they have to go hire lawyers to protect themselves.   Wasting their money on this BS?   What about how their lives are ruined because of Casey?    And now George writes a note and says negative things about these same innocent people, AGAIN?    I'm sorry.   The A Family needs to come clean and quit blaming everyone for what Casey has done.     THEN, I MIGHT HAVE SOME PITY FOR THEM.

omg how many of you have actually listened to all his interviews with the le and fbi and then compared them to cindys.

im outta here too.

I had them. In my case it was a combination of secondary smoke, and crying for about an hour every morning. (abuse.)

But allergies can cause them, and so can lack of sleep. In Caylee's case, it could be the chloroform. JMO.

we bought jewelery for my grandmother..and me and my mom and aunt all went to the funeral home and I did her makeup and nails..I wanted her to look just like she did when she was well, and I trusted no one else to do that but us....
I cannot imagine they would dress and bedazzle a skeleton...i think maybe it would be something more along the lines of something to lay in the casket with her....

I doubt we will ever hear the truth from any appalling Anthony.........

BJ's masquerading as JB's!!  I tried to put the rolling eyed monkey icon in here but still don't know how to add them to the post!!

 ::MonkeyConfused::    There he goes.

There's nothing wrong with being judgemental.  We make judgements throughout our lives.  We judge what paths we wish to take.  We judge which friends we want to be with.  Life is a series of judgements.  As for me, I judge people who kill innocent children to be bad people, as well as those who try to help them escape the punishment which is judged to be appropriate by a court of law.  If we do not judge people who kill the innocent to be unworthy of living in our society, what kind of society would we have?  "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crises, maintain their neutrality."

That to me was a rumor given I read the police report that Cindy claimed to have sent him out around 10 in the morning.  How could it have been 3am when the police were not even called until around 10:30pm??

I think a lot of speculation and not many facts are being put out here on this board right now.  Granted that is how things go normally, but still that is clearly posted in the police report as being 10am.

When Our Heather was taken from us we went out and bought her the most beautiful princess like, glittery, stunning dress we could find. And the first thing Daddy said was that she needed a shawl to cover her shoulders with that dress. We also buried her with her guitar, photos and her little brother placed a ring in her coffin. I think you choose what to send off with your loved one by what is important to them, and things that you don't want them to be without. However...we did not go shop for anything at 3 am..that is just weird.

I don't know how many times I have heard my husband say that he wanted to die and go be with Heather. I can understand that comment coming from George.

I'm sure LE still has some questions for them.Don't you think?To lawyer up when your granddaughter has been MURDERED and dumped in the woods like trash is not what i would consider forthcoming!I don't wish that kind of pain and misery on my worst enemy.Continue to sit down with LE.Apologize if you've been a distraction in finding JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE and i think many people may be forgiving.Maybe not!GOD shall judge.Not me.I just don't,and won't have anymore sympathy until they cooperate 110%.Whatever LE needs.GIVE IT TO THEM.PUT UP OR SHUT UP!JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE......PERIOD!

Excellent point Dolce..and I for one jumped on the 3 am band wagon a little to quick possibly. Where did that time come from?

Yes, and as I recall, the reporting to us was via phone calls from Tim Miller who was reporting what he/Tim was hearing in Texas:  First it was:  George is dead; then: George couldn't be resusciated; then: George could be resusciated; then: George is not dead....and so on.  The reporting was like the reporting in a "fog of war".  You can never believe the first reports.  However, the reporting was taken seriously because it was coming from Tim Miller, and we all know that Tim would only tell us what he believed to be true.  So, IMO, the early reporting was blended in with a lot of emotion: in other words, people were scared for George.

Does anyone know where that media article is that has the bolded above?

When I read the thing about the jewelry, I thought they were talking about picking out jewelry that was in the home. Were they talking about actually shopping for jewelry -- or about picking out something from what Caylee already had? My daughter is only 6 months old, and she already has jewelry, for example. Her one aunt bought her a Miraculous Medal gold necklace, and her other aunts bought her cross necklaces. Just wondering.

I agree with you Peanut.  George has been the most truthfull out of the entire bunch when it comes to his interviews with LE and FBI.  Now they have as a whole mislead the media and the entire nation who is watching, mostly lead by Cindy, but last I checked we were not LE or FBI.

I really wonder half the time if everyone on this forum reads back the beginning threads or has been following this case at all as finely as most on this board, and most who have had to leave this board, have done.  I see a lot of close minded and harsh people on this board and that is sad. 

Maybe it is a subtle way of telling him that he better go back to law school.

Dolce ... I agree with all the words in your post.

Closure when a loved one passes often involves very personal gestures from those left behind.

Janet

Ha..the way I look at it...KC will only be mad because the attention has been taken away from her!

I'm sorry. :smt056

I really wanna be able to give some kind of empathy to this family but they make it almost impossible. George writes in his letter Casey is innocent? I tend to agree with the posts above, this so called suicide attempt was staged. JMO.

Apologies to Dolce and anyone else who posted that they left things in the casket with their loved ones.  That I understand.  But you each went and picked something that you personally thought would be important to your loved one. 

CA didn't do that ... she sent GA ???
I don't know, in the words of another Monkey ... it raises my hinky meter ...

Why are some monkeys saying the jewelry was for cindy?  It's pretty clear she asked george to pick it out for Caylee (above).  Why would she want jewelry for Caylee?  Isn't that morbid, and even in some way, disrespecting her? Maybe it's just me, but this sounds horrible.  cindy is such a thoughtless woman, I really can't stand her.  Why not bury her with her doll, or something she truly loved instead of something that would mean something to cindy?  If it was for a jewelry container of some sort to put ashes in to give some to casey, well that's even sicker, IMO.  casey the sociopath would actually love that.

It seems when you go easy on the Anthonys, people flip out on you.  I remember there was a time when I was trying to play Devil's Advocate when it came to George and Cindy (moreso George)..  let's just say my thoughts were not well received.   ::MonkeyConfused::

ok, whew!  lol  thanks for clarifying that, NO1ZMONKEY!  i was fixin to go find that pic of looking at someone sideways..   ::MonkeyHaHa::  yes, it was hectic.
 

I just disagree Peanut.At some point the open dialogue between the Anthony's and LE stopped!Why?Continue to be open and cooperative with LE and you have nothing to worry about except mourning in peace.From what i've witnessed they have done nothing outside of those first interviews to uphold JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!I continue to put the focus on Caylee and not the Anthony's and whether their feeling's get hurt anymore until they get rid of the lawyer's and cooperate fully with LE.I don't see anything wrong with that! ::MonkeyCool::

KEEPTHEFAITH

There's has been speculation about this photo from KC's photobucket as per WS via

http://crimesearchersonline.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=31&func=view&id=3026&catid=23

Added: June 26, 2008. "Lots of photobucket activity-- this is when she first uploads the image which in my opinion resembles the area where the remains were discovered. She revisits the image several times that evening and also in the future."



I think it may be where the deserted house was instead.

i think that was just a misunderstanding from one of our monkeys. In the audio of conways 911 it kinda sounds like he said 3:30 am. but it was indeed 8:30 am. i heard the call myself.  

*Just clarifying that I'm not saying anybody currently posting was rude to me.. it was another monkey.

That picture really bothers me.

Nevertheless ... anything that has come out of George Anthony's mouth in public ... in his suicide note ... implies he will never stop protecting her from the consequences of her actions.  He will implicate her friends if necessary.  He will sacrifice justice for his precious granddaughter.

Dolce ... I find that dispicable!!

Janet

Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they're close-minded and harsh! ::MonkeyNoNo::

I listened to every interview.   But, I also don't believe everything he has said.  I question whether or not he really saw KC and Caylee on 16 June, for one thing.   

I also saw him on Larry King stating that garbage for 19 days in a trunk smelled bad.... 

I'm not trying to cause arguements - but I feel that anger towards the A family is justified.   When they decide to come clean about everything, then I think a lot of people will feel empathy towards them.   

I'm glad that George did not commit suicide.  I don't wish that on anyone.  I'm glad he is getting help, I'm sure he needs it.  I only wish the A family would come clean.  I pray for justice for Caylee.

Thanks Fuzz, yeah I saw her explanation.  Man do I need to take a chill pill.   ::MonkeyTongue::  Guess I'll go have a ciggie instead.   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Is there really a letter, isn't there a letter, george was dead, george is alive.  This is just getting too out of control for me.   ::MonkeyConfused::  The media and jumping to conclusions, etc.  I don't have an opinion either way on George.  I want to look at the evidence that was released Wed and go over all prior documents.  All these smoke and mirrors going on just rehash hard feelings.  I think we need some "Monkey Love"!  Somebody got some monkey love out there?

Exactly.   

And that doesn't make you close-minded and harsh Janet.It just means you have a diiferent lense which you view the world with!GOD BLESS AMERICA.Canada to Janet!

No apologies needed, its all good hun.

I still do not think that was the whole reason for him leaving, I think that maybe they fought and he left.  This could just be Cindy's way to save face, but regardless George has been the most sentimental out of the bunch.  Cindy is only sentimental when the camera is on her.  George for the most part has been silent, except when he was out yelling at protestors and protecting his house.  While I do not disagree with organized and quiet protesting, I did not agree with the screaming and throwing of things that errupted quite often there.
George is a follower, a follower of his WIFE.  Cindy has left him, belittled him in front of his children, had another man living in their house when they were separated, I am sorry but this guy is not a "manly man"...I am not surprised he has broken down.  I DO NOT AGREE WITH HIS ACTIONS, but do not wish him dead or think that his attempt to reach out for help is funny or a ploy in any way.

I don't think anybody is cool with ANYbody who wants to stick up for a child killer.  Whatever their motives, they're still wrong in doing so.  That doesn't automatically mean George wanted his granddaughter dead, and isn't feeling any pain over her loss.  He was at least willing to do the right thing and testify against Casey. Maybe that doesn't make up at all for any of the bullsh*t he's said publicly.. but we have yet to know with 100% certainty, what he knew, when he knew it, if he saw Caylee's body in that trunk, or anything else for that matter.

He was missing since early morning.  If you read Cindy's report it said he had a job interview.  When he didn't show in the afternoon for a meeting, Conway reported him missing 911.  Cindy said in the MPR that George was upset because she had asked him to pick out jewerly for Caylee the day before. 

Dolce ... talk to me.

 ::MonkeyWaa::

Janet

If it was either places I wonder who took the picture or did she have a camera with a timer on it?

I just watched ole George lie on Larry King about the trunk smelling from garbage that was 18 or 19 days old. Doesn't sound very truthful to me...........He is despicable!!!

Monkeys, I was out all day. I had already read about George, but I was just wondering, was there any kind of a document dump today -- any more evidence or things like that?

Not sure if this has been answered because everytime I post, I get behind.  I think this was someone forming an opinion on HLN not an actual quote from Conway, could be wrong though.  You are not being ignored Karma!   ::MonkeyWink::

Wow, first of all that is NOT what I was meaning, and second of all I happen to agree with what you have been saying about justice for Caylee.  If you feel you are closeminded and found that offensive, then apologies for calling you out...but I was not calling you out.
You need to re-read my post before you start making comments.  Its not about agreeing with me or not, its about looking at the big picture and taking EVERYTHING involved in this case into consideration.  Think how you would feel in this situation, have a heart a bit, be human about it, have emotion....I get being skeptical of things, but some times when you step back and look at the whole entire picture you see more than you did at first sight.

    AND FOR A 2YR OLD==GIVE HER A PIECE OF YOUR JEWELRY-SOMETHING WARM AND PERSONAL  THIS IS NOT AN ADULT AND WHY NOT GO TOGETHER AND BUY SOMETHING  FOR HER.   tAKE THE TIME TO PICK  OUT SOEMTHING SPECIAL.  nOT HEY GEORGE RUN OUT AND GO AND BUY CAYLEE JEWELRY

They do need to come clean.. you are 100% dead-on with that.  I'm also glad George did not commit suicide..  Frankly, I think if given half the chance, he'd do the right thing when it came down to it (on the stand) and put his daughter where she belongs.  He needs to get the hell away from Cindy, for starters.   

I was here last night, too, and ITA.

Exclusive first photo of Baez's class: ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub5/BaezClass.jpg)

I do not know the answer to that question.. but from what I read...I get the picture that they were getting new jewelery of some kind.

Whew!  Those eyes really don't look good.

::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyDance::  ::MonkeyLaugh::  ::MonkeyLaugh::

OMG.... you made me spit out coffee...

That's why I'm wondering if she didn't ask him to pick out something with a heart ... then the doc dump ... then GA's hinky meter went off ... who knows!

I agree that his actions are dispicable, but Janet look at all the info he provided in his testimonies...enough so that they LE and FBI thought it enough to put him in front of the grand jury.  Subpoena'd or not, he got on the stand and told the truth...we got a Murder 1 against Casey.  He is protecting his daughter, which any parent would do.  I DO NOT AGREE with his actions, and I do not think it is right in finding justice for Caylee, I wish he would think of Caylee for once instead of focussing on his 2nd child he is going to now lose.  Maybe he feels that he has already lost Caylee and he does not want to lose another...I dont know.  I would not do this sort of antics if it were my child, and neither would my parents.  This family is crazy, but I still do not think that it is right to laugh at or throw accusations at someone who just tried to off themselves over grief.

Tamikosmom
Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, Missing 6/16/08 Orlando FL (Remains Found) #97
« Reply #63 on: Today at 08:24:37 PM »

George is not the good guy in that dysfunctional household.  When I consider both George and Casey actions that imply neither could not be trusted ... if I was Cindy ... I would have packed my bags ... taken Caylee Marie and ... taken off.  Staying would have implied I would have turned into a controlling shrew.

History reveals what road Cindy chose to take.

Janet
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A Tough Thanksgiving For Anthony Family
Thursday, November 27, 2008 – updated: 12:02 pm EST November 27, 2008

FAMILY TENSION

The released documents show Grund also told investigators Cindy wanted Caylee to call her "Mommy" in front of Casey.

Casey's parents' financial problems almost shattered their marriage but ended up saving it because Cindy couldn't afford divorce. The investigation showed Cindy supported George for years. He lost thousands of dollars in a U.K. lottery scam.

The documents also show the following:

Cindy told her mother that Caylee was her life and her mother says if not for Caylee, Cindy might have harmed herself.
Just before Caylee disappeared, Cindy was about to throw Casey out of the house and try to get custody of Caylee. She caught Casey lying. At one point, Cindy talked about choking Casey, presumably out of frustration.

Friends said Casey was "annoyingly giddy" two weeks after investigators believe Casey murdered Caylee because her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro was returning to Orlando after a trip home to New York for the Fourth of July weekend. Lazzaro told investigators that Caylee was “great” but he did remember telling Casey that he wanted to have sons, because his little sisters taught him how tough it is to raise girls.

Investigators also found Casey's doodlings, writing her name as Lazzaro's wife, with hearts in the script.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4435.msg641630#msg641630

I've been thinking about this all day.  It could mean that control freak cindy wants to know what the hell george wrote in his letter and it better not have been anything truthful.  I think she was afraid he might really tell what he knows and that was her warning that he wouldn't have a place to come home to if he did.  Interesting, that the attorney who is supposed to be representing both of them, decided to "threaten" george, IMO.

YUP! He lied with a straight face on Larry King's show! I believe he has lied a lot more since this all started. And what is "honorable" about showing up to a Grand Jury hearing when ORDERED to do so? We have no idea what he said at that hearing. It has not been published.

::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::

Can you believe this....Bozo hired some of his students to work on the Casey Anthony case. 

Sorry Dolce!You didn't call me out on anything.I tend to enjoy most of your post's but find this post out of character for you.Nothing more.Nothing less.Calling poster's in general close-minded is disrespectful IMOO.

That's so scary!  My nephew is at UCF and has applied to several law schools in FL!  Time out ... need to call him!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

I did Miss Janet.  I think I need to step away from SM for a while, it is not how it once was.

Dolce, that was very well stated. I am with you.

the way I understood it was :

she last saw him at 10:30 am as he was heading out to an interview.

she was speaking of his mental state when she said in the report (paraphrased) that the day prior she had told him to get jewelry. she was saying that her asking him to do this made him more depressed.

she did not state (that I saw) that he went out for jewelry. only that she had asked him the day prior.

Yep.  NONE of this would be going on if KC wasn't such a spiteful bitch!!

george has lied, even if he also has "told the truth" as many speculate he did before the GJ.  So, if I call it like I see it, george still lied.  He lied when he got on LKL and said he smelled "pizza".  He lied when he said he believed the PI's had located an alive Caylee and moved her 9 times.  I call bullshit and even though I'm sad he's hurting, I'm not going to let that cloud my commonsense.  My commonsense tells me george can't be trusted.

who's judging who, any way?  I'm just sayin'...

It's amazing how George trying to kill himself gets people fighting.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyConfused::

Occam's Razor

My official opinion about this alleged suicide attempt (I hope it really wasn't one for his sake) is waiting on the confirmation regarding the note or notes George supposedly left.   I have read several different accounts now as to the length and content of it/them.   

I don't trust any of them, but I distrust George the least.  I can't put my finger on why, but it is what it is. 

I also wonder if we'll learn more about the extent of the suicide attempt, if it even got to that point.

Thanks Klaas!  I needed that!  I miss Tom and all his inapropriate times funny pic posting.

Dolce - What's the matter?  Email me if you'ld like to tell me.

You said that better than I did Anothermonkey.  TY  ::MonkeyWink::

Posting to clarify that I find it morbid since Caylee is nothing but bones, literally.  Maybe some more heart stickers would have seemed more appropriate coming from them.  (sorry, I'm just really sick of this whole family)

Janet - I am not sure I am willing to believe all that the media says or prints.  I know when I worked for DCF - in a very high profile case - there were very few accurate facts.  I was shocked to see all the incorrect articles!!  ::MonkeyEek::

statistically men shoot themselves and women take pills, but that doesn't mean there aren't a few exceptions to the rule.