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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: AZSunny on March 01, 2008, 01:57:23 PM
Thanks Janet. You are always there with an answer!
You are welcome.
AZSunny ... I wonder if Getagrip did a complete translation of that article back in August, 2006.
Off to a Karate Tournament ... three grandkids are participating.
Maybe somebody could check it out.
Janet
http://antillen.nu/content/view/1349/143/
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Quote from: Sue on March 01, 2008, 02:05:05 PM
quite frankly I cant believe with all the connections the family
has and has made through this , that funding hasnt come forward
John Ramsey himself could write a check right now for the rest of the whole
search
I'm not buying any of it either.Looks like hogwash to me...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: klaasend on March 01, 2008, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Anna on March 01, 2008, 01:34:27 PM
Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:
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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home. As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete. There are many many targets for the ROV to look at. Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence. The main reason is the lack of funding. This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult. John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided. Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.
Thanks everyone! You are the best!
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Wow, that was sort of quick?
Edited to add: What I mean is there was just a media blitz about needing donations and I know there were many emails sent from BFN and SM members. Just seems like they didn't wait to see if donations would be coming in.
I am a confused Monkey ...
Umm ... You know this really does not make any sense at all. I say this with the caveat that no one was more excited to hear that the deep water search was finally going to happen. I had heard rumblings of it long before it was ever announced and then it got delayed again until the RV Persistence arrived in Aruba. From all accounts the search lasted longer than what was most likely ever anticipated. It seems like they have been there forever doing yeoman's work searching for Natalee. That is to be commended and a huge thanks.
Now comes my questions. It was about a week ago that donations were first asked for. At no point prior to the Persistence leaving Louisiana during its voyage to Aruba or during the search were donations requested. Not even during the Date Line show was there one reference to donations or a ticker running at the bottom asking for donations, which I personally think was a mistake.
I guess my question is ... it would seem that the deep water search was never intended to be funded by donations. It was with up front money. I know this may be the business consultant in me but if that were the case, none of this makes any sense. With up front money one does not plan a search with available funds only to get 50%, 60% or 70% thru the task at hand.
Sure things happen and unforeseen variables occur. However, there are always contingency plans put in place. No one just looks up one day and sees $0.00 in their bank account, asks for donations and then 1 week later ceases actions.
I am a bit puzzled by all this. No one can count on donations to fund a search that is already going on like this. The deep water search in Aruba is not a normal missing persons search, to say the least. They just asked for donations and in some cases checks are still in the mail and have not been received, yet the search is over. So why did anyone ask for donations if they never gave the donations a chance? And the search seemed to be targeted to be over on Friday.
I guess my question is why was the search not planned knowing that there was a finite amount of money and days available? That would mean that you cant just map everything and not further investigate the hits.
Imagine building a home knowing that you have $200K to spend. Between foundation, framing, electric and plumbing you are at $195K into your budget. Ut-oh. Who would do that? Why would the most important part of investigating hits not be accounted for in the search plan, knowing there was a limit to time and $'s?
I am just a bit puzzled. Actually I am really puzzled.
I really thank them for their efforts, but I am puzzled.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: Sue on March 01, 2008, 02:05:05 PM
quite frankly I cant believe with all the connections the family
has and has made through this , that funding hasnt come forward
John Ramsey himself could write a check right now for the rest of the whole
search
I remember Mr. Ramsey has a net worth of 400 million.
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on March 01, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: San on March 01, 2008, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: blah on March 01, 2008, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: San on March 01, 2008, 12:30:43 PM
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Right, Private Eye,
I think the size of the trap goes more to the size of boat needed to maneuver it and the amount of planning and time required to engage such a vessel.
Blah just doesn't understand.
I guess I dont understand. Are you saying the boat that was used has been identified and the size of this trap is too big to fit on the boat that was used?
No, I am not saying anything except a little boat could be used for a little trap but a huge trap would require a much larger boat. The size of the trap would likely reflect the size of the boat used for placing it. It wouldn't fit on a really small boat.
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In my opinion a trap that size was not in the fishermans huts. So now where was the trap.
Steve Croes got fired from the Tatoo. Could he have used the Tatoo boat for a trap like that. Could a trap like that be tied to a boat and be pulled out to sea. Just thinking here.
Why could it not have been at the fishermans huts? It could have been kept outside.
I was just thinking because they said the huts were broken into. The huts are small.
{Edited to add a picture of the huts:}
Fisherman’s Huts
– Area of beach just north of the Marriott called Hadicuri beach where there are several small huts with individual doors and overhanging roofs. This is where Joran alleges he called Deepak to pick him up and where Joran claims he left Natalee.
That trap was already in the water in 2005, and it has a story....
Question is how long does a peace of clothing last in Salt water before it is completly desolved.
remember the ocean is like a washing machine..2.5 yrs gone and it is still there?????
hmmmm
The story about that cage is a temporary drop point packages.
back to work
Mornin' Minkey...depends on the composition of the fabric...if it was protected by something other in the cage...say a plastic bag...it could survive quite easily...
Here is an interesting *true* story...I know, because I was there
When I was 12 yrs. old...my family spent 3 months off the coast of Cozumel...an expedition to locate a Spanish Ship that had reportedly sunk in that area..I think in 1728 IIRC....after aerial survey...that ship was located...by the outline of the coral that had grown up on the ship...water is very clear in that area....so our boat/large made it to the dive point...we dove for days and days...several mid-sized cannon were brought up...and many chunks of coral that were dropped into drums of I think it was vinegar...to dissolve the calcium around artifacts from the ship. One item that was retrieved blew everyone's mind...out of a chunk of coral came a small drawstring leather pouch...most of the leather still intact...with gold coins in it...it was truly amazing that leather pouch!....moral of story...if that scrap of leathercould survive that long at the bottom of the ocean....I have no problem with any statement by the FBI/Persistence...that they have fabric from that cage....gosh...sorry to get so long winded here....
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The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.
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Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.
This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO
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Quote from: sharon on March 01, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 12:13:15 PM
Dompig blamed Raytheon for the bad radar equipment and said they got new equipment from Denmark.
I remember that too.
And I remember the radar being deemed 'non effective' for heck of alot longer than just june 07. I remember reading that
the radar was unreliable for small boats
-- until the Raytheon equipment was replaced.
Do you remember that too, Rob (glad you are feeling better
)
Does anyone else remember that?? I believe it was a quote from dumpig.
Rob -- I wanted to find Dompig's comment -- I still have not (although I'm pretty certain that San is correct, it was 48 hours)
But I did find an interesing article (not sure how to get it here) that I now remember....
That RAYTHEON did not get the contract in Aruba until November 2005.
I beleive the consensus was that Dompig was , um, mistaken, when he said Raytheon was watching the seas. Back when he said it. Trying to see his exact wording if I get the time to search 48 Hours transcripts from back then
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 01, 2008, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: AZSunny on March 01, 2008, 01:32:41 PM
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Quote from: Kermit on March 01, 2008, 01:11:44 PM
In the letter, Minister Croes promised that the Dutch agents will get all the cooperation from the investigating-team and the management. Also in the letter it appears that the Minister also made an official
request to the Interpol
to review the dossier. "As requested by the PG, the Interpol is asked to try to get hold of the
not yet released informations by the FBI"
, wrote the Minister.
FBI know the truth
They don't lie
You can count on it.
Thanks Kermit. Aruba has been dying to get their hands on the information the FBI has.
Kermit,
when was this letter from Croes sent?
Was this recently done??
(try this again...sorry)
AUGUST, 2006
http://antillen.nu/content/view/1349/143/
Nederland helpt met zaak-Holloway
ORANJESTAD (25-08-06) - Nederland stuurt binnenkort op eigen kosten agenten om de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway te onderzoeken. Het Korps Landelijke Politie Diensten in Nederland (KLPD) gaat op verzoek van minister van Justitie Rudy Croes (MEP), Aruba helpen met de zaak van de Amerikaanse tiener. Croes heeft ook Interpol gevraagd het dossier grondig door te lichten, aldus de Amigoe.
Ruim een jaar geleden verdween Holloway tijdens een schoolreis. Al die tijd is gewerkt aan de zaak, zonder dat een spoor van het meisje is gevonden. Een week geleden heeft minister Croes een brief gestuurd aan Den Haag met een verzoek om hulp. Hij hoopt dat met politieassistentie vanuit Nederland er sneller een oplossing komt voor het onopgeloste raadsel. 'Aruba leeft mee met de ouders en naaste familie, ondanks de negatieve campagne die tegen het eiland is gevoerd', schrijft Croes in de brief.
Het verzoek is gedaan aan minister Johan Remkes (VVD) van Binnenlandse Zaken en de minister voor Koninkrijksrelaties, Atzo Nicolaď (VVD). De KLPD zal naar aanleiding van het verzoek de volledige leiding over het opsporingsonderzoek krijgen. Politiebeambten van het Nederlandse korps komen bovendien speciaal over om de zaak te onderzoeken. Nederland zal ook de kosten betalen die zijn gemoeid met de inzet en het verblijf van deze agenten op Aruba. Verder krijgen ze hier de beschikking over een eigen locatie van waaruit ze aan de zaak kunnen werken. De politieambtenaren mogen een wapen dragen en gebruiken, en krijgen opsporingsbevoegdheid. Ook worden ze voorzien van de relevante gegevens uit het dossier-Holloway en krijgen ze toegang tot alle informatiesystemen.
In de brief belooft minister Croes dat de Nederlandse agenten de volledige medewerking krijgen van de (opsporings-)autoriteiten en het bestuur. Uit het schrijven blijkt dat Croes ook een formeel verzoek heeft gedaan aan Interpol om het dossier op oneffenheden door te lichten. 'Op verzoek van de procureur-generaal tracht Interpol inmiddels de nog niet door de FBI (Amerikaanse federale politie, red.) vrijgegeven data in de zaak boven tafel te krijgen', schrijft de minister in de brief.
Het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) bevestigt op de hoogte te zijn van het verzoek, maar benadrukt dat het niet afkomstig is van procureur–generaal Theresa Croes–Fernandes Pedra, maar van de minister van Justitie zelf. Hij zou Interpol in juli om hulp hebben gevraagd, toen hij een bezoek bracht aan het hoofdkwartier van de internationale politieorganisatie in de Franse stad Lyon.
Het OM is ook op de hoogte van de samenwerking tussen de korpsen uit Nederland en Aruba en meldt dat dit op politieniveau is geregeld en er geen verzoek vanuit het OM is gedaan. 'Het strafrechtelijk onderzoek in de zaak-Holloway staat nog open. Indien de Nederlandse politie hulp kan bieden, zijn ze zeker welkom', aldus voorlichter Mariaine Croes.(bron Amigoe)
Now that request was in 2006 and why go to franse to do it.
There is allready for a long time a working realtion in place between Aruba and Holland it is called the RST group
The RST also has a Working relation with DAS and DIAN and DEA and FBI and the CEA (aruba Intel group)
Rudy do not have to write anything and do not need to ask for help..they are all in Aruba.
These have been in place after september 11
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THE NIGHT THE LIGHTS WENT OUT
Dave Holloway
NANCY GRACE
April 24, 2006
GRACE: Well, Dave Holloway, aren`t there logs and isn`t there surveillance in place in Aruba of all the ships that go out of the tiny island, even at night?
HOLLOWAY: Well, there is but on one of those nights, I think it was June the 7th or June the 8th, the electricity went out on the island for about two hours so you wonder if that would have been the prime opportunity to do it.
Small boats, I don`t think, can be picked up as well as the big ones.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/24/ng.01.html
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Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.
This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO
One can only hope.
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Quote from: Anna on March 01, 2008, 12:05:39 PM
SeaSearcher,
Not to worry, it is always posted here if it appeared in the media compliments of Carpe.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9.180
Look around Replies 193, 194. There is likely even a transcript of the program as well.
Thanks for the link Anna...video's were really interesting and that cage looks to be
more like 9' x 9' x 3' +/- The story seemed to cut short as if there was nothing in the
cage.
At the risk of backlash..does anyone else see a pair of sneakers in 2 of the pictures ?
Maybe someone has already said this..
I don't like to speculate mush without some facts but that is what jumped right out
at me as soon as I looked at them..Ive looked and zoomed and looked again...still
looks like sneakers to me
Thanks again Anna
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Shar - it was the 48 hours program and we do not have that video posted any longer. It was in a bucket that was closed due to copy right issues. Carpe probably still has it and could prolly repost it if I asked. I hate to bother him with this though. I'm sure there is a transcript around somewhere.
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Thanks Janet.
I somehow remember Dompig making the comment first -- sort of early on, the first summer.
But I could be mistaken.
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Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »
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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home. As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete.
There are many many targets for the ROV to look at. Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence.
The main reason is the lack of funding. This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult. John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided. Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.
Thanks everyone! You are the best!
.
Wow, that was sort of quick?
Edited to add: What I mean is there was just a media blitz about needing donations and I know there were many emails sent from BFN and SM members. Just seems like they didn't wait to see if donations would be coming in.
I agree, plus it takes time to gather funds of the magnitude they are looking for and didn't give much advanced notice. Wow....I do not know what to say.
So, who will be looking at the targets? ALE?
That is like leaving the birdcage open w/ the cat in the house...
This can't be happening. After all the hard work, time, money, tears/pain, anticipation, etc., please do not let ALE handle the rest...
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Gerold Dompig States in 48 Hours Interview that Radar System in Full-proof. REALLY?
Gerold Dompig during his CBS 48 Hours interview stated that experiments were done with dummies being thrown over board in the water; every time they drifted back to shore. The only way this would not occur was if a boat sailed more than two miles off shore. Dompig then stated, “a trip that would have turned up on police radar and been captured on tape. Police have accounted for every boat in the water the night Natalee vanished“.
Cruz says he and his team have tossed a dummy overboard many times, but that in every case, it drifted back to shore. The only way that wouldn’t happen is if a boat sailed more than two miles offshore — a trip that would have turned up on police radar and been captured on tape.
Police have accounted for every boat in the water the night Natalee vanished.
That is quite a different story compared to the Amigoe article back in November 2005 entitled, “Radar-system not watertight”.
ORANJESTAD — The radar-system that monitors the coastline is not watertight. People still manage to enter Aruba illegally from sea. This was stated by the general commander of Warda nos Costa, Gerold Dompig. His statement challenges the words of Justice-minister Rudy Croes (MEP) who closed a lease contract for the radar equipment last year.
In June, July and August 2004 the radars were put into operation as a test. Vessels were placed out at sea to test the radar’s reach. The results were positive and the lease contract was signed till August 2007. A year later it becomes apparent that the radar’s efficiency is somewhat different in reality compared to the theoretical press presentation of Raytheon. Project coordinator Kelly confirms Dompig’s statement that high waves influence the efficiency of the radar. “The radar works well, but not during all types of weather. Heavy rainfall causes all kinds of spots on the screen, which makes it difficult to discern small boats. But, then again, no radar is full proof.”
Which could explain why in November 2005, Aruba entered into a new contract with Raytheon. However, Dompig stated in his interview that the radar of the night of May 30, 2005 would “have accounted for every boat in the water the night Natalee vanished”. That seems to be disputed by the Amigoe article.
November 28, 2005: Raytheon Canada Wins Contract for Coastal Surveillance in the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba
The system will enable the precision monitoring of marine traffic in the waters around the Dutch Caribbean. It will be used primarily for search and rescue and drug interdiction, but it will also help combat illegal
immigration.
Terma Radar Systems selected supplier of SCANTER 2001 Radar Systems for Netherlands Antilles
The prime contract was entered between Raytheon and the Royal Netherlands Navy in November 2005. The coastal surveillance system comprising eight Terma radars, two control centres and network equipment, will be delivered by mid-2006.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/28/gerold-dompig-states-in-48-hours-interview-that-radar-system-in-full-proof-really/
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Just Posted by LegallyLex at BFN:
Re: The Search for Natalee Holloway Blogspot
« Reply #859 on: Today at 12:30:54 PM »
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It is with sadness that I am reporting to everyone that the Persistence leaves Aruba tomorrow heading for home. As you are aware, the side scan sonar search is complete. There are many many targets for the ROV to look at. Sadly, this will not happen with the Persistence. The main reason is the lack of funding. This combined with the winter rough weather makes it difficult. John and the crew thank all of your for your help and many blessings and prayers you have provided. Please continue these prayers until the Persistence makes it back to port in New Iberia.
Thanks everyone! You are the best!
.
Wow, that was sort of quick?
Edited to add: What I mean is there was just a media blitz about needing donations and I know there were many emails sent from BFN and SM members. Just seems like they didn't wait to see if donations would be coming in.
I am a confused Monkey ...
Umm ... You know this really does not make any sense at all. I say this with the caveat that no one was more excited to hear that the deep water search was finally going to happen. I had heard rumblings of it long before it was ever announced and then it got delayed again until the RV Persistence arrived in Aruba. From all accounts the search lasted longer than what was most likely ever anticipated. It seems like they have been there forever doing yeoman's work searching for Natalee. That is to be commended and a huge thanks.
Now comes my questions. It was about a week ago that donations were first asked for. At no point prior to the Persistence leaving Louisiana during its voyage to Aruba or during the search were donations requested. Not even during the Date Line show was there one reference to donations or a ticker running at the bottom asking for donations, which I personally think was a mistake.
I guess my question is ... it would seem that the deep water search was never intended to be funded by donations. It was with up front money. I know this may be the business consultant in me but if that were the case, none of this makes any sense. With up front money one does not plan a search with available funds only to get 50%, 60% or 70% thru the task at hand.
Sure things happen and unforeseen variables occur. However, there are always contingency plans put in place. No one just looks up one day and sees $0.00 in their bank account, asks for donations and then 1 week later ceases actions.
I am a bit puzzled by all this. No one can count on donations to fund a search that is already going on like this. The deep water search in Aruba is not a normal missing persons search, to say the least. They just asked for donations and in some cases checks are still in the mail and have not been received, yet the search is over. So why did anyone ask for donations if they never gave the donations a chance? And the search seemed to be targeted to be over on Friday.
I guess my question is why was the search not planned knowing that there was a finite amount of money and days available? That would mean that you cant just map everything and not further investigate the hits.
Imagine building a home knowing that you have $200K to spend. Between foundation, framing, electric and plumbing you are at $195K into your budget. Ut-oh. Who would do that? Why would the most important part of investigating hits not be accounted for in the search plan, knowing there was a limit to time and $'s?
I am just a bit puzzled. Actually I am really puzzled.
I really thank them for their efforts, but I am puzzled.
I agree totally, Red. I for one mailed another check last week that has not cleared the bank yet.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.
This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO
Ditto....wonder if Dateline has an exclusive on the ...rest of the story...
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Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.
This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO
One can only hope.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #737 2/29 -
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Quote from: Red on March 01, 2008, 02:22:51 PM
Quote from: Tot on March 01, 2008, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Rob on March 01, 2008, 02:15:08 PM
The only thing I can think of is the Persistence will leave Aruba for the safety of International waters and an announcement will be made. Other than that - I have nothing.
This is more like it.I think they already have Natalee...JMO
One can only hope.
And that is precisely what I have,hope.The up and moving out doesn't fit with any of it. I think it's a coup myself against the Aruban government and it's brilliant!!!!
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