SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[2NJSons_Mom]

I was thinking about those Aru Bay videos last night.  I wonder if Shango or Simian knew about them?  I was trying to find a connection in the riddles to them...so many people think they were a message.  I am not sure anymore...never could see anything in them, but you know with the way things operate on Aruba it may have been the only way to get the message out there and still be safe.  I know Rob and Carpe have really worked hard on those...do you think maybe there is a reference to them in any of the Shango riddles that we have overlooked?

It is so long since I watched them, except the one yesterday and one this morning.  The first one was weird, I thought of kids 'raves'. The music...ugh!!! It made everyone stoned!

How come we have all these DJ's and now everyone plays in a band as well, even Freddy!

Where do all these bands play?

LOL... back to the vids...the two from yesterday seem a little weird to be made to 'sell' Aruba! Not like they could show them during 60 minutes as advertisement, so what were they made for?

That 'Tattoo' must have been one busy party boat that weekend!

Watching the Tattoo videos again made me think of the excursions we've taken on various islands, including a recent one in the Dominican Republic.  A video is always taken and sold following.  Other gimmicks are taking a photo and putting it on a bottle of rum for purchase when you return to the dock where vendors swarm you like hawks to buy their items.  Were the videos part of a late March, early April '05 night on the Tattoo?  Why was this particular video (s) uploaded to Arubay?  I guess I'm asking the same question as you, and wondering who of those filmed would buy it, let alone want it posted for the world to see? 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Yes, where is that woman that worked with Deepak and stood up for him in an interview?  Wonder how big her reward was?  I can't think of her name, but it will come back to me.  Don't think she owned it, just managed it or something like that.  If you give Deepak his own business, then you have to reward those above him in some way or else they rat you out.  The corruption is bad in Aruba that not even the locals that are innocent can fight it...too big and powerful  Next thing we will hear is Paulus is running for a position in the MEP and will be working side by side with Rudy...or... Hendrick...or...Steve.

Damn shame when I know more about the gov't of Aruba than I do my own.

Angela or Angelina something or other....

[MumInOhio]

Yes, where is that woman that worked with Deepak and stood up for him in an interview?  Wonder how big her reward was?  I can't think of her name, but it will come back to me.  Don't think she owned it, just managed it or something like that.  If you give Deepak his own business, then you have to reward those above him in some way or else they rat you out.  The corruption is bad in Aruba that not even the locals that are innocent can fight it...too big and powerful  Next thing we will hear is Paulus is running for a position in the MEP and will be working side by side with Rudy...or... Hendrick...or...Steve.

Damn shame when I know more about the gov't of Aruba than I do my own.

This one...couldn't remember and had to go and find it, I was distracted by what may have happened to her former partner...

REPPAS, ANGELINA;
Residing in RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 29 AUGUST 2005
Authority FULL

[Lala'sMom]

Yes, that is her/she..whatever.  I wonder what she's doing now?  Is Deepak HER boss now? LOL


Aru Bay videos...why is a good question...they are out there...were there for sometime before anyone found them...just a lot of questions that I am not sure about. 

[bleachedblack]

Yes, where is that woman that worked with Deepak and stood up for him in an interview?  Wonder how big her reward was?  I can't think of her name, but it will come back to me.  Don't think she owned it, just managed it or something like that.  If you give Deepak his own business, then you have to reward those above him in some way or else they rat you out.  The corruption is bad in Aruba that not even the locals that are innocent can fight it...too big and powerful  Next thing we will hear is Paulus is running for a position in the MEP and will be working side by side with Rudy...or... Hendrick...or...Steve.

Damn shame when I know more about the gov't of Aruba than I do my own.

Angelina Reppas

[vms]

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 24 NOVEMBER 2006 under serial number 35569.0 is the company with the trade name:
 
 
ABC CYBER CLUB 
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 53, ORANJESTAD OOST 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  ABC CYBER CLUB 
Date of commencement  1 DECEMBER 2006 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 5 NOVEMBER 2007 
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
PONSON, GIOVANNI REGINALDO; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 13 DECEMBER 1964 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  24 NOVEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   
PONSON-REPPAS, ANGELINA; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PROXY 
Effective  24 NOVEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
A. HET EXPOITEREN VAN DE TOEGANG TOT DE WORLD WIDE WEB EN ANDERE MULTIMEDIA NETWERKEN EN ACTIVITEITEN;

B. HET VERLENEN VAN DIENSTEN VOOR WAT BETREFT HET MAKEN VAN FOTOCOPIEEN, DRUKWERK EN FAXEN;

C. HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN GRAFISCHE, ADVERTENTIE-, RECLAMEBUREAU;

D. DE KLEINHANDEL IN KANTOORBEHOEFTEN;

E. DE KLEINHANDEL IN KLEINE ETENSWAREN, HAPJES, KOFFIE, THEE EN ALCOHOLVRIJE DRANKEN;

F. HET BEMIDDELEN BIJ HET ORGANISEREN VAN FEESTEVENEMENTEN;

G. DE KLEINHANDEL IN COMPUTERSPELLETJES. 
   

[MumInOhio]

I was thinking about those Aru Bay videos last night.  I wonder if Shango or Simian knew about them?  I was trying to find a connection in the riddles to them...so many people think they were a message.  I am not sure anymore...never could see anything in them, but you know with the way things operate on Aruba it may have been the only way to get the message out there and still be safe.  I know Rob and Carpe have really worked hard on those...do you think maybe there is a reference to them in any of the Shango riddles that we have overlooked?

It is so long since I watched them, except the one yesterday and one this morning.  The first one was weird, I thought of kids 'raves'. The music...ugh!!! It made everyone stoned!

How come we have all these DJ's and now everyone plays in a band as well, even Freddy!

Where do all these bands play?

LOL... back to the vids...the two from yesterday seem a little weird to be made to 'sell' Aruba! Not like they could show them during 60 minutes as advertisement, so what were they made for?

That 'Tattoo' must have been one busy party boat that weekend!

Watching the Tattoo videos again made me think of the excursions we've taken on various islands, including a recent one in the Dominican Republic.  A video is always taken and sold following.  Other gimmicks are taking a photo and putting it on a bottle of rum for purchase when you return to the dock where vendors swarm you like hawks to buy their items.  Were the videos part of a late March, early April '05 night on the Tattoo?  Why was this particular video (s) uploaded to Arubay?  I guess I'm asking the same question as you, and wondering who of those filmed would buy it, let alone want it posted for the world to see? 

May be that is how they sell them, everyone coming of the boat blasted! The tourists wouldn't touch them if they were sober...LOL

[MumInOhio]

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 24 NOVEMBER 2006 under serial number 35569.0 is the company with the trade name:
 
 
ABC CYBER CLUB 
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 53, ORANJESTAD OOST 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  ABC CYBER CLUB 
Date of commencement  1 DECEMBER 2006 
     
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 5 NOVEMBER 2007 
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
PONSON, GIOVANNI REGINALDO; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 13 DECEMBER 1964 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  24 NOVEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   
PONSON-REPPAS, ANGELINA; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PROXY 
Effective  24 NOVEMBER 2006 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
A. HET EXPOITEREN VAN DE TOEGANG TOT DE WORLD WIDE WEB EN ANDERE MULTIMEDIA NETWERKEN EN ACTIVITEITEN;

B. HET VERLENEN VAN DIENSTEN VOOR WAT BETREFT HET MAKEN VAN FOTOCOPIEEN, DRUKWERK EN FAXEN;

C. HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN GRAFISCHE, ADVERTENTIE-, RECLAMEBUREAU;

D. DE KLEINHANDEL IN KANTOORBEHOEFTEN;

E. DE KLEINHANDEL IN KLEINE ETENSWAREN, HAPJES, KOFFIE, THEE EN ALCOHOLVRIJE DRANKEN;

F. HET BEMIDDELEN BIJ HET ORGANISEREN VAN FEESTEVENEMENTEN;

G. DE KLEINHANDEL IN COMPUTERSPELLETJES. 
   

Wonder if they are related to the Racquet Club Ponsons....

[bleachedblack]

REPPAS, ANGELINA;
Residing in RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 29 AUGUST 2005
Authority FULL

OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Date of commencement 15 DECEMBER 2004
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 29 AUGUST 2005

OWNERS/PARTNERS
REPPAS, ANGELINA;
Residing in RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 15 DECEMBER 2004
Authority FULL

[MumInOhio]

Here's the one for Luis...Lloyd must not have liked it...he didn't stay long!

CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ

Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Date of commencement 29 AUGUST 2005

OWNERS/PARTNERS
RAMIREZ, LUIS ANTONIO;
Residing in HOOIBERG 91-B, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 2 MAY 1960
Nationality DUTCH
Position OWNER
Effective 29 AUGUST 2005
Authority FULL

REPPAS, ANGELINA;
Residing in RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 29 AUGUST 2005
Authority FULL

OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST
Legal form SOLE OWNERSHIP
Name of the company CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ
Date of commencement 15 DECEMBER 2004
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELLED ON 29 AUGUST 2005

OWNERS/PARTNERS
REPPAS, ANGELINA;
Residing in RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 15 DECEMBER 2004
Authority FULL

HICKINSON, LLOYD SELWYN;
Residing in SEROE BLANCO 75, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 14 FEBRUARY 1964
Nationality DUTCH
Position OWNER
Effective 15 DECEMBER 2004
Authority FULL

REPPAS, ANGELINA;
Residing in RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976
Nationality DUTCH
Position PROXY
Effective 15 DECEMBER 2004
Authority FULL

[bleachedblack]

oops sorry vms you are quick!

[MumInOhio]

Hi BB...What do we know about the Ponson family? Anything? I looked a little while back checking on the Racquet Club?

I wonder what stage of reconstruction they were in around that time!

Way too much activity in the following days and then there is Jorge and whatever he wanted returned! Why would they need to interview three people from the club?

[vms]

Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 5 NOVEMBER 2007 under serial number 36726.0 is the company with the trade name:
 

GPOSTECH 
 
Business address RUBY 72, NOORD 
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP 
Name of the company  GPOSTECH 
Date of commencement  5 NOVEMBER 2007 
     
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS 
 
PONSON, GIOVANNI REGINALDO; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  ARUBA on 13 DECEMBER 1964 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  OWNER 
Effective  5 NOVEMBER 2007 
Authority  FULL 
   
PONSON-REPPAS, ANGELINA; 
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  PROXY 
Effective  5 NOVEMBER 2007 
Authority  FULL 
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY 
 
1.DE KLEINHANDEL IN COMPUTERS, FORMULIEREN, KANTOOR, CASINO EN BANKBENODIGHEDEN;
2.HET REPAREREN VAN COMPUTERS. 
   
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Chamber of Commerce & Industry Aruba - J.E. Irausquin Blvd.10, Oranjestad, Aruba. 

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Hey, BB! No problem!

[2NJSons_Mom]

I was thinking about those Aru Bay videos last night.  I wonder if Shango or Simian knew about them?  I was trying to find a connection in the riddles to them...so many people think they were a message.  I am not sure anymore...never could see anything in them, but you know with the way things operate on Aruba it may have been the only way to get the message out there and still be safe.  I know Rob and Carpe have really worked hard on those...do you think maybe there is a reference to them in any of the Shango riddles that we have overlooked?

It is so long since I watched them, except the one yesterday and one this morning.  The first one was weird, I thought of kids 'raves'. The music...ugh!!! It made everyone stoned!

How come we have all these DJ's and now everyone plays in a band as well, even Freddy!

Where do all these bands play?

LOL... back to the vids...the two from yesterday seem a little weird to be made to 'sell' Aruba! Not like they could show them during 60 minutes as advertisement, so what were they made for?

That 'Tattoo' must have been one busy party boat that weekend!

Watching the Tattoo videos again made me think of the excursions we've taken on various islands, including a recent one in the Dominican Republic.  A video is always taken and sold following.  Other gimmicks are taking a photo and putting it on a bottle of rum for purchase when you return to the dock where vendors swarm you like hawks to buy their items.  Were the videos part of a late March, early April '05 night on the Tattoo?  Why was this particular video (s) uploaded to Arubay?  I guess I'm asking the same question as you, and wondering who of those filmed would buy it, let alone want it posted for the world to see? 

May be that is how they sell them, everyone coming of the boat blasted! The tourists wouldn't touch them if they were sober...LOL

Yes, and for sure, no one knows what the video looks like when the do purchase it, sober or otherwise.  The music, like Klaas pointed out, was weird on the arubay clips.  Wonder what they were really dancing to?  Maybe that's why the music was changed...dunno....highly doubtful any copyright 'laws' were breached.

Oh, and if I disappear, it's because I started cleaning a closet, which was a mistake.  Ugh....has nothing to do with anyone here.   

[bleachedblack]

...seems in this interview with Angelina, strange she can be so sure that Deepak does not know how Joran got home. It makes me think with more certainty that Joran and Natalee were dropped off somewhere by the K's.

++++++++++++

Angelina Reppas: (Manager of Cyberzone Cafe in Aruba) He was working that night. Sunday night. And he never goes out on a Sunday night. Deepak was supposed to go home. His brother has to pick him up at 11:00. But, I think Joran called him. "Ok, you know, I'm here with girls from the states in Carlos N Charlies. You want to come to? I need a ride."

And that's how he... he went there. Deepak wanted to leave with... with Satish, and then Joran asked if Natalee was going to come. And then they both got into the car, and she wanted to drive. She just wanted to drive on the beach. And she was drunk. And there are girls, like, screaming, "Get out of the car, because"... friends from her. They were like, "Get out of the car." She's like, "No, no. I want to stay. I want to drive. Just go to the hotel. I will be back later." That's it. And Deepak told the girls, like, "Get her out, because she's drunk. Why don't you take your friend with you?""No, I didn't" ...she didn't want to. That's what he said. And then they just drove around. They dropped her off at the Marriott. They went home.

Jamie Skeeters: How did Joran get home?

Angelina Reppas: Yeah, pppt. He said...

Jamie Skeeters: ....

Angelina Reppas: Walk.

Jamie Skeeters: What did he tell Deepak?

Angelina Reppas: He told them he was going to walk.

Jamie Skeeters: How did he get... really get home?

Angelina Reppas: That Deepak doesn't know. 

http://tinyurl.com/5ga8px

[bleachedblack]

Hi BB...What do we know about the Ponson family? Anything? I looked a little while back checking on the Racquet Club?

I wonder what stage of reconstruction they were in around that time!

Way too much activity in the following days and then there is Jorge and whatever he wanted returned! Why would they need to interview three people from the club?

Hey Mum don't know much about Ponson. Shall we look around?

[MumInOhio]

...seems in this interview with Angelina, strange she can be so sure that Deepak does not know how Joran got home. It makes me think with more certainty that Joran and Natalee were dropped off somewhere by the K's.

++++++++++++

Angelina Reppas: (Manager of Cyberzone Cafe in Aruba) He was working that night. Sunday night. And he never goes out on a Sunday night. Deepak was supposed to go home. His brother has to pick him up at 11:00. But, I think Joran called him. "Ok, you know, I'm here with girls from the states in Carlos N Charlies. You want to come to? I need a ride."

And that's how he... he went there. Deepak wanted to leave with... with Satish, and then Joran asked if Natalee was going to come. And then they both got into the car, and she wanted to drive. She just wanted to drive on the beach. And she was drunk. And there are girls, like, screaming, "Get out of the car, because"... friends from her. They were like, "Get out of the car." She's like, "No, no. I want to stay. I want to drive. Just go to the hotel. I will be back later." That's it. And Deepak told the girls, like, "Get her out, because she's drunk. Why don't you take your friend with you?""No, I didn't" ...she didn't want to. That's what he said. And then they just drove around. They dropped her off at the Marriott. They went home.

Jamie Skeeters: How did Joran get home?

Angelina Reppas: Yeah, pppt. He said...

Jamie Skeeters: ....

Angelina Reppas: Walk.

Jamie Skeeters: What did he tell Deepak?

Angelina Reppas: He told them he was going to walk.

Jamie Skeeters: How did he get... really get home?

Angelina Reppas: That Deepak doesn't know. 




http://tinyurl.com/5ga8px

Cafe closed at 10PM that night. Satish said so. The sign on the door said so...why does everyone want it to close at 11 that night?

And why did she hesitate before saying Satish..in blue...she almost slipped...

[MumInOhio]

Hi BB...What do we know about the Ponson family? Anything? I looked a little while back checking on the Racquet Club?

I wonder what stage of reconstruction they were in around that time!

Way too much activity in the following days and then there is Jorge and whatever he wanted returned! Why would they need to interview three people from the club?

Hey Mum don't know much about Ponson. Shall we look around?

BB...here is the 2005 records...I'm not sure except that I am really suspicious of all the activity around there and then those posts I saw that asked if Freddy lived there! There are villas there, but have only got as far as the ones built in Nov. of 2005 The Racquet Club was completely remodelled. and Joran and Guido IIRC were both interns. May be another dead end...Oh and there is Jorge and his Request 41...

ARUBA RACQUET CLUB N.V.
Business address ROOI SANTO 21, NOORD
Legal form LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company ARUBA RACQUET CLUB N.V.
Statutory seat ARUBA
Date of incorporation 11 JULY 1991
Last amendment in the articles 16 NOVEMBER 2001
Authorized capital ARUBAN FLORINS 1,000,000.00
Issued capital ARUBAN FLORINS 965,000.00
Paid up capital ARUBAN FLORINS 965,000.00
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:

PONSON-JANSEN, IRENE MAE;
Residing in MEIVELD 38, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 23 MAY 1940
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR B
Effective 26 AUGUST 1998
Authority RESTRICTED

HOSE, HUMPHREY HUBERT;
Residing in BONTEMANTELSTRAAT 16, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 4 MAY 1947
Nationality DUTCH
Position SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR
Effective 26 AUGUST 1998

PONSON, ERIC CARL (JR);
Residing in MAHUMA 70, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 16 JULY 1963
Nationality DUTCH
Position SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR B
Effective 26 AUGUST 1998
Authority RESTRICTED

PONSON, KENNETH LIONEL;
Residing in SALINA CERCA 13-E, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in ARUBA on 17 SEPTEMBER 1966
Nationality DUTCH
Position MANAGING DIRECTOR A
Effective 26 AUGUST 1998
Authority RESTRICTED

OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY

A. HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN TENNISBAAN-COMPLEX, ANNEX BIJBEHORENDE SPORTFACILITEITEN;
B. HET IN VERBAND MET HET VORENSTAANDE EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN KOFFIEHUIS-RESTAURANT.

[MumInOhio]

I am not sure if we want the tennis Sanchez or this Sanches...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2560
From Caps

Last Name:Porras
First Name:Jorge A   
Date of Birth:12/30/1982
Place of Birth:Caracas, Venezuela
Current Address:Rondweg 21, Aruba

The Mother is living at the same Address, there is no info on the Father

Last name:Porras Rodriguez,
Born: Sanchez
First Name: Josefa O   
Date Of Birth: 1/9/1945,
Current Address: Rondweg 21, Aruba

The problem with the name is the Sanchez.

Porros as a last name exist

Sanchez as a Lastname with Jorge as First name but no Porros --NONE

This name must have been made up by someone to protect something.

will check one more datamine.
+++++

[MumInOhio]

Here is where we started on Sanches/Sanchez...he was questioned the same day as two others from the Club.

Responsive to Request 41
+ Name: Jorge Porras Sanches
Date: 21 June 2005 / 14:20
Pages: 2
Writer/Initiator: Juan Boezem / Johny Erasmus
Description: witness statement

Name: Jorge Porras Sanches
Name/Title: Reply on request to return suspects belongings
Date: 20 October 2005
Pa.gcs: 1
Writer/Initiator: J.M.A.M. Ponsioen