Here are the most recent transcripts discussing the Jodi Arias case, Thursday, June 13, 2013. Dr. Drew's transcript covered several cases, including Jodi Arias, and I've snipped that section for reading. Also, I see Dr. Drew is going to interview the jury foreman Will Zervakos tonight (Monday), in case someone wants to watch. I'll post the transcript links in the morning when they're up.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/13/ijvm.01.htmlJANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Prosecution Will Go Forward with New Jodi Arias Punishment Phase; Jodi`s Childhood Friend Speaks Out
Aired June 13, 2013 - 19:00 ET
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/13/ng.01.htmlNANCY GRACE
Jodi`s Defense Claiming Insanity
Aired June 13, 2013 - 20:00:00 ET(There are several topics covered by Dr. Drew on this date. I've snipped the section concerning
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/13/ddhln.01.htmlDR. DREW
Trust Fund Kid on Trial; What`s At Stake In Trial?
Aired June 13, 2013 - 21:00 ET Plus, a possible delay in the Jodi Arias retrial. Why prolong the pain for Travis Alexander`s devastated siblings?
PINSKY: Back with my co-host, Jenny Hutt and Mark Eiglarsh, Lauren Lake, Cheryl Arutt, Loni Coombs are all still with me.
Here`s what we`re going to look at. Jury foreman, Will Zervakos. He has been scapegoated for voting against the death penalty. Here`s what he told KTVK`s Mike Watkiss about the threats he is receiving.(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course, I took some seriously, but I didn`t really get anything that would make me, you know, make me pause or felt like my family was in danger. I just feel like people quite honestly are stupid. Just calling me a dirty old man. People that make stupid remarks like that, I mean, it`s just not worth wasting time with.
No, we didn`t check them out. To check them out would be, OK, all right. They didn`t want to do it. OK, whatever. That would have been chickening out.
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PINSKY: And on -- a reminder on Monday, he will join me in a primetime exclusive interview. He wants to come clean about all this and talk about these threats he`s getting. Going out right now first to Shanna Hogan, investigative reporter and author of the upcoming Jodi Arias book, "Picture Perfect." Shanna, you`ve got some breaking news. Go ahead.SHANNA HOGAN, JOURNALIST: Yes, Dr. Drew. Huge news just today. The defense team has filed a motion to continue, meaning they are waiting, they want the penalty phase of the trial to start in January 2014, which is a significant delay from the current July 18th trial date that it`s supposed to start on.
PINSKY: Now, Jodi`s friend, Patty, was supposed to testify during the mitigation phase on Jodi`s behalf but became frightened by all the same stuff that the foreman is getting. Listen to what she told Jane Velez- Mitchell just a short time ago.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They posted my address, my home address with a description of what my house looks like with a map. They`re hacking into my Facebook, stealing pictures of me and my daughter. I`m worried that, you know, this is all going to start over again. And I`m just now feeling better about my safety, and you know, just my mental health.
I never expected this, you know? I don`t know. I mean -- you could never tell. She was such a good person. And knowing that I shared so many good memories with her. We`ve all lost somebody in this horrible situation.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: All right. I want to get everyone`s reaction to this. I`m going to start with Lauren Lake. Go ahead.
LAUREN LAKE, ATTORNEY: It hurts me. And, I`m going to say this, Dr. Drew. I am getting so sick and tired of this new culture of aggression that we`re exhibiting in this country where when someone is called on to tell their truth, that if it`s not the truth you want to hear, you get to bully them and somehow threaten their lives, make them uncomfortable. It`s just not right.
And as a person, really, that makes a living giving opinions that are not always popular, you know, I can take the heat, but everyone can`t. And it`s truly affecting our justice system. People who have the right to come in and tell their truth under oath, to maybe a friend that they have, you know, we have to stop this.
I mean, I almost came to tears when she started tearing up, because that was her friend. We may hate her, but that`s her friend and she has a truth to tell and she`s entitled to tell it.
PINSKY: Loni.
LONI COOMBS, ATTORNEY: You know, Dr. Drew, I think this is so important. I`m so glad you`re talking about this. I feel extremely passionate about this. I dedicated 18 years of my life putting the most dangerous people away behind bars. And it`s an important part of our society, the criminal justice system which keeps us from disintegrating into chaos.
But what we saw in this trial, we`ve been seeing a little bit more and more over the years, is extremely frightening, where the public is becoming so invested that they`re starting to attack people who are not to blame. They didn`t commit the crime. They`re coming in and they`re testifying as experts. They`re testifying as witnesses.
They`re friends of the victim -- or the defendants. They are not the ones to blame. And when we attack them, at the least it`s bullying or emotional -- you know, infliction of emotional distress. At worst, it becomes vigilantism and it really threatens the core of the integrity of our justice system where people are going to become frightened for their own lives if they participate in this justice system.
And I`ll tell you, we`ve got a real problem on our hands if we don`t step back and we all need to be reminding people and encouraging people, you can be passionate about it, but we need to have these boundaries. We need to respect people that are participating and doing the right thing, jurors, witnesses. We need these people to make the justice system work, and we can`t be attacking them like this.
PINSKY: By the way, how about just attacking people for expressing their First Amendment privilege? I`m just saying. But Jenny, go ahead. And by the way, I want -- hang on, before you talk, I want to ask the control room. You know what I like to do, I want to finish going to everybody on the panel.
If you wouldn`t mind, I`d like to replay the tape, because this really struck a chord with all of us. If we could replay Patty`s tape after we`ve gone around -- Jenny, Mark, and Cheryl. Then, jenny, go ahead.
HUTT: I just feel like it`s a little bit of a witch hunt in a way.
PINSKY: Of course, it`s the same thing. I`ve been thinking of the guillotine. It`s revolutionary France. That`s what happened there.
HUTT: Right. We don`t have access to Jodi, direct access, but we sure do have direct access to this woman who`s done nothing wrong other than she wants to maybe talk about someone who used to be her friend and this happened and it`s awful. So, I don`t like that mentality. It`s bullying and these people need to be spanked.
PINSKY: Mark?
MARK EIGLARSH, SPEAKTOMARK.COM: The only thing I can add to what was so eloquently stated by your other guests is the following. Putting aside Jodi Arias for one second, if it`s one of your loved ones, and it can be, because it has been. When I`ve defended people in the system for close 20 years now, and what happens is you have a witness who can exonerate your loved one, but they don`t want to come to court. They don`t want to come forward, because either the mob mentality or because they`re just so fearful of what`s going to happen when they get to court. Think about it that way and maybe you say, you know what, you`re right, this shouldn`t happen anymore.
PINSKY: Cheryl, I`m saying that social media one of the consequences, it may be a great thing, but one of the consequences, the application of mob.
CHERYL ARUTT, PSY.D., @CHERYLARUTT: Absolutely. And the loss of privacy. People feel like -- they feel so incredibly violated. It was so intrusive for Patty to have her Facebook pictures, her child put out there. She was not probably just concerned about herself but also concerned about her child. And we need to make sure that people feel like they can come forward and they can speak.
And if people are too intimidated to be able to speak their truth, this whole system isn`t going to work. All the guests spoke so beautifully about this, but I just want to remind everybody. You`re entitled to whatever feelings you have. But the system should work. And if somebody says, this is my best friend and I only saw the greatest person on Earth, and then the jury looks at all of the evidence, it will still work.
They`ll still see all these other things. We shouldn`t be so threatened by hearing multiple points of view.
PINSKY: We`re not saying Patty was accurate in her perceptions of Jodi Arias. We`re, in fact, saying she lost a fantasy version of what Jodi was. She can`t believe that Jodi was capable of murder. Guess what? She was. You had a misperception, but she`s still entitled to safely testify in court. Let`s replay that tape.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They posted my address, my home address with a description of what my house looks like with a map. They`re hacking into my Facebook, stealing pictures of me and my daughter. I`m worried that, you know, this is all going to start over again. And I`m just now feeling better about my safety, and you know, just my mental health.
I never expected this, you know? I don`t know. I mean -- you could never tell. She was such a good person. And knowing that I shared so many good memories with her. We`ve all lost somebody in this horrible situation.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: I want to say thank you to Jane Velez-Mitchell for allowing us to air that interview and congratulations for an excellent, excellent interview.