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Dayhiker
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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May 28, 2008, 10:43:01 PM »
Quote from: caesu on May 28, 2008, 09:59:29 PM
that's good news that The Telegraaf is giving it attention again.
this paper is very much against the current dutch government.
quite frankly, they want to bring the government down - and rightly so IMO. new elections.
i hope also the crisis at the Aruban OM and with the PG will be covered in the coming days.
this crisis is getting bigger. and Rudy Croes has a deadline 1st July to put a new 'temporary' PG in place.
also new Public Prosecutors have to be appointed.
but the Oduber government doesn't want to pay them too much.
Oduber doesn't want anyone on the island to earn higher wages than he does.
that's the core if the conflict with Croes Fernandez-Pedra.
Oduber also tried to lower the wages of public utility company directors.
because they earn much more than he does.
i don't know it these companies are privatized or if they are state owned.
i listened to Radio Netherlands / Caribiana report.
here are some quotes i posted earlier in the day:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2856.msg384583#msg384583
http://antilliaans.caribiana.nl/aruba/car20080528_vervangerpg
i wish you could hear it because it is encouraging.
interview with two dutch MP's. one opposition (Alexander Pechtold D66, former Kingdom affairs secretary), one government (Sybrand van Haersma-Buma, CDA < Balkenende party).
they both have grave concerns for the state of the justice system / OM on Aruba.
and the way Rudy Croes is dealing with it, and ignoring the judge rulings.
also Natalee Holloway is mentioned several times.
especially Pechtold sounded very well informed.
http://download.omroep.nl/rnw/smac/cms/car_pechtoldenbuma_20080528_44_1kHz.mp3
Alexander Pechtold
http://pechtold.nl/reactie.html
Sybrand van Haersma-Buma
http://haersma.cda.nl/contact.aspx
contact The Telegraaf
http://www.telegraaf.nl/contact/reageer/?redactie=1
this weekly opinion magazine is also anti-government:
http://www.elsevier.nl/magazine/contact/asp/index.html
Caesu, great update and I am glad they are bringing Natalee's case up. This injustice needs to stick in the Dutch craw as deeply as our own. The Dutch on Aruba have made a mockery out of the system, especially the judges who are the last resort to uphold the law. When those bastards turn crooked it's a good indication the whole place has gone to shit.
I live for the day they string Bob Wit and Rick Smid up by their balls.
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Joran's a rapist - the Kalpoes suck - F00K Aruba
Carpe - that was t00 funny....
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He was hit with such overkill. There was a lot of anger there.
There was no way, to me, that it was "business as usual" drug dealings.
WAY TOO MUCH OVERKILL.
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Quote from: carpe noctem on May 28, 2008, 10:44:58 PM
He was hit with such overkill. There was a lot of anger there.
There was no way, to me, that it was "business as usual" drug dealings.
WAY TOO MUCH OVERKILL.
Definitely a message.
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Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
Joran's a rapist - the Kalpoes suck - F00K Aruba
Carpe - that was t00 funny....
Thanks, LOL. I am going to make it an ongoing theme, to keep those darn Arubans
on pins and needles. The psychological effect alone, it is driving them wacko! (short trip)
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"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."Thomas Jeff
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Quote from: Buckeye on May 28, 2008, 10:01:07 PM
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Quote from: carpe noctem on May 28, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
Joran's a rapist - the Kalpoes suck - F00K Aruba
Carpe - that was t00 funny....
Thanks, LOL. I am going to make it an ongoing theme, to keep those darn Arubans
on pins and needles. The psychological effect alone, it is
driving them wacko! (short trip)
Or as we said eons ago,
"That's a putt, not a drive ... "
Yuk Yuk
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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Quote from: Buckeye on May 28, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on May 28, 2008, 10:44:58 PM
He was hit with such overkill. There was a lot of anger there.
There was no way, to me, that it was "business as usual" drug dealings.
WAY TOO MUCH OVERKILL.
Definitely a message.
I agree, if they'd have just wanted him dead they'd have shot his ass and walked away.
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Quote from: carpe noctem on May 28, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
Joran's a rapist - the Kalpoes suck - F00K Aruba
Carpe - that was t00 funny....
Thanks, LOL. I am going to make it an ongoing theme, to keep those darn Arubans
on pins and needles. The psychological effect alone, it is driving them wacko! (short trip)
did you just say Kalpoes?
roflmao
you really crack me up...
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Then they said he had drugs in him, that is why they opened him up!!!
However, when did the mules start inserting it in their "johnsons" ???
Ya know? It just doesn't add up.
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Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on May 28, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
Joran's a rapist - the Kalpoes suck - F00K Aruba
Carpe - that was t00 funny....
Thanks, LOL. I am going to make it an ongoing theme, to keep those darn Arubans
on pins and needles. The psychological effect alone, it is driving them wacko! (short trip)
did you just say Kalpoes?
roflmao
you really crack me up...
LOL! Glad you liked it.
I have to look up another TF #
and haunt somebody tomorrow.
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Quote from: ******* on May 28, 2008, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: Buckeye on May 28, 2008, 10:01:07 PM
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Well done Ofir!!!!!!!!
Spread the word to Canada and beyond!
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This is from Page 1 of the Murder & Crime thread; there are some pictures (none graphic), and the obit, on Page 2.
I thought I would bring it here because someone wondered if "crucified" was the word used ... and also because
Murder
was very much on some folks minds (besides ours).
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Amigoe June 8 2006 article re. Pitbull:
ARUBA — Dinesh ‘Pitbull’ Djoegan had died of overdoses cocaine. At this moment, the Public Prosecutor (OM) does not have evidence that the 25-year old man that was found dead in the vicinity of the Guadirikiri cave on April 5th was murdered. Four suspects have been arrested and the examining magistrate has prolonged the custody of one of them with 8 days.
On Tuesday, Pitbull’s widow and her mother had talked with the district attorney, who leads the investigation on the death of Djoegan. The OM does not comment on the contents of this conversation. All they said was that in order to determine the cause of death, they had to send tests to the Netherlands. The family was informed that Pitbull was not murdered, but had an amount of cocaine in his body.
There is a possibility that he was forced to take the drug.
The OM is also investigating the relation between the cause of death and the fact that Djoegan was found
burned and crucified
.
Last weekend, the police arrested two men and two women in connection with this case. One of them, M.L. was taken before the examining magistrate on Tuesday afternoon. He was already in prison for illegal possession of firearms and cocaine balls.
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Carpe try calling Bon Dia....
ask for muzzlehoffer.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #754 5/28 -
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Quote from: carpe noctem on May 28, 2008, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
Joran's a rapist - the Kalpoes suck - F00K Aruba
Carpe - that was t00 funny....
Thanks, LOL. I am going to make it an ongoing theme, to keep those darn Arubans
on pins and needles. The psychological effect alone, it is driving them wacko! (short trip)
Carpe, you are a one man Aruba wrecking ball! Kickem, kickem, kickem til they wake up!
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Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 11:03:57 PM
Carpe try calling Bon Dia....
ask for muzzlehoffer.
Vice president of the Bigassed Aruba Women's Journalist Club.
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Quote from: Dayhiker on May 28, 2008, 11:06:36 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 28, 2008, 11:03:57 PM
Carpe try calling Bon Dia....
ask for muzzlehoffer.
Vice president of the Bigassed Aruba Women's Journalist Club.
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Quote from: Buckeye on May 28, 2008, 09:43:25 PM
Still looking for some Pitbull stuff. Found this post from CancunMole at RU regarding the "immigration" document. Thought SilverFox might like it.:
DiamondDot wrote:
I disagree.
We now have a document that completely blows Beth out of the water. What the hell was she doing for almost 4 hours, before Jug arrived?
Couldn't find a police station in all that time?
CancunMole Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:42 am
Document? I can buy that there may be a system that may be able to... account for the time that one's passport is SWIPED as theY enter ARuba BUT, other than the STUff that could be sucked off one's PaSSaPORtE.. ALL the rest, VAcation, E-Mail, Where staying, yadA, Yada, comes from a hand written form THAT would HAVE to be INPUT bu someone. ERGO, if some must be INput, then it is Possible that OTHER info may 2 be ADJUSted by MAnuel.......
Another piece of
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GGood post, yes -- but it needed an ever so slight needed edit
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All were missing is "robots" and we could have "stag night" at SM!!
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All were missing is "robots" and we could have "stag night" at SM!!
It's kegger night on the Monkeyboard!
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