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Topic: Sandra Cantu #2 4/09/09 - 4/15/09 (Read 442235 times)
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Tams on April 11, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
Hi all - my 1st post here!
So much information and many many good thoughts, ideas, theories from everyone . . . it is so helpful to have so many different minds & perspectives hashing all of this through - like a round table discussion of sorts.
Mr. Sheneman seems highly professional to me; I find myself feeling very respectful of him as he carefully and purposefully speaks. It would seem to me that he cannot tell the media everything yet, as there is still more police work to do.
WELCOME TAMS I believe they are holding back on a lot more info as well, and they are being very careful.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 11, 2009, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 11, 2009, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 11, 2009, 02:27:47 PM
I am going out on a limb. It could be that I have been involved in the Natalee Holloway case way too long.
I am suspicious ... when I consider that there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against Melissa in regards to the drugging incident and ... when I consider there was no legal action by Tracy law enforcement against a Karate instructor in regards to inappropriately kissing a six year old Sandra Cantu on the lips.
Now Melissa Huckaby is being detained as the
only
suspect and ... unlike the Casey Anthony case ... the details are not being released to the public.
As an appeasement those who are demanding justice for Sandra Cantu ... could it be that there is a plan within law enforcement that implication will stop and end with Melissa Huckaby and ... the other
persons of interest
connected to Melissa and the church will become non-issues?
Could it be that a plea deal by law enforcement with Melissa Huckaby for her confession implies the consequences of her actions will encompasses an insanity defence?
In otherword ... could a child pornography ring in Tracy be very far reaching in regards to who is involved?
Janet
Yes, could very well be, because this is not adding up. The kissing incident, and the questioning of Melissa about drugging a seven year old, was it swept under the rug?
I believe that Melissa Huckaby unintentionally caused Sandra Cantu's demise through drugging but ... the drugging is not the whole picture. I suspect that the whole picture involves those
persons of interest
who were connected to Melissa and the church.
Janet
If there's child porn and/or ritual abuse going on, this group of sickos could be very tight-knit indeed. Cult-like, even.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Welcome to Scared Monkeys
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: pink angel on April 11, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 11, 2009, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 11, 2009, 02:49:13 PM
Sheneman said:
1. There is NO reason to believe Sandra Cantu's body is in that luggage (4/6/09)
2. I don't know where the rumors are coming from, there is no arrest immenant (4/10/09pm) Melissa arrested a few hours late.
3. Melissa Huckaby is arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Sandra - she acted alone - no other arrests coming. (4/11/09)
I like Sheneman but sometimes he doesn't tell us what is really going on, likely due to the ongoing investigation. I will be really surprised if this doesn't involve other people.
Sheneman appeared to be giving both Melissa and Clover Road Baptist Church credibility when he stated at least three times that Melissa was a Sunday School teacher.
Klaas ... we will have to agree to disagree ... I
DO NOT
like Sheneman. I contend his press conferences only reveal a watered-down version of what has already been released to the media and ... nothing new.
Janet
Hiya Miss Janet,
Nice to see you and ducky!
I like the Sgt.
I think he has a hard job and doing the best he can do under the circumstances.
He's torn between protecting the investigation so Sandra Cantu and her family can get justice once this goes to trial and giving the community answers that they desperately want and deserve.
He's a member of that community, his children goes to Sandra's and her sister's school. He feels their pain and he is trying to do his best to answer what questions he can.
jmo
hugs to you and ducky
Hi pink angel
Considering the allegations that his position dictates he is privy to ... I can bet that Sheneman kids were never have been placed in Melissa Huckaby's Sunday School class or ... Frank Wohler's Karate class. However ... there are unsuspecting parents out there who are entrusting their precious children to these two pedators. Children are being put at risk.
If only Sandra Cantu's mother had been made aware that Melissa Huckaby had been questioned in a drugging incident that involved a child. If only ...
Something is not right in Tracy.
Janet
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Welcome Tams!
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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I think it would be highly irresponsible of the Police Dept there to warn the porn ring and pedo's that they are investigating them and are coming after them. IMO they are already shaken up and are probably packing up and going underground.
Also, perhaps the reason that they are NOT saying that Melissa confessed is because she did (or they think she will in the near future)...and named others and they don't want them to be alerted and take off.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Tams on April 11, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
Hi all - my 1st post here!
So much information and many many good thoughts, ideas, theories from everyone . . . it is so helpful to have so many different minds & perspectives hashing all of this through - like a round table discussion of sorts.
Mr. Sheneman seems highly professional to me; I find myself feeling very respectful of him as he carefully and purposefully speaks. It would seem to me that he cannot tell the media everything yet, as there is still more police work to do.
I agree Tams, and welcome!!
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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April 11, 2009, 03:44:17 PM »
A comment on the KCRA site...
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http://www.kcra.com/news/19155177/detail.html
Other local news sources have published that Huckaby's
keys and cell phone were found in the suitcase
with Sandra Cantu. At the time Sandra became missing, Huckaby did go back inside (preacher's wife was home) to grab spare keys and took off in her SUV. Very possible soil samples on her tires and tire tracks at pond matched hers but that was not officially announced. The law enforcement did spend quite some time investigating Huckaby and her family's cars.
Apr. 11, 2009 10:37am PDT | from Augie
Wonder if there were photos on that phone thus the need to get rid of it?
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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April 11, 2009, 03:45:12 PM »
Quote from: BluesyGram on April 11, 2009, 03:40:15 PM
I think it would be highly irresponsible of the Police Dept there to warn the porn ring and pedo's that they are investigating them and are coming after them. IMO they are already shaken up and are probably packing up and going underground.
Also, perhaps the reason that they are NOT saying that Melissa confessed is because she did (or they think she will in the near future)...and named others and they don't want them to be alerted and take off.
If she's involved in some underground porn or sex ring, just her arrest alone - confession or no confession - would be enough to scare the bejeebers out of the other members. She looks a bit too low-life to be associated with so-called higher-up people in positions of responsibility but maybe there's more than one group of sickos in that area.
I think the police are being very tight with the info so no defense lawyer can say they broke the rules or poisoned the jury pool and all that. And they just might have hopes of catching more perps.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Melissa Huckaby admitted publically to:
1) Owning the suitcase in which Sandra's body was found.
2) Seeing Sandra at the time she went missing (last known person to see her alive).
3) Going to the church during the time Sandra went missing.
4) Admitting she has frequented the dump site where Sandra's body was found in HER suitcase.
5) Having a note which details the exact location of Sandra's body.
6) Having no alibi at the time Sandra went missing unless she was seen at the church by someone else.
7.) Being questioned previously in regards to the drugging of another child.
(credit to Seriously Searching from over yonder for this list)
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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April 11, 2009, 03:47:33 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on April 11, 2009, 03:44:17 PM
A comment on the KCRA site...
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http://www.kcra.com/news/19155177/detail.html
Other local news sources have published that Huckaby's
keys and cell phone were found in the suitcase
with Sandra Cantu. At the time Sandra became missing, Huckaby did go back inside (preacher's wife was home) to grab spare keys and took off in her SUV. Very possible soil samples on her tires and tire tracks at pond matched hers but that was not officially announced. The law enforcement did spend quite some time investigating Huckaby and her family's cars.
Apr. 11, 2009 10:37am PDT | from Augie
Wonder if there were photos on that phone thus the need to get rid of it?
Not that I want you to think I'm plotting the perfect murder here but what criminal is stupid enough to put their keys and cellphone (two very identifying items) with their murder victim? Either they want to be caught or somebody is setting them up to get caught.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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I was wondering the same thing OBG.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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April 11, 2009, 03:55:41 PM »
Quote from: oldiebutgoodie on April 11, 2009, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 11, 2009, 03:44:17 PM
A comment on the KCRA site...
Quote
http://www.kcra.com/news/19155177/detail.html
Other local news sources have published that Huckaby's
keys and cell phone were found in the suitcase
with Sandra Cantu. At the time Sandra became missing, Huckaby did go back inside (preacher's wife was home) to grab spare keys and took off in her SUV. Very possible soil samples on her tires and tire tracks at pond matched hers but that was not officially announced. The law enforcement did spend quite some time investigating Huckaby and her family's cars.
Apr. 11, 2009 10:37am PDT | from Augie
Wonder if there were photos on that phone thus the need to get rid of it?
Not that I want you to think I'm plotting the perfect murder here but what criminal is stupid enough to put their keys and cellphone (two very identifying items) with their murder victim? Either they want to be caught or somebody is setting them up to get caught.
With all she said to the press, she is pretty stupid or crazy. She said to the press that she lost her cell phone and keys, then grandma called and said she found her keys.(I assume a lie) My guess is that in her haste she threw the phone and keys in the suitcase, and forgot to take them out, if in fact they did find them in the suitcase. She did say she used the spare keys.
I do not believe she was killed in the trailer, if the grandma or grandparents were there. I have heard they were not there, and neither was her daughter. Something went on at the church, that is why it was searched again, I believe. I believe that is the crime scene.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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We might add..
Interjected herself into the investigation.
Having prior criminal record.
And add whatever that hospitalization thing was about.
Also, wonder what time that bed or other evidence was removed from the church, and if the evidence was taken as a result of her confession (probably was). That evidence would be needed to corroborate her confession.
Also, it was very telling that the monkeys picked up the grandmother's statement as to the "abused" and murdered. She knows something for sure.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 11, 2009, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: pink angel on April 11, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 11, 2009, 03:09:01 PM
Quote from: klaasend on April 11, 2009, 02:49:13 PM
Sheneman said:
1. There is NO reason to believe Sandra Cantu's body is in that luggage (4/6/09)
2. I don't know where the rumors are coming from, there is no arrest immenant (4/10/09pm) Melissa arrested a few hours late.
3. Melissa Huckaby is arrested for the kidnapping and murder of Sandra - she acted alone - no other arrests coming. (4/11/09)
I like Sheneman but sometimes he doesn't tell us what is really going on, likely due to the ongoing investigation. I will be really surprised if this doesn't involve other people.
Sheneman appeared to be giving both Melissa and Clover Road Baptist Church credibility when he stated at least three times that Melissa was a Sunday School teacher.
Klaas ... we will have to agree to disagree ... I
DO NOT
like Sheneman. I contend his press conferences only reveal a watered-down version of what has already been released to the media and ... nothing new.
Janet
Hiya Miss Janet,
Nice to see you and ducky!
I like the Sgt.
I think he has a hard job and doing the best he can do under the circumstances.
He's torn between protecting the investigation so Sandra Cantu and her family can get justice once this goes to trial and giving the community answers that they desperately want and deserve.
He's a member of that community, his children goes to Sandra's and her sister's school. He feels their pain and he is trying to do his best to answer what questions he can.
jmo
hugs to you and ducky
Hi pink angel
Considering the allegations that his position dictates he is privy to ... I can bet that Sheneman kids were never have been placed in Melissa Huckaby's Sunday School class or ... Frank Wohler's Karate class. However ... there are unsuspecting parents out there who are entrusting their precious children to these two pedators. Children are being put at risk.
If only Sandra Cantu's mother had been made aware that Melissa Huckaby had been questioned in a drugging incident that involved a child. If only ...
Something is not right in Tracy.
Janet
I totally agree with you Janet. It's scary.
The police can't go announcing to the public everyone they question or suspect of crimes. That pesky constitution can be a pain.
The police did investigate the kissing incident. They must have decided not to charge him for whatever reason.(I would have!)
If I was Sandra's parents, I sure would have let every parent in that park know about it, regardless.
They investigated the child being drugged and just because Melissa was questioned, doesn't mean she was guilty. (although I am sure she was) Why she wasn't charged? I don't know.
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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What a dumb broad!!
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Quote from: flossy on April 11, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
What a dumb broad!!
Melissa Huckaby, I mean!
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: klaasend on April 11, 2009, 03:44:17 PM
A comment on the KCRA site...
Quote
http://www.kcra.com/news/19155177/detail.html
Other local news sources have published that Huckaby's
keys and cell phone were found in the suitcase
with Sandra Cantu. At the time Sandra became missing, Huckaby did go back inside (preacher's wife was home) to grab spare keys and took off in her SUV. Very possible soil samples on her tires and tire tracks at pond matched hers but that was not officially announced. The law enforcement did spend quite some time investigating Huckaby and her family's cars.
Apr. 11, 2009 10:37am PDT | from Augie
Wonder if there were photos on that phone thus the need to get rid of it?
Wow, thanks for that link, I bet there are
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Re: Sandra Cantu, 8, missing 3/27/09 - Tracy, CA (Body Found) #2
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Quote from: flossy on April 11, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
What a dumb broad!!
What a dumb monster!
Quote from: BluesyGram on April 11, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
We might add..
Interjected herself into the investigation.
Having prior criminal record.
And add whatever that hospitalization thing was about.
Also, wonder what time that bed or other evidence was removed from the church, and if the evidence was taken as a result of her confession (probably was). That evidence would be needed to corroborate her confession.
Also, it was very telling that the monkeys picked up the grandmother's statement as to the "abused" and murdered. She knows something for sure.
Melissa's uncle too! I posted a page or two back a link to an interview where he said ....That whoever took Sandra should man'up or woman'up and turn themselves in.
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Quote from: BluesyGram on April 11, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
We might add..
Interjected herself into the investigation.
Having prior criminal record.
And add whatever that hospitalization thing was about.
Also, wonder what time that bed or other evidence was removed from the church, and if the evidence was taken as a result of her confession (probably was). That evidence would be needed to corroborate her confession.
Also, it was very telling that the monkeys picked up the grandmother's statement as to the "abused" and murdered. She knows something for sure.
Melissa attempted suicide
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=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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