Natalee Case Discussion #831 3/13/10 - 4/22/10

[Magnolia]

St Pat's - Sr. Frogs - DJ Diablo



St Pat's - Sr. Frogs - could it be??

Now I see what Johan555's problem is, it's reading comprehension.  He thinks my words "could it be?" means that I was stating 100% that it was Joran.  I'm glad that he found it entertaining 

I have never seen you call what resembles a skull a Giant Caribbean Crab either.

[Edward]

Thank You Tamikosmom for all your amazing saved quotes...

Those 2 girls.. 17 and 14 are adults today ..what are there names ? what do they say today ?

We do not have any positive accusations by any girls.. I am not discounting you at all BUT, you have hersay info.. I would not trust an Aruban lawyer "or an American one"
 and the 14 year old by the way was the one who accused Freddy of taking pictures of her ??
Joran was 17 at the time and so he was also a Minor..

and last but not lease Our news media is slanted..They lie cheat and pay for grease info and I have lost a lot respect for them for paying Joran to lie for entertainment of there Audience.

Greta: She is inclined to believe him... Really ?.. 
wtf was that ?..

The bottom line.. We really do not have any other victim..

My point is this.. Natalee's death was not a planned murder. That is all.

[Edward]

It is all smoke and mirrors out of Aruba.. I really hate that..
 Five years later still just smoke and mirrors..  I really hate that more..

[Tamikosmom]

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT:  I BELIEVE IN HIM 200 PERCENT

On the Record w/ Greta - June 23, 2005
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: … He said, The truth will come forward, and I know that I didn't do anything to the girl. And the truth will come forward. And he was so strong.  And I believe in him. I believe so in him. ... I believe in him 200 percent.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html

[2NJSons_Mom]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

[texasmom]

Holloway's Grandmother: Pictures restart emotional rollercoaster

Rocks or remains?

Tonight, Natalee Holloway's grandmother says she is not sure.

Ann Reynolds spoke exclusively with Sandra Kirk, a reporter from CBS 21's sister station in Little Rock, Arkansas, About the pictures, taken by a Lancaster County couple that some believe is her missing granddaughter.

Reynolds: "It doesn't look like anything to me. I've looked at it, I don't know how many times, every time they show it. They say it looks like a skull. Beth says it looks like a rock to her. She's bitter. You know she's had so many ups and downs, she refuses to get up."

The roller coaster of emotions is familiar ro Ann Reynolds, after her 18 year old granddaughter disappeared in Aruba five years ago.

Reynolds: "It was hard, it's been real hard." "I have to believe she is in the hands of God."

because Holloway's disappearance is still a mystery.

Reporter: What is it like to not know what happened? Reynolds: I don't know how to answer that. I don't know how to tell you what its like. If you can imagine it, it's one of the worst things in the world that I ever thought I would have to live through.

But she is. Reynolds has watched as investigators detained Joran Van Der Sloot several times, letting him go each time. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with Van Der Sloot.

Reporter: "Do you think Van Der Sloot killed Natalee? Reynolds: I think he did. I have no doubt about it what's so ever."

But Reynolds says faith, friends and memories have helped her find peace.

Reynolds: "I love all those stages of her life. I think about the funny things she used to do...that's how I keep her alive."

It is unclear when divers will start diving again to search for the possible remains. Authorities are trying to find the tour guide that took the Lancaster County Couple out to sea.
Copyright 2010 Newport Television LLC All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/Holloways-Grandmother-Pictures-restart-emotional/aSl5chzsKESaOPm2tEScqw.cspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGm4awdd4-M

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/KGm4awdd4-M&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/KGm4awdd4-M&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>

 

[Tamikosmom]

Thank You Tamikosmom for all your amazing saved quotes...

Those 2 girls.. 17 and 14 are adults today ..what are there names ? what do they say today ?

We do not have any positive accusations by any girls.. I am not discounting you at all BUT, you have hersay info.. I would not trust an Aruban lawyer "or an American one"
 and the 14 year old by the way was the one who accused Freddy of taking pictures of her ??
Joran was 17 at the time and so he was also a Minor..

and last but not lease Our news media is slanted..They lie cheat and pay for grease info and I have lost a lot respect for them for paying Joran to lie for entertainment of there Audience.

Greta: She is inclined to believe him... Really ?.. 
wtf was that ?..

The bottom line.. We really do not have any other victim..

My point is this.. Natalee's death was not a planned murder. That is all.

The accusations against Joran van der Sloot regarding sexual assaults came to naught.

Natalee's parents are one in regards to witness statements implicating the main suspects in the Natalee Holloway case.

+++++++ 

'The Abrams Report' - February 24, 2006
 
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: There were two—I know of two young girls. One was 16 and one was 14 years of age, and it was difficult for these girls to do, but they did come forward. They had to hire an attorney. They gave statements to the police. You know, these were real girls that were coming forward.  We don't know what happened or what transpired, why that never went any further than it did. We don't know if it had something to do with—I was told that Dennis Jacobs (ph) had strongly—had talked to the girls and was really putting the pressure on them to retract this, so you know, we just don't know how far that some individuals in that police department were going to go to put a stop to those girls coming forward. But they were real girls and they had been assaulted by Joran under the influence of drugs.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11590518/


Hannity & Colmes - August 10, 2005

DAVE HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FATHER: Seems like every time someone speaks out or comes forward. Just like the gardener, he is supposed to appear in court Thursday then be immediately deported. That is the work of the defense of course. Some witnesses may be scared to come forward for fear of repercussions.

[klaasend]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

Likely related to Mike Eman as he is one of his Facebook friends:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/trevor.eman?ref=search&sid=1570897983.3983232788..1

[2NJSons_Mom]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

Likely related to Mike Eman as he is one of his Facebook friends:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/trevor.eman?ref=search&sid=1570897983.3983232788..1

Thanks, Klaas....I didn't think to check there. 

[texasmom]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

Thanks 2NJ!   

I haven't posted anything about him recently but I've often wondered the same...how he's connected.  I think I just figured it out!

http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php/drag-racing/news/6123?task=view



Event coordinator Ven Eman is the owner of the Team Aruba Pro Stocker driven by his son Trevor Eman.



Henny Eman, former Prime Minister of Aruba, addressed the attendees.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20080417/NEWS/804170372?p=all&tc=pgall

snip

Henny's younger brother, Ven, is the coordinator for Team Aruba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Eman

snip


So...Trevor Eman is the nephew of Mike Eman.

Henny, his brother and long time AVP leader...

[texasmom]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

Thanks 2NJ!   

I haven't posted anything about him recently but I've often wondered the same...how he's connected.  I think I just figured it out!

http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php/drag-racing/news/6123?task=view



Event coordinator Ven Eman is the owner of the Team Aruba Pro Stocker driven by his son Trevor Eman.



Henny Eman, former Prime Minister of Aruba, addressed the attendees.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20080417/NEWS/804170372?p=all&tc=pgall

snip

Henny's younger brother, Ven, is the coordinator for Team Aruba.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Eman

snip

Henny, his brother and long time AVP leader...


So...Trevor Eman is the nephew of Mike Eman.

I don't know how I messed that up!   

[klaasend]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

Likely related to Mike Eman as he is one of his Facebook friends:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/trevor.eman?ref=search&sid=1570897983.3983232788..1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Eman

Wife:  Doina Neagoy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34029-2005Jan24.html

George D. Neagoy; Retired CIA Agent

Tuesday, January 25, 2005; Page B06

George Daniel Neagoy, 88, a retired Central Intelligence Agency agent who also owned and operated restaurants in the Washington area, died Jan. 19 at Brighton Gardens assisted living facility in Arlington. He had congestive heart failure.
(snipped)
Survivors include three daughters, Doina Neagoy of Aruba, Dutch West Indies, Monica Neagoy of Arlington and Alexandra Ville of Paris; and three granddaughters.

[texasmom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Eman

snip

Michiel Godfried Eman was born in the “San Pedro de Verona” in Oranjestad, Aruba, to Albert (Shon A) Eman, at the time leader of the AVP and his wife Blanche Eman-Harthogh. Mike became the youngest brother of Maria Albertina (Chuchu), Jan Hendrik Albert (Henny), Melva, Godlieb, Siegfried (Ven), Frederik Everhard (Braat) and Albert.

[klaasend]

So Mike Eman's father inlaw was retired CIA 

[texasmom]

I found this article yesterday and didn't post it because it was from last week and figured someone like TM may have already posted it and I missed it.  Anyway, I was wondering who this Trevor Eman is with the Aruba Race Team.  Is Eman another common name on the island?  Any relation to Mike Eman?  Just curious.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/03/17/469591.html

Likely related to Mike Eman as he is one of his Facebook friends:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/trevor.eman?ref=search&sid=1570897983.3983232788..1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Eman

Wife:  Doina Neagoy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34029-2005Jan24.html

George D. Neagoy; Retired CIA Agent

Tuesday, January 25, 2005; Page B06

George Daniel Neagoy, 88, a retired Central Intelligence Agency agent who also owned and operated restaurants in the Washington area, died Jan. 19 at Brighton Gardens assisted living facility in Arlington. He had congestive heart failure.
(snipped)
Survivors include three daughters, Doina Neagoy of Aruba, Dutch West Indies, Monica Neagoy of Arlington and Alexandra Ville of Paris; and three granddaughters.

 

[texasmom]

So Mike Eman's father inlaw was retired CIA 

Very interesting!   

[klaasend]

So Mike Eman's father inlaw was retired CIA 

Very interesting!   

Looks like she went to school in DC too   

http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8702068499

[Tamikosmom]

Holloway's Grandmother: Pictures restart emotional rollercoaster

Rocks or remains?

Tonight, Natalee Holloway's grandmother says she is not sure.

Ann Reynolds spoke exclusively with Sandra Kirk, a reporter from CBS 21's sister station in Little Rock, Arkansas, About the pictures, taken by a Lancaster County couple that some believe is her missing granddaughter.

Reynolds: "It doesn't look like anything to me. I've looked at it, I don't know how many times, every time they show it. They say it looks like a skull. Beth says it looks like a rock to her. She's bitter. You know she's had so many ups and downs, she refuses to get up."

The roller coaster of emotions is familiar ro Ann Reynolds, after her 18 year old granddaughter disappeared in Aruba five years ago.

Reynolds: "It was hard, it's been real hard." "I have to believe she is in the hands of God."

because Holloway's disappearance is still a mystery.

Reporter: What is it like to not know what happened? Reynolds: I don't know how to answer that. I don't know how to tell you what its like. If you can imagine it, it's one of the worst things in the world that I ever thought I would have to live through.

But she is. Reynolds has watched as investigators detained Joran Van Der Sloot several times, letting him go each time. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with Van Der Sloot.

Reporter: "Do you think Van Der Sloot killed Natalee? Reynolds: I think he did. I have no doubt about it what's so ever."

But Reynolds says faith, friends and memories have helped her find peace.

Reynolds: "I love all those stages of her life. I think about the funny things she used to do...that's how I keep her alive."

It is unclear when divers will start diving again to search for the possible remains. Authorities are trying to find the tour guide that took the Lancaster County Couple out to sea.
Copyright 2010 Newport Television LLC All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/Holloways-Grandmother-Pictures-restart-emotional/aSl5chzsKESaOPm2tEScqw.cspx

 

Thank you Patriot.

If Beth Holloway did not strongly believe that her daughter's remains may have been in that trap/cage afforded unchallenged to the Aruban enemy by the Persistence' Project Lead ... I contend that permission would not have been granted to the Natalee's Freebirds to release Kyle Kingman's own words.  After all ... the reputation of John Silvetti and the credibility of the Persistance endeavor were in the balance.

+++++


klassend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #787 12/24/08 -
« Reply #411 on: December 30, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »

Sent to me by Natalee's Freebirds:

<snipped>

During that time, we learned Kyle had never contacted Beth, or Dave, or the FBI with this information.
 
We put our original plan into motion - that of presenting this information in a clear and concise manner, and we sent it to Beth Holloway.
 
Beth was disturbed, needed time to digest the information, and wanted to share it with someone she trusts.
 
When Tim Miller was returning to Aruba this past fall, Beth gave us permission to release this information publicly.

<snipped>

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4269.msg603349#msg603349

[Tamikosmom]

I'm so sorry I missed Red last night! I wanted to ask if Beth is encouraged/discouraged or had any feel for the new regime in Aruba.

I will certainly ask her the next time we talk. Personally, until they do something different, its the same old, same old. Same animal, different spots.

Until anyone shows that they will act and conduct themself differently, they will be dubbed the same in my book.

[texasmom]

http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php/drag-racing/news/6123?task=view

snip

Ven Eman's Aruba Tourism-sponsored Pro Stock team held an open house on Wednesday, April 16, 2008, for the hundreds of race fans seeking a tour of what promises to be the first of many race teams expected to migrate to Union County in South Carolina. Local officials have rolled out the red carpet in an effort to make the Union County Industrial Park the southern equivalent of Brownburg, Indiana.