Caylee Marie Anthony #152 11/20/09 - 12/09/09

[Northern Rose]

sam1s0sa09: I met george and cindy anthony today at work and i just wanted to hug them lol

www.twitter.com

[Northern Rose]

Sorry if this has been posted already:

Jose Baez on Talk Forensics Blog Talk Show
Baez doesn't join the show until about five minutes in.

http://www.realitychatter.com/caylee-anthony-f14/jose-baez-on-talk-forensics-blog-talk-show-t1539.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Comments:

Re: Jose Baez on Talk Forensics Blog Talk Show
 by awaiting justice on Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:58 pm


It was more sickening goop... the fact that he brings up Dr. Lee and the suspicion over his ethics made me laugh...
Clearly, it goes without saying that the kind of experts that JB wud want on this case, are the kind that allegations of shadiness have been made...... hmmm
The interview made me sick about how ppl look to the media and want "juicy and sexy" .........Like there is no reason for ppl to hands down see what that monster did?????? June isnt that far away.. then we wont need to listen to crap like this anymore..at least not inspite of Caylee...

Re: Jose Baez on Talk Forensics Blog Talk Show
 by Tracey6434 on Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:41 am


Well there goes 45 minutes of my life, I'll never get back. UGH! I listened to it last night and just more of the same. Yuck!

And geez, who was the suck up interviewing him! Oh, Jose (insert batting of the eyes here), I respect you soo much! She said it like every other sentence.

[Northern Rose]

Hi Boo     Miss your posts.  You are in my prayers. 

[Northern Rose]

I did a drive by Kid Finders website and it is gone!  Can someone else please try the link so I can pinch myself .

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com

[Northern Rose]

House of Purpose is still registered as active as well as Kid Finders.

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?action=DETREG&docnum=G09027900182&rdocnum=G09027900182

[Northern Rose]

Milstead's lost their house.  Sorry, I had not checked on it in a while.  Their stall tactic of filing bankruptcy did not work:

Report Selection Criteria

   Case ID:   502008CA031103XXXXMB 
   Docket Start Date:   
   Docket Ending Date:   


Case Description

   Case ID:   502008CA031103XXXXMB 
   Case Caption:   BERNARD ROSENBLOOM V DENNIS MILSTEAD 
   Division:   AW - SASSER 
   Filing Date:   Wednesday, October 08th, 2008 
   Court:   CA - CIRCUIT CIVIL 
   Location:   MB - MAIN BRANCH 
   Jury:   N-Non Jury 
   Type:    RF - REAL PROPERTY/FORECLOSURE 
   Status:    DJ - DISPOSED BY JUDGE 


Related Cases

No related cases were found.

Case Event Schedule

No case events were found.

Case Parties

Seq # Assoc Expn Date Type ID Name
1       PLAINTIFF @1545507 ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD  Aliases: none 
   
2 1    ATTORNEY 0046736 SERLE , ESQ, STEVEN  Aliases: none 
   
3       DEFENDANT @1545508 MILSTEAD, DENNIS W Aliases: none 
   
4       DEFENDANT @1545494 MILSTEAD, SHERRI J Aliases: none 
   
5       JUDGE AW SASSER, JUDGE MEENU  Aliases: none 
   


Docket Entries

Docket
Number Docket Type Book and Page No. Attached To:
 00000 - ADDITIONAL COMMENTS   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
 800FF - CAFF   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
 0LISP - FEE/LIS PENDENS ($5.60)   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
 PE - PENDING   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
 RCPT - RECEIPT FOR PAYMENT   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: A Payment of -$330.60 was made on receipt CAMB249209.
1  CMP - COMPLAINT   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
2  CCS - CIVIL COVER SHEET   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
3  LISP - LIS PENDENS Book 022904 - Page 01487 
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
4  SMIS - SUMMONS ISSUED   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: SM-08-179051
5  SMIS - SUMMONS ISSUED   
Filing Date: 08-OCT-2008
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, SHERRI J
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: SM-08-179052
 SRTN - SERVICE RETURN (ATTACHED)   
Filing Date: 16-OCT-2008
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, SHERRI J
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: SERVED 10/09/08
 SRTN - SERVICE RETURN (ATTACHED)   
Filing Date: 16-OCT-2008
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: SERVED 10/9/08
6  ANS - ANSWER   
Filing Date: 29-OCT-2008
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: AND SHERRI J MILSTEAD AS TRUSTEES OF THE DENNIS W MILSTEAD AND SHERRI MILSTEAD REVOCABLE TRUST AGREEMENT ANSWER TO FORECLOSURE MORTGAGE
7  MOT - MOTION   
Filing Date: 20-NOV-2008
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: FOR SUMMARY FNAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE AND TAXATION OFATTY'S FEES AND COSTS
8  NOH - NOTICE OF HEARING   
Filing Date: 31-DEC-2008
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: MOTION FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE AND TAXATION OF ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS - 03/23/09 AT 10:00 AM
9  FJFC - FINAL JUDGMENT FORECLOSURE Book 023147 - Page 00662 
Filing Date: 24-MAR-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: $565,363.36 SALE DATE JUNE 25, 2009 DTD 3/23/09 COOK
 DJ - DISPOSED BY JUDGE  9
Filing Date: 24-MAR-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: none.
10  NOSA - NOTICE OF SALE   
Filing Date: 24-MAR-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: 6/25/09 BERNARD ROSENBLOOM VS MILSTEAD PUB PBDBR MAY 13 AND MAY 20, 2009
11  NOF - NOTICE OF FILING   
Filing Date: 24-MAR-2009
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: ORIGINAL NOTE
12  DORF - DOR FORECLOSURE FORM   
Filing Date: 30-MAR-2009
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: AMENDED
13  MOT - MOTION   
Filing Date: 09-JUN-2009
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: AND SHERRI J. MILSTEAD. TO REQUEST EXTENSION OF SALE DATE ON FORECLOSURE PROPERTY
14  EMOT - EMERGENCY MOTION   
Filing Date: 18-JUN-2009
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: AND SHERRI MILSTEAD; TO REQUEST EXTENSION OF SALE DATE ON FORECLOSURE PROPERTY
15  ORD - ORDER   
Filing Date: 18-JUN-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: DENYING DEFTS' EMERGENCY MOTION TO REQUEST EXTENSION OF SALE DATE IS DENIED JUDGE CROW 6/18/09
16  SGBK - SUGGESTION OF BANKRUPTCY   
Filing Date: 23-JUN-2009
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, DENNIS W
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: SUGG BK, CASE NO. 09-22689
17  NOH - NOTICE OF HEARING   
Filing Date: 11-SEP-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: ON 9/17/09.
18  MOT - MOTION   
Filing Date: 11-SEP-2009
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: TO SET DATE
19  ORST - ORDER RESETTING   
Filing Date: 17-SEP-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: RESETTING SALE DATE NOV 19 2009 DTD SEPT 17 2009 SASSER
20  NOSA - NOTICE OF SALE   
Filing Date: 17-SEP-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: 11/19/09 BERNARD ROSENBLOOM V DENNIS W MILSTEAD ET AL PUB PBDBR NOV 4 AND 11 2009
21  MOT - MOTION   
Filing Date: 05-NOV-2009
Filing Party: MILSTEAD, SHERRI J
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: AND DENNIS- TO REQ A REVERSAL OF THE ORDER
26  NOH - NOTICE OF HEARING   
Filing Date: 13-NOV-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: ON 11/16/09 @ 8:45 AM
 RCPT - RECEIPT FOR PAYMENT   
Filing Date: 19-NOV-2009
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: A Payment of $70.70 was made on receipt CAMB358697.
 FFADD - FORECLOSURE FEES ADDED   
Filing Date: 19-NOV-2009
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: A Foreclosure Fees Payment of $70.70 was made on receipt CAMB358698.
22  COFS - CERTIFICATE OF SALE   
Filing Date: 19-NOV-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: SOLD TO PLT FOR $100.00
23  BID - BID SHEET   
Filing Date: 19-NOV-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: BANNER AND LAPTOP RECEIPTS ATTACHED
24  PPUB - PROOF OF PUBLICATION   
Filing Date: 19-NOV-2009
Filing Party: ROSENBLOOM, BERNARD 
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: NOTICE OF SALE
25  ORD - ORDER   
Filing Date: 19-NOV-2009
Filing Party:   
Disposition Amount:
Docket Text: ON DEFT'S MOTION TO REQUEST A REVEREALOF THE ORDER OF PLTF MOTION TO SET A NEW SALE DATE FOR TEH SALE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DUE TO NEW CIRCUMSTANCES WITH IN A NEW BANKRUPTCY RULING IS DENIED 11/18/09

http://courtcon.co.palm-beach.fl.us/pls/jiwp/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=502008CA031103XXXXMB&begin_date=&end_date=

[Northern Rose]

The sideline business Safety in a FLASHtm  is still online but that site has changed as well.  Here is what is on the About Us page now:

This Page Is Coming Soon... 

 

Florida Solicitation Registration Number CH22182

"A COPY OF THE OFFICIAL REGISTRATION AND FINANCIAL INFORMATION MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE DIVISION OF CONSUMER SERVICES BY CALLING TOLL-FREE 1-800-435-7352 IN FLORIDA. REGISTRATION DOES NOT IMPLY ENDORSEMENT, APPROVAL, OR RECOMMENDATION BY THE STATE."

http://www.safetyinaflash.com/about-us.html

[Northern Rose]

Am I reading this wrong or did they list the Bass Boat on a boat advertising site at one time?

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:HCBhlKRVnmEJ:articles.directorym.com/Boat_Advertising_Fort_Pierce_FL-r989544-Fort_Pierce_FL.html+561+333-2779&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

[Northern Rose]

Their domain expired   

Domain Name: KIDFINDERSNETWORK.COM
   Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
   Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
   Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
   Name Server: NS1.GEPCOM.COM
   Name Server: NS3.GEPCOM.COM
   Status: redemptionPeriod
   Updated Date: 04-nov-2009
   Creation Date: 24-sep-2006
   Expiration Date: 24-sep-2009

http://whois.domaintools.com/kidfindersnetwork.com

[Northern Rose]

Extreme Search http://www.extremesearchandrescue.com/contact.html

Sani-Clean http://h1n1specialist.com/

Both  have their addresses  as P.O. Box 212306 | West Palm Beach, FL. 33421


I thought there was a hotline set up in the US to verify and report any company with claims about H1N1 related products?

[Northern Rose]

Florida Limited Liability Company 
SANI-CLEAN SANITIZING & DEODORIZING SERVICES, LLC.
Filing Information
Document Number L09000072083
FEI/EIN Number NONE
Date Filed 07/27/2009
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Effective Date 08/01/2009
 
Principal Address
1740 E ROAD
LOXAHATCHEE FL 33470 
Mailing Address
P.O. BOX 212306

WEST PALM BEACH FL 33421 
Registered Agent Name & Address
CREATIVE WORLD TECHNOLOGY, LLC
2825 S.W. 22ND AVE.
SUITE 105
DELRAY BEACH FL 33445 US
Manager/Member Detail
Name & Address
Title MGR
CREATIVE WORLD TECHNOLOGY, LLC.
1740 E ROAD
LOXAHATCHEE FL 33470 
Annual Reports
No Annual Reports Filed
Document Images
07/27/2009 -- Florida Limited Liabili
 
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=L09000072083&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=SANICLEAN&names_filing_type=


If you go to the document images Page 2:

The name and address of managing/members are:
Title: MGR
Creative World Technology, LLC
1740 E Road
Loxahatchee, Fl 33470

Article VI
The effective date for this Limited Liability Company shall be:

08/01/2009
Signature of member or an authorized representative of a member
Signature: SHERRI MILSTEAD

[Northern Rose]

I don't remember this company but it is definately the Milstead's.

Detail by Entity Name
Florida Limited Liability Company 
CREATIVE WORLD TECHNOLOGY, LLC
Filing Information
Document Number L09000065298
FEI/EIN Number NONE
Date Filed 07/07/2009
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Effective Date 07/01/2009
 
Principal Address
1740 E ROAD
STE. A
LOXAHATCHEE FL 33470 
Mailing Address
P.O. BOX 212306
WEST PALM BEACH FL 33421  Registered Agent Name & Address
GALLETS, EUNICE
2825 SW 22ND AVE
STE. 105
DELRAY BEACH FL 33445 US
Manager/Member Detail
Name & Address
NONE
Annual Reports
No Annual Reports Filed
Document Images

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=L09000065298&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=CREATIVEWORLDTECHNOLOGY&names_filing_type=

If you open the document image at this link:

Article V
effictive date 07/01/2009

Signature Dennis W Milstead

[Northern Rose]

Creative World Technology, LLC also shows up at: http://sani-max.com/

[Northern Rose]

Here is the Milstead's house listed For Sale including pictures of the inside:

1740 E Road, Loxahatchee, FL 33470$499,000Location: Loxahatchee, Florida
Bedrooms: 4 Bathrooms: 5 Sq Ft: 6300 Lot Size: 5 acres
Description: Distressed Sale MUST Sell Fast!! This is a short sale, but with a private lender and he has basically approved everything. We can get you a response the same day that you make your offer!! Huge, Newer home on 5 acres. All bids considered!! Seller may hold note for $300k at an attractive rate. For additional info please visit www.JohnsonAndJohnsonTeam.comless details «

Found 6 days ago

http://www.vast.com/real_estate/location-Loxahatchee--FL/price-335001.575000


+++Pre-Foreclosure+++MUST Sell Fast!!

1740 E Road
Loxahatchee , FL  33470
Single Family Home
Beds: 4
Baths: 5
Sq.Ft.: 6300

Property Details
++Distressed Sale+++MUST Sell Fast!! This is a short sale, but with a private lender and he has basically approved everything. We can get you a response the same day that you make your offer!! Huge, Newer home on 5 acres. All bids considered!! Seller may hold note for $300k at an attractive rate. For additional info please visit www.JohnsonAndJohnsonTeam.com
Building Features
Family room
Formal dining room
Guest room
Central A/C
Game room


http://johnsonandjohnsonteam.com/silver_listings.asp?id=419939

[Northern Rose]

House pictures:

http://johnsonandjohnsonteam.com/silver_listings.asp?id=419939

[trimmonthelake]

I did a drive by Kid Finders website and it is gone!  Can someone else please try the link so I can pinch myself .

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com

It wasn't there.I wonder what is going on? 

[trimmonthelake]

[tupelohoney]

Northern Rose, thank you for all the updates, you are quite the detective!   

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Some interesting comments from a couple of posters:


http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=899&cpage=1#comment-1762

 Maura said: { Dec 3, 2009 - 11:12:25 }

George’s Gas Can Story Versions

Version 1:

George’s FBI interview July 31 (page 41 on):

George: As I’m getting ready to go out the door, my daughter just blows past me, she’s. “Dad, I’ll get it.” I said, “Casey, I’m capable of getting it out. I know where it’s at.” You know, trying to be . . . as I’m still walking out through the garage with my daughter down the driveway, she’s, “Dad, I’ll get it.” She keeps on pushing her hand back like “don’t come close,” you know, type deal. Finally, I get back to the back of the car and say, “Casey,” she opened up the trunk, and then she says, Here your starts with an F and ends with an N. I’m not gonna say what the word is.

(snip)

Scott Bolin: Okay. When she popped the trunk, were you back at the back of the car?

George: Yeah, yeah. There was definitely – I could see clothes back there.

Scott Bolin: Okay.

George: She has a plastic blue bin that is collapsible. We all have ‘em in our vehicles.

Scott Bolin: Yes

George: And, ah, and the gas cans were inside this blue bin that she had. ‘Cause she pulled ‘em out . . .

Scott Bolin: Gallon cans?

George: Yeah, it’s like a two-and-a-half gallon can. It’s like a circular one, and then I had a smaller plastic one that I keep the stuff for my trimmer and stuff just to add . . .

Scott Bolin: Yeah.

George: . . . um, oil with that one, so I keep that one separate from the other one. There’s two of ‘em.

Scott Bolin: Okay.

George: So, she handed ‘em to me. They’re empty.

*****

Version 2:

OCSO Interview August 4 page 23:

George: And she says, “Dad, I’ll get it.” As I’m walking, I just get back where the passenger rear tail light is to her car; she throws up in a turn, she says, “Here are your f-ing cans.”

(snip)

George: She hurries up and she gets in her car, takes off. I had the gas cans because she handed them to me. I did not look in the trunk.

OCSO: Right.

George: Because the distance where I was at, she’s the one that just handed them to me and slammed the trunk right away. All I could say is . . . .

OCSO: Maybe you’re thinking that’s the re, that’s the only reason that she’s . . .

George: Right. I mean . . .

OCSO: . . . being evasive is because she’s got your gas can.

*****

Version 3:

Greta Van Susteren, On the Record, August 5

GEORGE ANTHONY: And I said, “Really?” She says, “Yes.” I said, “Interesting.” And I just said, “Hey, by the way,” I said, “I’m getting ready to rotate your mom’s tires on her car. There’s a little metal wedge that fits underneath your tires so your car doesn’t rock back and forth.” And I said, “Well, I’d like to have it, so in case you’re not here over the weekend, I’d like to be able to do it.”

She was hesitant about letting me get in the car. And I said, “Well, listen, I got an extra key. I’ll just go get it.” Well, she was adamant about — about that.

VAN SUSTEREN: What, not letting you into the car?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, didn’t want me to get into the car to get the stuff out. “Dad, I’ll get it for you. Dad, I’ll get it out.” I said, “It’s no problem. I know where it’s at. I’ll get it, get it out and be done with it.”

So as we’re walking out through the garage, she’s still telling me, “Dad, I’ll get it. Give me a minute, I’ll get it.” I said, “Casey, I’m capable of reaching inside your car, and I got it.” So — and she opened up the trunk of the car…

CINDY ANTHONY: The gas cans were there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE) The gas cans there. She’s the one that took the gas cans.

*****

Version 4:

I haven’t finished his SAO deposition, but when he first talked about the gas can incident (about half-way through the deposition), he did not mention looking in the trunk at all, and the prosecutors did not ask him whether he looking in the trunk.


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an interesting post from OS comments
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/bre ...

IdiotProof,
I posted this on another thread for your input:
Interesting that you mention a steak knife. Cindy was asked about it during her depo and I was a bit confused bcuz I didn't realize there was an additional steak knife found at the crime scene bcuz if I understood the depo right there was ALSO a steak knife inside of Casey's car. Cindy identified the knife as hers and said she had 2 sets of silverware and the knife she identified was not the day-to-day set they used but instead came from a drawer in the dining room, going as far to say they were kept underneath something else.
This is super significant if the knife at the crime scene matches bcuz a "burglar" would not have known where to find these knives without ransacking the home, in other words, the killer lived at the Anthony home.
If I am not recalling something right please correct it or add any other information bcuz in my mind if these knives match the case is closed. It's pretty much the equivalence of finding Casey's prints.
Which reminds me of Cindy's depo regarding the "Pooh blanket". Cindy says the blanket was not kept in Casey's OR Caylee's room but instead was in a dresser in Lee's old room with other blankets. This is another huge piece of evidence bcuz again, only someone who lived in the Anthony home would know the location of the blanket without totally ransacking the home.

dawnisis (12/03/2009, 1:40 PM )

[SunnyinTX]

NUT???   I am starting over this morning!!   Good Morning Monks!  NR...you ahve been a busy lady. Thanks for all the updates!!

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.examiner.com/x-23328-True-Crime-Examiner~y2009m12d4-Casey
Casey Anthony: jury matters and cash cows to be?
December 4, 8:22 AMTrue Crime ExaminerIvy Bigbee
Looking ahead to the Casey Anthony capital murder trial, Orlando criminal lawyer and legal analyst Richard Hornsby reckons the legal process will be a "cash cow" that could be lucrative to future jurors, because "anything related to this case can have a lasting value."

Previously, in part 1 of True Crime Examiner's exclusive interview with Hornsby, the likelihood of Anthony agreeing to a plea bargain is possible, if the accused murderer, Hornsby says--who is tired of her celebrity and has had time to reflect--warms to the advice of attorney, Andrea Lyon. 

Hornsby says the DePaul University clinical professor of law and Anthony team's unofficial new captain "wouldn't be doing her job" if the death penalty expert did not present the opportunity for possibly saving her client's life.

In part 2 today, Hornsby sheds light on the yet-determined Anthony panel, exploring jury behavior the  legal analyst views as a component before, during and after the trial.

With a criminal law practice to maintain and serving as the president for the Central Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Richard Hornsby appears to be a rising star in the stratosphere and blogosphere of legal pundits who currently is handling 2 murder cases, while keeping up with the Anthony trials. Involved in community service, he also maintains a legal information blog, posts on which often put the self-deprecating pundit at odds with others.

A recent controversy pitted Hornsby, who notes in general he has not spoken with the Anthony defense, against media analyst and local attorney, Bill Scheaffer, who, he says, "sold out an organization"--the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers--after the lawyer and WFTV legal consultant wrangled an audio copy of the "Death is Different" seminar tape, whose content allowed a wide-eyed public to "go behind the [defense lawyers'] curtain," in a rare look at recommended defense tactics in capital cases.
n remarks to an assembly of defense lawyers who met during a 2008 educational seminar in Orlando--in a speech never meant for the general public--Andrea Lyon shared her penalty phase, "scorched earth, take-no (Roy Kronk, perhaps others)-prisoners" tactics on convincing a jury that "life is life," in order to avoid the death sentence for those convicted of capital offenses.

Regarding the public exchange between Scheaffer and Hornsby on the audio tape's acquisition and content, Hornsby maintains, "I don't have a problem with critiquing, but you'd better be right in what you say."

"The tape is not that shocking to any [legal] practitioner," says Hornsby, who agreed to this interview not long after he told Scheaffer via "Florida Law and the Criminal Justice System" he would be "on him like white on rice" after details of the tape's acquisition surfaced.

Scheaffer, interviewed by WFTV reporter, Kathi Belich for his take on the inflammatory Lyon speech, did not respond to requests from True Crime Examiner, who sought his reaction to Hornby's having determined how the WFTV legal analyst obtained the audio: by telling the seminar's organizer that he had "trouble hearing the remarks," and needed a copy of the recording.

Reactions to Lyon's tape--reportedly pulled from Orlando TV station WFTV after news director, Bob Jordan said the article "had its run"--sent a tidal wave of anger over the Casey Anthony trial watch community.
Asked if the tape would have any effect on voir dire or on the resulting capital case jury, Hornsby replied, "No. Since the tapes didn't make it to 'Nancy Grace,' where they would have been played over and over," their remarks shouldn't influence a jury.

Andrea Lyon's tape and her client's plea deal notwithstanding, the case likely will go to trial, and therefore a jury should be in place some time in 2010. Beyond pre-trial motions and judicial "housekeeping" matters, striking a jury will be of primary concern, although months of preparation--including various polls, mock trials and additional jury consultant input--are certain to preface opening remarks.

Although Hornsby goes on "gut instinct" in voir dire, or jury selection, and does not hire a jury consultant, the high-profile Anthony case cries out for the services of second-generation diviners in the tradition of Jo-Ellan Dimitrius, aka, "the Seer," called upon by the defense to help pick jurors and to advise on other aspects of trials.

Dimitrius worked as a jury consultant in cases including those of "Night Stalker," Richard Ramirez and McMartin Preschool; the OJ Simpson case bore her imprimatur, though later, the famed juror-whisperer said she "hoped people did not blame her" for the criminal trial's outcome.

Like Hornsby, the renowned jury consultant and author also admits she uses "gut feelings" about a juror's ability to insure a particular outcome.

Although one study says scientific jury selection, or SJS, is effective as an attorney's gut reaction to a potential juror, nevertheless, beyond the most important aspect of a trial--evidence--using science to pick a jury "is more likely to have an impact where the evidence is ambiguous," according to a Wikipedia overview.
In picking a jury, Dimitrius and others walk blended lines between so-called "horse sense" and a sort of experiential ESP; practitioners are about finding a juror who " ... will view [the] case most favorably" she says. 

Subjectively, the aim is to grade potential jurors on "empathy, analytic ability, leadership, gregariousness and life experience, areas of sensitivity and awareness both Dimitrius and Richard Hornsby may equate with gut reaction.

"In death penalty cases," says Dimitrius in her book, "Reading People," the watchwords are "personal responsibility, punitiveness and authoritarianism," attributes which can motivate people sometimes known as stealth jurors to lie during the process of jury selection.

Much has been written about jury consultant firms or so called "hired guns." Often mega-conglomerates of forensic experts in every related field, such firms are akin to multi-specialty medical practices, both comprised of sub-specialty professionals.

It is not uncommon also to encounter specialists practicing in smaller "boutique" firms, offering jury research, venue analysis--where or where not to move a case--juror profilers, "opening and closing statement and design, witness preparation, theme development,' etc.

Often at the ready--for a "consideration"--are statisticians, social and forensic psychologists, psychiatrists, diversity consultants and graphic designers, tasked to create various visual aids.

When a jury is finally seated, is there any doubt their experience won't be remarkable?  With instant fan clubs from trial watchers, is there any doubt that interested people the world over will come to recognize members of the jury--via media correspondents and their Blackberries?

Revisiting the 2004 Scott Peterson case, not far from the other Disney World, jurors became Cinderella and Prince Charming-like celebrities; Richelle "Strawberry Shortcake" Nice, nicknamed for her ever-changing shades of pink-red hair, went on to appear in magazines. Seven members of the jury
wrote a book about their service in the Laci and Conner Peterson capital murder case.

Only in the hot lights of a high-profile murder trial could "Strawberry Shortcake" not appear half-baked. The person who insisted the prosecution keep Richelle Nice--because he noticed her "righteous anger" when questioned about her tattoos--was Howard Varinsky, of Varinsky Associates, a California jury consulting firm. Varinsky knew Nice when he met that juror, and that she would vote for conviction.

Through the complex trial preparation period, jury consulting firms will window-shop for jurors, and fine-tune their decisions to determine who is a good fit for their side.

According to some consultants, potential jurors will be asked subtle and some not-so-subtle questions; there is even jury selection advice to drive by candidates' houses to BOLO for political yard signs, or bumper stickers associated with someone in the jury pool; in a small town, the locals are often asked about potential jurors, a la John Grisham's "Runaway Jury."

Beyond "Tapegate's" furor, the Casey Anthony murder trial may exceed the O.J. Simpson case's sensationalism, because now, trial-watchers can and do talk back, communicating not only on blogs, but sometimes via instantaneous keystrokes to principals in the case.

Florida's Sunshine laws that go farther than most states in providing close looks at legal documents seemingly put interested parties within a virtual lint speck of trial principals.
Just how close can the public come to an attorney? One source relates that during then Court TV-broadcast of Melanie McGuire's New Jersey murder trial, a viewer e-mailed defense lawyer, Joe Tacopino, suggesting his client change her wardrobe style from body-conscious clothing to more appropriate attire.  During court, Mr. Tacopino replied to the email, thanking them for the suggestion.

Next day and thereafter, McGuire appeared in more court-savvy garb, however, the fertility nurse was convicted, and her appeal for a new trial in her husband's grisly murder-dismemberment, "suitcase murder" was denied.

For members of Casey Anthony's defense to read emails during court in part may depend on the prosecution.

After all the talk, the science and non-science regarding any Casey Anthony jury, there is much to be said, and much unknown, as evidenced in the last few weeks of pre-trial motions and remains-to-be-seen fallout from the defense, or so they would have it, for each upcoming Anthony case.