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Topic: Haleigh Cummings #2 2/20/09 - 2/26/09 (Read 326111 times)
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nonesuche
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: flamom on February 26, 2009, 04:59:55 PM
Zebras dont change their stripes, and young people using drugs are slow to change and fairly predictable with their drug use. What I am wondering is what did Ron and Misty do first, call 911 or clear out their assorted drug stashes and paraphenalia before the cops came? I believe he had nothing to do with his baby going missing, but I can see him tossing and flushing while he was cursing and pacing.....
Due to OSHA compliance he would likely lose his job asap if he failed a drug test or was arrested for drug possession......at the very least an arrest for possession would trigger a drug test with his employer. He operates heavy machinery......
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Rob on February 26, 2009, 05:15:06 PM
Klaas-
Windchime was a member here before the crash in '05 and posted in the NH threads. Thanks for the heads up
Somehow I am not surprised
***
As for Crystal - a court order to seize her tooth brush will suffice until she is located. A hairbrush will work just as well in the meantime. Obviously, this is a major issue and any mother that will not give a DNA sample immediately is a real "piece of work".
Beth Holloway basically ran to the Oduber hospital to give a sample on 6-12-2005. Anyone truly concerned about the wealth fare of her CHILD would move mountains to help. This is a true insight into why Crystal
does not
have custody.
Prayers for Haleigh
Rob - good to see you! Was her nickname Windchime here at SM?
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 26, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Klaasend, is it OK if I post this? (Don't want to inadvertently faux pas.) I'm unclear as to whether this "windchime" person is the admin or co-admin of WS or what.
Websleuths' "Windchime" Criminal Record
((edit - I'd prefer people go to the links and decide for themselves ))
http://truthaboutws.createmybb2.com/showthread.php?tid=4
Add my
to this.
Yes, you certainly NEVER know who is on the other side of that keyboard.
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rana
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Wyks on February 26, 2009, 04:57:48 PM
Tracking dogs and cadaver dogs are, IMO, America's four-footed heroes.
[snipped and bolded]
WORD!!
Side note: I ran across a great article on this subject that I bet you'd really enjoy. I'll see if I can find it; But there's so much going on at the moment. YIKES again.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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February 26, 2009, 05:19:50 PM »
Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 05:14:34 PM
Quote from: peanut on February 26, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: Searching on February 26, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
OMG.... On HLN they just said Detectives ASKED her for a DNA sample and she said no,can not do it,have Dr. appointment and now they can not find her....
This is shocking on so many levels.
First, you'd think they'd already have samples from bio mom and dad.
Second, if they asked for
anything
from a parent related to their missing child, it seems that would certainly take precedence over any appointment or
anything else.
Peanut, you and I are no doubt watching the same HLN broadcast - and to add what you already said - the guy (don't know his name.... HLN guy) said that bio mom said NO CAN DO to the DNA sample request and promptly jumped in the car.
They thought OK no biggy.... we know who her doctor is.... we'll just find her there; But she
wasn't there.
Did I hear that right?
YIKES... what on earth?
*nods*
this is just bizzare, why would she refuse? and why isnt she where she said she was going?
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Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2009, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 26, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Klaasend, is it OK if I post this? (Don't want to inadvertently faux pas.) I'm unclear as to whether this "windchime" person is the admin or co-admin of WS or what.
Websleuths' "Windchime" Criminal Record
((edit - I'd prefer people go to the links and decide for themselves ))
http://truthaboutws.createmybb2.com/showthread.php?tid=4
Add my
to this.
Yes, you certainly NEVER know who is on the other side of that keyboard.
One good reason to keep personal information just that. Personal.
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Wonder if this is true. From reading around the web, there seems to be several who don't like the powers that be over at WS, and might go to great lengths in trying to bring them down. I hope that this report isn't true, that it's part of some kind of vendetta. Yet even that would be very sad as well.
I'm so glad to be a member at SM. This kind of stuff just doesn't happen here. (knock on wood! lol)
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Rob
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Reply #1867 on:
February 26, 2009, 05:23:16 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 05:15:51 PM
Rob - good to see you! Was her nickname Windchime here at SM?
Always my pleasure to see you too
Klaas.
I got your email and I have been meaning to reply, and I promise I will. I was not ignoring you... just didn't know where to start...Thank you for your concern - it means the world to me. You are a doll. And I saw all you were going thru with the new hate site. You have my thoughts and prayers always. No one should have to deal with that - let alone someone so devoted to missing children and crime victims. You will always have my respect!!
Yes, her name was Windchime and she had the Avi with the cat with the melon on it's head as a helmet. Sometimes having a photographic memory is hell!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Searching on February 26, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
OMG.... On HLN they just said Detectives ASKED her for a DNA sample and she said no,can not do it,have Dr. appointment and now they can not find her....
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peanut
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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February 26, 2009, 05:24:17 PM »
Quote from: Brandi on February 26, 2009, 05:19:59 PM
Quote from: Anna on February 26, 2009, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 26, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Klaasend, is it OK if I post this? (Don't want to inadvertently faux pas.) I'm unclear as to whether this "windchime" person is the admin or co-admin of WS or what.
Websleuths' "Windchime" Criminal Record
((edit - I'd prefer people go to the links and decide for themselves ))
http://truthaboutws.createmybb2.com/showthread.php?tid=4
Add my
to this.
Yes, you certainly NEVER know who is on the other side of that keyboard.
One good reason to keep personal information just that. Personal.
id quote this 100 times if i could.
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rana
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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February 26, 2009, 05:24:37 PM »
Quote from: Wyks on February 26, 2009, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: Wyks on February 26, 2009, 03:51:27 PM
In Stacy Peterson's case, in a forum for that, we had a guest speaker who owns a cadaver dog, doing a Q&A about those dogs. She said that when LE uses cadaver dogs and clear an area, they nearly always go back a second, sometimes a third time. Their reasoning being that an area is not 'officially cleared' until the dogs go thru it again. Not that they don't trust the dogs, but because in many cases the perp finds out where they cleared the first time and moves evidence/body into that area. It's one reason that LE doesn't like to announce a search site, either before or after.
Those dogs are amazing to me. Interesting point about the multiple searches. Also, I wonder if the state of decomposition makes a difference in how readily a dog "hits" on an area? IOW, for example, day 14 as opposed to day 4.... so would they go back to an area of interest after more days pass?
There sure is a difference in decomp between day 1 and day 14. To humans and testing, etc. To a cadaver dog's nose tho, it's my understanding that there's no difference in the decomp no matter what day or stage that decomp is at. Decomp is decomp to their noses, from day 1 onward.
Ok.. good to know. Somehow I thought that the gases that emanate become more pungent, but I guess that would apply to far less sensitive human noses.
So since the dogs are super sensitive they can sniff out decomp on day 1?
I'm such a pain with infinite questions, but as to - for example, day 4 vs day, say, day 14 would humidity and temp figure into that at all? Or it wouldn't matter b/c the dogs can pick it up day 1 regardless? TIA
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: islandmonkey on February 26, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Klaasend, is it OK if I post this? (Don't want to inadvertently faux pas.) I'm unclear as to whether this "windchime" person is the admin or co-admin of WS or what.
Websleuths' "Windchime" Criminal Record
((edit - I'd prefer people go to the links and decide for themselves ))
http://truthaboutws.createmybb2.com/showthread.php?tid=4
Ooops! Okee dokey (sorry for the paste)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 04:52:13 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Thanks Klaasend. OMG!
"Windchime" from WS is a SO?
Stunned.
I wonder what state she lives in.. I went to the FDLE website and ran all 3 last names thru the database with no results..
Nothing surprises me anymore.
It may explain the day at BP with LP she sat at a picnic table all day smoking and flashing her moose knuckle at all of us watching via Murt's webcam
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Rob on February 26, 2009, 05:15:06 PM
Klaas-
Windchime was a member here before the crash in '05 and posted in the NH threads. Thanks for the heads up
Somehow I am not surprised
***
As for Crystal - a court order to seize her tooth brush will suffice until she is located. A hairbrush will work just as well in the meantime. Obviously, this is a major issue and any mother that will not give a DNA sample immediately is a real "piece of work".
Beth Holloway basically ran to the Oduber hospital to give a sample on 6-12-2005. Anyone truly concerned about the wealth fare of her CHILD would move mountains to help. This is a true insight into why Crystal
does not
have custody.
Prayers for Haleigh
Hi Rob, good to see you again!
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rana
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: nonesuche on February 26, 2009, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: klaasend on February 26, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
O/T but for WS members. This is horrible if true, read the comments. Just proves sometimes you just never know:
http://beaconhell.com/blog/?p=613&cpage=1#comment-11550
Does this mean the predators are now infiltrating in this way? I don't belong to WS but geez this does appear to be horrible?
Horrible on any scale, but for a child advocate-oriented site. I can't stop saying Yikes! and Word!!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: rana on February 26, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
Quote from: Wyks on February 26, 2009, 04:57:48 PM
Tracking dogs and cadaver dogs are, IMO, America's four-footed heroes.
[snipped and bolded]
WORD!!
Side note: I ran across a great article on this subject that I bet you'd really enjoy. I'll see if I can find it; But there's so much going on at the moment. YIKES again.
Yeah there is.
But if you find it, I'd love to read it!
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Rob on February 26, 2009, 05:15:06 PM
Klaas-
Windchime was a member here before the crash in '05 and posted in the NH threads. Thanks for the heads up
Somehow I am not surprised
***
As for Crystal - a court order to seize her tooth brush will suffice until she is located. A hairbrush will work just as well in the meantime. Obviously, this is a major issue and any mother that will not give a DNA sample immediately is a real "piece of work".
Beth Holloway basically ran to the Oduber hospital to give a sample on 6-12-2005. Anyone truly concerned about the wealth fare of her CHILD would move mountains to help. This is a true insight into why Crystal
does not
have custody.
Prayers for Haleigh
Yes and yes.
Not to hijack the topic but I do recall that about Beth. (And I'm one of the few still thinking and praying that Nat is alive.)
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Re: Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs old missing in Satsuma, Florida last seen 2/9/09 #2
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Quote from: Searching on February 26, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
OMG.... On HLN they just said Detectives ASKED her for a DNA sample and she said no,can not do it,have Dr. appointment and now they can not find her....
She can run but she can't hide, she will be found!
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Quote from: Wyks on February 26, 2009, 05:30:18 PM
Hi Rob, good to see you again!
Hi ya Wyks!!
Good to "see" you again too!!
Hopefully little Haleigh's disappearance will have a much better outcome than Caylee Anthony - I'm hopeful, but not stoopid!
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Quote from: dogmom4 on February 26, 2009, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: Searching on February 26, 2009, 04:49:35 PM
OMG.... On HLN they just said Detectives ASKED her for a DNA sample and she said no,can not do it,have Dr. appointment and now they can not find her....
She can run but she can't hide, she will be found!
Just because LE cannot locate her right away does not mean she is hiding, IMO.
But as Rob said, a mother who does not drop everything to give DNA under these circumstances, well, yeah. A piece of work.
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===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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