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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #40 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:05:09 PM »
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
OK, I keep getting interupted here on the home front.
I'm reading everything, just slowly.
Now, you mean to tell me that Kyle, who was hinting at litigation, is running his mouth at CNG? My, my.
I believe Kyle is the one that needs to grow up
.
I agree memphis.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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January 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM »
Quote from: Blue Moon on January 06, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
OK, I keep getting interupted here on the home front.
I'm reading everything, just slowly.
Now, you mean to tell me that Kyle, who was hinting at litigation, is running his mouth at CNG? My, my. I believe Kyle is the one that needs to grow up.
and continuing with my mean train of thought ......
many who are posting at cng are the very ones that I perceived Kyle was especially arrogant towards, was patronizing of, and treated condescendingly. Open your eyes people!
Memphis, tonight I am proud of myself and my ulcer doesn't hurt. All I had to do is ignore the disruption tonight and move on. Lou is entitled to her opinion as are the rest of us but I don't think she will convince us or we will convince them of our differences. Honest debate is good, anything else is disruptive.
Hi Blue Moon!
I haven't closed my mind. I still have lots of questions and lots of confusion, but I'm
leaning
in a certain direction. More information could push me in the other direction. It's extremely difficult because most of us only have little tidbits of information. We don't have the big picture, or anything close to it. I also want to say that I am trying not to "take sides". Most of us have been here for years. I would venture to say that those still here only want justice for Natalee. I don't believe that
ldstlou
, or any other monkey or bird, is the enemy. All I can deduce is that they have different information than me, or they are being mislead.
Having said all of that, I choose to believe that
ldstlou
wants to maintain a relationship with SM, but she's having a difficult time with all that has transpired.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Quote from: texasmom on January 06, 2009, 09:04:14 PM
That man is up to no good! JMO
That`s Johan Remkes, with Hero Brinkman behind him.
Remkes nominated Paulus to work with ALE . .
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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January 06, 2009, 09:21:30 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 06, 2009, 08:37:45 PM
If ldstlou took offense to my 2 laughing Monkey's i truly do Apologize to Ldstlou.What i was laughing at is that Kyle,who was on the Persistence,as well as Tim Miller who searches for missing people are continuing to be disregarded for people who where not even there.Again.If ldstlou took offense i do apologize!
JMO, but you don't owe anyone an apology. You laughed.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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January 06, 2009, 09:21:56 PM »
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on January 06, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
OK, I keep getting interupted here on the home front.
I'm reading everything, just slowly.
Now, you mean to tell me that Kyle, who was hinting at litigation, is running his mouth at CNG? My, my. I believe Kyle is the one that needs to grow up.
and continuing with my mean train of thought ......
many who are posting at cng are the very ones that I perceived Kyle was especially arrogant towards, was patronizing of, and treated condescendingly. Open your eyes people!
Memphis, tonight I am proud of myself and my ulcer doesn't hurt. All I had to do is ignore the disruption tonight and move on. Lou is entitled to her opinion as are the rest of us but I don't think she will convince us or we will convince them of our differences. Honest debate is good, anything else is disruptive.
Hi Blue Moon!
I haven't closed my mind. I still have lots of questions and lots of confusion, but I'm
leaning
in a certain direction. More information could push me in the other direction. It's extremely difficult because most of us only have little tidbits of information. We don't have the big picture, or anything close to it. I also want to say that I am trying not to "take sides". Most of us have been here for years. I would venture to say that those still here only want justice for Natalee. I don't believe that
ldstlou
, or any other monkey or bird, is the enemy. All I can deduce is that they have different information than me, or they are being mislead.
Having said all of that, I choose to believe that
ldstlou
wants to maintain a relationship with SM, but she's having a difficult time with all that has transpired.
Thanks, you said it better than me. I don't think it is about choosing sides here. I know she has been here from the beginning as have you. I have too I just didn't sign up until much later. Things have changed at SM and maybe that is part of the problem for some. Us newer posters seem to bring out some hostility in some older posters. Believe me I am not here for anything other than Natalee and her family. Everything else is unimportant to me.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #45 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:26:37 PM »
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on January 06, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
OK, I keep getting interupted here on the home front.
I'm reading everything, just slowly.
Now, you mean to tell me that Kyle, who was hinting at litigation, is running his mouth at CNG? My, my. I believe Kyle is the one that needs to grow up.
and continuing with my mean train of thought ......
many who are posting at cng are the very ones that I perceived Kyle was especially arrogant towards, was patronizing of, and treated condescendingly. Open your eyes people!
Memphis, tonight I am proud of myself and my ulcer doesn't hurt. All I had to do is ignore the disruption tonight and move on. Lou is entitled to her opinion as are the rest of us but I don't think she will convince us or we will convince them of our differences. Honest debate is good, anything else is disruptive.
Hi Blue Moon!
I haven't closed my mind. I still have lots of questions and lots of confusion, but I'm
leaning
in a certain direction. More information could push me in the other direction. It's extremely difficult because most of us only have little tidbits of information. We don't have the big picture, or anything close to it. I also want to say that I am trying not to "take sides". Most of us have been here for years. I would venture to say that those still here only want justice for Natalee.
I don't believe that
ldstlou
, or any other monkey or bird, is the enemy. All I can deduce is that they have different information than me, or they are being mislead.
Having said all of that, I choose to believe that
ldstlou
wants to maintain a relationship with SM, but she's having a difficult time with all that has transpired.
1. I used to believe this but my opinion has changed drastically about some old monkeys.
2. They are being brainwashed.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #46 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:30:06 PM »
Quote from: texasmom on January 06, 2009, 09:21:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 06, 2009, 08:37:45 PM
If ldstlou took offense to my 2 laughing Monkey's i truly do Apologize to Ldstlou.What i was laughing at is that Kyle,who was on the Persistence,as well as Tim Miller who searches for missing people are continuing to be disregarded for people who where not even there.Again.If ldstlou took offense i do apologize!
JMO, but you don't owe anyone an apology. You laughed.
Thank You TM.I find it quite interesting how one can simply disregard Kyle's own words!He said them.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #47 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:33:32 PM »
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 06, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 06, 2009, 09:21:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 06, 2009, 08:37:45 PM
If ldstlou took offense to my 2 laughing Monkey's i truly do Apologize to Ldstlou.What i was laughing at is that Kyle,who was on the Persistence,as well as Tim Miller who searches for missing people are continuing to be disregarded for people who where not even there.Again.If ldstlou took offense i do apologize!
JMO, but you don't owe anyone an apology. You laughed.
Thank You TM.I find it quite interesting how one can simply disregard Kyle's own words!He said them.
You see that is my problem as well. Either Kyle was intentionally lying to people at Freebirds knowing that the family would get the information, OR he was telling the truth. Neither is acceptable as far as Kyle's reputation goes.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #48 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:34:08 PM »
Quote from: klaasend on January 06, 2009, 09:05:06 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 06, 2009, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 06, 2009, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: bastibro on January 06, 2009, 08:37:18 PM
Urine is back in the Netherlands for about two weeks now, he flew in via Germany . .
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=_fedPNIua6U&feature=channel_page
That is old video, when he went to Holland after his release in September 2005. IMO
Yes it is TM, they use the old stuff time after time . .
It`s all about what`s being said there
I translated the most important
Except they are implying by that video that it is Joran arriving in Amsterdam in 2009. I don't care what anyone says, I'd prefer some proof more recent than 3 years ago.
I agree. Whoever posted this youtube video (not link to youtube video) as January 2009 is either full of shit(deceitful) or is not following the case too closely. This image is burned in my brain of his extended family, along with dear old DaddySloot transitioning the sporter over to Holland, out of the way, to his long lost extended family way back when...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #49 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:36:30 PM »
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on January 06, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
OK, I keep getting interupted here on the home front.
I'm reading everything, just slowly.
Now, you mean to tell me that Kyle, who was hinting at litigation, is running his mouth at CNG? My, my. I believe Kyle is the one that needs to grow up.
and continuing with my mean train of thought ......
many who are posting at cng are the very ones that I perceived Kyle was especially arrogant towards, was patronizing of, and treated condescendingly. Open your eyes people!
Memphis, tonight I am proud of myself and my ulcer doesn't hurt. All I had to do is ignore the disruption tonight and move on. Lou is entitled to her opinion as are the rest of us but I don't think she will convince us or we will convince them of our differences. Honest debate is good, anything else is disruptive.
Hi Blue Moon!
I haven't closed my mind. I still have lots of questions and lots of confusion, but I'm
leaning
in a certain direction. More information could push me in the other direction. It's extremely difficult because most of us only have little tidbits of information. We don't have the big picture, or anything close to it. I also want to say that I am trying not to "take sides". Most of us have been here for years. I would venture to say that those still here only want justice for Natalee. I don't believe that
ldstlou
, or any other monkey or bird, is the enemy. All I can deduce is that they have different information than me, or they are being mislead.
Having said all of that, I choose to believe that
ldstlou
wants to maintain a relationship with SM, but she's having a difficult time with all that has transpired.
We need a Monkey Counselor (for wounded and emotional monkeys)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #50 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:38:37 PM »
Greta is going to throw it in Mos' face tonight. She is waving the 5 page document.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #51 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:39:06 PM »
Quote from: San on January 06, 2009, 09:26:37 PM
1. I used to believe this but my opinion has changed drastically about some old monkeys.
2. They are being brainwashed.
Blue Moon
~ I thought you'd been posting a long time.
I see posters names and I think, "Did they change their nic?" cuz I don't remember them.
Anyway, I was including you and anyone still here as caring about justice. I'm not in the inner circle, believe me.
San!
Good to se ya. You bring polyana down to earth.
Actually, I do think that ego and the need to fit in, among other things creates lots of problems. I see that all of the time here. I have always cringed whenever someone claims they are on speaking terms with the family. Also, people making lots of disruptive phone calls gets on my nerves. If someone says, "(insert family member here) told me blah, blah, blah", I mark them off my list of posters I respect.
So, yeah, I agree.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #52 on:
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Quote from: klaasend on January 06, 2009, 09:33:32 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 06, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: texasmom on January 06, 2009, 09:21:30 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on January 06, 2009, 08:37:45 PM
If ldstlou took offense to my 2 laughing Monkey's i truly do Apologize to Ldstlou.What i was laughing at is that Kyle,who was on the Persistence,as well as Tim Miller who searches for missing people are continuing to be disregarded for people who where not even there.Again.If ldstlou took offense i do apologize!
JMO, but you don't owe anyone an apology. You laughed.
Thank You TM.I find it quite interesting how one can simply disregard Kyle's own words!He said them.
You see that is my problem as well. Either Kyle was intentionally lying to people at Freebirds knowing that the family would get the information, OR he was telling the truth. Neither is acceptable as far as Kyle's reputation goes.
All i want to know from those that stand behind Kyle is do you believe what he has said?If you do Kyle has a PROBLEM.As smart as he thinks he is i don't think he understood the ramifictaions of what he's gotten himself into.JMOO.I'll eat the crow then bury my head in the sand if i'm wrong!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Quote from: klaasend on January 06, 2009, 09:33:32 PM
You see that is my problem as well. Either Kyle was intentionally lying to people at Freebirds knowing that the family would get the information, OR he was telling the truth. Neither is acceptable as far as Kyle's reputation goes.
Yeppers. You can't get past this. Logic dictates.....
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Quote from: BUCKSHOT on January 06, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
We need a Monkey Counselor (for wounded and emotional monkeys)
BUCKSHOT
~ just bonk me on the head if I get to polyana-ish.
I'm a peacemaker, but not at all costs.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #55 on:
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Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on January 06, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
We need a Monkey Counselor (for wounded and emotional monkeys)
BUCKSHOT
~ just bonk me on the head if I get to polyana-ish.
I'm a peacemaker, but not at all costs.
Memphis,
Don't ever disagree with me. I may cry and tell my mommy on you.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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FYI
Lala's, Hotshot and Ldstlou have not been banned, contrary to what Hotshot and Lala's are trying to tell people. If they are having problems, it's user error.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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Reply #57 on:
January 06, 2009, 09:59:12 PM »
Quote from: San on January 06, 2009, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on January 06, 2009, 08:58:21 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
OK, I keep getting interupted here on the home front.
I'm reading everything, just slowly.
Now, you mean to tell me that Kyle, who was hinting at litigation, is running his mouth at CNG? My, my. I believe Kyle is the one that needs to grow up.
and continuing with my mean train of thought ......
many who are posting at cng are the very ones that I perceived Kyle was especially arrogant towards, was patronizing of, and treated condescendingly. Open your eyes people!
Memphis, tonight I am proud of myself and my ulcer doesn't hurt. All I had to do is ignore the disruption tonight and move on. Lou is entitled to her opinion as are the rest of us but I don't think she will convince us or we will convince them of our differences. Honest debate is good, anything else is disruptive.
Hi Blue Moon!
I haven't closed my mind. I still have lots of questions and lots of confusion, but I'm
leaning
in a certain direction. More information could push me in the other direction. It's extremely difficult because most of us only have little tidbits of information. We don't have the big picture, or anything close to it. I also want to say that I am trying not to "take sides". Most of us have been here for years. I would venture to say that those still here only want justice for Natalee.
I don't believe that
ldstlou
, or any other monkey or bird, is the enemy. All I can deduce is that they have different information than me, or they are being mislead.
Having said all of that, I choose to believe that
ldstlou
wants to maintain a relationship with SM, but she's having a difficult time with all that has transpired.
1. I used to believe this but my opinion has changed drastically about some old monkeys.
2. They are being brainwashed.
Your instincts are always right on, IMO, San.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #791 1/6/09 -
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January 06, 2009, 09:59:46 PM »
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on January 06, 2009, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: memphis on January 06, 2009, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: BUCKSHOT on January 06, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
We need a Monkey Counselor (for wounded and emotional monkeys)
BUCKSHOT
~ just bonk me on the head if I get to polyana-ish.
I'm a peacemaker, but not at all costs.
Memphis,
Don't ever disagree with me. I may cry and tell my mommy on you.
Oh, grow up
BUCKSHOT
, or I"m going to have to beg Klaas to ban me, but only after I call several family members and tell them all about you.
Ahem. Oops! I got confused. Sorry.
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January 06, 2009, 10:05:46 PM »
Obviously there's much going on that I don't know anything about, as usual.
But,
San
, after all we've seen since May 2005, how in the world does someone allow themselves to be brainwashed? No need to answer, but .... sheez.
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===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
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=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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