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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons) => Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin => Topic started by: MuffyBee on July 12, 2012, 10:10:01 PM



Title: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on July 12, 2012, 10:10:01 PM
(http://www.clickorlando.com/image/view/-/10633534/medRes/2/-/maxh/360/maxw/640/-/a3pcufz/-/George-Zimmerman-and-Trayvon-Martin-jpg.jpg) Seminole County Sheriff's Office/Courtesy GlobalGrind.com



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: klaasend on June 14, 2013, 09:14:50 AM
Time for a new thread!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 09:19:06 AM
Time for a new thread!


Thank you Klaas!!    ::jeep3::   ::bee::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 10:31:37 AM
June 13, 2013 Tweets
G29


https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  9m 
BDLR: Tell me about this Phillip file? G-29: "I believe he was probably more favorable towards Mr. Martin." @philipsphile

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  14m 
@philipsphile gave G-29 both sides of the story, not one sided, she says to BDLR, who's probably thinking, "Who is this Philips guy?"

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  18m 
Potential juror G-29, black female, maybe 20s, listens to/got most info about case from The Philips Phile on Real Radio 104.1.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G29


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
be for this case. She says her mother never voiced an opinion and neither did any friends even after Facebook posting. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
G 29 says she posted on Facebook that she got a jury summons "for something to do" but did not know right away it could 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
G29 being questioned by defense, says she posted about her jury summons on Facebook. She says she has lived in Seminole County for 8 mos.
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  24m 
G 29 has no concerns about sequestration. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  24m 
G 29 says she does not know much about the case and did not follow it. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G47


https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  4m 
G-47, white male 20s, maybe 30, restaurant worker 50 hours/week, heard talk it is a self-defense case, cares for at-times-ailing parents


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 11:19:16 AM
The following might be helpful in following the court hearing:

Live Stream
http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html

Twitter
https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone
https://twitter.com/davidovalle305
https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:20:16 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Judge Nelson and lawyers are at the bench having an extended conversation. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman also spoke today saying "yes, your honor" when asked whether he agrees with his attorneys decisions about jury selection.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Judge Nelson clearly doesn't mind working overtime to make sure things go quickly. Says she can work Saturdays and more than eight hours.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Reminder: Frye hearing is being held to determine if prosecution witness who says Trayvon Martin was yelling "stop" can testify at trial.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Don West suggests Frye hearing will continue next Tuesday afternoon at 4 or 5 p.m.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Judge Nelson says she will make time to hear defense expert either on Friday or after potential juror questioning next week at 5 p.m.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Defense attorney Don West says he didn't know Frye hearing could happen during pre-publicity potential juror questioning.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Judge Nelson is asking when defense expert can testify about voice experts for Frye hearing.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Court is now in session. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
K95 who is in second round said she felt like people were trying to make the case into a race issue. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
P67 who also made it to the 2nd round told lawyers he wanted to be on the jury to be involved in a civic duty. He was born in Puerto Rico.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G14 who made it to second round is a middle aged woman who told lawyers she saw news of the case while surfing the Internet at work.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
By my count I have 23 people who have made it to second round of questioning. We need 40 to begin that round of questioning.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
Some people who made it to second round include two potential black jurors who said the case wasn't racially motives.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
That group of potential jurors will be brought back to court on Tuesday at 9 a.m. Safe to say those people made it to second round.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
Group of potential  jurors has been brought into the courtroom Judge is saying they shouldn't discuss the case or consume any info about it

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
There are are about 10 people in the public seating area. About 4 are pastors, one is a journalist and two were here yesterday.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:24:00 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G29 says she saw Facebook posts from people about the shooting but didn't respond because she was "uninformed."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
@DavidOvalle305 Also I agree. He was happy to help in a genuine way.
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G29 says she remembers there was "a lot of racial tension." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
Potential juror G29 is now being questioned by Assistant State Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
There were just 19 people called into the courtroom who have not been questioned yet. They will be back Monday but can't discuss the case.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
This group of potential jurors who have not been questioned will be back Monday at 9 a.m.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
More potential group jurors brought into go courtroom. They haven't been questioned yet.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
B35 an older black man said he enjoyed watching Fox News and Sean Hannity but said he could be fair. He made it to 2nd round.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
@Yamiche CX: P67 was Hispanic. Not sure where he was born.
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
@DavidOvalle305 I stand corrected if you're right. May have mixed him up with N18 and B34.
 View conversation

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
E81, woman who said #TrayvonMartin was heading down "wrong path" & Zimmerman was "protecting his neighborhood" did not make it to 2nd round

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
You can use that list & scroll through my tweets to learn more about who made it to second round of questioning in #GeorgeZimmerman trial.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
Ppl in 2nd round of Q's: B35, B29, B12, B76, B51, B7, B37, B86, B55, E6, E40, E54, E73, M75, B61, B72, E22, E13, E28, K80, K95, P67, & G14.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:25:49 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 36m
G47: "Everybody has something to say about everything." #TrayvonMartin #GeoergeZimmerman

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 38m
G47 is up next. He's a young man with a blue polo shirt.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 39m
Lawyers discussed at bench as usual. Now G29 has left the courtroom.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 45m
Mark O'Mara is done questioning her.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 45m
G29 has only lived in Seminole County for eight months and says she hasn't formed opinion.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 48m
G29 says she posted that she had jury duty on Facebook because it was "something to do."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 50m
G29 says she wouldn't rely on what she's heard from the radio if picked as a juror. She'd only consider evidence in court to make a decision

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 51m
G29 says she stays away from news because everyone has a slant on their presentation.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 53m
G29 says she remembers the radio host she regularly listens suggesting the shooting was "murder" and "racial profiling."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 56m
G29 says she doesn't go to church and again says she didn't form an opinion.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 57m
G29 says she intentionally stayed away from news of the killing. "I don't like to get in involved" in current events, she says.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 59m
@pattymcg I didn't hear or see him so I don't think so.
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G29 says one of her first memories about the case was that there was a shooting and there were talks about gun laws and "racial tension."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
Mark O'Mara, Zimmerman lawyer, is now questioning G29.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G29 says she listens to 104.1 and that radio host she likes was bias toward supporting #TrayvonMartin She adds she could be fair.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
@JeffWeinerOS Hurt a little to read that.
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G29 says her exposure to news about the shooting was "in the very beginning." That's been a theme for some jurors.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1h
G29 says she can be objective and hasn't talked about the case with family members. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 11:26:16 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G47


https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Christina Vazquez Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports  6m 
G47 - The self-described "happy person" getting agitated as continues to answer the same question with same answer: no formulated opinion.

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  6m 
Defense challenging of G-47 may be demographically based. A young, open-minded, caregiver type vs. older, rigid, law-and-order type.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 12m
G47 says he only pays attentions to stories that affect him personally.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 12m
G47 on #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman case: "For me personally, it's nothing more than a local story." Says he didn't pay attention to it.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 15m
G47 says he hasn't talked to his friends about the #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin shooting. They talked about Casey Anthony instead.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 18m
West: Do you think #GeorgeZimmerman is innocent? G47: "I don't have an opinion...That's what we're here to decide, isn't it?"

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 22m
G47 says #GeorgeZimmerman is almost in a worst position as #TrayvonMartin because he's stuck going to court and will be at the whim of jury.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 23m
G47 says it's his job to talk to customers about anything they want.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 25m
Don West is now questioning G47. West explains the different phases of potential juror questioning.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 27m
G47 has just been promoted at his job. "(Jury duty) would be a major hassle," he says but adds he could do it.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 30m
G47 says rallies impacted his life because they shut parts of Sanford down. He looked up information about the shooting as a result.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 34m
G47 says he knows #GeorgeZimmerman is the defendant and "Unfortunately, #TrayvonMartin is not with us anymore."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 37m
G47 says he works 50 hours a week at a restaurant, has dogs and sometimes takes care of parents.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:28:37 AM
July 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G47 says he's heard of the case 15 to 20 times. Adds that he's heard about the case from customers. He serves 500  customers a day, he says.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 7m
G47 says three things he remembers is #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin and "a shooting."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9m
G47 says he sometimes puts Channel 13 on in the background and mutes the television.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:29:41 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 36s
Don West is done questioning G47.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 51s
G47 says restaurant customers were "fairly divided" on their opinions about #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman case.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:31:02 AM
I apologize if it seems I was dumping tweets all the sudden.  I wanted to get them posted so even if someone wanted to go back, they could take a look, especially if they're not able to follow the case otherwise. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/14/3451222/some-jurors-told-to-return-tuesday.html
Some jurors told to return Tuesday morning in Zimmerman trial
June 14, 2013

SANFORD -- At least 23 potential jurors who have already been interviewed by lawyers have made it to the next round of questioning in the George Zimmerman trial.

The group was brought into court Friday morning, and Seminole Circuit Court Judge Debra Nelson told them to return Tuesday. That’s when lawyers may begin grilling them as a group.
 ::snipping3::

Jury selection began Monday. Prosecutors and defense attorneys have individually interviewed 45 possible jurors about their exposure to publicity in the case.

The 23 told to return Tuesday will be part of a group of 40 selected to move to the next round of questioning. In all, six jurors and possibly four alternates will be selected for the final panel.

Among those asked to return: two African Americans who didn’t believe the case was racially motivated, a Mexican-born man eager to serve on a jury for his adopted country and a young arm-wrestling enthusiast who dislikes the news media.

One potential juror likely not moving on to the next round: a woman who was adamant that Zimmerman was defending himself and who described Trayvon as a pot-smoking troublemaker “going down the wrong path.”

Late Thursday, Nelson announced the jury would be sequestered for the trial, which is expected to last two to four weeks.

Friday, Nelson said in court that next week she plans on finishing a hearing to determine how much testimony from audio experts will be allowed during the trial. At issue: a 911 call in which screams during the struggle between Trayvon and Zimmerman can be heard.

Some state audio experts suggest that the screams come from Trayvon, key evidence that could depict Zimmerman as the aggressor. Zimmerman’s defense team is challenging the science the audio experts used to reach their conclusions.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:40:21 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-5-20130614,0,4073321.story
George Zimmerman trial: Day 5 of jury selection in Trayvon Martin shooting
June 14, 2013

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:41:31 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G47 has left the courtroom.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:42:37 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G63 is now being questioned. He's a young man with glasses probably in his 20s or 30s.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:45:35 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
De la Rionda wants G63 to explain what Facebook newsfeed is. G63 starts by saying it's not strictly news.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G63 says he gets most of his news through Facebook but doesn't watch or read much other media sources.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:47:24 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone (https://twitter.com/tonypipitone)

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 6m
Judge tells g-47 "we'll be with you shortly," suggesting he survived any challenge, next potential juror, G-63, white male maybe late 20s-30

 Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports 29m
G47 - The self-described "happy person" getting agitated as continues to answer the same question with same answer: no formulated opinion.
 Retweeted by Tony Pipitone

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 32m
Defense challenging of G-47 may be demographically based. A young, open-minded, caregiver type vs. older, rigid, law-and-order type.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 57m
G-47, white male 20s, maybe 30, restaurant worker 50 hours/week, heard talk it is a self-defense case, cares for at-times-ailing parents.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:48:29 AM
MuffyBee, alagary and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Ain't nobody here but me, 1 Guest & alagary and his chickens.... :smt117


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:49:36 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone (https://twitter.com/tonypipitone)

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1m
Potential juror g-63, young, tuned out Facebooker: "I remember there was something about the Florida (stand you ground) law being weird."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:50:36 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G63 says the shooting was about "some kind of stand your ground law" and he remembers that Florida's law was "weird."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 11:53:25 AM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G63 says he thought jury duty notice said stay away from news. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
If something like this happened in my small town I would not be able to listen to local media or go anywhere without someone mentioning it. For five days all I've heard are liars hoping to get on the jury. Everyone of them is already making plans to hobnob with Barbara Walters and Matt Lauer.

Or maybe they are just idiots.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
June 14 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G63: "I remember there were accusations of racism" by some ... and that "there were some protests."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
G63 says he remembers talking to friends about "gun laws" following the case. Can't remember bringing up #TrayvonMartin or #GeorgeZimmerman

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 8m
G63 says he remembers photographs of #TrayvonMartin and #GeorgeZimmerman . He says he can't quite remember the pictures though.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:06:21 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 31s
G63 on people who "protest everything":  "I don't like any of them."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G63 said in potential juror waiting room people have been discussing how much money to spend on wars. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:07:48 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweet Cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
Prosecutor:  Are you "vacillating" on sides? G63: "What was that word?" #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G63


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
G 63 remembers someone losing a job over this and that people "who protest eveything" protested. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
G 63 says none of his relatives or friends have voiced their opinions about the case. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
G 63 says he has not paid attention to the case much after it happened and heard about stand your ground and self  defense. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  14m 
It appears the judge's ruling on sequestration yesterday might have affected the number of potential jurors still in. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  16m 
G-63 currently explaining how Facebook works to prosecution's de la Rionda. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  17m 
G 63 is up and appears to be a Hispanic man in his 20's


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
June 14, 2014 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
Mark O'Mara is now up questioning G63.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
Prosecutor: Can you handle being sequestered for 2-4 weeks? B63: My birthday is during that time. "I can move the party back."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
Prosecutor: Can you disregard everything in news and weigh evidence presented in court? G63: "I think so."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 14, 2013, 12:18:35 PM
If something like this happened in my small town I would not be able to listen to local media or go anywhere without someone mentioning it. For five days all I've heard are liars hoping to get on the jury. Everyone of them is already making plans to hobnob with Barbara Walters and Matt Lauer.

Or maybe they are just idiots.

Yep, they have their own agendas.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 12:23:11 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G63


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-63 talking about "archetypes," like "bro" & "hipster." Doesn't know anyone who matches archetypes. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Zimmerman trial: Day 5 of jury selection in #TrayvonMartin shooting | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1bDV32N  #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
G-63: I'll be sequestered for my birthday, but "I can move a party back." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  9m 
G-63: Being sequestered isn't a problem, "I'm unemployed right now anyway." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  16m 
G-63: I don't like it "when people accuse other people of being wrong." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  18m 
G-63: "I didn't know anybody who was protesting." Doesn't know if 5 or 50K ppl. "I think it's annoying." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  20m 
G-63: "All I know is there were protests," the same people "seemed to be complaining" whenever something's controversial. #GeorgeZImmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  22m 
G-63: That person fired or resigned because #GeorgeZimmerman "wasn't immediately arrested." Were "accusations of racism." #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  23m 
G-63 heard somebody high-level in Sem. Co. criminal justice fired "for mishandling the case." #TrayvonMartin #GEorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  24m 
G-63 is really struggling with some questions, knows case inspired debate about "gun law." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 57s
G63 says he didn't go to protests and never talked to anyone who even considered going to one.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
@criticjane Thanks!
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G63 says he understands protests and rallies aren't irrelevant to trial.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 5m
O'Mara: Has #TrayvonMartin or #GeorgeZimmerman been made into archetypes? G63: No.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:26:23 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 44s
G63 says usually if he wants news it's national or international. But adds that most of his news is from Facebook.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:27:57 PM
 ::MonkeyEek::  I guess some people are only concerned what happens in their own little backyard.  JMHO

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche
 (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 31s
G63 says he wasn't even interested in the Boston Marathon Bombing. "That doesn't have any impact on my life," he explains.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:33:37 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
G63 says he can't remember details about what stand your ground laws were about.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 5m
O'Mara now asking what G63 has heard about stand your ground laws.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
June 14, 21013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone (https://twitter.com/tonypipitone)

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 16m
O'Mara using "archetype" with a guy who does not know what "vacillate"  means?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
The three things G63 remembers is "gun laws," "self defense," and that shooting happened in Florida.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone (https://twitter.com/tonypipitone)

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3m
To those who think G-63's vocal hesitancy shows deception, please consider he is working with a stuttering problem.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 12:37:34 PM
::MonkeyEek::  I guess some people are only concerned what happens in their own little backyard.  JMHO

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche
 (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 31s
G63 says he wasn't even interested in the Boston Marathon Bombing. "That doesn't have any impact on my life," he explains.
He might only read national news but he doesn't understand it


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 24s
G63 says he is of German, Filipino, Chinese and Spanish heritage.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G63 says he doesn't identify with a particular race. His parents are of mixed backgrounds he says.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G63 says he thinks every time a crime or trial involves people of color some "throw race" into the issue "Doesn't make sense to me," he says


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 12:43:37 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Lunch time. Court in recess until 1:40 p.m. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:44:28 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
Court is now in recess until 1:40 p.m.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G63 questioning is done and has left the courtroom. Lawyers now talking with judge.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
Thank you for posting tweets grace-land.   ::MonkeyKiss::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 12:53:56 PM
Thank you for posting tweets grace-land.   ::MonkeyKiss::

You're welcome, MuffyBee!  You're doing a great job posting today!  Thanks!   ::MonkeyKiss::
I'm multitasking today!   ::monkeydust::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 01:04:55 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: 23 jurors questioned so far were asked to return, here's a list http://bit.ly/11ezXXG  #TrayvonMartin

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-jurors-returning-20130614,0,2383221.story
George Zimmerman trial: 23 jurors questioned this week asked to return Tuesday
12:50 p.m. EDT, June 14, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Here's a list of those jurors asked to come back Tuesday:

• B-35: A middle-aged black man who owns vending business. He was critical of the Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and says this case is not racial.

• B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has seven children and lived in Chicago at time of shooting.

• B-12: A middle-aged white woman who works the graveyard shift. She likes the crime-forensics show CSI and said she'd heard Zimmerman was following Trayvon.

• B-76: A white middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an "altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off."

• B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat, and described herself as a former manager. She knew a good deal about the case, but said "I'm a pretty open-minded person. I'm not rigid in my thinking."

• B-7: A middle-aged white man who listens to NPR. He remembered when Florida implemented its "Stand Your Ground" law and debate then about whether it was needed.

• B-37: A middle-aged white woman who works for a chiropractor and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as "rioting".

• B-86: A white middle-aged woman who works in the office of a middle school and has two grown sons. She said if Trayvon had not been "expelled" from school in Dade County — in actuality he was suspended — "this could have been prevented."

• B-55: A small dark-skinned woman who's a business major at college. She had almost no information about the case except for Facebook posts. "It doesn't concern me."

• E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night: "This kind of thing can happen."

• E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed.

• E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries.

• E-73: A middle-aged white woman active in Sanford's arts community, who is raising her late brother's 15- and 18-year-old children. The media interjected race in this case, she said.

• M-75: A young African-American woman who says many of her friends have opinions on the case, but she doesn't. Some in the black community "feel that they're being targeted," but she said she doesn't feel that way.

• B-61: A young white woman who remembered that "after the protesters, it seemed to turn more into a racial issue. ... I don't think it's a racial issue." She was critical of Al Sharpton.

• B-72: A young man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He had little information about the case, saying he avoids the news because he does not want to be "brainwashed."

• E-22: A middle-aged African-American woman who said that after the shooting Sanford police should have booked Zimmerman and asked him more questions

• E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs. She does not follow the news. She heard the shooting was a "racial thing," but said she did not know if Zimmerman had done something racist.

• E-28: A middle-aged white woman who works as a nurse. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt. Her husband drives her to work so she listens to his radio station, WDBO.

• K-80: A middle-aged white woman with children who has not followed the case. She considers the "racial undertones" in the case "disturbing" and called what happened a "terrible accident."

• K-95: A middle-aged woman who's a full-time college and "IT geek" with two children. She was critical of protests calling for Zimmerman's arrest, describing it as a "commotion."

• P-67: A native of Mexico who seemed eager to serve on the jury. He described it as a civic duty. "Some people think it is a racist thing," he said of the shooting, but he also said "accidents happen."

• G-14: A middle-aged white woman. "I remember a lot of anger, a lot of people upset that Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested immediately." Out-of-town protesters "didn't really know what happened," she said, and created "a discussion that did not need to be had."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:02:02 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G66


https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  7m 
Potential juror G-66, white female, in her 50s maybe, accent sounds Midwestern, pretty heavy news viewer.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:07:39 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
@ESteltzer This case has a lot to do w/ race. I interviewed several lawyers who say race will definitely factor into jury decisions. Thanks.
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 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
G66 says she thought the "law would take care" of the shooting and didn't have an opinion of protests. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 6m
G66 says she heard the actual 911 call made by a resident the night of the shooting.
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 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 6m
G66 says she spoke about the case with family but didn't form an opinion on who was right.

 Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports 18m
Earlier shared what @sybrinafulton had to say on Day 5-attached is a @robertzimmermanjr comment to @yamiche pic.twitter.com/WlFkbtA1gi (http://pic.twitter.com/WlFkbtA1gi)
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor
 View photo

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9m
I'm now using race in my tweets to help people understand more about potential jurors. These are based on my observances. Can be wrong.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 12m
Juror G66 is next up, an older white woman.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 24m
Lawyers are now at the bench talking with Judge Nelson.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 26m
Court is back in session promptly at 1:40.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:08:31 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G66 says she felt sorry for #TrayvonMartin but didn't do any research about the case. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:11:24 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

tinmyheart ‏@tinmyheart 4m
K95 in second round said she felt like people were trying to make the case into a race issue RT @Yamiche: I'm now using race in my tweets

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
@tinmyheart It is a fact that lawyers will take into consideration and experts say they take that into consideration in most cases.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:12:35 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
Don West is now questioning G66.


 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G66: "I have not formed an opinion." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:14:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/SwdP9U9.jpg)
Yamiche Alcindor
@Yamiche
@USATODAY national breaking news reporter currently covering #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman murder case. @Georgetown graduate. Original @MiamiHeat fan.
Washington, D.C. · yamichealcindor.com


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 39s
@ESteltzer Clearly I didn't say we're programmed to think a certain way. It's just a fact that lawyers often take race into consideration.
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 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G66 says every morning she wakes up and turns on the news. Mostly watches Channel 13.


 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G66 retired in 2011 and moved to Central Florida in June 2011. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G66


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
G-66 retired in 2011, moved to Central Florida in June 2011. "I've always looked at the news every day." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
Given BDLR's oft-used car-color hypothetical, G-66 says she'd rely on "what was said in the courtroom." #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR: Have you formed an opinion on #GeorgeZimmerman? G-66: "I have not formed an opinion on either one." #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
BDLR: Sequestration an insurmountable hardship? G-66: "No, sir." BDLR: Amenable? G-66: "Yes, sir." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
Given BDLR's oft-used car-color hypothetical, G-66 says she'd rely on "what was said in the courtroom." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  9m 
G-66 says protests were "definitely" distruptive, but could ignore that at trial. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  11m 
G-66: Neighbor called police to report "scuffle... and then she heard a shot." G-66 has heard audio. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  13m 
1st juror of afternoon: G66: white woman who said when seeing photos of Geo #Zimmerman's injuries: "I felt sorry for him." #Trayvon
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
G-66: A "lot of times the TV might be on" but I'm busy, not watching. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  13m 
BDLR: Believe everything on news? G-66: "Oh, no." Adds: "They're not always truthful, the media." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  14m 
G-66 saw #TrayvonMartin "picture of him with his hoodie on," #GeorgeZimmerman with injuries, "felt sorry for him."

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  16m 
G-66: Family & I "discussed what happened, but none of us" came to conclusion. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Valerie Boey Valerie Boey ‏@vboey  17m 
G66 is a white female in hsr 50s to 60s.#fox35,#georgezimmerman ,#trayvonmartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  17m 
G-66 watches TV news everyday: "Yes I do," local & national. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  19m 
Court resumes. Juror G-66 up next. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:16:45 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G66 also reads the Orlando Sentinel.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 22m
I'm now using race in my tweets to help people understand more about potential jurors. These are based on my observances. Can be wrong.

 Eric Steltzer ABC57 ‏@ESteltzer 19m
@Yamiche Yes because saying what color someone is let's the reader know the type of the person they are. #badjournalism #areyoukiddingme

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 15m
@ESteltzer This case has a lot to do w/ race. I interviewed several lawyers who say race will definitely factor into jury decisions. Thanks.

 Eric Steltzer ABC57 ‏@ESteltzer 3m
@Yamiche Obviously the case has to do with race, but to insinuate all jurors thoughts are influenced by race is foolish and poor journalism

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
@ESteltzer I think it's foolish to ignore that lawyers are taking note of race. I've spoke to several who confirm it will matter. Thanks.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:20:55 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G66 says she remembers seeing a picture of the back of Zimmerman's bloodied head.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G66 says she spends time babysitting grandson. They spend a lot of time watching Barney.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:21:38 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G66


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-66 says she doesn't sit and watch the news, has it on while doing other things. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Zimmerman trial: Day 5 of jury selection in #TrayvonMartin shooting | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14Be31C  #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Also watches @ClickOrlando, @CNN. Just started getting the @OrlandoSentinel recently. "Sent-ten-ial?" #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
G-66 watches @CFNews13, cable goes there automatically when turned on. Several jurors have said that. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:23:18 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Eric Steltzer ABC57 ‏@ESteltzer 6m
@Yamiche Needless to say, I appreciate the attention your giving the trial and the hard work you've put into your coverage. :-)

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
@ESteltzer I appreciate you making me explain because it was a decision I had to think of.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:24:50 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G66


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-66 on protests: "They were protesting because Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested for the shooting." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
G-66: Saw picture of #GeorgeZimmerman's head "and there was blood on the back of his head." #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
G-66 babysits 2 1/2 yr old grandchild: "We watch Barney and other shows." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:24:57 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 37s
G66 says she got the "impression" protests were because #GeorgeZimmerman wasn't arrested. She thought "the law was going to take care of it"


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:32:31 PM


June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G66 says she didn't attend any protests  and says her friends and family have not made comments about the shooting.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
@ESteltzer PS Your picture is amazing.
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G66 says she learned #GeorgeZimmerman was claiming self defense in the media.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G66 says she felt shooting turned into a race issue because it was a "white" and "black" situation.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:33:03 PM
June 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/renestutzman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  20m 
Angela Corey arrives @ #Zimmerman trial. Wearing red. Had been in black all week. Sits in front row of gallery. #Trayvon



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:33:58 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
Don West is done questioning G66.

 Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 29m
Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda loves using a fictional scenario regarding red car vs. blue car to ask if they differentiate fact/not
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G66 says she remembers 911 call and the "franticness" of the resident's voice.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:37:01 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/chris-rock-george-zimmerman-can-eat-a-dick_n_3442317.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&ir=Crime
Chris Rock Says 'George Zimmerman Can Eat A D*ck' On 'Totally Biased With W. Kamau Bell' (VIDEO)
June 14, 2013

Video


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:38:16 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G66 has left the courtroom.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
Potential jurors talk about the fear in the 911 caller's voice. We usually report about the voice screaming for help in the background.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
June 14, Tweets cont
G81


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
G 81 is a middle aged African American man. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-5-20130614,0,4073321.story
George Zimmerman trial: Day 5 of jury selection in Trayvon Martin shooting
Zimmerman's trial began Monday in Sanford.

June 14, 2013

SANFORD - George Zimmerman is in court this afternoon to continue the fifth day of jury selection for his second-degree murder trial in the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The first four days in Zimmerman's trial focused on pretrial publicity — what jurors know, and how they feel, about the Miami Gardens teen's death — and attorneys have continued questioning potential jurors on that today

The first juror called for questioning this afternoon, a white retiree identified as juror G-66, said she watches the news every day, but doesn't think the media is "always truthful."
More...

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G81 is up next. He's a young black man with glasses who says he likes watching MSNBC.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:45:49 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
SCSO confirms former juror was tresspassed from courthouse today. Several outlets report it's E-7, the one dismissed over Facebook posts.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
G-81 has seen photos: #GeorgeZimmerman 2005 orange-jumpsuit mug, #TrayvonMartin in burgundy t-shirt.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@artistofideas Just saw that. Looking into it. Thanks!
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Next juror up, G-81, watches @WFTV local. @MSNBC, @CNN & @FoxNews national. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 6m
G81 is a black male 30 to 40s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:46:39 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G81


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
SCSO confirms former juror was tresspassed from courthouse today. Several outlets report it's E-7, the one dismissed over Facebook posts.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-81 has seen photos: #GeorgeZimmerman 2005 orange-jumpsuit mug, #TrayvonMartin in burgundy t-shirt.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@artistofideas Just saw that. Looking into it. Thanks!
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Next juror up, G-81, watches @WFTV local. @MSNBC, @CNN & @FoxNews national. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Valerie Boey Valerie Boey ‏@vboey  5m 
G81 is a black male 30 to 40s.#fox35
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
MuffyBee!  Same post above! ^^^  ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
Posting this as clarification of a tweet that had part of the conversation hidden:

June 14, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

BOKE [name/brand] ‏@artistofideas 10m
cc @JeffWeinerOS (re juror who was caught lying about FB) https://twitter.com/natalietolomeo/status/345604700378374145 … [not sure if that means anything, or if you've noticed]

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
@artistofideas Just saw that. Looking into it. Thanks!
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 44s
G-81: Protests were "people excercising their rights to free speech." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
G-81 says the media biases he percieved didn't shape his opinion. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Dana Chaaban ‏@sheafferlegal 8m
E7 trespassing on courthouse after demanding to know how his FB post, disqualifying him from service, was made public #zimmermanon9
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
G-81: "To me it seems as thought the pendulum changes" with media. Bias against #GeorgeZimmerman 1st, later #TrayvonMartin.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
SCSO confirms former juror was tresspassed from courthouse today. Several outlets report it's E-7, the one dismissed over Facebook posts.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
G-81 has seen photos: #GeorgeZimmerman 2005 orange-jumpsuit mug, #TrayvonMartin in burgundy t-shirt.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G81 says he got the impression that a special prosecutor was brought in because someone "dropped the ball."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81 says people were just exercising free speech through demonstrations but he didn't go.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G81 said some thought what happened to Trayvon was "typical," while others took different view.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
G81 says it seemed media was bias in support of Martin and then later bias in support of Zimmerman.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 7m
G81 says he remembers Zimmerman's mugshot and a picture of a young Martin in a jersey. Says he didn't form an opinion though.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 10m
G81 says news would often pop up while he was on Yahoo. He periodically watched news about the shooting.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
BRB, going to go get a couple of Aleve.  Too early for a  ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 02:53:26 PM
Not from twitter, it's a reply on Orlando Sentinal chat;
Based on reports, E-7 was upset that media outlet have been hounding him since his name was published (don't know who did that first). Wants to know how his name got out. Haven't gotten anything from officials yet.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:57:47 PM
Not from twitter, it's a reply on Orlando Sentinal chat;
Based on reports, E-7 was upset that media outlet have been hounding him since his name was published (don't know who did that first). Wants to know how his name got out. Haven't gotten anything from officials yet.

Thanks alagary.  I don't find is surprising E-7's been hounded by media outlet.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
BRB, going to go get a couple of Aleve.  Too early for a  ::monkeywine2::
My clock must be wrong.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G81 says he watches Bill O'Reilly but can't remember any things the host has said about the shooting.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
Mark O'Mara now asking questions about G81 watching MSNBC.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 02:59:23 PM
BRB, going to go get a couple of Aleve.  Too early for a  ::monkeywine2::
My clock must be wrong.

 ::MonkeyDevil:: 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:00:44 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G81


https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-81: Says he watches The Ed Show on @MSNBC, Bill O'Reilly on @FoxNews. Doesn't remember O'Reilly's take. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
G-81: No fixed opinions on guilt or innocence of #GeorgeZImmerman. #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
G-81: "I find that people that tend to make comments on the internet... (are) very mean-spirited..." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  10m 
G-81: Protests were "people excercising their rights to free speech." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
G-81 says the media biases he percieved didn't shape his opinion. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
G-81: I've heard "there was a disagreement, there was a fight," mentions "stand your ground" law debate. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
G-81: Says he watches The Ed Show on @MSNBC, Bill O'Reilly on @FoxNews. Doesn't remember O'Reilly's take. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
G-81: No fixed opinions on guilt or innocence of #GeorgeZImmerman. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
G-81: "I find that people that tend to make comments on the internet... (are) very mean-spirited..." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
G-81: Protests were "people excercising their rights to free speech." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
G-81 says the media biases he percieved didn't shape his opinion. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Dana Chaaban ‏@sheafferlegal 20m
E7 trespassing on courthouse after demanding to know how his FB post, disqualifying him from service, was made public #zimmermanon9
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
G-81: "To me it seems as thought the pendulum changes" with media. Bias against #GeorgeZimmerman 1st, later #TrayvonMartin.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
SCSO confirms former juror was tresspassed from courthouse today. Several outlets report it's E-7, the one dismissed over Facebook posts.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:04:36 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 45s
G81 says he was in the middle regarding opinion of the case and issues surround it.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81 says initial gut reaction was that it was a tragedy and sad.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
G81 says he remembers many questions and stories about stand your ground laws following shooting.

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
G-81: "Gut reaction" was "tragedy;" #TrayvonMartin was dead, #GeorgeZimmerman facing "at least the media, and maybe a court trial."
Expand   Reply  Retweet  Favorite   More
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
G-81 on "stand your ground," there were "a lot of questions about that particular law." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/deputies-escort-dismissed-george-zimmerman-juror-from-courthouse/-/1637132/20575140/-/oyd2jo/-/index.html
Deputies escort dismissed George Zimmerman juror from courthouse
Jerry Counelis, 55, eliminated from jury pool after defense finds 2012 Facebook post

June 14, 2013


(http://i.imgur.com/EzvSleA.jpg)

A  previously dismissed potential juror in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial was escorted off courthouse property by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office on Friday and warned he could be arrested for trespassing if he returns.

SCSO tells Local 6 they "trespassed one of the dismissed jurors" from courthouse property.

The potential juror, 55-year-old unemployed painter and guitar player Jerry Counelis, was eliminated from the jury pool on Wednresday after defense attorneys found a posting from him on a Facebook page from 2012.
Counelis was at the courthouse on Friday during the lunch hour complaining about his anonymity and saying he is hiring an attorney. He was trespassed by authorities after about 30 minutes.

The March 21, 2012 posting in question was on the Facebook page called "The Coffee Party Progressive," a political Facebook page that posted a comment calling for "justice for Trayvon."

Counelis told attorneys that he only decided Zimmerman should have been arrested after Zimmerman was arrested. The posting was found on Facebook more than two weeks before Zimmerman was arrested.
More...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:09:11 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81 says he's from Miami and discussed the case with family who lives in Miami. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
Mark O'Mara: Have you watched Rev. Al Sharpton's show? G81: "I've caught bits and pieces." G81 knows Sharpton thinks it's an injustice.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:11:27 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G81 says he and his family wondered if shooting was bigger than other shootings of black men.

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 37s
G-81: Family & friends "not blaming anyone in this scenario... it's a news event that's particularly close to them." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81 says he lives less than half a mile from where shooting happened. He and his friends wondered why they didn't hear anything that night


June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.

https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
G-81: Don't know if case divided Sanford, or "if it's something that has already been in Sanford." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
G81: I grew up in Miami. I live less than half mile from shooting scene. It became "a media circus." #Trayvon, #Zimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:15:01 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G81


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Within a half mile from where it happened. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
G 81 says he was struck by the delay in the shooting being reported and not hearing helicopters that night. He lives 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
G 81 says he's from the same area as where Trayvon Martin was from meaning South Florida. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  16m 
G 81 says some comments were mean-spirited and he did not get involved in that. He says he has no interest in writing a book! #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  18m 
RT @RHughesWFTV: #SeminoleCounty SO says E7 given trespass warning. He answered his phone when I called, so no arrest. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:15:56 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G81 says media coverage also hasn't affected youth in Sanford. He works at a school.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81 says media presentations did not affect his perception of the case.


June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
G-81 says #TrayvonMartin looked 14 or 15 to him in photo he saw. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 58s
G81 says he remembers picture of Trayvon Martin with a burgundy Hollister shirt. He guesses Martin was 14 or 15 in picture.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:20:35 PM
The digital book is $3.99, per the article.

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/6/14/george_zimmerman_s_f.html
George Zimmerman's father releases book
June 14, 2013

(http://i.imgur.com/O6I9JHo.jpg)

SANFORD --
Robert Zimmerman has released a book on the arrest of his son George who is on trial for the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch volunteer, is pleading not guilty to second-degree murder, claiming he shot Martin in self-defense.

"Florida v. Zimmerman: Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of my Son, George" was released in digital format on Wednesday.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
G-81: African American males "killed at a much higher rate." Death by violence "typical." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
G-81: When someone dies, "no matter what circumstance, it's very hard." Death = "extremely tragic." #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:22:43 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81: "It's typical that African Americans are going to lose their life through violence." Says he knows that through experience not news.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:24:03 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
G-81: Shooting happened Feb. 26, but media coverage didn't come until after "uproar" started. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
G-81 said violence against African American males dates back to slavery, Jim Crow. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:24:55 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G81 says he didn't hear about the shooting until an "uproar occurred" and media started covering it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G81 says he remembers Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch and that Martin was visiting his dad during All Star weekend.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:32:22 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
G-87 is next up. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Zimmerman trial: Day 5 of jury selection in #TrayvonMartin shooting | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11eoIOT (http://bit.ly/11eoIOT)  #GeorgeZimmerman

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G87 says she works in a school near where shooting happened. She has two jobs and watches little television.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
G87 is up next. She's a middle aged white woman with shoulder length brown hair and a black blazer.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:33:29 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont. (http://June 14, 2013 Tweets cont.)
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 2m
G87 is a white female 30 to 40 yrs old. Works near where shooting happened. #fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
G-87 heard about the case "at work... That day I followed up." Works near where shooting happened. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:34:37 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51s
G-87: This is my first time on jury duty. "It's been spectacular." Laughter in the courtroom. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
G-87 says she saw pic of #GeorgeZimmerman: "There were cuts on the back of his head." #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:36:21 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 59s
G-87: "I think the media usually blows things out of proportion." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
Prosecutor: How's jury duty going? G87: "It's been spectacular." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:37:55 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
G-87: "I wasn't present at the location, I wasn't a part of it.. not something I can make a judgment about." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G87 says people at her job discussed opinions but they were told not to discuss it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:39:03 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Diana Tennis ‏@TennisLaw 3m
Breaking news: hard working news media manhandled by umpteenth juror and may need to be held gently this weekend.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweet   (I threw this one in here because alagary brought this up before.  Yeah.  )
https://twitter.com/unspokenPoet1 (https://twitter.com/unspokenPoet1)

UnspokenPoet ‏@UnspokenPoet1 9m
It seems like everyone in the town which was the centre of worldwide press was living under a rock when #GeorgeZimmerman shot #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
G-87: "I think that the rallies were about people wanting justice." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
G-87: "I know there were rallies... I'm not sure what I thought about them." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman



June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
"I think the rallies were about people wanting justice," G87 says.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:44:46 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53s
G-87: Shooting was "Mr. Zimmerman and a teenage boy." Facts of case? "That I don't have any idea about." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:45:18 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G87


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-87: Shooting was "Mr. Zimmerman and a teenage boy." Facts of case? "That I don't have any idea about." #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
G-87: "I think that the rallies were about people wanting justice." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
G-87: "I know there were rallies... I'm not sure what I thought about them." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:50:23 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G87


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
G-87 said she saw "a makeshit memorial," which she saw as a tribute. Stuffed animals, balloons. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 03:50:48 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/deputies-escort-dismissed-george-zimmerman-juror-from-courthouse/-/1637132/20575140/-/oyd2jo/-/index.html
Deputies escort dismissed George Zimmerman juror from courthouse
Jerry Counelis, 55, eliminated from jury pool after defense finds 2012 Facebook post

June 14, 2013


(http://i.imgur.com/EzvSleA.jpg)

A  previously dismissed potential juror in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial was escorted off courthouse property by the Seminole County Sheriff's Office on Friday and warned he could be arrested for trespassing if he returns.

SCSO tells Local 6 they "trespassed one of the dismissed jurors" from courthouse property.

The potential juror, 55-year-old unemployed painter and guitar player Jerry Counelis, was eliminated from the jury pool on Wednresday after defense attorneys found a posting from him on a Facebook page from 2012.
Counelis was at the courthouse on Friday during the lunch hour complaining about his anonymity and saying he is hiring an attorney. He was trespassed by authorities after about 30 minutes.

The March 21, 2012 posting in question was on the Facebook page called "The Coffee Party Progressive," a political Facebook page that posted a comment calling for "justice for Trayvon."

Counelis told attorneys that he only decided Zimmerman should have been arrested after Zimmerman was arrested. The posting was found on Facebook more than two weeks before Zimmerman was arrested.
More...
He does have a point about leaking his name but these kids today can find out all about whoever they want to with the slightest clue, His name was on the web in a 1/2 hour after he was dismissed.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G86


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
G-87 on memorial: "I thought it was tragic that somebody had died, but I didn't really make anything of it." #TrayvonMartin



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G86


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
G-87 on memorial: "I thought it was tragic that somebody had died, but I didn't really make anything of it." #TrayvonMartin



Correction G87


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
G87 may work at the school that's directly across the street from Retreat at Twin Lakes.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 5m
G87 says she saw memorials for Martin. Saw people on tour buses come to visit memorial to Martin.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 6m
Don West is asking questions now.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 03:59:40 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G87


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
RT @sheafferlegal: Lawyers fear disclosing too much and delving into Juror 87s work site proximity to scene of shooting #zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
G-87, WF middle-aged, worked across the street from where the shooting happened, can see #TrayvonMartin memorial from there


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
G87


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
G-87 got the thank-you-for-your-service goodbye from the judge, probably dismissed.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 04:06:37 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
H6

 
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
H-6 heard the 911 call, heard talk about the "stand your ground" law. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Valerie Boey Valerie Boey ‏@vboey  2m 
H6 is a white male 30 to 40 yrs old.#fox35

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
H-6 is on Facebook about once a week, watched news on case "when it first happened," "trailed off." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
New juror is H-6: Questionnaire said "I don't know that it is self defense because I don't know much about the details." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:09:06 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 21s
H6 says he was curious about the case and remembers discussions about stand your ground.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
H6 says he remembers hearing @rzimmermanjr George Zimmerman's brother on the radio.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 5m
H6 says what he knows is from the beginning of the case, shortly after the shooting.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 6m
H66 say he heard a lot about stand your ground laws and 911 call.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 7m
H6 is up next up. He consumes local and national news.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9m
Questioning of G87 ended abruptly after lawyers discussed something at the bench.
 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 10m

Father of George Zimmerman has released an e-book.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DE19P3K/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?keywords=robert%20zimmerman%2C%20Florida&qid=1371182470&ref_=sr_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1 …

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 18m
G87 may work at the school that's directly across the street from Retreat at Twin Lakes.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 19m
G87 says she saw memorials for Martin. Saw people on tour buses come to visit memorial to Martin.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 21m
Don West is asking questions now.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 04:11:45 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
H6


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
H-6 on media: "It was all slanted toward" #TrayvonMartin early on, but now it's "balanced out." #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
H-6: "I'm sure I had friends that went one way or the other" on case, but don't remember what they said. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@GobbyGertie Unclear. They'd revealed a lot about where she worked, could be worries about her being IDed.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
H-6 says he hasn't formed an opinion on the case. Heard #GeorgeZimmerman's call to police, reporting #TrayvonMartin as "someone suspicious."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H6
https://twitter.com/yamiche
 (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
H6 says he would believe witnesses over media who sometimes "has an agenda."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
H6 says he heard Martin may have attacked Zimmerman. Adds that media was slanted toward support of Martin being right.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont
H6

https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
Mark O'Mara now questioning H6.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
@ahrcanum If I see any pro Zimmerman signs outside I'll take photos of them. I haven't so far.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
Posting more of the "conversation" tweet for clarification. 

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

ahrcanum ‏@ahrcanum 10m
@Yamiche Noticed all 3 of your pix re trial are anti Zimmerman. Fair and balanced?

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
@ahrcanum If I see any pro Zimmerman signs outside I'll take photos of them. I haven't so far.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:20:57 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 17s
O'Mara: Do you think "media bias" was fair to #GeorgeZimmerman? H6: No. They didn't have all the facts.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
H6 thinks the media was bias because all the talk was about a "white man" who shot a "black man."

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
Mark O'Mara now questioning H6.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
H6


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
@KariWrites It's a public record. Was sent to every media outlet in town.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
PDF: Here's the trespass from today for juror dismissed from the #GeorgeZimmerman trial earlier this week http://twitdoc.com/246A

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
H-6 on witnesses: "I'd believe what they said" over "media that sometimes slants it to fit their agenda." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:28:20 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H6

https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 40s
H6 says he remembers talks of stand your ground, 911 call of resident and #GeorgeZimmerman call to police.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
H6 says his friends' opinions didn't weigh on him.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
H6 says he can be rely only on evidence presented. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:31:31 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H6

https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 52s
O'Mara is done questioning H6.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
H6 says he needs to close on his home but that he's travelled and been away from family in the past. He can handle sequestration.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
H6: #GeorgeZimmerman "sounded like he was concerned about his neighborhood."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 04:33:46 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
H6


https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
H-6 on #GeorgeZimmerman in non-emergency call: "He sounded like he was concerned about his neighborhood." #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
@blakesurerus That's what other outlets are reporting, yes.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
@KariWrites On second thought, it's a fair point. Gonna pull tweet down.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
O'Mara: Have you decided if a crime occurred? H-6: "That I don't know." #trayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont. (Posting these because they've been hidden conversation)
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Blake Surerus ‏@blakesurerus 11m
@JeffWeinerOS Was this the potential juror that made the comments on the Coffee Party Facebook Page?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@blakesurerus That's what other outlets are reporting, yes.


And

Kari Cobham, WFTV ‏@KariWrites 14m
@jeffweineros Wow. Shouldn't you redact his personal information before posting?


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
@KariWrites On second thought, it's a fair point. Gonna pull tweet down.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
And now, back to our regular program.... ::bee::

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 12m
Score some politeness points for the South. Juror H6 is a "No, sir" responder.
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
Lawyers and Judge Nelson are discussing at the bench still. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
@gtoppo I do! And I will sleep better when the @MiamiHEAT win.
 View conversation

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
Parents of #TrayvonMartin are not currently in the courtroom. Not sure when they left. Their lawyers are still here.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 04:43:31 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont
H6


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Attorneys are at the judge's bench in discussion. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
H-6 says he's about to close on his house and serving on the jury may throw a monkey wrench in that. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:51:45 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 44s
Mark O'Mara is now chatting with #TrayvonMartin family attorney @attorneycrump I think defense still needs to depose him.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
There seems to be a heated discussion going on at Judge Nelson's bench.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 5m
For those wondering there are 14 benches in the courtroom. Two are reserved for family members. Four are for media.

 Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman 8m
One of the women who assists Defense attorneys has to refill a glass pitcher with water about twice a day. Prosecution has water bottles.
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9m
So far lawyers have questioned seven potential jurors by my count--three women and four men.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:56:38 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
Those seven potential jurors will be back on Monday at 9 a.m. for questioning.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
Seven potential jurors have been brought into courtroom. Lawyers haven't questioned them yet. Nelson telling them not to discuss case.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 8s
G29, a young black woman who said she heard information about the case on the radio made it.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 50s
G63 who says he doesn't identify with a particular race has made it to the second round.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
The potential jurors questioned today who were kept for 2nd round of questioning are: G29, G47, G63, G66, G81, and H6.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche now
Court is in recess until Monday at 9 a.m.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 38s
By made it I mean these jurors made it to round two of questioning.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
G81 a young black man from Miami who said some ppl thought death of #TrayvonMartin was "typical" made it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  2m 
All the #Zimmerman jurors interviewed today, except the woman who worked across from shooting scene, to come back Tues. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
That's now 29 people coming back on Tuesday. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Returning Tuesday, & likely on to next stage, people we heard from today: G-29, G-47, G-63, G-66, G-81, H-6. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Nelson now talking to more jurors who they didn't get to, asks them to come back Monday at 9 a.m. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara talks to #TrayvonMartin family attorney Benjamin Crump pic.twitter.com/Br4foLaqOt

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMv6UTxCYAANiwm.jpg)




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 05:18:27 PM
https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=JeffWeinerOS

 Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
O'Mara: "I would have thought that there were more people who had more information about this case." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
less than 5 seconds ago

 Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
O'Mara: "Thank God" that "potential steath juror" was "uncovered before it got worse." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimemrman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2m
"We have to trust" that jurors will tell us the truth, says O'Mara.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 3m
O'Mara says jury might be picked by next week. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 5m
O'Mara says Frye hearing will continue on Monday at 4 p.m.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 8m
"It causes me great concern that we have to redouble" our efforts for jurors to come, O'Mara says.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 9m
O'Mara says he's happy juror who made Facebook post was found out by defense. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 11m
O'Mara: "He's been waiting for 16 months" for process to start. "Now it's real and very stressful." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 12m
O'Mara says for system to survive this case jurors must be open and honest.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 13m
Mark O'Mara says he's enthused that they will be able to pick a jury in Seminole County jury for a Seminole County case.

 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 18m
Mark O'Mara is going to have a press conference in a few minutes.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 05:27:26 PM
June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/yamiche (https://twitter.com/yamiche)
Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 1m
Court official: 28 people have made it to second round of questioning. 40 are needed for regular questioning to begin.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Just posting these to catch us up. 

June 14, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: Judges Frye hearing ruling on audio experts could mean "about a week" difference in trial time. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara says he had quick convo with Crump on depo (as screengrabbed by yours truly). Hopes to get it done soon. #GeorgeZimemrman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
O'Mara: Frye hearing to continue Monday at 4 p.m. Will take three hours. State rebuttal maybe Tuesday. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
O'Mara says heard E-7 was trying to "get to" jurors at courthouse today: "That's devastating to this process." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
O'Mara: "I would have thought that there were more people who had more information about this case." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
O'Mara: "Thank God" that "potential steath juror" was "uncovered before it got worse." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimemrman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
O'Mara makes reference to "steath juror," likely E-7, calls such jurors "unbelievably dangerous." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
O'Mara: As long as juror agress to rely on "facts in the courtroom," they're ok. #TrayvonMartin #GEorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
O'Mara: Could get to group phase of jury selection Tuesday or Wednesday. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
O'Mara: "If we're going to survive this as a criminal justice system" must ensure "jury verdict is believeable" & trusted. #GeorgeZimemrman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
O'Mara says "it's going well, we're making good progress." Jurors honest "for the most part." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
O'Mara: "Certainly we're enthused," calls it a good week & they're going to get a jury in Seminole. #TrayvonMartiN #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
Zimmerman trial: Day 5 of jury selection in #TrayvonMartin shooting ends | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14BuxGX (http://bit.ly/14BuxGX)  #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

  myfoxorlando ‏@MyFoxOrlando 26m
George Zimmerman's lawyer is expected to make a statement to the press shortly. We'll have it live on #fox35 @jorgekgonzalez


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 14, 2013, 05:34:29 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/in-zimmerman-case-potential-jurors-seem-largely-uninterested/2013/06/13/a70772ee-d441-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html
Quirk of the court: Zimmerman jury pool doesn’t seem to prioritize news
June 13, 2013


SANFORD, Fla. — The woman sounds middle-aged and weary of sweating the small stuff, like her perm has wilted and so what, okay? In a strained voice, she answers questions about her engagement with the world. When asked if she has read newspaper articles about the George Zimmerman case, potential juror B37 says: “Newspapers are used in the parrot’s cage.”

The court reporter, risking a misplaced apostrophe, does not clarify whether B37 has more than one parrot.
Prosecutor Bernardo de la Rionda starts to ask if B37 — one of 500 potential jurors summoned for State of Florida v. George Zimmerman — reads the newspapers before laying them —

“No,” she says firmly, and then: “I have no time to do anything other than feed my animals.”

She has “too many” animals. The parrot. Or parrots. A 15-year-old crow with one wing. Three dogs, four cats, a “coupla” lizards.

But what does she recall hearing about the case?

“Just that there was a death.”

Do you remember who?

“Trayvon Martin.”

How would you describe him?

“He was a boy of color, I believe, of teenage years.”

What did you hear about George Zimmerman?

“Just heard that he was involved in a scuffle. It was late at night. And the boy was killed.”

And what did you think about this?

“I thought it was very unfortunate that somebody died. That’s why you have a jury.”

Jury selection is really jury deselection. Attorneys don’t pick jurors. They strike them until they have, in this instance, a panel of six with four alternates.

The candidates for the jury that will decide Zimmerman’s fate are anonymous for now — just voices if you’re watching online, just normal-looking folks if you’re in Courtroom 5D of the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center — but their testimony is oddly personal and revealing. Revealing about how America views this case, or how Americans prioritize their lives. Revealing about the state of American eccentricity, maybe, or about the state of Florida.

Potential Juror B27 remembers the moment he first heard about Trayvon’s death because he was riding high after completing a one-armed pull-up at the gym, where he trains for power-lifting and arm-wrestling competitions, and the news brought him down.

“Left- or right-handed?” de la Rionda asks on Wednesday.

“Both,” says B27, a maintenance technician.

Who is this guy?

More...



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 14, 2013, 06:21:41 PM
30 acres, 2 dogs, a duck, 40 chickens , keep up deer plots, and do a little welding on the side. I still find time to relax and keep up with the news. These people are LIARS!

Or like I said before, IDIOTS! 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 14, 2013, 06:36:49 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/6/14/george_zimmerman_tri.html

29 jurors retained, 26 still need to be questioned
(June 14, 2013)

Lawyers interviewed seven potential jurors Friday and 41 overall since jury selection began Monday.

Six from Friday's group were asked to return Tuesday, along with 23 jurors retained earlier in the week for a total of 29 jurors retained for the second round of voir dire questioning.

Judge Debra Nelson also ordered 26 jurors who have yet to be questioned to return Monday. Lawyers want a pool of 40 before they move on to round two of juror interviews.

As court began Friday, the judge asked the defense about their last voice expert witness, so they can complete a Frye hearing regarding expert testimony about who was screaming in a 911 call made by a witness of the 2012 shooting.

The judge incidated the Frye hearing could happen one evening next week after regular jury selection. The defense's expert lives in California, so a 5 p.m. Frye hearing would mean it's 2 p.m. on the West Coast.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 15, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
http://www.kiiitv.com/story/22599413/in-trayvon-martin-case-historys-ghosts-linger
In Trayvon Martin case, history's ghosts linger
June 15, 2013



Focus on the details, and the cases seem very different. One was killed by virulent white racists, the other by a part-Hispanic neighborhood watchman who insists he faced a vicious attack. One was weighted down and dumped in a river; in the other case, police were called by the shooter himself.

Six decades and myriad details separate the deaths of Emmett Till and Trayvon Martin, two black teenagers felled by violence. Yet in the way America reacted to Martin's death - and the issues that echoed afterward - his case has created a national racial conversation in the much same manner as the saga of Till, infamously murdered in 1955 for flirting with a white woman.

Plenty of people do not see the Martin case as about race at all. But for others who study America's racial past and present, each killing is a defining moment for its era - a fraught microcosm of what we are, and what we are trying to become.

"Trayvon Martin is today's race case," says Christopher Darden, a prosecutor in the O.J. Simpson murder trial, another defining American moment. "I don't know that anybody can really sit there and objectively look at the evidence. It arrives with so many different kinds of emotions."

Just as the Till saga remains a searing archetype of the brutal segregation that gave rise to the civil rights movement, the Martin case captures the ambiguous meanings of race in America at a time when both the president and the lowest segments of society are black.

Emmett Till showed what needed to be done in 1955. Now, Trayvon Martin reveals to us the racial landscape of 2013.

"Trayvon Martin certainly is the Emmett Till of the hoodie generation," says Michael Skolnik, a board member of The Trayvon Martin Foundation and president of GlobalGrind.com.

"This case represents so much for our country," Skolnik says. "It represents issues of race, issues of police priorities for different communities. It represents the status of young black men in America."
 ::snipping3::

"I've been doing work around police brutality and racial hate crimes for over 20 years, but I've never seen one resonate with so many people like the Trayvon Martin situation," says Kevin Powell, president of the advocacy group BK Nation and editor of "The Black Male Handbook: A Blueprint for Life."

"He became this symbolic figure for how much has not changed in America in spite of a black man being in the White House," Powell says.

To some, the Martin-Zimmerman case is about media distortion when it comes to race. Some view it through the prism of whether Florida's "stand-your-ground" law is legitimate.



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And for others, the case symbolizes that black people see racism when there is no evidence of it.

"I reject the idea that this happened specifically because of color," says Mychal Massie, a columnist and former chairman of the black conservatives leadership group Project 21.

"I'm not saying that Martin deserved to be shot," Massie says. "I'm also not saying he was a paragon of virtue. Indications are he was not singled out because he was black. He was singled out because he was there, Zimmerman was doing his job as a neighborhood watchperson, and he saw a stranger."

Massie strenuously objects to any comparison between Till and Martin. Till, Massie says, died in "a different time."

There certainly is no comparison between the killers, or the circumstances surrounding their actions: Two white men abducted the 14-year-old Till, pistol-whipped and shot him, then dumped him in a river with a weight barb-wired around his neck. Zimmerman, whose father is white and mother is from Peru, identifies himself as Hispanic. He says he fired in self-defense because he was being viciously beaten by Martin.
 ::snipping3::
For Massie, the significance of the Martin case is simple: Black males commit a disproportionate percentage of crimes. "What it shows," he says, "is the continued predilection for misbehavior by so many young urban people, regardless of color."

"The tragedy of Trayvon Martin is that, if as many of us believe he initiated this assault, he paid the ultimate price for a bad decision," Massie says.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Amys Sister on June 15, 2013, 02:25:11 PM
30 acres, 2 dogs, a duck, 40 chickens , keep up deer plots, and do a little welding on the side. I still find time to relax and keep up with the news. These people are LIARS!

Or like I said before, IDIOTS! 

I agree, some of them are softballing their knowledge of the case but my husband abhors the news and avoids topics about anything in the news so this could be true of at least some of the jurors as well.

Also, we watch very little tv and never watch news channels.  I'm just waiting for a potential juror to say they get their case info from Scared Monkeys   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 15, 2013, 05:06:31 PM
30 acres, 2 dogs, a duck, 40 chickens , keep up deer plots, and do a little welding on the side. I still find time to relax and keep up with the news. These people are LIARS!

Or like I said before, IDIOTS! 

I agree, some of them are softballing their knowledge of the case but my husband abhors the news and avoids topics about anything in the news so this could be true of at least some of the jurors as well.

Also, we watch very little tv and never watch news channels.  I'm just waiting for a potential juror to say they get their case info from Scared Monkeys   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 15, 2013, 05:26:32 PM
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/deputies-escort-dismissed-george-zimmerman-juror-from-courthouse/-/1637132/20575140/-/oyd2jo/-/index.html
Deputies escort dismissed George Zimmerman juror from courthouse
Jerry Counelis, 55, eliminated from jury pool after defense finds 2012 Facebook post

June 14, 2013

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The potential juror, 55-year-old unemployed painter and guitar player Jerry Counelis, was eliminated from the jury pool on Wednesday after defense attorneys found a posting from him on a Facebook page from 2012.

Counelis was at the courthouse on Friday during the lunch hour complaining about his anonymity and saying he is hiring an attorney. According to the trespassing report, Counelis walked into the foyer of the jury assembly and expressed his privacy concerns and animosity toward the jury process to the clerk.

Authorities approached him and said that as a dismissed juror he could not be in the jury assembly area or have any contact with potential jurors until after the trial.

Counelis then said, "do they know what they are in for!" pointing to the jury assembly room.
He was trespassed by authorities after about 30 minutes.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara said at a news conference after the proceedings that if Counelis had approached the potential jurors he would have cost the court system "a week of time, thousands of dollars," and more.

"That's devastating to this process," he said.

Counelis' March 21, 2012 posting in question was on the Facebook page called "The Coffee Party Progressive," a political Facebook page that posted a comment calling for "justice for Trayvon."

Counelis told attorneys during questioning that he only determined that Zimmerman should be arrested after an arrest was made in the case. The posting was found on Facebook more than two weeks before Zimmerman was arrested.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 16, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/17/us/in-city-of-zimmerman-trial-police-chief-navigates-race-relations.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Police Chief In Florida Tries to Ease Old Tensions
Published: June 16, 2013

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/06/17/us/17sanford_1/17sanford_1-articleLarge.jpg)
Sarah Beth Glicksteen for The New York Times
Cecil Smith, the new police chief in Sanford, Fla., greeting residents during a community outreach initiative.


SANFORD, Fla. — Within days of becoming the police chief in this small city outside Orlando, Cecil E. Smith began to see clearly the scope of the challenges he faced.

There were grumblings within the Police Department’s ranks: at least one supervisor said he did not want to work for a black man.

Out on the streets, some black residents voiced misgivings of a different sort. Chief Smith may be black, but he is a Northerner. How could he ever understand them?

“This has been a slave town forever,” one resident said to Chief Smith in a low voice. “There are people who still feel white people are the devil. You’re not from here. You don’t understand.”

Peering through his glasses, Chief Smith locked eyes with the man, he later recalled. “Enlighten me,” he said, “so I can enlighten my people.”

The department Chief Smith now leads and the city it serves are in the arduous stages of trying to integrate lessons drawn from the episode that brought infamy to Sanford 16 months ago. The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, by George Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watchman, compelled many to assert that racial profiling and citizen vigilantism had taken place.

Sandford’s Police Department became the focus of much of the rage. That the agency neither arrested nor charged Mr. Zimmerman, who claimed self-defense, was taken by some as proof of not only ineptness but also bias.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 08:43:14 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/13/ddhln.01.html
DR. DREW
Trust Fund Kid on Trial; What`s At Stake In Trial?
Aired June 13, 2013 - 21:00   ET


 ::snipping3::
Up next, Jodi`s jury got to go home at night. The Zimmerman jury will not be so lucky. And again, a reminder, the Monday program, we have a primetime exclusive, the foreman of the Jodi Arias jury will be my guest. He, as he has said, was one of the four jurors who voted against the death penalty.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: Todd, you told our producers that you worried about your son. Why is that?

TODD BRIDGES, COMMENTATOR: Well, my son`s a Black male and he walks around and it`s very frightening, because they always assume -- like when we -- when something -- one black person does something, they lump us all in together, that we`ve all done it.

And I`ve noticed it when I walk in stores before, people follow me around the stores thinking I`m going to steal or I`m going to do something. And to me, it`s atrocious in this country and I think that we all should be treated equally.

PINSKY: All right.

BRIDGES: I just want to be treated like everybody else. And I really believe that no matter who was in those clothes, no matter who was walking looking like that, because I`ve got just as many White friends who get pulled over who dressed like Black guys or dress like gang members and get pulled over as anybody.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PINSKY: Back with my co-host, Jenny Hutt. It`s day four of George Zimmerman`s second-degree murder trial. Lawyers have been interviewing hundreds of potential jurors. None have been seated so far, Jenny. Back with us is Mark Eiglarsh and Danine Manette, and joining the panel Crystal Wright of ConservativeBlackChick.com, Michaek Skolnik, editor-in-chief of GlobalGrind.com. He`s on the board of the Trayvon Martin Foundation.

Danine, I know you had a hugecrush on Todd Bridges. I didn`t share that with him last night, but I understand --

(LAUGHTER)

PINSKY: It was a few years ago, mind you. But I understand you wanted to react to what he said last night?

DANINE MANETTE, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATOR: Yes. In seventh grade, my locker was covered with Todd Bridges pictures.

(LAUGHTER)

PINSKY: There you go.

MANETTE: So, with that being said --

EIGLARSH: Mine, too.

(LAUGHTER)

PINSKY: Todd, man, that entire statement about I have friends who dress black, what does it mean to dress Black? I don`t understand what he meant by that. I mean, he`s sitting up here talking about gross generalizations and racial profiling, but I`m assuming that he means that he has friends that dress like thugs so he`s interchanging the words Black and thugs, which is a problem to me for two reasons.

Number one, Trayvon was not dressed like a thug. He was dressed like a young man who was covering his head to stay out of the rain that night. And number two, to use a negative connotation of equating Black and thug together, it makes what he`s saying no different than what he`s complaining about. He`s complaining about these gross generalizations and he just made one.

PINSKY: Got it. Crystal, your reaction?

CRYSTAL WRIGHT, CONSERVATIVEBLACKCHICK.COM: Bingo, bingo, bingo. I mean, that`s what it is. I think it`s really funny whenever we talk about Black people, all Black people dress alike. We all pray alike. We all eat alike. And apparently, you know, we all live in the same neighborhood. I never got the Black memo.

(LAUGHTER)

WRIGHT: You know, I agree with a lot of what was Todd is saying. We can`t minimize that Black males in this country are profiled and stigmatized. But at the same time, as you just mentioned, you know, Todd is saying that he doesn`t want to be put so much in a Black box, so to speak.

So, he doesn`t want to be lumped together with all the bad Blacks in many ways. So, I just think we need to end the stereotypes. I mean, come on. Black people --

PINSKY: That would be wonderful. That is a great goal. Michael, I`m going to have you comment on the other side after we get back from the break. So, just (ph) after the break. More of this conversation after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: Welcome back. My co-host, Jenny Hutt, still with me as well as my panel. Michael, here you go, weigh in.

MICHAEL SKOLNIK, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF GLOBALGRIND.COM: Yes. I got a problem with what Crystal just said, because on one hand, you say all Black men look alike, that`s a problem. But then, you defend George Zimmerman.

That`s exactly what George Zimmerman did. Black teenagers were allegedly robbing some houses in the neighborhood, and then, George sees Trayvon, thinks he`s one of those kids, and profiles him because he`s Black and chases him and then executes him and puts a bullet in his chest after stalking him.

PINSKY: Crystal, you want to respond?

SKOLNIK: Isn`t that exactly what Zimmerman did?

WRIGHT: Michael, Michael, you know, wait a minute, Michael. I`m really sick of you and your stereotypes and your blanket statements about what you think. That`s the very problem why George Zimmerman is not going to get a fair trial because you`ve already convicted him in a court of public opinion. And don`t tell me about --

SKOLNIK: You just said that all Black males don`t look alike.

WRIGHT: Right. Blacks should be individuals. Thank you very much. And this case --

SKOLNIK: And Trayvon Martin should be an individual.

WRIGHT: But not race --

SKOLNIK: Trayvon Martin had nothing to do, had nothing to do with the kids who were robbing houses, nothing.

WRIGHT: This reminds me of O.J. Simpson all over again. Remember when O.J. was accused of murdering Nicole and Nicole Simpson`s boyfriend? Everybody said, no matter what, Black Americans, the majority of Black Americans were like, O.J. has to get off. He has to get off because he`s going to --

SKOLNIK: I`m not black, Crystal, I`m White, and I think George Zimmerman is guilty.

PINSKY: Hold on, guys. We got to play fair. Mark, I want to go to you. Can he get a fair trial?

EIGLARSH: Well, the answer is yes. If fair trial is simply defined by finding six people who can focus exclusively on the evidence and the law that`s given to the judge and make a decision based on that. And they did it in the Arias case. I think they can do it here.

PINSKY: I`ve got a twitter. It comes from one Crystal Wright. Let`s put it up there. Come on. Get up on the screen. "No. Zimmerman won`t have a fair trial." That`s Crystal.

WRIGHT: Yes, I really -- I don`t think he will. i think it`s going to be really hard because you have the president of the United States come out and say -- interject himself, if I had a son, President Obama said he would look like Trayvon. That, to me, is saying that he`s biased toward Zimmerman being a killer.


MANETTE: Jurors are a lot smarter than you give them credit for being, though.

PINSKY: I hope so. I hope so, Danine.

MANETTE: They`re a lot smarter.

(CROSSTALK)

MANETTE: They don`t do what we say.

PINSKY: Arias trial, I think, taught me that. But let`s -- guys, you all come back next week. We will continue with this conversation and dialogue. Hang in there. "Last Call" is next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HUTT: Drew, drew, this has been a crazy show. I mean, this is great.

PINSKY: It`s been interesting. And Jenny, you`ve done a great job this week. I appreciate you being here. Reminder, the daytime Emmy Awards are on this Sunday live on HLN at 8:00 eastern time. We`ll all be there. And again, well done, Jenny, this week. Thanks to all for watching. Thanks to all my guests this week. And, "HLN After Dark" will begin immediately following us, in fact, right now.

END


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 08:45:42 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues at 9 a.m. | Live stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW (http://bit.ly/14WdTOW)  Just the stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  (http://bit.ly/10EhrEz)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Story we'll update today: http://bit.ly/14FCtHn (http://bit.ly/14FCtHn)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 44m
Jury selection for #GeorgeZimmerman trial continues today http://thesent.nl/12DfHkf (http://thesent.nl/12DfHkf)  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:08:29 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@MzMahoganyB We're having tech issues. Will tweet a link to the chat as soon as it's available.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman in court for the start of week 2 of his trial in #TrayvonMartin's shooting. pic.twitter.com/tVOoCcmaib (http://pic.twitter.com/tVOoCcmaib)
 View photo

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 10m
Geo #Zimmerman and Shellie enter the c-room. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL
 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 26m
Reporters are arriving at the SemCo c-house for Day 6 of jury selection on #Zimmerman murder trial. To start at 9a.
#Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:10:25 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H7
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-7 remembers protests, says he has no idea why case is high profile. Says protesters wanted #GeorgeZimmerman to stand trial. #TrayvonMartin

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 4m
H7 is a white male in his 50s to 60s.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 4m
1st prospective juror of the day: H-7, 50ish white man with red hair in a business suit. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-7 heard #GeorgeZimmerman's name "because it was in the news so much." Case created a "brouhaha." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
H-7 on case: "I vaguely remember when it first started." Heard a "person had been shot." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
H-7: "I don't even have a Facebook account." Watches a variety of TV news. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
We're having technical difficulties with our chat this morning, but hope to have it working shortly. Live stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  (http://bit.ly/10EhrEz)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
First juror called for questioning this a.m. is H-7. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:24:20 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H7

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-7 brings up "stand your ground." I "seem to remember" that's part of the defense, he says. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14FCtHn  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-7 on whether he wants to be a juror: "I would rather not be here." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
H-7 says he remembers #TrayvonMartin was in Central Florida "because of some behavioral problems." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
H-7 on news media: "I thought they were just trying to sell news." Sensationalism, not bias for either side. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
@FloxMolder We're working on tech issues this morning, sorry for any issues. Try refreshing, stream should be up now.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
H-7: I probably heard 911 call in this case, "but I don't remember it, no." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
H-7 saw pics of #GeorgeZImmerman's injuries, "obviously was in some altercation with someone." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
H-7 says he's not sure why people were "making a big to-do out of it," no guilt or innocence opinion. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
H-7: Case was a "nuisance," was "disrupting typical events in the area." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:26:15 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H7

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 1m
At #GeorgeZimmerman trial prosecutors won't use 'profiled' in opening statement http://thesent.nl/12DtlDW (http://thesent.nl/12DtlDW)  #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m

Oops, wrong link: Our #GeorgeZimmerman trial live chat is up and running, HERE's a link: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW (http://bit.ly/14WdTOW)  #TrayvonMartin
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Our #GeorgeZimmerman trial live chat is up and running, here's a link: http://bit.ly/10EhrE (http://bit.ly/10EhrE)z  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:32:30 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H7

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-7 heard "there was a struggle... discharge of a firearm" and a "boy was killed." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-7: News networks have an "anti-gun atmosphere to" their coverage. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
H-7: My wife hopes I don't get on the jury. Laughs. State done with questioning. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
H-7: I have plans coming up, but "can they be delayed? Sure." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:34:22 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H7

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: Seen pics of #TrayvonMartin? H-7: "Sure... just pictures of the young man I guess." Youth stood out. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-7 heard "there was a struggle... discharge of a firearm" and a "boy was killed." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H7

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Attorneys approach the bench. H-7 went relatively quickly. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
#GeorgeZimmerman prosecutors won't use 'profiled' in opening statement | Story via @ReneStutzman: http://bit.ly/14FLgZR  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:44:02 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H10

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-10 is out, after saying he can't judge guilt or innocence. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
H-10 says he "can't judge," for religious reasons. Attorneys quickly to the bench. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 6m
H10 is a black male 50s to 60s.#fox35.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
H-10: "I'll put it like this: I don't follow the media too much." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Potential juror H-10 is next. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:45:09 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H13

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28s
H-13 says she has a lot of questions on the #GeorgeZimmerman case, but hasn't formed an opinion. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-13: Don't know "what time it even occurred," or what led #GeorgeZimmerman to "reach out to" #TrayvonMartin.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14FMlAK  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 3m
H13 is a white female in her 60s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:47:26 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H13

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19s
H-13 saw pics of #GeorgeZimmerman's injuries. Raised more questions: "How did this happen?" #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-13 says she knows about debate on "who was calling for help, whether it was Trayvon or Mr. Zimmerman." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:55:51 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H13

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Sorry, that should have been OR peaceful demonstrations.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-13: There was fear in community. "Would it end up in riots" of peaceful demonstrations? #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-13 says some "high profile politicians arrived" for protests, "I find it unsettling." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 09:57:26 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
H13

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2s
H-13: I've had talks with coworkers on case, "but their opinions aren't my opinions." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-13 mentioned Rodney King while discussing the possibility of riots, something she was fearful of. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
3rd juror of day: H-13, white grandmother who says of #Trayvon protesters "I find it unsettling." Afraid for Sanford. #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Bernie de la Rionda: Can you forget protests in reaching verdict? H-13: Yes. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 10:04:37 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
H13

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-13 says she's never been to a protest. Didn't know rallies were happening elsewhere about this case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-13 again says she was bothered by protests: "a little scary and a bit unsettling to me." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection continues | Live stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  Just stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14FOcWd  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 10:07:22 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
H13

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 44s
Don West: Did #GeorgeZimmerman racially profile #TrayvonMartin? H-13: "I don't know that... It's a question that's not answered."

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 1m
Shellie Zimmerman's body guard is as big as a refrigerator.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 10:12:25 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
H13


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Concerned about violence bc of this case? H-13: Could be, if there's "a verdict that is not popular." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-13 mentions Revs Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson. Says they believe #GeorgeZimmerman "shot an innocent young man." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West: Do you know how many protested? H-13: "I believe they said hundreds, but I'm not sure." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 10:17:03 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
H13

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39s
H-13 on public anger and #GeorgeZimmerman: "I am not concerned that he would not get a fair trial." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-13: Any violence or anger over verdict "like everything else" would go away eventually. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
West: Concerned for yourself? H-13: "No, sir... I don't believe that any harm would come to me from sitting on the jury." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 10:31:50 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
H13


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33s
H-13 watches @WFTV, knew of hearings on audio experts w/opinions on cries for help in 911 call. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
H-13 says she thinks #GeorgeZimmerman did something wrong by following #TrayvonMartin after being told not to.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
West: #GeorgeZimmerman followed #TrayvonMartin after being told not to? H-13: "I believe that he did."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
H-13 adds that she assumes there was an altercation between #TrayvonMartin and #GeorgeZimmerman because of GZ's injuries.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
H-13 says she heard #GeorgeZimmerman "called out to" #TrayvonMartin and "I honestly don't know what happened after that."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
H-13: "I believe #GeorgeZimmerman approached #TrayvonMartin... to find out what he was doing" in GZ's complex.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 10:32:57 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
H13

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55s
@MzMahoganyB Sanford is in the Orlando market. Main stations are @MyFoxOrlando, @WESH, @WFTV, @ClickOrlando, @CFNews13.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 11:02:36 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H13


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14s 
H13 says she has three black coworkers who were "convinced right from the start that it was racial profiling." Some others didn't agree

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
West back to questioning H13. She says she hasn't heard talk about whether Zimmerman was wrong for carrying a firearm.
 
 Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
@ahrcanum Hi. I do and will be tweeting throughout the trial. I hope you keep following and interacting with me!

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Lawyers are up at the bench discussing a prosecution objection to West questioning H13 about ideas on firearm use and Zimmerman.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H13


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  58s 
Court in recess for 10 mins.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
West is done questioning H13. Lawyers now discussing.
 
  Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H13 says she could find #GeorgeZimmerman not guilty and she would have no problem facing coworkers who disagreed.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Sister on June 17, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
30 acres, 2 dogs, a duck, 40 chickens , keep up deer plots, and do a little welding on the side. I still find time to relax and keep up with the news. These people are LIARS!

Or like I said before, IDIOTS! 
either way, it makes me nervous.
Have to admit, Mondays (my day off) is when I get caught up on news, etc.  Not so much during the week.  But I'm not isolated from what's happening in the world and especially our country.  Course, my Momma (bless her heart) would call me if there was something I needed to know right away.  She kept up with things.
 ::justice2nj2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 11:31:13 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H18


https://twitter.com/tonypipitone
 
Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  3m 
Next up, H-18, Hispanic male, maybe 30s, favors Netflix over news. Recently started a business.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 11:40:04 AM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H18


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H18 says serving for a long time will be a hardship. He's a mechanic and a business owner. Lawyers now at the bench discussing.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
H18 says his family doesn't speak much English & they don't have cable. He uses the Internet but hasn't come across anything about the case

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
H18 on jury notice: "I thought I was being brought to court for something I did."

 Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H18 says he didn't form an opinion about people wearing hoodies. Adds he didn't see any court procedures on television.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
H18 says he mostly watches Netflix and not much news. He says he heard a young man was shot walking back from the store.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
H18 is up next. He's a muscular,  younger Hispanic man wearing a back polo shirt.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 11:51:43 AM
June 17, 20136 Tweets cont
H18


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H18 questioning is over. Lawyers discussing.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  29s 
H18 says he heard people talking about the case but didn't get involved.
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
H18 says he can go by just what evidence is presented in court.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
H18 says he remembers a young guy got shot while coming from the store. He adds the shooter was from the neighborhood watch.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
H18 moved here from Kuwait with his wife and daughter. He's now going through a divorce.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Mark O'Mara is now asking whether H18 could survive serving on jury. "I will survive," H18 says.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
June 17, 2013

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  38s 
Court now in recess for lunch. Back at 1 p.m.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 12:24:28 PM
I had to go run errands.  Catching up on tweets.   ::bee::

June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
H-13, the grandma: my 6-yo grandson is biracial. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 from Lake Mary, FL   Reply  Retweet  Favorite   More
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 says several African American coworkers "were convinced right from the start" that the case was "racial profiling." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@profspeere Lol right. Sorry, I shoulda put your Twitter handle in that tweet. Couldn't remember what it was.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14FV5Ha (http://bit.ly/14FV5Ha)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 on Neighborhood Watch having guns: Never heard of that. "Do they carry guns? I don't know that." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 on #GeorgeZimmerman having a gun: "I just have the question, why did he have it?" #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
West: Could you change your mind on whether #GeorgeZimmerman followed #TrayvonMartin? H-13: "I don't know that I could be open to that."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 says she saw an @OrlandoSentinel cover story on jury selection starting: "I did glance at that." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Very cool: My multimedia journalism professor from @UCF in court, helping cover this case for @NYTimes pic.twitter.com/181fxg0be9
 View photo

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 also thinks one of the experts identified the screams as #TrayvonMartin. Another said it was #GeorgeZimmerman, she says.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 thinks one expert said the screams in the 911 audio couldn't be identified. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13 heard experts differ on 911 audio screams, but doesn't know specifics. Multi-tasks while news is on. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1h
Watch the Geo #Zimmerman trial live, jury selection, Day 6: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/oslivevideo-george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-20130528,0,7496592.htmlstory …
#Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
#GeorgeZimmerman: Jury selection continues today | Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  Stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@MzMahoganyB Yes, it's up now: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/13Unpmw  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Time for a 10 minute recess, Judge Nelson says. H-13 done with questioning. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@pnutbtrpkltime Will do, thanks for following!
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Attorneys appear to be done questioning H-13. They're at the bench. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-13: "I'm very independent & I have my own thoughts," not worried about how colleagues or friends would react to verdict. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 12:29:36 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H18
https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS
 (https://twitter.com/jeffweinerOS)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
@TheFlaCracker Continues at 4 p.m. today. My Note:  This in regard to the Frye Hearing  MuffyBee
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 35m
Time for lunch! Court in recess until 1 p.m. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 35m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/13Uww6M (http://bit.ly/13Uww6M)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38m
O'Mara's done questioning H-18, attorneys now approaching bench. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 42m
O'Mara: Can you base a verdict only on evidence in court? H-18: "Yeah," I don't remember much anyway. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45m
H-18 says his company would survive without him if necessary: "It would be there for sure." #TRayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48m
Attorneys discussing H-18 now. Though his pretrial publicity answers were seemingly promising, sequestration hardship likely a concern.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/13Ut1x6 (http://bit.ly/13Ut1x6)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51m
H-18 says being sequestered would be very hard, "my time is money." Owner & operator of his business. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 55m
H-18 thought jury summons meant he was in trouble: "What did I do?" Laughter in courtroom. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57m
Three things H-18 says he doesn't get involved in: "Politics, religion and race." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58m
H-18: Talk I heard was "more about what happened," less about guilt or innocence. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 58m
H-18: Heard a young man was shot & "the one that did it" was Neighborhood Watch. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@MzMahoganyB I think we've determined that's a browser issue. If you clear browser history or use a different one, should fix.
 View conversation
 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 1h
H18 is an hispanic man bet. 30 to 40 yrs old.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
H-18 heard about the case at work, "I don't watch TV." Watches Netflix. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Expand
 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Next up: Potential juror H-18. Bernie de la Rionda questioning for state. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 12:55:09 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-6-20130617,0,4925293.story?ssadase
George Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today
Debate resumes late today on screams in the background of a 911 call.

June 17, 2013

SANFORD - Jury selection for the trial of George Zimmerman resumed this morning, with attorneys continuing their search for Seminole County residents who remain undecided on his guilt or innocence in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Today is the trial's sixth day, and court is currently in recess for lunch. Jury selection will resume at 1 p.m.

The most recent potential juror called for questioning, a man identified as H-18 who previously lived in Kuwait, said he knew a young person was shot and "the one that did it" was in the Neighborhood Watch, but otherwise hasn't followed the case.

H-18 said he doesn't watch television, preferring Netflix. He said he has no opinion on Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, and generally avoids debates about politics, religion and race.

A small business owner, H-18 said that being sequestered as a juror for an extended period would be a hardship, but not an insurmountable one.


Before H-18, the attorneys spent a great deal of time with H-13, a white woman who appeared to be in her 60s. She said she has a lot of questions about the facts of case -- how Zimmerman and Trayvon encountered each other, when it happened and why Zimmerman had a gun, for example -- but few answers and no firm opinion.

H-13 said she's seen pictures of Zimmerman's injuries, but those only raised more questions.

"How did this happen?" she said, adding later that she's talked to people about the case, but "their opinions aren't my opinions."
 ::snipping3::

Attorneys in the case are expected to continue questioning jurors all morning and for most of the afternoon, then shift gears about 4 p.m. and turn their attention back to the screams for help in the background of a 911 call from the night of the Feb. 26, 2012, shooting.

The defense has a biometrics expert who's expected to testify that the audio analyses of two state experts should not be trusted.

Those two prosecution experts testified two weeks ago that the calls for help in the background of a call made while Zimmerman was fighting with Trayvon did not come from Zimmerman.

Defense attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West have asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to ban those state experts from the trial, arguing their work is unreliable.

Nelson is expected to listen to one defense expert today. Tomorrow, the state is expected to put on one or more rebuttal witnesses.
 ::snipping3::
The bulk of the work in Nelson's courtroom each of those days, however, will be jury selection.

The same was true each day last week. The focus today remains the same: pretrial publicity and what potential jurors know and how they feel about the Miami Gardens 17-year-old's death.

Early Friday, the judge called into her courtroom 19 potential jurors who have not yet been questioned and released them for the day but directed them to report back to the courthouse this morning.
They're the ones expected to face individual questioning today.

So far, after questioning more than three dozen others, lawyers have found 28 who passed the publicity test and haven't had hardships to prevent them from serving.


Attorneys in the case hope to get 40 jurors through the pretrial publicity phase before moving on to a more-traditional, group jury selection process as soon as Tuesday.

Ultimately, they're looking for 10 Seminole County residents - six jurors and four alternates who'll decide the case.

Nelson has confirmed that the jurors ultimately seated in the case will be sequestered until it's over. She estimated the trial would last two to four weeks
More...

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 12:56:46 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#GeorgeZimmerman and his attorneys are back in court, jury selection resumes shortly. Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW (http://bit.ly/14WdTOW)  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial resumes soon: Live stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW (http://bit.ly/14WdTOW) , stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  (http://bit.ly/10EhrEz) #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
The Zimmerman trial resumes soon: Here's what happened this morning http://bit.ly/14G9Idz (http://bit.ly/14G9Idz)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:05:29 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  2m 
Potential juror H-27 is a 40-50-something white male with a grey ZZ Top beard.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:08:56 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  47s 
H27 says he donated $20 to #GeorgeZimmerman defense fund because he felt sorry for him.
 
 Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H27 says he mostly heard about the #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin shooting on local news and with talks with coworkers.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H27 is next potential juror being questioned.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:16:59 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48s
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14GcyiL (http://bit.ly/14GcyiL)  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-27 mentions the NBC editing controversy, says #GeorgeZimmerman was returning to truck when #TrayvonMartin approached from behind.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-27 says #GeorgeZimmerman's account matches witnesses, & he's "entitled to self-defense." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR: You have any opinion on case? H-27: "Yes," but not absolute. Could "approach it with an open mind." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
H-27 says there's a crime problem in Central Florida. Says he can relate to #GeorgeZimmerman. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
H-27: Media "seem to me to be biased" against #GeorgeZimmerman. Thinks GZ was "trying to do the right thing." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
H-27 says he gave #GeorgeZimmerman defense $20, calls Zimmerman an "underdog... he was getting piled on." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
H-27: "I donated to the defense fund some time ago." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
H-27 says his sister's a police officer in Las Vegas. He's talked to her about the case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
H-27: I've seen some coverage, but "haven't gone looking for it." Saw some on @CNN. Reads the paper too. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 13m
H27 is a white male in his 50s, w a ZZ Top beard.Fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
H-27 has seen coverage on @WFTV, has talked to coworkers about case at times.  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Nelson on the bench, next juror up is H-27. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:17:14 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  57s 
H27 says #GeorgeZimmerman  is the "underdog" and media seems bias against him. #TrayvonMartin
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
"You're entitled to self defense," says H27. He adds Zimmerman wouldn't have called the cops if he wanted to murder Trayvon.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
H27 says he's been in the same position as Zimmerman and called the police on suspicious people but by the time police came, ppl were gone

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
H27:  "(#GeorgeZimmerman) was trying to do the right thing and things spiraled out of control." Says he can relate.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-27 says people like Revs Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton "make a living off" making racial controversies. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-27 knows of #GeorgeZimmerman's prior arrest, but doesn't think that's a big deal. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:21:51 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
H27 believes Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make a living stirring up trouble. He does not believe it was racial. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
H27 heard that #Zimmerman was in a fight in a bar years ago. It didn't sound serious to him.. He thinks it went nowhere.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
H27 days #Zimmerman would not have called the police to the complex if he was up to no good. He believes in self defense. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
H27 says he has an opinion but he could be open-minded. The state says he wrote on his questionnaire that he had no opinion. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
H27 says everyone was piling on against #Zimmerman, protests, etc and felt sorry for him. #

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
H27's sister is a police officer in Las Vegas. He donated $20 to the #Zimmerman defense fund because he felt he was the underdog.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:24:04 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31s
BDLR: You could be fair, even though you donated to #GeorgeZimmerman? H-27: "I said I could keep an open mind." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-27 repeatedly calls #TrayvonMartin "the victim," but also describes himself as a #GeorgeZimmerman supporter.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-27 doesn't believe the shooting was about race & thinks media was unfair. "I was pro-Zimmerman." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:24:54 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says pictures of Zimmerman's injuries seemed to support his story that Martin attacked him.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H27: "I was pro-Zimmerman."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
H27 on Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton: "They seem to just be out there stirring up trouble." They make a living by making things about race.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:28:17 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-27 says #GeorgeZimmerman followed #TrayvonMartin, but it's not OK to attack someone "just because you think you're being followed."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: Shouldn't you have put on questionnaire that you donated to #GeorgeZimmerman? H-27: "A lot of things" not on there. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says he talked about the case with his sister who is a police officer in Las Vegas.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says he is a supporter of Florida's stand your ground law. Says he's 70% sure #GeorgeZimmerman is innocent. #TrayvonMartin
 
 Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H27 says he thinks Zimmerman was following Martin but that doesn't mean Martin had a right to "attack" Zimmerman.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H27 on his $20 contribution to Zimmerman's defense fund: "I can be fair. I don't think that matters whether I can be fair."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36s
BDLR: Stuff on your Facebook about #GeorgeZImmerman? H-27: "I really couldn't tell you yes or no." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@NPRrussell Thanks!
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-27 on SYG & this case: "You can't retreat if someone's on top of you attacking you." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: You're a "big supporter" of "stand your ground" law? H-27: "Yes, I am." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
H-27 on #TrayvonMartin: "He was apparently acting suspicious," but I don't know how. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/NPRrussell (https://twitter.com/NPRrussell)

Russell Lewis ‏@NPRrussell 4m
Want the nitty-gritty of George Zimmerman's jury selection? @Yamiche, @JeffWeinerOS, @DavidOvalle305, @renestutzman are all live-tweeting.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-27: When you're 17, "you think you're bulletproof." People that age take chances. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR strongly suggesting H-27 has a picture of #GeorgeZimmerman on his Facebook page. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:37:55 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  31s 
H27: #TrayvonMartin 's history of fights is important. So is #GeorgeZimmerman 's history.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27: "At 17, you think you're bulletproof and 10 feet tall." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H27 says he doesn't think he has a picture of #GeorgeZimmerman on his Facebook. "My opinion is inclined towards him," he adds.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:39:28 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
BDLR: Have you used inflammatory rhetoric in talking about this case? H-27: "I don't normally." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-27: "We had some people trying to turn it into a racial thing." Says it's not about that. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
(https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 47s
H-27 says there's been an "overload" in media lately with this case & #CaseyAnthony. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-27 says he doesn't want to be on the jury, but "I'm not gonna try to shirk my duty." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  20s 
The state is pressing H27 about whether he's done internet research. He denies it. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
H27 says if Martin had a history of fighting it would be relevant in his mind and also #Zimmerman 's history of fighting.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
H27 said of Martin that when you're 17 you think you're bulletproof and 10 feet tall. Benjamin Crump smiled. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
Prosecutor Angela Corey has a pensive expression as she's listening to the potential juror's opinions. #Zimmerman

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
H27 has very strong opinions that #Zimmerman is innocent but insists he can be fair. Sabrina Fulton looks very unhappy.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  14m 
The state is pointing out that H27 did not admit he gave $ to #Zimmerman in answering the questionnaire. He said he could be fair.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 01:45:17 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27s
H-27 says he saw a photo of #GeorgeZimmerman "with a broken nose." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
H-27 says he's aware of "controversy" about "voices in the background" of 911 audio. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says #GeorgeZimmerman 's nose seemed broken. #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
H27 says he's heard 911 call with person screaming. "I would believe it's George," he says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
H27 says he hasn't looked for anything about the case but he's heard recent news about motions and jury selection.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
H27: I've called the cops on suspicious people. Prosecutor: Did you follow them with a gun? Defense objects. Judge stops line of questioning


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 17, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Hi Monks!  ::HelloKitty::
As a resident of Florida, I am embarrassed to listen to these potential jurors be evasive, vague and lie outright. Shameful display of lack of integrity.. on both sides...
I have tried to listen to as little as possible and still be aware of what is going on because I get so aggravated by the dishonesty.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:54:01 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Use one of its 10 challenges but he insists he has an open mind which makes that a challenge. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The state has been questioning H27 for about 45 minutes.  The state might be trying to disqualify him without having to 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
H27 says he does not want to be on the jury. He said the state can disqualify him for his donation or his opinion. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 17, 2013, 01:54:57 PM
and again thank you muffybee and graceland for tweeting.... you are sparing my mental health and I am grateful..


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says he can't remember Sean Hannity covering the #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin case.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says he's a firm believer that #GeorgeZimmerman is innocent. #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
H27: Media was unfair and continued to refer to Zimmerman as a man "who shot an unarmed teen." Says media failed to mentioned self defense

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
H27 says defense fund of #GeorgeZimmerman was about "keeping your family afloat." He says he hasn't heard of a fund for #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
H27 says he took comments of lawyers for #GeorgeZimmerman with a "grain of salt."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:02:04 PM
and again thank you muffybee and graceland for tweeting.... you are sparing my mental health and I am grateful..

You're welcome, flamom.  Speaking of mental health, I think that I need a  ::monkeywine2:: to get through the tweeting.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
and again thank you muffybee and graceland for tweeting.... you are sparing my mental health and I am grateful..

Hey ya' flamom ::HelloKitty::  You're welcome.    ::MonkeyCool::   I have a feeling before this trial is over, there's going to be a lot of  :2brickwall: 



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 02:07:33 PM
and again thank you muffybee and graceland for tweeting.... you are sparing my mental health and I am grateful..

You're welcome, flamom.  Speaking of mental health, I think that I need a  ::monkeywine2:: to get through the tweeting.



Great minds and all that....   ::monkeywine2::  I was just thinking the same thing.  The two aleve I took last time posted tweets didn't help.  I said it was too early to  ::monkeywine2::, but alagary seemed to think it might be an issue with clocks.   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports  4m 
In this afternoon session public seating area of #zimmermantrial courtroom has thinned out - just five people - one a local pastor.
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H27 says he could set aside his opinion that #GeorgeZimmerman is innocent. "I'm pretty convinced I haven't heard everything in the case."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Don West now questioning H27.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H27 says Obama shouldn't have commented on #TrayvonMartin He adds Obama doesn't talk about "overseas heroes" and shouldn't have taken a side

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
H27 on #GeorgeZimmerman : "I think he has a right to follow a person without being attack." #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 02:10:37 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-27: "I'm pretty convinced that I haven't heard everything in the case." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-27 says he can base verdict on evidence at trial, could change opinion on case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Based on BDLR's questions, seems H-27 made a Facebook comment about Spike Lee. Content unclear. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
H-27 on President Obama #TrayvonMartin comments: "He was taking a side in the case when it still hadn't been decided yet." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
H-27: Comments I've made in the past "are consistent with what I've told you." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
H-27 says #GeorgeZimmerman "has a right to follow a person without being attacked." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
H-27 says he "occasionally" watches Sean Hannity. Doesn't think Hannity has covered this case (he has). #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Sentinel Photo ‏@OSPhoto 15m
Updated gallery from today's OSPhoto pool cam in #GeorgeZimmerman trial -- Sanford, Fla.: http://bit.ly/11sYZyU (http://bit.ly/11sYZyU)  #zimmerman #trayvonmartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
H-27 says he did research on "stand your ground" law "back when it was first passed." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
H-27 says he feels sympathy for #TrayvonMartin's family, but believes #GeorgeZimmerman was justified in shooting.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
H-27 says #TrayvonMartin's family had large following, #GeorgeZimmerman's didn't get as much "support." Media "rarely mention" self-defense.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
BDLR: Have you read any books on case? H-27: "I didn't know there were any books about the case." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 17, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
 ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 02:18:34 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H27
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Looks like questioning is over for H-27. Attorneys back to the bench. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-27 on #GeorgeZimmerman donation: "I'd like to think that I donated to a good cause," but wouldn't factor that in verdict. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
H-27 says he donated to #GeorgeZimmerman soon after the defense fund was set up. Heard about it on the news. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/16A64lk  (http://bit.ly/16A64lk) #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H27


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
H27 says he'd like to think he could be fair. Lawyers are at the bench discussing whether at this point he stays or goes. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
H27 says $20 is not a lot but he doesn't have $ to spare.. But does not feel he has a financial stake in the case. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
H27 says if the state proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt he would convict #Zimmerman. That is the legal standard.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
H27 told the defense if he finds out what he's heard is wrong he would be able to change his mind. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  15m 
H27 believes the President took a side on the Trayvon Martin case which he thought was inappropriate. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  17m 
Being attacked. 2/2 #Zimmerman

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  18m 
The prosecutor has been grilling H27 for about an hour. H27 says even if #Zimmerman  followed Martin Zimmerman had the right to without 1/2


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman 2m
Attorneys talk to Judge Nelson about potential juror H27. Earlier today @Markomaralaw flashes a smile (via @joeburb) pic.twitter.com/Zich6f3e7S (http://pic.twitter.com/Zich6f3e7S)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Screengrab: Shellie Zimmerman in court today for husband #GeorgeZimmerman's trial. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/g4UD5k1v01 (http://pic.twitter.com/g4UD5k1v01)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 02:27:55 PM
I'm heading out for a while.  Be back in a few...   ::jeep3:: 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
I'm heading out for a while.  Be back in a few...   ::jeep3:: 

Enjoy!  But hurry back.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:35:04 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H29


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13s 
H29 is a middle aged white man. He says it became a media cirvus with celebrities which turned him off. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
H 29 is a white middle aged man. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:40:52 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H29


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H29 says people came into town and judged the case not on it's merit. He thinks that's wrong.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
H29 says most of the people he knows were upset about negative media portrayals of Sanford.
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H29 says continuous coverage of the case made him tune out information about #TrayvonMartin and #GeorgeZimmerman shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H29 says he remembers pictures of the back of Zimmerman's head and pictures of Martin young and older.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
H29: "We had a little circus come to town with celebrities." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
H29 is an older white man wearing  a white collared shirt and glasses.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:49:15 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H29


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Mark O'Mara now up questioning.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
B29: "This is not an easy decision regardless of how this goes." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H29 is second potential juror today that I can remember saying Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton unnecessarily brought race & controversy to case

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H27 says he hasn't made any Internet comments or visited any sites dedicated to #GeorgeZimmerman or #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
H29 says he can't express what happened one way or another because he doesn't know what happened.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H29


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
H29 says the selfish part of him does not want to be on the jury but he would do it if he were chosen.  #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
H29 he would follow where the evidence leads and not let the negative publicity about Sanford sway him. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
H27 is out! A deputy escorted him to his vehicle. He did not want to talk to Channel 9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 02:56:41 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H31


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  24s 
H31 is a Hispanic woman who appears to be in her 30's. She has no friends who support #Zimmerman but friends who support Martin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H31


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
H31 is a single mom with two children under the age of 14. She says jury duty is a hardship "100%" Lawyers now discussing.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H31 has heard some information surrounding the case on television but hasn't discussed the shooting much.
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
H31 says she didn't focus on the case. "It's not anything I was going to lose sleep over."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
@Yamiche Should have been H31.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
H29 says she has friends who are supporters of #TrayvonMartin but none who support #GeorgeZimmerman . She says she doesn't talk about case

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
Next up is H31, a middle aged woman.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H35


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
H 31 is gone. H 35 is now up. She is a white female possibly in her late 20's. She had Martin's photo on her facebook page.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H35


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H35 says she remembers a "boy got shot" and that there was an altercation.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H35 says her dad told her #GeorgeZimmerman was "bonded out recently."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
H35 says she remembers seeing pictures of #TrayvonMartin on Facebook and pictures of #GeorgeZimmerman 's face on TV.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
She says she heard "hoodie" everywhere and that Martin was wearing one.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
H35 says he knows something about #TrayvonMartin buying skittles. She says Zimmerman "was a security guard."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
H35 says she liked a picture of #TrayvonMartin a while ago and it may be on her Facebook page.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
H35, a young white woman, is up next


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 03:25:59 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H35


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
H35 saying she can form an opinion based on facts. She remembers liking a Facebook post having to do with not being a racist.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Mark O'Mara is now up questioning H35. Explaining that jurors must only consider evidence presented in court.  H35 says she can do that.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H35 says she is in the middle of moving. Prosecutor says he's done questioning her.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 03:34:09 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets cont
H35


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  31s 
Questioning of H35 is done. She's left the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
H35 says she's never had a full blown discussion about the #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman shooting.
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
H35 sounds anxious about serving on jury. "I'm moving...I want to be there for America but I have obligations."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
June 17, 2013

https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  1m 
We now apparently have 32 of the 40 the judge wanted for general voir dire.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  2m 
Only 4 of today's 8 survived. Gone: bearded defense contributor, single mom, woman who believed Zimmerman followed Trayvon, and non-judger.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  5m 
With Frye hearing set to start in 12 minutes, judge tells 12 jurors-in-waiting to come back Tuesday, 6 more to return Wednesday.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 04:19:39 PM
June 17, 2013

https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  1m 
First, hearing on defense motion to keep jurors anonymous for at least six months after trial ends. State concurs. Media opposing.

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  3m 
#GeorgeZimmerman defense witness in this continued Frye hearing will be Jim Wayman, San Jose State University



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 04:22:14 PM
June 13, 2013

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Frye hearing is about to begin #Zimmermanon9
Judge will also decide how soon the jurors names will be released after the trial ends


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 04:41:20 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-6-20130617,0,4925293.story

George Zimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues
By Jeff Weiner and Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
4:29 p.m. EDT, June 17, 2013

SANFORD - After a day spent in jury selection, attorneys in the trial of George Zimmerman have switched gears this afternoon for testimony on state audio experts who say it’s more likely Trayvon Martin, not Zimmerman, who was screaming for help before the shooting.

The defense has a biometrics expert, James L. Wayman, who's testifying this afternoon. He's expected to say the audio work done by state experts should not be trusted.

Those prosecution experts testified two weeks ago, as did others for the defense, but the issue was delayed because Wayman wasn’t available. Defense attorneys have asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to prevent the state experts testifying in the trial.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:11:18 PM
I'm ba--a-a-ck...  Catching up on tweets.

June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H29
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29: "This is a tragic case. There are no winners here." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 4h
6th prospective juror of the day: H-29, older white guy, who described #Trayvon protests as "a little circus come to town." #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29 saw pictures of injuries to #GeorgeZImmerman, also pics of #TrayvonMartin, at various ages. "It became a circus."

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 4h
H29 is a white male in his 60s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29 says the "little circus" caused him to stop following the case. Says he doesn't know shooting details. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29: "We had a little circus come to town, with celebrities... That quite honestly turned me off." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29: I heard "that there had been a shooting in the Sanford area... a sad event." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29 watches @WESH, says he's seen coverage of the case in a "combination" of media outlets. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29 is next up. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
Long conversation at the bench after questioning of potential juror who donated to #GeorgeZimmerman. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H29
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29 on #GeorgeZimmerman jury duty: "I wouldn't want to serve, but I'll let you gentlemen make that determination." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4h
H-29 says Revs. Jackson & Sharpton "judged this case not on its merit."  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman says there really aren't standards for speaker recognition. They're in the works, but not done. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman a "technical assessor" for National Institute of Standards and Tech. Certifies labs for NIST. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
@soundpam Sure, here's a link for just the video, no chat: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman talking about developing standards & terminology for biometrics. Work is ongoing, he says. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman is former director for Department of Defense-funded National Biometric Test Center. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman: I've worked for Department of Defense on a variety of biometric sciences, inc speaker recognition. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman says he's on the editorial board of a number of publications, has guest edited as well.  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman says he contributes to books, teaches courses to government agencies on biometrics. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman says he also works for Australian government. He's currently in London, but based out of San Jose. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Zimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11KWBU9  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman says he has worked with The RAND Corporation, currently works at @SJSU & for British government. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman has been granted patents, says he's done public and private work & helped develop standards. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:20:02 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
In addition to stress, type of microphone could affect speech, Wayman says. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
This testimony about spectrographic analysis is meant to rebut Alan Reich, who used it in making his report. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Wayman: "I'm tired, I'm a little jet-lagged." Giving examples of situational characteristics that could affect spectrogram. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@MikeSchneiderAP NIST's name sounds like it tries to kill James Bond, at least on occasion.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Breaking: Reporters buried in avalanche of acronyms and science terms at the Frye hearing. Send help.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Defense & state are arguing about a demonstrative exhibit Wayman prepared. State says it's new to them. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Voice-print concept has been under fire for decades, Wayman says. "Widely discredited" by about 1970. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman: "Voice-print" was controversial, "upset much of the community." Discredited, he says. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Wayman says attempts at voice recognition date back to World War II. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:22:28 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 53m
Wayman: Conditions have to match for proper comparison analysis. "This is a fragile technique." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 54m
@melrobbins Distance from screamer to phone, objects in-between, windows (open or closed), conditions outside, etc.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 57m
Wayman likes this phrase a lot: "There's no free lunch here." That was the 3rd or 4th time. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Wayman: Factors in case could have dramatically changed analysis results. "This is getting to be too hard." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 tvguyhal ‏@tvguyhal 1h
George Zimmerman: What to look for in a juror? http://goo.gl/fb/EV85F  (http://goo.gl/fb/EV85F)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Here's a PDF of Reich's report. Mentions spectrographic examination on page 3: http://bit.ly/10F63rH  (http://bit.ly/10F63rH) #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Wayman says the scientific community gave up on spectrographic recognition 40 years ago. "Completely" abandoned.  #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Wayman: "There are so many variables" complicating analysis in this case.  Distance, surfaces, microphone. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
"Every spectrogram is different, even from the same speaker," Wayman says. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
Judge rules for the state, which argues that Wayman can't testify to something somebody else wrote. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
State & defense are now arguing about admissibility of this article (I think) http://bit.ly/13VKrJC  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
West is now having Wayman vouch for the credentials of the other defense experts. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 41m
Zimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/19KI7f7 (http://bit.ly/19KI7f7)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 45m
Wayman: Science & law are "rather strange bedfellows," says he and West are speaking different languages. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 46m
Wayman says if someone could do what Owen says, it'd be a "breakthrough... I have never seen such a thing." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimemrman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 48m
Wayman says screams in this case are "simply not enough data by anybody's estimation." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 50m
Wayman says he wouldn't assume all of the 911 screams are from the same speaker. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 54m
Defense audio expert Jas.Wayman: voice exemplar needs to be given under the same condition as sample being tested otherwise "havoc."
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Wayman says he can't tell from Reich's report "what he even did." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Wayman: If Owen's software could do what he says, "it would be breathtakingly new and novel." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Wayman: Looping audio for analysis, as Owen did, is fundamentally flawed. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Wayman says Owen shouldn't have assumed all screams were from one person: "We weren't there." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
Wayman on report by state's Owen: "I didn't understand it very well... It lacked detail, I would say." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
Court back in session, more West and Wayman. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
Time for a recess: 15 minutes. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Wayman: "There is a correlation between pitch and age," but can't tell screamer's age based on this audio. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Wayman on Reich's report: "I just don't understand it... like magic to me." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 07:52:49 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Wayman says he decided audio wasn't good enough "the first time I heard the tapes." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Mantei: Did you hear an exemplar of #TrayvonMartin's voice? Wayman: "I did not." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Mantei: Agreement in field? Wayman: "More universal agreement than you'd think" but not "canonized." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
Wayman says in U.S. "we do not have adequate standards" for forensic speech ID. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
West is done with direct examination. Mantei now up to cross examine Wayman. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Wayman on Reich: "He was biased to look for these words," brought "presuppositions" into analysis. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 08:25:31 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
West is done, no re-cross by state. Wayman's testimony is over.  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
Wayman says as far as he knows, NIST has never done tests w/ "shouting at a distance." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Mantei done with questioning, West's up for brief re-direct. Nelson: "Briefly is the key word." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 20m
At 8p c-room lights went dark for a few seconds. Judge: I'm to blame, and on we keep going. #Zimmerman, #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
The lights go out in the courtroom again. Hearing continues. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 08:29:40 PM
June 17, 2013 Cont
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
That's it for today! Court in recess until 9 a.m. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
State to call Tom Owen as a rebuttal witness Wednesday at 4 p.m.  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
June 17, 2013 Tweets Cont
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Zimmerman trial: No decision on experts; jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11HwCvH  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 17, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-6-20130617,0,4925293.story?dads
George Zimmerman trial: No decision on experts; jury selection continues
Debate resumes on screams in the background of a 911 call.

June 17, 2013
SANFORD - Attorneys in the George Zimmerman trial worked well into the evening on Monday, taking testimony disputing state audio experts who say it’s more likely that 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, not Zimmerman, was heard screaming for help before the teen's shooting.

The testimony came after almost a full day of jury selection in the trial. Court wrapped up for the day about 8:30 p.m., and resumes at 9 a.m. Tuesday.

A defense biometrics expert who testified Monday afternoon, James L. Wayman, said the audio work done by state experts should not be trusted.


The screams -- captured in the background of a 911 call -- are insufficient in quality and duration to identify anyone, Wayman said. And in order to compare them, something Wayman said he wouldn't try, the exact conditions of the screams would have to be replicated, he said.

"This is a fragile technique," Wayman said, adding that in this case there's "simply not enough data, by anybody's estimation."


The prosecution experts testified two weeks ago, as did others for the defense, but the issue was delayed because Wayman wasn’t available then. Defense attorneys have asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to prevent the state experts from testifying in the trial.

No decision was reached Monday. The state will recall one of its experts, Tom Owen, to testify again on Wednesday.

Zimmerman says he’s the one heard yelling in the 911 audio. The 911 call was placed by a neighbor who heard the struggle between Zimmerman and Trayvon.

One key state expert, Alan R. Reich, says the cries are Trayvon, and that the teen can be heard yelling “I’m begging you.”

However, Wayman said Reich is using techniques that were discredited decades ago.

Before the hearing on experts began, Nelson granted a defense request to keep jurors' personal information a secret for a cooling off period after trial. The judge did not settle on a time period that protection would last.

Earlier Monday, attorneys continued jury selection, looking for Seminole County residents who remain undecided on Zimmerman's guilt or innocence in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford.

Four jurors questioned Monday were asked to return Wednesday, a sign they've gotten past the pre-trial publicity phase of questioning. Monday is the trial's sixth day.

One potential juror called for questioning this afternoon, H-27, revealed that he at one point donated to Zimmerman's defense fund. He was the first potential juror questioned so far who has said that. H-27 was not asked to return later this week, a likely sign he was dismissed.

The next juror called, H-29, said he doesn't have an opinion on Zimmerman's guilt or innocence. He  said he didn't like the protests after the case, which caused him to lose interest in it.

"We had a little circus come to town, with celebrities... That quite honestly turned me off," he said. The potential juror said he has seen images of Zimmerman and Trayvon.

"This is a tragic case," said H-29, who was asked to come back on Wednesday. "There are no winners here."

The juror called after H-29, a Hispanic woman identified as H-31, was briefly questioned but then sent away after she said that being sequestered for a month for the trial would be a hardship. She's a single mother of two, the juror said, and wouldn't get paid by her employer while serving.

Next up was H-35, a young woman who said she knows little about the case. H-35 said she heard an "altercation happened... I guess there was a gun involved, because he was shot."

The young woman said serving on the jury would be difficult because she has to move by the end of the month. She was asked to come back on Wednesday.

Monday morning, the attorneys questioned a man identified as H-18, who said he knew a young person was shot and "the one that did it" was in the Neighborhood Watch, but otherwise hasn't followed the case. He was asked to come back Wednesday.

The first juror called Monday, identified as potential juror H-7, said he was aware that the case became a "brouhaha," but didn't understand why. H-7 said he'd seen photos of Zimmerman's injuries from the night of the shooting, and thought he "was in some altercation with someone."
The juror, an older white male, said the protests about the shooting were a "nuisance" locally, but he hasn't decided on Zimmerman's guilt or innocence. H-7 was also asked to return.

The bulk of the work in Nelson's courtroom since the start of trial has been jury selection, and the same was true each day last week. The focus today remained the same: pretrial publicity and what potential jurors know and how they feel about the Miami Gardens 17-year-old's death.



 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 17, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
http://www.marshfieldnewsherald.com/usatoday/article/2428157

Wickham: Lawyer for Trayvon's parents plays key role
Jun. 17, 2013 7:12 PM

SANFORD, FLA.  â?? Benjamin Crump, the highest profile lawyer in the Trayvon Martin murder case, is just a spectator in the courtroom where the man who killed the unarmed 17-year-old boy is about to be tried. But the soft-spoken attorney could play the biggest role in shaping the outcome of this racially tinged affair.

Crump is the legal adviser to Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, the divorced parents of the black teenager who was shot to death in February 2012 by George Zimmerman, a white Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer. Until the night young Martin and Zimmerman had their deadly encounter, Sanford was best known as the end of the line for Amtrak's Auto Train, which brings vacationers and their vehicles to central Florida. Now it is ground zero for a murder trial steeped in questions about vigilantism and racial profiling.

Crump has had a lot to do with putting this murder case on the media's radar. He held news conferences to demand Zimmerman's arrest, led marches that attracted the support of national activists such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and echoed his clients' demand for justice on national television.

With the disarming demeanor of a country lawyer, Crump first gained national attention in 2006 when he represented the family of Martin Lee Anderson, a 14-year-old boy who died after being roughed up by guards at a Florida boot camp for troubled youngsters. Crump's handling of that case caused the state to close the boot camps and give the Anderson family a $5 million settlement. The family also got $2.4 million from the county sheriff's department that ran the camp where Anderson died.

This year, Crump's push for justice in the Martin case resulted in the neighborhood association of the community where the teenager was killed to reach an out-of-court settlement  with his family. But as aggressive as Crump has been in seeking monetary compensation for Martin's family, he is even more tireless in his efforts to make this case less about race than the quest for justice.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 12:53:22 AM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/6/17/naacp_no_protesting_.html

NAACP: No protesting at George Zimmerman trial
Last Updated: Monday, June 17, 2013

ORLANDO --
While the George Zimmerman case continues in court in Sanford, a town hall meeting Monday night in Orlando focused on a number of key topics affecting the black community.

About 30 people packed into the NAACP branch headquarters in Orlando as community members took part in a discussion not only focusing on the George Zimmerman Trial but also their communities as a whole.

“We’re trying to get the community input as to what they think and they want to see when the NAACP leaves in July – things and issues that affect Orange County,” said branch president Kran Riley.

The issues like “Stand Your Ground” in Florida, as well as black crime and youth crime, were the main topics organizers wanted discussed.

The meeting is a mandate from the national office  - that local branches discuss these topics with the community.

During the George Zimmerman Trial, the NAACP says they do not want people showing up and protesting outside the courthouse.
 ::snipping3::
The 104th National NAACP Convention will take place in Orlando July 13.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 08:54:09 AM
Ill be out this morning but I'll be back after lunch and can help post tweets.  Thank you to all that have posted tweets, including grace-land and alagary. If anyone wants to post the twitter sources I've used, please help yourselves.  BBL   In advance:   ::monkeywine2::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2013, 10:47:55 AM
I checked this mornings tweets from the Orlando Sentinal;

Three so far
Don't know anything
Have know opinion
None have problem with sequester (happy to get out of whatever cave they live in)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
June 18 2013 Tweets cont
H81


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says civil cases won't affect his ability to be fair.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
It's unclear what the civil cases are that H81 has. They deal with home owners association and property rights.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 has two civil cases pending in front of Judge Nelson.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 questioning is over. Lawyers discussing at bench.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says "I carve my own path."  He adds his opinions are "studied ones." He's given very fair, logical, and straightforward  answers.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81: "I do wonder what happens to jurors after high profile cases." He sounds concerned about maintaining his anonymity.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Back to O'Mara. H81 is saying that he can factor in only evidence presented in court. H81 adds he was a juror before.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Judge Nelson just issued a warning about cellphones. Someone's Siri went off.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Mark O'Mara is now questioning H81.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says being a sequestered juror would be a "big inconvenience" but he could serve.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says he doesn't understand how people "galvanize" around high profile cases because they don't have enough info to form opinions.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81: I'm not trying to "apply" for a job as a juror. "Let's be clear."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says he recalls that Zimmerman was a community watch person and Martin was returning home wearing a hoodie. Says he has no opinion.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81: "You would have to live under a rock to not know about this case." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says he would describe the case as a young man who was killed after "an exchange" with another man.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says the shooting "polarized people" and in aftermath "a lot of emotions are very high on both sides." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says he didn't listen to any recordings from the shooting, just commentaries about recordings.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says he saw Mark O'Mara doing interviews but could weigh only evidence presented in court. "Everything else is just opinions," he says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H81 says he recalls seeing "talking heads" on In Session. He says his wife watches that channel a lot.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
H81 is a middle aged man of color with a shaved head and a blue collared shirt. He watches CNN and local news stations.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
The first potential juror "H81" is now being questioned. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2h 
@Oclark38 Morning!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 11:23:04 AM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
H69


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  45m 
Don West is done questioning H69.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  47m 
H69 says her pastor at church mentioned the shooting in a sermon about "salvation" and "accepting Christ."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  49m 
H69 says she's skeptical of the media and knows they rush to get information out that might not be always complete.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  51m 
West now questioning her about pictures of #TrayvonMartin as younger than he was.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  52m 
H69 says her doctor appointments take about 30 minutes and could be scheduled before 9 a.m. She stresses she wants family time.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  53m 
Don West is asking whether pregnant H69 could schedule appointments around sequestered jury duty. West says ppl could escort to doc appts

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  57m 
Don West is now questioning H69 who is five months pregnant with her first child. West says her family could visit if she's sequestered.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 says she is five and a half months pregnant with a baby girl and that serving on the jury would be a hardship.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 says she lives far from Sanford and that people in her community didn't really talk about the case.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 has said multiple times that she hasn't taken a side. She says her friends didn't discuss the shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 says she went on a leave of absence from work shortly after the shooting and didn't watch TV at home. Says she didn't see news.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
"Death happens all the time," says H69. She adds that she didn't pay attention to Martin's death because of that.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Lawyers have approached the bench in the middle of questioning H69.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 says she just finished college and had to do a lot of research. She said she's been focused on business since graduation.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 wrote on her jury questionnaire: "I do know Martin wasn't the young child originally painted by the media."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 says her coworker said pictures of #TrayvonMartin "weren't up to date" and they weren't  "accurate."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 has said several times that early pictures of #TrayvonMartin were younger than he actually was.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 is a big fan of the Wall Street Journal. She has a Facebook but says she didn't see news of the case on FB.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
H69 is a young woman who says she doesn't watch TV at home just at work.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
Next potential juror is H69.




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
H86


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  29m 
H86 has now left the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  29m 
O'Mara is now done and attorneys are discussing at bench.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  29m 
H86 says she's a churchgoer but hasn't heard any talk of the case in church.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  31m 
H86 says she can leave any information she's heard outside of court out of jury deliberations.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  33m 
H86 says she's heard about the #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin case about five times in news teasers and coworker discussions.
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  36m 
Summary of H86: She says she doesn't know very much about the case and doesn't pay attention to the news. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  36m 
H86 says she can deal with sequestration. Mark O'Mara questioning is up next.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  37m 
H86 says the media got a story about a family friend wrong six months ago. She thinks media sometimes gets it wrong.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  41m 
H86 says she hasn't talked about the case with family or coworkers. She says she hasn't come across the case on the Internet or YouTube.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  44m 
H86 says she hasn't talked about the case with family or on her Facebook page. She says she saw pictures of Zimmerman and Martin on TV.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  50m 
H86 says she got a TV two weeks ago and mostly saw news of the shooting online and at work.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  52m 
Juror H86 is up next. She's a young white woman with brown hair in a white blouse.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 11:42:06 AM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I5


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
I5 is a black man who grew up in the 1950s and 1960s who says black leaders coming to Sanford "stirred things up" unnecessarily.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I5 says black leaders who came to protests should have stayed where they were because they weren't necessary. "You have to let the law work"

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I5 on black leaders at protests: "I thought it may have done more harm than good" because it stirred feelings of the community.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
I5 says black leaders came to give support to people who were mad that Zimmerman hadn't been locked up.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
I5 says he's not on Facebook. "No social media for me," he says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
I5 says he discussed the case with wife but she didn't have an opinion about Zimmerman's guilt.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
I5 says he heard part of the recording of the 911 call but didn't determine whose voice was heard screaming.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
I5 says HLN was bias against #GeorgeZimmerman . "I don't see how you get a fair trial when everything has been slanted against you."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
I5 says he didn't see any pictures related to the shooting. Said he watched mainly CNN. He says HLN was "kind of out of control"

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  18m 
I5 says he remembers talk of a Florida law and marches and the idea that man who had shot was not "retained."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  21m 
Next potential juror is I5. He learned about the shooting mostly on local news. Saw some national news.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 18, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
Amazing...no one knows anything....no one has an opinion.
Until the questioning gets deeper, then little lies ... then some truth..
And then admissions of 'walking by the tv' or hearing other people at work discussing it but they "were too busy"  wtf?? I am amazed by the duplicity of people all the time.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 11:53:01 AM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I5


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
I5 says when he's watching TV with his wife, she's in control of the remote. Adds they have multiple TVs so he moves for different channels
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
I5 says he's fine serving as long as he can tell his employer.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Don West is now questioning I5.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
I5 description of shooting: "It wasn't that someone just walked up and shot someone. There was a scuffle." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 12:02:05 PM
Amazing...no one knows anything....no one has an opinion.
Until the questioning gets deeper, then little lies ... then some truth..
And then admissions of 'walking by the tv' or hearing other people at work discussing it but they "were too busy"  wtf?? I am amazed by the duplicity of people all the time.

Agree.  We might hear more in-depth questioning and responses in the next round.  I hope.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 12:06:28 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I5


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  44s 
Don West: Did you ever wonder if Zimmerman was black, whether he would have been arrested? I5: No. I generally don't think like that.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I5 says it hasn't been "proven" that there is a racial component to the #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
I5, an older black man, says he remembers marches from when he was a kid. They are emotional and become unnecessarily "racially charged."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
I5 says his family has not talked about the shooting. His family is very large and they talk about family issues, he says.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
June 18, 2013

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  26s 
Court is now in recess until 1:10 for lunch.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 12:45:50 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
H81

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/12SIQZS (http://bit.ly/12SIQZS)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says a lot of people were angry about the case. Says he hasn't commented on it in social media. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81: One side "grieving for the loss of their son," other side worried about "potential loss... a lot of people hurting." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 is aware of the audio-expert debate on 911 audio. Says it didn't form an impression on him. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 on what's presented in court: "That's what really matters. Everything else is just an opinion." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says he can "absolutely" disregard what he already knows about case if chosen to serve. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 3h
H81 looks like he's hispanic or light skinned black. 50s to 60s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 saw O'Mara press conferences. Says he thinks what O'Mara said was "more truthful than not." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
BDLR: Always trust media? H-81: "I do not." Says media are like normal people, giving "a view of the facts." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says after shooting "a lot of people were talking about it, including my family and friends." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says he heard there was an "incident" with #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin and "Mr. Martin ended up dead... very tragic situation."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 is first potential juror up today. Watches @CNN, @NBC, @WESH. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Attorneys back from bench. They hope to get to 40 jurors through pre-trial publicity today. At 32 now. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman arrives in court, which is back in session for jury selection. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/qKCi93Uk3T (http://pic.twitter.com/qKCi93Uk3T)
 View photo

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Here's the link for the livestream and chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW (http://bit.ly/14WdTOW)  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 01:12:56 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I14


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I14 is up next. He's a young white man in a buttoned black polo shirt.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Court is back in session.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:14:20 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H81
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says Nelson being on his civil cases "will not" change his approach to this case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 apparently has two pending civil cases before Judge Nelson. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
No more questions for H-81. Attorneys to the bench. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
O'Mara describes juror anonymity, will last through trial & additional "cooling off" period. H-81 says he's reassured. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H81: High profile wouldn't change verdict but "I do wonder what happens to jurors after high-profile cases." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81: "I was a juror once before." Had a question about evidence, & was told could only rely on what'd been presented. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Somebody's iPhone made noise. Judge asked whose. Crickets from the gallery.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81: Being sequestered would be a "big inconvenience, but yes" I could serve. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says he's not trying to apply for a job as a juror. Thinks people are too quick to "galvanize" w/o all facts. #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 on cases like this, "most of the time, I take the unpopular position... you can't possibly know." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81: Media reported #GeorgeZimmerman was "some sort of community watch," which "led to this exchange" with #TrayvonMartin.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-81 says you'd have to live under a rock to not know about this. Not the 1st possible juror to say that. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:16:01 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H69
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11vzInO  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 on #TrayvonMartin: "I don't even know how old he was." Doesn't remember which coworker made photo comment. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 says "I can't recall the photograph that I saw," but coworker's comment apparently made an impression. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimemrman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 says coworker pointed out age of photo to show media "wasn't providing all" the info. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69: Early reports showed "a picture of a young child," but coworker told her that's "not accurate." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 reads the Wall Street Journal, is on Facebook but doesn't recall seeing anything there about case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 3h
H69 is a white female w a mix of hispanic or asian. In her 30s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 wrote on questionnaire that she knew #TrayvonMartin is not the young person initially "painted" by the media. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 is next. Saw info about case on TV at work. Knew #GeorgeZimmerman killed #TrayvonMartin in Sanford.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:19:07 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H69
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Defense attorney Don West is through questioning H-69, attorneys approach bench. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-69: Sermon about #TrayvonMartin shooting didn't delve into specifics, was about "people dying and accepting Christ before you die."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-69 says she's skeptical of the media. Pastor at her church mentioned case in sermon.  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-69 on sequestration: "I could make it work" as long as still in communication w/family. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-69 says she could make doctor appointments early enough to get back in time for court. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Darryl E. Owens ‏@osDarrylEOwens 2h
Join our #GeorgeZimmerman chat, watch live video and follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11vBLIC  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 said being sequestered wouldn't be a financial hardship, because her job would still pay her salary. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 3h
H69: I'm 5 1/2 mo pregnant w/ my 1st child, so being tied up in this trial wud be a hardship. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69: Hardship of being sequestered is being away from family. H-69 is 5 mos pregnant, apparently. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 on #TrayvonMartin & #GeorgeZimmerman: "The only reason I know both names is because I'm here."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 says she's not leaning either way. Says she doesn't talk about case to her family. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69: "No I haven't formed a concrete opinion" on guilt or innocence, or leaning one way. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 says she only heard about the case when it 1st happened. Has been on leave of absence lately. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3h
H-69 on "people losing their life" in general: "It's sad but it happens all the time." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:21:36 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
H86
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Judge Nelson: 15 minute recess. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Mark O'Mara done with questioning of H-86. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86: If other juror brought up something not presented in court, I'd "tell them that it's not to be used." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86 says she only got a TV 2 weeks ago, coworkers discussed the case but she didn't. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Bernie de la Rionda: Could you be sequestered? H-86: "I believe I could." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86 says media coverage of something involving someone she knew was slanted. Left her skeptical. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11vBLIC  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86 saw pics of the faces of those involved in case, didn't hear recordings. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2h
3rd juror today: H86, tall willowy woman who just got a tv 2 weeks ago. Main source of news on this: friends' talk. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86 says she's into current events, but "certain cases and things I don't follow." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86 is on Facebook. Didn't see stories or comments there about this case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
H-86 saw pics of the faces of those involved in case, didn't hear recordings. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 2h
H86 is a white female in her 20s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:23:04 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman Trial: Pictures from Day Seven | http://bit.ly/11vIkef (http://bit.ly/11vIkef)  #TrayvonMartin (via @OSPhoto's @JoeBurb)
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11vHdLD (http://bit.ly/11vHdLD)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Depending on how the attorneys felt about H-69 serving while pregnant, could be up to 35 potential jurors. They want 40 before next round.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 01:23:44 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
H14


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I14 says he thinks media "favored #TrayvonMartin " He says some people went on "rants." I14 thought it was "just another big case."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
I14 says some friends said he "might be on the Zimmerman case." He responded, "maybe."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
I14 said he heard Zimmerman said he was attacked and that Martin didn't have a weapon.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:25:24 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I5
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 can't recall the name of Florida's "stand your ground" law, seems frustrated he can't remember. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says protests may have "done more harm than good," but says he won't hold that against state. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says protesters were upset that #GeorgeZimmerman wasn't "locked up." Didn't think protests were needed. "You have to let the law work."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5: "I don't waste my time with the social media stuff." Wife does use social media. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
I-5 says he saw pics of #TrayvonMartin, TV "always showed the one with him wearing" hoodie. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
I-5: @HLN was slanted against #GeorgeZimmerman, "prosecuting a person before they've had their day in court." @CNN better. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
@BFriedkin Just a guess, but I'm thinking Monday latest. They're getting close to finishing pretrial publicity phase.
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 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2h
4th juror of the day: I-5. Black man , 50ish. "That's just general knowledge." that #Zimmerman says he acted in self-defense. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
I-5 says at one point he tried out @HLN, but didn't like it: "kinda out of control for me." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
I-5 watches news about 7 p.m., after work. Says he hasn't seen photographs. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
I-5: Heard "the gentleman that was defending himself" was not "retained," leading to controversy. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 2h
I5 is a black male 50s to 60s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Next juror is I-5, watches local & national news. Wrote on questionnaire he heard case was "self defense." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:27:37 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I5
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Time for lunch! Court in recess until 1:10 p.m. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Sorry tweeps, I was using @HLN in earlier tweets, but apparently their handle is actually @HLNTV.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
West: Was #TrayvonMartin shooting racial? I-5: "At this point, I would say no," because that hasn't been proven. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 on protests: "I just didn't think that having the national black leaders in the community was necessary at that time." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@BiancaMPrieto It definitely turned heads in the newsroom. #TraceyAnthony
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says he heard #TrayvonMartin's family is from Miami, he was here with his dad. Knows #GeorgeZimmerman was in Neighborhood Watch.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says he wouldn't have discussed case with family, "We just don't talk about those things." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says he followed the #CaseyAnthony case, but calls her "Tracey Anthony." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says he heard press conference with #TrayvonMartin's family, but didn't listen specifically or pick up details. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 1h
I5 says wife watches FOX35.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
West: You'd pick @CNN, but when you watch with your wife, she picks? I-5: "Well, yeah." Laughs. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
West now questioning I-5 for the defense. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5: Hardship of being sequestered is "not insurmountable." Needs to talk to employer, make arrangements. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
I-5 says he'd tell a friend of case: There was a "scuffle," someone died. "Still being tried in the courts." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18WkXD5 (http://bit.ly/18WkXD5)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I14
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18WL8cK  (http://bit.ly/18WL8cK) #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-14: Friends talked about case: "Did Zimmerman have a right to shoot #TrayvonMartin?" Was TM suspicious? #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: You were still in school when shooting happened? I-14: "Yes," high school. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
I-14 says he saw someone on HLN who "seemed in favor of #TrayvonMartin's side." State done questioning. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
I-14 says he heard some were "really upset," but to him it was "just another big case." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
I-14 says he doesn't always trust media, doesn't have a guilt-or-innocence opinion on #GeorgeZimmerman. #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 16m
1st prospective juror of afternoon: I-14, a very nervous, very young white man. Might be teenager. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
I-14 says he heard #TrayvonMartin "didn't have a weapon on him," #GeorgeZimmerman claimed self-defense.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
I-14 says he heard #GeorgeZimmerman "called the police when he was following #TrayvonMartin," & police said to stop.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
I-14 is, I think, the first potential juror to say he uses AOL for news. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
Court's back on. Next juror: I-14. Heard #TrayvonMartin was shot "by a man on neighborhood watch." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Details from this morning: http://bit.ly/16dwmsP  (http://bit.ly/16dwmsP) #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection resumes at 1:10 p.m. | Stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz (http://bit.ly/10EhrEz)  Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW   (http://bit.ly/14WdTOW)#TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1bRTU7R (http://bit.ly/1bRTU7R)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
@BiancaMPrieto In my defense, how does HLN not own @HLN? Like if the Orlando Sentinel didn't own OS. Oh wait...
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 01:31:35 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
H14


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  50s 
I14 says after students at his school talked about the shooting, he went home to talk with his mother and watched the news.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
I14 said students discussed whether Zimmerman had a right to shoot Martin and whether Martin was doing anything suspicious.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Mark O'Mara now questioning I14, who was still in high school when shooting happened.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:39:56 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I14
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19s
O'Mara asks I-14 what percentage of friends were pro- #TrayvonMartin. I-14: The majority, "maybe 70 percent." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-14 on convos with his mom: "We didn't really talk about (the case) much after it was first on the news." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
I-14 says he heard #TrayvonMartin "felt scared and attacked" #GeorgeZimmerman. Heard TM hit GZ in the nose.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
I-14 says some friends were anti #GeorgeZimmerman, others thought it was a "self-defense case" #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
I-14 knows #GeorgeZimmerman was on Neighborhood Watch. Hasn't talked to friends about case "within this year." #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 01:47:33 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I14


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
I14 said about 70% of friends sided with #TrayvonMartin Some said Martin "felt scared."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
I14 says his mom said Zimmerman shot Martin and that Martin wasn't armed. He says he can't remember other conversations with his mom on this

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
I14 says some friends thought Zimmerman should go to jail and others thought he acted in self defense.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-14


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara is done with I14 questions. Lawyers discussing.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I14 says he and his mom also talked about Zimmerman possibly being attacked. The young man says his mom never gave money to Martin causes.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
I14 says he can rely on information presented in the courtroom.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:57:19 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I14
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
I-14: I was a HS junior when this happened. 70 percent of his friends thought #Trayvon was innocent. Said #Zimmerman wrong to follow him.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
The lawyers in screengrab, L to R: Don West, Lorna Truett, Mark O'Mara of defense, John Guy, Bernie de la Rionda & Richard Mantei for state.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Screengrab: Attorneys at bench after I-14 questioning. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/E9Ep4QBk9v (http://pic.twitter.com/E9Ep4QBk9v)
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18WPqAG (http://bit.ly/18WPqAG)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-14 says he heard #TrayvonMartin had hoodie on and hood up, and "that made him look more suspicious." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
I-14 says he's not going to base his verdict on "one detail," could set aside what he already knows. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
I-14 on pic of #TrayvonMartin: It seemed to be from "maybe a couple years ago... he just looked younger" than 17. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 01:58:48 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I14
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18WRgl2 (http://bit.ly/18WRgl2)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 4m
I-14: I was a HS junior when this happened. 70 percent of his friends thought #Trayvon was innocent. Said #Zimmerman wrong to follow him.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:03:17 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-14


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Whether his mother had talked about signing a petition or donating to anyone in the case. He said she had not. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Defense team found something on line and showed it to the judge and she sent I-14 out of court for now. Defense had asked 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Or at least in #Zimmerman 's direction.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
Lawyers are at bench. I-14 is giving long looks at #Zimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:05:43 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I19

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Next juror up is I-19. Heard #TrayvonMartin was shot by someone on Neighborhood watch. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman's wife, Shellie, in court today (with cameo by @TonyPipitone). #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/BjM3LdA36q (http://pic.twitter.com/BjM3LdA36q)
 View photo

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman with jury consultant at defense table during long sidebar. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/IqHYn1yyII (http://pic.twitter.com/IqHYn1yyII)
 View photo


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:06:38 PM
June 18, 2012 Tweets cont
I-14


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  34s 
It appears I-14 is gone. The defense found something it appears on line not sure what.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
I-19 is a white woman who appears to be in her 20's.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:08:42 PM
June 18, 2012 Tweets cont
I-14


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  34s 
It appears I-14 is gone. The defense found something it appears on line not sure what.


Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
I-19 is a white woman who appears to be in her 20's.


I hope we find out what this "something" is.  Inquiring minds want to know! 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:09:44 PM
June 18, 2012 Tweets cont
I-14


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  34s 
It appears I-14 is gone. The defense found something it appears on line not sure what.


Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
I-19 is a white woman who appears to be in her 20's.


I hope we find out what this "something" is.  Inquiring minds want to know! 

Maybe an article will mention it today.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:10:58 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I19
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Sequestration an insurmountable hardship? I-19 says yes: "I have to work," paid hourly. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
I-19 doesn't like news: "I don't watch the news, I don't read the news... I don't have any care about it." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
I-19 says her boss is "extremely interested in the case," but they don't talk about it. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 7m
I19 is a white female in her late teens-early 20s. #fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
I-19 saw pictures of #TrayvonMartin & #GeorgeZimmerman.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
I-19 says she knows "bare minimum" about case. Adds: "I don't watch the news," but her mother does. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:14:29 PM
Just curious, but I wonder if I19's boss has formed an opinion on the case, and if so, which way?   :2thinky:

June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I19
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-19 says her boss is "jealous" that I-19 could be a #GeorgeZimmerman juror. "She wants to be here." #TrayvonMartin   ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-19


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Prosecutor is done with I19 and now Don West is up.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  16m 
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman's wife, Shellie, in court today (with cameo by @TonyPipitone). #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/BjM3LdA36q
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  34s 
I19 says she hasn't formed an opinion about the shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I19 says her boss said she was jealous and wished she could be on the #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin jury.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I19 says she doesn't know how she would pay her bills because her job doesn't pay her to be in court. She lives with her mom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Prosecutor: Are you excited about being here? Potential Juror I19: No. (Also frowned.) #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
I19 is a young white woman with dark brown hair wearing a white blazer. She has her hair in a high nice looking bun.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/18/george-zimmerman-trial_n_3458859.html
George Zimmerman Trial Live Updates: Potential Juror Excused After Revealing Donation To Defense
June 18, 2013

A prospective juror in the George Zimmerman case was excused Monday after he admitted donating $20 to Zimmerman's online legal defense fund.

The prospective juror, a middle-aged white man whose daughter is a Nevada police officer, said on the witness stand that he felt bad for Zimmerman.

"It just seemed like he was an underdog ... I kind of felt sorry for him," the man, identified in court as H-27, said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:19:18 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I19
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: Are you worried about finances if selected? I-19:  "Very much so" but "I would try to work it out." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: You seem stressed. I-19: "No, I'm cold, I'm sorry." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:26:58 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont.
I19
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39s
I-19 says #TrayvonMartin shooting "was such a big deal in the news." Heard there was a "walk" to honor deceased. #GeorgeZimmerman


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Summary of juror compensation, in case #GeorgeZimmerman/ #TrayvonMartin jury selection watchers are (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rkt43g  (http://tl.gd/n_1rkt43g)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:30:22 PM
June 18, 2012 Tweets cont
I-19


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I19 says she guesses the case is a big deal because it's still going on. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
@JaJasTweets @rzimmermanjr  They do get compensated. They get between $15 and $30 per day in this county.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Summary of juror compensation, in case #GeorgeZimmerman/ #TrayvonMartin jury selection watchers are (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rkt43g
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
  Expand     

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
I19 says she doubts she could get financial help from her mother if she's picked to be on the jury.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
I19 says she'd be very worried about paying her bills if picked to be on the jury. Said she could try to ask family to help.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:38:21 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-19


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I19 is done. Lawyers a discussing.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I19 says her initial reaction was that #GeorgeZimmerman had done something wrong. She "assumed" Zimmerman would be going to jail.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
I19 says she wishes she could trade places with her boss who wants to be on #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin jury.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-24


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
I 24 is up. She is a white woman who appears to be in her 30's. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
June 18, 2013 Twitter Cont.
I19
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 7m
Heard from 7 potential jurors so far today. Its going faster.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Stream: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz  Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1bSmwhl  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
I-19 says she assumed initially #GeorgeZimmerman would be going to jail. Based on what she knows, still feels that way. #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
I-19: #TrayvonMartin's death is sad, but "I don't know him" so don't have "emotional attachment." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
I-19 says her mother doesn't want her to miss work for jury duty. I-19 doesn't make enough as it is. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
West: When you got summons, you knew it could be #GeorgeZimmerman case? I-19: "No. My mom did, though." Wasnt' happy. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
@LeviDavisMMI As far as I know, it's just $15.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
I-19 on marches: "I would assume that they would take place somewhere, but I don't know where." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:48:42 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I24
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36s
I-24 says the media "makes a lot of stories," she doesn't always trust media. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-24: Says she heard in news #GeorgeZimmerman wasn't injured, but later saw pics of face injuries. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-24 says she heard #TrayvonMartin was shot by someone "patrolling" the subdivision. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
I-24 says she followed the case in the beginning, then "I just kinda tuned out." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 5m
I24 is a white female in her 60s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Next up: I-24. Bernie de la Rionda up first, for the state. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 02:50:41 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-24


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I24 says news originally said Zimmerman didn't have any injuries and then later media showed photos of Zimmerman's injuries.

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I24 says she heard about the case on TV. She says she heard that a young man was killed by another man "patrolling" a subdivi

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I24 is a middle aged white woman who wears glasses and has her hair pulled back.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
I19 is done and I24 is up next.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 02:58:54 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I24
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-24 says something happened that caused #GeorgeZimmerman "to feel that he needed to defend himself." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: How would you describe case? I-24: "young man lost his life and another man is fighting for his life." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Joe Burbank ‏@joeburb 4m
New photos from Courtroom 5D in Sanford, Fla. on Day 7 of the #georgezimmerman trial. • http://bit.ly/100oeuW (http://bit.ly/100oeuW)   #zimmerman #trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
I-24 says her kids get her on Facebook once in a blue moon. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@True_Thoughts @vboey Yes, I just counted again. This is the 7th person today.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
I-24 says her coworkers thought #GeorgeZimmerman was guilty: "They would say, 'Ah, he's gotta be guilty.'" #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 03:04:25 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-24


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
There are six people now in the public seating area. Down from 11 this morning. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I24 says she understood the shooting as a parent. "I cannot imagine losing my child," she says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
"A young man lost his life and another man is fighting for his life," says I24 on description of shooting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
I24 says she heard in the media that #GeorgeZimmerman was shot in self defense and that he thought Martin was suspicious

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  12m 
I24 says several coworkers thought Zimmerman was guilty. She however said she didn't know enough to form an opinion.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 03:09:23 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I24
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-24 says "what the media reports is what they first hear," sometimes doesn't fully research. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
I-24 on following this case: "It got tiring after a while." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Asked about being sequestered, I-24 says she can be. "My children are all grown." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11vBLIC (http://bit.ly/11vBLIC)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-24 says she heard that #GeorgeZimmerman was "involved in" the Neighborhood Watch. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 03:11:07 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I24
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-24 says media is only now reporting #TrayvonMartin "wasn't the innocent young man" initially portrayed. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-24 continues: Media rush to judgment "does a disservice to people who are fighting for their lives." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 03:12:46 PM
June 18, 2012 Tweets cont
I-24


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I24 on #TrayvonMartin : "He's a teenager. No child is perfect."
   
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
I24 tells O'Mara that she likes keeping up with the news but got sick of #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin news. "It got tiring after a while"

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Prosecutor: Can you handle being sequestered? I24: Laughs. Yes. But I rather not be.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 03:19:43 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-24

 
https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  48s 
Court is taking a 15 minute recess.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I24 is done and out of courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I24: "No one is a winner in this case."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 03:40:00 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-33


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  28s 
I-33 says he felt compassion for #TrayvonMartin & #GeorgeZimmerman, but the more he heard the less he wanted to hear. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
And we're back. Potential juror I-33 is a white male, who appears to be in his 60s. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 03:44:49 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-33


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  40s 
I33 remembers seeing Zimmerman getting in the police station and recently in a regular picture.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I33 says he saw Martin in the "most publicized" way, in a hoodie.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I33 is an older white man with a white goatee and blue collared shirt. He says she felt "compassion" for both Zimmerman and Martin.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I33 says he reads the print copy of the Orlando Sentinel and local news.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Court is back in session. I33 is up next.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 03:50:25 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I24
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
Court is in a short recess. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 36m
I-24 on #GeorgeZimmerman case: "A young man lost his life, another man is fighting for his life, and no one is a winner in this case."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I33
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR asks I-33 if family gave opinion on what should happen due to #TrayvonMartin shooting. I-33: "Not on that exact thing, no sir."

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@bullsfan531 Different room. Can't hear each other being questioned for this phase.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
I-33 says he heard that getting a June 10 summons meant he might be on this case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
I-33 heard there was "some controversy as to who was doing the screaming" in 911 call. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-33 says he heard there was a 911 call, but "I don't believe I ever heard it." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-33 remembers seeing #GeorgeZimmerman getting out of a police car, also saw a more recent photo. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
I-33: "I know it happened at night... they got in a fight." Adds: "I have no idea" why. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
I-33 says he felt "compassion for both entities," #TrayvonMartin & #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
I-33 says he reads the @OrlandoSentinel (!!!). Hasn't kept up with the case though. "Not really." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 16m
I33 is a white male 50s to 60s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
Next up: I-33. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
The next potential juror will be today's 8th. If everyone we've heard from today is going forward (unclear), that'd be 40. #GeorgeZimmerman

 myfoxorlando ‏@MyFoxOrlando 29m
Talking #georgezimmerman trial with @judgealexferrer today at #fox35 at 5pm. @bfrier
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I33
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-33 on Facebook: "I'm challenged in that respect... I have a very small family and none of us do that." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
I-33: Public reaction "went kinda both ways... There was a lot of overreaction, possibly..." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-33


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Don West is now questioning I33.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  52s 
I33 says he can serve and can deal with being sequestered. Adds he's unemployed right now.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I33 says he thinks some overreacted to the shooting. Adds there was "heavy talking" from people on both sides of the case.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Prosecutor: Did you hear commentary about this case? I33: "You hear it everywhere.. Just walking down the street."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  11m 
I33 says he heard screaming from 911 call but didn't decide who it may have been.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2013, 04:07:50 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-saVCt5KuNEs/URpZG_er1uI/AAAAAAAABeM/cXYdhKAYfQA/s1600/sgtshultz3.jpeg)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-33


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I33 says he lives in "the middle of nowhere" but has heard comments and opinions on both sides on the fence. He has an open mind, he says.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I33 was hurt in a car crash and hasn't worked since because of physical recovery he needs.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
I33 says he doesn't have a Facebook page. "I just learned how to email...It's enlightening." Laughs in courtroom again.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
I33 is second juror who admits he's not in charge of the remote at home. First guy said his wife picks the channels. Laughs in courtroom 2xs


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:11:38 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-saVCt5KuNEs/URpZG_er1uI/AAAAAAAABeM/cXYdhKAYfQA/s1600/sgtshultz3.jpeg)

Potential jurors?   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 04:12:28 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-saVCt5KuNEs/URpZG_er1uI/AAAAAAAABeM/cXYdhKAYfQA/s1600/sgtshultz3.jpeg)

 :salut:


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 04:14:21 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I33
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 6m
I-33: a folksy country fella. "I live in the middle of nowhere." Contractor who can't work due to car crash injuries. #Trayvon #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL   Reply  Retweet  Favorite   More

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
I-33 on avoiding talk, media coverage of case: "It's tough," but says he has "not formed an opinion." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
I-33 says he's heard "comments and opinions" from "both sides of the fence." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-33 said he heard Sanford's police chief lost his job, but doesn't know why. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Kathryn Varn ‏@kathrynvarn 12m
I-33 says reading the @orlandosentinel is part of his routine. Go newspapers! #Zimmerman #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
I-33 says he hasn't been able to work in a while, was injured in a car crash. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
I-33: I just learned how to email recently. West: "Welcome to the 21st Century." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
I-33 to West: "I'm not in control of the (channel) changer." Reads the paper "most days." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-44


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
We're back and potential juror I-44 is being questioned by prosecution. He's a Hispanic male, appears to be in his 40s



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 04:15:58 PM
June 18, 2013 Twitter Cont.
I44
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-44 remembers hearing #GeorgeZimmerman's jail calls were scrutinized. Also story about Skittles capitalizing on case. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-44 says the only opinion he gives on the case is asking how long media will "avalanche us with this." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
I-44 doesn't find TV news credible, says he gets his news online. Says media slants the news. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18WRgl2  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 5m
I44 is an hispanic male in his 40s.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Next up is I-44, who's asked to confirm he has no fixed opinion on case: "That is correct." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:19:03 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-44


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I44 says he can remember a story that was "sensationalized about the skittles company."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I44 is a man who is 30 or 40 years old with black hair and a goatee. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
I33 is done and I44 is up.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I44
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 39s
I-44 says he knew of protests, but no strong feelings. "As Americans we have the right to peaceful protest." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Likely I-44 was referring to Zimmerman's non-emergency call from night of the shooting, based on how he described it.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-44 recalls "snippets" of a 911 call, "banter between Mr. Zimmerman and the 911 operator." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
I-44 says he heard #GeorgeZimmerman "turned himself in." Heard "comical" edit of audio in case on radio. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I44
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-44: I realized this was "another drawn out case the local media is going to absolutely hit us with." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
I-44 calls being sequestered inconvenient but "far from insurmountable." State done w/questions, defense up. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
I-44 says he'd describe the case as "a shooting," add that they'll be a hearing to "find out what happened." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont
I-44


https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I44: "Everyone has an opinion and they all stink." O'Mara is done questioning him.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
I44 says he's a "sports nut" and doesn't want to get consumed in "media hyped cases."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
I44 says he remembers seeing a computer animation of what may have happened the night of the shooting on CNN.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
I44 says he has a "blended" family and tried to keep "avalanche" of coverage of this case out of his home.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
I44 lives in Lake Mary and was caught sometimes in traffic caused by #TrayvonMartin rallies. He says he wouldn't factor that in if picked.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
I44 says he remembers someone put recordings from the case to music as a joke.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:39:42 PM
June 18, 2012 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  20s 
We're officially ready for round 2 of jury selection. Lawyers have agreed on 40 people whose news exposure is acceptable if they are jurors

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Judge Nelson says they have found 40 potential jurors for regular voir dire.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 04:40:41 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets Cont.
I44

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 46s
... G14 G29 G47 G63 G66 G81 H6 H7 H18 H29 H35 H81 H69 H86 UI5 I19 I 24 I33 I44. Again, that's just a rough list, will need to confirm.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
The list, as I hastily copied it down: B12 B29 B76 B7 B35 B37 B51 B86 E6 E40 E54 E73 M75 B61 B72 E22 E13 E28 K80 K95 P67...

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Breaking: #GeorgeZimmerman jury selection hits milestone: 40 jurors for second phase of jury selecion. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
They've reached the magic number: "We have those 40." Can move on to next stage of questioning. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Nelson now questioning #GeorgeZimmerman on whether he agrees with his attorneys on juror decisions. "Yes, your honor." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues | Updated story: http://bit.ly/18XoSiZ (http://bit.ly/18XoSiZ)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-44 says his friends are divided on the case, but that's not a problem: If he loses friends, "so be it." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
I-44 says "many of my friends" are wrapped into the news, he's not. Calls himself a "sports nut." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
I-44 saw a computerized recreation of the shooting in media, but "their credibility in my eyes is next to nothing." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 04:55:42 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Judge says regular voir dire will start tomorrow at 9 a.m. Potential jurors will be questioned individually in front of the group, I'm told.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Also in 2nd round: G47, G63, G66, G81,  H6, H7, H18, H29, H35, H81, H69, H86, I5, I19, I24, I33, and I44.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
The second list of potential jurors as I have it: B12 B29 B76 B7 B35 B37 B51 B86 E6 E40 E73 M75 B61 B72 E22 E13 E28 K80 K95 P67 G14 G29 cont

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Judge has called people who were questioned today. Only one person was cut today after questioning, I14.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 05:01:40 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Lawyers are now discussing some issue at the bench. Meanwhile State Attorney Angela Corey is sitting patiently by.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
And yes, H69 who is 5 months pregnant and stressed that she needed family contact if sequestered made the cut to round two of jury selection

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
I14 who was dismissed today was a high school student when shooting occurred. Said he heard most of the news from classmates and his mother.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 05:06:11 PM
June 18, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Court is in recess until tomorrow at 9 a.m.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 18, 2013, 05:27:23 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-pool-20130618,0,6341800.story?page=1

George Zimmerman trial: Pool of 40 prospective jurors chosen
16 men, 24 women in pool
5:15 p.m. EDT, June 18, 2013

Prosecutors and defense attorneys have settled on 40 prospective jurors to move on to the second round of questioning in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial. The prospective panel is made up of 16 men and 24 women. They were chosen after being questioned about potential hardships that could keep them from serving — and what they knew about the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last year in Sanford.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 18, 2013, 05:31:41 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-pool-20130618,0,3070601,full.story
George Zimmerman trial: Pool of 40 prospective jurors chosen
16 men, 24 women in pool

June 18, 2013

Prosecutors and defense attorneys have settled on 40 prospective jurors to move on to the second round of questioning in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial.
 ::snipping3::

B-12: A middle-aged white woman who works the graveyard shift. She likes the crime-forensics show CSI and said she'd heard Zimmerman was following Trayvon.

B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has seven children and lived in Chicago at time of shooting.

B-76: A white middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an "altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off."

B-7: A middle-aged white man who listens to NPR. He remembered when Florida implemented its "stand your ground" law and the debate about whether it was needed.


B-35: A middle-aged black man who owns a vending business. He was critical of the Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and says this case is not racial.

B-37: A middle-aged white woman who works for a chiropractor and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as "rioting."

B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said "I'm not rigid in my thinking."

B-86: A middle-aged white woman who works at a middle school. She said if Trayvon had not been "expelled" from school in Dade County — he was actually suspended — "this could have been prevented."

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed.

E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries.

E-73: A middle-aged white woman active in Sanford's arts community, who is raising her late brother's 15- and 18-year-old children. The media interjected race in this case, she said.

M-75: A young African-American woman who says many of her friends have opinions on the case, but she doesn't.

B-61: A young white woman who remembered that "after the protesters, it seemed to turn more into a racial issue...I don't think it's a racial issue."

B-72: A young man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be "brainwashed."

E-22: A middle-aged African-American woman who said that after the shooting Sanford police should have booked Zimmerman and asked him more questions.

E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs. She heard the shooting was a "racial thing."

E-28: A middle-aged white woman who works as a nurse. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt.

K-80: A middle-aged white woman with children who has not followed the case. She considers the "racial undertones" in the case "disturbing."

K-95: A middle-aged woman who's a full-time student and "IT geek" with two children. She was critical of protests calling for Zimmerman's arrest.

P-67: A native of Mexico who seemed eager to serve on the jury, describing it as a civic duty. "Some people think it is a racist thing," he said of the shooting.

G-14: A middle-aged white woman. "I remember a lot of anger, a lot of people upset that Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested immediately."

G-29: A young black woman who has lived in Seminole County eight months. "There is a lot of racial tension built up," she said, but she "stayed away from it."

G-47: A young white man who works as assistant manager at restaurant. Zimmerman appears to be "stuck in the worst situation" possible, he said.

G-63: A young, unemployed man who described himself as "mixed race." He knew few details about the case but denounced stereotyping and said people sometimes interject race into cases.

G-66: A retired white woman who cares for her toddler grandson and moved to Central Florida in 2011. When she saw photos of Zimmerman's injuries, "I felt sorry for him."

G-81: A tall black man who lives less than a half mile from the scene of the shooting. There is a racial divide in Sanford, he said, but the media has misportrayed the city.

H-6: A young white man who heard the phone call Zimmerman made to police before the shooting. "He sounded like he was concerned for his neighborhood."

H-7: A red-haired man about age 50 in a business suit who recalled "a big brouhaha in Sanford," described protesters as "a nuisance" and said, "I still don't know why it became a high profile case."

H-18: A handsome, muscled, dark-skinned man in his 20s with an accent who's a mechanic, owns his shop with a partner and moved here from Kuwait. He said he avoids discussing certain topics. "When it's politics, religion or race, I just don't get involved."

H-29: A white-haired man who described national civil rights leaders who led protests in Sanford "a little circus come to town." It was "negative for the city," he said. "That honestly turned me off."

H-35: A young woman who said she knows little about the case. She "liked" a photo of Trayvon on Facebook. Needs to move by the end of June, which she said would be a hardship.

H-81: He described the shooting as an "incident" between Zimmerman and Trayvon, and "Mr. Martin ended up dead." H-81 called the shooting a "very tragic situation." He has two pending civil cases before Nelson.

H-69: A five-months-pregnant woman who said she saw news about the case on television at work. She mentioned several times that she recalled seeing pictures of Trayvon as "a young child" in the media.

H-86: A young white woman, who said she knows almost nothing about the case. H-86 says she keeps up with current events, but "certain cases and things I don't follow."

I-5: A middle-aged African American man, he said he heard self-defense was involved with the case, at one point referring to Zimmerman as "the gentleman that was defending himself."

I-19: A young white woman identified as I-19, who said she hasn't followed the case and knows only the basic details: "I don't watch the news, I don't read the news," she said.

I-24: An older white woman who said she followed the case at first, but then "I just kinda tuned out." Describe the case as "a young man lost his life and another man is fighting for his life."

I-33: Older white man, who said "the more I heard, the less I wanted to hear." Heard there was a 911 call involved in the case, and "some controversy as to who was doing the screaming" heard in it.

I-44: A father of three who said he's highly skeptical of the media and its "negativity." He called himself a "sports nut."



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 18, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
I can not see putting the rest of my life before this group of fools.
Many say that while all their friends talked about it they have no opinion.
Some say it's a racial thing. Sadly that is a part of it but it might go the other way.
H-18  "When it's politics, religion or race, I just don't get involved."
I-19   "I don't watch the news, I don't read the news,"

After what we have seen about Florida juries I would ask that the judge decide the case.
No offense intended to flamom and the rest but your neighbors got problems.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: cadillac on June 18, 2013, 07:43:49 PM
I can not see putting the rest of my life before this group of fools.
Many say that while all their friends talked about it they have no opinion.
Some say it's a racial thing. Sadly that is a part of it but it might go the other way.
H-18  "When it's politics, religion or race, I just don't get involved."
I-19   "I don't watch the news, I don't read the news,"

After what we have seen about Florida juries I would ask that the judge decide the case.
No offense intended to flamom and the rest but your neighbors got problems.


How many of the potential jurors are "liars" about how they feel. Or what they know?

Only takes one... Just saying.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Amys Sister on June 18, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
I can not see putting the rest of my life before this group of fools.
Many say that while all their friends talked about it they have no opinion.
Some say it's a racial thing. Sadly that is a part of it but it might go the other way.
H-18  "When it's politics, religion or race, I just don't get involved."
I-19   "I don't watch the news, I don't read the news,"

After what we have seen about Florida juries I would ask that the judge decide the case.
No offense intended to flamom and the rest but your neighbors got problems.


How many of the potential jurors are "liars" about how they feel. Or what they know?

Only takes one... Just saying.

 ::rhino:: ::rhino::

So true it's a little scary.  For both sides.

... and fascinating to see how the trial develops.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2013, 12:45:49 AM
I can not see putting the rest of my life before this group of fools.
Many say that while all their friends talked about it they have no opinion.
Some say it's a racial thing. Sadly that is a part of it but it might go the other way.
H-18  "When it's politics, religion or race, I just don't get involved."
I-19   "I don't watch the news, I don't read the news,"

After what we have seen about Florida juries I would ask that the judge decide the case.
No offense intended to flamom and the rest but your neighbors got problems.

I agree with you. I have been saying all along that these people are full of cr*p
It is not fair to the defendant or the deceased. No matter what side you are leaning towards, the duplicity of the juror wannabe's is unethical at the very least. I have met some of the strangest people here in Florida...any WalMart, any night... they are there.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:06:50 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/18/ddhln.01.html
DR. DREW
Arias Jurors Make Major Announcement; Trust Fund Kid on Trial; 911 Call Key To Zimmerman Case
Aired June 18, 2013 - 21:00   ET


 ::snipping3::
VINNIE POLITAN, HLN ANCHOR: Coming up top of the hour on "HLN After Dark," our first bold question for our jurors, our potential jurors, was George Zimmerman a good neighbor?

RYAN SMITH, HLN ANCHOR: All right. Not only that. Once we saw that one, we`re going to talk about would George Zimmerman have called police if Trayvon Martin were White? Now, you mentioned potential jurors. We`ve got 12. We`re going to get down to six before the show is over.

POLITAN: Which six will make it? You`ll find out top of the hour. "HLN After Dark."

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
 ::snipping3::


Next, the 911 calls from the night Trayvon Martin died. Exactly who is yelling for the help? They were in court today.
 ::snipping3::

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re talking about the 911 recording where there`s this -- you`ve heard that tape yourself?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Voices in the background. They say no, that`s George. No, that`s Trayvon.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Which side do you come under?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I find it hard to believe to tell which is which.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So, you think he`s yelling help?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. What is --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you remember there being -- do you remember what the take was on that in terms of other than determining whose voice it was?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The point that I remember it, they hadn`t determined who that was.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PINSKY: Back with our co-host, Samantha Schacher. Of curse, that was an edited version of the 911 call. So, who was screaming on the tape? George Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman claims self-defense. The prosecution claims it`s Martin yelling for help. The defense says it`s Zimmerman. Expert testimony will undoubtedly come in, I suspect.

The judge has yet to decide whether he or she will allow it. Joining us is Michael Skolnik, editor-in-chief of GlobalGrind.com. He`s on the board of the Trayvon Martin Foundation. Crystal Wright from ConservativeBlackChick.com, attorney, Darren Kavinoky, and Shahrazad Ali, author of "Are You Still A Slave?" Shahrazad Ali, how would you like me to address you?

SHAHRAZAD ALI, AUTHOR, "ARE YOU STILL A SLAVE?": Miss Ali is fine.

PINSKY: Miss Ali is great. OK. So, I`m going to start with Darren. The voice on the 911 call, who does it help?

DARREN KAVINOKY, ATTORNEY: Well, it depends who the jurors decide that voice is. Obviously, if it`s Trayvon Martin who`s calling for help, then that helps the prosecution, because that would show that George Zimmerman is the aggressor, that he`s hunting him down.

If, of course, it`s Zimmerman calming for help, then that helpsthe defense, right, because then it gets to his being in fear, he`s calling for help and that would tend to support the justifiable use of deadly force.

PINSKY: OK. Darren, I --

KAVINOKY: This is the $64,000 question.

PINSKY: Right. I think so, but Michael, I wonder if you agree with that? Does it really make any difference?

MICHAEL SKOLNIK, EDITOR, GLOBALGRIND.COM: It makes a big difference. But I think in this situation, the defense has not shown an expert on their side yet who`ve said it`s George Zimmerman. All they have shown is experts who refute the prosecutors` (ph) experts who say it`s Trayvon martin,

The defense has shown nothing. They can`t even pay somebody to go out there and say it`s George Zimmerman`s voice. They have nothing on their side that prove it`s George Zimmerman. Two experts have come forward already and say it`s Trayvon Martin`s voice.

PINSKY: Miss Ali, a lot of people are saying this has much to do with how Trayvon sort of presented himself. What he was wearing and that sort of thing. Do young people of any color need to be worried about that?

ALI: Well, we`re living in a country where men dress up like women, women dress up like men, and Black young people they want to dress just as silly as everyone else. And so, they want to wear their pants hanging down and the hat on backwards and the hoodies and so forth. And to them, it`s a fad. But these things pass and I think I have to take it back to the parents again.

We, as parents, we fail to do our job in a certain way in this country, because we haven`t told our children that they live in a hostile environment and that there are people out here waiting to kill them for any reason. And so, I think that, you know, that maybe if we did teach them more about how to dress and present yourself because you can`t dress in certain ways to go and apply for a job.

You can`t dress certain ways, you know, to get into college. And so, there are requirements on a dress standard.

PINSKY: Let me go to Crystal and say -- now, is that a parenting thing? Is that an issue of color? Where does that fall?

CRYSTAL WRIGHT, CONSERVATIVEBLACKCHICK.COM: Well, it`s a parenting thing how young men and women dress. And I agree with Miss Ali that, you know, parenting has gone by the wayside. And the fact is when young Black men have images from rappers in Hollywood with chains hanging around their neck, hoodies, calling women you know whats and hos, wearing pants where we can see their boxers.

That`s unacceptable if you`re Black, White, Chinese, purple, green. I don`t care if you`re a Martian. Dressing like that is not going to get you a job, which we know then enables you to participate in society. It`s not going to get you into college. It`s a lack of parenting, but I also think it`s because we now have left society without rules and anything goes.

PINSKY: OK. Now, you guys got to hold your thoughts. Hang on. I have to go to break. You must stop. Is it okay ever to be prejudicial? I`m going to put that question to the panel. I also let them respond in we`ve heard, so far.

And later, a superstar in the kitchen, and now, her husband`s in hot water. We got to go quick to break. Be right back with this panel.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: Gentlemen, I`m up against the clock. Darren, then MICHAEL, then Miss Ali responds. Keep it quick. Darren, go.

KAVINOKY: Yes. Look, we`re collapsing two different -- very different issues here. Of course, people should dress appropriately for job interviews and the like. And that`s just good parenting. But it`s irresponsible to suggest that somebody should be a crime victim or is more likely to be a crime victim because of the way they were dressed.

PINSKY: Got it. Got it.

KAVINOKY: People have freedom to express themselves.

PINSKY: Michael. Michael.

SKOLNIK: -- what he was wearing was menacing is absurd. George Zimmerman profiled him based on what he was wearing and the color of his skin. If Mark Zuckerberg was walking through Sanford with a hoodie on, George Zimmerman would drive and wave to him and said hello.

PINSKY: Miss Ali, spank these boys.

(LAUGHTER)

ALI: Well, we want Zimmerman --

KAVINOKY (ph): Please.

ALI: We want Zimmerman convicted for the crime that we think that he did, but it was a killing that didn`t nobody see. Black people killing each other all day long in every community in this country. And the whole neighborhood see it and don`t nobody tell. So, we`re using killing like the "N" word. It`s OK for us to do it to each other, but we don`t want anybody from outside our community to come in and do it, because then -- all no justice, no peace.

PINSKY: Crystal, finish this off.

(CROSSTALK)

WRIGHT: Here`s the thing. No, let me finish here. Nobody said anybody should die by the way they`re dressed or the color of their skin. And the last time I read about this case, it was dark at night. So, how did George Zimmerman know what color skin Trayvon was?

SKOLNIK: He said it in the 911 call.

(CROSSTALK)

ALI: This is why we can`t make any progress with this.

SCHACHER: Can I please say something really quick?

PINSKY: Samantha, go.

SCHACHER: A hoodie does not equate with us (ph). A guy with tattoos does not equate to somebody that`s a criminal or deviant.

PINSKY: Hold on.

SCHACHER: So, we`re supposed to govern people on what they wear?

PINSKY: Hold on. Miss Ali, finish it up.

WRIGHT: Can I say something?

ALI: This is why we can`t make any progress on this topic, because every time we discuss this issue about race in America, people don`t tell the truth. We have always been territorial about our communities.

(CROSSTALK)

ALI: We have been practicing stand your ground in the Black community way before it was made a law.

PINSKY: Guys, I want you all back tomorrow night. I`ve got to take a break. Crystal, I`m so sorry. I`m dying to hear what you all are saying, but it`ll be tomorrow. "Last Call" is next.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:13:48 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Seating and desks for attorneys on both sides have been changed so that both are facing the jury box for group questioning.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Court is in recess until potential jurors get here.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
That juror said: One man lost his life and another is fighting for his life. That's what I gather from sitting near the Zimmermans & Martins

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
A quote from a potential juror yesterday resonates in court as the families of #GeorgeZimmerman & #TrayvonMartin sit across from each other
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Lawyers are up at the bench discussing something with Judge Nelson.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Reminder: This is the second phase of jury selection. This round there will be questions about personal beliefs in a group setting.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Judge Nelson says a juror is running late so we have to wait for him or her.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
With Robert Zimmerman, Sr. in court is a woman who may be the mother of #GeorgeZimmerman This is the first time either have been here

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
The wife and father of #GeorgeZimmerman are in court. This is the first time I've seen Robert Zimmerman, Sr. in court.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:14:39 AM
grace-land is on top of the tweets this morning!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:17:40 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Screengrab: Where the potential #GeorgeZimmerman jurors will sit today. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/zOb0yPGeUz (http://pic.twitter.com/zOb0yPGeUz)
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman, with jury consultant, sits facing jury box today. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/MKkYm7p3fz (http://pic.twitter.com/MKkYm7p3fz)
 View photo

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 15m
Robert and Gladys Zimmerman are in court supporting their son.#FOX35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 17m
Follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS and join our chat/stream for #GeorgeZimmerman trial coverage http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ (http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ)  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Judge Nelson said a juror is running late, so we'll have a delay to start of today's jury selection. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Court is in session, Judge Debra Nelson on the bench. Courtroom reconfigured for group jury selection. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 20m
O'Mara, West, Hirschhorn in c-room for #Zimmerman, de la Rionda, Guy, Mantei, Corey for state. #Trayvon's parents here too.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 27m
Round 2 of jury selection for #GeorgeZimmerman trial today http://thesent.nl/12JNSXm  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
@AtlEsquire1973 Thanks!
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection continues soon | Stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  , Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW   #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 35m
Some of those prospective jurors in the #GeorgeZimmerman trial are entering the c-house lobby. Trial to resume at 9a. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Desiree Stennett ‏@Desi_Stennett 37m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Profiles of 40 prospective jurors - The final jury will come from this list  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-pool-20130618,0,6341800.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-pool-20130618,0,6341800.story) … TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 44m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection continues at 9 a.m. | Stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH , Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 54m
Prep for the #GeorgeZimmerman trial today by looking at the profiles of 40 prospective jurors http://thesent.nl/11JQK0s (http://thesent.nl/11JQK0s)  #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:20:34 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Screengrab: The reconfigured courtroom for #GeorgeZimmerman jury selection. Tables facing jury box. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/AXPI9G1isi (http://pic.twitter.com/AXPI9G1isi)
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 Ms Gertie ‏@GobbyGertie 9m
@JeffWeinerOS why have they done this?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
@GobbyGertie It's standard for group jury selection.
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6:12 AM - 19 Jun 13 · Details
 Ms Gertie ‏@GobbyGertie 7m
@JeffWeinerOS thx

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 10m
Prospective jurors tda will get a very good look at #GeorgeZimmerman. He'll be facing them, about 10 ft from the closest one. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Judge Nelson: Court in recess until all of today's potential jurors arrive. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Screengrab: The reconfigured courtroom for #GeorgeZimmerman jury selection. Tables facing jury box. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/AXPI9G1isi (http://pic.twitter.com/AXPI9G1isi)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:22:31 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/866LGjK.jpg)
JeffWeinerOS Jeff Weiner 12m
Screengrab: The reconfigured courtroom for #GeorgeZimmerman jury selection. Tables facing jury box. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/AXPI9G1isi


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:27:14 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
MT @sheafferlegal: Initial 6 potential #Zimmerman trial juror seats separated from rest of jurors for voir dire. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
Defense attorney Mark O'Mara just hugged and kissed #Zimmerman 's mother and wife and wife's grandmother and shook his father's hand.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
At least 2 potential jurors have not yet arrived. We are in recess until they get here. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  20m 
One if the 30 potential jurors called for today is late. The judge has lawyers up at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  21m 
Martin's mother and father are here again today with their lawyer Benjamin Crump. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  25m 
#Zimmerman 's mother and father in court today and his wife Shellie's grandmother is here again.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  29m 
MT @WFTV: WATCH LIVE: Day 8 of #Zimmerman trial begins at 9 a.m.: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:29:29 AM
grace-land is on top of the tweets this morning!   ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning!  This is much toooo early for me, but I'm here this morning!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:34:00 AM
grace-land is on top of the tweets this morning!   ::MonkeyCool::

Good morning!  This is much toooo early for me, but I'm here this morning!


Good morning!  Good to see you!  I wonder where alagary is?  Maybe he's out with his duck and chickens this morning.   :smt117  Living things take a lot of work sometimes....


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:36:27 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@GobbyGertie I'll tweet out screengrabs when I can, as I see people in the gallery.
 View conversation   Reply  Retweet  Favorite   More

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
All 40 prospective jurors at #Zimmerman trial now in c-room. Judge is warning not to talk, tweet, FBI about case. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Judge Nelson calls first 7 days of questioning "preselection." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Jurors entering courtroom, #GeorgeZimmerman standing at defense table. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Judge Nelson returns to court, all jurors have arrived. Frye hearing delayed to tomorrow at 2 p.m. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 11m
Omara says he can't comment on the civil rights complaint by the dismissed juror, kicked out due to Facebook post..#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24m
@GobbyGertie It's standard for group jury selection.
 View conversation

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 26m
Prospective jurors tda will get a very good look at #GeorgeZimmerman. He'll be facing them, about 10 ft from the closest one. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
Judge Nelson: Court in recess until all of today's potential jurors arrive. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 32s
Nelson: Anybody related to #GeorgeZimmerman or the attorneys? Nobody raises their hand. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson: We're looking for a jury "that will impartially try the issues in this case." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:40:32 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jurors given list of names, asked to let court know if they know anybody on it. Checking for conflicts. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Nelson: Anybody related to #GeorgeZimmerman or the attorneys? Nobody raises their hand. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:47:48 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
One of the jurors recognizes two names. We won't get to hear who they are. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:48:30 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Nelson said the list of potential witnesses is long and that not all will testify.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Potential jurors are also reviewing a list of potential witnesses. They've been asked to circle names of anyone they know.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Judge Nelson asked the group if anyone was related to Zimmerman. No one was.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Judge Nelson has just given potential jurors instructions not to discuss the case. She also just read the charges against Zimmerman.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
The group of 40 potential jurors have just entered the court.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  16m 
Frye hearing that was supposed to be today has been moved to Thursday at 2 p.m.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  30m 
The complete group of 40 potential jurors will now be questioned, a change from yesterday.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:49:38 AM
Good morning sunshine :sunny: and our six guests  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 09:50:52 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 44s
I-33 also recognizes a name of a potential witness. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
B-61 also recognizes names, as does G-63. G-63: "May I say the names?" Nelson: "No." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Several potential jurors recognize names from the potential witness list.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  10m 
Here from the family of #TrayvonMartin is his mother, father, Martin's grandmother, and @attorneycrump


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
B 6 says she might know 3 now. Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda just told potential jurors he's here to seek justice. #Zimemrmanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
I 33 now says he might know 4 witnesses. #Zimemrmanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
I 33 believes he recognizes three witnesses.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
B6 says she recognizes two people on the witness list. 

B 61 recognizes one witness.

G63 recognizes two witnesses.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  16m 
They are now looking at the list of potential witnesses to find out whether they know any witnesses. #Zimemrmanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:02:21 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 47s
B-12 moved from Michigan when she was 9. Is divorced. Was married a year. Former spouse died. 2 kids. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR starts with B-12. How long a Seminole County resident? "At least 40 years." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 6m
4 prospective jurors recognize one or more names on witness list. Bernie now nearly shouting his hello to all 40. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: Can you "give due consideration" to questions today? Jurors: Yes. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@GobbyGertie We don't know yet. They'll question the jurors about how they know the names.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11O394n  (http://bit.ly/11O394n) #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
BDLR to jurors: "We're here to seek justice," present evidence "as to the defendant's guilt." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:13:57 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
B-7: Lived "between Seminole and Orange" for 30 years. Is married. Wife just finished school to be teacher. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
B-76's husband used to work contruction. They manage rental properties. "I rescue a lot of pets." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Russell Lewis ‏@NPRrussell 4m
@JeffWeinerOS 26
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
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 Russell Lewis ‏@NPRrussell 4m
Attorneys in the George Zimmerman trial are questioning the 40 potential jurors as a group. Watch: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-live-video-chat-20130612,0,7210676.htmlpage …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
B-76 is married, "30 years." 2 kids. Son, 28, a local civil attorney. Daughter (didn't catch age), CNA. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
B-29: Also a nurse. No prior service (B-12, too). B-76: Seminole County resident "since 1975." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
B-12 on media presence & #GeorgeZimmerman's rights: "I feel that takes away his privileges." Also worried about her own privacy.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@aurabogado Thanks!
 View conversation

 Aura Bogado ‏@aurabogado 10m
Want the play-by-play on #Zimmerman's (pre)trial? Follow @JeffWeinerOS, who's tweeting live daily from the courtroom!
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
B-12 is a nurse. Longtime volunteer for moose lodge & church. Part of red hat society. Likes the beach. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
B-7: I liked prior jury service, but "it was one day" & we weren't sequestered. Laughter in court. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
B-7: Never in military, "I like to watch sports" & play videogames. Been a juror before, reached verdict. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:19:23 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Now B-37: Daughter of military man, moved "from one coast to the other." Husband a  lawyer. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
B-35 has served in USMC Reserve. Likes sports. Watches Netflix. Never a juror before. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
B-35: Manages vending machines. In a fraternity. Coaches pop warner & loves it. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:20:22 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
B-37: No military service. Never served on a jury, but called four times before. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
B-37 says she has two daughters: One a pet groomer, other goes to @UCF. Worked with pet rescue groups. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@bjbernstein Potentially, I suppose, but also potentially important to their role in jury. Balancing act for court & attorneys.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
B-51: Previously lived in Atlanta. No kids. Had several careers, "most recently real estate." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 10:36:29 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
M-75: Seminole resident since 2001. From NY. Single. No kids. In current job 2 months. Frmr travel agent. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
E-73: Prior jury service, 3x in Seminole, once federal, once in Ohio. Enjoyed? "Not always." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Here's our list of potential jurors, so far perfectly in order: http://bit.ly/11LAYC9 (http://bit.ly/11LAYC9)  Follow along! #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
E-73: From northeast, lived here 13 years. Married 33. Spouse retired, formerly in telecom. 2 kids. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11O394n (http://bit.ly/11O394n)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
E-54: No military service. Hobbies: "Reading, working on family tree, playing golf." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
E-54: Another former Orange resident, grew up in C. FL. Married to an engineering tech. 2 step kids. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 9m
Bernie is going juror by juror, asking basic  life questions: married? Kids? Social organizations? #Trayvon #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
E-40: Moves a lot. Safety officer for more than 25 years. Previously in Iowa. Married to chem engineer. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
E-6: Married to an engineer. Has two kids. Member of a church, not employed. Never military. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
B-86 says she used to work with children's youth group. Never military. Summoned before, never chosen. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
B-86: Seminole County since 1989, Orange before. Two kids. 1 a student, other hopefully getting back soon. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
K-95: Longtime Central Florida resident. Married 15 years to an electrician. 2 kids, 1 grandson. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 24m
K-80: Formerly from Virginia, married to maintenance tech. 2 daughters. Regular churchgoer. Soccer coach. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
E-28: Summoned for federal jury service, didn't serve. Served civil yrs ago. Volunteers for Relay for Life. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
E-13: Single no kids. Surgical assistant, church member. Not military. Passion for horses. No prior service. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 28m
E-22: From "up north," moved here early '90s. No military service. Likes gardening & "all things food." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 30m
B-72: Single, no kids. Phi Theta Kappa. Not military. Likes to arm wrestle, goes to gym. 1-armed pull-ups. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 32m
B-61: Married to full time engineering student. She's also an engineer. Church member. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
M-75: Animal lover & volunteer. Several in pool are, but say they don't know each other. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:10:37 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11LFkcu  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
G-66: "Chicago born & raised.' A widow. Husband was a truck mechanic. 2 daughters. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
G-63: Single, no kids. Former teaching assitant. No military service. Chess, weightlifting, piano. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
G-47: From Mass., likes "sports, friends, beer." Never served on a jury before. Single. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
G-29: Moved to Seminole from Orange recently, single, no kids. Summoned in Orange, but didn't serve. #TrayvonMartin #GEorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
P-67, who was excited for jury service, now isn't: "If it's going to affect my family, of course not." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
P-67 originally from Mexico, in the U.S. since late teens. Is married. Previously lived in Chicago. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
Judge Nelson to P-67:"I cannot and will not clear the courtroom." P-67 says OK. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22m
P-67 is the second potential juror to express privacy concerns, worried about media. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
P-67: "Can you tell me again" why we can't do this in private? BDLR: Media allowed to be present. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-35: Married, no kids. Unemployed. No prior jury service. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-29: Father of two, one handicapped. Served in military. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
H-18: Has a daughter, lived overseas. Served in U.S. Army. Likes tennis, swimming. No prior jury service. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
H-7 is a prior jury foreman in a criminal case, reached verdict. It was "ok," he said. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Sorry, that should've been H-7.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
H-6: Previously lived in Colorado. Prior jury service. H-27: Married, 2 kids. Lived in Texas. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
G-81: No military service. Interests: "golfing, travelling, sports." No prior jury service. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
G-66 likes motorcycles, fishing. Once an alternate juror in Chicago. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:13:09 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
H-86: Born & raised here. Belongs to church, volunteers. Never served on jury before. #TrayvonMArtin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-81 has prior jury service. H-69: Married to cable tech. Not military. No prior service. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-81: Married to hotel supervisor, has daughter & son in Navy. Likes "cool internet technologies." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:15:02 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-5 has been a jury foreman in a civil case. Enjoyed? "Looking back I did," but not during. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-5: Former military, worked in Alaska. Married to an auditor. Has kids. Watches sports. Prior jury service. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:18:22 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 50s
I-33: Married, no kids. Looking for new career. No military. Has "small farm," fishes competitively. #TrayvoNMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-24: No military service, "I love sports, I work in the yard." Likes beach. Hasn't served before. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
I-19: Single, no kids. Worked in retail. I-24: In Central Florida since '60s. Married. 2 daughters. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:24:57 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@Queen_LaQueefa I think it was more of a hobby, but sounds fun (and delicious) either way.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
To clarify: I-44 was an alternate in a prior jury he served on in Orange County.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
I-44 was an alternate. He's the last of the 40. Now a 15 minute recess. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
I-44: Married to RN, 3 kids. Formerly worked for theme parks. Competitive barbecuer (you read that right). #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
In recess!! #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
I-5 was a foreman in two juries 5 times reached a verdict. Enjoyed it looking back!! #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  19m 
The state is moving quickly through the panel, #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  22m 
H7 was jury foreman in Seminole County criminal case where they reached a verdict . He said the experience was "okay". #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  27m 
There seem to be some commonalities involving pets and engineering. #Zimmermanon9

Deneige Broom Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  38m 
Pot. juror doesn't want to be questioned in public. Judge says it has to be. "I will not clear the courtroom"
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  48m 
B 72 does one-arm pull-ups and likes to wrestle. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  54m 
B73 was called 5 times for jury duty never got to deliberations. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 11:35:50 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Several people are longtime Central Florida residents while others moved to the area recently.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
One potential juror said he was an NRA instructor and a longtime Boy Scout volunteer.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Several people also like to garden, go to the beach, and drink beer.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
However, I can report that among the potential jurors is are a competitive barbecued, a competitive arm wrestlers, and several pet lovers.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
I'll just admit that the prosecutor was going way too fast for me to take notes and tweet.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Court is in recess for 15 mins.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  40m 
P67 answered questions in public after judge said she would not clear the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  45m 
After several have answered questions, P67 is asking to be questioned privately.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
BDR is asking questions quickly about military service, passions, work, and family.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1h 
B12 is first potential juror questioned. She has two kids, used to be a home health nurse, and has lived Seminole County for 40 years.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:41:30 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Anyone else think the competitive barbecuer, I-44, should make lunch today? I bet it'd be awesome.

 Darryl E. Owens ‏@osDarrylEOwens 14m
Follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS and join our chat/stream for #GeorgeZimmerman trial coverage http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ   (http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ)#TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/102N1yp (http://bit.ly/102N1yp)  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:51:05 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: #GeorgeZimmerman is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Jurors again agree as a group. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR: "The state's burden in this case -- in any case -- is beyond a reasonable doubt." Jurors agree. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
BDLR: "It's the state's burden," not #GeorgeZimmerman. Jurors agree. Now explaining reasonable doubt. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Jurors agree to give #GeorgeZimmerman & state a fair trial. None articulate an issue with that. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Jurors re-entering courtroom, attorneys & #GeorgeZimmerman stand for their entrance. BDLR continues. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Court resumes. Attorneys to the bench. Jurors not back yet. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:52:03 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: "Sympathy plays no role at all" in verdict. Jurors agree. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR: Along with law & court's instruction, use "your God-given common sense." But no speculation. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
I'm looking at what all the jurors are agreeing to at this time.  It will be interesting in the future to see if the agreements turn out to be true.    And that's part of the reason I like to post tweets for the record.  JMHO


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda: "Sympathy plays no role at all in arriving at a verdict." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
De la Rionda on reaching a verdict: "You use your God-given common sense" to arrive at a verdict.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  8m 
Prosecutor is now explaining reasonable doubt to the group of potential jurors.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:54:50 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 52s
Jurors agree not to factor possible penalties into verdict. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
BDLR: Can you always tell when someone's biased? G-63: "I don't think you can always tell." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
BDLR asks K-80 if she agrees not to rely on sympathy. K-80: Yes, rely on "facts, not emotion." #trayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 11:58:49 AM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Jurors don't have issues with circumstantial evidence. I-44: I use it "all the time" with my kids. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: State can use circumstantial evidence, as well as direct. Uses analogy involving broken cookie jar. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:01:50 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Haven't watched CSI: B-7, B-29, B-35, B-86, B-61, B-72, E-28, K-95, P-67, H-69, I-5, H-86, H-29. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Prosecutor De La Rionda: "Circumstantial evidence is just as good as direct evidence." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
De la Rionda explaining the difference btwn direct & circumstantial evidence Lawyers I've talked to say state will rely on circumstantial

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
De la Rionda: Verdicts can't take into account bias or possible penalties someone might face.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:06:45 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
BDLR on CSI: "People want to believe that that's real." Jurors say they understand it's not. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:08:31 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-8-20130619,0,6367089.story?asdasd
George Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today
Jury selection continues in Trayvon Martin shooting case.

June 19, 2013

SANFORD - Round two of jury selection for the trial of George Zimmerman is underway this morning, with attorneys questioning a group of 40 potential jurors in the hope of finding a panel to try the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The trial reached a milestone Tuesday, when the state and defense got 40 potential jurors through the pretrial publicity phase of questioning, during which they were questioned about what they know, and how they feel, about the Miami Gardens teen's high-profile killing.

For the first time since the trial began, Zimmerman's parents are in court today.

This morning, the lawyers have transitioned to something much more like jury selection at an everyday trial: The 40 first-round survivors are together in the courtroom, answering questions on more general topics.

The trial resumed with Circuit Judge Debra Nelson asking the potential jurors if they are related to Zimmerman or the attorneys in the case. None said they were. The judge also read the charge against Zimmerman: second-degree murder.


Then, the jurors were given a list of potential witnesses and asked if they recognized any of the names. Several said they did.

After that, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda began questioning the jurors one by one about their lives: Where they work, what their spouses do, whether they have children and whether they've served before, to name a few common queries.

Some jurors quickly expressed concerns about the presence of the media in the courtroom. P-67, a man originally from Mexico who had said earlier he was eager to serve on a jury, today said he's worried this case will affect his family.

P-67 asked if the jurors could be questioned in private. Nelson replied: "I cannot and will not clear the courtroom."

The jury pool contains a diverse mix of experiences: People who've lived in Massachusetts, Texas and Illinois, former members of the military, some people who've never been a juror before and at least two who have served as a jury foreperson.

One potential juror described himself as a competitive barbecuer, another a competitive fisherman. One man has a farm. Many have ties to Central Florida's theme parks, through their employment or their family members'.

De la Rionda is now questioning the jurors as a group. He asked them if they understood reasonable doubt and the presumption of innocence. They said they did. They also said they understand that TV shows like CSI and Law & Order aren't realistic.

The potential jurors will be asked questions today on a variety of topics.
More...

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:13:15 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Prosecutor: "We're trying to ensure that both sides get a fair trial."

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
E73 and E54 agree that it's hard to guarantee that juror opinions won't factor into verdicts.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Prosecutor is explaining that CSI, Law & Order, and Perry Mason are not real world.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:14:01 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
BDLR: If anybody can't follow the law in this case, "this is the time to let us know, to be frank with us." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@bullsfan531 Don't know where he's getting that. I'm making no effort to photograph or  identify them.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/102SPbb  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:15:04 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
BDLR: Human nature to make assumptions? Jurors say yes. Shouldn't factor in verdict? They agree. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Do assumptions always pan out? G-14: No, sometimes think someone doesn't like me, "later find out that they were shy." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:16:13 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@bullsfan531 Happy to reply when I can. Thanks for following!
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
B-76's son's an attorney. Agrees he'll play no role in her decision. "He wouldn't respond anyway." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:17:02 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
B-51 has a neighbor who's an attorney. They don't talk about the law, "just share a fence." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 12:18:32 PM
I'll be away for a while, but will post tweets when I return. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:22:54 PM
I'll be away for a while, but will post tweets when I return. 

Have fun!...and enjoy your lunch!... 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:26:50 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
@NatJackEsq is walked into the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Several potential jurors know attorneys but all so far have said that wouldn't impact their ability to be fair in trial.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Prosecutor now asking each juror individually if they know attorneys. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:29:36 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Prosecutor now asking about whether anyone has been arrested. Several people have been arrested.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2013, 12:32:32 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Prosecutor now asking about whether anyone has been arrested. Several people have been arrested.
Not unusual for florida  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Potential jurors & court released for lunch. Jurors warned not to discuss case among themselves. Back at 1:45 p. #Zimmermanon9 via @WFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Lunch! #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
7 have been arrested. One said in Seminole County he was treated unfairly but it would not affect him. #Zimmermanon9



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Correction: @Yamiche: Court is in recess for lunch until 1:45 p.m. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Prosecutor now asking about whether anyone has been arrested. Several people have been arrested.
Not unusual for florida  ::MonkeyDevil::

I have gone to the Sentinal site and got lost reading all the What The Heck articles.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 01:35:47 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57589916-504083/trayvon-martins-family-has-every-confidence-george-zimmerman-will-be-convicted-family-attorney-says/

June 19, 2013 6:00 AM 
Trayvon Martin's family has "every confidence" George Zimmerman will be convicted, family attorney says

(CBS) SANFORD, Fla. --The family of slain Florida teen Trayvon Martin has "every confidence" that a jury will convict George Zimmerman, the former neighborhood watch captain accused in his shooting death, a family attorney said.

PICTURES: George Zimmerman in court
READ: Trayvon Martin Shooting: A timeline of events

Martin's family, including his mother Sybrina Fulton and father Tracy Martin, have attended jury selection proceedings in the Seminole County criminal courthouse since they launched more than a week ago. Attorneys in the case have been whittling down a pool of potential jurors, questioning them on their exposure to news reports in the high-profile case.

Tuesday, prosecutors and defense attorneys reached an important milestone -- identifying 40 potential jurors eligible to move on to a second round of questioning. The attorneys will be able to ask the candidates more in-depth questions when court resumes at 9 a.m. Wednesday.

The family has been "encouraged" by the jury selection process, said Daryl Parks, a Martin family attorney, adding that they feel the panel of six jurors and four alternates ultimately seated will be able to be impartial.

"I think the family feels very optimistic they can still get full justice for Trayvon," Parks said. "...Probably the most importantly, they've been able to hear there are a great number of people who can be impartial and fair and deliver justice."

The family believes the "full body of evidence in this case should lead to a conviction of George Zimmerman," Parks said.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
B-7: Victim of a break-in, Seminole SO "didn't investigate." Can set that aside. "Wasn't a big deal." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
E-73 says she was victim of a "very similar crime," can't set that aside. Says it's always on her mind. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Violent crime victims in pool: E-73, B-86, K-80, E-22. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Crime victims in pool: B-76, B-7, B-86, E-40, E-73, E-22, K-80, K-95, G-81, H-7, H-35, H-81, I-33, I-44. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
BDLR now asking if jurors have been victimized by crime. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
Jurors say they didn't break the judge's rules regarding talking/reading/hearing about case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  9m 
Jury entering. Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda (BDLR) will continue questioning for state. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:20:40 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR: Ok to take law into own hands? I-5: "There may be occasions, but basically I would say no." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
@porcelain10 No, tomorrow at 2 p.m.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
K-95 put up "no soliciting" sign in her neighborhood. There's a Neighborhood Watch, but she's not in it. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  6m 
14 of 40 possible jurors at #GeorgeZimmerman trial say they are victims of crime, 4 of them violent crime. #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
BDLR: Anyone live in a community with no crime? None of the jurors say they do. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
Does anyone else think this line of questions border on arguing the states case?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:24:08 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11ZZ9Ro  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Jurors say everyone should be treated the same under the law. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
BDLR: Crossed anyone's mind to "go out there and arrest people?" I-24: Would intervene to "protect family." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:25:22 PM
Does anyone else think this line of questions border on arguing the states case?

Yes!  I find this group questioning by the state very odd. imo


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:32:30 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  48s 
E-6 "was involved in a custody trial" involving domestic violence. Nothing to impact this case, she says. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
K-80 was a witness in a child support case. "There was no badgering... simple questions." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
G-63 was a witness in a criminal trial. Says he was treated well by both sides. Was "inconvenient." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
I-24 was a witness to a car accident. "We just had to verify who hit who." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Looks like our video feed is back up. Sorry for the glitch.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 02:33:59 PM
To any online watchers: I finally found a site with enough volume for older ears,
http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:35:52 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
E-6 on person she said she recognized: "I know the name," know it's a doctor, that's all. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
BDLR now getting details from jurors who said they knew witnesses in the case. E-6 is up first. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:38:06 PM
I'm on a site that has a live stream (the other one lost the feed)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-live-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-selection-8/


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 19, 2013, 02:38:46 PM
Does anyone else think this line of questions border on arguing the states case?

Yes!  I find this group questioning by the state very odd. imo

ditto  ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:42:31 PM
June 19, 2012 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
B-61 may know a witness "on a personal basis," friends several years ago. "I don't think it would impact" #GeorgeZimmerman case

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  54s 
G-63 thought one of the potential witnesses is "a celebrity," also recognized another name. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
I-33 says he may know someone on the list, it's a common name. Says it wouldn't affect him. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
E-6 "just recognized the name" of the people she identified on the witness list. On to I-33. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:45:40 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  33s 
BDLR: OK with expert opinions? E-28: Yes, "because they're supposed to be an expert in their field." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR now questioning jurors on expert witnesses. Says they can give opinion, unlike other witnesses. #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
E-6: "Sometimes experts don't always agree... how would that be treated?" BDLR: You evaluate, use "common sense." #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@TwinklesMom No, this is just for this phase of jury selection.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Several other jurors say they're OK with experts giving opinions & could rely on them. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 02:56:11 PM
To me only ; BDLR thinks he is coming across as friendly but seems more rude and condecending.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
H-69 has a cousin who works for Homeland Security. Sounds exciting, but "not for me." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
E-6 has a family friend who was SWAT, DEA. Now works in private sector. Says wouldn't impact case. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
#GeorgeZimmerman's brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., issues statement on his parents being in court today: "Our (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rktnci

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
Zimmerman trial: Round 2 of jury selection today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1204acO  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
Jurors have no personal law enforcement experience. H-86 has two uncles and an aunt in law enforcement. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 03:16:36 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR: Anyone live in a gated community? G-63: Used to, "had a security guard." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
BDLR is now questioning jurors about physical fitness, weightlifting, boxing/wresting experience. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
E-6 was involved in a domestic violence situation, B-7 got in a fight in middle school. Both say not a factor in this case. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
BDLR is now asking the jurors whether they've had disputes with anyone. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 03:23:49 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR questions the jurors on DNA, technology, medical knowledge. Results mixed. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Valerie Boey ‏@vboey  3m 
K80 has husband that's block captain, for neihgborhood watch..#fox35
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
One juror's husband is a "block captain," but she doesn't know what that means. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Several jurors live in communities with neighborhood watch, but aren't involved. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 03:41:04 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  44s 
BDLR is now defining second-degree murder for the jurors. They say they'll follow the law. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR: Responsibility comes with gun? H-7: "Absolutely." All agree. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
H-7 has guns, is an NRA member. H-6: Father owns "numerous guns." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
I-44: Handgun. I-33: rifles & shotguns. I-19: Father has guns. H-86: Brother in law. H-81: Has 2 handguns. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
   
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
K-80: "We own firearms." K-95: "I do, and my son does." P-67: No guns. G-66: "I have a .32." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
B-7: Father has a gun. E-22: Good friend has gun. E-13: Step-dad has "a few." Went to range once. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
E-40: Brother in law has hunting rifles. B-12 fired a gun once, fell down. Son has a gun. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
B-35 has an external holster,  concealed carry permit. B-76 says family members have guns. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
BDLR asks who has a firearm. B-35 has more than one. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  11m 
Attorneys to the bench. BDLR was about to ask something about #TrayvonMartin's age. #GeorgeZimmerman atty O'Mara asks to approach.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 03:48:04 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  27s 
Nelson elaborates that jurors will be in a hotel, will have family visits, "limited" phone & email. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Judge Nelson on jurors' contact with family: "You will be allowed to have contact but it will be limited." #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  56s 
B-61, B-7 say this is the first time they'd heard they might be sequestered. E-6 also didn't realize. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
BDLR: "Your contact with the outside world will be severely limited," once sequestered. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  5m 
More than a dozen of the 40 prospective jurors in the #Zimmerman case own guns. 1 has a concealed weapons permit. #Trayvon


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 03:54:05 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
BDLR says he's sitting down now, "Some of you may say, 'Hurrah!'" Defense next after 15 min recess. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@WTPatty Yes, but they'll have monitored visits from family, limited phone contact.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
BDLR says he's almost finished with questioning. Tells jurors verdict must be unanimous. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 04:01:41 PM
Does anyone else think this line of questions border on arguing the states case?

 :smt045 :smt045 :smt045 ::rhino:: ::rhino:: ::rhino::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 04:13:19 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12s 
@True_Thoughts I believe that question was about how much time they'd have to prepare for being sequestered.
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Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  1m 
O'Mara: it looks like we may start (evidence & testimony) Monday.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  44s 
O'Mara: "It looks like we may start Monday." Will last 2-4 weeks after that. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
P-67 says he prefers to be referred to as "citizen," "resident" or "Hispanic." Not "Mexican." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  2m 
P67: my little child is now sleeping with me, "I guess she's afraid someone is going to come get me." #Zimmerman, #Trayvon
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL      Reply 
   
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
P-67: "There are things in the media," wife & kids don't appreciate way he was described. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
P-67 says his worries would impact his jury service. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
P-67 says his wife is worried about the situation, they're both worried about finances. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
They're now questioning P-67 by himself. Had wife help write a letter. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@MissAmiaSays I'm not, I'm in the Sentinel's newsroom. My colleague @ReneStutzman is tweeting from court.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
@Ourtraceyboo I didn't make the comment. BDLR did. I was quoting him.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Judge Nelson releasing jurors early for the night, doesn't want O'Mara's questioning divided over two days. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 04:19:23 PM
June 19, 2012 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Court recesses for the night. Jurors to return for questioning by the defense 9 a.m. tomorrow. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
@MissAmiaSays Understood, whenever I am tweeting in court it's weird for me too. Always triple check that my ringer is off.

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
P-67 excused for the evening, told to come back tomorrow with the other jurors. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
O'Mara reassures the juror that he'll have contact w/family, anonymity throughout trial. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
Just curious, is there a way to poll scared monkey posters without them needing to use names? Who's packing? When do you wear it?

I have a twelve gauge 4 feet away and a .410/45 revolver that I wear during the day only on my property. I never take either passed the gate.
Mostly for varmits but it would take deputies 15-30 minutes to get here in the best.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 04:25:19 PM
I'm posting these tweets for clarification from the tweets of Jeff Weiner of Orlando Sentinel, posted above by grace-land.   When we're posting tweets, it can be hard to sit and open all conversations, and sometimes they aren't relevant.  In this case, I was intrigued, and I wanted to read the whole thing.  Notice Jeff put the sentence in quotes, which to me meant he was quoting BDLR, which it turns out he was. This has been part of the problem with this case.  Some are quick to jump on things that aren't really there. And there's more coming....  JMHO

June 19, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 33m
BDLR says he's sitting down now, "Some of you may say, 'Hurrah!'" Defense next after 15 min recess. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Tracey ‏@Ourtraceyboo 26m
@JeffWeinerOS Are you going to make that same comment when O'Mara is finally sitting down?

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
@Ourtraceyboo I didn't make the comment. BDLR did. I was quoting him.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 04:29:07 PM
BTW, because the tweets are linked back, if there are questions or someone wants to read further or read conversations, they can click on the link provided with the posts and read more detail.   :smt024


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 04:44:47 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/vinniepolitan

Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan 2h
Tonight on @HLNAfterDark, I sit down with #TrayvonMartin's father to talk about the unimaginable loss of a child. 2-nite special begins 10pm

 Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan 3h
What do #TrayvonMartin's parents think happened? I sit down w/ Tracy Martin to find out. 2-night @HLNAfterDark special begins tonight 10pm

 Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan 6h
WATCH: Re-enactment: A nighttime view of #Zimmerman's path http://on.hln.tv/4gccvK (http://on.hln.tv/4gccvK)  #trayvonmartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 04:45:17 PM
BTW, because the tweets are linked back, if there are questions or someone wants to read further or read conversations, they can click on the link provided with the posts and read more detail.   :smt024

Thanks, MuffyBee.  I'm planning to post Kathi's tweets that she made after the lunch break--to get an idea of what she was posting.





Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 19, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
Would it be possible to change the name of the sticky to something else?  The use of the word "slaying" implies guilt to me. GZ is having a trial b/c he is innocent until proven guilty, How about the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman trial?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
June 19, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  27m 
Court is done for the day. See you at 9 a.m. (or a bit before)! #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  36m 
P-67 has been sent from the courtroom til tomorrow morning. Attorneys are at the judge's bench. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  37m 
.@MarkOMaraLaw: "If we pick you as a juror, can you sit with us?" P-67: *silence* "If that's the only option... I guess." #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  43m 
O'Mara said it looks like the trial will start Monday and last two to four weeks. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  43m 
P-67 is also worried that after 30 days his employer will no longer pay him. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  44m 
P-67 is concerned with how media described him as Mexican rather than as a citizen or Hispanic. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  47m 
P67 wanted to talk about his hardships if picked to serve on the jury. #zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  52m 
All potential jurors have left the court, but P67 remained for privacy. "Is the media on still?" he asks. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  55m 
Judge is releasing potential jurors for the day. They'll be back in the morn at 9. They're now being admonished. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Prosecution is explaining exactly what sequestration will entail. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
More than a dozen of 40 potential jurors own guns. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Prosecution is asking about who owns guns; one woman has a concealed weapons permit. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Attorneys are at the bench at O'Mara's request. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
#BDLR: "Does anyone assume certain things because of the attire someone is wearing?" #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
One woman said her husband is block captain, but has no idea what that means. #NeitherDoI #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
#BDLR wants to know if anyone lives in a gated community or one w/neighborhood watch; some do. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Two female jurors said they've been in situations of domestic violence. :( #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
#BDLR asking jurors if they've had disputes, resolved and unresolved, with anyone. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
From #Zimmerman family statement: "George acted in self-defense... we stand by George because he told the truth." #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Female juror who worked in loss prevention said she's busted her sister's friends for shoplifting. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
Jury candidates asked about experts and what if they disagree, what if you don't think they're real experts etc. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1h 
When asked by #BDLR, no potential jurors said they have first-hand law enforcement experience. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2h 
One witness talked about citizens' arrest and the state told the witness he knows the witness is an NRA member. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2h 
State is now asking about neighborhood watch, taking the law into your own hands and race. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2h 
Potential jurors being asked about crime in their neighborhoods and if they're in a neighborhood watch. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2h 
E73 says she was the victim of a violent crime and she said "It's always in my mind". #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3h 
WATCH LIVE/CHAT: Back in session at #Zimmermanon9 juror selection: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  pic.twitter.com/VQHud7x9K7
View photo     

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4h 
Potential jurors & court released for lunch. Jurors warned not to discuss case among themselves. Back at 1:45 p. #Zimmermanon9 via @WFTV


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: seahorse on June 19, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
Just curious, is there a way to poll scared monkey posters without them needing to use names? Who's packing? When do you wear it?

I have a twelve gauge 4 feet away and a .410/45 revolver that I wear during the day only on my property. I never take either passed the gate.
Mostly for varmits but it would take deputies 15-30 minutes to get here in the best.

Hi alagary,


Have you thought about Bear Spray?  It reaches up to thirty-five feet away, so I am told.

I wouldn't mind having a rifle, but I would need to practice a daily routine.
 
My neighbor's would not tolerate hearing boom, boom, boom.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 05:24:53 PM
Would it be possible to change the name of the sticky to something else?  The use of the word "slaying" implies guilt to me. GZ is having a trial b/c he is innocent until proven guilty, How about the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman trial?

I've forwarded your post to Klaasend.  MuffyBee


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 05:28:03 PM
Would it be possible to change the name of the sticky to something else?  The use of the word "slaying" implies guilt to me. GZ is having a trial b/c he is innocent until proven guilty, How about the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman trial?
Been wondering that myself. Would not want to prejudice the jury.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
Just curious, is there a way to poll scared monkey posters without them needing to use names? Who's packing? When do you wear it?

I have a twelve gauge 4 feet away and a .410/45 revolver that I wear during the day only on my property. I never take either passed the gate.
Mostly for varmits but it would take deputies 15-30 minutes to get here in the best.

Hi alagary,


Have you thought about Bear Spray?  It reaches up to thirty-five feet away, so I am told.

I wouldn't mind having a rifle, but I would need to practice a daily routine.
 
My neighbor's would not tolerate hearing boom, boom, boom.


The next time I get 35 feet from a hawk or coyote I'll tell them you said hi.
My neighbor lives ways down the road and both of us have each other on  special speed dial. Hillbilly 911.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 05:45:10 PM
Just curious, is there a way to poll scared monkey posters without them needing to use names? Who's packing? When do you wear it?

I have a twelve gauge 4 feet away and a .410/45 revolver that I wear during the day only on my property. I never take either passed the gate.
Mostly for varmits but it would take deputies 15-30 minutes to get here in the best.

Hi alagary,


Have you thought about Bear Spray?  It reaches up to thirty-five feet away, so I am told.




I wouldn't mind having a rifle, but I would need to practice a daily routine.
 
My neighbor's would not tolerate hearing boom, boom, boom.



You don't need a "daily routine" to have a rifle. BTW, there's a difference between a rifle and a shotgun. Anyone using or having a firearm should be trained on safety and it's use.  But shooting daily?  Maybe not so much...
 ::snipping3::
These differences determine the specific uses of each of these firearms. Rifles are designed for accuracy to hit a precise point. Shotguns are designed to shoot a spread of shot at moving targets. (It's a lot harder to miss with a shotgun.  And they are safer to have in the home than a rifle and especially safer than a handgun)
 ::snipping3::
http://homestudy.ihea.com/aboutfirearms/10diffrifleshotg.htm

I have a can of "bear spray" that I use when I walk my dogs on leash, because of the inconsiderate folks that let their dogs run loose and have come after my dogs.  You must be very, very careful with that stuff.  Keep in mind the wind for one thing. For dogs, you would aim for their nostrils, not their eyes.  It might give you a minute or two to try to get away.  Spraying someone on drugs may not have the affect you want.  I've heard stories of LE using MACE (stronger than pepper sprays) and they have little effect. 

The State of Florida has laws regarding pepper spray:
http://www.misdefenseproducts.com/Pepper-Spray-Laws-Restrictions-sp-6.html
 ::snipping3::
FLORIDA: Legal.

"Self-defense chemical sprays" are legal. They are defined as "a device carried solely for purposes of lawful self-defense that is compact in size, designed to be carried on or about the person, and contains not more than two ounces of chemical". Section 790.001. Although it may seem redundant, there is an express prohibition against using chemical sprays against a law enforcement officer. Section 790.054.
 ::snipping3::

And last but not least.  If there is a person coming onto my property intending to do harm to me or my family and I fear for my or their life, pepper sprays aren't the answer.  We have so few LE officer for such a large area, the wait time could be fatal.  JMHO


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 05:47:02 PM
Just curious, is there a way to poll scared monkey posters without them needing to use names? Who's packing? When do you wear it?

I have a twelve gauge 4 feet away and a .410/45 revolver that I wear during the day only on my property. I never take either passed the gate.
Mostly for varmits but it would take deputies 15-30 minutes to get here in the best.

Hi alagary,


Have you thought about Bear Spray?  It reaches up to thirty-five feet away, so I am told.

I wouldn't mind having a rifle, but I would need to practice a daily routine.
 
My neighbor's would not tolerate hearing boom, boom, boom.


The next time I get 35 feet from a hawk or coyote I'll tell them you said hi.
My neighbor lives ways down the road and both of us have each other on  special speed dial. Hillbilly 911.


 Coyotes killed my neighbors 10 yo dauchsund that got out of the yard two weeks ago.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 05:57:56 PM
Right Muffy  that's why I like my .410/45,it will do no harm except what I am shooting at. Mostly I fire in the ground for the bang. I wonder if that would have helped Z?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Blonde on June 19, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
I pack ::MonkeyCool::
 I got one 12 gage shotgun  and two 38 Special Revolvers one is a Smith & Wesson® 637 Airweight® .38 Special Revolver  I can carry with me when riding my Harley.
 The other is a colt 38 special revolver diamondback
I don't like automatics they scare me
I have a pistol permit in three states


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 19, 2013, 05:59:37 PM
Would it be possible to change the name of the sticky to something else?  The use of the word "slaying" implies guilt to me. GZ is having a trial b/c he is innocent until proven guilty, How about the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman trial?

I've forwarded your post to Klaasend.  MuffyBee

Thanks,


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: klaasend on June 19, 2013, 06:38:16 PM
Would it be possible to change the name of the sticky to something else?  The use of the word "slaying" implies guilt to me. GZ is having a trial b/c he is innocent until proven guilty, How about the Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman trial?

There is no question that Trayvon Martin was killed by George Zimmerman's gun.  So there was no question that Trevon Marton was Slain.  The question and the trial is of course weather or not Zimmerman killed Trayvon in self defense or not and in THAT LIGHT, Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty.

I see no reason to change the title of the sticky  What I will do is change the title of the NEXT thread.  


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 19, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
Right Muffy  that's why I like my .410/45,it will do no harm except what I am shooting at. Mostly I fire in the ground for the bang. I wonder if that would have helped Z?

Texas is the opposite of FL in regard to concealing a long gun.  Go figure...

I don't think a warning shot would have helped nor would have been feasible if that's what you mean.  CHL classes don't teach warning shots.  (I think there's too much of that on TV.  JMHO) A bullet has to go somewhere, after all.  Plus, if GZ and TM were on the ground struggling a warning shot could be deadly.
 

http://flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/790.06
2012 Florida Statutes
CHAPTER 790
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS


(Concealed Carry)
 ::snipping3::
Allows concealed possession of handguns, electronic weapons or devices, tear gas guns, knives, or billies, but not long guns or machine guns per Chapter 790.06(1). Concealed carry only; no open carry of firearms allowed, even with license, except when hunting, fishing, camping, or while practice shooting and while traveling to and from those activities.
 ::snipping3::

(Open Carry)

http://flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/790.053
790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
(2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:
(a) A self-defense chemical spray.
(b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.
(3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 19, 2013, 06:52:53 PM
Luckily I have never had to fire at a human and even most of the animals I am only trying to scare off.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 19, 2013, 07:02:50 PM



I see no reason to change the title of the sticky  What I will do is change the title of the NEXT thread.  


Thank you!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:18:31 PM
http://www.startribune.com/nation/212103841.html

Jurors in Zimmerman case asked about neighborhood watch involvement, other personal info
Article by: KYLE HIGHTOWER , Associated Press
Updated: June 19, 2013 - 6:05 PM

 ::snipping3::
After the judge read the charge, prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda began a second round of more intensive, personal questioning with the 40 potential jurors, whose names are kept confidential. The final jury will be sequestered throughout the trial to protect jurors from outside influence.

De la Rionda also warned jurors that they would have to forget anything they knew about the case previously and base their information only on what they heard in the courtroom. He reminded them the judicial system is different than what they see on television shows like the "CSI" and "Law & Order" franchises.

"What you saw on TV or on the Internet or read or what the media said is completely irrelevant," he said.

Several candidates were involved with rescuing animals, and the pool included a competitive arm-wrestler, a competitive fisherman and a man who enters barbecue competitions. Seven potential jurors said they had previously been arrested. But they said that their cases had been dropped and that they thought they were treated fairly.

Fourteen candidates said they had been victims of crimes, including four involving violent crimes. A white woman in her 50s said it would be difficult for her to keep her experience with a violent crime out of the courtroom.

"It's always in my mind," she said.

Twenty-seven of the 40 potential jurors are white, seven are black, three are mixed race and three are Hispanic. Twenty-four are women and 16 are men.

The racial and ethnic makeup of potential jurors is relevant since prosecutors have argued that Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer for his gated community in Sanford, Fla., profiled Trayvon Martin when he followed the teen last year as Martin was walking back from a convenience store to the house of his father's fiancee.

Zimmerman fatally shot Martin a short time later following a confrontation that was partially captured on a 911 call.

De la Rionda also asked if the potential jurors had been members of a neighborhood watch group and if it was acceptable for individuals to take the law into their own hands. None of the jurors had much experience with neighborhood watch groups and for the most part didn't believe it was OK for individuals to act as law enforcement officers.

"There may be occasions, but I would generally say no," said a middle-aged black man.

The prosecutor also asked if potential jurors either owned or had fired guns and if the race or age of Martin was important to any decision they would make. Around two dozen jury candidates either owned or had fired guns, and no one said age and race mattered.

When asking potential jurors about whether clothing mattered, a reference to Martin's hoodie, a white woman in her 30s said, "I try not to make judgments, but I know we make assumptions."

 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/19/19042494-george-zimmermans-parents-attend-jury-selection?lite

George Zimmerman's parents attend jury selection
4 hours ago

George Zimmerman's parents were in a Florida courtroom Wednesday to "visibly advocate" for the former neighborhood watch volunteer charged with second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin.

Robert and Gladys Zimmerman have not previously attend jury selection, which began June 10, because they have received death threats and have been taking care of an elderly relative with Alzheimer's, their older son, Robert Zimmerman Jr., said in a statement emailed to NBC News.

“Despite safety considerations, the time was right to do what they could to visibly advocate for George's innocence,” the statement said.

"Going forward, security and other concerns are paramount and our periodic absence from court should not be misinterpreted as a withdrawal of support.”

The parents were joined by their daughter, Gracie, as prosecutors and defense lawyers began trying to winnow down a pool of 40 potential jurors to a panel of six.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 19, 2013, 09:27:53 PM
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/19/george-zimmerman-parents-court-trayvon-martin

Zimmerman's parents make first court appearance
updated 6:03 PM EDT, Wed June 19, 2013

 ::snipping3::
The following statement was sent to HLN on behalf of Zimmerman's brother, Robert, who wasn't in court Wednesday:

"Our parents: Mr. & Mrs. Zimmerman along with our sister are in court today supporting George. Despite safety considerations, the time was right to do what they could to visibly advocate for George's innocence. Our parents have avoided showing their face on-camera because of numerous death threats directed at our entire family. Our parents have served as primary caretakers for our grandmother Cristina for years. Alzheimer's disease has left her requiring round-the-clock care & supervision. I am happy to care for our grandmother, as George, our sister & I were raised largely with her help and consider her a parent."

Robert Zimmerman says the family may not be visible in court for the duration of the trial -- for a good reason.

"Going forward, security and other concerns are paramount and our periodic absence from court should not be misinterpreted as a withdrawal of support. Our position as a family has been clear & consistent since the night George was attacked: We are all sympathetic to the tragic reality of outliving a son or daughter, however... George acted in self-defense, self-defense should not be criminalized & we stand by George because he told the truth."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Amys Sister on June 19, 2013, 09:40:53 PM
Luckily I have never had to fire at a human and even most of the animals I am only trying to scare off.

 ::MonkeyAngel::

I have a pomeranian and two cats who come and go as they please out our dog door.  Our acreage is heavily treed and we enjoy lots of coyotes and hawks, eagles, deer, nasty coons (beady eyed little buggers)... I love it.  One cat is 17 and I swear he's killed a coyote.  No proof but I bet he did.

Anyway, glad you're not shooting to kill most times, Alagary.

We're amply armed but I don't carry.  I do have a plan I've mentally rehearsed many times in the event of an intruder.  I don't choose to kill, animal or human, but if my own or anyone else's life is in danger (really in danger of actually dying by someone intending to kill us or illegally intrude on our private property) I would not hesitate.  And I'm a very good shot.  My daddy taught me when I was a wee little one. 



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 01:50:58 AM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/6/19/analyst_defense_shou.html

Analyst: Defense should be faster in George Zimmerman 'traditional voir dire'
Last Updated: Wednesday, June 19, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Legal analyst Jaya Balani offered some insight into how long we can expect the defense to take.

“Regarding the prosecution's side, usually they take a little bit longer than the defense usually takes because they start out with all the questioning, and it's usually the same questions the defense wants to know the answers to,’ Balani said.

Once the questioning is done, attorneys will try to narrow down the pool to the final six jurors and four alternates for trial.

Balani explained what will happen after the questioning is finished.

"They'll [the defense] sit down with the client, the state will sit down with his other attorney and decide who they want on the jury and who they don't want on the jury. Then, what the judge will do is, they'll go back and forth, the state versus the defense and they'll choose  if they want to use their strike or not.'

Each side gets 10 peremptory strikes that can be used to get rid of a potential juror for almost any reason.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 09:08:41 AM
 ::CowWave::  Good Morning everyone! 

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Back in court this morning are the mother & father of both #TrayvonMartin  and #GeorgeZimmerman They sit on opposite sides of the courtroom

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
The judge has said the court is waiting for the potential jurors to arrive.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  9m 
Court is back in session. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 09:19:16 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Potential jurors are now walking into the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Reminder: Defense attorneys will be questioning the potential jurors today about personal beliefs Yesterday the prosecution got their chance


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 09:20:06 AM
Good morning grace-land and our 1 guest  ::HelloKitty::   ::bee::


June 20, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara says we're at the "end of voir dire." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
None of the jurors say they've broken the court's rules. O'Mara now to start questioning. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Potential jurors are now entering court. Still working on our video stream. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 10m
#GeorgeZimmerman and #trayvonmartin parents are in courtroom wating for potential jurors to arrive.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jerriann Sullivan ‏@JerriannOS 8m
From @BethKassab #GeorgeZimmerman, #CaseyAnthony trials have little in common so far http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-beth-kassab-20130619,0,7611034.column … #TrayvonMartin #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 16m
Judge, #GeorgeZimmerman & attys-await arrival of 40 prospective jurors. C-room is very quiet. #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 20m
#GeorgeZimmerman's parents and sister return to c-room. Judge gavel's session to order. #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
We're having problems with our video stream again folks. Working to fix.

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 30m
Sybrina Fulton & Tracy Martin walk toward c-room on Day 9 of #GeorgeZimmerman's murder trial. #TrayvonMartin. Day's proceedings @ 9a.
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 from Sanford, FL

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 25m
Watch the #GeorgeZimmerman trial, join our chat and follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ  #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection stream links | Stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  Stream & chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 51m
@TrayTillEmMar Good morning, and thanks for following! Court starts 9 a.m. EST, so I guess 3 a.m. for you.
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 tvguyhal ‏@tvguyhal 53m
George Zimmerman: How did the prosecutor do? http://goo.gl/fb/LaH6h
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 54m
My #GeorgeZimmerman TweetDeck column is full of tweets about the fired Men's Wearhouse guy. That's George ZIMMER guys, not Zimmerman.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Yesterday in the #GeorgeZimmerman trial | Jurors questioned about law: http://bit.ly/16J8w9r  Photos: http://bit.ly/11PInBh  #TrayvonMartin
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 Gary W. Green ‏@garywgreen 1h
Waiting outside courtroom 5D for George Zimmerman trial. #georgezimmerman #trayvonmartin #osphoto… http://instagram.com/p/ax8HQnyBhe/
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1h
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues at 9 a.m. | Story we'll update today: http://bit.ly/11PHPLM  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 09:27:35 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
#Zimmerman is presumed innocent until proven guilty and the judge overruled the state's objection saying you are presumed innocent.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
The state has already objected twice once for defense calling #Zimmerman George for which he apologized and again for saying 1/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The defense says he too represents people of Florida just individually. He takes issue with labels of defendant and victim. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Defense has started by talking about how this process is almost more critical than the evidence. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  23m 
Court is back in session. Both families are here again today as the defense begins questioning the potential jurors. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 09:31:05 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
B-35: "I believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty," state must prove case. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
5 jurors said they have lived places without American system's presumption of innocence. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-69: Lived in South America. Where she was, if accused "it's very difficult for you to prove otherwise." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11POk1c  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
@ahrcanum 6 jurors, 4 alternates.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
O'Mara: #GeorgeZimmerman presumed innocent. What would be verdict today? K-95: "It would be not guilty." #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
O'Mara: Feelings on the word defendant? B-51: Implies someone is "already in the wrong." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
O'Mara: Like the prosecution, I represent the people of the state of FL, "I just do it individually." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 09:41:13 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara demonstrates direct evidence: Jurors can see him holding iPad. Eyewitnesses. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
@mushroomfeet I'm sorry, it's not working this morning. We're trying to fix it ASAP.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
O'Mara: What's an imaginary doubt? Juror: A doubt "that I just made up in my mind... not based in fact." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
O'Mara: What does speculate mean to you? E-54: "Speculate means I don't know all the facts." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Ok with deciding if state has met burden? B-72: "That's the way the system works, I've never questioned it." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 09:46:17 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Potential jurors are discussing direct versus circumstantial evidence. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
Defense says he disagrees with the state that circumstantial evidence is as good as direct evidence. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 09:49:12 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Christina Vazquez Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports  18m 
6 jurors - 4 alternates “@ahrcanum: @VazquezReports @Yamiche @JeffWeinerOS How many jurors will be seated, how many alternatives? Tyia.”
 Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 09:53:19 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  50s 
The defense asks what they would do if they have an abiding conviction of guilt but it's wavering. The state objected. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The defense used the state's example of circumstantial evidence and said if he prosecuted that case he could have been wrong. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:02:12 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38s
Our video feed is back up! Watch live: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  Chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@DatDudeEasy Thanks!
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 We want Easy ‏@DatDudeEasy 2m
Y'all need to follow @JeffWeinerOS for all the details on the Zimmerman case. Dude is solid!
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara now discussing difference between civil, criminal burden of proof. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
#GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin: Here's the jury instruction on reasonable doubt, much discussed this (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rku5be

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
G-63: Can't have "abiding" belief in guilt if it's also "wavering." Doesn't like that aspect of instruction. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
@mushroomfeet The court isn't doing it, the issue's on our end.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Judge Nelson reads the jury instruction for reasonable doubt, after state objection on O'Mara's questioning. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/104Sogw  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
B-29: Can't make a decision "on anything until you hear everything." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
@Mikkatiger Yes, we're having problems with the stream today. We're working on fixing it.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
O'Mara: What if case is entirely circumstantial: Juror: "Innocent if it's just based on circumstantial." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/104RLnk  #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
O'Mara: Circumstantial evidence doesn't necessarily rule out "a reasonable hypothesis... of innocence." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
E-40 on circumstantial, direct evidence: "Both types of evidence are important." Others favor direct. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:04:05 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
Big laugh: juror I-5, military vet formerly in Alaska, gets confused and gives wrong juror number. (At this point, we'll laugh at anything.)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL 

 Valerie Boey ‏@vboey 1m
B7 says there's a higher standard in criminal case because there's more on the line.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Juror: Higher standard in criminal case, there's "more on the line." He's not comfortable with that. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 10:07:42 AM
June 29, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Some of the jurors have served on juries in civil cases where the standard of proof is lower. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense is asking people about the lower standard of proof in civil cases (51/49) versus beyond reasonable doubt.  #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
A big laugh when I-5 forgot his number and called himself I-29 and defense joked about whether he was a stealth juror. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
To come up with their own definition of abiding. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  10m 
CHAT: Join 800+ people logged on and chatting w/us now during #Zimmermanon9: http://at.wftv.com/14ORrY3  @coveritlive
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Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  9m 
One juror is pointing out the possible contradiction of a wavering but abiding conviction and the defense says they have 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
The judge is reading to jurors the law.. About reasonable doubt and said what the defense said about it. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 10:10:32 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Judge Nelson just read the instructions jurors will hear at the end of the trial which is that there must be an abiding conviction of guilt

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
O'Mara has for several minutes been talking about reasonable doubt and circumstantial evidence versus direct evidence.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-81 agrees with other jurors, burden is higher in criminal cases "because there's much more at stake." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
E-28 also agrees "taking someone's liberty away" is more severe than a civil suit, likes higher standard. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Agree with higher criminal standard? E-13: "I agree." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:13:37 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31s
O'Mara: What if evidence conflicts? H-7: "That's when you use your good common sense." Reference to BDLR. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Juror says O'Mara's civil-vs-criminal discussion is comparing apples to oranges. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@LiseLasalle Yes, in a civil case a defendant can be forced to testify. Not in a criminal case.
 View conversation


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:18:00 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Concerns about 2nd Amendment? B-37 has concerns with types of weapons some people own. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 3m
Huh? O'Mara just compared U.S Constitution to Windows 8.
#GeorgeZimmerman, #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: Lack of evidence can also lead to reasonable doubt. Problems with that? K-95: "No sir." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:24:06 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
B-37 says when making verdict she'll ignore her feelings about ease of access to concealed weapons permit. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
B-37: Currently, concealed weapon training is "not adequate... It's like, that's it?" #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 10:25:32 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
The panel agrees that criminal convictions can take away liberty so standard of proof should be higher. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  17m 
The state objected for the fifth time about using #Zimmerman case as example to explore the difference so he went with John Doe


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 10:32:22 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Court taking 15 minute recess. 

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Screengrab: Close-up view of #GeorgeZimmerman at defense table today. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/rUvCKfqYGj
Retweeted by Yamiche Alcindor 
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara just asked H69 if she was certain beyond a reasonable doubt about marrying her husband. She said yes.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
O'Mara is now talking about how potential jurors make decisions. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  12m 
Juror B40 says she understands second amendment but people must be responsible with firearms.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
O'Mara has moved on to a discussion about the second amendment. "You have a right to bear arms."


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)


Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@LyleMazin I will tolerate any anti-beard sentiment! Nice new avatar, BTW.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Court is in recess for a 15 minute break. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-29: "I've had to make some decisions" at work. Used research, weighed options. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@SMoKeeGyRL You sure? You're missing out on good tweets...
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Screengrab: Close-up view of #GeorgeZimmerman at defense table today. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/rUvCKfqYGj (http://pic.twitter.com/rUvCKfqYGj)
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara's not questioning jurors on recent decisions they've made in their lives, what standards they used. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Darryl E. Owens ‏@osDarrylEOwens 7m
Follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS and join our chat/stream for #GeorgeZimmerman trial coverage http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ   #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/104Sogw  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 10:37:08 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Five objections so far. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says the state's demeanor has changed from jovial yesterday to defensive today with 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
Recess!

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
Defense is asking jurors to compare their decisions to civil and criminal standards. Defense is making them really think. #Zimmermanon9

Deneige Broom Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  11m 
O'Mara asking them to compare standards of evidence, w/ how they chose breakfast this a.m.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 10:52:52 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: We manke assumptions every day? Juror: "Everyday." Like today, "I thought it was gonna be a short day." Laughter. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@artistofideas Oh no!
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 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
Just realized that potential jurors have to line up in their order. Must be like knowing your spot in line in elementary school.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Screengrab: Lawyers, #GeorgeZimmerman stand as potential jurors enter. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/i4WRNvQcP6
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection resumes now | Stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  Stream with chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara back to talking about decision making and making sure people pay attention to details of the case.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Just realized that potential jurors have to line up in their order. Must be like knowing your spot in line in elementary school.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Jurors are walking back into the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Court is back in session. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 11:06:43 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
E-22: "It's difficult to stand outside yourself," ignore prior experiences. But group can help. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
B-76 on jury selection: If a family member was on either side, "I would want this process to happen" #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
B-61: "I think it's helpful for the jury to understand what the rules are" and the expectations. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
H-81: "No matter what we've gone through" jury must "base their verdict on the evidence that's presented." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
O'Mara: When we say to use common sense, "we really mean that. We don't expect you to become robots in this courtroom." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 11:07:46 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Said others in the group that would help prevent someone from doing that. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The defense says he's concerned that people will default to the way they usually make decisions  and one juror 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
The defense is asking jurors to be cautious and not carry life experiences into decision but use common sense. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  15m 
Back in session. One juror talked about making the very tough decision to leave Chicago and come here for young children. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11PXBGF  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
M-75: In past, I've "had to hold people accountable for what they do." Common sense based on "experiences." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
B-61: My work involves safety, "I have to hold myself accountable." Also important as a juror. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 11:34:21 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
From self defense. One said there are times when a split second is all you have to act to protect yourself or others . 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
The defense points out the Good Sumaritan law which involves taking the law into your own hands and distinguishing it 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 11:40:33 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
State again objects to O'Mara reading parts of a jury instruction.Judge Nelson to read the whole thing. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
E-6: "Does the law provide any clarification on what is reasonable?" O'Mara: Some. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara reads self-defense jury instruction to jurors. Now questioning on that. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
H-86: Taking law into own hands not same as "following the law" already in place, "such as self-defense." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
G-29: "I think that when you feel that your life... is in danger... You kind of just react to it... entitled to do that." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Several jurors say taking the law into your own hands is OK in certain circumstances, like defending others. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
B-76: If I saw a child being abused, "I would definitely get involved" = taking law into own hands, but ok. Others agree. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Potential juror: I would hope jury would realize "this is something bigger than all of us." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Lyle Mazin ‏@LyleMazin 20m
O'Mara is reading Florida Standard Jury Instruction 2.04; rules for weighing the evidence @JeffWeinerOS #zimmerman pic.twitter.com/r8XX5JMwFM
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
  View photo

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
B-76: "I think it's a natural instinct to have sympathy but sometimes" have to make "analytical decision." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
B-72 agrees not to rely on sympathy in deciding case: "I've always taken a stoic approach." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
H-7 compares witness bias to car salesmen: "If I go to the Ford dealer... I'm gonna have to weigh their biases..." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
B-51" "It's good to know that" we can consider witness bias, "because I didn't know that." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
O'Mara: Problem evaluating witness bias? G-66: No. B-51: "I wasn't aware... that those are considerations for us." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
O'Mara's now talking about witness bias, straightforwardness. Factors jury can consider at trial. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 11:42:47 AM
Reposted this tweet to include url tags on the photo link to make it clickable.  Missed it when I posted it above.  MB  ::bee::

June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Lyle Mazin ‏@LyleMazin 22m
O'Mara is reading Florida Standard Jury Instruction 2.04; rules for weighing the evidence @JeffWeinerOS #zimmerman pic.twitter.com/r8XX5JMwFM (http://pic.twitter.com/r8XX5JMwFM)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 11:46:40 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson tells jurors they have to decide together what's reasonable. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
E-6: Judge's reading of self-def jury instruction helped. She's concerned about definition of "reasonable." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Zimmerman trial: Jurors questioned on gun rights, self-defense | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1054uX0  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 11:49:28 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
RT @sheafferlegal: Here's Fla. Stat. Sec 776.012 setting forth Justifiable Use of Force http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html … #zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
What #Zimmermanon9 would have been thinking and feeling.. What his perception was. 2/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
One commented on how reasonable belief would depend on the individual and the defense says they have to consider 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Approach which is one of teacher and friend. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says the state's friendly approach yesterday is differing from what the defense 's 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The judge is reading the law about justifiable use of deadly force and is saying what the defense had told the jury. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
State objects for the 6th time. This time about defense stating the law. They are up at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Great bodily harm. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Defense is asking how they feel about the right to use deadly force to prevent what one reasonably believes would be 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 11:53:09 AM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
6 jurors have concern about no duty to retreat. B-7: I opposed law when it was being proposed. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
H-6 on SYG: "I believe it was put there for a reason... you should be able to defend yourself." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara now questioning jurors on "stand your ground." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 20, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
 ::HelloKitty::  Hi Monks
How long did they say this trial would last? 2-4 weeks? not happening... I see at least 6-9 weeks of trial.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
The judge is reading the whole law again on justifiable use of deadly force in defending one's self. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The state objects for the 8th time to the defense reading the law to the panel. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
The state objects for the 7th time. But it  turned out to be a non-issue. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
B7 followed with though he disagrees with the law he hopes he can follow the law. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
The judge stopped the defense from explaining to a juror what retreat means.  B7 says he could not follow the law. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  15m 
Six people have problems with not having to retreat before using deadly force to protect yourself or others. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 20, 2013, 12:11:51 PM
MOM is very likeable.... His people skills are very, very good.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 12:13:36 PM
::HelloKitty::  Hi Monks
How long did they say this trial would last? 2-4 weeks? not happening... I see at least 6-9 weeks of trial.

The trial is supposed to be 2-4 weeks.  It has taken two week for jury selection.  So, I think the actual trial will probably take 4 weeks at most. But I'm just guessing.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:16:45 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
E-73 said yesterday it'd be hard to set that aside while serving in this case. Today says "I would hope so." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
E-73: "My nephew was shot and killed... It was a home invasion, he was shot through the door." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
E-6 is a domestic violence victim, had memory loss: "I did lose bits and pieces for a little while." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
B-35 was once punched & had knife-vs-bat standoff. "Has nothing to do with this." Been in other fights too. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@Queen_LaQueefa They decided not to have a pretrial SYG hearing, but SYG will be part of the jury's instructions.
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
Here's the standard text of the justifiable use of deadly force instruction. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin http://twitdoc.com/24LQ

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
Judge Nelson's reading the entire jury instruction on justifiable use of deadly force again. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 19m
B7 at #Zimmerman trial says he opposes SYG. Initially said he cud not follo the law then said "hope" I cud follo the law. #TrayvonMartin.
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 19m
Zimmerman trial: Jurors questioned on gun rights, self-defense | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1057cM6  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22m
B-7: "I would hope that I could follow the law." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 22m
B-7 says he may not be able to follow the "stand your ground" law: "I have a hard time answering that." #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Hi flamom!  It's good to see you here with us.   ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 20, 2013, 12:21:47 PM
Thanks Muffybee! and thanks to both you and graceland for continuing to post tweets.
I find myself slowly getting sucked into watching despite my intentions not to   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
O'Mara's now questioning athletes H-18, B-72. One says he could pick out an athlete by looks, other says no. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
K-95 also a domestic violence victim. Old boyfriend broke into her home.  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMatin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 12:28:31 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  1m 
Defense says he's close to being done. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
B7 showed deadpan humor again when asked if he gave and got hits when playing school football he said it was flag football. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10m 
E73 said her nephew was shot and killed through the door during a random home invasion and would hope she could set it aside. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
RT @WFTV: UPDATE: Martin jurors asked about presumption of innocence http://at.wftv.com/11AmypH  #zimmermanon9 pic.twitter.com/bEOnE248VL


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
I-24: Worried about people who don't have permits, carry guns anyway. "That's where my concern is." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
Funny moment: prospective juror opposed to concealed weapons permits had for 2 days sat next to one who had one. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Several jurors say they'd be uneasy if O'Mara had a firearm. Say they don't know him. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
B-7 against concealed weapons. Concerned about the "proliferation of handguns... Wild Wild West attitude." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 6m
O'Mara: I'm getting very close to being done. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
I-24 on NW: "It can be a good thing if the entire community is involved in it," but "unbalance" if not. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
O'Mara's now asking about neighborhood watch. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Kris Hey ‏@oskrishey 11m
Follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS and join our chat/stream for #GeorgeZimmerman trial coverage http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ   (http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ) #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
B-7 played football in school. "I was always slower," a lineman. Took hits? No, flag football. Laughter. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 12:36:34 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  48s 
State objected for the 9th time, this time for getting into facts of case. Judge sustained it. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
One juror candidate says she's concerned about all the people who have guns without concealed weapons permits. #Zimmermanon9   

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  10s 
One juror candidate says she's concerned about all the people who have guns without concealed weapons permits. #Zimmermanon9

 Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
@Pboyz4 Thanks for the follow! #Zimmermanon9
View conversation
   
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
having them. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
B7 says he doesn't like people having guns. He doesn't like  a wild, wild west attitude and doesn't even like deputies 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:45:40 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Judge Nelson on lunch: "I can hear their stomachs rumbling." O'Mara: I'm "about done." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
E-28, B-12 worry about not having opinion til end of trial. B-12: "You'll kinda be thinking in your head." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
O'Mara clarifies that law enforcement witnesses aren't considered expert witnesses. Fact witnesses. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Zimmerman trial: Jurors questioned on gun rights, self-defense | Updated story: http://bit.ly/105bwuX  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
E-6: Only concern about concealed weapon permit in this case is if carrier wasn't responsible. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 12:51:18 PM
June 20, 2012 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV  2m 
Jurors break for lunch. Judge Nelson discussing how attorneys will handle juror strikes and Frye hearing at 2. #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
 Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Jury candidates say they could tell the Martin family they find #Zimmermanon9  not guilty. B35 says he feels sorry for their loss but could

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
.@Markomaralaw done asking the group of potential jurors questions. We're breaking for lunch. #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:51:55 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@LyleMazin He's totally done.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
Lunch! Jurors off 'til 2:15 p.m. Lawyers back at 2 p.m. Then juror challenges. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Jurors say they can be fair to state & defense. O'Mara's done with questioning. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 12:58:11 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-9-20130620,0,5819772,full.story?cacsac
George Zimmerman trial: Lawyers finish jury selection questioning
Panel of 10 — six jurors, four alternates — sought to try Trayvon Martin shooting case.

June 20, 2013

Video at Link


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
Are news guessers talking opening statements Monday?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 01:19:41 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

David Manning ‏@fotodave 31m
@JeffWeinerOS juror challenges? Is there an obstacle course?
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 01:34:01 PM
Are news guessers talking opening statements Monday?

Alagary, from the tweets on page 21, this might be an answer to your question:

Quote
Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  1m 
O'Mara: it looks like we may start (evidence & testimony) Monday.
#Trayvon, #Zimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  44s 
O'Mara: "It looks like we may start Monday." Will last 2-4 weeks after that. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 01:42:50 PM
Thanks graceland , busy day. Trying to get some small projects done so I can spend more time watching the trial.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:04:24 PM
Thanks graceland , busy day. Trying to get some small projects done so I can spend more time watching the trial.

You're welcome, alagary.  Enjoy having you with us!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 02:10:50 PM
Only the second time watching voir dere. I now know bozo was the problem last time , FACT!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:12:03 PM
June 20, 2012 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
State strikes B35 an African American man who said today survival instinct kicks in during a fight. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Violating the court order involving internet. Judge denied excusing him for cause. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
The state wants P67 the Mexican American kicked off because off a language barrier, financial issues and accuses him of 1/2 #Zimmermanon9


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:20:19 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge: Potential jurors were mostly women, so gender of state strikes not unusual. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
B-12 was ok with judge. Now B-86: Cites #TrayvonMartin "expelled" comment. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 5m
Follow @JeffWeinerOS and @renestutzman as attorneys and the judge go over prospective jurors one by one. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
B-76 was also struck. Defense wants non-gender/race reason after state strikes several white woman. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
#TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman. Info on B-86 struck by state: A middle-aged white woman who works at a (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rku9s3  (http://tl.gd/n_1rku9s3)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
E-54 through both sides.B-12 struck by state. Current list: B-29 B-76 B-37 B-51 E-40 E-54. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
Defense strikes B-7. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
B-86: Struck by state. E-6: State strike. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
Current survivors: B-12 B-29 B-76 B-7 B-37 B-51. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
#GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin Info on B-35, struck by state: A middle-aged black man who owns a vending (cont) http://tl.gd/n_1rku9pk

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 13m
B-12: State & defense ok. B-29: Both sides ok. B-76: Oked by both. B-7: Both sides ok. B-35: State strikes. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Judge will not strike P-67 for cause. State doesn't want any more for cause strikes, nor defense. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMArtin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
O'Mara: P-67's language, media issues a "non issue." Doesn't want him struck for cause. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Never mind, the audio issue I was experiencing was my own. Stream's working fine.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17m
Attorneys are back in court. Working on audio for our stream. State wants P-67 struck for cause. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury could be revealed soon | Stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  Stream & chat | http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:21:53 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
State says E-6 is being struck because she expressed worries about being away from her kids. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge OKs strike of B-86. E-6 now up for discussion. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 3m
#TrayvonMartin's parents just returned to c-room. Atty's striking jurors they want out. #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:22:14 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Dana Chaaban ‏@sheafferlegal  6m 
Striking based on a potential juror's race/gender is illegal #zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
 Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
WATCH LIVE: Attorneys striking potential jurors to form final jury: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9 via @WFTV pic.twitter.com/RcTWXzaN9s


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
8 of first 12 jurors discussed were white women. State struck half. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
State notes the jurors still standing include women, to dispute defense's argument. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:30:08 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Those are still-standing jurors, if that wasn't clear.

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
First six listed by judge: B-29 B-76 B-37 B-51 E-6 E-40. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
E-6, B-76 back in, Nelson blocks state. #TrayvonMartiN #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
State: B-76 struck because she asked what #TrayvonMartin was doing out, misidentified a witness as TM's mom.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:35:50 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Defense, state have no back strikes to first six. Your Zimmerman jurors: B-29 B-76 B-37 B-51 E-6 E-40. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 4m
George #Zimmerman jurors being selected NOW. #trayvonmartin Watch live, join our chat: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-live-video-chat-20130612,0,7210676.htmlpage …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  2m 
Defense deciding whether to BACKSTRIKE any of the six: B29, B76, B37, B51 E6 or E40.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  5m 
Defense challenge state strike of B76, who wondered why #TrayvonMartin was out getting Skittles. Judge will not allow strike of her or E6.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  7m 
Judge delays ruling on  state strike of juror E6,  defense concerned state is unfairly striking white women.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  11m 
State struck e-6 because of her concern about caring for kids and her saying innocent people go to prison.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  12m 
Judge denies defense challenge to state strike of juror, who thought (wrongly) #TrayvonMartin was expelled from school.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  16m 
Judge finds state reason for strike of B12 genuine. Defense challenge denied.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  17m 
Batson challenge from defense seeking gender-neutral reason for state striking white women.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  19m 
State strikes B76, B86, E6, B12, B35. Defense strikes B7.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  23m 
Remember, back strikes can still occur so just because others are accepted does not mean they are in.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  24m 
B-35 conservative black male struck by state from #GeorgeZimmerman jury.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  24m 

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  26m 
Judge denies strike of Mexican-American P-67 for cause at state request for hardship, language difficulties. 40 remain in #GeorgeZimmerman

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  30m 
Strikes in open court. State wants new American, P-67, for hardship. Defense objects. Judge to decide


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:37:57 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 44s
BREAKING: #GeorgeZimmerman trial: Jury seated in #TrayvonMartin shooting case | http://bit.ly/11Plc9e
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
All six #GeorgeZimmeman jurors are women. 6 white, 1 hispanic. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Now on to alternates. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:40:24 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Jury seated in #TrayvonMartin shooting case | Info on jurors: http://bit.ly/11Plc9e
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 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 1m
6 who will decide this case:
5 white women, one Hispanic woman. #GeorgeZimmeman, #TrayvonMartin
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Correction: Tweeted wrong numbers in haste. I said 1 Hispanic 6 white, should've been 5 white. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:40:54 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  1m 
The only nonwhite woman among the 6 jurors is a recenlty relocated Chicago mother of eight. She maybe Hispanic and/or black.
 
Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  5m 
State challenges defense strike of black female M75, defense fears she works and Facebooks with a witness, Wes Robinson

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  4m 
All female jury, five of them white, will be the six regular jurors (for now). Alternates still being decided.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  5m 
State has no other strikes.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  6m 
No back strikes from defense.

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  6m 
All six remaining for now are women, 5 white, 1 black and/or Hispanic


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  1m 
State objects to defense strike of black female e-22. They discuss.
 
Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  2m 
State withdraws challenge to defense strike of M-75. She is out


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:47:17 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)
Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: E-22's pastor was very pro- #TrayvonMartin. Defense wants her struck. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 5m
#Zimmerman jury:
B29: Hispanic nurse w/ 8 kids. Lived in Chicago at time of shooting.
B76: white woman who said 'gun went off.'
#Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:48:52 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story
George Zimmerman trial: Jury selected in Trayvon Martin shooting case
June 20, 2013

SANFORD - A jury has been selected for the second-degree murder trial of George Zimmerman in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, after more than a week of intensive jury selection in the high-profile case.

The lawyers have selected six Seminole County residents to serve as jurors for a trial which is expected to last two to four weeks, and is sure to be closely watched across the nation.

Prosecutors say Zimmerman profiled, pursued and killed the unarmed teen Feb. 26, 2012, in Sanford. Zimmerman says he fired in self-defense after he was attacked by Trayvon, a high school junior from Miami Gardens.
Alternates are still being chosen. Here are some details about the jurors selected today, which were revealed during the jury selection process:

B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She’s married. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: “Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows.” During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.

More...


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:50:29 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
More on #Zimmerman jurors:
E6: stay-at-home mom, victim of DV.
E40: white woman, 60ish. Lived in Iowa at time of shooting.
#Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
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 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 4m
More on #Zimmerman jurors:
B37; white woman w/ lots of pets, "space" lawyer hub.
B51: retired Oviedo call center mgr.
#Zimmerman, #Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:51:31 PM
Just a thought, but I wonder how I would be described.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:52:44 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
Judge allows strike of E-22. Possible alternates: E-54, E-73, B-72, E-13 #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:52:59 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  15s 
Defense considering backstrikes among alternates E-13, B-72, E-73 and E-54. Two men, two women. All four white

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  2m 
State says just being member of church whose pastor espouses views does not mean juror E22 adopts view and should be struck. JUDGE: E22 GONE

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  6m 
Defense defends strike of e-22 because her pastor has written in support of #TrayvonMartin. Must have race-neutral reason


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 02:56:46 PM
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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  3m 
Alternates are e54, E73, b72 and e13



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 02:57:28 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweet Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 17s
Alternates not done yet: Defense strikes E-73. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 2m
It appears #Zimmerman alternate jurors are:
E54, white man
E73, white woman
B72, young man, maybe Hispanic
E13, white college girl
#Trayvon
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  53s 
Lawyers getting one more chance at backstrikes. State tries again on E-6

Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  1m 
Now defense wants to strike alternate e-73. She is gone. E-28 takes place.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:02:05 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
State trying again to strike E-6. Knows a defense witness. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Your #GeorgeZimmerman jury altenates (pending backstrikes): E-54, B-72, E-13, E-28. #TrayonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
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Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  15s 
Judge denies state third attempt to strike E-6. Jurors about to return to court.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  1m 
Of the 10, at least two are racially or ethnically ambiguous to public. B-29 may be Hispanic and/or black. Alternate B72 white and/or Hisp



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 5m
#Zimmerman alternates, finalized:
E54, white man w/ teenager
B72, young man, maybe Hispanic
E13, white college girl
E28, white woman nurse
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selected in #TrayvonMartin shooting case | Updated w/alternates: http://bit.ly/11Ppv4B  #GeorgeZimmerman
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
State denies another attepted E-6 strike. She stays. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 34s
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman awaiting jurors after 10 selected for trial. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/mNO1L87we9 (http://pic.twitter.com/mNO1L87we9)
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
George Zimmerman trial: Jury selected in Trayvon Martin shooting case | http://bit.ly/11Plc9e  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Judge Nelson will dismiss the other jurors, then bring in those chosen 10. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:17:24 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Screengrab: #GeorgeZimmerman awaiting jurors after 10 selected for trial. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/mNO1L87we9
(http://i.imgur.com/iHLCzfH.jpg)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:18:34 PM
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson to now-dismissed jurors: "do anything you want about this case and anything else." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson is now thanking the jurors about to be dismissed: "You have been wonderful" & patient. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
Just a thought, but I wonder how I would be described.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::
Scared Monkeys fill out a form and go home. Shame on you for watching the news and having an opinion.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  4m 
Judge dismisses The Unwanted from jury subpoenas. "Free to read, write get on the Internet."



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
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 (opened conversation)

Aura Bogado ‏@aurabogado 3m
@JeffWeinerOS Is parrot lady one of the jurors? (Please say no. Please.)

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@aurabogado She is one of the six jurors. B-37.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
Just a thought, but I wonder how I would be described.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::
Scared Monkeys fill out a form and go home. Shame on you for watching the news and having an opinion.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Yay!  Am I excused from posting tweets now?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
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Tony Pipitone Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone  3m 
The Chosen jurors file in, sworn. No smiles.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 03:29:26 PM
Thanks grace and muffy. It did not take me long to find out what a pain in the butt that was. 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:39:47 PM
Thanks grace and muffy. It did not take me long to find out what a pain in the butt that was. 

You're welcome alagary.  Your help with the tweets is appreciated, but I just gotta say some of your commentary just cracks me up!   ::MonkeyJnBox::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:41:31 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Story we'll update: http://bit.ly/11Pu4M6  #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@jonafent You can watch it live here: http://bit.ly/10EhrEz
 View conversation

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
@audacityofdope Not that I'm aware of.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
Meet the #GeorgeZimmerman jury | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11PtlKT  Opening arguments Monday. #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Frye hearing next, after a 15 minute recess. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
#GeorgeZimmerman jurors sworn in. They'll be back Monday morning for opening statements. #TrayvonMartin

 bob frier ‏@bfrier 18m
Final Jury in #georgezimmerman trial sworn in.  #fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 25m
Judge Nelson is now thanking the jurors about to be dismissed: "You have been wonderful" & patient. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 20, 2013, 03:47:52 PM
Looks like I'll be away from my desk for a bit.  The Frye Hearing is coming up.  I guess I'll know what happens when I get back...  Later taters  ::HelloKitty::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Amys Sister on June 20, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Defense, state have no back strikes to first six. Your Zimmerman jurors: B-29 B-76 B-37 B-51 E-6 E-40. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin 4m
George #Zimmerman jurors being selected NOW. #trayvonmartin Watch live, join our chat: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-live-video-chat-20130612,0,7210676.htmlpage …
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

My guess is E40 will be the foreperson.

Could be the coffee but I'm feeling a little jumpy about this trial, the verdict, and the outcome.  Not because of public backlash but my personal desire that it be fair.  If I'm feeling this way I'm sure the families are beside themselves.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
Thanks grace and muffy. It did not take me long to find out what a pain in the butt that was. 

You're welcome, alagary!  Thanks for helping out and for your funny comments--they made posting tweets more bearable!  ::piggy::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:11:19 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story?dasdae

George Zimmerman trial: Jury selected, opening statements begin Monday
3:28 p.m. EDT, June 20, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Here are some details about the jurors selected today, which were revealed during the jury selection process:

B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She’s married. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: “Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows.” During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.

B-76: A white, middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an “altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off.” Has been married 30 years, and is unemployed. She formerly worked with her husband in his construction company. Her 28-year-old son is an attorney in Seminole County. She also has a daughter, 26, has been a victim of non-violent crime and rescues “a lot of pets.” The state tried to strike her, but was denied.

B-37: A middle-aged white woman who has worked for a chiropractor for 16 years and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as “rioting.” Her husband is an attorney. She has two daughters: A 24-year-old dog groomer and a 27-year-old who attends the University of Central Florida. B-37 used to have concealed weapons permit, but let it lapse. Her husband also has one.

B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said “I'm not rigid in my thinking.” She has been in Seminole County for nine years, is unmarried and has no kids. B-51 previously lived in Atlanta, and used to work in real estate. She also ran a call center in Brevard County which she said had 1,200 employees.

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her two adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night. She has lived in Seminole County for eight years, and is married to an engineer. E-6 was arrested in Brevard County, but said she “was treated completely fairly.” Her husband has guns. The state tried to strike her from the jury, but was denied.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. She described herself as a safety officer, is married to a chemical engineer and loves football. She has a 28-year-old son who’s out of work. She said she’s very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.

These are the alternates:

E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries. E-54 loves golf and genealogy, and said he’s been married for five years to a technical engineer. He grew up in Seminole County and has a teenage stepson.

B-72: A young, possibly Hispanic man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be “brainwashed.” B-72 grew up in Chicago, is single and an alumni of Phi Beta Kappa. He is very physically active, having participated in high school football, track and weightlifting. Of arm-wrestling he said, “I could talk about it all day.”

E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs, one of them as a surgical assistant. She heard the shooting was a “racial thing.” She said she could be a fair juror “just because I don't really know that much.” She is single, has lived in Seminole County for 17 years and attends church. She also owns and rides horses.

E-28: A middle-aged white woman who has worked as a nurse for 26 years. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt. She has lived in Seminole County since 1985, and has been married for 28 years; her husband is a teacher. Has two adult children: 27, 23 yo kids, theme park.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
The funny comments stop Monday, I think, but if there is a grief expert I make no promises.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:19:50 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  47s 
Owen: Report defense expert Wayman referred to as mine is "absolutely not" mine. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  1m 
C-room a near ghost town, despite ongoing hearing on "screams" recording. #Trayvon's family gone. So is O'Mara, #Zimmerman & his family.
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Owen's testimony starts with two quick defense objections. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
State wanted to ask Owen about a conversation he had about software, defense objects. Sustained. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  9m 
#GeorgeZimmerman leaves court for the day. Hearing on audio experts starts. State expert Tom Owen testifying by Skype. #Trayvon
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:23:07 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
West and Owen are talking about the report Wayman referred to. Some confusion on which document/page. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Owen says he's testified opposite defense expert Nakasone "several times." State done with questions. #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?

Yep, he's an expert in the software. imo



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?

Yep, he's an expert in the software. imo


That he can not explain. except for saying it's an algorithim.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:30:25 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
West: Last time you and Nakasone testified in same case? Owen: Miami, federal case, a while ago. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
West: You don't know algorithms behind software? State objects. Nelson: He answered earlier, anyway. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Owen says the document is a "sales document," not a scientific report. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
West and Owen are talking about the report Wayman referred to. Some confusion on which document/page. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
Owen says he's testified opposite defense expert Nakasone "several times." State done with questions


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:35:43 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Owen says he used one of two softwares he used in that case for this case. Owen done w/testimony

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  51s 
Owen: Nakasone and I both testified in 1999. My voice ID was admitted, defendant took plea. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Nelson asks West, "please don't cut him off in the middle of his answer anymore." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West interrupts Owen, who's getting frustrated: "Let me finish." West says Owen isn't being responsive


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:36:25 PM
Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:39:15 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Mantei: "Florida law favors" letting jury sort out "contested" matters. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei to argue now. Cites admissibility law. Gives judge a copy


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  21s 
Mantei notes defense expert French agreed with state on not setting minimum length for sample, less needed for exclusion. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei says Reich's approach wasn't "new and novel," he used common techniques and "concluded that these screams were not" #GeorgeZImmerman.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Mantei on Owen: "He's analyzed screams before," and "did not attempt to identify the voice," just exclude


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:53:53 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
West: Reich's work "isn't done yet." No other experts hear "what he claims to hear." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West: "We have been scrambling" to "get our hands around" state's audio expert testimony. No depo of Owen

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Mantei says judge should let jury decide experts' credibility. West up next. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Updated story: http://bit.ly/10BktyF  #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
Mantei argues Frye hearing wasn't even necessary in this case. Says techniques are well established. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
Mantei: Another defense expert spent "less than 10 minutes" listening to audio in this case


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  58s 
West says defense's experts are better qualified: "distinguished international experts." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West: It's the state's burden, they didn't call anyone to validate work by Owen and Reich. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin  40s 
VIDEO: Hear what jury selection was like from a prospective juror in the #Zimmerman jury pool. #trayvonmartin  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story …
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Updated story: http://bit.ly/10BktyF  TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
More West on Reich: "He's making it up." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@MikeSchneiderAP He did! Look out, Bond!

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
West on Reich: "His report should begin, 'It was a dark and stormy night.'" #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
West: Trying to analyze this audio is a "waste of everybody's time." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:08:24 PM
Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?

No.  The other state's expert...

Quote
Reich was the most anticipated audio expert. In a report last month, he wrote that shortly before the gunshot, he heard Trayvon in a trembling voice say, "I'm begging you."

At the same time, Reich wrote, Zimmerman could be heard talking like an evangelist and saying, "These shall be."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-audio



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:10:51 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
West on Reich: "The best scientists in the world can't figure out what he did." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
West calls defense expert George Doddington a "scientist's scientist." Says Owen has financial interest. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 05:15:10 PM
Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?

No.  The other state's expert...

Quote
Reich was the most anticipated audio expert. In a report last month, he wrote that shortly before the gunshot, he heard Trayvon in a trembling voice say, "I'm begging you."

At the same time, Reich wrote, Zimmerman could be heard talking like an evangelist and saying, "These shall be."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-audio


Okay thanks . I have an opinion on that.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:20:25 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  36s 
West calls this "perhaps the most important evidence in this case. It caught the attention of jurors." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
.@OrlandoSentinel reporter @MComas was a potential #GeorgeZimmerman juror last week. His story: http://bit.ly/16Qevct  #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West again says it's the state's burden to show their experts' testimony is generally accepted in community. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
@YancyFaith @DianeAx @MandyMcGlothlin You're talking about Owen? No, we didn't pay him.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:25:20 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  30s 
Mantei: Owen's financial interest in software he used is "miniscule... He hasn't made hardly anything

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
@MzMahoganyB @renestutzman Thanks!!
View conversation      Reply 
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei: You don't have to have a PhD to testify (Owen). Reich's opinion "tentative," not "preliminary." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: klaasend on June 20, 2013, 05:28:26 PM
Whether or not we hit page 50, on Sunday night I'll move to the new thread so we can start with a fresh thread for the actual begging of the trial.

FWIW - I'm disappointed it is an all female jury.  My personal first hand experience with an all female jury was not good.  Instead of basing their opinion/decision on facts and law, they based it on the appearance of the attorneys.  Hopefully this jury will be different.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 20, 2013, 05:29:15 PM
(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/2013/01/nancy_grace_vodka_mom.jpg)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  59s 
Court resumes tomorrow at 9 a.m. for motions that still need to be heard before openings.  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Nelson: No ruling tonight on audio experts. Going home to review notes. Order tomorrow. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei: "The evidence should be heard by the jury, and let them decide." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 20, 2013, 07:24:33 PM
Whether or not we hit page 50, on Sunday night I'll move to the new thread so we can start with a fresh thread for the actual begging of the trial.

FWIW - I'm disappointed it is an all female jury.  My personal first hand experience with an all female jury was not good.  Instead of basing their opinion/decision on facts and law, they based it on the appearance of the attorneys.  Hopefully this jury will be different.



Do you have pictures of the attorneys that you could post side by side?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: klaasend on June 20, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
Whether or not we hit page 50, on Sunday night I'll move to the new thread so we can start with a fresh thread for the actual begging of the trial.

FWIW - I'm disappointed it is an all female jury.  My personal first hand experience with an all female jury was not good.  Instead of basing their opinion/decision on facts and law, they based it on the appearance of the attorneys.  Hopefully this jury will be different.



Do you have pictures of the attorneys that you could post side by side?

 ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 20, 2013, 07:51:03 PM
Whether or not we hit page 50, on Sunday night I'll move to the new thread so we can start with a fresh thread for the actual begging of the trial.

FWIW - I'm disappointed it is an all female jury.  My personal first hand experience with an all female jury was not good.  Instead of basing their opinion/decision on facts and law, they based it on the appearance of the attorneys.  Hopefully this jury will be different.



Do you have pictures of the attorneys that you could post side by side?

 ::MonkeyDevil::

 ::MonkeyGavel::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: islandmonkey on June 20, 2013, 08:42:23 PM
Whether or not we hit page 50, on Sunday night I'll move to the new thread so we can start with a fresh thread for the actual begging of the trial.

FWIW - I'm disappointed it is an all female jury.  My personal first hand experience with an all female jury was not good.  Instead of basing their opinion/decision on facts and law, they based it on the appearance of the attorneys.  Hopefully this jury will be different.



I agree, and also I think they sometimes tend to let emotion rule vs logic/facts themselves......but I am also seeing an immediate issue due to another case when there were no blacks on the jury . I can't recall the case off hand but it's now being appealed on that reason alone


 ::snipping3::
Under a formula set out in a 1985 Supreme Court decision, opposing lawyers who can establish reason to believe race played a role (such as no black jurors in a case, or a history of rejecting black jurors) can raise an inference of discrimination. If, for example, the prosecutor in this case can establish an inference that Zimmerman is explicitly rejecting non-white jurors, the judge will compel Zimmerman to provide a race-neutral reason for the rejection. These reasons, however, pass muster so long as they don’t exhibit intentional racial discrimination. Lawyers often use thinly veiled excuses to reject black jurors, such as “having relatives who attended historically black colleges; for the way they walk; for chewing gum; and, frequently, for living in predominantly black neighborhoods,” according to a 2011 Equal Justice Institute report on jury selection discrimination.

In Florida, state law actually imposes a slightly higher burden than even the federal standard, by requiring the judge to consider whether the race-neutral reason for rejecting a juror was “genuine” via several factors, such as whether other jurors gave similar answers during questioning but were not struck. This has led to some reasonable success, as state appeals courts have overturned 33 criminal cases in which prosecutors struck jurors based on race since the 1985 Supreme Court ruling.

Swain vs Alabama

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/06/11/2133171/how-george-zimmermans-lawyers-cant-use-race-in-jury-selection/

 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-analysts-see-defense-edge-20130620,0,7572541.post

George Zimmerman: Analysts see defense edge
By Hal BoedekerStaff writer
5:21 p.m. EDT, June 20, 2013

How good a day was Thursday for the defense team in the George Zimmerman trial?

TV's legal analysts were applauding defense attorney Mark O'Mara before and after the jury was selected.

"It was a really good day for Mark O’Mara," WOFL-Channel 35 legal analyst Diana Tennis said. "He got a lot of good information from the jurors today during the conversation. They gave him lot of input rather than him giving them a lot of input, which means he learned a lot more about them." She theorized that he kept some people he liked most.

Randy McClean, another WOFL analyst, said the all-woman jury would be "very favorable" to the defense. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

WESH-Channel 2 legal analyst Richard Hornsby agreed that the jury makeup favored the defense.

"With female jurors, in my experience, is they tend to pick an attorney they like," Hornsby said. "What attorneys are these jurors gravitating toward? Whose personalities are they enjoying? [Prosecutor] Bernie [de la Rionda] is a very bombastic attorney. I think he may grate on them after a while. … O'Mara and [defense attorney Don] West are kind of endearing. That may be a bigger impact overall in the long term.”

But WESH analyst Alisia Adamson said the jury makeup seemed to favor the state. "The thought of a mother losing a child is so detrimental, so horrific," she said. But later, she added, that having no African-Americans on the jury would be a benefit to the defense.

Diversity was another major focus for the analysts.

WESH analyst Jeff Deen theorized that the lack of diversity will be on jurors' minds and predicted they would go out of their way to follow the judge's instructions.
 ::snipping3::




Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 11:11:10 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-female-jury/story?id=19437833#.UcPDJ74o7IU

George Zimmerman Gets All-Female Jury
SANFORD, Fla. June 20, 2013

An all female jury has been selected for the murder trial of George Zimmerman, the Florida man charged with second degree murder in the killing of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin.

The trial is scheduled to begin Monday with opening statements.

In a case that has had racial overtones since Martin's death in February 2012, the ethnic makeup of the panel comes as a surprise. Five members of the panel are white and one is a minority. It was not immediately known whether the minority juor was black or a black Hispanic.

Martin was black, and Zimmerman is white and Hispanic.

The six jurors were chosen from hundreds of potential jurors over nine days and will be sequestered for the length of the trial.

Four alternate jurors were also selected, including one Hispanic man, one white man and two white women.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said after court that he was "looking forward to Monday" and predicted the trial would last "as much as four weeks."

He said Zimmerman was glad a jury had been seated because "he's been waiting 15 to 16 months to clear his name."

The lawyer said his decision on jurors were "race neutral."

Ben Crump, a lawyer for the Martin family, said, "We believe as long as this jury is fair and impartial, with the evidence that they have, they will return a verdict holding George Zimmerman accountable."

"With the makeup of this jury, the issue of whether every American can get equal justice no matter who serves on this jury panel will be answered. And we expect the jury pool to do its duty and follow the law," he said.

Crump said Trayvon Martin's parents "have so much faith in the justice system, they pray that it doesn't fail them."
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Amys Sister on June 21, 2013, 01:20:59 AM
Whether or not we hit page 50, on Sunday night I'll move to the new thread so we can start with a fresh thread for the actual begging of the trial.

FWIW - I'm disappointed it is an all female jury.  My personal first hand experience with an all female jury was not good.  Instead of basing their opinion/decision on facts and law, they based it on the appearance of the attorneys.  Hopefully this jury will be different.



Something about that bothers me as well.  Can't really put my finger on it because I generally hold our gender in high regard but this jury is just bothering me for some reason.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:04:17 AM
 ::HelloKitty::  Good morning everyone!

June 21, 2013 Tweets

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Lawyers are also expected to discuss a state motion to keep out "self serving hearsay."

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  1m 
Defense lawyers want to keep out  phrases such as "profiled," "vigilante,"  "wannabe cop" and "self appointed neighborhood watch captain."
 
Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Today lawyers will be discussing a motion by Zimmerman's attorney to keep "inflammatory language" out of trial. More in next tweet.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  4m 
Court is back in session. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:12:14 AM
June 21, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
One of the most important things that may happen to today is that Judge Nelson may rule whether state voice experts will testify at trial.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Defense attorneys have also asked Judge Nelson to revisit their motion to sanction state prosecutors


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:22:18 AM
June 21, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
The hearing has begun. #Zimmermanon9

Deneige Broom Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  19m 
#Zimmerman not in court today. O'Mara told him it wasn't necessary. Judge says it's fine #Zimmermanon9 #TrayvonMartin
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  25m 
WATCH LIVE: Judge to rule if state audio experts can tell jurors screams weren't #Zimmerman http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF  #Zimmermanon9 via @WFTV


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:32:19 AM
Adding tweets from following person for someone to post if they choose--

June 21, 2013 tweets

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Judge to O'Mara on openings: "If they don't prove it, they don't prove it." Point that out in closing. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
O'Mara: Profiling term implies racial. "It's like peanut butter and jelly." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
State: We want to say #GeorgeZimmerman was told not to follow #TrayvonMartin, also that he confronted TM. That's state's theory of case.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
State also won't call #GeorgeZimmerman was "self-appointed" Neighborhood Watch captain. #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
Guy: State won't say #TrayvonMartin "solely" profiled because of race. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
John Guy: Profiled isn't racially charged term. "There are a number of ways" someone could be profiled. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  9m 
Now: Defense motion to keep state from using terms, like "profiled," in opening. State: No caselaw to support that. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  10m 
Nelson: I'm not going to issue a general ruling on authentication request now. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  11m 
Judge Nelson repeatedly interrupted O'Mara to tell him to get to the point. State: Stick to evidence rules. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
O'Mara wants authentication rules relaxed re #TrayvonMartin's phone, says state delay kept him from properly prepping. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  13m 
O'Mara now brings up sanctions. Judge Nelson had said she wanted this delayed until post-trial. #GeorgeZImmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  14m 
.@OrlandoSentinel reporter, and former potential #GeorgeZimmerman juror --> MT @mcomas: I was known as Juror E29...
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-911-screams-20130621,0,2801507.story …

Lyle Mazin Lyle Mazin ‏@LyleMazin  15m 
States motion to perpetuate testimony means they wish to depose witness & play his testimony at trial in lieu of live testimony #zimmerman
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  16m 
Defense says some statements should get in. Judge Nelson says state didn't get proper notice of this issue. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  17m 
They're now debating state motion to block #GeorgeZimmerman defense statements state calls self-serving hearsay. Nelson says she's ruled.

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  18m 
#TrayvonMartin's parents not in court. Neither are #GeorgeZimmerman's parents


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:36:14 AM
June 21, 2013 tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  3m 
Judge Nelson said state prosecutors can use the words profiling, vigilante, confronted and "wanna be cop." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Prosecutors said they don't plan to only talk about race. Profiling can be dress, age, and what time you are somewhere, John Guy said.

Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
Judge Nelson just ruled prosecutors can't use term "racial profiling" during the trial Prosecutors say profiling can be racial, age or dress


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:40:23 AM
June 21, 2013 tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
She has no time today and demanded that the defense put it in writing. #Zimmerman

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The defense is pressing the judge to rule on whether self-serving statements #Zimmerman made can come in and she made it clear 1/2 #


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 09:52:29 AM
June 21, 2013 tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
The hearing is over. Court adjourned until 9 Monday morning. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
Judge joked about admitting on national tv she has no fax machine at home to send both sides a ruling over the weekend. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
The judge says she will rule today on whether the jury will hear from experts on who was heard screaming for help. #Zimmermanon9

Deneige Broom Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  13m 
Typing a lot of notes, slow to tweet right now. But judge is clearly annoyed w/ not having some motions in writing #Zimmermanon9
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
She has no time today and demanded that the defense put it in writing. #Zimmerman

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
The defense is pressing the judge to rule on whether self-serving statements #Zimmerman made can come in and she made it clear 1/2 #


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
June 21, 2013 tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Zimmerman trial: State can say #TrayvonMartin was profiled | Updated: http://bit.ly/19YkoIp  #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  5m 
#Zimmerman trial over for the day. Lasted 46 minutes. Judge may or may not get out order on whether state "screams" experts testify.
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
Zimmerman trial: State can say Trayvon Martin was profiled | Updated story: http://bit.ly/19YjH1H  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  9m 
Court in recess until Monday morning, for opening arguments. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  10m 
Judge Nelson: "We're running in circles here." Has been stern this morning. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  13m 
It looks like we're not going to find out Nelson's Frye ruling today. May work over weekend. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  19m 
Judge Nelson is rattled, emotional as Don West argues with her.
Says she's still writing order re state audio experts. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
   from Sanford, FL     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  19m 
@DavidOvalle305 I don't have a fax at home. You?
View conversation     

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  21m 
West: You could fax us the Frye order. Nelson: No fax at home. "I'm sorry to disclose that on national TV." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  22m 
Judge Nelson's Frye order will apparently be in writing. Hopes to finish it today. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  23m 
Zimmerman trial: State can say profiled, "wannabe cop" in opening | Updated story: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Valerie Boey Valerie Boey ‏@vboey  26m 
Jurors will sit in 2 rows, 5 and 5. To be closer to witness stand.#fox35
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner 
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  27m 
Nelson also rules that state can say #GeorgeZimmerman confronted #TrayvonMartin. Says that's the state's theory of case.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  28m 
Nelson: Profiling (not racial profiling), vigilante ok if state wants to say that. Wannabe cop too. #GeorgeZimemrman #TrayvonMartin


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 21, 2013, 10:43:25 AM
 ::jeep3::

June 21, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 18m
@EscoLee She said she expects they'll have her ruling by Monday morning, presumably before openings.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 49m
Zimmerman trial: State can say #TrayvonMartin was profiled | Updated: http://bit.ly/19YkoIp  #GeorgeZimmerman


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 21, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
June 21, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros (https://twitter.com/jeffweineros)

Orlando Sentinel ‏@orlandosentinel 16m
RT @jeffweineros: PDF: Today's @orlandosentinel front page. #GeorgeZimmerman jurors seated yesterday. #TrayvonMartin http://twitdoc.com/24PO  (http://twitdoc.com/24PO)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner

 osbreakingnews ‏@osbreakingnews 35m
George Zimmerman trial: State can say Trayvon Martin was profiled http://bit.ly/12RBlBs (http://bit.ly/12RBlBs)
 Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
 View summary

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 38m
PDF: Today's @OrlandoSentinel front page. #GeorgeZimmerman jurors seated yesterday. #TrayvonMartin http://twitdoc.com/24PO  (http://twitdoc.com/24PO)


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 21, 2013, 12:49:15 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1306/20/ddhln.01.html
DR. DREW
Mystery of Missing Toddler; Death Of A TV Icon
Aired June 20, 2013 - 21:00   ET


 ::snipping3::
Then, Robert Zimmerman exclusive. The brother of the man who killed Trayvon Martin gives me his last and only interview until after the trial.
 ::snipping3::
Next up, Robert Zimmerman reveals his family`s pain in the year since Trayvon Martin was killed. This is his only interview until the trial has completed.

And later on, a "Sopranos" insider is here to celebrate the life of James Gandolfini.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the late hour at night, those times alone, those are the times that the breakdown comes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VINNIE POLITAN, HLN ANCHOR: Coming up top of the hour, "HLN After Dark," the second part of my interview with Trayvon Martin`s father, Tracy Martin.

Also, coming up top of the hour, a bold question for our jury. Will women convict Zimmerman? Six women sitting in judgment of George Zimmerman, but does this jury of mostly women think the women in Seminole County will convict George Zimmerman? A verdict by the end of the program.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was looking for my phone. And he just punched me in the nose. And I fell backwards and to the side, somehow I ended up on my back. And I felt him take one hand off my mouth and slide it down my chest. And I just pinched his arm and I grabbed my gun and I aimed it at him and fired one shot. He kind of sat back and said, you got me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST: Back with my co-host, Samantha Schacher. George Zimmerman`s brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr. is here with us tonight and we will talk about their family, their relationship, Trayvon Martin, and how events have affected all of them. This, a reminder, is his only and final interview until after the trial.

Joining us as well, Lauren Lake, Jenny Hutt, Wendy Walsh, and of course, Robert Zimmerman Jr. Panel, I`m going to ask you to sit by for just a second here then we`ll jump in with your questions. Mr. Zimmerman, thank you so much for joining us. What exactly is your relationship with your brother now? Are you guys close? Are you together? Tell me what that relationship is like.

ROBERT ZIMMERMAN, JR., GEORGE ZIMMERMAN`S BROTHER: Well, good evening, Dr. Drew. Thanks for having me. I was asked that actually by the state of Florida when i was deposed and I described George as the closest person to me. I think what is essential between brothers is trust.

And the best example I can give is right before this happened, our grandmother was hospitalized and George called me and he arranged for me -- for my transportation in Florida so that we could take care of her. She`s a very important person to us and it`s the same thing I`m doing right now during the trial. I`ve advocated for George as best that I could.

Now, this is in the hands of the jury, of the justice system, and it`s important that his parents and other family members can advocate for him as well. And since we take care of our grandmother as a family, I know that George wouldn`t want anyone else in the world to do that. And if I were in his shoes, I would absolutely trust him to do the same. He did the same thing when our dad had heart attack just days before this, arranged for me to get to Florida.

He slept in the hospital every night with dad. And I ran the household, as it were, so that our mom could be by her husband`s side. That`s the kind of family we are. We come together in times of crisis. And George is very much the same way.

PINSKY: OK. We`re looking at a lot of pictures alongside of you of you two as children. And you look like you were close growing up. I beg your pardon, we don`t know each other, but I`d heard rumors that lately you were estranged from your family. Do you want to set that record straight?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes. There was a statement my father made to one of George`s attorneys who is not representing him anymore. Dad was trying to protect me, to insulate me, and said that I would not have anything further to add since I didn`t live in Florida at the time. The news being the news did what they did with that.

I think NBC`s Torre (ph) was the one who kind of got that ball rolling with Piers Morgan somehow suggesting that I hadn`t seen or spoken to my family in ten years. It`s absurd, it`s nonsense. Like I said, we were together three or four nights before this happened, discharging our dad from the hospital and seeing to his welfare at home.

PINSKY: And, also, you spoke to some of my -- one of my producers and told him how terrorized you and your family were by when this -- what happened after this all went down. Can you describe what that was like and how much despair you, yourself, expressed?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes. I think, you know, initially, when this happened, it was tragic. It was -- that`s the best word to describe it. That`s how we felt all of us. The mood was somber in our family. I think after March 7th when the false narratives started coming to life and twisting the story and race started getting injected, that`s when the terror set in. And shortly after, the Black Panthers would be hunting for George. The police would tell me my home was not safe.

Spike Lee (ph) would tweet someone`s address he thought was my parents` and alter that family`s way of life. Roseanne Barr (ph) would go on to do something similar to our parents, and we would all essentially become homeless, on the run, in and out of hotels so that people who would harm us or people who were out rallying in the streets, very disrespectful at best messages about George would not find us or hurt us.

And we have been ID`d, I have been several times, not just in Florida, but in Washington, too. And it`s put me in a very awkward situation.

PINSKY: OK. I want to give my panel -- we just got very limited time here. We`re against the clock. But I will continue this with the panel after we get back. But Lauren, do you have any questions for Mr. Zimmerman?

LAUREN LAKE, ATTORNEY: Yes, Robert. I wanted to ask you. You say you`re close with your brother. And people have described him as having a vigilante-type personality. And I want to know if you agree with that, and if not, if you could just shed us -- for us some light on what he was like growing up. What was his personality like?

ZIMMERMAN: You know, I`ve heard even Dr. Drew throw that kind of terminology around -- cowboy or, you know, try to get inside George`s head without even knowing him. And it`s not just Dr. Drew, but it`s a lot of people who are relying on that element or introducing that to make that false narrative make more sense in the vacuum of evidence and in the vacuum of the results of an investigation that was actually happening despite what the NAACP and others would say.

I think growing up, George was my little brother. And I was his big brother. We are very well-known in our community. I think when the media found out about people who knew us in our community, they would use the term collectively "the boys." We were altar servers together growing up. We were two young men who spoke Spanish who were bilingual in our community.

And at that time, that was a rarity. So, we always had that in common, that we were the product of a biracial love story. And, you know, enjoyed doing things brothers two growing up, normal things that any brother would do.

PINSKY: OK. You guys, I`ve got to take a quick break. Hang in there. We are here with Robert Zimmerman, Jr. We`ll have more with him in just a second.

And later, James Gandolfini`s friend and fellow "Sopranos" star is here to tell us about the actor and his friends, his life, his loves after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: Back with my co-host, Samantha Schacher and George Zimmerman`s brother, Robert Jr. Jenny, go ahead with your question.

JENNY HUTT, SIRIUS XM RADIO HOST: OK. First of all, Robert, thank you for being here as well and I`m sorry that you`ve experienced cyber bullying. Nobody should have to experience any bullying anywhere. So, here`s my question. It`s been reported that you`ve said that you don`t believe that your brother should have even been arrested.

Had the circumstances been different and Trayvon had been the one to pull the trigger and your brother had been killed, would you have not wanted Trayvon arrested either?

ZIMMERMAN: Well, I think what I`ve said and I`ve been very clear is the law, the statute as it stands, suggests that self-defense is not something we criminalize. And, you know, I think what you`re asking when you say George versus Trayvon is you`re saying what Mr. Crump (ph) and others who have been spinning this false from the beginning is if race were reversed.

And I would say no. In the exactly same set -- exact same set of circumstances, an arrest was inappropriate because a crime was not committed. It was an act of self-defense. And again, it`s not something we should criminalize in our society. It`s something we have a right to.

PINSKY: Hey, Robert, before this episode, was George ever the object of other victimization or violence?

ZIMMERMAN: Absolutely not, no. And you know, I`m glad you brought that up, because the FBI, themselves, have been looking far and wide. They`ve interviewed many people, looking not only for signs of violence or being a victim of violence or a perpetrator of violence, but including, you know, racism or even racial innuendo in his past life. And it went beyond just the local investigation to the state police, to the FBI. and there`s no there there.

Despite what you might hear from attorneys for Mr. Martin`s family who used race to perpetuate this false narrative after March 7th. There`s no there there. And that`s why we look forward as a family to George finally being able to clear his name 16 months after this happened in a court of law.

PINSKY: Wendy. Wendy, go ahead.

WENDY WALSH, PH.D., AUTHOR, "THE 30-DAY LOVE DETOX: Well, you know, you talked about the isolation you had and sort of having to be on the lam as a family, staying in hotels. Do you feel safe yet and what are you doing to, you know, keep yourself mentally healthful, if you will?

ZIMMERMAN: Well, I`m signing off-camera for tonight and that will keep me safer because it will keep me out of harm`s way. I won`t be in studios and I won`t be traveling. To keep my mind healthy, we pray. We spend as much time together as we can as a family. I remember years ago, Anderson Cooper had an interview with Oprah Winfrey about his brother`s suicide and that was always something that stuck out in my mind as, you know, looking forward.

April 11th when George was arrested, I just prayed to God that George would be stronger than something like that. And he has been. And, it`s not something to suggest he ever contemplated it, but if it was something that I had even thought of --

PINSKY: Did you?

ZIMMERMAN: I don`t think that contemplation is the word. I think it`s something that had never crossed my mind before. I think it was desperation, not seeing a way out, you know, trying to have some kind of life for myself in D.C. But there`s marches and rallies and protests outside my window all around me and signs suggesting my brother`s a racist or a murderer.

And really, it looked like there would be no way out except for the prosecuting attorney that came from Tallahassee to have made the right call and explain to the people that the investigation that was happening was valid, that there was no crime here, and that despite whatever anybody`s race is or is not, that the law should have been followed and no one should have been charged with a crime.

PINSKY: OK. Robert, thank you for joining us. Robert Zimmerman Jr., thank you, sir. Thank you to the panel. Reminder, Vinnie Politan will speak to Trayvon Martin`s father immediately after our program on "After Dark."

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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 21, 2013, 03:44:17 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/06/21/judge-to-rule-on-voice-id-experts-in-zimmerman-trial/2447091/
Ruling on voice ID experts in George Zimmerman trial expected today
June 21, 2013SANFORD, Fla—A ruling on whether voice identification experts will testify at George Zimmerman's trial is expected Friday.

Circuit Judge Debra Nelson told lawyers for both sides Friday morning that she wanted to end court proceedings early to study her notes from a hearing about the experts and issue her decision. Defense lawyers are trying to keep a state witness from testifying that he can hear Trayvon Martin screaming stop in the background of a 911 call.

Attorneys in a Frye hearing held over more than four days tried to convince Nelson that experts either could explain their theories on the call or should be thrown out as junk science.
 ::snipping3::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/6/21/george_zimmerman_tri_0.html

Zimmerman judge allows 'defamatory' terms, no 911 ruling yet
Last Updated: Friday, June 21, 2013, 12:24 PM

SANFORD --
Lawyers prosecuting George Zimmerman are allowed to use terms like "vigilante" and "wannabe cop" once the trial begins Monday.

Judge Debra Nelson made the ruling in court Friday, denying a defense motion to have what they called "defamatory" words and phrases banned from Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial.

The judge still needs to decide whether the jury of six women and four alternates will hear testimony from voice experts who analyzed audio from a 911 call made the night Trayvon Martin was shot and killed last year. She said she would release that ruling in writing, possibly later Friday.

Court is in recess until Monday morning, when attorneys are set to begin opening statements at 9 a.m.

'Defamatory' terms allowed

Judge Nelson said the state is allowed to say that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin, but the state agreed to stay away from saying the black teenager was "racially profiled."

Prosecutors can also say that Zimmerman initiated the neighborhood watch at the Retreat at Twin Lakes subdivision, and that he was appointed captain.

The judge also allowed the following terms the defense sought to ban:

"Vigilante"
"Wannabe cop"
He "got out of the car after police (or dispatcher) told him not to"
He "confronted" Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman waived his right to appear in court for Friday's hearing. He has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder, claiming he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defense.

If convicted, Zimmerman faces a sentence of 25 years to life in prison.
 ::snipping3::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/317376/568/Judge-in-George-Zimmerman-case-to-rule-in-writing-on-voice-expert-testimony

Opening statements begin Monday
3:02 PM, Jun 21, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Nelson also ruled that in opening statements prosecutors can say that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin, but they may not say the Miami teen was "racially profiled" by the neighborhood watch volunteer.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said that the words "racial profiling" could "infect the jury with a racial component."

She said the state can say that Zimmerman "confronted" Martin because that is the basis for their case. The terms "vigilante" and "wanna-be cop" will also be allowed.

Nelson told the lawyers opening statements are not evidence anyway, and if they fail to prove what they said they could in those statements, the defense is free to tell the jury that.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 21, 2013, 04:37:32 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/317376/568/Judge-in-George-Zimmerman-case-to-rule-in-writing-on-voice-expert-testimony

Opening statements begin Monday
3:02 PM, Jun 21, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Nelson also ruled that in opening statements prosecutors can say that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin, but they may not say the Miami teen was "racially profiled" by the neighborhood watch volunteer.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said that the words "racial profiling" could "infect the jury with a racial component."

She said the state can say that Zimmerman "confronted" Martin because that is the basis for their case. The terms "vigilante" and "wanna-be cop" will also be allowed.

Nelson told the lawyers opening statements are not evidence anyway, and if they fail to prove what they said they could in those statements, the defense is free to tell the jury that.



BBM

Anyone else thinking back to the opening statements by Jose Baez in the CA trial?   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 21, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
Yes, I remember that, MuffyBee; and it reminded me of the opening statement.  During the closing statement JB said something like--the defense doesn't have to prove anything.  ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 21, 2013, 05:02:08 PM
Vigilante and wannabecop are made up State words Lets use real words connected with state of mind "nolimitnigga" shows a lot about attitude. A few minutes reading Martins tweets show everything I needed to know about his state of mind when he ambushed Z. Then listen to deedee that gives a timeline. How hard to imagine her goading the whole thing on? She felt "guilt" because she is the one that escalated this whole thing. In her depo she called Martin a "mammas boy".  Easy to get to she told Martin "Get him"  All this is whyafter hearing her boyfriend get slugged and then screaming  "get off" she did NOTHING.

I will be making extra popcorn for the day she gets called, gonna be a hoot!


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: islandmonkey on June 21, 2013, 07:42:52 PM
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/317376/568/Judge-in-George-Zimmerman-case-to-rule-in-writing-on-voice-expert-testimony

Opening statements begin Monday
3:02 PM, Jun 21, 2013

 ::snipping3::
Nelson also ruled that in opening statements prosecutors can say that Zimmerman "profiled" Martin, but they may not say the Miami teen was "racially profiled" by the neighborhood watch volunteer.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said that the words "racial profiling" could "infect the jury with a racial component."

She said the state can say that Zimmerman "confronted" Martin because that is the basis for their case. The terms "vigilante" and "wanna-be cop" will also be allowed.

Nelson told the lawyers opening statements are not evidence anyway, and if they fail to prove what they said they could in those statements, the defense is free to tell the jury that.
::MonkeyNoNo::


This is such bullchit.....can O'Mara say NOLIMITNIGGA had a history of fighting and confronted George then beat the chit out of him as evidenced by his broken nose and back of his head, covered in blood? Can they say he has a history of behavioral problems at school, can he say he was on drugs (and that is factual)?

The very fact she is still considering the testimony of the audio whatever you want to call him, I refuse expert just as I thought the testimony of magical thinking in Slore's trial was BS. It's like she is setting this case up for appeal if he is convicted. What about O'Mara needing more time since the state failed to turn over everything on the phone and lied in open court, on the record about it....I'd post his text from his phone, those show he really was a wanna b thug, oh hell IMO he was a thug. Not that he deserved to die, but I can see him taking no shit from some white-hispanic dude because he didn't see enough blood when he previously fought someone, was she itching to show how tough he was and GZ felt threatened for his life, and TM sees the gun, so at that point it's a split second decision , am I going to let him kill me or shoot him. I echo what someone else stated, shoot to kill (I got that from the cop that taught me how to shoot, aim for the widest area of the perp which I would have less than zero problem doing if my family were threatened and I sure as hell wouldn't want to rely on spray if I am in a life/death decision). I wonder wth TM wanted a gun so bad...it would be illegal for him to buy one to begin with but can't say all that without the professional agitators , whose very job and happens to pay them extremely well under the guise of justice...everything about this case is off the rails and I mentioned my worry about riots, protest if he's not convicted *seeing LA riots - Rodney King type multiplied by 100*, even many of the potential jurors felt that way....so it's not irrational to think it can/will happen if they don't serve the justice the professional agitators feel is warranted. I dread this case, the verdict and the aftermath with good reason.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: islandmonkey on June 21, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Another thing I don't understand wrt this Judge and her decisions or difficulty in making what appears to be a simple decision and is fact based:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-911-screams-20130621,0,2801507.story

 ::snipping3::
During the session Friday morning, West got into an argument with the judge about two statements by Zimmerman that defense attorneys want witnesses to tell jurors about.

One would come from one of the first people on the scene the night of the shooting. That person told attorneys he heard Zimmerman say that he had to shoot Trayvon because the teenager was beating him up.

The other would come from a Sanford police officer who quickly got to the scene. He told attorneys that Zimmerman said he had been calling for help but that no one would help him. The judge put off hearing argument about that until next week.

 ::snipping3::

Are these not true facts of the case? Same goes for his thug wanna be/already there lifestyle choices, why can't they talk about his quest for a gun, weed, fighting and other issues such as school suspensions which IMO play into the mindset of TM, he's been sent away to live with his dad;s brother Stephen IIRC and was on a slippery slope and his friends texting him mention this to him, does that not go to state of mind and as Nelson stated this:

Nelson told the lawyers opening statements are not evidence anyway, and if they fail to prove what they said they could in those statements, the defense is free to tell the jury that.


so why isn't this relevant to TM too and some ARE indeed facts. I guess I missed something because it's damn absurd IMO to leave out relevant info, allow the state to not turn over damning photos etc., from the defense until the very last minute.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 01:24:46 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/few-express-interest-attending-george-zimmerman-mu/nYRnF/

Posted: 4:36 p.m. Friday, June 21, 2013
Few express interest in attending George Zimmerman murder trial

SANFORD, Fla. —
While the case against George Zimmerman has captivated the country, it seems as if local interest in the case could be waning.

On Friday, the public got a shot at tickets that would let them sit in the courtroom Monday for opening statements, and only a small group of people took advantage of the opportunity.
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Some of those who stopped by to sign up for a ticket had already had an inside look at what to expect Monday.

An Oviedo man who didn't want to be identified said he was juror I33 and that he made it into the final 40-person Zimmerman trial pool Thursday. He wasn't one of the six jurors and four alternates selected for the trial.

"It started to get pretty interesting," he said.
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From the "Jury" area at SM:  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14277.0

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I-33: Older white man, who said "the more I heard, the less I wanted to hear." Heard there was a 911 call involved in the case, and "some controversy as to who was doing the screaming" heard in it.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 01:32:49 AM
Video at the link

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sharpton-martin-attorney-question-zimmerman-jury-selection-can-mostly-white-panel-give-equal-justice/

Sharpton, Martin Attorney Question Zimmerman Jury Selection: Can Mostly-White Panel Give ‘Equal Justice?’
9:09 pm, June 20th, 2013

Following jury selection in the George Zimmerman murder trial, which features almost all white jurors for a racially-charged case, MSNBC host Al Sharpton asked Benjamin Crump, the attorney of Trayvon Martin’s family, whether the trial would be fair.

“We’ve said all along that this is a case about equal justice,” Crump said. “Equal justice under the law isn’t a black value, it’s not a white value, it’s an American value. With the makeup of this jury—five white women and one Hispanic—the question is can every American get equal justice no matter who sits on your jury panel?”

Crump added that the Martin family was “putting their faith in the justice system and they pray that it doesn’t fail them.”

Sharpton drew Crump’s attention to Juror B-37, who described the protests in Sanford as “riots” and had a concealed weapons permit.

“I was down there and helped organize some of the protests asking for a trial,” Sharpton said. “I never saw rioting and never heard of rioting when I was there.”

“That’s what we’ve been saying all along,” Crump replied. “Everybody who protested on behalf of Trayvon Martin was very peaceful. All his parents have ever asked for is peaceful justice.”

“The question I really have, Reverend Sharpton: once the jury bases their verdict on the evidence—and the evidence is overwhelming—and they come back with a just verdict holding George Zimmerman guilty of killing Trayvon Martin, will the other guys act right?” Crump asked. “That’s the question we don’t know. We know how everybody who supported Trayvon Martin has acted thus far, and they’ve been very peaceful.”
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 01:35:52 AM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-trial-to-rearrange-daytime-20130621,0,3627724.post

George Zimmerman trial to rearrange daytime lineup
By Hal BoedekerStaff writer
3:14 p.m. EDT, June 21, 2013

Just as the Casey Anthony trial did two summers ago, the George Zimmerman trial will prompt major changes to local daytime television.

Opening statements are to start at 9 a.m. Monday. Viewers will see live, wall-to-wall coverage that day on WESH-Channel 2, WKMG-Channel 6, WFTV-Channel 9 and WOFL-Channel 35. Cable channel Central Florida News 13 will continue the extensive coverage that began with jury selection. (On the national front, HLN says it will cover the opening statements live Monday.)

Here's a look at each broadcast station's plan:
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 02:15:46 AM
http://gzlegalcase.com/

State's 17th Redacted Supplemental Discovery
on 06 June 2013.

The following document was filed with the Court:

STATE'S 17th REDACTED SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY: Pleading and Exhibits
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/states_17_discovery_redacted_exhibits_redacted.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 02:18:04 AM
http://gzlegalcase.com/

DEFENDANT'S SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO STATE'S MOTION IN LIMINE REGARDING SELF-SERVING HEARSAY STATEMENTS OF DEFENDANT
on 21 June 2013.

The following document has been filed with the Court:

DEFENDANT'S SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO STATE'S MOTION IN LIMINE REGARDING SELF-SERVING HEARSAY STATEMENTS OF DEFENDANT
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/re_self-serving_statements.pdf
 


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 02:24:09 AM
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-22/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-photos-20130522_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-gun-Zimmerman

Defense attorneys release scores of photos, preparing for George Zimmerman trial
May 22, 2013

Defense attorneys have released scores of new photos in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case, including those of clothes he and Trayvon Martin wore the night they got into a fight and Zimmerman killed the teenager.

The photos were taken by Zimmerman's defense team Aug. 8 at a state crime lab and show pieces of evidence after they had been analyzed, including the hoodie with a bullet hole in it that Trayvon wore.

Other crime lab photos include the gun Zimmerman used, Trayvon's cell phone plus the Skittles and soft drink Trayvon had just bought.

There are also two new photos of Zimmerman in a cap and gown at a graduation ceremony at Seminole State College. School records show that although he went through the ceremony, he did not graduate because he failed an astronomy class in the fall of 2011.

The photos are part of a set of evidence that defense attorneys released late Tuesday to prosecutors, notifying them that they may use them at Zimmerman's trial, which is scheduled to begin June 10 in Sanford.

The 29-year-olf former Neighborhood Watch volunteer killed Trayvon, an unarmed black 17-year-old, Feb. 26, 2012, after calling Sanford police and describing the teenager as suspicious.

Zimmerman says he acted in self-defense.

In the evidence packet there also were scores of other photos, many of them released last year by prosecutors. Those include now-iconic photos of Zimmerman with a bloody nose and blood on the back of his head.

Some appear to support Zimmerman's claim of self-defense. For example, photos taken at the Sanford police station the night of the shooting show a cut across the bridge of his nose and several areas of redness – perhaps abrasions - on the back and sides of his head.

One photo of the right side of his head shows six areas of discoloration.

But police close-ups of Zimmerman's hands show no evidence of cuts or scrapes, something you might expect on someone who had just been in a fight.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: flamom on June 22, 2013, 08:13:04 AM
It was surprising to see the judge allow prejudicial terms used to describe the defendant, terms that I have been using in my head.
NOT FAIR in court....Court is a place for the prosecution to present facts, not pejoratives    ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
Audio at the link

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-experts-ruling-20130622,0,7655747.story

Judge bars audio experts from George Zimmerman trial who say screams were not Zimmerman
10:13 a.m. EDT, June 22, 2013

In a major victory for murder suspect George Zimmerman, a judge today ruled that prosecutors may not put on the witness stand two state audio experts who say the voice heard screaming in the background of a 911 call was someone other than Zimmerman.

The judge had heard three days of testimony about the science used by the state's experts and ruled that it failed to meet Florida's legal standard.

One of the experts, Alan R. Reich, had concluded the voice he identified as Trayvon is heard yelling "I'm begging you" and "stop." The other, Tom Owen, says he ruled Zimmerman out as the screamer with biometric software.

Both are now banned.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 11:10:32 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/22/3464998/judge-excludes-state-audio-experts.html

Posted on Saturday, 06.22.13
Judge excludes state audio experts in George Zimmerman trial
By DAVID OVALLE

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In the ruling released Saturday, Seminole Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson said prosecutors can still play the 911 tape and other recordings at trial, and lawyers can introduce witnesses who are familiar with the voices of Trayvon or Zimmerman to testify about the identity of the person or persons screaming.

In her 12-page order, sent via e-mail to the lawyers in the case, Nelson found that the methods the two men used to analyze the audio were not generally accepted in the scientific community.

“There is no evidence to establish that their scientific techniques have been tested and found reliable,” she wrote.

She singled out Reich, who claimed he heard Trayvon saying specific phrases, including “I’m begging you.” Nelson said his report to the prosecution, which differed from one given earlier to a newspaper, “would confuse issues” and “mislead the jury.”

The judge’s decision on the audio experts was highly anticipated.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: sunshine12 on June 22, 2013, 12:04:03 PM
thank god she made the right decision on the audio recording analysis...

i just don't see a conviction happening in this case.  if anything maybe a hung jury.  i believe the defense got the jury they wanted and i trust their jury consultant


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
http://gzlegalcase.com/

ORDER EXCLUDING THE OPINION TESTIMONY OF MR. OWEN AND DR. REICH
on 22 June 2013.

The following order has been filed by the Court:

ORDER EXCLUDING THE OPINION TESTIMONY OF MR. OWEN AND DR. REICH
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/order_excluding.pdf


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: iluvmua on June 22, 2013, 07:04:41 PM
I would have to vote 'Not Guilty', The State just does not have the evidence it needs for a conviction, plus all the evidence thus far backs up GZ's claims.

Does anyone know if the trial will be put up on Youtube in pieces like the Jodi Arias case was.



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: Red on June 22, 2013, 08:36:36 PM
thank god she made the right decision on the audio recording analysis...

i just don't see a conviction happening in this case.  if anything maybe a hung jury.  i believe the defense got the jury they wanted and i trust their jury consultant

Judge Debra S. Nelson Rules Two Prosecution Audio Experts Witnesses Will NOT Be Allowed to Testify in George Zimmerman Murder Trial

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2013/06/22/judge-debra-s-nelson-rules-two-prosecution-audio-experts-witnesses-will-not-be-allowed-to-testify-in-george-zimmerman-murder-trial/

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Prosecution audio expert witnesses denied …

Judge Debra S. Nelson has ruled that two prosecution audio experts will not be allowed to testify in the George Zimmerman second degree murder trial. Zimmerman is charged with the murder of 17 year old Trayvon Martin. This is a major blow to the prosecution’s case against Zimmerman. Prosecutors had looked for expert witnesses to identify the screams in the 911 tape, the night that Trayvon Martin was shot by Zimmerman, was that of Martin. As reported at the Miami Herald, the testimony of Tom Owen and Alan Reich, both of whom analyzed a 911 call by a neighbor that captured the sounds of the brawl, was key for the state because it could have painted Zimmerman as the aggressor. However, the defense had sought to prevent the prosecution experts from testifying, arguing that the science used to make such audio identifications was not reliable. In the end, the 911 tape will be allowed to be played at trial as well as the prosecution will be allowed to present any witnesses familiar with Martin’s voice to testify, but the audio experts are out. Previously, an FBI speech scientist, Dr. Hirotake Nakasone, a senior audio engineer, testified that current technology cannot categorically determine whether a voice heard on a 911 tape screaming for help moments before Trayvon Martin was killed was that of Martin or George Zimmerman, the man accused of murdering him.

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It would seem that this was the only correct decision the judge could make. It is certainly a blow to the prosecution.

The case is bizarre, it basically has two sides, a legal one that is taking place in the court room, and the emotional, race based one that takes place outside the court house and in the media.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
I would have to vote 'Not Guilty', The State just does not have the evidence it needs for a conviction, plus all the evidence thus far backs up GZ's claims.

Does anyone know if the trial will be put up on Youtube in pieces like the Jodi Arias case was.


bbm  I don't know if videos will be put up on YouTube when the trial continues on Monday; however, there are videos of Trial Days 1, 2, etc.  There are videos of the jury selection days--Round 1 and Round 2.  Also, videos of the Frye hearings are posted. The videos were posted by CrimeTimeVids.  I googled  "George Zimmerman Murder Trial + YouTube."  Hope this helps in some way and the videos are uploaded throughout the trial. 



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 22, 2013, 09:20:06 PM
Two-page article

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-attorneys-20130622,0,4151557.story

Zimmerman trial lawyers have very different styles
2:35 p.m. EDT, June 22, 2013

SANFORD — They have very different styles: Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda is fiery, dramatic and aggressive. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara is calm, laid-back and thoughtful.

On Monday, they will go head-to-head, de la Rionda trying to convict George Zimmerman of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, O'Mara trying to win his acquittal.

For each, it is the biggest case of his career.

De la Rionda has said little to reporters, but during hearings and jury selection, he has made clear his passion.

"We are to seek justice, to present evidence of wrongdoing," he told 40 prospective jurors Wednesday.

O'Mara has been far more visible, vocal and in recent months more confident. He has begun to predict victory.

"This case will fall," he said Thursday, "on the fact that the state cannot convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt with their evidence that a crime was committed by my client."

The two attorneys were collegial during the two weeks of jury selection, but earlier, their criticism of each other turned bitter.

De la Rionda has repeatedly accused O'Mara of grandstanding and playing to the media. O'Mara has accused the prosecutor of failing to turn over key information in the case, including that the state's most important witness lied under oath.

De la Rionda
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 22, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-5-things-to-know-about-zimmerman-trial-fla360,0,6739057.story
5 things to know about OSPhoto's Zimmerman courtroom photography
Orlando Sentinel photographers on the front row of courtroom, history

June 22, 2013



Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 23, 2013, 11:46:23 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/zimmerman-jurors-begin-life-sequestration-19466942#.UccU3b4o7IU

Zimmerman Jurors Begin Life in Sequestration
SANFORD, Fla. June 23, 2013 (AP)

The six jurors and four alternates who will hear opening statements Monday in George Zimmerman's murder trial are beginning their time together in a sequestered bubble: They won't return to their homes for weeks, contact with family and friends will be limited, and Internet and phone usage is restricted.

Court officials are keeping mum about the details of the jury sequestration, which began this weekend. But if past cases are any example, the Zimmerman jurors won't be able to tweet or blog. They'll read only newspapers that have been censored of anything dealing with the case. They will do almost everything together as a group. In their hotel rooms, TV news channels will be inaccessible and landline telephones likely will be removed. Deputies will keep the jurors' cellphones and give them back once a day so they can call loved ones and friends.
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The Seminole County's Clerk of Courts has budgeted $150 per person per day to cover room, board and entertainment for the length of the trial, said Maryanne Morse, the clerk. Given that it could last from two weeks to a month, the total cost of sequestration could range from $21,000 to $45,000. That doesn't include the cost of keeping deputies assigned to the group for security.

Court spokeswoman Michelle Kennedy wouldn't comment on the details or logistics of sequestration, or even how jurors will be spend the Fourth of July.

"Their comfort is going to be our top priority," Kennedy said.
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 23, 2013, 12:14:59 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/zimmerman-jury-begins-sequestration-opening/nYRnj/

Posted: 11:13 a.m. Sunday, June 23, 2013
Zimmerman jury begins sequestration day before opening statements

SANFORD, Fla. —
Jurors in the George Zimmerman trial are expected to begin their sequestration at an undisclosed location on Sunday, less than 24 hours before the start of opening statements.
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Leading up to the shooting, Zimmerman called 911 to report a suspicious man walking through the neighborhood.

“This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something,” Zimmerman told the dispatcher.

Zimmerman told police the teenager stared him down then ran.

“Are you following him?" asked the 911 dispatcher.

“Yeah,” said Zimmerman.

“OK, we don’t need you to do that,” the dispatcher responded.

“OK,” Zimmerman said.

Zimmerman said Martin then ambushed him, punched him in the nose, pinned him to the ground and pounded his head on the sidewalk.

Neighbors heard fighting and called 911. In the background of one of those calls, someone can be heard screaming, "Help, help, help."

That night, Zimmerman said he yelled for help, but when no one came, he fired in self-defense, killing Martin.

Following the shooting, Martin's father first told police it was not his son calling for help.

Channel 9’s first full report on the case focused on Zimmerman, who wasn’t arrested right way.

Police said evidence supported self-defense but state attorney Norm Wolfinger would decide on charges.

Martin's family's lawyers got the national media involved and pushed for an arrest.  Martin’s father then said it was his son who was pleading for help.

“We just don't understand why the Sanford Police Department is sitting on their hands on this,” said Martin’s father, Tracy Martin.

In the months following the shooting, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton came to Sanford, accusing police of racism, and protesters demanded an arrest.

Wolfinger and Sanford’s police chief at the time, Bill Lee, stepped aside and the governor appointed Jacksonville state attorney Angela Corey, who charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder and accused him of stalking the teenager.


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: MuffyBee on June 23, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
http://www.local10.com/news/prosecution-wants-two-books-from-george-zimmerman/-/1717324/20683394/-/5ysuui/-/index.html
Prosecution wants two books from George Zimmerman
June 23, 2013

SANFORD, Fla. -
Prosecutors requested two books and some e-mails from George Zimmerman Saturday.
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Prosecutors have to prove motive. They have records of Zimmerman's curriculum and grades while he was a criminal justice student at Seminole State College of Florida . He did not graduate.
These are the books prosecutors want:

-- Criminal Law and Procedures for the Paralegal: A Systems Approach, 3rd Edition Delmar Learning

-- Criminal Justice in Action, 4th Edition (Gaines & Miller).
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Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: jamcakes on June 23, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
QUESTION:  What network will be covering the trial, live?


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: alagary on June 23, 2013, 10:12:01 PM
QUESTION:  What network will be covering the trial, live?
At least HLN maybe Fox . Will be a lot of places online, this one has good volume;
http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

There will be many links in the morning


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: grace-land on June 23, 2013, 11:28:47 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/23/3466873/naacp-holds-sanford-town-hall.html

Posted on Sunday, 06.23.13
NAACP holds Sanford town hall at start of George Zimmerman trial

SANFORD --  Hours after lawyers will give opening statements on Monday in one of the biggest trials in Sanford’s history, community leaders will host a town hall meeting at a church in the city’s historically black neighborhood to discuss the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a tragedy that has hung heavily over the city for more than a year.

The meeting is also about encouraging the community to act peacefully and responsibly throughout the court process
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“This is basically to update the community about what has happened, from the incident to the jury selection. We are here to explain the legal process so people have a better understanding of how this is going to happen,” said Turner Clayton, Jr., president of the Seminole County chapter of the NAACP. “We want to give people an opportunity to talk about what happened, to voice any concerns, but also we are continuing to advocate the idea of non-violence throughout this whole process.’’
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TRUSTED EYES & EARS

As part of an effort to help the city move forward, four seats in the courtroom have been set aside for a group of pastors to attend the trial. Their job: bring back to their neighborhoods and churches accurate accounts of the court proceedings. Some of those pastors, along with representatives from the NAACP, Urban League and Action Now Network, will attend Monday’s meeting to share their observations.

Martin family attorneys Ben Crump and Natalie Jackson will also attend.

“We will be there to answer any questions legally and to tell the community that we want peaceful justice,” Crump said.

The town hall will be held at Allen Chapel African Methodist Episcopal Church. Clayton said he expects some discussion of Stand Your Ground and gun control, but the main focus is on the trial.

“We know the community is going to be watching the case very closely, whether they are in the courtroom or watching on television,’’ Clayton said. “We planned this meeting for the beginning of the trial so everybody would have a basic understanding when it starts.”


Title: Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
Post by: klaasend on June 24, 2013, 08:59:06 AM
Let's move to the new thread for the trial