Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #49

[Hiding Monkey]

I heard earlier tonight (possibly on NG) that George told someone that he was tired of all the lies.  Anyone else hear this?

[Kat_Gram]

I am going to express an unpopular opionin, then slink away to watch NG.
Doesn't the number of volunteers seems excessive ?
I am thinking that we are sure the kiddo is passed.
Wouldn't the money / resources / efforts be better spent on the newly missing ?
An effort where an alive recovery might be a result ?
Or better yet, spend he money on laive children who are in need ?
...
The family for whatever reasons, do not want a recovery of a dead body as if there is one, KC stays in jail longer. I am beginning to not care if they find Caylee at all. At this point, months into this, she is in heaven, regardless where her mortal reamins are. 

[always 1]

Well, this is slightly changing the topic, but I wondered why Tony L went off on a tirade about Clint being such a mooch, when, as far as I can tell, Casey was mooching, too.

but remember casey was bringing him groceries, cooking, cleaning, and doing laundry for him.. so he probably didnt see her as a mooch.

Even though all of the stuff she brought over was actually paid for by Amy, since he didn't know that at the time, I can see why he didn't consider her a mooch.   She was motivated and trying to insinuate herself further into his life and home.

But he was like so many guys, he didn't want the whole package, and probably the more she did, housekeeping, food, etc, the more he backed away.  He didn't want a wife, he didn't want a Momma, he didn't want a family!!!

I hear he really really liked her!!!!

He probably did but he was young, a lot of guys don't want to raise another mans baby no matter now adorable she is.

[BTgirl]

BTgirl, did you hear Dana call you out. He gave you a hug on the radio! 

Oh man! I missed it cause I got a phone call! Darn!

[numbersgirl]

Say guys, what position did GA hold in Ohio with LE?  Anyone know?

He was a Deputy with Trumbull County Sheriff's Department.   

[mytime]

Well, this is slightly changing the topic, but I wondered why Tony L went off on a tirade about Clint being such a mooch, when, as far as I can tell, Casey was mooching, too.

but remember casey was bringing him groceries, cooking, cleaning, and doing laundry for him.. so he probably didnt see her as a mooch.

Even though all of the stuff she brought over was actually paid for by Amy, since he didn't know that at the time, I can see why he didn't consider her a mooch.   She was motivated and trying to insinuate herself further into his life and home.

But he was like so many guys, he didn't want the whole package, and probably the more she did, housekeeping, food, etc, the more he backed away.  He didn't want a wife, he didn't want a Momma, he didn't want a family!!!

I hear he really really liked her!!!!

He probably did but he was young, a lot of guys don't want to raise another mans baby no matter now adorable she is.

Yeah but he knew before he even met here.  They met on facebook(? I think) and had already made an emotional connection.  He believed that had so much in common.  She agreed with everything he said!

[marymary]

Say guys, what position did GA hold in Ohio with LE?  Anyone know?

I remember either George or his brother Rick saying he was a Homicide Investigator.

  Thanks, marymary!

I don't think he was, from what i read!  Sorry mm!!

But George had an ID it's in the house somewhere, maybe next to Casey's Universal ID.  j/k  But do you really think George would lie. 

[Hiding Monkey]

I am going to express an unpopular opionin, then slink away to watch NG.
Doesn't the number of volunteers seems excessive ?
I am thinking that we are sure the kiddo is passed.
Wouldn't the money / resources / efforts be better spent on the newly missing ?
An effort where an alive recovery might be a result ?
Or better yet, spend he money on laive children who are in need ?
...
The family for whatever reasons, do not want a recovery of a dead body as if there is one, KC stays in jail longer. I am beginning to not care if they find Caylee at all. At this point, months into this, she is in heaven, regardless where her mortal reamins are. 

  I think it's a combined search for Jennifer Kesse also.  I think a recovery would help the families so I'm all for it.  I do agree that effort for newly missing, alive recovery and children are all important too.  With us all aware of these needs we should all be reaching out to help anywhere we can.

[Colt45cal]

who saw George's mega dildonic logic in action tonight?

he needs to Z I P IT!

ZIPPPPPPPP IT.

On this...we agree!  He get's worse with each passing day.     I think CA has her hand up his.......and is making his lips move. She's a very accomplished ventriquest.

Colt do you still talk to GA?  Is your opinion of him the same?  Just curious!

Yes, it has changed. But like I posted earlier....I still stand behind my earlier posts. I do this not because of ego, or the refusal to admit that I was wrong. (I've been wrong plenty of times!). I still feel George was being honest with me at the time. Now...he's not being honest to himself, especially in light of the growing case against his daughter.

I think George knows better. It's my opinion, he's just playing along with CA. More likely than not, everything's in CA's name. If he cuts out now (and he should), he would be left with very little. This make no difference....he needs to "Man up", and do what's right. He's a lost sole. Caylee was his world. Now...he has nothing. 

Thank you for answering me.  For whatever reason, I am never on when you are! LOL  I have went back and read some of your posts though.  Yes, I totally agree with you about him having nothing.  But neither does she.  He was one that wasted so much money on internet gambling.  I seriously wonder if he suffers from "abused husband" syndrome. 

This is where we dsagree. CA does have something. She has the camera on her, and I think she likes it. She plays it like a fine fiddle. She think this will be her meal ticket.

[alleycat86]

I hear he really really liked her!!!!

He probably did but he was young, a lot of guys don't want to raise another mans baby no matter now adorable she is.

yeah i agree. really liking her doesnt equal ready to settle down with her and her baby

[always 1]

Well, this is slightly changing the topic, but I wondered why Tony L went off on a tirade about Clint being such a mooch, when, as far as I can tell, Casey was mooching, too.

but remember casey was bringing him groceries, cooking, cleaning, and doing laundry for him.. so he probably didnt see her as a mooch.

Even though all of the stuff she brought over was actually paid for by Amy, since he didn't know that at the time, I can see why he didn't consider her a mooch.   She was motivated and trying to insinuate herself further into his life and home.

But he was like so many guys, he didn't want the whole package, and probably the more she did, housekeeping, food, etc, the more he backed away.  He didn't want a wife, he didn't want a Momma, he didn't want a family!!!

I hear he really really liked her!!!!

He probably did but he was young, a lot of guys don't want to raise another mans baby no matter now adorable she is.

Yeah but he knew before he even met here.  They met on facebook(? I think) and had already made an emotional connection.  He believed that had so much in common.  She agreed with everything he said!

I don't know, as Dolce always says, "BOYS"!!!!

[mytime]

I am going to express an unpopular opionin, then slink away to watch NG.
Doesn't the number of volunteers seems excessive ?
I am thinking that we are sure the kiddo is passed.
Wouldn't the money / resources / efforts be better spent on the newly missing ?
An effort where an alive recovery might be a result ?
Or better yet, spend he money on laive children who are in need ?
...
The family for whatever reasons, do not want a recovery of a dead body as if there is one, KC stays in jail longer. I am beginning to not care if they find Caylee at all. At this point, months into this, she is in heaven, regardless where her mortal reamins are. 

I have felt this way too.  But if LE can find more evidence, then I hope she is found.  Also, when I thought about any of my family members laying somewhere unkown, It made me want her found even more.

[marymary]

I am going to express an unpopular opionin, then slink away to watch NG.
Doesn't the number of volunteers seems excessive ?
I am thinking that we are sure the kiddo is passed.
Wouldn't the money / resources / efforts be better spent on the newly missing ?
An effort where an alive recovery might be a result ?
Or better yet, spend he money on laive children who are in need ?
...
The family for whatever reasons, do not want a recovery of a dead body as if there is one, KC stays in jail longer. I am beginning to not care if they find Caylee at all. At this point, months into this, she is in heaven, regardless where her mortal reamins are. 

I think it may be a matter of principle to most...and justice for Caylee who's own family refuses to help. 

[TOY]

Well, I tried to bring a post from the old cage but couldn't.  It was written in jest but still sparked some "what ifs" in my mind.

It started with someone's comment about George saying it wasn't his granddaughter in the trunk.  Then in jest someone mentioned the Anthony's own body farm.

Here are my questions:  If Casey really did have a miscarriage, would there be a record of it or could nurse-mom Cindy take care of it at home?  If there was a miscarriage (say at home), are there any restrictions or guidelines for disposal?  At what age before birth can sex be determined?

As picky as George is about his yard, the "dent" has always seemed strange to me.  He seems like the sort who would have filled in a "dent" so that the yard would look manicured.

If Casey did miscarry, if it was a boy, if there are no laws restricting disposal, is it possible?  Wouldn't the DNA from the fluids be quite similar to Caylee's?

At this point, almost anything is possible and sometimes "truth is stranger than fiction."

Another thing I found hard to reconcile was the report of Caylee being so distraught that she missed about an hour and a half of the party.  This does not sound like the party girl we've heard about.  Also, having an emotional "outburst" really doesn't sound like the cool, calm, and collected Casey. 

Off the wall?  Oh yes, but I was bored with housework...lol

This post is 99% "no way" with just a bit of "I wonder" thrown in. However, I wouldn't place any bets on it...lol

You're not alone- I too have reached FAR and WIDE in my brain for some kind of explanation- and have thought about the possibility of a miscarriage- possibly stored in a freezer until it could be decided by the family what to do with the fetus, possibly it happening in the yard, then they transported in the trunk. etc etc etc... but I know in my heart they are absurdities and think the only reason I speculate about things like that is because I can't deal with the horrific outcome that the evidence implies. I love my son more than anything in this whole world- and cherish him and I will never be able to understand why some parents purposefully endanger, neglect and kill their children.

P.S. the answer to your question about determining sex of a child- I know that through ultrasound it is usually between 16-20 weeks but have heard as early as 12 weeks w/sophisticated equipment- not sure of what it would be if actually viewing the baby with the naked eye

Kerry Jean, I'm just glad you aren't recommending a padded cell for me...lol

I think you may be right about my brain trying to come up with alternate endings to this story.  Every bit of logic I've ever "hoped" to have is telling me Caylee is deceased but my heart absolutely does not want to accept that at all.  I'm not in denial in the same way George and Cindy are but I still am hoping even though I know it's futile.  I know it but I don't want to believe it if that makes sense.  Thanks for answering.

IF she miscarried and they were able to extract DNA from the remains, they should have been able to determine gender of the fetus.  Sadly, I've miscarried several times and have had genetic testing done after each D&C and the lab was able to determine the gender of each baby.  From my understanding in a lab, gender can be determined with blood and tissue samples in VERY early pregnancy.  After 10 weeks gestation, you can order a kit offline that can tell you the gender with 82% accuracy.

If the baby was a boy, they would be able to tell from DNA that he was Caylee's brother.

A lot of miscarriages happen at home and most women have no need to see a doctor for it unless there are other complications or unless you're seeing a specialist for fertility treatments.  Also, if it was an early loss, there wouldn't have really been any remains to bury.

I don't feel that this theory is plausible, but I agree with you.  I know what the truth is, but it's so hard to believe it.

I think that my struggle with fertility treatments and multiple losses is what makes me so mad about this whole situation.  There are many people in this world (myself included) who would anything to have a healthy, beautiful child like Caylee.  It breaks my heart to think that KC possibly "disposed" of Caylee because she was an inconvience.

Jenni, I'm so sorry for your losses.  I can only imagine the hurt after the excitement of finding out you were pregnant. We've never had children primarily because we married later in life so I don't know very much about gestation. I agree with you though...and using her own words...giving the gift of Caylee to Casey was a "waste, huge waste."

[mytime]

who saw George's mega dildonic logic in action tonight?

he needs to Z I P IT!

ZIPPPPPPPP IT.

On this...we agree!  He get's worse with each passing day.     I think CA has her hand up his.......and is making his lips move. She's a very accomplished ventriquest.

Colt do you still talk to GA?  Is your opinion of him the same?  Just curious!

Yes, it has changed. But like I posted earlier....I still stand behind my earlier posts. I do this not because of ego, or the refusal to admit that I was wrong. (I've been wrong plenty of times!). I still feel George was being honest with me at the time. Now...he's not being honest to himself, especially in light of the growing case against his daughter.

I think George knows better. It's my opinion, he's just playing along with CA. More likely than not, everything's in CA's name. If he cuts out now (and he should), he would be left with very little. This make no difference....he needs to "Man up", and do what's right. He's a lost sole. Caylee was his world. Now...he has nothing. 

Thank you for answering me.  For whatever reason, I am never on when you are! LOL  I have went back and read some of your posts though.  Yes, I totally agree with you about him having nothing.  But neither does she.  He was one that wasted so much money on internet gambling.  I seriously wonder if he suffers from "abused husband" syndrome. 

This is where we dsagree. CA does have something. She has the camera on her, and I think she likes it. She plays it like a fine fiddle. She think this will be her meal ticket.

Yes, but Florida is a community property state.  They will spil everything 50/50.  He can even go after her retirement.  She was the bread winner in that family.

[always 1]

Did someone post what Casey could buy in the pokey????   I missed it.

[Mary]

When Cindy called the meeting at her house that Annie was talking about
in her tex messages to her friends, at that point had all those friends of Casey's
given statements to LE. I'm wondering if Cindy can be charged with tampering
with witnesses. Also the only person that says that Casey went to Jessie's for
a shower was themselves, maybe Jessie helped her with something else. I found
his father very weird and has far to much to say for a guy just trying to protect
his son who is not a young teenie bopper and should be able to speak for himself.
Very early, Mr Grund said him and Casey use to have long talks at his house. I
wonder what she talked to him about.  Cindy I would bet!

[txlisa]

who saw George's mega dildonic logic in action tonight?

he needs to Z I P IT!

ZIPPPPPPPP IT.

On this...we agree!  He get's worse with each passing day.     I think CA has her hand up his.......and is making his lips move. She's a very accomplished ventriquest.

Colt I agree...but judging by the distance between them on that couch this morning...Cindy must have some mighty long arms...

Did you notice how this time it was George who reached out and touched Cindy's thigh? What's up with that?  What is wrong with these people?

if the ice queen's fingers touched my thigh I would instantly go gay... and I mean so gay there's no hope ever of going back.

That evil look of hers scares the crap outta me!  Do you remember the pic of her staring into the camera and pointing that bony finger of hers?   

Lisa

the one with the hammer in her other hand???

Yes!  That one!

Lisa

[mytime]

who saw George's mega dildonic logic in action tonight?

he needs to Z I P IT!

ZIPPPPPPPP IT.

On this...we agree!  He get's worse with each passing day.     I think CA has her hand up his.......and is making his lips move. She's a very accomplished ventriquest.

Colt do you still talk to GA?  Is your opinion of him the same?  Just curious!

Yes, it has changed. But like I posted earlier....I still stand behind my earlier posts. I do this not because of ego, or the refusal to admit that I was wrong. (I've been wrong plenty of times!). I still feel George was being honest with me at the time. Now...he's not being honest to himself, especially in light of the growing case against his daughter.

I think George knows better. It's my opinion, he's just playing along with CA. More likely than not, everything's in CA's name. If he cuts out now (and he should), he would be left with very little. This make no difference....he needs to "Man up", and do what's right. He's a lost sole. Caylee was his world. Now...he has nothing. 

Thank you for answering me.  For whatever reason, I am never on when you are! LOL  I have went back and read some of your posts though.  Yes, I totally agree with you about him having nothing.  But neither does she.  He was one that wasted so much money on internet gambling.  I seriously wonder if he suffers from "abused husband" syndrome. 

This is where we dsagree. CA does have something. She has the camera on her, and I think she likes it. She plays it like a fine fiddle. She think this will be her meal ticket.

Yes, but Florida is a community property state.  They will split everything 50/50.  He can even go after her retirement.  She was the bread winner in that family.

edit  - Also, IMO, she doesn't play it like a fine fiddle but more like a time bomb!!

[Steel Monkey]

who saw George's mega dildonic logic in action tonight?

he needs to Z I P IT!

ZIPPPPPPPP IT.

On this...we agree!  He get's worse with each passing day.     I think CA has her hand up his.......and is making his lips move. She's a very accomplished ventriquest.

Colt - that is quite a turnaround comment coming from you.  Change of position?