Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #7

[always 1]

Ok, maybe Casey came home, she back into the driveway, she went over to the neighbors, borrowed the shovel, George comes out, sees the car backed in, sees her face, sees the shovel, knows he hasnt seen Caylee.  He thinks like a cop, demands to see in the trunk, he opens it, Caylee is there and then the rest of my story.  He makes up something to go with each question that could ever come up.

[kippy]

Quick question, do we know anything about the dates they supposedly went on vacation?  They-meaning cindy and georgie.

[always 1]

I just dont know how much time we have.  Cindy would have to be at work, she didnt know.  Then George had to put the whole story together, what were you wearing that day, what was Caylee wearing.  Etc etc etc.

[ldstlou]

Why would you need to borrow a shovel if George was in on this all along? He would have the key to the shed.

Great point Lalas.

Going back to Monday...Cindy and Caylee go to nursing home. Her Mom is MAD!! and wants them to call police in Casey...she is fed up. Cindy smooths it over...goes home and has a big blow up with Casey...jig is up...and no more stealing!!

Casey is ticked and goes to Tony's house. Cindy trying to relax and goes swimming with Caylee. Casey says that it...I am moving out tomorrow.

If there was a big family blow up...makes sense that George says to Casey...but did you talk to Mom..."Today!!"  They had just had a huge fight!!

Maybe it wasn't normal to walk out with backpacks...maybe they did that day because Casey is planning on staying with a friend to punish her mom. She just got busted with stealing from grandparents...would you want to go back home Monday night after the big blow up Sunday?

[always 1]

You know I dated a homicide dectective for a long time.  They are the most untrusting, parinoid people in the world.  We would go to a restaurant, the waiter would seat us, then I would have to trade places with him, he couldnt sit with his back to the door, ever..... 

[ldstlou]

Quick question, do we know anything about the dates they supposedly went on vacation?  They-meaning cindy and georgie.

this part confuses me...I don't remember George and Cindy going on vacation...thought Cindy said that Casey told her...that Casey and Caylee were going on a 2 week vacation. Do I have that wrong?

[ldstlou]

You know I dated a homicide dectective for a long time.  They are the most untrusting, parinoid people in the world.  We would go to a restaurant, the waiter would seat us, then I would have to trade places with him, he couldnt sit with his back to the door, ever..... 

lol...did he make you take the first bite of his food too??!! Just kidding you!!

[always 1]

No, but that is funny....

[kippy]

Quick question, do we know anything about the dates they supposedly went on vacation?  They-meaning cindy and georgie.

this part confuses me...I don't remember George and Cindy going on vacation...thought Cindy said that Casey told her...that Casey and Caylee were going on a 2 week vacation. Do I have that wrong?

I don't know, it confuses me too.  I thought very early on Cindy said her and George went on vacation for a week.  Maybe I'm messed up.

[always 1]

Klaasend, you're very good with timelines,  is there enough time for that to have happend???

[kippy]

For all we know the 15th was the last Caylee was seen.  It was know they had a huge fight on that date and, as you said, why would she even want to go back the next day?  George is,once again, the only person who claims to have seen Caylee after the 15th.

[ldstlou]

ok...thats it!!! WHERE IS KLAAS!!!  lol
Did you leave us to play games again??!! or is it dinner time in Sunny CA?

3 things I would like your thoughts on Klaas.

1) vacation...did anyone take one or is that just what Casey told her Mom she was doing...thus the shock at finding the car in the impound lot.

2) Am I making sense about the Anthony's dog finding Caylee...or digging up any place she had been...if she had been buried for any amout of time in the back yard?

3) Tell me your thoughts on why you feel the 16th was the day something happened to Caylee.

Taking a quick break and then can I share some thoughts assuming the guy posting yesterday is really Cindy's brother?

[klaasend]

Ok, maybe Casey came home, she back into the driveway, she went over to the neighbors, borrowed the shovel, George comes out, sees the car backed in, sees her face, sees the shovel, knows he hasnt seen Caylee.  He thinks like a cop, demands to see in the trunk, he opens it, Caylee is there and then the rest of my story.  He makes up something to go with each question that could ever come up.

There's probably enough time but I think it's simpler than this, IMO.

I think it's as simple as Casey leaving Caylee in the car and Caylee dying.  Casey freaks out and disposed of the body and makes up stories.  Casey has been lying for years, lying comes easy to her.

George and Cindy don't want to allow themselves to believe Caylee is dead.  It's safer for them to believe the kidnapped story.

[ldstlou]

For all we know the 15th was the last Caylee was seen.  It was know they had a huge fight on that date and, as you said, why would she even want to go back the next day?  George is,once again, the only person who claims to have seen Caylee after the 15th.

she HAD to go back and pick up Caylee. We know she didn't take her to Tony's that night.

[always 1]

Why did the trunk smell?  old pizza,  Why did she need a shovel?  to break open the shed to get gas cans.  Why did she need gas cans?  Because the car had a broken gas meter.  Why did she leave the car?  because it ran out of gas.  Why isnt the baby home?  Because she got kidnapped?  Why didnt Casey tell anyone?  Because they would hurt the family.  Who took her?  The babysitter.  Why did the baby sitter take her?  She loved her and wanted her.  See, in a cops mind, every tiny detail has a answer.  He is preparing the report ........

[ldstlou]

Ok, maybe Casey came home, she back into the driveway, she went over to the neighbors, borrowed the shovel, George comes out, sees the car backed in, sees her face, sees the shovel, knows he hasnt seen Caylee.  He thinks like a cop, demands to see in the trunk, he opens it, Caylee is there and then the rest of my story.  He makes up something to go with each question that could ever come up.

There's probably enough time but I think it's simpler than this, IMO.

I think it's as simple as Casey leaving Caylee in the car and Caylee dying.  Casey freaks out and disposed of the body and makes up stories.  Casey has been lying for years, lying comes easy to her.

George and Cindy don't want to allow themselves to believe Caylee is dead.  It's safer for them to believe the kidnapped story.

would have argued before...if not for the uncle's posts yesterday...now it seems much more plausible to me...but taking my cig break for a sec...then I want to run an idea past you.

[kippy]

For all we know the 15th was the last Caylee was seen.  It was know they had a huge fight on that date and, as you said, why would she even want to go back the next day?  George is,once again, the only person who claims to have seen Caylee after the 15th.

she HAD to go back and pick up Caylee. We know she didn't take her to Tony's that night.

Oh crap, thats right.  casey didn't go along to see great-grandpa did she?

[fatcatlurker]

maybe its as simple as Caylee was already in the trunk on the 18th when she borrowed the shovel and broke into the shed to steal the gas cans than backs into the garage to put the gas cans in without the neighbors seeing...

[klaasend]

ok...thats it!!! WHERE IS KLAAS!!!  lol
Did you leave us to play games again??!! or is it dinner time in Sunny CA?

3 things I would like your thoughts on Klaas.

1) vacation...did anyone take one or is that just what Casey told her Mom she was doing...thus the shock at finding the car in the impound lot.  I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE VACATION ISSUE - I DON'T THINK IT'S PROVEN THAT ANYONE TOOK A VACATION

2) Am I making sense about the Anthony's dog finding Caylee...or digging up any place she had been...if she had been buried for any amout of time in the back yard?  YES - I AGREE THAT THE ANTHONY'S DOG SHOULD HAVE BEEN DIGGING A SPOT IF A BODY HAD BEEN BURIED THERE.  I REALLY DON'T THINK A BODY WAS BURIED IN THE BACK YARD.  BODILY FLUIDS FROM A DEAD BODY COULD HAVE BEEN ON THE GROUND AND/OR CAR THOUGH.

3) Tell me your thoughts on why you feel the 16th was the day something happened to Caylee.  WE KNOW FROM THE NURSING HOME RECORDS THAT CAYLEE WAS THERE ON THE 15TH.  IF WE BELIEVE GEORGE, HE SAW CASEY AND CAYLEE AT 12:50PM ON THE 16TH.  NOBODY SEE'S CAYLEE AFTER THE 16TH.  FLURRY OF CALLS ON THE 16TH.  Those are the main reasons.
Taking a quick break and then can I share some thoughts assuming the guy posting yesterday is really Cindy's brother?

My answers in RED above

[fatcatlurker]

and flurry of calls on the 18th to make sure no one was home, maybe.