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WhiskeyGirl
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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I read that Dave's search this weekend is for remains. I wonder how many remains they'll find? All those missing people, and who know how many from human trafficing and refugees.
Refugees = the ones that drown in the water and their bodies and bones wash up on the beaches. I've always thought there was probably quite a few stashed around the island.
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Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
Wreck
- I have no idea
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Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
I am so confused on this pond thing. Which pond? I thought this guy and his dog is searching the dam are which is a very large body of water. Or is it the drainage area that Kyle & Company searched before leaving Aruba?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Quote from: WhiskeyGirl on March 21, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
I read that Dave's search this weekend is for remains. I wonder how many remains they'll find? All those missing people, and who know how many from human trafficing and refugees.
Refugees = the ones that drown in the water and their bodies and bones wash up on the beaches. I've always thought there was probably quite a few stashed around the island.
jmho
So you think Dave is looking for anyones remains not specifically Natalee? Scratching my head.....
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Oh my. I hope this doesn't mean that all hell's gonna break loose once I'm ready to start asking questions about the hinkiness I've been collecting from the Dark Lord himself...
I'm not ready yet, btw. But there is hinkiness.
JMO and only MO.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
And have a cadaver dog looking for a shoe?
Is the shoe dead? Is it giving off the two enzymes that a deceased body does that activates the training of cadaver dogs?
I don't think so but then wouldn't want to be accused of not upholding all these people would I?
I think taking advantage of this family applies to many in this regard including those who are constantly trying to inject themselves into this situation where they so obviously do not belong. Exploiting a parent's concern is not what I consider upholding. But that's just me.
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Quote from: Blue Moon on March 21, 2009, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
I am so confused on this pond thing. Which pond? I thought this guy and his dog is searching the dam are which is a very large body of water. Or is it the drainage area that Kyle & Company searched before leaving Aruba?
The pictures they are showing in the interviews with Golba is the same pond referred to as the Monserat Dam that the Persistence crew scanned before they left Aruba. Any search I believe happened months later, JMO.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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klaas - I just wrote you a quick email!! TIA
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2009, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: Blue Moon on March 21, 2009, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2009, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on March 21, 2009, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on March 21, 2009, 08:20:16 PM
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Would you please response to my post pertaining my theory that CAPS and Gerold Dompig are one.
Thanks
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Well.IIRC Kermit tends to believe Caps is Vernon Vrolijk..But would need to confirm that with Kermit.
Do i believe CapsLockWizard is more then 1 person.Yes!
Dompig is a strong possibilty but,we know how Aruba works..
I agree. His two-fold language skills dictate this is a probability.
I am attempting to comprehend the unwavering support of CAPS. His theories keep changing. His research is flawed. Yet ... his faithful adherences follow him down one dead-end road after another.
When I consider Gerold Dompig's position within the investigation ... I believe that it is possible that some are a little "star" struck. I do not know if "star" is the right word but ... you get my drift.
Thanks for your response
Keepthefaith.
Janet
Janet, I know I am not an expert but I really believe Dompig is a good possibility for Caps. Isn't (or wasn't) Dompig's former "uncle" by marriage? I have had a bad feeling that Deepak is behind a lot of this. But Kermit says that she knows that Caps is a 54? year old man. So just don't know unless Dompig is the sometimes good talker Caps.
Thank you for your response Blue Moon.
I am on a mission to find more backup that implies that Anomino/ CaplockWizard and Gerold Dompig are one.
Janet
I always forget about Gerold Dompig. Any link to the words of his son? I wonder now, how much Michael has let slip that might be related or diversion.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Quote from: Anna on March 21, 2009, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
And have a cadaver dog looking for a shoe?
Is the shoe dead? Is it giving off the two enzymes that a deceased body does that activates the training of cadaver dogs?
I don't think so but then wouldn't want to be accused of not upholding all these people would I?
I think taking advantage of this family applies to many in this regard including those who are constantly trying to inject themselves into this situation where they so obviously do not belong. Exploiting a parent's concern is not what I consider upholding. But that's just me.
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I could not agree more. It is said that Dave is only doing this to be 100% certain she is not in the pond. The ONLY reason that he is doing this is because Caps (and his FOLLOWERS) have created enough hub bub and non-sense to make a desperate father grasp at straws. It is reprehensible. -JMO
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Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
I'm still amazed that so many people think we at SM are all so stupid! ........................Aruba banked on that and look where they are 4 years later.
And so much of the crap that some have tried to sell here is so insulting to ones intelligence. No, we are not stupid and over the years have developed a pretty good Hinky Meter to boot. Collectively, at least some of us have called things correctly about 100 percent of the time.
And I don't mean those who run away when things don't pan out to support their little pet theory or the games they so enjoy playing but in the service of actually finding justice in this tragedy.
It may take us a while but we usually get it right. I have yet to see anything that is otherwise factual.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Quote from: bastibro on March 21, 2009, 08:14:24 PM
Translated version by Google, you could have done that yourself
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.fok.nl%2Ftopic%2F1255051%2F6%2F25&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1
Have any of you taken the time to use this translated version that was requested? It is all there. You might want to try it and see what has been said without jumping on the messengers.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
I think they are searching several ponds and places Wreck
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Quote from: Lifesong on March 21, 2009, 09:33:38 PM
Oh my. I hope this doesn't mean that all hell's gonna break loose once I'm ready to start asking questions about the hinkiness I've been collecting from the Dark Lord himself...
I'm not ready yet, btw. But there is hinkiness.
JMO and only MO.
Do you think they would really be foolish enough to have Natalee's remains "discovered" in a previously searched area? I expect the "discovery," but are Aruban law enforcement really that Keystone Kop-ish? Oh, wait. Never mind. They are.
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Quote from: Sam on March 21, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: bastibro on March 21, 2009, 08:14:24 PM
Translated version by Google, you could have done that yourself
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.fok.nl%2Ftopic%2F1255051%2F6%2F25&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1
Have any of you taken the time to use this translated version that was requested? It is all there. You might want to try it and see what has been said without jumping on the messengers.
Thank you so much Sam!
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Maybe this is just a tourist that bears a striking resemblance to the youngest VDS child.
3/21/2009 Awe Mainta Page 9
Papimentu translation:
hospedando at marriott, but hay’e at another hotel, where past owing to fly one cura, heridando his self
diabierna madruga owing to solicita presencia of ambulance n’e caminda for bay beach among the hotelnan hyatt y occidental for
one tourist that owing to injury his self after of owing to fly cura.
at arrival of ambulance owing to come achieve
one tourist cu is show of is bao influencia of one or another substancia. for of his declaracion owing to succeed saca afor cu the cu his family is hospedando at marriott.
police owing to avisa the famianan while ambulance owing to take away the young here for policlinica at hospital for one chequeo medico.
at his arrival at policlinica the asunto not owing to bay so facil y owing to solicita presencia of police again. at they arrival together cu the family owing to succeed cu much trabao for calma the tourist here y so succeed for personal of first asistencia atende.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Bastibro
- Were you involved in the collecting and posting of Kermit's personal data?
TIA
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #809 3/19/09 -
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Quote from: Sam on March 21, 2009, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: bastibro on March 21, 2009, 08:14:24 PM
Translated version by Google, you could have done that yourself
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.fok.nl%2Ftopic%2F1255051%2F6%2F25&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1
Have any of you taken the time to use this translated version that was requested? It is all there. You might want to try it and see what has been said without jumping on the messengers.
Sam
- I have no idea what you are talking about. This is old news, what is posted in the FOK forum is old news. It's Johan, Bastibro and others and I didn't say they were bashing Beth. There is a Gielen letter there that bashes Beth. IT IS OLD NEWS. That is not the issue.
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Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Anna on March 21, 2009, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: wreck on March 21, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
Once again, the pond was completely empty and supposedly a shoe was recovered. Why the hell are they re-searching this pond for remains and a shoe??????????????
And have a cadaver dog looking for a shoe?
Is the shoe dead? Is it giving off the two enzymes that a deceased body does that activates the training of cadaver dogs?
I don't think so but then wouldn't want to be accused of not upholding all these people would I?
I think taking advantage of this family applies to many in this regard including those who are constantly trying to inject themselves into this situation where they so obviously do not belong. Exploiting a parent's concern is not what I consider upholding. But that's just me.
.
I could not agree more. It is said that Dave is only doing this to be 100% certain she is not in the pond. The ONLY reason that he is doing this is because Caps (and his FOLLOWERS) have created enough hub bub and non-sense to make a desperate father grasp at straws. It is reprehensible. -JMO
Do you think this will STOP those idiots from calling and harassing Dave? I heard Dave had some health problems and with the bunch petering him to death they sure don't help matters much. Caps better hope and pray this pans out, if not his name is dirt and he better watch his back in Aruba.
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