Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)

[no rose colored glasses]

Thank you Klaas and all the mods who help SM be the best!

NRCG, I did not see he's an electrician...interesting.  If you find a source, let me know.  TIA

Hey Lovin',I found it.
Suspect in girl's killing may be linked to October Lake Elsinore abduction attempt
10:54 PM PST on Wednesday, March 3, 2010
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 Chavez said when Gardner registered at the Lake Elsinore station, officials took a new photograph of him and collected information such as details about his vehicle and his employment. Gardner said he is a self-employed electrician, Chavez said.

He declined to say whether the vehicle Gardner was driving matched the descriptions of any of the vehicles described in the abduction attempts.

Officials also reviewed Gardner's record for any red flags, such as recent encounters with law enforcement at his prior address in San Diego County.

They found none.
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http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_W_websuspect.1da2f17.html

Thanks Trimm, and a self employed electrician.

[Missiontoconvict]

Some interesting figures in this article - they were talking about this on our local news this morning. Pawlenty also ordered all the big screen tv's removed at a sex offender treatment center back in Jan stating these tv's are a waste of money and serve no purpose in rehabbing a sex offender. I sent emails to the lawmakers in Minnesota on Tuesday after Chelsea's body was discovered - it appears this new legislature by Pawlenty is a result of the public outcry after Dru Sjodin's rape and murder back in 2003, it may have taken awhile but it worked. I think it is worth going on an all out campaign contacting our legislatures and demanding a change.

Governor wants longer sentences for sex offenders

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - Nearly five years after Minnesota toughened punishments for sex crimes, Gov. Tim Pawlenty renewed the push Tuesday with a proposal to double prison sentences for some sex offenders.

The Republican governor said Minnesota law isn't strong enough on sex crimes.

His latest plan would set the recommended sentence for those convicted of sex offenses involving force, threat of physical harm, dangerous weapons or underage or mentally impaired victims at 25 years in prison. Current law sets it at a minimum of 12 years.

"They are individuals who in my view need to be taken off the streets and locked up for as long as possible," Pawlenty said.

The 2005 law extended the state's most severe penalty - life in prison without possibility of parole - for violent first-time sex offenders whose crimes involved extreme measures such as kidnapping or mutilation, and for some repeat offenders.

That legislation was driven by the outcry after a North Dakota college student named Dru Sjodin disappeared from a mall parking lot in Grand Forks. Her body was recovered months later. Alfonso Rodriguez Jr., a convicted rapist who had been released from a Minnesota prison after serving his time, was sentenced to death for her kidnapping and death.

The number of Minnesota sex offenders committed to treatment after serving their prison time has more than doubled since 2004. Pawlenty said keeping them in prison longer would ultimately save the state money.

He estimated his latest proposal would result in roughly 500 more prison inmates by 2035 as sex offenders stayed behind bars longer.

Even so, he said the state's net cost would be minimal - about $5 million over a quarter century. That's because sex offenders found to be dangerous and committed by the courts to the state sex offender treatment program cost $325 a day, compared with just $63 a day for prison.

Legislative Democrats nevertheless had some concerns about the cost of Pawlenty's plan.

"It's just thrown out there without a lot of thought to the financial implications," said Rep. Michael Paymar, who heads the House Public Safety Finance Division Chairman.

Paymar said the state needs to deal with the soaring cost of committing sexual criminals who have served their prison time. His panel holds a hearing on the issue on Thursday.

Minnesota's prisons currently hold nearly 1,650 sex offenders, while the Minnesota Sex Offender Program houses more than 500 patients and is set to run out of space by mid-2012.

Pawlenty is also seeking $89 million in state borrowing to expand the Moose Lake sex offender treatment complex. So far, Democrats in both legislative chambers have left the project out of their construction projects bills.

On Tuesday, Pawlenty repeated his threat to veto the entire construction package in part because of the omission.

His administration also announced plans to distribute an Internet safety program called NetSmartz to public schools to teach children and teens about the dangers of online sexual predators. It's up to schools whether and how to use the kits, which come courtesy of a U.S. Department of Justice grant.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1408067.shtml?cat=1

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Mission.

[SunnyinTX]

I'm reading that JAG was an electrician, did anyone else read that? Just imagine if that is true how many homes he must have been in?

 Morning nrcg, I haven't been reading much this morning..........I have asked many times if he worked and if he did, what he did. I never got a response so I took it as no one reading knew. thanks for sharing that info.

[SunnyinTX]

Thank you Klaas and all the mods who help SM be the best!

NRCG, I did not see he's an electrician...interesting.  If you find a source, let me know.  TIA

Hey Lovin',I found it.
Suspect in girl's killing may be linked to October Lake Elsinore abduction attempt
10:54 PM PST on Wednesday, March 3, 2010
<snipped>

 Chavez said when Gardner registered at the Lake Elsinore station, officials took a new photograph of him and collected information such as details about his vehicle and his employment. Gardner said he is a self-employed electrician, Chavez said.

He declined to say whether the vehicle Gardner was driving matched the descriptions of any of the vehicles described in the abduction attempts.

Officials also reviewed Gardner's record for any red flags, such as recent encounters with law enforcement at his prior address in San Diego County.

They found none.
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http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_W_websuspect.1da2f17.html

thanks trim....interesting HE said he was a self-employed electrician............sorry but that sounds like pure bullchit to me, but explains (to me) why he was reported as trying to rob the young lady in December.

[Lovinlife]

Thanks for the info on JAG's employment.  I have a stupid question:  Do electricians have to be licensed in CA?

[Lovinlife]

Thanks for the info on JAG's employment.  I have a stupid question:  Do electricians have to be licensed in CA?

Answering my own question  .  If you believe that he was an electrician, here are the requirements for CA. http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/ECU_FAQ.htm Just seeing if his license can be verified.

[trimmonthelake]

Thanks for the info on JAG's employment.  I have a stupid question:  Do electricians have to be licensed in CA?

Answering my own question  .  If you believe that he was an electrician, here are the requirements for CA. http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/ECU_FAQ.htm Just seeing if his license can be verified.

Here is a list of Certified Electricians as of 02/09/10
http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/CA_Electricians_Certified.pdf

[sebastian]

Thank you Klaas and all the mods who help SM be the best!

NRCG, I did not see he's an electrician...interesting.  If you find a source, let me know.  TIA

Hey Lovin',I found it.
Suspect in girl's killing may be linked to October Lake Elsinore abduction attempt
10:54 PM PST on Wednesday, March 3, 2010
<snipped>

 Chavez said when Gardner registered at the Lake Elsinore station, officials took a new photograph of him and collected information such as details about his vehicle and his employment. Gardner said he is a self-employed electrician, Chavez said.

He declined to say whether the vehicle Gardner was driving matched the descriptions of any of the vehicles described in the abduction attempts.

Officials also reviewed Gardner's record for any red flags, such as recent encounters with law enforcement at his prior address in San Diego County.

They found none.
<snipped>

http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_W_websuspect.1da2f17.html

thanks trim....interesting HE said he was a self-employed electrician............sorry but that sounds like pure bullchit to me, but explains (to me) why he was reported as trying to rob the young lady in December.

Hi Sunny!
You are so right! "If he truly is an electrician, he is probably not working. There are so many contractors in San Diego county out of work due to the economy!

[no rose colored glasses]

Facebook update from Chelsea's Light: "All San Diego based Clear Channel radio stations will be honoring Chelsea with a moment of silence today at 12:00 PM, which will be followed by one of her favorite songs. You can listen at AM: 1360 & 1700 or FM: 94.1, 105.3, 95.7, 93.3,101.5"

[Missiontoconvict]

Facebook update from Chelsea's Light: "All San Diego based Clear Channel radio stations will be honoring Chelsea with a moment of silence today at 12:00 PM, which will be followed by one of her favorite songs. You can listen at AM: 1360 & 1700 or FM: 94.1, 105.3, 95.7, 93.3,101.5"

Thank you NoRose.  Some sick and disgusting person on one of her facebook pages set up and account under John Albert Gardener using his mugshot and is posting - very sick, very disturbing. 

[darla]

Thanks for the info on JAG's employment.  I have a stupid question:  Do electricians have to be licensed in CA?

Answering my own question  .  If you believe that he was an electrician, here are the requirements for CA. http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/ECU_FAQ.htm Just seeing if his license can be verified.

Here is a list of Certified Electricians as of 02/09/10
http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/CA_Electricians_Certified.pdf

No matches found for John A Gardner.

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest

Amber alert just issued for a 5 yr old in Fayetteville N.C. I will find it.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Darla.  Mission I guess yesterday people were posting on the facebook, some disgusting things.

[darla]

 
AMBER Alert News Release
 
THIS IS A NORTH CAROLINA AMBER ALERT FOR
A CHILD ABDUCTION
 
Update Description Information
        
RALEIGH 12:07 PM -- The Fort Bragg Police Department is searching for a missing child:   Te-amani Leshay Gerald.
 
Te-amani Leshay Gerald is a 5-year-old Black female, approximately 3 feet  0 inches tall, weighing 50 pounds.   She has black hair, and brown eyes. 

Allegedly, there are 2 abductors:   Alexis D Gerald and  Phyllis Gerald.   Alexis D Gerald is described as Black, female, 5 feet  6 inches tall, weighing 200 pounds.   She has black hair and brown eyes. 

Phyllis Gerald is described as Black, female,

Abduction occured 0815 hours this morning at 22 Lapoterie Street, Fort Bragg NC. Last seen operating a black 1999 Chevrolet Suburban South Carolina reg FVC504. Destination 4212 Big Ben Court, Charleston SC. The vehicle is a Black 1999 Chevrolet Suburban with SC license tag number FVC504.

 
If you have any information regarding this abduction, call the Fort Bragg Police Department immediately at (910) 396-6608, or call 911 or *HP.

[darla]

Thanks Darla.  Mission I guess yesterday people were posting on the facebook, some disgusting things.

It takes a very very sick individual to post that kind of crap on a dead child's web page. They should be locked up with Gardner.

[Lovinlife]

Here is a list of Certified Electricians as of 02/09/10
http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/CA_Electricians_Certified.pdf

No matches found for John A Gardner.

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest

Amber alert just issued for a 5 yr old in Fayetteville N.C. I will find it.

Are you sure?  I see pg.257 13th from the top.  John A. Gardner zip: 92126 Cert#: XXXXX exp: 7/17/2010. 

Note 92126 is a San Diego zip.

[Missiontoconvict]

Thanks Darla.  Mission I guess yesterday people were posting on the facebook, some disgusting things.

It takes a very very sick individual to post that kind of crap on a dead child's web page. They should be locked up with Gardner.

Thank you for the Amber alert Darla, yes it does take a sick person to do that - it really bothered me. 

[darla]

Here is a list of Certified Electricians as of 02/09/10
http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/CA_Electricians_Certified.pdf

No matches found for John A Gardner.

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest

Amber alert just issued for a 5 yr old in Fayetteville N.C. I will find it.

Are you sure?  I see pg.257 13th from the top.  John A. Gardner zip: 92126 Cert#: XXXXX exp: 7/17/2010. 

Note 92126 is a San Diego zip.

I just typed in his name at the search box and it came back no matches found. Sorry, I mis-spoke

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Darla.  Mission I guess yesterday people were posting on the facebook, some disgusting things.

It takes a very very sick individual to post that kind of crap on a dead child's web page. They should be locked up with Gardner.

Horrible  And I pray little Te-amani Leshay Gerald is found safe, I'm assuming her father abducted her?

[Lovinlife]

I just typed in his name at the search box and it came back no matches found. Sorry, I mis-spoke

That's OK Darla.  I have bad eyes.  I thought I was miss reading it and wanted to make sure that I wasn't making up wrong info.