Lively Case Discussion #607 4/28 - 4/29/2007

[yapperz1]

I wouldn't waste my money on that pack of lies. HannieC has it & has been translating portions of it on the reject site

[San]

THE LINE UP IS ON NOW.  I THOUGHT IT WAS ON AT 10:00 EASTERN.

I'm confused because my TV guide says that Heartland with John Kasich should be on now

[Dihannah1]

Greta is interviewing Donald Trump.  I am ssoooooo sick of hearing about Rosie!  She gets enough of her ignorance on air.   Let it go!

[Dihannah1]

THE LINE UP IS ON NOW.  I THOUGHT IT WAS ON AT 10:00 EASTERN.

I'm confused because my TV guide says that Heartland with John Kasich should be on now

I thought it was 10 too...  hmmmmm

[Dihannah1]

I wouldn't waste my money on that pack of lies. HannieC has it & has been translating portions of it on the reject site

Oh, thank God.  I knew nobody here would waste money on that fiction!

[klaasend]

The excerpts from Joran's book are posted in the Important Case Document thread towards the bottom.

[Anna]

There are no anonymous depositions. You have to state your name for the record and establish your identity. You also are bound to state the true under oath under penalties of perjury. What the prosecutor has is a credible witness placing NH at the Sloot home and stating she ran into trouble there. The only thing anonymous about the witness is the decision the prosecutor made not to release the person's identity. You can't get a search warrant based on a tip, you have to have probable cause such as physical evidence in hand or a signed deposition from a credible witness. Many times a signed statement is not enough without corroborating physical evidence. IMO

The Dutch have a credible witness who knows a great deal, otherwise this search could never have happened. More to come.

Spock,
I think that anonymous part is a bad translation.  Perhaps a better one would be undisclosed for you are correct, no court recognizes "anonymous" testimony.

[Patti]

Klaas:

Do you know if there are any officers standing post outside the
Sloots house?

[klaasend]

Klaas:

Do you know if there are any officers standing post outside the
Sloots house?

I doubt it.  It sounds like they are done searching at the Sloot house.  They took lot's of stuff though.

[Dihannah1]

I believe this was asked last night, but couldn't stay up.  Does anybody know how Greta had a producer in Aruba when this broke?  Did she have an inside tip?

[Observer]

Debbie at BFN just posted this..

http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/28/A-28-4-07.pdf

[Patti]

Klaas:

Do you know if there are any officers standing post outside the
Sloots house?

I doubt it.  It sounds like they are done searching at the Sloot house.  They took lot's of stuff though.

Thanks, Sweetie.

I think they WILL be back...

With that said... I will be back as well.

BBL

[Observer]

Debbie at BFN just posted this..

http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/28/A-28-4-07.pdf

It has pics of that container you mentioned..

[klaasend]

Thanks ******* - I'll capture it now



Also, here is a link to the PDF file 171 pages.  I had Tom host it on the SM server.  Second post in this thread - it's in the Important Case Document area:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=678

[Anna]

Alibi version 1.0 has Joran riding the bus as usual, acing tests, etc.  That was the original plan but when Joran went to school and said the girl (remember he doesn't know her name) hit her head, etc. then it became better for Paulus if he was never even there so that he couldn't possibly have said all that stupid stuff he did.

I think he was late getting there and Paulus took him in his car at least that is what the headmaster originally said.  This was Monday.

By Tuesday, Alibi Version 2.0 known as frame the security guards was in place because Beth had arrived and that changed everything.

So Paulus decides that Joran had better not have even been there Monday but forgets he spoke to headmaster.  By Tuesday, he is telling headmaster that the tape broke is why it doesn't show Joran dropping Natalee off at the HI.

But once something starts like Version 1.0, they are never able to round up everybody and move them on to the next version of events and some continue to tell the first version.  Can't go back and tell them to change it.  All Paulus can do is change his own version and hope the others catch on well enough to play along.

This is just what I think and I realize others don't share this scenario of that first day and I don't think we all need to walk in lock step on this.  It is far better to keep open all options and possibilities.

SAN, stick to your guns on his not being there at all for you may well be right.  We need to cover all options!    And it is harder to find proof of something unless you are looking for it.

[MuffyBee]

I thought it had been said Joran laid down in the aisle and slept because he was tired....

[Anna]

Thanks ******* - I'll capture it now



Also, here is a link to the PDF file 171 pages.  I had Tom host it on the SM server.  Second post in this thread - it's in the Important Case Document area:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=678

Page 77 if Deepak Memo to Motion to Compel says Joran gave statement and INDICATION OF AN AREA in his first statemetns to ALE.  Hummm.

[Dihannah1]

Ok, on the Line Up, KG is on.   After 1/2 hr. they are still talking about Trump and Rosie.   They just keep repeating the same thing over and over again.  Why aren't they talking about Natalee!!!!!
Wait now BOR is on???  WTF, they've had about 3 or 4 reporters on tonight's Line-Up....

[klaasend]

Debbie at BFN just posted this..

http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/28/A-28-4-07.pdf

It has pics of that container you mentioned..

That's not the container we are looking for.  It's a normal storage type of container, not as large as the one in these pictures.  Also, it wouldn't be in Bondia yet because it was footage from today.  I'd bet these photos are from yesterday.

[AZSunny]

Debbie at BFN just posted this..

http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/April/28/A-28-4-07.pdf

It has pics of that container you mentioned..

On what page please??  I can't find it.