Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #65

[Brandi]

If the email is real and Cindy did give Caseys brush to FBI she should go to jail
But there is still a hair with a death band on it
so who is missing it's still little Caylee

Monkey hugs to all

LE has to PROVE it was done intentionally, though.

But I agree, she belongs in jail. We know it was done intentionally in our hearts.

And, yes, sadly, Caylee is dead.

[mstam656]

For openers, I am nother a fan of Larry Garrison, nor would I know enough about what was really happening to comment whether he pocketed six thousand dollars.
Number one :
Mr. Garrison has been in this business a long time.
He would not have become anyone's media spokesperson without a contract.
He doesn't do volunteer work for a living, fees must have been discussed. Perhaps Cindy didn't tell NeJame or dislcose to him what type of arrangement she made with Garrison.
Six thousand dollars is not alot of money to Garrison.
Who told us he pocketed the money...
Now, Larry is in possession of evidence in the form of emails from Cindy that might change a few things. What is the man to do ? Keep it all to himself ? He is doing the right thing and providing what he has to the FBI. 
WHY THE HECK WOULD CINDY GIVE LE A HAIRBRUSH SHE KNEW WASN"T JUST CAYLEE'S.
Gee, she might have wanted to bugger the evidence that came from the trunk. O my Goodness, would she do that ?

Bugger with the evidence? HECK yes she would. She already has when she washed the clothes, cleaned the car and didn't call the po po until late that evening. She is as guilty as Casey. I thought at the beginning George had something to do with a cover up, but I really believe Mrs Anthony has been covering up for that worthless skank her entire life and will do it until the day she dies.

and now cincin can go down with her slore daughter....perhaps they could have adjoining cells......

Yep, same cells with bunk beds, pretty curtains for the bars in the windows, etc. Guess they will fight if Cindy gets to put pictures of Caylee on the walls, because Casey doesn't have any right now in her cell.

 heh .. made that on the fly

brilliant   

[numbersgirl]

Invision...it surely could have been her Universal ID...not enough info and none of us were able to find any further mention of it by LE.

Are any others having trouble with SM tonight....I keep getting knocked off...I think I will say goodnight and turn in early...must stuff ears with cottonballs in anticipation of tomorrow morning's Today Show...

Good night fellow monkeys...sweet dreams 

[snowbird]

If the email is real and Cindy did give Caseys brush to FBI she should go to jail
But there is still a hair with a death band on it
so who is missing it's still little Caylee

Monkey hugs to all

LE has to PROVE it was done intentionally, though.

But I agree, she belongs in jail. We know it was done intentionally in our hearts.

And, yes, sadly, Caylee is dead.

[oldfart]

There is a person who has that profile picture on both their facebook and myspace page. The problem is that we don't know if it's Michelle Bart. It does look very similar to Michelle Bart, but the picture is not a close-up, making it difficult to tell.  The other issue is that We know Michelle Bart seems to be using other last names.. last names that both come up with the same profile picture as this woman holding the little girl. It's very confusing...  but getting a definite match for all 3? That's the tough part.

OF.. that may have been confusing.. 

Ok. We have:
Michelle Bart
Michelle Burque
Michelle Capuano.

We have Michelle Bart who is working for/with the Anthonys.
We have a Michelle Burque posting on a forum and representing herself as a family friend, who directs you to the official "find Caylee" site.
We also have a Michelle Capuano, who is posting the same exact sign-off (with a last name changed) on forums as well... also a staunch Anthony supporter.

We have this photo of a Michelle Burque, who may or may not be Michelle Bart. However a search on Facebook for Michelle Burque and Michelle Capuano, both list the woman in the picture under the results.

How that woman ties in with the "infamous" Michelle Bart, I have no idea.

Running to catch up but
I would send Michelle BART the link Invision posted Michelle Burque Myspace
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=187239493
and put the monkey     on her back to check out  who the child is.   ESP  since Michelle Burque  seems to be an Anthony supporter
Jmo of course...

[Stacey]

If the email is real and Cindy did give Caseys brush to FBI she should go to jail
But there is still a hair with a death band on it
so who is missing it's still little Caylee

Monkey hugs to all

LE has to PROVE it was done intentionally, though.

But I agree, she belongs in jail. We know it was done intentionally in our hearts.

And, yes, sadly, Caylee is dead.

I think it was intentionally because she knew of the other brush that SHE only used on Caylee.
So when asked to give Caylee's brush she did not
So that makes me think she knew what she was doing at the time she did it

[Blessed Mother]

Hi all..
my question is this..
With the new info about the hairbrush and Cindy's disgusting cover up, how will we
ever know if they truly have some of Caylee's DNA for comparison? Like a control
sample to compare anything (remains) found to?
It's not like a 2yr old is in a DNA database, and I'm sure that they have washed
all of Caylee's clothes, cleaned out her hairbrush. This worries me. Without knowing
the father of Caylee, even if they were to find her remains, could they prove positively
that it IS Caylee? They could tell that it is a relative of the Anthony's but not that it is
conclusively, without a doubt a match to Caylee.. because there would be nothing to
match it to. This just disgusts me because this is another time that Cindy will be able
to run her mouth and say that nothing has been proven positively. I hate her!!

[oldfart]

Gotta Run   SYB  for a bit... and Greta is in 30 min....

[mstam656]

OK -- so a key card was in Casey's possession, right? 

When LP first said Casey may have been staying at a hotel or motel sometimes, I dismissed that because I felt someone would have come forward to say that she had been there, whether a maid or doorman or receptionist/clerk or someone.  Also, don't most hotels require info about a car, including license plates?

But it is possible, if she was a hooker or escort, that she had an agreement with hotel management and others to be under the radar.  Or maybe she just always asked a john to provide her with a key card so she could meet him at his hotel or motel.

Just speculation...may be no truth to it at all.

Also possible the key card was to an apartment, as some have suggested, perhaps even an empty one. 

Maybe she was using that empty apartment that she said belonged to Zaneida? I really can't dismiss the hooker scenario, she had no morels regarding sex, just do and leave was her MO. She also needed cash quickly. To me, that would be the perfect profession for KC. And who the heck would come forward to say Oh yeah, I did her for $20?!! Same reason no one in those  "porno" pictures of her has splashed them across the Internet, they don't want to be involved in this huge mess.

Boo I don't she was into making porn. I think if she was into the porno scene, those videos would be up in a NY minute. Pay per view only. It is always about how to make a buck. Remember Paris Hilton, her guy friend sold their video on the internet and made big bucks way back when. She may have been a prostitute, but I truly believe she didn't do the sex thing for the money. She did it for CONTROL. She couldn't control her own life because of Cindy, she couldn't control Caylee because of Cindy so the only thing she could control was between her legs. And that gave her control over men. Just my opinion.

I do not think KC was selling drugs, transporting drugs, or making porn, or charging anyone for sex....if she was then she would have had money and not have to steal...usually illegal activities are done for the money...otherwise why risk it?

[Brandi]

Invision...it surely could have been her Universal ID...not enough info and none of us were able to find any further mention of it by LE.

Are any others having trouble with SM tonight....I keep getting knocked off...I think I will say goodnight and turn in early...must stuff ears with cottonballs in anticipation of tomorrow morning's Today Show...

Good night fellow monkeys...sweet dreams 

good night, numbersgirl.

I have been having problems on the site for a few days now ...it's not just you.

sleep well.

[joesamas mama]

If the email is real and Cindy did give Caseys brush to FBI she should go to jail
But there is still a hair with a death band on it
so who is missing it's still little Caylee

Monkey hugs to all

LE has to PROVE it was done intentionally, though.

But I agree, she belongs in jail. We know it was done intentionally in our hearts.

And, yes, sadly, Caylee is dead.

I think it was intentionally because she knew of the other brush that SHE only used on Caylee.
So when asked to give Caylee's brush she did not
So that makes me think she knew what she was doing at the time she did it

She knew what she was doing, plain and simple. I think she is as devious (sp) as her daughter. I don't even think Geo the simpleton that he is told her to do it. She held back evidence and she needs to be called on it by LE. If not, I have no faith in the system. Not that I had any to begin with, but that is another story.

[no rose colored glasses]

Janet- I'm with you on the free pass, I reallly can't believe everything the Anthony's have been doing, and now the latest with the hair brush. I seriously doubt anything will be done. And now tomorrow another TV appearance, what more do these people have to say? I really am afraid to find out what other things the Anthony's have done to protect that daughter of theirs.

[bikerbev]

Hey Boo, Cindy should have never called Kathy Belich STUPID! At least I think that is the person I thought she was calling stupid at BP. That woman seems like a pit bull once you piss her off. I thought she was gonna get walloped by that Millstead guy and his old lady, but she just kept after it. She has some brass b*lls!!!

I was thinking the exact same thing.  She called Kathy a stupid woman asking stupid questions at BP.  I really didn't see Kathy 'digging' into the case before, just reporting facts, but bravo for Kathy.  Go get 'em!

[Brandi]

If the email is real and Cindy did give Caseys brush to FBI she should go to jail
But there is still a hair with a death band on it
so who is missing it's still little Caylee

Monkey hugs to all

LE has to PROVE it was done intentionally, though.

But I agree, she belongs in jail. We know it was done intentionally in our hearts.

And, yes, sadly, Caylee is dead.

I think it was intentionally because she knew of the other brush that SHE only used on Caylee.
So when asked to give Caylee's brush she did not
So that makes me think she knew what she was doing at the time she did it

Oh, yes! I am quite sure she knew what she was doing, and knew it was wrong. And I think she did a lot of other things to mislead and obstruct this investigation as well!

But, none the less, it has to be proved by LE that it was intentional. Knowing it and proving it are two different things.

[Kat_Gram]

Hi all..
my question is this..
With the new info about the hairbrush and Cindy's disgusting cover up, how will we
ever know if they truly have some of Caylee's DNA for comparison? Like a control
sample to compare anything (remains) found to?
It's not like a 2yr old is in a DNA database, and I'm sure that they have washed
all of Caylee's clothes, cleaned out her hairbrush. This worries me. Without knowing
the father of Caylee, even if they were to find her remains, could they prove positively
that it IS Caylee? They could tell that it is a relative of the Anthony's but not that it is
conclusively, without a doubt a match to Caylee.. because there would be nothing to
match it to. This just disgusts me because this is another time that Cindy will be able
to run her mouth and say that nothing has been proven positively. I hate her!!

Jesse provided LE with the a full DNA profile to determine paternity. Must have had Caylee's. Another reason for the Ant's to hate Jesse.
They have Casey's DNA and Cindy's DNA. They don't have to have the hit and run guys DNA.

[anothermonkey]

Running to catch up but
I would send Michelle BART the link Invision posted Michelle Burque Myspace
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=187239493
and put the monkey     on her back to check out  who the child is.   ESP  since Michelle Burque  seems to be an Anthony supporter
Jmo of course...

Might could do it, OF... 

Interesting comment found on Michelle's site..

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8189208027773155374&postID=3607366850148441461

yesterday my husband and I were talking and thought of a way to help find Caylee, I we would have thought about it sooner. If we wrote to all major cell phone companies and a asked them to send all their subscribers a photo of Caylee and a text asking them to set as a screen saver as a way to remember her face. This way if someone were to see her and were not too sure they could open there phone and see her face. Set a number for them to call. We need to keep her face in everyones mind it is hard to remember a face in our everyday routines, but I feel like this can help. There would be so many people with the thought of her everyday. I just feel like with this many people involved the chances are higher @ finding her.

[invision]

hhhuuummm interesting given that Michelle Barque's myspace is current ... maybe she chose not to change her last name on that ... who knows .. either way ... I don't think she is Michelle Bart ... JMO though ...

So here is what we know.

We have 3 Michelle's.
Michelle Bart currently working for the Anthonys.  Also, Michelle Burque, and Michelle Capuano- both posting notes that are "pro-Anthony", and signing off in the same particular way ... "A Family Friend, Michelle ______"

So do we really have 3 separate Michelle's? Or two, and one of them goes by two different names, in a relatively short period of time on the forums- both posting in favor of the Anthonys, and both asking for support (directed to the HelpFindCaylee.com site)?

Do you see why this is so intriguing to me to figure out?

   sorry Another ... I haven't seen the "letter" from Michelle Burque ... in fact I'm not sure where that name originated other than seeing it in angoramonkeys one post ...  I would be interested to see it if you can point me in the right direction ...

[flossy]

Is anyone else going to send an email to NBC before the Today Show tomorrow? 

I just sent this:

As one of the many viewers who have been captivated and appalled by the Caylee Anthony case, I am hoping that the interviewer tomorrow will ask tough questions in an effort to get to the truth and not merely afford yet another opportunity for the Anthonys to spew blatant lies in their obvious attempt to taint the potential jury pool and create reasonable doubt.   There is no other reason that the Anthonys, along with Casey's attorney Jose Baez, would be fighting a gag order.   Any attorney will tell you that this is highly unusual.   They need to be able to get their faces on TV as much as possible and voice their supposed "belief" that Caylee is alive, despite forensic evidence to the contrary.  Such an attempt is their only hope for a "not guilty" verdict when their daughter is tried for murder in a few months.
 
New information has surfaced today (in the form of an e-mail supplied to an Orlando TV station by former spokesman Larry Garrison) which alleges that Cindy Anthony purposely disregarded the FBI's request for a hairbrush which was solely for use on Caylee's hair.  She knowingly provided a hairbrush that was used by both Caylee and Casey despite their specific request.  I would like to see the Anthonys confronted in regard to this allegation.   There are many, many people (in addition to those in Law Enforcement) who believe that the Anthonys have made a concerted effort since day one to cover up the actions of their daughter.  There was also another allegation made by the female employee of bounty hunter Leonard Padilla who stayed in the Anthony's home in which she states that she witnessed Cindy suggesting to her husband that the Anthonys provide "the toothbrush that they used on the dog" to the FBI when they requested Caylee's toothbrush.
 
This is obviously a very high profile case and the Anthonys are using the media in an effort to convey reasonable doubt to the American public long before the case is even set to go to trial.   Tip-toeing around them is, in my opinion, irresponsible journalism.   Getting to THE truth is what it should be about, not just broadcasting "the Anthonys' truth".

[Tamikosmom]

OMG! I almost fell off my bed watching NG when Susan Moss said "even Helen Keller has heard this story " 

Ok did LP say Cindy said "I never should have given them the toothbrush I used to brush the dogs with" OR "I should have given them the toothbrush I used to brush the dog with" ????

Cindy should go STRAIGHT to jail!

Brandi I love the things you are making! Your avatar is so cute!

Mags ... I laughed and laughed and laughed.  The tears were running down my face.  Some people are so quick with the right witty responses ... witty responses that are so appropriate.

Not going to happen!  Apparently ... there are no legal consequences for those who have lost grandchildren if they obstruct justice in regards to related investigations.

 

Janet

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FBI Investigating Email That Could Land Cindy In Jail
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 – updated: 6:07 pm EST November 25, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, fla. -- The FBI is investigating an email, obtained only by Eyewitness News, and legal experts say what's in it could land Cindy Anthony in a jail cell for obstructing justice.

If the FBI finds the email is legit, it could prove Cindy was deliberately hiding evidence from detectives and, while Eyewitness News investigates the possible cover-up, the state wants the Anthony family to shut up.

When Eyewitness News obtained an email from Larry Garrison (read the email), it was handed over to the FBI because of the explosive evidence inside. The email says Cindy gave investigators the wrong hairbrush when they asked for Caylee's brush in late July to compare DNA from her hair to the hair they found in Casey's trunk, where it smelled of death.

Eyewitness News told the FBI about it and now they're investigating whether Cindy has tried to sabotage the investigation.

Cindy Anthony tries to give the appearance that she's cooperating with investigators, but Eyewitness News has learned she and her husband George have been stalling for weeks to answer their follow-up questions in the investigation.

Then Tuesday, a controversial email surfaced. It appears that the Anthonys' former spokesman, Larry Garrison, says he confronted Cindy by email about why she gave Casey's hairbrush, instead of Caylee's hairbrush, to investigators who wanted a DNA sample.

Garrison said Cindy's emailed response was: "I never lied. I just never went to my bathroom to get the hairbrush that I used only for Caylee."

Eyewitness News passed the email along to FBI Special Agent Nick Savage, who told Eyewitness News Tuesday: "The appropriate weight will be given to this like all other information received. Law enforcement will address this matter as it relates to the investigation."

Eyewitness News legal analyst Bill Scheaffer told Eyewitness News the obstruction of justice statute could apply.

"If she knowingly gave the investigators the wrong hairbrush, then I think there's enough elasticity in this statute that one could bring a charge of obstructing justice," Schaeffer said.

It is unlikely the Anthonys would be charged since they lost their granddaughter, but the issues could affect their credibility if they try to defend Casey in court.

So is this "obstructing justice?" Eyewitness News looked up the legal definition: "An attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers, including threatening witnesses, improper conversations with jurors, hiding evidence, or interfering with an arrest. Such activity is a crime."

http://www.wftv.com/news/18146218/detail.html

[invision]

It appears that American Law conforms with Dutch Law when obstruction of justice in regards to family members is considered.

It appears that parents of suspects have a free pass to obstruct the investigation with no consequences.

Janet
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AMERICAN LAW

FBI Investigating Email That Could Land Cindy In Jail
Tuesday, November 25, 2008 – updated: 6:07 pm EST November 25, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, fla. -- The FBI is investigating an email, obtained only by Eyewitness News, and legal experts say what's in it could land Cindy Anthony in a jail cell for obstructing justice.

If the FBI finds the email is legit, it could prove Cindy was deliberately hiding evidence from detectives and, while Eyewitness News investigates the possible cover-up, the state wants the Anthony family to shut up.

When Eyewitness News obtained an email from Larry Garrison (read the email), it was handed over to the FBI because of the explosive evidence inside. The email says Cindy gave investigators the wrong hairbrush when they asked for Caylee's brush in late July to compare DNA from her hair to the hair they found in Casey's trunk, where it smelled of death.

Eyewitness News told the FBI about it and now they're investigating whether Cindy has tried to sabotage the investigation.

Cindy Anthony tries to give the appearance that she's cooperating with investigators, but Eyewitness News has learned she and her husband George have been stalling for weeks to answer their follow-up questions in the investigation.

Then Tuesday, a controversial email surfaced. It appears that the Anthonys' former spokesman, Larry Garrison, says he confronted Cindy by email about why she gave Casey's hairbrush, instead of Caylee's hairbrush, to investigators who wanted a DNA sample.

Garrison said Cindy's emailed response was: "I never lied. I just never went to my bathroom to get the hairbrush that I used only for Caylee."

Eyewitness News passed the email along to FBI Special Agent Nick Savage, who told Eyewitness News Tuesday: "The appropriate weight will be given to this like all other information received. Law enforcement will address this matter as it relates to the investigation."

Eyewitness News legal analyst Bill Scheaffer told Eyewitness News the obstruction of justice statute could apply.

"If she knowingly gave the investigators the wrong hairbrush, then I think there's enough elasticity in this statute that one could bring a charge of obstructing justice," Schaeffer said.

It is unlikely the Anthonys would be charged since they lost their granddaughter, but the issues could affect their credibility if they try to defend Casey in court.

So is this "obstructing justice?" Eyewitness News looked up the legal definition: "An attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers, including threatening witnesses, improper conversations with jurors, hiding evidence, or interfering with an arrest. Such activity is a crime."

http://www.wftv.com/news/18146218/detail.html


DUTCH LAW

'The Abrams Report' for June 30
updated 10:30 a.m. PT, Fri., July. 1, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: Well basically obstruction of justice is a criminal offense in our criminal code. However, there is an exoneration for family members in the first degree. So in the case of Mr. Van der Sloot it would not apply.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430777

LOL  Janet you just scared the begeebers out of me ... I just read this post in the NH thread ... then I saw it here and thought I somehow had gotten back to NH thread ... WHOA ... I was really confused for a second!  LOL