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WidgetTheMidget
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Lively Case Discussion #509 8/9 - 8/10/2006
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If Deepak Or Satish Are Guilty JVDS Would Have Rolled Over On Them A
LONG Time Ago .....The Cover-Up Comes From The Sloot Camp Not The
Kalpoe Camp ........The Kalpoes Know What Happened But Are Being
Played As Pawns ........Someone That We All Know, Knows The Routine
Of The PERPS But NO ONE Seems To Be Interested In Acquiring The INFO
By The Way ........
The Weather Is Rainy & The Track Is Sloppy ................
To Jacquie MET FEVER ...................
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Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Hi Monkeys!
I am finally in the office after 2 days of Monster.com training at a Beautiful Hotel in Fort Lauderdale!
It was awesome!
2 days in a beautiful hotel in Fort Lauderdale...what is up with that?
I got a power point presentation and two hours on the phone with 50 other people!!
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Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
If Deepak Or Satish Are Guilty JVDS Would Have Rolled Over On Them A
LONG Time Ago .....The Cover-Up Comes From The Sloot Camp Not The
Kalpoe Camp ........The Kalpoes Know What Happened But Are Being
Played As Pawns ........Someone That We All Know, Knows The Routine
Of The PERPS But NO ONE Seems To Be Interested In Acquiring The INFO
By The Way ........
The Weather Is Rainy & The Track Is Sloppy ................
To Jacquie MET FEVER ...................
Oh yeah, baby....check out in the lounge my post about any sport fan will like it....
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To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:
“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”
Joran is asked where "the girl" is buried then.... his response? "IT" was buried then next to wall of the Fisherman's Hut...Natalee is no longer the girl to Joran...but "IT" as in body or corpse
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Tell The JEWS ..................
The Vander Sloots Support The Hezbolah .............
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Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Tell The JEWS ..................
The Vander Sloots Support The Hezbolah .............
......and the darkside is saying that Jossy pays the 'Hez'!!!....LOL! This is all so totally out of control, unreal.
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Quote from: "ldstlou"
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To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:
“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”
Joran is asked where "the girl" is buried then.... his response? "IT" was buried then next to wall of the Fisherman's Hut...Natalee is no longer the girl to Joran...but "IT" as in body or corpse
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
Welcome back, everybody. I`m Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us. Very quickly, to Natalee`s uncle. Joining us is Paul Reynolds. Paul, I understand that you took it upon yourself to go search the area of the of the Holiday Inn.
REYNOLDS: Actually, I was following the Equusearch people that were doing the ground-penetrating sonar over on the
beach just north of the Marriott. And one of the Equusearch personnel that I was speaking to had found something suspicious over -- under some trees adjacent to the north side of the Marriott.
GRACE: Hold on. Hold on, Paul. This is a live shot of what he`s talking about, near the hotels. Go ahead, Paul.
REYNOLDS: We went over there and found a
suspicious-looking bag, a small bag, but, you know, had a strong odor about it. We weren`t sure what it was. We were looking around the area. We detected some strange-looking mounds close to that and some strange odors coming in that area.
We contacted the police
. They sent some detectives over there, and you know, brought a dog over there to check it out. You know, I`m not sure that we found anything, but you know, it gives us confidence in the responsiveness of the investigation, the intensity. You know, while Dave and Equusearch and all them are over at the landfill, you know, we`re still looking in other places. It`s -- you know, we`re -- it`s a multi-faceted investigation. And it`s this much awareness and intensity that gives us hope.
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Hi
2NJSons_Mom
~ Yeah ~ I meant to have her given name in the post ~ I even used Edith Stein when I searched for her chosen Carmelite name...
But when I highlighted the phrase with the botched up spelling ~ I took too much and deleted
Edith Stein
too...
When Father Kevin said who's feast day it was that we were celebrating today ~ I didn't know who it was until he said, "Edith Stein" ~ and then I knew why the vestments were red...
Because I know how she died...
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August 09, 2006, 03:23:49 PM »
Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Hi Monkeys!
I am finally in the office after 2 days of Monster.com training at a Beautiful Hotel in Fort Lauderdale!
It was awesome!
Hi fm!
I know -- we're spoiled, right?
Next week is our wedding anniversary -- and we're probably going to have dinner and spend the night in a resort on Key Biscayne.
Just because we can
(it's practically walking distance for us -- definitely biking distance)
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August 09, 2006, 03:23:56 PM »
Quote from: "Anna"
Here is the entire scoop on USAToday. And with this, I have to go work and lurk. . . . .
quote="nonesuche"]Anna-
What about the windsurfer who vanished from the HI without a trace, or the young boy who vanished in the waters while jet-skiing with that older man? I wish I had kept that information.
I have told him of those two other missing Americans but think he will respond that they are not officially listed as murders.
ONLY as missing. Yeah, right! But we know that trick now is how they keep their murder rate deceptively low.
But we will find the two or three more that will put Aruba definitely higher than the U.S. even with all the false classification they do to prevent the truth of the matter from being known. And they have their all too willing accomplices in the MSM to assist them in preventing people from knowing what really goes on there.
I am also going to send him a little background on one of Aruba's most upstanding citizens, Michael Posner, as well.
Here is the address of the man who wrote the article stating that there had only been one murder in Aruba in the past twenty years for USAToday
travel@davidgrossman.net
Here is his address at the paper. You put Grossman in the subject line to see that it is directed to him:
travel@usatoday.com
<
travel@usatoday.com
>.
This is a link to an article in USAToday and this Grossman who wrote it says that Aruba has had one murder in the last twenty years. I have already written to him protesting that statement but the horror of it is he made it apparently speaking to a group of travel agents!!
Please write to Mr Grossman if you feel so inclined and request that he correct this horrific disinformation. Here is the article and his email address is at the bottom of the article.
http://tinyurl.com/mg6ju
Justinsmama found this:
This what Grossman at USA Today wrote:
Quote:
Many people say they feel safe when traveling. But our sense of "safe" is often distorted by media coverage (or the lack of it) and distance, according to Tarlow. For example, the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gained worldwide attention and caused a decline in visitors to Aruba, even though it is the safest island in the Caribbean with only one murder reported in the last 20 years.
To report corrections and clarifications, contact Reader Editor Brent Jones at 1-800-872-7073 or e-mail
accuracy@usatoday.com
So here we can have all the contact infomation at one place although you can go to the USATODAY website and write to the travel editor who is also the boss of this Grossman who write one murder in the last twenty years in Aruba and tells that to a group of travel agents![/quote]
USATODAY proving itself to try and overtake the NYT with its fabrication and obfuscation.
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Good afternoon monkeys....
The weather is about to consume us.....so I will hold my page and see you after prayers and thunderstorms.....
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KLASS ROCKS
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Tylergal
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Quote from: "Smish"
the big hammer wrote:
van der Straaten
He handles interrogations of jvds, but not other two. He is directly involved w/ sloot throughout questioning, but never kalpoe.
This is another important piece. And something new (at least to me).
RE statement of June 13. As noted by others, van der Straaten signs this document on June 17, and presumably submits it then. This delay is a problem. This is not only strange, but is procedural breach. And in case so important to Aruba, this failure to follow procedure is glaring, and an oversight a seasoned, ranking police officer simply would not make.
Unless...there was a reason to.
Exactly, Hammer. What did van der Straaten have to do from Monday afternoon the 13th until sometime Friday the 17th before signing? Glaring is exactly what it is, imo.
Maybe we need to go back and see exactly what was going on in the so called investigation between june 13th and june 17th?What were they doing in this time period?
Is the time of June 13 consistent w/ the date that SCOOP summoned Beth & Jug to the courthouse, only to prove yet again what a lying poseur she was and what an enabler of evil exists in her micromini brain.
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LilPuma
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Quote from: "Smish"
the big hammer wrote:
van der Straaten
He handles interrogations of jvds, but not other two. He is directly involved w/ sloot throughout questioning, but never kalpoe.
This is another important piece. And something new (at least to me).
RE statement of June 13. As noted by others, van der Straaten signs this document on June 17, and presumably submits it then. This delay is a problem. This is not only strange, but is procedural breach. And in case so important to Aruba, this failure to follow procedure is glaring, and an oversight a seasoned, ranking police officer simply would not make.
Unless...there was a reason to.
Exactly, Hammer. What did van der Straaten have to do from Monday afternoon the 13th until sometime Friday the 17th before signing? Glaring is exactly what it is, imo.
Maybe we need to go back and see exactly what was going on in the so called investigation between june 13th and june 17th?What were they doing in this time period?
Hey Smish! Good to see you! I'd guess that van der Straaten waited those four days to make sure that no evidence or witnesses came forward that could prove Joran was lying again. If anything did, Uncle Jan needed time to "eliminate" it.
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Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
If Deepak Or Satish Are Guilty JVDS Would Have Rolled Over On Them A
LONG Time Ago .....The Cover-Up Comes From The Sloot Camp Not The
Kalpoe Camp ........The Kalpoes Know What Happened But Are Being
Played As Pawns ........Someone That We All Know, Knows The Routine
Of The PERPS But NO ONE Seems To Be Interested In Acquiring The INFO
By The Way ........
The Weather Is Rainy & The Track Is Sloppy ................
To Jacquie MET FEVER ...................
Absolutely, Widget, that was their job to be cognizant of Joran's shortcomings all the time and keep him from harm and evil and out of trouble. They were probably "babysitters" and "enablers of this spawn of Satan, which Paulus and Anita had already discovered was not manageable and they were paying the K2 to babysit him and ensure he stayed out of trouble and when Paulus remanded them to the pool for the NO BODY, NO CRIME conversation, he was probably quick to remind them they were not doing what they were paid to do, after receiving all the free drinks and porno that Joran had shared with them, they run off home and let him get into trouble.
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Msmarples: thanks for that article (even though it did raise my BP)
In my opinion, they are way off base - Did we EVER say that murders/crimes Don't happen in the US?
NO
Did we ever say that murders/crimes don't happen in New York, Alabama, or any city in the US?
NO
The POINT is.... If God forbid, you ARE the victim of a crime, Will Justice be served? Will you be treated with respect and will the Law Enforcement of the said Country TRY to solve the crime? Will there be an investigation? Will police protect and serve? Will the Law Enforcement care whether justice is served? If you are in Aruba -
NO
They will first ask you how much money you have - then after they finish their cereal, they will begin a smear campaign against the victim, you and anyone who asks any questions. They will intimidate any witnesses and destroy evidence. That's just the tip of the iceburg. I'm too mad to go on...
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Quote from: "WidgetTheMidget"
Tell The JEWS ..................
The Vander Sloots Support The Hezbolah .............
I am not sure that would have to be fabricated.
Where do all the drugs come from that supports Hizb'Allah and where do they transport and who is their enabler and what role is Venezuela playing in all this and how well known is Paulus in Vz? What connections do he and Rudy Croes have there?
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NEW FRONT PAGE POST:
DEEPAK JUNE 13, 2005 STATEMENT
www.scaredmonkeys.com
Also a thread for the same:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=182
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Quote from: "Anna"
Here is the entire scoop on USAToday. And with this, I have to go work and lurk. . . . .
quote="nonesuche"]Anna-
What about the windsurfer who vanished from the HI without a trace, or the young boy who vanished in the waters while jet-skiing with that older man? I wish I had kept that information.
I have told him of those two other missing Americans but think he will respond that they are not officially listed as murders.
ONLY as missing. Yeah, right! But we know that trick now is how they keep their murder rate deceptively low.
But we will find the two or three more that will put Aruba definitely higher than the U.S. even with all the false classification they do to prevent the truth of the matter from being known. And they have their all too willing accomplices in the MSM to assist them in preventing people from knowing what really goes on there.
I am also going to send him a little background on one of Aruba's most upstanding citizens, Michael Posner, as well.
Here is the address of the man who wrote the article stating that there had only been one murder in Aruba in the past twenty years for USAToday
travel@davidgrossman.net
Here is his address at the paper. You put Grossman in the subject line to see that it is directed to him:
travel@usatoday.com
<
travel@usatoday.com
>.
This is a link to an article in USAToday and this Grossman who wrote it says that Aruba has had one murder in the last twenty years. I have already written to him protesting that statement but the horror of it is he made it apparently speaking to a group of travel agents!!
Please write to Mr Grossman if you feel so inclined and request that he correct this horrific disinformation. Here is the article and his email address is at the bottom of the article.
http://tinyurl.com/mg6ju
Justinsmama found this:
This what Grossman at USA Today wrote:
Quote:
Many people say they feel safe when traveling. But our sense of "safe" is often distorted by media coverage (or the lack of it) and distance, according to Tarlow. For example, the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gained worldwide attention and caused a decline in visitors to Aruba, even though it is the safest island in the Caribbean with only one murder reported in the last 20 years.
To report corrections and clarifications, contact Reader Editor Brent Jones at 1-800-872-7073 or e-mail
accuracy@usatoday.com
So here we can have all the contact infomation at one place although you can go to the USATODAY website and write to the travel editor who is also the boss of this Grossman who write one murder in the last twenty years in Aruba and tells that to a group of travel agents![/quote]
Anna thank you so much....I have sent emails to each. and Good Afternoon Monks!!
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Natalee, We will never forget.
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Quote from: "flyingmermaid"
Hi Monkeys!
I am finally in the office after 2 days of Monster.com training at a Beautiful Hotel in Fort Lauderdale!
It was awesome!
Hi FM....missed you!!
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Rest in Peace Caylee
Natalee, We will never forget.
Zahra, run with the Angels
PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GET OVER IT! It's not about you or me.....It's about the Missing and the Murdered
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===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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