Caylee Marie Anthony #92 1/15/09 - 1/17/09

[Ono]

Cheeky -    You aren't alone, I think everyone is watching Greta.

Greta just said something about investigators going to the Anthony home TODAY

Wonder what that is all about?

Conway was careful to say it was "nothing regarding the murder investigation".  He's good with word parsing I've noticed.  Maybe it was regarding aiding & abetting ?;  Conway is easier to watch than Baez.  I often wonder when he will have enough and fire his clients.  Maybe he won't though.

[Desdemona]

does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?

Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!

Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..

Anybody remember a story in one of the interviews with one of the friends, that they couldn't get into a certain club or bar b/c Casey didn't have a valid ID?  What was the date?  (Or am I just imagining this?)

And in preparation for the July 4 party at Will Waters' place, they couldn't buy alcohol in Casey's company, b/c she did not have a valid ID, remember?  I think this was from Amy's OCSO interviews, but may have been Will's... or both, can't recall.

BTW, CBB, thank you for the Ann Rule link.  Good stuff.

[Deenie]

I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!! 

I loves My BOO  - Yes keep your Socks On ...  I will find U.

[3babiesmommy]

I just went back through and read all of the text messages between Casey and Amy. These are a few that pop out at me.

5/7/08
10:42 AM
Not looking forward to working.

5/9/08
Working until 10 PM

5/16/08
10:47 AM
Working all night

5/16/08
10:50 AM
Wish I wasn't working.

5/17/08
5:54 PM
I can't do anything tonight. Thank you SH$TTY work schedule.

5/19/08
10:52 AM
Working 12 hours, split shifts.

5/21/08
Flu. Dr. Bruised Rib

Ok, we know she didn't work at Universal. So could we imply she means watching Caylee? Or was this her 'other' job. I know restaurants make you work split shifts but where else? We know she lies and that could be all this is but it makes you wonder. How does one get a bruised rib if you never do anything? Maybe she didn't bruise her rib at all. And we all complain about our jobs but if you don't have a job is this just banter between friends?

LuckyCharm..
This individual blows my mind!  A true sociopath.  I think that KC is a predator.    I really enjoy reading your posts.  What is the focus of your psychology practice?  I am a therapist and I worked with sexual abuse victims.  I have a gut feeling that Caylee was abused. 

3babiesMom

I would like your opinion on this article due to your profession. This is not O/T really due to the accusations from Casey saying Lee sexually tried ( whatever she said touching I can't recall) But this goes along with a Case in my local area that happened tragically on New Years 2009. A 17 yr old Girl was Murdered by Her Brother due to she would not have sex with him. He did brutally stab her and raped her and then Killed her. This is an article written by a psychologist on "Family" afflicted by sibling incest.

http://hometownlife.com/article/20090115/NEWS11/901150418/1028

Women, Children, Animals any sigh ..abuse is abuse, verbal, mental, physical, sexual ... All of it can lead to Tragedy.

Hi Deenie,
What a tragedy.  The author makes some great points.  In families that I have worked with, there is often the factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries.  In many families, communication of appropriate boundaries do not occur in these families.  I had a client that was abused by her father.  The child reported it several times but the familydismissed the child.  The child was vilified by her immediate and extended family and labeled a liar.  To make a long story short, the family had many members (generational) that perpatrated on children.  It was normal for this family. One member of the extended family committed suicide when his victim spoke out.  She was blamed for his death and the family disowned her.   
BTW, I do not think that Casey was victimized by her father or Lee.  Casey is an aggressor.  She knew how to manipulate her boyfriends, friends and family. 

3babiesMom ~ thank u
With what that article says ... Do you believe in the name of psychology that the words stated factor of social isolation, secrecy and poor boundaries remove the sexual abuse but add Mental applies to the Ant Family .. applies to the childhood as siblings Casey and Lee. In my thoughts, I think they were very controlled and isolated from society by Cindy... When Casey's talks in this new found video - that she wants her supportive family and friends outside of her Parents .... She has always been a loner it seems and has little family outside of Dad, Mom and Lee.
Poor Boundaries I think can mean - Your not allowed to go out of MY Boundaries that I give You - Cindy to Casey. That it came to the Point that Casey never mentally grew up.
That she was to remain a Kid and not have cognitive decision making skills for her age. No Nanners. I mean with Life in the real world. Getting a Job, paying Bills, Supporting yourself being honest, working etc... being accountable, responsible without being told to

But what I cant understand is why she lies all the time. She acts like a little kid. Is not accountable, is not responsible and then when she proves It on a higher level  by stealing, lying, cheating etc ... Cindy just let her continue that way and has never said STOP or I am going to prosecute you or anything ..nothing. That is hard for the majority of us to understand 99.9%.

I understand that Casey *possibly is a Pathological liar .. more than probable is.
Environment, Mental Abuse, etc ... would be Key to a person acting out - Not specifically of why  Casey is Casey but I do believe that Cindy's influence on Casey has a " Part" in how Casey is today. I am NO WAY Defending Casey because I know people personally that have lived horrible,sad,awful childhoods and are not abusive nor are evil as adults today. They have good jobs, Homes, Families and are loving people.
The Ants in the family unit though screams dysfunctional.

Hi Deenie,
Yes, I think you have a good take on how this family has functioned.  I think that there are so many layers to what attributed to the dysfunction in the A family as well as KC.  I would love to know what her psychologicals reveal about her. It was interesting that when the lawyer that fought against the DP for her stated that she probaly suffered from a mental illness, such as bipolar disorder.  One can be mentally ill and have a personality disorder.    I think that KC has learned to lie because it gets her whats she wants.  I would theorize she was exposed to one or both parents and their untruths.  Sin Sin also was seeing a psychologist.  I would like to know if she had been diagnosed.  She told LE there is no history of psych problems but that may not be something she would want to reveal.   Remember, George has a history of problems that he had to hide from SinSin and the family. (If I recall, he lost a lot of money in an internet scam.)  Sin Sin also explains KC's lies with totally illogical excuses or reasons.  As we watch this family, it totally shocks us.  However, the A family can not understand why we do not embrace these explanations.  As much as it seemed the A's were not isolated and initially appearing to be a typical family, the A's probaly had little, if any, close friendships.  While they probaly had "friends", they probaly lacked depth.  I hope this does not sound like i am rambling..my son is cutting a tooth, so i am holding him as he cries and i am typing.

That makes Sense thank u for taking the time out - to answer

For Baby you know what works for new Teef besides meds - although I have heard Motrin is preferred when Teeth are involved not Tylenol  - I used to take those freezer pops and cut off the ends so they were not sharp ..and let my daughter gum them ... Koolaid makes the shorter versions ..nice and fat ...cooling and soothing

Or you can take a washcloth cut it small and soak it - squeeze it out - Freeze it  = Good Stuff ...for new Teef
Hugs Mamma

Thank you.  I will get some of those ice pops.  7 months old and 6 teeth!
monkey hugs to you!

[crazybabyborg]

does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?

Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!

Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..

Thanks, Blink! 

[3babiesmommy]

I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!! 

I loves My BOO  - Yes keep your Socks On ...  I will find U.

nite deenie.

[Deenie]

I'm off to bed, I hope to sleep w/ my vicked feet and kick this cold for good this weekend!!
See you all in the morning.

Hugs Deenie! You the woman!! 

I loves My BOO  - Yes keep your Socks On ...  I will find U.

nite deenie.

Nite Hunny Bunny

[Ono]

So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

Creative Finger Painting & Learning to Decorate With Playdough.

[pixiecat]

Night everyone!  Hubby needs laptop.  See you tomorrow!

[wendiw8780]

Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men!

  Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really. 

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all 

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY.

wendi

[Jerseygirl345]

So Casey gets to watch 1 hour of television per week ... what do Monkeys think she chooses for her 1 hour?

Food Channel

I can think of a couple of shows..

Lost
The Biggest Loser
Eleventh Hour
Criminal Minds
Prison Break
Numbers

[Grandma2Maddie]

Quote -Thank you.  I will get some of those ice pops.  7 months old and 6 teeth!
monkey hugs to you!

O/T Another good thing for teething is, Hylands All Natural Teething Tablets.  You can get them at Walmart, Babies R Us.  Not sure where else.  You put them under your babies tongue and it really helps.  They disolve instantly.  At leas they worked wonders for my granddaughter.

[klaasend]

Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf




Remember this?

[Jerseygirl345]

Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf




Remember this?

Interesting...

[Sea Searcher]

Welcome Lebron!!you will enjoy it here, there are some really smart & funny monkeys. just watch out for SeaSearcher! he has a kitty addiction.

been gone all day & have to go back & catch up!

wendi

LOL. Its okay, I like mature men!

  Don't pay any attention to the rumors wendi likes to start... she just a little upset since I started going to PKA meetings.. I think she misses the attention really. 

BTW...It may not be my place to say this but I couldn't help noticing that you are Nekkid...CCB or Brandi could fix you up I'm sure..nothing to elaborate, just a scarf or a hat maybe..so we can recognize you that's all 

just wanted to say tired today, had to go to the closing on house, & SINCE WE WERE RIGHT THERE, WE DECIDED TO STOP BY GRACELAND!!!! AGAIN, I GET SOOOO TIRED OF GOING TO GRACELAND, YOU KNOW ELVIS' HOME. IT JUST GETS SO DARN TIRESOME! HAD TO BUY MORE POSTCARDS & TRINKETS, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. IF ANYONE WANTS PICTURES OR POSTCARDS OF GRACELAND, JUST PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I HATE TO THROW THEM AWAY.

wendi

Now that's just cruel... Don't be cruel...

[higherhopes]

Why on June 12, 2008 was Casey searching Zenaida on Myspace AND White Pages?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf




Remember this?

Interesting...

   OMG....I think you have something there!

[cheeky monkey]

Night monkeys.

i found this and i liked it so i wanted to share:


Monkey Face
   
 
The traveler started to quicken his pace
as the sun was setting it began the race,
to find a place that was safe,
and otherwise…dry and small of space.

In jungle nights such as these
there wasn’t much left besides the trees.
That glowered eerily above his head
if he hesitated he’d soon be dead.

Grabbing the vine he held it tight
as the stalking Jaguar came into sight.
Pulling upward hand over hand—
what a relief he did not make a stand.

The stalker below paced and growled,
but found no limb or place that was sound,
to follow its prey to the treetops above.
The traveler landed and startled a dove.

After awhile he began to prepare
his bed for the night— a twisted affair.
Then laid down his head in that tiniest space,
while the bright shinny moon comforted
…his small monkey face.

Maynard Hartman 
 

[Blink34]

does baez really think him saying the public doesn't know Casey like he does is helpful to her?

Nor to him, it is ambiguous and suggests intimacy. Not like the fact that the staff at the jail had to reprimand him 7x from close personal contact on their visits before the bar steps in. WTF?

Hi Blink! I want to say how impressed I am with your research skills and sleuthing! Terrific Job!!!   

Could I ask you something? I missed that Casey didn't have a valid Driver's License on the 24th. Could you help me out and remind me of why she didn't? Thanks so much!

Sincere thanks CBB. I cannot confirm that Casey did or did not have a valid DL on 5/24, just that the driver (Zenaida) did not.

If she were posing at ZG, she would not have produced credentials in her own name anyway, imo..

Anybody remember a story in one of the interviews with one of the friends, that they couldn't get into a certain club or bar b/c Casey didn't have a valid ID?  What was the date?  (Or am I just imagining this?)

And in preparation for the July 4 party at Will Waters' place, they couldn't buy alcohol in Casey's company, b/c she did not have a valid ID, remember?  I think this was from Amy's OCSO interviews, but may have been Will's... or both, can't recall.

BTW, CBB, thank you for the Ann Rule link.  Good stuff.

Great catch Desdomona, your correct.. That info was part of why I started looking into the issue.

[Tevye]

Here's that article about the t-shirts:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8266959&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1



Anthony’s still selling missing toddler t-shirts 
 
Last Edited: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 
Created: Friday, 16 Jan 2009, 7:43 PM EST 

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.

The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.

The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.

That isn’t setting well with some people.

 “I don't think they should be profiting, I think it's wrong,” said one visitor to the makeshift memorial set up where the toddler’s remains were found.

Then there are blogs with dozens of email from folks, who say things such as " they (the Anthony’s) are sick individuals, morbid” they say since Caylee is no longer alive.

But according to Michelle Bart the woman in charge of the website, she put the message up at Cindy Anthony’s request.

“Since dr. G's announcement on December 19th,” Bart said. “I have had numerous requests still for bracelets and shirts."

The money Bart made from the items she said will go to nonprofits that helped with the search.

Bart added that said she would be talking with Cindy to see if they should close the sale. 

Is that Kathi B's station? I'm not familiar with who is on what station down there, but I did send her the info (along with a zillion other monkeys, I bet) when we saw it. Also sent it to Nancy G....but I'm sure Nance won't do anything about it.

[Ono]

How come everytime someone in this case gets caught asking for money or selling things for Money  when they are asked about it the answer to where the money is going is always uhhhhhh   the money will go to a non profit organization.............Ive heard this so much its not even funny.......you would think they could come up with something believable to say like ,,,    cancer society for children......or diabeties fondation   anything!

Maybe because they really think their own wallets are a "non profit organization"  ?