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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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April 14, 2013, 04:08:29 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on April 14, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
MISTRIAL
MIS CONDUCT
MS. WONG
I *think* that Ms. Wong will have to testify at 11 am Monday about her sources of something she
reported about the case because the Prosecutor is being accused of "leaking" evidence to the media.
(as I recall). The parents police interview etc. which was not allowed in the trial.
Again, if I recall correctly I remember I think it was Nancy Grace stated that they rec'd 600 pages
of Jodi's journal all under the Freedom of Information act.
Imo it is highly unlikely that the news shows journalists stole the information or just asked and rec'd them - they would have
gone through proper legal channels.
http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/ariasmotion2.pdf
Mistrail doc
"This State of affairs has placed counsel for Ms. Arias in a position that they cannot fulfill the duties they owe Ms. Arias, pursuant Arizona Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 6.8."
moi thinks that Defense counsel filed this motion for Jodi Arias vs State of Arizona appeals.
Above is from the mistrial doc. mentioned in Kermit's post.
It is dated April 7, 2013.
(I thought the Judge already ruled on this, but I could be wrong.)
Guess we'll find out tomorrow at 2 eastern (11 AZ time.)
I think it's just a ridiculous complaint and I think the Defense thinks its only hope is a mistrial.
JMO.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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April 14, 2013, 06:03:42 PM »
Brandi
It appears that the document which Kermit posted is a new motion filed by the defense for a mistrial. I could be wrong.
I do wish the prosecutor had not taken such an aggressive approach in questioning the so-called "expert" defense witnesses. When I listen to the talking heads on HLN ... talking heads who are advocates for Travis ... I know I am not alone.
If Juan Martinez had presented well thought out questions to the witnesses respectfully but firmly ... he could have conveyed authority without yelling. IMO
Janet
April 2, 2013 - Defense's Motion for Mistrial Denied
Judge Removes Arias Juror, Denies Mistrial
April 2, 2013
The judge in the Jodi Arias murder trial threw a juror off the case and denied a defense bid for a mistrial Tuesday as a domestic abuse expert resumed testimony about the defendant's volatile relationship with the victim.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jodi-arias-defense-lawyers-seek-mistrial-18858484
Mistrial denied, juror dismissed in Jodi Arias trial
April 2, 2013
PHOENIX -- A motion for mistrial in the Jodi Arias trial was denied Tuesday, but a juror was released for improper conduct.
According to court documents, the unidentified Juror 5 made comments to other jurors that may bias the opinion of the other jurors. It was not specified what Juror 5 said.
The documents show that the comments were made on March 28, the same day that prosecutor Juan Martinez was accused of signing autographs and posing for pictures outside of the courthouse.
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http://www.ktar.com/?sid=1623433&nid=131
April 9, 2013 - Defense Files New Motion for Mistrial?
Jodi Arias trial live video stream: Attorneys file for another mistrial, reference Salem witch trial
Posted: 04/09/2013
PHOENIX - Attorneys for Jodi Arias have filed another motion for a mistrial, claiming the prosecutor acted inappropriately and said the case resembles a modern-day equivalent to the Salem witch trials.
In the motion filed on Sunday by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmot, Arias’ defense team contends “the prosecutorial misconduct has infested these proceedings with a level of unfairness that cannot be cured by any others means.” ....
The defense team filed the motion before the start of Monday’s trial. The judge did not address the motion in court, although the judge has already rejected a similar motion.
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http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/jodi-arias-trial-live-video-stream-attorneys-file-for-another-mistrial-reference-salem-witch-trial
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM »
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
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April 14, 2013, 06:19:50 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 14, 2013, 06:03:42 PM
Brandi
It appears that the document which Kermit posted is a new motion filed by the defense for a mistrial.
I could be wrong.
I do wish the prosecutor had not taken such an aggressive approach in questioning the so-called "expert" defense witnesses. When I listen to the talking heads on HLN ... talking heads who are advocates for Travis ... I know I am not alone.
If Juan Martinez had presented well thought out questions to the witnesses respectfully but firmly ... he could have conveyed authority without yelling. IMO
Janet
April 2, 2013 - Defense's Motion for Mistrial Denied
Judge Removes Arias Juror, Denies Mistrial
April 2, 2013
The judge in the Jodi Arias murder trial threw a juror off the case and denied a defense bid for a mistrial Tuesday as a domestic abuse expert resumed testimony about the defendant's volatile relationship with the victim.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jodi-arias-defense-lawyers-seek-mistrial-18858484
Mistrial denied, juror dismissed in Jodi Arias trial
April 2, 2013
PHOENIX -- A motion for mistrial in the Jodi Arias trial was denied Tuesday, but a juror was released for improper conduct.
According to court documents, the unidentified Juror 5 made comments to other jurors that may bias the opinion of the other jurors. It was not specified what Juror 5 said.
The documents show that the comments were made on March 28, the same day that prosecutor Juan Martinez was accused of signing autographs and posing for pictures outside of the courthouse.
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http://www.ktar.com/?sid=1623433&nid=131
April 9, 2013 - Defense Files New Motion for Mistrial?
Jodi Arias trial live video stream: Attorneys file for another mistrial, reference Salem witch trial
Posted: 04/09/2013
PHOENIX - Attorneys for Jodi Arias have filed another motion for a mistrial, claiming the prosecutor acted inappropriately and said the case resembles a modern-day equivalent to the Salem witch trials.
In the motion filed on Sunday by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmot, Arias’ defense team contends “the prosecutorial misconduct has infested these proceedings with a level of unfairness that cannot be cured by any others means.” ....
The defense team filed the motion before the start of Monday’s trial. The judge did not address the motion in court, although the judge has already rejected a similar motion.
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http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/jodi-arias-trial-live-video-stream-attorneys-file-for-another-mistrial-reference-salem-witch-trial
Janet, the image I posted is from Kermit's pdf. URL and is dated April 7, 2013.
Not sure where the confusion is.
BBM and coloured green by me.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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Quote from: Blonde on April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
I thought that comment from her was inappropriate, along with the comment, "Mr. Martinez, are you angry at
(sic)
me?"
I feel Alyce is a seasoned court expert witness and should have known not to behave that way.
Just my opinion.
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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April 14, 2013, 06:38:19 PM »
Quote from: Blonde on April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
Blonde
Juan Martinez's approach to the questioning of the defense witnesses may be open to debate but that does not justify Alyce Laviolette's disrespect. If Martinez is to be reprimanded ... there is a judicial procedure for defence attorneys to take. IMO.
Janet
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Re: Travis Alexander of Mesa, AZ Found Murdered June 2008-Jodi Arias on Trial
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April 14, 2013, 06:50:47 PM »
Quote from: Blonde on April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
Alyce is an idiot
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Quote from: Brandi on April 14, 2013, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: Blonde on April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
I thought that comment from her was inappropriate, along with the comment, "Mr. Martinez, are you angry at
(sic)
me?"
I feel Alyce is a seasoned court expert witness and should have known not to behave that way.
Just my opinion.
IMO Alyce is used to having the upper hand with men in her counseling groups so she felt comfortable making these condescending statements to the prosecutor. She has the power over men who meet with her who have been accused of being or are abusers and I imagine over the years she has, without even being aware of it, come to be conditioned to see any man acting assertively as being abusive, ie... needing a time out.
I believe people can be assertive, talk quickly, be direct, and even be angry without needing a time out. We don't all need to be calm and peaceful all the time. I'm not saying we should bully or be aggressive (different from assertive) but it's okay to be passionate, especially about a man's murder.
That said, Juan definitely bullied Richard Samuels but I do not believe he has been as aggressive with Alyce LaViolette. JMO anyway.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 14, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: Blonde on April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
Blonde
Juan Martinez's approach to the questioning of the defense witnesses may be open to debate but that does not justify Alyce Laviolette's disrespect. If Martinez is to be reprimanded ... there is a judicial procedure for defence attorneys to take. IMO.
Janet
Totally agree. She was out of line.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on April 14, 2013, 07:05:47 PM
Quote from: Brandi on April 14, 2013, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: Blonde on April 14, 2013, 06:12:22 PM
That's why Alyce Laviolette said something like Mr Martinez your acting like one of my patients.
I think you need a time out..
I thought that comment from her was inappropriate, along with the comment, "Mr. Martinez, are you angry at
(sic)
me?"
I feel Alyce is a seasoned court expert witness and should have known not to behave that way.
Just my opinion.
IMO Alyce is used to having the upper hand with men in her counseling groups so she felt comfortable making these condescending statements to the prosecutor. She has the power over men who meet with her who have been accused of being or are abusers and I imagine over the years she has, without even being aware of it, come to be conditioned to see any man acting assertively as being abusive, ie... needing a time out.
I believe people can be assertive, talk quickly, be direct, and even be angry without needing a time out. We don't all need to be calm and peaceful all the time. I'm not saying we should bully or be aggressive (different from assertive) but it's okay to be passionate, especially about a man's murder.
That said, Juan definitely bullied Richard Samuels but I do not believe he has been as aggressive with Alyce LaViolette. JMO anyway.
Well said!
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Ms. Grace Wong, employed by Turner Broadcasting as a senior field representative was the first witness called this morning (without the jury present.) She was asked by Nurmi if she witnessed the prosecutor "being treated as a celebrity" and signing autographs. She responded in the affirmative.
She was also asked which jurors she recognizes and can place faces with their numbers. After naming many jurors' numbers, she said, "most of them."
The prosecution had no questions.
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Quote from: Brandi on April 15, 2013, 01:16:55 PM
Ms. Grace Wong, employed by Turner Broadcasting as a senior field representative was the first witness called this morning (without the jury present.) She was asked by Nurmi if she witnessed the prosecutor "being treated as a celebrity" and signing autographs. She responded in the affirmative.
She was also asked which jurors she recognizes and can place faces with their numbers. After naming many jurors' numbers, she said, "most of them."
The prosecution had no questions.
Also she answered Nurmi that she did not see any jurors witness the incident with Martinez.
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Bryan Neumeister (audio/video forensic examiner) was up next and asked by Nurmi about his video enhancement and enlargement experience.
I think he will be asked about the reflection seen by some in Travis's eye in one photograph.
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I think this is what they are talking about now
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Why is the defense bring this up
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I'm confused it looks like Jodi we know she was taking pictures why is the prosecution
not wanting this in?
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Quote from: Blonde on April 15, 2013, 02:09:40 PM
I'm confused it looks like Jodi we know she was taking pictures why is the prosecution
not wanting this in?
I'm confused too, Blonde. I love how they drew the legs in to make it look more like a person. This doesn't really seem like it's going to go anywhere.
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Quote from: Amys Sister on April 15, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
Quote from: Blonde on April 15, 2013, 02:09:40 PM
I'm confused it looks like Jodi we know she was taking pictures why is the prosecution
not wanting this in?
I'm confused too, Blonde. I love how they drew the legs in to make it look more like a person. This doesn't really seem like it's going to go anywhere.
Nurmi is explaining that he thinks it shows she doesn't have a gun nor knife in her hands I think.. Just holding the camera.
Honestly I work with Photoshop in my profession (graphic designer) and the Magnetic Lasso tool isn't reliable nor a scientific tool for creating outlines like this witness did. Especially when it is just different color blacks. We rarely use it and only as a shortcut when there is a clear difference between the object and the background. There are also ways to guide it to include points that you want to.
The Magnetic Lasso Tool just basically finds a color/texture and as you move your cursor around the object it stays with like-colors so its basically outlining the item. However on a pupil with various shades of black I would say it is useless without already knowing what you want to show beforehand.
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===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
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