Natalee Holloway Case Discussion #860 8/28/11 - 10/16/11

[texasmom]

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[Tamikosmom]

An Appeal?

Considering Beth only had two weeks notice of Dave's intentions ... could it be that an appeal of the judge's denial for a delay in proceedings be forthcoming?

Janet

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Natalee Holloway's Mom Still Hoping She Is Alive
Sept. 23, 2011

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Kelly and the girl's mother, Beth Holloway, did not attend a court hearing today on a petition brought by Natalee's father Dave Holloway to have her declared dead. Beth Holloway and Kelly had previously scheduled travel plans.

"We had made an application for an adjournment so we could have Beth there to testify and to prepare proper opposition for evidence for the court hearing," Kelly said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/natalee-holloways-mom-clings-hope-daughter-alive/story?id=14591709

Beth Holloway opposes petition to declare Natalee dead
Posted: Sep 22, 2011 12:42 PM PDT
Updated: Sep 22, 2011 12:47 PM PDT

BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) - Beth Holloway will oppose the petition filed by Dave Holloway to declare their daughter Natalee legally dead, said Beth Holloway's spokesperson Sunny Tillman on Thursday.

Dave Holloway filed a petition in a Jefferson County probate court in June 2011 to have his daughter declared legally dead. The petition will be heard in probate court in Birmingham tomorrow.

"Beth intends to oppose Dave's inexplicable effort to have Natalee declared dead," her attorney John Q. Kelly said today, according to a release sent by Tillman.

"Beth gave birth to and raised Natalee, and will always hope and pray for Natalee's safe return. If Dave seeks closure on such a personal and sensitive matter, it should be respected, but not imposed upon Beth in such an adversarial and public manner," Kelly said

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http://www.wsfa.com/story/15526985/beth-holloway-opposes-petition-to-declare-natalee-dead


Jefferson County judge rules request to officially declare Natalee Holloway dead may proceed (video)
Published: Friday, September 23, 2011, 3:17 PM
Updated: Friday, September 23, 2011, 4:12 PM

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King ordered two notices to be published in a local newspaper seeking proof that Holloway is still alive. A hearing will be held at least 12 weeks after that for King to make the final official determination if she is alive.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/09/jefferson_county_judge_rules_r.html

[Tamikosmom]

Jefferson County judge rules request to officially declare Natalee Holloway dead may proceed (video)
Published: Friday, September 23, 2011, 3:17 PM
Updated: Friday, September 23, 2011, 4:12 PM

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Testifying for about 45 minutes this morning, Dave Holloway described the months-long search for his missing daughter in Aruba. Based on statements by the prime suspect in the case, Joran van der Sloot, the father believes his daughter is dead, Dave Holloway testified today.

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http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/09/jefferson_county_judge_rules_r.html

[Tamikosmom]

In the "Balcony", "Range Rover", "Above Ground Tomb" and "Extortion" confessions ... Joran claims that Natalee was deceased when he left her on the morning of May 30, 2005.

However in the "I Left Natalee at the Beach" and the "I Sold Natalee" confessions Joran claims when he last saw Natalee she was alive.

Considering that not one word that spews forth from Joran's lips can be believed ...Dave's testimony needs to be challenged.  IMO

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I left Natalee at the Beach

Transcript: Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record,' Part 1
Wednesday, March 01, 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186581,00.html

Transcript: Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record,' Part 2
Friday, March 03, 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186707,00.html

Transcript: Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record,' Part 3
Monday, March 06, 2006
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186880,00.html


I Sold Natalee

Transcript:  Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story
Tuesday, November 25, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html

Transcript:  Fallout From Joran van der Sloot's 'On the Record' Interview[/b
Wednesday, November 26, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457715,00.html

[grace-land]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10653060/__Joran_heeft_suikertante__.html?sn=binnenland

Google translation

Sat October 1, 2011, 05:30
Joran aunt by John van den Heuvel

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot will receive more than one year large sums of money from a wealthy female doctor from America.

The woman made ​​the past few months tens of thousands of dollars to Van der Sloot, his mother Anita and his Peruvian lawyers Altez and Jimenez.

According to a survey by this newspaper. The woman, a radiologist from Florida named Mary Hamer, the newspaper confirmed yesterday against the outstanding payments to Van der Sloot.

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[texasmom]

hmmm...wonder what that's all about.

She's says she not related to Joran, or in love with him.  So why is she sending all that money?

[texasmom]

Dr. Mary Hamer


Diagnostic Radiology


Female    - 25 years experience
Vamc
619 S Marion Ave
Lake City, FL


Read more: http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Mary_Hamer.html#ixzz1ZVXUDJy0

[texasmom]

 ::justice2NJ::

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[texasmom]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10654273/__De_suikertante_van_Joran__.html

Google translation:

[texasmom]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10653060/__Joran_heeft_suikertante__.html

Babel fish translation:

za 01 okt 2011, 05:30 | read

Joran have sugar aunt

by John of pine hillock

LIMA - Joran of of the ditch receive already largely a year large money amounts of a rich female doctor from America. The woman produced the previous months tienduizenden dollars of of the ditch, its mother Anita and is Peruvian lawyers Altez and Jimenez. That becomes clear from a research of this newspaper. The woman, a radiologist Florida hammer, confirmed yesterday compared with this newspaper the remarkable payments to Mary called to of of the ditch. She says no have relation with the Dutchman and also not amorous on him to be.

[klaasend]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/10654273/__De_suikertante_van_Joran__.html

Google translation:

Wonder if she is friends with Renfro's family?

http://www.lifescript.com/Doctor-directory/internal-medicine/lake-city-florida-fl-mary-m-hamer-md.aspx

Mary M Hamer MD
Internal Medicine
Lake City , FL
Female

[Jonathan45]

Dr Mary Hamer essay about 'prisons, cages and human suffering'

http://www.countercurrents.org/hamer160810.htm

[klaasend]

http://escapinghmi.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=97&sid=e1750b5ff4815b983d21c93e7828db02

Mary Hamer said.. 7/10/10.
Dear President Obama: RE: Beth Holloway/Twitty, Illegal Vigilante Justice & Predatory Adults.*PRESIDENT OBAMA PLEASE INVESTIGATE: Please investigate the possible Illegal Entrapment by the FBI & Beth Holloway/Twitty & Mr. Kelly of Mr. Joran Van der Sloot. 1. Please investigate the Malicious statement Beth Twitty made to Greta Van Sustren on 11/19/2008: “It’s never too late for justice. & I’d be good with a Midnight Express prison anywhere for Joran”. Did Ms. Twitty, Mr. Kelly & the FBI conspire in a pre-meditated plot to Entrap Mr. Van der Sloot (via a poker tournament) in a dangerous Midnight Express prison like Miguel Castro Castro n Lima Peru? Did predatory adults maliciously Entrap a young adult with PTSD?

2.Please investigate & find out who wrote the Criminally threatening & Cyberstalking e-mail to Mr. Van der Sloot on 5/30/10 that stated: “I’m going to kill you”. Did the FBI, Ms. Holloway/Twitty or Attorney Kelly make a Criminal Death threat?

3. Please put a restraining order on the FBI, Ms. Twitty & her agents regarding Mr. Van der Sloot & his right to safety & human dignity

4. Please ban Ms. Twitty from making any more Malicious statements on the Greta Van Sustren or Nancy Grace TV shows.

5. Is Beth Twitty a dangerous, vindictive person who Intends to Harm other people? Mr. Van der Sloot has Never had the intent to harm anyone.

6. Does Ms. Twitty have the right to pursue her own form of Cruel vigilante justice?*PRESIDENT OBAMA Please report your findings of the above questions to Peruvian President Garcia*RECOMMENDATION: CRIME VIGILANTE JUSTICE

1. As a result of the possible Illegal Entrapment by the FBI & Beth Twitty & M Kelly of Mr. Joran Van der Sloot – I am recommending a New International Rule titled

*THE CRIME OF VIGILANTE JUSTICE or The Crime of Revenge – Whereby No private citizen, nor any government has the right to seek their own form of Vigilante justice -- Outside of the established Rule of Law & Legal system.

*If a person, such as Ms. Twitty, has a grievance with a country’s/state’s Rule Law or execution of justice by the legal system, then that person needs to follow Non-violent methods of protest & follow that country’s Consitition/ Charter regarding methods of instituting change in the system.



If a person d not like the Rule of Law, the legal system of the country/state involved or methods of protest & enacting change -- Then that person needs to leave the old state & find a new country to live in.

2.I am also recommending another New International Rule titled*THE CRIME of PREDATORY ADULTS Who Target Children & Young Adults. Whereby No Adult has the right to Criminally Threaten, Harass, Stalk or Cyberstalk a Child or Young Adult.

In other words, No Adult has the right to do these Predatory acts to anyone who is 25 years of age or younger. Children & Young adults are vulnerable to Predatory adults with Pre-Meditation that have a Malicious Intent to harm.

Children & young adult’s brains, executive centers & decision-making centers are still developing.*President Obama Pleae protect the children from predatory adults with malicious, pre-meditated intent to harm. Please protect the children from predatory adults who seek vigilante justice. Thank you.

Respectfully, Mary Hamer, M.D.

http://www.justiceforjoran.com/2010/06/jorans-mental-state.html

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Joran van der Sloot – received thousands of dollars from radiologist from Florida named Mary Hamer


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LIMA – Joran van der Sloot  received more than 1 year large sums of money from a wealthy female doctor from USA.

Dr. Mary Hamer ( Diagnostic Radiology  25 years experience ) Lake City, payd ​​the past few months thousands of dollars to Van der Sloot, his mother Anita and his Peruvian lawyers Altez and Jimenez.

Mary Hamer,  sayd  she had no relationship with the Joran van der Sloot, nor does she love him.

Is there a connection between Natalee Holloway,Joran van der sloot and Dr. Mary Hamer??? look at the pictures amazing similarity between the doctor and Natalee Holloway.

[texasmom]

 

http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2668/Buitenland/article/detail/2940265/2011/10/01/Suikertante-voorziet-Joran-van-tienduizenden-dollars.dhtml

Google translation:

Aunt Sugar provides tens of thousands of Joran

Reuters / Editorial - 01/10/11, 09:47

Joran van der Sloot has been receiving large sums of money provided one year of a wealthy American woman. She made the last few months tens of thousands of dollars to Van der Sloot, his mother and lawyers who assist him in Peru.

The woman confirms the payments to The Guardian. She says no relationship with him and him alone to know from the publicity.

She would like to help him because they think there is a conspiracy against Van der Sloot is in progress.

[klaasend]

http://www.crimesite.nl/dossier/joran/22042-joran-heeft-suikertante-in-de-vs.html

Thru google translator:

[klaasend]

Wonder what her RU nickname is 

[texasmom]

Wonder what her RU nickname is 

 

[San]

 

[texasmom]

Wow, she drank all the Anita kool-aid didn't she!