Caylee Marie Anthony #102 4/01/09 - 4/04/09

[no rose colored glasses]

Because I'm very busy and don't have much time...are there any updates on GA's location? Is he still in the same facility as far as we know? TIA

Did he watch the Super Bowl...surely that must have made headlines somewhere

I remember reading somewhere that he will probably be released today, where he is going I don't know.

[dogmom4]

Hi All,
seems pretty slow for news lately. Has anyone heard any latest news about George and when he will be released back home to crazy Cindy? Poor guy, hes probably begging to stay right where he is.

[TURBOTHINK]

Something has been bothering me from the beginning of this case that I need to get off my mind.  In the interview below…note how she said “That I still – I don’t know where she is”.  Whenever I hear that…I go back to Cindy saying there is always an ounce of truth in all her lies.  So…what if she wasn’t the one that dumped Caylee’s body and at this point in the investigation she really, honestly didn’t know where Caylee’s body was.  This means that there is an accomplice that disposed of Caylee and hadn’t gotten a chance to tell Casey where she was yet.  Or maybe whoever it was never told Casey, since Caylee was so close, because he/she didn’t want Casey to inadvertently draw attention to the spot?!?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Pretty much everything that you`ve told me, including where Caylee is right now.
CASEY ANTHONY: That I still -- I don`t know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure, you do. And here`s...
CASEY ANTHONY: I absolutely do not...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Listen to me. Let...
CASEY ANTHONY: ... know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This stuff about Zanny the caretaker or the nanny taking care of...
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s the truth.

Another thing that has bothered me is all the escort searches she did.  Maybe, just maybe she was an escort and Caylee stayed at some daycare they set up at the brothel so the mothers can go and “work”.  What if something happened to Caylee there and they disposed of Caylee close to Casey’s home to point blame on her? 

I know these scenarios might be “out there” but I needed to get them off of my mind. 

I still lean towards the scenario that Casey killed Caylee the night of the 15th after her fight with Cindy.  I think she was so hyped up that Cindy put her hands on her that she exploded on the only person she could…Caylee. 

I have always suspected there was an accomplice who disposed of the body, but it would have to be someone as cruel as KC to just dump it like that. (although it might have been in a shallow grave and washed up with the hurricane waters)

I sure hope there are not two sociopaths with no feeling for a baby.  It could be possible I guess, as that guy who sold car parts he didn't own and rented houses he didn't own didn't seem to care about other people.

[no rose colored glasses]

Something has been bothering me from the beginning of this case that I need to get off my mind.  In the interview below…note how she said “That I still – I don’t know where she is”.  Whenever I hear that…I go back to Cindy saying there is always an ounce of truth in all her lies.  So…what if she wasn’t the one that dumped Caylee’s body and at this point in the investigation she really, honestly didn’t know where Caylee’s body was.  This means that there is an accomplice that disposed of Caylee and hadn’t gotten a chance to tell Casey where she was yet.  Or maybe whoever it was never told Casey, since Caylee was so close, because he/she didn’t want Casey to inadvertently draw attention to the spot?!?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Pretty much everything that you`ve told me, including where Caylee is right now.
CASEY ANTHONY: That I still -- I don`t know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure, you do. And here`s...
CASEY ANTHONY: I absolutely do not...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Listen to me. Let...
CASEY ANTHONY: ... know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This stuff about Zanny the caretaker or the nanny taking care of...
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s the truth.

Another thing that has bothered me is all the escort searches she did.  Maybe, just maybe she was an escort and Caylee stayed at some daycare they set up at the brothel so the mothers can go and “work”.  What if something happened to Caylee there and they disposed of Caylee close to Casey’s home to point blame on her? 

I know these scenarios might be “out there” but I needed to get them off of my mind. 

I still lean towards the scenario that Casey killed Caylee the night of the 15th after her fight with Cindy.  I think she was so hyped up that Cindy put her hands on her that she exploded on the only person she could…Caylee. 

I wondered about that also, but who would it be, I sure don't think any of her friends, so George or Lee. Myself I just can't picture George throwing Caylee like garbage anywhere, and Lee I feel he is up to his eyeballs covering for his sister, I just can't picture him throwing Caylee like trash either. I totally agree with you that Casey killed Caylee after that fight, I'm just not sure where, was it at home, I doubt that. Maybe if it is true about Casey being seen in a motel parking lot she killed Caylee there.

[Sassycat]

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

This is interesting.  Especially if Sara is actually Joy!!     

[VinceVixen]

  I hate I missed #3.
I hope we get some news today.

I haven't seen one of those things in gotta be 20 yrs...

We still have GA in treatment facility and the chance of more arrests..other than that, I don't know what other news could be coming...maybe another doc dump...even the Tabloids will probably be dropping the story soon..
It's gonna be a long year waiting..

Good morning everyone.      Hanging out in Joy's chat was hilarious.   I'm still laughing.
I haven't touched a bong in 30 years - we used to make our own out of bamboo.   

I watch some of Joy's chat last night... I bopped in this morning (she's gone to doctor w/son now) and Joy was saying that her children were threatened last night...something about putting them in a bag like Caylee (sick)...anyway, she has their IP and has contacted LE who is looking for them (her words).

I didn't see any of that while I was on her chat last night (I was only on for a little while).

Did anyone else see anything like what she's talking about this morning?  The only thing that was odd to me was that she kept asking a particular poster for their first name....

nobody even mentioned her kids!!! maybe it was her alter ego SARA!!!!! seriously, i don't hink she would want LE to read what she wrote!! her kids would be gone for sure!! PLUS, since she is a Secret Agent Woman with the FBI, she doesn't really need LE. lol

wendi

umm, with her being the head case she has shown she is, now may be the best time for DCF to step in and get her children to safety before there is another "abduction" just like the KC case where the children are found in just the manner JW says someone "threatened" to do... I do not trust her... would not trust her with my plants let alone children... ugggg

Also.. after that SM guy was saying all those nasty things to Joy... She wrote: Lee go away.... I dunno if she was trying to imply that was who was threatening her or what... But anyway... I was on her site last night and asked her if she thought Casey lies.. and she said that Casey can lie SOME??? SOME??? Uh, now i know she is full of **ish... (BTW i was NOT the SM person being nasty)...

[no rose colored glasses]

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

This is interesting.  Especially if Sara is actually Joy!!     

I went back and read through a lot of Joy's chat, something that caught my eye was she was calling Tony the devil, I'm wondering if Joy and Cindy communicate, if perhaps the defense is going to try and go after Tony. Or she is just plain nuts.

[no rose colored glasses]

VinceVixen..I saw that also, Casey only lies some, if you read further back she is saying Tony made her do things she did not want to do, and that he hated Caylee.

[Hudsunn]

I don't think Casey had started in the escort business.  I think she may have been thinking about it, though, as a way to support herself once she left the Anthony household.  Remember, she told Amy that she was going to get the Anthony house when Cindy and George divorced.  Casey claimed Cindy had promised to "sign it over to her" which means Casey would pick up the payments.  I still think Casey had a plan to get rid of her parents.  The house would have been a perfect place to run an escort business, right there in suburbia.  Or she might have thought it would be. 

If she had already started that business, the cops should have some proof of it, and I think it would have come out by now.  I remember the case of the woman in Grand Junction, Colorado, who disappeared.  She was running an escort service.  Casey may have gotten the idea from that story, or from others about young women who make big bucks as escorts to put themselves through college.

As far as I am concerned, the story about Casey being spotted in a motel parking lot is not fact, but rumor.  It could be true but I have seen no proof of that. 

Most "escorts" run their own businesses and are not in "brothels."  They are not run of the mill prostitutes who walk the streets at night or camp out in motels during the day.  They have a more select clientele and try to operate under the radar, from what I have heard.

However, the questions asked by the cops about STDs are intriguing.  If Casey were involved with a pimp and was a prostitute, and somehow Caylee got hurt in the process, I doubt a pimp or other criminal would dump her in such an obvious spot.  They would put her where she would never be found, such as in the ocean.  The crime scene and the items with Caylee indicate an amateur, not a pro.  No criminal would take the time to wrap the child in a favorite blanket or put a heart sticker on the tape.  I think a criminal would dispose of the child quickly and very thoroughly, and they would not want anything to lead back to them or to Casey, if she worked for them.

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http://crimesleuths.ning.com/forum/topics/is-todd-black-really-lee

Is Todd Black Really Lee Anthony?
•   Posted by Moderator on February 1, 2009 at 11:28pm in Breaking News & Rumors

There is a rumor circulating around that Press Media Corps spokesperson Todd Black, the PR guy who only talks to people on the phone and admits that "Todd Black" is not his real name. Might actually be Lee Anthony or an associate of Lee Anthony's. This could also be a connection to Kronk the meter reader. There is a massive investigation going on now to determine the real identity of Todd Black. He has also been linked to the name Gil Cabot, Silvercreek Entertainment, and even Fox News Corp. I think the jury is still out on this one, but it would be nice to know who the real Todd Black is.

I may be giving LA more credit than he is due, but I don't believe him to be that illiterate.

Todd Black is someone who has NO command of the English language and has like Michelle Bart, about a 5th grade education.  That Milstead guy with KFN also is almost an illiterate, so it could be him on the phone with people.

[klaasend]

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

There are no HEAD TES people that live in Florida, they all are in Texas...she is FOS on that one.  There could be TES volunteers, people that volunteered to search for Caylee that think they know more than LE.  There is a reason LE thanked Tim Miller and not Leonard Padilla.

[VinceVixen]

VinceVixen..I saw that also, Casey only lies some, if you read further back she is saying Tony made her do things she did not want to do, and that he hated Caylee.

Yes I saw that too... I said that Tony cannot make Casey DO ANYTHING she did not want to... She chose to kill her kid so SHE could have a "better" life without responsibilites... I really don't think Tony would have wanted her to actually KILL Caylee... Maybe just find time so they could be alone together... But Casey wanted that time to be ALWAYS... I BLAME CASEY 100% for everything...

[no rose colored glasses]

I don't think Casey was an escort either, yes if it was Casey looking at those escort sites maybe it was something she was looking into doing. The motel parking lot that LP was talking about, my take was that after the fight she ended up there and was pacing the lot. Now, my thoughts would be it must be close to the Anthony's house, because I think cell phone pings were in that area. The cell phone pings I am not real clear on, but I'm sure someone here can verify about the pings that evening/early morning of the 15-16 of June.

[no rose colored glasses]

Does anyone have the link to that BB11 Blog? tia

[Searching]

  I hate I missed #3.
I hope we get some news today.

I haven't seen one of those things in gotta be 20 yrs...

We still have GA in treatment facility and the chance of more arrests..other than that, I don't know what other news could be coming...maybe another doc dump...even the Tabloids will probably be dropping the story soon..
It's gonna be a long year waiting..

Good morning everyone.      Hanging out in Joy's chat was hilarious.   I'm still laughing.
I haven't touched a bong in 30 years - we used to make our own out of bamboo.   

I watch some of Joy's chat last night... I bopped in this morning (she's gone to doctor w/son now) and Joy was saying that her children were threatened last night...something about putting them in a bag like Caylee (sick)...anyway, she has their IP and has contacted LE who is looking for them (her words).

I didn't see any of that while I was on her chat last night (I was only on for a little while).

Did anyone else see anything like what she's talking about this morning?  The only thing that was odd to me was that she kept asking a particular poster for their first name....

nobody even mentioned her kids!!! maybe it was her alter ego SARA!!!!! seriously, i don't hink she would want LE to read what she wrote!! her kids would be gone for sure!! PLUS, since she is a Secret Agent Woman with the FBI, she doesn't really need LE. lol

wendi

umm, with her being the head case she has shown she is, now may be the best time for DCF to step in and get her children to safety before there is another "abduction" just like the KC case where the children are found in just the manner JW says someone "threatened" to do... I do not trust her... would not trust her with my plants let alone children... ugggg

Also.. after that SM guy was saying all those nasty things to Joy... She wrote: Lee go away.... I dunno if she was trying to imply that was who was threatening her or what... But anyway... I was on her site last night and asked her if she thought Casey lies.. and she said that Casey can lie SOME??? SOME??? Uh, now i know she is full of **ish... (BTW i was NOT the SM person being nasty)...

Many have suspected that Joy was a plant for the defense.. so I would not be surprised if they are not using her to lay the ground work to point fingers at LA as well as AL and anyone else they think they can.

[Sassycat]

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

There are no HEAD TES people that live in Florida, they all are in Texas...she is FOS on that one.  There could be TES volunteers, people that volunteered to search for Caylee that think they know more than LE.  There is a reason LE thanked Tim Miller and not Leonard Padilla.

I agree.   She is a waste of time and a big liar. 

[Sassycat]

Does anyone have the link to that BB11 Blog? tia

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=306247503&blogID=456420348

here you go.

[TURBOTHINK]

I went to sara site.
Casey chloroformed Caylee in the parking lot of motel at 1:00 am on 16th
3 head people from TES forming their own search team because they are tired of TM badmouthing LP
Someone led Kronk to the body in September (I think it was Sept?)
Um ... Most of the info comes from Tracy - girl with LP - living in the house ..
Sara had all sorts of insight ... 

There are no HEAD TES people that live in Florida, they all are in Texas...she is FOS on that one.  There could be TES volunteers, people that volunteered to search for Caylee that think they know more than LE.  There is a reason LE thanked Tim Miller and not Leonard Padilla.

I think she was referring to that "drunken cowboy" who told everyone he was a big dog with TES. I know she defended him

[Sassycat]

Does anyone have the link to that BB11 Blog? tia

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=306247503&blogID=456420348

here you go.

Opps.  I take that back.   That is another blog site - not the one you're looking for.   The one you're looking for is private now.  Here is her myspace page, though.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=54234635

Sorry.

[JOLfan]

Something has been bothering me from the beginning of this case that I need to get off my mind.  In the interview below…note how she said “That I still – I don’t know where she is”.  Whenever I hear that…I go back to Cindy saying there is always an ounce of truth in all her lies.  So…what if she wasn’t the one that dumped Caylee’s body and at this point in the investigation she really, honestly didn’t know where Caylee’s body was.  This means that there is an accomplice that disposed of Caylee and hadn’t gotten a chance to tell Casey where she was yet.  Or maybe whoever it was never told Casey, since Caylee was so close, because he/she didn’t want Casey to inadvertently draw attention to the spot?!?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Pretty much everything that you`ve told me, including where Caylee is right now.
CASEY ANTHONY: That I still -- I don`t know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure, you do. And here`s...
CASEY ANTHONY: I absolutely do not...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Listen to me. Let...
CASEY ANTHONY: ... know where she is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This stuff about Zanny the caretaker or the nanny taking care of...
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s the truth.

Another thing that has bothered me is all the escort searches she did.  Maybe, just maybe she was an escort and Caylee stayed at some daycare they set up at the brothel so the mothers can go and “work”.  What if something happened to Caylee there and they disposed of Caylee close to Casey’s home to point blame on her? 

I know these scenarios might be “out there” but I needed to get them off of my mind. 

I still lean towards the scenario that Casey killed Caylee the night of the 15th after her fight with Cindy.  I think she was so hyped up that Cindy put her hands on her that she exploded on the only person she could…Caylee. 

I have always suspected there was an accomplice who disposed of the body, but it would have to be someone as cruel as KC to just dump it like that. (although it might have been in a shallow grave and washed up with the hurricane waters)

I sure hope there are not two sociopaths with no feeling for a baby.  It could be possible I guess, as that guy who sold car parts he didn't own and rented houses he didn't own didn't seem to care about other people.

I never thought about a shallow grave disolved by the water. That is a good thought.

I don't know who you are refering to about selling car parts and renting houses that didn't belong to him...but that is just terrible!