MIP6 and REALITY - are they part of the disinformation team?

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Geraldo, there's a group of people, individuals on the island, reporters, disgruntled aruban police investigators and the privately operated tourism department that are engaged in a disinformation campaign in an attempt to minimize Natalee's disappearance on Aruba's image and tourism.

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Posted today at BFN - MIP6 seems very angry this morning  

MIP6 wrote:
The fact remains……………if you like it or not, she was drinking 151 on her own long before doing shots at C&C………..the fact remains…………..she was so hammered she had to be helped back to her room the night before.
I do not care to change anyone’s mind………..you are entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts however.

Ya see some of you are still stuck on, she doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke….blah blah blah from the first few days……..when the FACT remains that neither was correct. What else wasn’t correct that was stated early on?

Granny Toad responds to MIP6:

Shame on you.


Granny Toad responds to MIP6:

So, MIP6, your position is that the victim drank and drugged herself to death then disappeared herself, the suspects and those who aided with the coverup are without blame, and that is good for Aruban tourism and should bring back the US tourists' Dollars, yes?

Please don't return to the US. We've evolved here and except for the criminal element and a few of low intelligence under-evolved humans do not blame the victim for murder or other crimes against them.

Do not bother to tell me that there was no homicide since that's what the suspects were being criminally investigated for - and most remain suspects. I'm one who paid attention. I'm one in whose posts you will not find those claims you pretend are your excuse.
Stuff that BLAME THE VICTIM and VICTIMIZE THE VICTIM's FAMILY BY DEROGATION crap back where you got it.

MIP6

[Easywriter]

This link has a pretty good record of MIP's BS.

http://truth4natalee.s3.bizhat.com/truth4natalee-ftopic323.html

[Tamikosmom]

Dave Holloway
Geraldo At Large
July 21, 2007

DAVE: Geraldo, there's a group of people, individuals on the island, reporters, disgruntled aruban police investigators and the privately operated tourism department that are engaged in a disinformation campaign in an attempt …

GERALDO : And this is part of it Dave

HOLLOWAY: Yeah, they're in an attempt to minimize Natalee's disappearance on Aruba's image and tourism …

Transcript Credit: Heli - RU


MARK PURCELL/MIP6 - RESPONSE
July 21, 2007

"Well i guess my days of helping have come to an end if this is truly how Dave feels. I guess providing information that goes against the grain of what the 'family' wants to be true is considered miss-information. Cool...finished/done."

[Kermit]

Natalee at Carlos n' Charlie's BEFORE Joran and Kalpoe brothers took her





NATALEE BEFORE CARLOS N' CHARLIES

[Nut44x4]

Post at BFN asking:
Joran said he left her in very good condition on the beach. So how do we get from that to massive OD of cocaine, even to knowing the drug used?  Maybe those making this claim have firsthand knowledge and were there themselves.  Maybe they were eyewitnesses to this otherwise how could they possibly know any such thing for a fact as stated.


MIP6 replys 7-23-07

How about she made it back it the HI, she partied with her friends, one has now admitted to giving her a massive line of cocaine and going swimming with her, except she didn’t return and the other MB’er did, filled with remorse they have spilled their guts.
Hey relax, I am just posting along the same fantasy line as your whole post is in regards to Aruba.



(Why is he such an asshole?)

[Easywriter]

Because he has a sweet deal in Aruba and doesn't want anyone messing that up for him.  Why Dave and Robin trust the guy is the bigger question.

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1. JULIA

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=638.msg6137#msg6137


Julie has always been and continues to be a good editor in my book. No personal agenda that I see coming from her paper.

 


2. JULIA

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=1420.msg31144#msg31144


The rife between Beth & Julia has nothing to do with economics, find a copy of the VF article, the complete article, and you can read for yourself WHY the relationship soured

 


3. BETH AND MEDIA

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Lets see putting BHT on a teleconference for a formal interview into the investigation of her missing daughter OK that works. I think not. I for one would like to see BHT return to Aruba and have ALE pick her up and have her brought in for a little 24 hour discussion about all of her allegations of false/tampered statements, corruption/cover up in ALE & the government, a little of, so Beth now tell use again exactly how you came into possession of statements given by a suspect in this investigation. Since we have never had the pleasure of any media talking head asking her the tough questions and follow up when she dose not answer a question I think this should take place during a little one on one with the investigators in ALE.

 


4. BETH AND NATALEE

10-02-2005, 09:10 AM

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I figure with my next post I should get the boot, haven’t decided which one to use yet the Beth lies or denouncing the Sainthood of Natalee. I have way too much fun watching them all freak out.

 

5. MOUNTAIN BROOK STUDENTS

09-28-2005, 09:24 AM

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You know if we had full disclosure from the MB camp with ALL of the pictures made available from ALL the MB groups cameras I bet ya dollars to donuts that we would have a few pictures of miss NH up on the bar having her tummy tickled by Joran slurping up that Jell-O shot. Along with plenty of pictures of the drunken state of most if not all the attendees during their 5 fun filled days. Of course this will never happen, those pictures have been destroyed long ago back in MB Alabama.

 


6. MOUNTAIN BROOK STUDENTS AND BETH


09-29-2005, 03:31 PM

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Posts: 16


I currently live in Aruba. And most of us here have wondered the something, when are they going to investigate close to home in MB. I am not sure after all Aruba has invested in the JM inspired wild goose chases if we can afford to spend any more time and $$$$ on sending an investigator to MB. I think it would be a waste of time anyway, the MB clan has already had over 90 days to do there evidence cleansing and 90 days to get all of there stories straight. Wait, where is Beth’s Kool-Aid gangs outrage in the ineptness of LE for allowing this long of a time for the MB team to dispose of their incriminating evidence.

 


7. BETH AND MOUNTAIN BROOK STUDENTS

Quote from: MIP6 on March 07, 2006, 10:33:13 AM


No doubt Beth is a grieving mother and at some point was doing what she felt was right.

How does that equate to “I’m preparing another strike against Aruba”? Is this the actions of a grieving mother or someone who is seeking vengeance? Wow Wabbi that’s impressive, less than 1% of her traveling companions stayed to help look for her.

Sure am glad those MB fucks aren’t my children’s friends.

 


8. BETH

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:43 am


Girls disappearing in Aruba would be on every front page newspaper in the free world “IF” it had ever occurred prior to or after Natalee split to get away from her dysfunctional, cold & heartless, bar rag (thanks Wang) banshee of a mother.

 


9. BETH, JUG AND JULIA

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:43 am


Top my list would be Natalee. Followed by Beth & Julia in the same room at the same time with me sitting off to the side controlling Jug on his leash so he couldn’t shove Julia again. Bad dog Jug, bad dog. As I am asking the questions I could watch that little vein on Beth’s forehead start to throb with anger as Julia sits there calmly giving truthful answers to what took place in reference to the conversations between the two of them in those first few weeks. When it’s Beth turn to answer all I would hear would be a bunch stammering & stuttering along with the “you knows” and not relevant's. Heel Jug, bad dog.

 


10. DAVE

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:43 am


Are the pages from Dave’s work of fiction soft when you wipe with them?

 

11. BETH, PAUL REYNOLDS AND JULIA

Holladay PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:14 pm


I see we have a couple of f*** nuggets trying to make Julia look like the bad guy (gal) again. Don’t you Kool-Aid drinking fucktards (damn I love that word) understand yet, I and I assume many on this board will believe what Julia has to say over anything Beth ever puts forward from her journal of lies and fabrication.

Ya’ll are just pissed off because Julia owned that idiot & Paul Reynolds last night on the CC show.

 


12. ARUBA, VAN DER SLOOTS, KALPOES, JULIA AND FAMILY

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:46 pm


If I were Natalee’s parent what would I do next? Burn the playbook, or journal; it wasn’t accurate to begin with. Not listen to the following people: Jossey, Jug, Rita, Nancy, Bo, Joe M., Greta, SM, BFN, Larry, Moe & Curly. Beg forgiveness from the following people: the VDS family, the Kalpo family, the population of Aruba, the population of the Netherlands, the Aruba LE, the Dutch LE, the FBI, the CIA, the American public, Julia R. and every other person who helped in the beginning. Pay back the following: every entity in Aruba that gave me a dime. Donate every dime left in the slush fund to a worthy organization that has a real purpose of helping people. Than crawl off and hide in the hollow of some dead tree.

 


13. JUG, BETH, JULIA, JORAN, KALPOE BROTHERS, ARUBANS AND DUTCH


Doc Holladay PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:06 pm


For me one of the main things I would like to see other than Natalee coming out of hiding is for Jug & Beth to make a public apology to the following during primetime, hell lets make it during the Super Bowl and they pay for the air time: Julia Renfro for the assault that Jug performed against her. Joran for all the lies that have been told by B&J against / about him. The K brothers for the same as Joran. The families of J2K for all the hate that the B&J lies have brought to there door steps. To all the great citizens of Aruba and all Dutch territories for Beth’s crap of asking for a travel boycott. To the American people for them being such lying pieces of crap almost nightly for 10 months. And at the end of the world wide broadcast of the apologies I would like to see the FBI than slap the cuffs on both of them and lead them away as the FBI spokesperson comes on the air and state that the public at large has been bilked for XXX number of millions of dollars by this pair.

 


14. FAMILY, DEBBIE AND JULIA

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:08 pm


Doesn’t surprise me any that Debbie would do that. The title of this thread is “Debbie’s Integrity” should read “Debbie’s total lack of Morals & Integrity”. She is the head cheerleader for all things Twitty / Holloway. Someone mentioned to me that Debbie was just being “used” by the family to move the family agenda forward, I called Bullshit, Debbie knows exactly what she is doing. This is a blatant attempt to smear Julia because the Twitholes fear her knowledge of what they did here in Aruba. Just like all others who where close to the family in the beginning, they now have put in play a planned focused effort to discredit Julia. This family of the runaway Natalee are the lowest forms of life I have ever had the displeasure of experiencing in my life time. I can’t wait for the day when the house of cards that the Twitholes have built on there ongoing lies and deception comes falling down around there shoulders. I also can not wait until the day that Julia tells all, even though she is a class act, I think she will someday put it all out there.

 


15. JULIA AND FAMILY

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:45 am


It is pure and simple. Julia told the truth about Joran on national TV which was directly the opposite of what the family had just said on national TV. By doing so she became an enemy of the “family”, from that day forward according to the “family” and thier whacked out supporters, Julia became a target that had to be discredited. Threats to her, to her family, to her children. Lies told over and over again about her to the point with this latest attempt to discredit her, she has received well over 100 HATE emails. She just added these to here collection. The collection that has grown so much she had to buy an additional hard drive to hold them all. Nice group of FUCKTARDS. I also read peoples concern for Julia’s safety in this thread last night and this morning, I agree, there should be concern in this regard. However, that concern can be tempered with the fact that not only myself but also many more here in Aruba have her back at all times. So to you FUCKTARDS from the other sites that lurk here and are reading my post, you have been warned: If your plans are to mess with Julia, her family, her children or her friends here in Aruba while you come on a so called fact finding mission, you will need to go through the Doc to get to her. All bravado aside, I would not wish that fate on my worst enemy.

 


16. NATALEE

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:09 pm


We will be partying tonight at Kokoa Bar at the De Palm pier it will be there last night at that location so we are going to be giving them a big send off for there last night.

If Natalee shows up for the party I'll be sure to find the closest internet connection and let everyone know.

 


17. BETH

Doc Holladay PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:44 am


With in the first 3 weeks of her and her posse of inbreeds terrorizing our island I knew the no-no was a total whack job.

 


18. DAVE AND BETH


Doc Holladay PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:44 am


Dave made that email public to further bolster his book, remember, “Corruption in Paradise”. His other reason was to continue the hate campaign his ex started and he so whole-heartedly joined into. He is nothing more than a neutered male version of Beth; I can’t stand any of them.

 


19. JOSSY MANSUR

Quote from: MIP6 on December 05, 2006, 02:43:14 PM


Calling Jossy the return of the Jedi is very accurate. Jossy is the Darth Vader of this whole mystery. You remember, Darth, he was a Jedi of the DARK SIDE, you know the Jedi with the personal agenda who didn't give a darn about anything but himself.

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Posted by Frank in the LCD thread - WARNING this will blow the margins!:

What the heck is Robin doing?

[mbs]

FYI, if you want to document anything Reality posts, you need to copy them quick. He goes through and deletes all of his posts soon after he makes them.  I assume that is why he is able to maintain a friendship with Robin, he "disappears the evidence" of his true nature.  He makes it very difficult to even read at BFN, with all of his BS.  JMO

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  Re: Vanity Fair Article
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 09:51:31 AM »
 


It was about protecting her character in the beginning, remember one of the first interviews Beth did she stated, “ first thing I needed to do was establish Natalee’s character”, this is paraphrased.
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http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=1596.30  Re: Vanity Fair Article
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2005, 04:54:30 AM »
That would be your opinion and now here is mine as to why Beth thought the foremost important thing to do when she arrived in Aruba was to establish Natalees character as one of a virginal, non-drinking, perfect teen.
Because that’s what sells!!!!
Your average run of the mill teenager who might have drank in the past or tried pot or even, God forbid, engage in sexual activity would get little to no press coverage.
Not that it should matter as to someone’s character or not, but apparently Beth felt that it was so she spun the tale that would later prove to be not so.
If Natalee is of the character described by her mother what on earth would she be going on this trip for, since all in MB where well aware of what the group would be doing during there senior trip due to the past years of other senior class’s from MB visiting Aruba, an all inclusive drink & eat as much as you can before you pass out party festival.
Was her role suppose to be one of the wallflower sitting in the corner by herself, reading her Bible while the rest of her classmates partied like rock stars?
The goings on during there senior trip is one of the driving forces as to why almost all information flow from the others on the trip is nonexistent. They don’t what the world to know what took place while they where away from the watchful eyes of MB.
Well now the truth is being told. Read the complete VF article.
The article contains a lot of answers to questions that many have been asking me via PM for a long time.
Those on this forum may not like what is put out there in this article, tough, sometimes the truth hurts when you realize that you have been deceived by those that you have been admiring.
Before anyone posts it, regardless of if Natalee drank like a fish and or got high, regardless of what sort of social activity took place during the trip with her or the others on the trip she should still be home.
However, that is not what this post is about. It’s about the deception that was started by her mother to protect Natalee’s character as being her first agenda point when she arrived in Aruba.
What has come out in the Vanity Fair article is only a small piece of the information of what transpired between the family and friends that arrived to bring Natalee home & there interaction with those that opened there hearts to them who live in Aruba who just wanted to help bring Natalee home.

 
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=1596.30

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FYI, if you want to document anything Reality posts, you need to copy them quick. He goes through and deletes all of his posts soon after he makes them.  I assume that is why he is able to maintain a friendship with Robin, he "disappears the evidence" of his true nature.  He makes it very difficult to even read at BFN, with all of his BS.  JMO

Yep - I'm well aware  

[Tamikosmom]

Reality
BFN
June 2, 2006

Dear Curves,

I am truly saddened that you have allowed your fine organization to be swayed to a very small minority of hate mongers & xenophobes who for the most part have never even set foot in Aruba let alone even heard of Aruba prior to May 31st, 2005.

You’re pulling of the Aruba sweepstakes speaks volumes to a company being swayed by lies & fabrications.

As an American citizen living in Aruba for many years now let me give you a perspective that none of the “protest” emails can even come close to.

Aruba is by far the safest island destination in the Caribbean.

Aruba’s judicial system is based on Dutch law, world renowned as a fair and balanced system.

Aruba’s people are highly educated individuals where most here speak at least 3 to 5 languages.

Aruba has had ONE missing person in the last year, and that person may not even be a victim of a crime.

You have done your valued customers a disservice by pulling your Aruba sweepstakes by depriving them the opportunity to truly experience what an island paradise really is.

If you would like more information about the real Aruba please email at the following and I will be more than happy to set the record straight with facts not the fiction you have based your decision on to pull your Aruba Sweepstakes.

[Nut44x4]

Interesting.......thanks for the heads up about MIP6 at FOB and BFN (Mark at BNH) indeed being DOC @ RU! I had wondered in the past.

[Blonde]

I Hope He is Done, his Days of helping   You mean your days of LIES

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none ... is is obvious that Julia, Mark, Angela and others have been made privy to the outcome of the Natalee Holloway investigation ... the outcome "according to Aruba" and ... their assigned mission is to convince America through internet postings and media prior to the announcement by the "powers that be" that the outcome is "plausible".

There is a saying .... "Tell a lie often enough and it will become the truth."

I do believe that Bill O'Reilly and Gerald Rivera were attempting to further the Aruban agenda in the following exchange of words .....


Bill O'Reilly/Geraldo Rivera
The O'Reilly Factor
July 20, 2007

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Thursdays with Geraldo" segment tonight, "The Factor" has learned from sources we have to protect that Natalee Holloway, the 18-year-old Alabama woman who disappeared two years ago in Aruba, died from cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of cocaine.

According to top law enforcement officials, Natalee ingested the cocaine with Jordan van der Sloot and one of the Kalpoe brothers. Her body was then disposed in the ocean. With us now, FOX News anchor Geraldo Rivera, who you can see Saturday and Sunday at 8 p.m. in "The Factor" slot.

And I've got to give a viewer advisory here that this is information that "The Factor" has not been able to confirm independently because there is no body. But law enforcement officials believe that exactly what I said, that Natalee took a massive overdose of cocaine and when she died these boys disposed of her body.

GERALDO RIVERA, HOST, "GERALDO AT LARGE": I think it's entirely plausible.

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Posted by Reality at BFN (thought I'd capture it before he deletes it):

Reality
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Posts: 7

    Re: LATEST INFORMATION (VIDEOS & DISCUSSION) - PART 2
« Reply #461 on: Today at 06:26:34 »  

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For nearly 2 years now, both gagirl and myself have posted on this forum.
During that time both of us have been slandered and bashed in the open forum and even worse in the PM system.
Gagirl has even had her private information splashed over the internet, yet we both have returned to BFN as asked. We are here because we are asked to be here, not to cause problems but to offer our views and opinions to the discussion. To help find answers.

Have any of you ever seen any posts by either gagirl or myself that has bashed, slandered, belittled, accused either Beth, Natalee, Robin or Dave ? And I’m not talking about posts not made by ourselves.
No matter what is rumoured neither of us has ever spoke against the family.

These new statements, call them what you wish, that are now being said about cocaine usage, surely these should be discussed in a civilized manner in order to try and figure out if these things are indeed true, would this not be the prudent thing to do ?

Should  Robin Holloway see any of our posts and objected to the content of that post, both gagirl and myself would have no hesitation in removing the post that offended.

These latest rumours making the rounds about us being part of some Disinformation Group is the most ludicrous thing that has yet been posted on any of these forums and yes, these accusations have been and continue to be made here on BFN.
Time and again, Debbie has posted to address the post not the poster and yet these things are allowed to be posted whenever we attempt a discussion. If we do not respond we are avoiding the question, if we do respond we are derailing the thread. It's a no win situation, and one that could and should be corrected.

I do not include MIP6 in this as I’m sure he will speak for himself.


To answer your question Reality - YES

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Posted by Reality at BFN (thought I'd capture it before he deletes it):

Reality
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Posts: 7

    Re: LATEST INFORMATION (VIDEOS & DISCUSSION) - PART 2
« Reply #461 on: Today at 06:26:34 »  

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For nearly 2 years now, both gagirl and myself have posted on this forum.
During that time both of us have been slandered and bashed in the open forum and even worse in the PM system.
Gagirl has even had her private information splashed over the internet, yet we both have returned to BFN as asked. We are here because we are asked to be here, not to cause problems but to offer our views and opinions to the discussion. To help find answers.

Have any of you ever seen any posts by either gagirl or myself that has bashed, slandered, belittled, accused either Beth, Natalee, Robin or Dave ? And I’m not talking about posts not made by ourselves.
No matter what is rumoured neither of us has ever spoke against the family.

These new statements, call them what you wish, that are now being said about cocaine usage, surely these should be discussed in a civilized manner in order to try and figure out if these things are indeed true, would this not be the prudent thing to do ?

Should  Robin Holloway see any of our posts and objected to the content of that post, both gagirl and myself would have no hesitation in removing the post that offended.

These latest rumours making the rounds about us being part of some Disinformation Group is the most ludicrous thing that has yet been posted on any of these forums and yes, these accusations have been and continue to be made here on BFN.
Time and again, Debbie has posted to address the post not the poster and yet these things are allowed to be posted whenever we attempt a discussion. If we do not respond we are avoiding the question, if we do respond we are derailing the thread. It's a no win situation, and one that could and should be corrected.

I do not include MIP6 in this as I’m sure he will speak for himself.


To answer your question Reality - YES

I received this nice compilation of Reality's posts anonymously:

Dearest Reality/Alvin/Clive/etc/etc,
 
Ask and ye shall receive...........................
 
Care to make any other denials that can be proven false?
 
REALITY

Reality seems to wear a different face in accordance with the current status of this case. A sampling of his true feelings about the victim and her family are listed below.

DISCLAIMER

Although admin at BFN denies these posts were made by Reality, bloggers with higher levels of credibility assure us they were in fact made by the same Reality posting at BFN.



1. Reality believes Beth is using the disappearance of her daughter to make money…

as i told you from yesterday early in the morning, beth arrived
in aruba again with a group of bandits, terrorists.
LOT IS HAPPENING IN ARUBA .
ITS NOT ABOUT NAT ANYMORE !!
ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND A GROUP OF BANDITS !!
AND A CIRCUS FULL OF CLOWNS FOLLOWING THESE TERRORISTS !!
IS NAT GOING TO POP UP ???
IS THIS WHY BETH BROUGHT THE PARAMOUNT MOVIE CREW IN,
FOR THEIR NEW MOVIE ???
TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF YOU GUYS ????

reality Posted: Nov 2 2005, 11:18 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?s=e57331df5e705dd9fce2ffe8957dbe76&showtopic=113

2. Reality believes that Beth is out to harm the Aruban people ….

Beth is in aruba , arrived yesterday, not to look for nat. but to look
for trouble !!!
THIS TIME THIS GROUP OF GANGSTERS AND TERRORISTS WILL GET
THE TROUBLE THEY CAME TO LOOK FOR !!!
she came with a tv crew and a crew from the paramout pictures, to
harm Aruba and its people !!
POLICE WILL HAVE TO ARREST THIS PERSON FOR INTEROGATION !!
GOVERNMENT OF ARUBA OR HOLLAND WILL HAVE TO DECLARE THIS
PERSON AND GROUP PERSONA NON GRATA TO THE ISLAND !!!
THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA SHOULD STAND UP NOW AND WITH ALL FORCE
AGAINST THIS GROUP OF TERRORISTS THAT CAME TO ATTACK OUR
ISLAND,
ARUBANS STAND UP NOW TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR CHIL-
DRENS FUTURE.
ARUBANS ARE NICE, BUT NOT STUPID !!!
WE ARE GOING NOW TO WHERE THESE TERRORISTS ARE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

reality Posted: Nov 2 2005, 07:10 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=115

3. Reality implies that Beth instructed MB students and chaperones to remain silent…

Chief of investigating team of police,
said; now it will have to be proven , that nat or beth or together
ARE NOT SCAMPERS !!!!!!
ALL IN THE GROUP AND ALL CHAPARONES SHOULD CALL NOW;
297 587 0009 OR FAX 297 587 0051 ,
POLICE STATION NOORD ARUBA,
LAST CALL , DONT WORRY WHAT BETH TOLD YOU, TO KEEP QUIET,!!!
IF THEY TURN OUT TO BE SCAMPERS , ALL THEIR DONATION AND
INSURANCE MONEY WILL BE CONFISCATED FOR DAMAGES AND COSTS
DONE IN AND TO ARUBA !!! 4+3= 7 MILLION ?????
PLUS BY LAW A COUPLE YEARS JAIL TIME IN ARUBA, TOGETHER WITH
ALL THE CRIMINALS.
SO IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE TOGETHER WITH THE SCAMPERS IN
IN JAIL OR IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ARRESTED IN CRISTMAS OR
NEW YEARS WEEK FOR INTEROGATION AS SUSPECTS, DO YOURSELF
A FAVOR AND TALK NOW !!!!!
NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THE SUE CASES AGAINST THIS
BETH.
Nothing is happening in Aruba, last declaration of equu search team
they searched a couple of days with dave, found nothing, the third
and last search efford, they are done and gone. For this kind of
people all hope is gone, they cant even find a body, let stand a life
person !!!!
WE SAY ; WE WILL KEEP ON SAYING SHE IS ALIFE BUT NOT IN ARUBA !!!
REALITY NEVER HURT ANYBODY, ANY CAUSE OR NATION !!!!
MY NAME IS NOT REALITY.........
I AM ........REALITY ....!!!!!!!!!!!!

reality Posted: Oct 30 2005, 09:32 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=113

4. Reality says Mountain Brook students have the answer ……

A MASS DEMONSTRATION CALLED FOR TOMORROW.
TO SHOW BETH AND GROUP OF GANGSTERS AND CLOWNS
THAT THE ARUBAN CITIZENS ARE FED UP WITH THEM.
THE ANSWERS ARE NOW IN MOUNTAIN BROOK !
THAT THE U.S. MEDIA DOES NOT REPRESENT THE U.S. PEOPLE !!
THAT THE ARUBANS ARE NICE, BUT NOT STUPID !!!
THAT BETH IS NOT LOOKING FOR NAT. BUT FOR MONEY AND NOW TROUBLE !!!
PARAMOUT PICTURES HAS NO RIGHT , NO PERMIT TO FILM ANYTHING !!
STAND BY FOR MORE INFO...........
FROM REALITY, THE ONLY TRUTH SOURCE ...!!!!!

reality Posted: Nov 2 2005, 09:08 PM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=119

5. Reality claims that Beth is not welcome in Aruba …..

BETH WAS BROUGHT THIS MORNING TO THE POLICE STATION
IN NOORD FROM HERE TO THE AIRPORT, OUT OF ARUBA !
NO DECLARATIONS , YET, RELEASED !!
HER STAY WAS VERY , VERY SHORT THIS TIME, CAUSE SHES
NOT WELCOME IN ARUBA ANYMORE, LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE
SHE CAME !!
PARAMOUT PICTURE GROUP WITH TRUCKLOADS OF EQUIPMENT
GONE TOO, TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM !!
THIS TIME THERE WAS NO PARTIES FOR BETH, NO COCKTAILS,
NO CASINOS, NO SHOPPING, NO FREE DINNING AND STAYS !!
NO DONATIONS, NO MOVIES, NO BOOKS,NO STORY TO SELL !!
HOPE THEY HAVE STRAIGHTEN HER HEAD IN THE POLICE STATION !!
REALITY NEVER HURT ANYBODY, ANY CAUSE OR NATION !!!

Reality Posted: Nov 3 2005, 01:45 PM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=120

6. Reality claims Beth should be sued by Deepak, Joran and Satish …..

thes 3 guys should sue beth for damaging their names without
any proof.
who beth think she is, she can rule the us circus clowns of the media,
but she can never give orders to arubas prime minister or our judges.
since beth is full of donations money, these guys can use this for
their studies !!
SUPREME COURT DICISION ; THEY ARE FREE , TO GO WHEREVER THEY WISH

reality Posted: Sep 15 2005, 10:31 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=85

7. Reality gloats regarding Beth’s dire situation …..

MONDAY , STAY PENDING , PRIME MINISTER OF ARUBA GOT TIRED
OF THIS ANTI ARUBA ARAB FAT GUY , WHOS SUPPORTING BETH,
WILL BRING HIM TO COURT ON MONDAY.
MONDAY.. STAY PENDING FOR DEMONSTRATION CALLED IN FRONT OF
COURT HOUSE TO PROTEST AGAINST, THIS ANTI ARUBA GUY, BETH AND
US MEDIA.
BETH WENT TO ALABAMA MAYBE TO RUN FROM THIS HEAT, NOW A MAJORHURRICANE WILL HIT ALABAMA, NOW SHE LL HAVE TO RUN , TOGETHER
WITH ALL THE LAWMAKERS, THAT ASKED THE PEOPLE OF ALABAMA
TO BOYCOTT ARUBA.
STRANGE, BIG DAY FOR BOTH PERSONS TRYING TO GIVE ARUBA A BAD NAME!!
ON THE SAME DAY ........ MONDAY.........
THE UNIVERSAL LAW !!!
ARUBA NEVER DID HARM NAT.
ARUBA IS INDEED A SAFE ISLAND !!!

reality Posted: Aug 28 2005, 08:01 PM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=55

8. Reality bashes Natalee …..

thinkaboutit; I agree with you,
nats so called friends have not been investigated enough , what do they
know about nats exboyfriend. ?
from the news i have heard she was drinking alcohol the whole day till
the next, on boat trips, then concert then carlos and charlie,
where were your friends ?
I do hope and pray for her safe return.
the parents should have known about this drinking problem.

reality Posted: Sep 2 2005, 12:18 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=55

9. Reality claims Beth is dining and gambling while expecting volunteers to dive ….

AN ANTI ARUBA GUY IS ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO DIVE AND LOOK FOR NAT FOR 1 HOUR.
THIS GUY IS PROMISING BETH AND NANCY DESGRACE TO PERSONALY WITH A GROUP TO DIVE AND FIND NATALEE ON THIS CIRCUS SHOW.
WEEKS AND WEEKS ARE PASSING , NO DIVERS ARE SHOWING UP.
WONDER WHY?? NO PAYMENT, NO WORK, WHERE IS ALL THE MILLIONS

BETH RECEIVING IN THIS SOUTHBANK ACCOUNT??
WHY BETH WANT TO KEEP ALL THE MONEY, RECEIVE EVERYTHING FREE, EXPECT
EVERY SEARCHGROUP TO WORK FOR FREE,WHILE SHE S DINNING AND WINNING AND PLAYING IN CASINOS??
ARUBA HAS MORE THAN 500 CERTIFIED DIVERS AND THOUSANDS OF REGULAR DIVERS.
THEY EVEN CANT GET 30 DIVERS.
YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN , THANKS TO BETHS ATTITUDE ..........

reality Posted: Aug 26 2005, 10:11 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=50

10. Reality claims it is Beth’s attitude ….

The poeple of aruba lost interest in the case!
No one is talking about it, its not on the news anymore, no one is looking for nat
because the best searched teams of the us plus the latest equipment has been used, nothing.

All posters have been removed, thanks to beths attitude against aruba!!

Only thing that happened tonight ,i supose the us media doesnt know anymore what to do,besides sitting at the poolbar drinking pina coladas.........siesta and
parties, they came up with a terrific plan to go in the jail institute with hidden camaras, against the privancy law, to film Joran, as if they still dont know who Joran is.

This NBC media was taken to court tonight and judge ruled that what was filmed of joran cannot be aired in the us or aruba, if they do so without permission of joran,NBC wil have to pay Joran ONE MILLION FLORINS for every time they do so !! About $$ 600.000.=

When will these poeple start showing some RESPECT?????

Reality Posted: Aug 24 2005, 08:38 PM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=39

11. Reality claims that Aruba is paying for all Beth’s expenses ….

you should be open minded, saeker, im talking in general ,i didnot say you or on this forum , im saying the u.s. media is attacking aruba every day, beth is behind all this boycott issue to aruba,while receiving everything for free, help from arubans, dining and free hotels, free transportations, beth is shopping and playing in casinos,having a nice stay in paradise island, asking everybody for donations and when asked what is being done with all the $$$ she wont anser this question.

Reality Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:58 am

http://forum.prophecies.us/viewtopic.php?t=8081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1425

12. Reality claims that Beth believes the white race is superior …..

when people like you and beth talk about your children , its clear that
you and beth think your child is better than a black or latino child !
Thats why I say you are sick and need help !
WHY THE MEDIA DONT GIVE MUCH ATTENTION WHEN A BLACK CHILD OR ADULT IS MISSING ?? BECAUSE THEY DESCRIMINATE, WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY, BECAUSE THEY ARE CIRCUS CLOWNS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SICK.!!
you still havent heard beth stayed for free more than 3 months in 5 stars hotels
in paradise , wine and dine for free everyday in a different restaurant, play
casinos, go shopping, ect, just to shop she pays.
all search groups were on voluntary basis.!
so you tell me what did she pay!!
I work like the judges only with facts not rumors and emotions.!
You have enough time to educate your child, that when the moment comes she s
all alone she knows how to behave, what to do , what not to do, wherever
she is this moment is going to come believe me.

Reality Posted: Sep 13 2005, 04:28 PM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=65

13. Reality claims that Beth embellishes the truth ….

the boy admitted having normal sex with her.
THE REST IS MADE UP BY BETH .
BY NOW EVERYONE KNOWS BETH.

reality Posted: Sep 14 2005, 10:37 AM

14. Reality claims Beth refuses to look further than Aruba for Natalee …..

want some.........reality
nat is a missing person, till her body is not found, this will stay so.
tiil her body is not found, she is alive somewhere , in a boat or in venezuela,
beth refuses to look for nat in an other country, only she knows why !

Reality Posted: Aug 28 2005, 10:32 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=52

15. Reality believes that Joran, Deepak and Satish should sue Beth …..

now all 3 are free of anything, they should sue beth ,nancy and us media
of damaging their names !

Reality Posted: Sep 15 2005, 10:22 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=52

16. Reality implicates everybody but Joran, Deepak and Satish …..

nat will decide when to pop up !
or if beth still in control of her , will decide when nat should pop up.!
Stay in the reality; If nobody is looking anymore in Aruba or other countries
she will not be found !!!
I will stay with my opinion; everyone is innocent till proven guilty !
no one can proof the 3 were the last with her !
they declared from day one, they had sex or
romance with her, changed by beth they raped
or violated her.
If she been killed it could be another person !
What about boyfriend black that beth could not
accept ?
Why did he followed nat to Aruba ?
What did he do to nat ?
The girls in her group should be investigated !
OR
Is this a plan of beth ???

Reality Posted: Sep 10 2005, 11:21 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=77

17. Reality claims Beth is only after money and revenge ….

Haven t You noticed beth is not looking for nat.
beth never looked for nat in aruba, the Arubans were looking for nat.
beth is not looking for the truth, investigating the whole group.
NAT HAD A COLORED BOYFRIEND THAT FOLLOWED THE GROUP TO ARUBA.
BETH IS AFTER 2 THINGS AND NOT NATALEE, 1. MONEY 2. VENGEANCE !!
why is beth lying all the time if shes only looking for her daughter ??

reality Posted: Sep 17 2005, 04:55 PM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=88

18. Reality gloats because Joran, Deepak and Satish are free …..

Supreme Court ,group of judges from Curacao dicided that this case is
finito !!
ther never was a case of charching these guys with anything !
now there is nothing to arrest them for suspects neither !
So they are free of anything, they can do and travel where they wish !!

Reality Posted: Sep 15 2005, 10:16 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=84

19. Reality claims that Beth and the MB students are now suspects ……

chief of police is finally talking,
asking beth to come to join the investigation, a lot of
questions for her to answer !!
A lot of questions for the whole group that were asked to
keep quiet !!
A lot of questions for the chaparones !!
So you see as i told you the first part of the investigation
is ready or nearly closed.
But now they are going to start with the second part of
the investigation where the answers may be !!!
All these people are suspects, they will be forced by
law to give all information, cause aint fair when you
are talking bad of Aruba, its people, its police, its
government, ect . AND YOU ARE HOLDING BACK
ON VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION.!!!!!!
CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS ON THE MILLIONS DOLLAR
ACCOUNT OF BETH AND WHY DAVE FATHER OF NAT.
DO NOT HAVE ACCES OF THIS MONEY FOR THE SEARCH.
AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE BETH IS ONLY AFTER MONEY,
IS NOT PAYING ANY BILLS, WANTS EVERYTHING FREE,
IS NOT LOOKING FOR NAT. ANYWHERE.
DONT BE STUPID , STOP THE DONATIONS AND THIS CASE
WILL BE OVER. THIS IS A MONEY-SICK PERSON !!!!
REALITY WITH THE REALITY AGAIN, OVER AND OVER !!!
OK GUYS YOU HAVE NOW ONLY NOW THE CHANCE TO TELL
THE WHOLE STORY AFTER 5 MONTHS.
IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TOO, ONE BY ONE OF YOU WILL BE
INVESTIGATED, MAYBE ARRESTED FOR QUESTIONING,
IN THE U.S.A. BY THE ARUBAN-DUTCH POLICE TOGETHER
WITH THE F.B.I.
ALL SUSPECTS IN ARUBA HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED,
NOW ITS YOUR TURN !!!!!!!

Reality Posted: Oct 26 2005, 09:45 AM

http://www.worldwidemart.com/arubaforum/index.php?showtopic=112


REALITY – BFN POSTS

1. Reality negates Beth’s work by promoting Aruba as a safe place to vacation ....

Dear Curves,

I am truly saddened that you have allowed your fine organization to be swayed to a very small minority of hate mongers & xenophobes who for the most part have never even set foot in Aruba let alone even heard of Aruba prior to May 31st, 2005.

You’re pulling of the Aruba sweepstakes speaks volumes to a company being swayed by lies & fabrications.

As an American citizen living in Aruba for many years now let me give you a perspective that none of the “protest” emails can even come close to.

Aruba is by far the safest island destination in the Caribbean.
Aruba’s judicial system is based on Dutch law, world renowned as a fair and balanced system.

Aruba’s people are highly educated individuals where most here speak at least 3 to 5 languages.
Aruba has had ONE missing person in the last year, and that person may not even be a victim of a crime.

You have done your valued customers a disservice by pulling your Aruba sweepstakes by depriving them the opportunity to truly experience what an island paradise really is.

If you would like more information about the real Aruba please email at the following and I will be more than happy to set the record straight with facts not the fiction you have based your decision on to pull your Aruba Sweepstakes.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=2854.150


2. Reality trashes Beth ....

.... The US media is attacking Aruba every day, Beth is behind all this boycott issue to Aruba, while receiving everything for free, help from Arubans, dining and free hotels, free transportations, Beth is shopping and playing in casinos, having a nice stay in paradise island, asking everybody for donations and when asked what is being done with all the $$$ she wont answer this question.

Reality Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:58 am

http://forum.prophecies.us/viewtopic.php?t=8081&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1425

3. Reality trashes the Mountain Brook students.....

Those MB Brats, I wonder if they have started talking yet, possibly in the last year, whilst in the real world and away from the bosoms of their Mama's ?

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4226.msg148163#msg148163
August 18, 2005

4. Reality believes the Mountain Brook students are unwilling to cooperate in the investigation ......

Yes it is very strange that a Senator had to basically, URGE them to co-operate.

That doesn't make any sense, don't you think ?

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4454.30
August 3, 2005

5. Reality disrespects Americans ….

They say that travel broadens the mind
Unless of course, you are American
Where it tends to widen the a**

Note: rude image

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4580.msg145899#msg145899
August 12, 2005

6. Reality blames the media because the case is not solved……

I agree and also if FOX hadn't got in peoples faces with their brand of American Sensationalism, this case would have been solved ages ago.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4042.msg121429
June 17, 2005


7. Reality believes the slandering of Joran can be blamed on the American Right Wing media …..

Interesting post, but how is the conclusion arrived at that Joran was wild ?
From what I have read, seen and heard, this young fellow seems pretty normal, nothing wilder than the MB Kids that were on Aruba.
In fact, a little pussy-cat when compared to kids that age that I have seen and don't even begin to tell me that does not apply to kids from the US.
One has to take much of the slandering of this kid with a pinch of salt, these are enuendos put forth by the Right Wing US Media, much the same as was applied to the alledged victim of Duke.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4006.msg121427
June 17, 2006


8. Reality disagrees with the family’s support of the boycott ….

I have to agree with you on this, in my tried and tested opinion the only achievment the Boycott can claim is that of offending innocent Aruban People and hampering the investigation.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?action=search2
September 16, 2005

9. Reality believes the those at the Refugee site are “nice folk” ….

But the vast majority of the Refugees are just nice people wanting the TRUTH of what happened to Natalee.

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forums/index.php?topic=4454.30
August 3, 2005



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