Home
Blog
Radio
Missing Persons
Crime
May 21, 2024, 11:01:14 AM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
Home
Help
Login
Register
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 - 9/30/2007
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 - 9/30/2007 (Read 226876 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Observer
Monkey All Star Jr.
Offline
Posts: 6877
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #520 on:
September 27, 2007, 01:35:09 AM »
9-26-07
Rudy Croes preparing for a riot?
Logged
"I lied and thats the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot
igsigs
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2736
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #521 on:
September 27, 2007, 01:46:40 AM »
Strange story about early tip, Beth and *Vader* (van Loon > imo).
Tip calls connecting Natalee and yellow jeep/landcruiser. One tip names Vader (drug-runner with boat)...another names Theodore.
Vader located by Beth and brought to Bubali. Jacobs does not question him...says tip is *Theodore*.
Outside Bubali Beth questions Vader again. He admits he is *Theodore*...also. He is then questioned.
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #522 on:
September 27, 2007, 01:51:28 AM »
Quote from: igsigs on September 27, 2007, 01:46:40 AM
Strange story about early tip, Beth and *Vader* (van Loon > imo).
Tip calls connecting Natalee and yellow jeep/landcruiser. One tip names Vader (drug-runner with boat)...another names Theodore.
Vader located by Beth and brought to Bubali. Jacobs does not question him...says tip is *Theodore*.
Outside Bubali Beth questions Vader again. He admits he is *Theodore*...also. He is then questioned.
Tip probably came from Renfro
Logged
igsigs
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2736
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #523 on:
September 27, 2007, 01:56:25 AM »
It was wednesday evening, 10pm, first week...that Jacobs showed up at the restaurant to have Beth sign a new statement, in Dutch. Jacobs said the need for a new statement is because dates were wrong on the first one.
Logged
Karo
Scared Monkey
Offline
Posts: 178
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #524 on:
September 27, 2007, 01:57:10 AM »
I went to Walmart yesterday and the representative of the company that stocks books in south Louisiana Walmarts was putting out new books. I asked him about
Loving Natalee
and he looked it up on his list and told me it would not be put out until October 2.
He said, “I can’t sell it to you even if I have it with me because we would be fined.”
A “memo” had been sent out earlier this week to the reps, he said, informing them not to put it out until October 2
Hope some of you have Walmarts where the reps have not received this memo—or where they are stocked by a different company...
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #525 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:02:31 AM »
In Solo di Pueblo 09/26/07
Logged
igsigs
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2736
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #526 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:05:01 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on September 27, 2007, 01:51:28 AM
Tip probably came from Renfro
I always assumed van Loon was clean as a whistle because the only time Renfro EVER got near discussing the actual *investigation* on SM she introduced him. Even then, it was only a pic...followed by numerous
and babble.
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #527 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:08:59 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on September 27, 2007, 02:02:31 AM
In Solo di Pueblo 09/26/07
More on Bryan Hamaker:
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/harrytho_1110_n.php
The following information is posted for
Paul Bryan Hamaker
, who emailed the information to us. Paul claims to have verifiable information that Bob Riley, Jeff Sessions, and Richard Shelby - Gov and Senators from Alabama, have all consistently received money from the Netherlands PACS.
The purpose here is not to "farm up" points of scandal, but to point out just how bizzare the entire boycott idea is, as well as the complex interactions that are involved in the ever-evolving cast of characters related to Natalee's disappearance. Aruba and the Netherlands are far more involved in the Alabama scene, and vice-versa, than anyone could have ever imagined.
Paul also says that he also believes that state rep from Holloway Twitty area also gets money from Netherlands PACs. Here is the "short" version:
Netherlands Contribution TO Alabama Governor And Senators Election by PAC
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #528 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:14:19 AM »
Quote from: Karo on September 27, 2007, 01:57:10 AM
I went to Walmart yesterday and the representative of the company that stocks books in south Louisiana Walmarts was putting out new books. I asked him about
Loving Natalee
and he looked it up on his list and told me it would not be put out until October 2.
He said, “I can’t sell it to you even if I have it with me because we would be fined.”
A “memo” had been sent out earlier this week to the reps, he said, informing them not to put it out until October 2
Hope some of you have Walmarts where the reps have not received this memo—or where they are stocked by a different company...
I figured it was something like that.
Logged
igsigs
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2736
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #529 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:14:40 AM »
Solo di Pueblo
=
FOBRU
I hope Paul Bryan Hamaker does not have any family members that have ever been arrested. Because, of course, whatever they are charged with he is also responsible.
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #530 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:18:39 AM »
GOODNIGHT ALL
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 74276
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #531 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:19:19 AM »
Quote from: igsigs on September 27, 2007, 02:14:40 AM
Solo di Pueblo
=
FOBRU
I hope Paul Bryan Hamaker does not have any family members that have ever been arrested. Because, of course, whatever they are charged with he is also responsible.
I agree. Trying to figure out which RU poster he is
Logged
igsigs
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 2736
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #532 on:
September 27, 2007, 02:24:28 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on September 27, 2007, 02:19:19 AM
I agree. Trying to figure out which RU poster he is
There was a *Paul* at FOB who had Jossyitis. Said he was from Bama, and knew the Sloots. I'm calling it.
Logged
Nut44x4
Maine - USA
Global Moderator
Monkey Mega Star
Offline
Posts: 18800
RIP Grumpy Cat :( I will miss you.
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #533 on:
September 27, 2007, 07:31:03 AM »
Quote from: igsigs on September 26, 2007, 11:11:40 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on September 26, 2007, 11:00:39 PM
Uh, Wever, that's Dutch isn't it? What you want to bet he's walking around free as a bird right now.
Croes may be Aruban...but i do think it likely that her son is walking free. I never heard of any trial/sentence. Possibly he benefited from the *lost files* scandal of Oct. 05.
http://www.semver.aw/geanealogiafamiliar.htm
Logged
Brothers and Sisters, I bid you beware/Of giving your heart to a dog to tear -- Rudyard Kipling
One who doesn't trust is never deceived...
'I remained too much inside my head and ended up losing my mind' -Edgar Allen Poe
sharon
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3216
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #534 on:
September 27, 2007, 07:31:36 AM »
Quote from: San on September 26, 2007, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: klaasend on September 26, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: Rob on September 26, 2007, 09:39:38 PM
I just remembered something.
A while back there was the son of a government official that was busted down in SA. Who was that? I believe that person had 250K in cash on him. I wonder if he is tied to the Mansur gang?
Wasn't that Wever's son? I remember the incident, not sure which son it was though. It's posted here somewhere, lol
I thought it was Theresa Croes' son.
He was busted for cocaine smuggling in the Netherlands, iirc.
Logged
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has!" Margaret Mead
Peaches
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3539
~WE LOVE YOU PEACHES~
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #535 on:
September 27, 2007, 07:47:38 AM »
Quote from: klaasend on September 25, 2007, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: Lala'sMom on September 25, 2007, 11:43:41 PM
Quote from: Rob on September 25, 2007, 10:35:20 PM
can't wait to see where Patrick fits in!
Who is this? Did I miss the answer?
I believe he's referring to Patrick Boset (Renfro's husband/friend or whatever)
One of her baby daddys.
Logged
"I bring my better angels to every fight".
Expect a miracle.
msmarple
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3835
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #536 on:
September 27, 2007, 08:49:52 AM »
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
09/26/2007
Many tall stories about huge police action
ORANJESTAD – “I wished it was true that we have found one million florins in cash, but that was not the case, neither that we found big amounts of drugs”, said senior public prosecutor Hans Mos. There are tall stories going around about the large-scale police action of last Monday.
“The suspects did have a substantial amount of money on them, but we should not exaggerate. There are also rumours that we acted under the pressure of the Netherlands. That is absolutely not true. The decision was made here. You cannot take any risk with an action like this. We have therefore asked assistance from the Netherlands and Curacao. You cannot do it with too few people, because you will otherwise endanger your own people.
In retrospect, the big effort of 120 men is definitely justified. That turned out to be necessary, since one of the suspects has fired a gun. Also the sniffer dogs from the Netherlands were useful. Here, we do not sniffer dogs trained to find money. And when you do not have something, you simply have to hire it from somewhere else, just like any other company.”
Mos didn’t want to say much about the 8 suspects. He did say though that all of them are active drug dealers in Aruba. “It was not an international gang, but because they deal in drugs, they do have contacts in Venezuela and Colombia.”
An important decision is going to be made on Monday
.
{I assume 10/01/2007}
That’s when the OM must proof that there’s sufficient evidence to keep them in custody. For the offence committed by some of the suspects, like extortion, drugs dealing, and money laundering, there are 7 or 8 years of prison term.
LAWYERS CRITISIZED
One of the 10 locations that were searched last Monday was the
lawyers’ firm Mohamed Emerencia Duyneveld
. According to Duyneveld, it was done nicely and politely. The examining judge had only asked him and his colleagues a few questions. Because during the past seven years he conducted negotiations in Venezuela as
lawyer of the arrested suspect Luis Mansur
, the OM was interested in his involvement with the drugs case. He was asked not to represent Mansur as a lawyer for the time being and be a possible witness later.
Duyneveld can imagine very well that it was his ‘former’ client that drew a gun when the police raided his home. “The assisting special squad from Curacao has used an igniter to blow Mansur’s front door down around 04:00 in the morning and ran inside. You wake up with a start and protect yourself.”
Logged
Why did they have to disappear her body?
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary -
http://tinyurl.com/2lhukn
My usual avatar is an
orchis simia
(monkey orchid) plant.
msmarple
Monkey Junky
Offline
Posts: 3835
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #537 on:
September 27, 2007, 09:19:22 AM »
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/9/27/
Diario
has a section called “Cumpleañeros” where people can publish greetings (birthdays, anniversaries, etc.) It seems that
Freddy Zedan’s
birthday was either yesterday or today. (
Diario
did not publish 09/26/2007.) Sorry the translation is so bad.
Quote
Awe a haci un aña mas di su lekker leven e guy sweet sweet. Nada mas ni nada menos cu FREDDY ZEDAN. Eta haya bunch of huggs & kisses di toda la familia. Tanto na tanto sunchinan di tur su admiradoranan cu ta mane hopi pa
menshona! hahahaha Ki ba kere cu bo a scapa di sali den corant?? Bms schat enjoy bo dia y no haci nada di mas!! TQM...bo lil sis Ghis.
Online Pap translation:
today owing to haci one year more of his lekker leven the guy sweet sweet. nothing more neither nothing less cu freddy zedan. eta achieve bunch or huggs & kisses of toda la familia. tanto at tanto sunchinan of all his admiradoranan cu is mane much for menshona! hahahaha what ba believe cu you have scapa of leave in corant?? bms schat enjoy do you day y not haci nothing of more!! tqm...bo lil sis ghis.
klaas
- there's a picture of him with a female, maybe a family member ... if you want to grab it. (Do we need another one?)
Logged
Why did they have to disappear her body?
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary -
http://tinyurl.com/2lhukn
My usual avatar is an
orchis simia
(monkey orchid) plant.
Rob
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 12469
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #538 on:
September 27, 2007, 09:20:13 AM »
PAC = Political Action Committees = Special Interests = Legalized Bribery.
I also notice a few of
de Cubas
(of Cuba) on Aruba. Would these be pre or post Castro? Another interesting connection to the family tree.
Could be Baptista supporters that got out before Castro took over in '59 or could be communists themselves that were spreading their message ala Che'.
Logged
Truth, Justice and the American Way.
+++
~ livin' the life I was born to live - givin' it all I've got to give ~
Rob
Monkey All Star
Offline
Posts: 12469
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 -
«
Reply #539 on:
September 27, 2007, 09:21:48 AM »
Quote from: Rob on September 27, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
PAC = Political Action Committees = Special Interests = Legalized Bribery.
I also notice a few of
de Cubas
(of Cuba) on Aruba. Would these be pre or post Castro? Another interesting connection to the family tree.
Could be Baptista supporters that got out before Castro took over in '59 or could be communists themselves that were spreading their message ala Che'.
One more note on PACs - it is illegal for a foreign country or entity to contribute to such a PAC.
Logged
Truth, Justice and the American Way.
+++
~ livin' the life I was born to live - givin' it all I've got to give ~
Pages:
«
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
»
Go Up
Print
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum
>
Natalee Holloway
>
LCD Archive
> Topic:
Natalee Case Discussion #682 9/24 - 9/30/2007
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
FORUM RULES
-----------------------------
=> Forum Rules and Tips
-----------------------------
Polls, Polls and more Polls
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
-----------------------------
Missing Persons - High Profile
-----------------------------
=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
=======> IDAHO
=======> ILLINOIS
=======> INDIANA
=======> IOWA
=======> KANSAS
=======> KENTUCKY
=======> LOUISIANA
=======> MAINE
=======> MARYLAND
=======> MASSACHUSETTS
=======> MICHIGAN
=======> MINNESOTA
=======> MISSISSIPPI
=======> MISSOURI
=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
=======> WYOMING
=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
-----------------------------
Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
-----------------------------
=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
-----------------------------
High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
-----------------------------
=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
-----------------------------
Missing, Exploited and True Crime
-----------------------------
=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
-----------------------------
Natalee Holloway
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
-----------------------------
Current Events and Musings
-----------------------------
=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
-----------------------------
The Monkey Lounge
-----------------------------
=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
-----------------------------
Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
-----------------------------
General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
-----------------------------
=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
Loading...