Lively Case Discussion #625 5/20-5/22/2007

[blah]

check it out, the web archives has Mathews site, its a little slow to load

http://web.archive.org/web/20060205184109/http://savesannicolas.com/

3 version you can click on here(under 2006):
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.savesannicolas.com/

[klaasend]

http://www.cspnv.com/archivo/pdf/May/19/A-19-5-07.pdf

In his recently published book, Joran van der Sloot is senala
For Barely 5 Florin Can Owing to A chieve 'Marihuana' in KIA and Guards Do Not Haci Nothing
is learn tecnica with for enter cu cellular without wordo detects

Oranjestad - Cu have corupcion in KIA is wordo confirms once more.  And the trip here door of nothing less cu the young come across Joran van der Sloot in his book cu recently owing to stay it publishes.  In his book "The Matter of Natalee Holloway, My Own Tale Concerning Her Disappearance", Joran do not save nothing and none person and none detaye.  One of the points cu is it pulls ahead attention is the form with the is describi several scenario, and among them, one confirmation cu day in day fo corruption in KIA.

The book, skibi at dutch u asistencia of Zvezdana Vukojevic, is draw one plaatchi of kico life in KIA is.  One hotel luboso it compares cu the celnan at keep of police.  Van der Sloot is count cu luho and detaye, that his companions of cel is at KIA,  with one day even pe is eiden, but also kico all is sosode in the institute corecional.

Although cu the was close in the section of hubentud, the form of life eiden is practicamente same for all prisoner.  Miss of freedom, but cu condicionnan more weigh debi at his age.  Thing is it pulls ahead attention is with Van der Sloot is talk of the trafiacion of drugs cu is take place eiden, the humamento of marihuana and another drugs without cu the guardians is haci something against this.

"The guardians is haci because; if it was they do not smell and look at nothing" Van der Sloot is skibi in his book.  The is show also with facil is for achieve drugs in KIA.  "For barely 5 guilder come across, could you achieve one sigaria of marihuana" Van der Sloot is follow tell.  Although the coin do not efectivo is haci business earnest eiden for succeed achieve drugs.  guardianan is it covers for they persons and is let cosnan happen cu not have to.  

Hour cu was conoci cu Joran was achieve privilege of visit debi at his age, companeronan of cel at once owing to siñ'e subterfuge for succeed thirteen celularnan diminutive using the form of it sinks this in type of tire cu do not wordo detects for her metal detector.  So have mucho more co cu vd Sloot is admiti in his book.

Way to go Joran!  Bite the hand that fed you - love it!!  
Joran's going to expose the corruption on the island...give me a freakin' break!!

******* - Yes, was posted earlier today

[blah]

check it out, the web archives has Mathews site, its a little slow to load

http://web.archive.org/web/20060205184109/http://savesannicolas.com/

3 version you can click on here(under 2006):
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.savesannicolas.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20051213230608/www.savesannicolas.com/articles.php?news_id=1

[klaasend]

Thanks Blah

Interresting that the website is down all of a sudden now though, don't you think?

[Tylergal]

Thanks Blah

Interresting that the website is down all of a sudden now though, don't you think?

 Another MIA with the tidal wave of Taco "relays" orders to get it done.  De gustibus non est disputandum

[Observer]

Ahh..Thanks Klaas..

[blah]

Thanks Blah

Interresting that the website is down all of a sudden now though, don't you think?

especially I dont see that part where he was tearing into Renfros rag

[Tylergal]

Does anyone else other than me see this as a consciencous effort on the part of the Taco crowd to become little lambs and expose Aruba as corrupt while playing up to the Matthews crowd and tearing down Jossy's family.  I see this as organized smear campaign that involves Renfro, Anita, Taco and his little "relay" carrier pigeons.

[Nut44x4]

Does anyone else other than me see this as a consciencous effort on the part of the Taco crowd to become little lambs and expose Aruba as corrupt while playing up to the Matthews crowd and tearing down Jossy's family.  I see this as organized smear campaign that involves Renfro, Anita, Taco and his little "relay" carrier pigeons.

I do......and I also have NEVER agreed that Natalee ever mentioned 'Hitler'.....ever. I do not believe it. These were NOT her words.

[Rob]

Does anyone else other than me see this as a consciencous effort on the part of the Taco crowd to become little lambs and expose Aruba as corrupt while playing up to the Matthews crowd and tearing down Jossy's family.  I see this as organized smear campaign that involves Renfro, Anita, Taco and his little "relay" carrier pigeons.

YES!!!!! we must have been separated at birth. We see so much the exact same way!  

[Observer]

Does anyone else other than me see this as a consciencous effort on the part of the Taco crowd to become little lambs and expose Aruba as corrupt while playing up to the Matthews crowd and tearing down Jossy's family.  I see this as organized smear campaign that involves Renfro, Anita, Taco and his little "relay" carrier pigeons.

I do......and I also have NEVER agreed that Natalee ever mentioned 'Hitler'.....ever. I do not believe it. These were NOT her words.

In Joran's PV he says that Natalee repeated herself 5 times about her Mom being Hitlers sister. All a bunch of lies to have certain people despise Natalee and her family...As far as Taco goes he is trying to make the ALE out to be idiots. Like when he mentioned that the Kalpoe car was never forensicly tested.

[Tylergal]

Does anyone else other than me see this as a consciencous effort on the part of the Taco crowd to become little lambs and expose Aruba as corrupt while playing up to the Matthews crowd and tearing down Jossy's family.  I see this as organized smear campaign that involves Renfro, Anita, Taco and his little "relay" carrier pigeons.

I do......and I also have NEVER agreed that Natalee ever mentioned 'Hitler'.....ever. I do not believe it. These were NOT her words.

In Joran's PV he says that Natalee repeated herself 5 times about her Mom being Hitlers sister. All a bunch of lies to have certain people despise Natalee and her family...As far as Taco goes he is trying to make the ALE out to be idiots. Like when he mentioned that the Kalpoe car was never forensicly tested.

They must have had the gun to her head at that point saying, "My mother is Hitler's sister; repeat after us five times before we slit your throat."

[Dayhiker]

after reading about the bigotry from Renfro on that site, I started thinking that maye the "slave" and "hitler" line came from renfro when she was helping joran get a story together

Hitler is rarely spoken of in this country. His legacy is much more remembered by peoples in Europe, especially those in countires that were overrun by the tyrant. Like Holland. This is more likely where the Hitler remark originated, from the minds of the Natalee bashing Van der Scum.

[blah]

Interesting how Mathews website had a paragraph or 2 about how renfro's paper slammed him and his family much the same way she slammed Beth and Natalee and now none of that can be found.....

[Tylergal]

Rob, I think they placed all the race cards against Natalee they could and now they are going to try to make the connection between Natalee and Jossy's family who have been known to participate in drug dealing.  This is the only plausible explanation for their far-fetched stupid scenario.  I think if Cohen was going to make a movie about the south that is honest, he should spend at least an hour here so that he knows the demographic of Alabama is as diverse as any state.  While our governor was not afraid to speak out for Natalee, he still has very broad support amongst all races and religions and and the reason he remains very popular here and is being considered as a potential running mate for some presidential candidates, some whose knees buckle when they need to stand up for their country.

[Observer]

Just boggles my mind..KJ actually inquired to our justice dept about there trip to Austria and being related to Hitler. Dompig on National TV saying she did drugs and probably caused her own death by OD. Renfro worked behind the scenes spreading as much garbage as she could think of.

No one ever mentioned what these Pimps did every weekend. Not once did they mention the possibilty of her being drugged at C&C by predaters. Clear and precise who they were protecting.

[sharon]

http://tinyurl.com/27ar4g


If this our Ernesto -- looks like his divorce was finalized in January of this year. In the Miami courts.

[Easywriter]

Just boggles my mind..KJ actually inquired to our justice dept about there trip to Austria and being related to Hitler. Dompig on National TV saying she did drugs and probably caused her own death by OD. Renfro worked behind the scenes spreading as much garbage as she could think of.

No one ever mentioned what these Pimps did every weekend. Not once did they mention the possibilty of her being drugged at C&C by predaters. Clear and precise who they were protecting.

Renfro started working this thing immediately.  At first I thought she was just taking her shot at getting into the international spotlight, but now I am not so certain of that.  It looks more like she was running interference for someone from the start, beginning with the posters and the cell number.

If that is true, she should spend time sitting in jail right next to the rest of them!  

[bleachedblack]

check it out, the web archives has Mathews site, its a little slow to load

http://web.archive.org/web/20060205184109/http://savesannicolas.com/

3 version you can click on here(under 2006):
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.savesannicolas.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20051213230608/www.savesannicolas.com/articles.php?news_id=1

Another article of interest at the same San Nicholas site, has everyone read this?Notice the contact at the bottom.

http://web.archive.org/web/20051213230608/www.savesannicolas.com/articles.php?news_id=1

[Tylergal]

Just boggles my mind..KJ actually inquired to our justice dept about there trip to Austria and being related to Hitler. Dompig on National TV saying she did drugs and probably caused her own death by OD. Renfro worked behind the scenes spreading as much garbage as she could think of.

No one ever mentioned what these Pimps did every weekend. Not once did they mention the possibilty of her being drugged at C&C by predaters. Clear and precise who they were protecting.

Renfro started working this thing immediately.  At first I thought she was just taking her shot at getting into the international spotlight, but now I am not so certain of that.  It looks more like she was running interference for someone from the start, beginning with the posters and the cell number.

If that is true, she should spend time sitting in jail right next to the rest of them!  

Note the new tone in her rag, is no longer about massage-parlor and beach activity, places to eat.  It is about Joran's book and the corruption therein.  Did she decide it was time she go after the other guys and help clean up the island from those who have helped it and turn herself into a cinderella.  What a media prostitute, who finds the issue of the day as her own.