Lively Case Discussion #487 7/5 - 7/6/2006

[NM]

Hey Memere,
I believe the "family reunion" was in FL.

Tgal,
I won't forget, and I wait for the time that I/we can, in kind, return the courtesies to those people.

How did he get to FLorida?  Wouldn't there be documentation?

Hey San, I hope you are rapidly recovering!!

You would think but it is probably not nec for a suspect to produce any evidence of an alibi.  Or you can just take a crayon and a piece of construction paper and write "so-and-so went to FL signed the airline"  and that would suffice.

[thirdstrike]

Hey all!  Back from lunch...

What's going on in here?  Anything interesting?

Hey 3rd,
Saw Fantastic Burritto (Fantasia ?sp) sing Purple Rain in Philly last night. (not the best rendition)
Afterwards, it rained all the colors of the rainbow.

Although I do dig Fantasia, anyone other then P should pretty much stay away from that song...ya know?  

[San]

Hey Memere,
I believe the "family reunion" was in FL.

Tgal,
I won't forget, and I wait for the time that I/we can, in kind, return the courtesies to those people.

How did he get to FLorida?  Wouldn't there be documentation?

Hey San, I hope you are rapidly recovering!!

You would think but it is probably not nec for a suspect to produce any evidence of an alibi.  Or you can just take a crayon and a piece of construction paper and write "so-and-so went to FL signed the airline"  and that would suffice.

LOL...Hi NM.  I guess that's works for Aruba.

[Mere]

I would believe either Arubagirl or Tito as Simian.  Both fit the description, in my opinion.

Which SM poster thought it was AG because AG and Simian were never on the board at the same time....?

[flyingmermaid]

Hi MeMere My bud!

I am making chili in my crock pot some for dinner and some for my neighbor across the street who just lost his Mother.  He loves my Chili I will take him a big tupperware and a sympathy card.

We are very casual bout that kinda thing around here!

Chili, huh?  I actually make a pretty good Chili myself.  What kind are you making Mrs Mermaid?  

Oh, where are my manners...how are you today?  Have a good 4th of July weekend?  

Some ground beef some small cube tomatoes, onion, chili powder , beer, etc. it's in the crock pot so it will be good.

To me the magic is in the toppings!

[thirdstrike]

Hi MeMere My bud!

I am making chili in my crock pot some for dinner and some for my neighbor across the street who just lost his Mother.  He loves my Chili I will take him a big tupperware and a sympathy card.

We are very casual bout that kinda thing around here!

Chili, huh?  I actually make a pretty good Chili myself.  What kind are you making Mrs Mermaid?  

Oh, where are my manners...how are you today?  Have a good 4th of July weekend?  

Some ground beef some small cube tomatoes, onion, chili powder , beer, etc. it's in the crock pot so it will be good.

To me the magic is in the toppings!

Sounds good!!  I often use ground turkey in mine.  I've also used a meat from a roast that's been pressure cooked (very extensively).  Meat falls right off the bones, and into the cooking chili.  I've also added mexican steak (Asada) as well.  Good stuff...

[flyingmermaid]

Hi MeMere My bud!

I am making chili in my crock pot some for dinner and some for my neighbor across the street who just lost his Mother.  He loves my Chili I will take him a big tupperware and a sympathy card.

We are very casual bout that kinda thing around here!

Chili, huh?  I actually make a pretty good Chili myself.  What kind are you making Mrs Mermaid?  

Oh, where are my manners...how are you today?  Have a good 4th of July weekend?  

Some ground beef some small cube tomatoes, onion, chili powder , beer, etc. it's in the crock pot so it will be good.

To me the magic is in the toppings!

I heart 4 day weekends!

[flyingmermaid]

sorry gotta go!

[igsigs]

I would believe either Arubagirl or Tito as Simian.  Both fit the description, in my opinion.

Which SM poster thought it was AG because AG and Simian were never on the board at the same time....?

Petunia, IIRC.

[the big hammer]

Code Word "Rumour"

We know for fact a call was made to MBHS student phone.  The call was subject of Greta interview w/ Beth long ago during which Beth said she believed the female voice on phone was her daughter, Natalee, who said in the recorded message: "I don't know these people..."

We know for fact as stated by jvds that he misrepresented himself to MBHS students in casino claiming that he was 19, staying at HI, exchange student, soccer player, etc.  jvds admitted to same (alternately) during interviews w/ Greta, and other places as well.

We know for a fact that Natalee entered a car and was driven away: asportation.  We also know once Natalee entered the car of deepak, she was never seen alive again, by any of her travel mates or family.

We know for a fact the words of Spencer Bachus.  What he said is important and why he says it is also important.  He said "...this was not a teen who wandered off..."  He requested the "heavy" involvement of the FBI.

Alana Jordan said that Natalee indicated she was returning to the holiday inn outside of C&C's.

Let us understand the words of Charles Croes, who has been dismissed by HT Family as unhelpful (at best), carry zero weight compared to Beth's own words re: call.  And no one ever said that Natalee rented a phone from him.  He has been spectacularly remiss in his duties as Digicel franchisee and license holder in claiming that he was unable to get originating information for call made at 3:00am.

SO, re: kidnapping / abduction ...

Let us also assume that BHT would ID her daughter's voice on the call and sign an affadavit, as well as agree to testify as witness.  (Let's table the likelihood that FBI has done voice analysis and not made results public.)

And let us make a presumption:  let us presume for a second that the "code word" rumor is not a rumor at all.  Let us presume it is true, and has the meaning previously stated.

What would you say then about kidnapping / abduction?

[klaasend]

Code Word "Rumour"

We know for fact a call was made to MBHS student phone.  The call was subject of Greta interview w/ Beth long ago during which Beth said she believed the female voice on phone was her daughter, Natalee, who said in the recorded message: "I don't know these people..."

We know for fact as stated by jvds that he misrepresented himself to MBHS students in casino claiming that he was 19, staying at HI, exchange student, soccer player, etc.  jvds admitted to same (alternately) during interviews w/ Greta, and other places as well.

We know for a fact that Natalee entered a car and was driven away: asportation.  We also know once Natalee entered the car of deepak, she was never seen alive again, by any of her travel mates or family.

We know for a fact the words of Spencer Bachus.  What he said is important and why he says it is also important.  He said "...this was not a teen who wandered off..."  He requested the "heavy" involvement of the FBI.

Alana Jordan said that Natalee indicated she was returning to the holiday inn outside of C&C's.

Let us understand the words of Charles Croes, who has been dismissed by HT Family as unhelpful (at best), carry zero weight compared to Beth's own words re: call.  And no one ever said that Natalee rented a phone from him.  He has been spectacularly remiss in his duties as Digicel franchisee and license holder in claiming that he was unable to get originating information for call made at 3:00am.

SO, re: kidnapping / abduction ...

Let us also assume that BHT would ID her daughter's voice on the call and sign an affadavit, as well as agree to testify as witness.  (Let's table the likelihood that FBI has done voice analysis and not made results public.)

And let us make a presumption:  let us presume for a second that the "code word" rumor is not a rumor at all.  Let us presume it is true, and has the meaning previously stated.

What would you say then about kidnapping / abduction?

I'd say: WHERE ARE THE KIDNAPPING CHARGES?

[Tylergal]

I would believe either Arubagirl or Tito as Simian.  Both fit the description, in my opinion.

Which SM poster thought it was AG because AG and Simian were never on the board at the same time....?[/quote

Memere, you are so cute.  I love your smiley self.  

Several of us.

[Tylergal]

I would believe either Arubagirl or Tito as Simian.  Both fit the description, in my opinion.

Which SM poster thought it was AG because AG and Simian were never on the board at the same time....?

Petunia, IIRC.

[Anna]

.
Doing a drive by as eyes still tired but Natalee's last known words were to Alana Jordan to whom she said she was going back to the HI

WITH THEM she said pointing to a group of MB students in front
of her.  She did not speak to nor acknowledge Joran's presence behind her.

Just a tiny detail but I think  it is important to keep it straight that she did indicate with whom she would be returning to the HI only minutes before she ended up in the car with the suspects.

.

[igsigs]

Also, MF at FOB said this morning that it appears Dompig will be out of a job very soon.

Not soon enough for that tub of goo. And Glenda/Julia says he is going to be a medical doctor . Maybe he can be lab partners with Dr. Satish...whenever that Einstein finishes high school.

[Houdini]

The Big Hammer wrote:

What would you say then about kidnapping / abduction?

I'd say there were a hell of a lot of assumptions, presumptions and felonious deductions.

We all KNOW it, we just can't PROVE it.

Come on Hammer, just saying it doesn't make it so.  We aren't much if we don't recognize that we have to find something a little more "solid" than probable speculation.

Someone or something is out there that is going to bust this thing wide open.

[igsigs]

So, is it now J2KF...J2KA...or J2KZ?

How about FJ2K?

[Shizaru]

Code Word "Rumour"

We know for fact a call was made to MBHS student phone.  The call was subject of Greta interview w/ Beth long ago during which Beth said she believed the female voice on phone was her daughter, Natalee, who said in the recorded message: "I don't know these people..."

We know for fact as stated by jvds that he misrepresented himself to MBHS students in casino claiming that he was 19, staying at HI, exchange student, soccer player, etc.  jvds admitted to same (alternately) during interviews w/ Greta, and other places as well.

We know for a fact that Natalee entered a car and was driven away: asportation.  We also know once Natalee entered the car of deepak, she was never seen alive again, by any of her travel mates or family.

We know for a fact the words of Spencer Bachus.  What he said is important and why he says it is also important.  He said "...this was not a teen who wandered off..."  He requested the "heavy" involvement of the FBI.

Alana Jordan said that Natalee indicated she was returning to the holiday inn outside of C&C's.

Let us understand the words of Charles Croes, who has been dismissed by HT Family as unhelpful (at best), carry zero weight compared to Beth's own words re: call.  And no one ever said that Natalee rented a phone from him.  He has been spectacularly remiss in his duties as Digicel franchisee and license holder in claiming that he was unable to get originating information for call made at 3:00am.

SO, re: kidnapping / abduction ...

Let us also assume that BHT would ID her daughter's voice on the call and sign an affadavit, as well as agree to testify as witness.  (Let's table the likelihood that FBI has done voice analysis and not made results public.)

And let us make a presumption:  let us presume for a second that the "code word" rumor is not a rumor at all.  Let us presume it is true, and has the meaning previously stated.

What would you say then about kidnapping / abduction?

 

I do not believe Beth ever confirmed a female caller saying "I don't know these people".

[oldfart]

Hi Monkeys..
Just stopping in for a bit.. but I must say I just love the name of new place I learned about (out here today) Canashito

Seems  all encompassing to me  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Yes, Canashito, revisited....known of some Bagashitos, in my lifetime...  

Some good review with older posts today.