Natalee Case Discussion #846 9/12/10 - 9/21/10

[Ono]

NBC Today Show has JQK on:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/39228890#39228890

Thanks for the link--I am so proud and inspired by Beth's bravery & courage--Go Beth!!!

[2NJSons_Mom]

I don't think they're holding hands. I think it's just the camera angle. Isn't Peter married?

Spoil Sports!! 

I noticed the same and thought he may have taken her hand to get through the media crowd (as a gentleman would).

[Ono]

NBC Today Show has JQK on:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/39228890#39228890

I love JQK, he's the best! 

He really is ...   

[jill]

bet J pooped his pants when he saw her face.

GO BETH!

[Tamikosmom]

I don't think they're holding hands. I think it's just the camera angle. Isn't Peter married?

No comment.

 

Janet

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Jo-An
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 -
« Reply #1313 on: June 16, 2010, 05:06:32 PM »

O/T Bad news for all Peter de Vries fans, he has a new lover, 17 years his junior and she´s the editor in chief at a couple of RTL-shows.


can
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 -
« Reply #1304 on: June 16, 2010, 04:56:20 PM »

uh oh...but what about his wife?!


Jo-An
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 -
« Reply #1313 on: June 16, 2010, 05:06:32 PM »

They have an open relationship. *roll eyes* She´s totally fine with it.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8111.msg1162277#msg1162277

[Nut44x4]

I don't think they're holding hands. I think it's just the camera angle. Isn't Peter married?

Spoil Sports!! 

I noticed the same and thought he may have taken her hand to get through the media crowd (as a gentleman would).

I'll have to agree with this.

[klaasend]

I don't think they're holding hands. I think it's just the camera angle. Isn't Peter married?

I think it was just a safety issue, maybe making it look like they were a couple to not look suspicious?

[Irish Monkey]

Forgive me if this has already been posted....

http://joranisonschuldig.blogspot.com/

It appears Mommy has created a website for Joran.   

[seemeatthebeach]

NBC Today Show has JQK on:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/39228890#39228890

I love JQK, he's the best! 

JQK is a CLASS act!


He really is ...   

[SuzieQ]

The Natalee Holloway Resource Center posted this link:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/17/holloway.case/index.html

(CNN) -- The mother of missing American teen Natalee Holloway met with the man suspected in her daughter's disappearance this week at the Peruvian prison where he is being held in another woman's death, attorneys for both sides said Friday.

Beth Holloway is in Peru with a Dutch documentary maker. Producers for the the Dutch journalist who is accompanying her posted a note on his website that said journalist Peter de Vries and the mother made a trip to Castro Castro prison to see suspect Joran van der Sloot.

Beth Holloway's attorney, John Q. Kelly, confirmed the trip to CNN Friday saying, "She was at Castro Castro prison and she saw Joran."

Van der Sloot's attorney, Lima Maximo Altez, also confirmed the meeting, telling CNN that it took place on Wednesday -- female visitor day at the prison. 

Altez said Holloway arrived with a group of Dutch journalists and asked to meet prison officials.

Altez said van der Sloot was brought to the meeting "practically by force."

Peru's "24 Horas" television program reported that Holloway spoke to van der Sloot for about five minutes before van der Sloot canceled the meeting because his lawyer was not present. The program reported that they spoke very little and treated each other well.

According to Altez, Holloway told van der Sloot that she doesn't have any hatred in her heart towards him. Van der Sloot replied that he understood, but that he couldn't talk to her further, and handed her his attorney's business card, Altez said.

Holloway has not reached out to Altez, he said.

Kelly told CNN that Holloway didn't initially tell him about her planned trip to Peru until after she was already in the country.

"She just said she wanted to see Joran, she didn't give me any of the substance of what she was going to talk about," he told NBC's "Today."

Kelly said he spoke to Holloway after she saw van der Sloot, but told CNN he doesn't know what she said or how long she spent with van der Sloot.

"She's been very guarded," he told "Today."

De Vries said the crew did not break any rules and prison officials knew of their visit.

However, Castro Castro spokesman Bruno Guzman told CNN Thursday that Holloway was never allowed inside the prison.

De Vries denied media reports that prison authorities detained them and confiscated the documentary crew's gear. Kelly also shot down those reports.

"I know she definitely wasn't arrested. ... Nothing was taken from her. It was done without violating any laws or breaking any regulations," Kelly told "Today."

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[klaasend]

Likely a repost:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/17/holloway.case/?hpt=Sbin

Natalee Holloway's mother meets with van der Sloot
By the CNN Wire Staff

(CNN) -- The mother of missing American teen Natalee Holloway met with the man suspected in her daughter's disappearance this week at the Peruvian prison where he is being held in another woman's death, attorneys for both sides said Friday.

Beth Holloway is in Peru with a Dutch documentary maker. Producers for the the Dutch journalist who is accompanying her posted a note on his website that said journalist Peter de Vries and the mother made a trip to Castro Castro prison to see suspect Joran van der Sloot.

Beth Holloway's attorney, John Q. Kelly, confirmed the trip to CNN Friday saying, "She was at Castro Castro prison and she saw Joran."

Van der Sloot's attorney, Lima Maximo Altez, also confirmed the meeting, telling CNN that it took place on Wednesday -- female visitor day at the prison.

Altez said Holloway arrived with a group of Dutch journalists and asked to meet prison officials.

Altez said van der Sloot was brought to the meeting "practically by force." 

Peru's "24 Horas" television program reported that Holloway spoke to van der Sloot for about five minutes before van der Sloot canceled the meeting because his lawyer was not present. The program reported that they spoke very little and treated each other well.

According to Altez, Holloway told van der Sloot that she doesn't have any hatred in her heart towards him. Van der Sloot replied that he understood, but that he couldn't talk to her further, and handed her his attorney's business card, Altez said.

Holloway has not reached out to Altez, he said.

Kelly told CNN that Holloway didn't initially tell him about her planned trip to Peru until after she was already in the country.

"She just said she wanted to see Joran, she didn't give me any of the substance of what she was going to talk about," he told NBC's "Today."

Kelly said he spoke to Holloway after she saw van der Sloot, but told CNN he doesn't know what she said or how long she spent with van der Sloot.

"She's been very guarded," he told "Today."

De Vries said the crew did not break any rules and prison officials knew of their visit.

However, Castro Castro spokesman Bruno Guzman told CNN Thursday that Holloway was never allowed inside the prison.

De Vries denied media reports that prison authorities detained them and confiscated the documentary crew's gear. Kelly also shot down those reports.

"I know she definitely wasn't arrested. ... Nothing was taken from her. It was done without violating any laws or breaking any regulations," Kelly told "Today."

Early Friday morning, the receptionist at the Sheraton hotel in Lima, Peru, told CNN that Holloway was in her room, where she checked in by herself.

A woman in the room answered the phone in English, then immediately hung up.

Kelly told "Today" that he doesn't believe Holloway's purpose in meeting with van der Sloot -- whom he has called a "pathological liar" -- was to get answers out of him. Instead, Kelly said, "I think it was more to deliver the message that he might be in Peru but she hasn't gone away. She's determined to get answers, and you know, she wants to bring Natalee home."

Van der Sloot is imprisoned awaiting trial on a murder charge in the death of Peruvian student Stephany Flores.

Flores body was found in May in a hotel room registered to van der Sloot, which the two were seen entering on surveillance camera video.

He also is charged with a count of wire fraud and a count of extortion in Alabama for allegedly trying to extort more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for disclosing the location of her body.

Natalee Holloway was last seen in the early hours of May 30, 2005, leaving an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub with van der Sloot and two other men, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. She was visiting the island with about 100 classmates to celebrate their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama.

Van der Sloot was arrested twice in Aruba in connection with the younger Holloway's disappearance, but was never charged.

He has denied responsibility for her disappearance.

In a jailhouse interview with a Dutch television station this month, van der Sloot said he is remorseful for telling so many stories regarding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, but once again denied culpability in the case.

[SuzieQ]

I just have to post this picture I borrowed from Joran's Facebook Fan page.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_78319.php

Google translation:

Beth Holloway prison visits Peru

September 17, 2010, 14:30 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY / LIMA - Beth Holloway, the mother of Natalee disappeared in Aruba in 2005, has partnered with crime reporter Peter R. de Vries in Peru. They visited the Castro Castro high-security prison where Joran van der Sloot is trapped.

This confirmed De Vries on his website. He denies the rumors that Beth in Peru when she was arrested with a hidden camera, the Castro Castro prison tried to enter. The rumors circulating in various media. According to these reports attempted the mother of American teenager with a crime reporter to visit Joran, who is still in custody on suspicion of murder Stephany Flores. Beth was a brief interview after prison again plotted.

De Vries shows on his site know that "neither he nor Beth nor any other member of the crew has been arrested or detained." 'Any message that suggests or implies is utterly wrong. He also denies that hidden camera equipment or recordings were seized. He stressed that "nothing has been done or done that was contrary to previous agreements and rules in Peru or in the Castro Castro prison.

Or what exactly happened and why they are in Peru, the crime reporter will not lose. The only thing that was announced, De Vries is a documentary about the activities with Beth Holloway. The documentary is expected to soon the Dutch station SBS 6 broadcast. It tells exactly what purpose they have traveled to Peru and what their findings.

Popular
The media attention for the murder suspect Joran has also brought a fan. A foundation spokesman "Prisoners in Peru", according to Dutch media said that the Netherlands more endorsements for Joran come. "It shall be women who are bad men," said a spokesman in AD.

[Anna]

I don't think they're holding hands. I think it's just the camera angle. Isn't Peter married?

No comment.

 

Janet

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Jo-An
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 -
« Reply #1313 on: June 16, 2010, 05:06:32 PM »

O/T Bad news for all Peter de Vries fans, he has a new lover, 17 years his junior and she´s the editor in chief at a couple of RTL-shows.


can
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 -
« Reply #1304 on: June 16, 2010, 04:56:20 PM »

uh oh...but what about his wife?!


Jo-An
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #839 6/14/10 -
« Reply #1313 on: June 16, 2010, 05:06:32 PM »

They have an open relationship. *roll eyes* She´s totally fine with it.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8111.msg1162277#msg1162277

Yes and a formal apology and retraction was issued for this report.

Because something is "reported" doesn't make it a fact.

[Anna]

It seems to me that the main ones putting out the claim of Beth being arrested are the Arubans and the Dutch.

Huummm . . .

Now what if we all copy those reports even thought they are inaccurate and repeat them forever more as fact?

Well, I never did think Peru arrested her and said so early on in this. 

It's strictly Aruban/Dutch wishful thinking! 

Dream on!  Other countries do not attack the victims.

[Nut44x4]

I don't think they're holding hands. I think it's just the camera angle. Isn't Peter married?

I think it was just a safety issue, maybe making it look like they were a couple to not look suspicious?

I'll have to agree with this....too.

Oh SuzieQ.....that's gross!

[klaasend]

It seems to me that the main ones putting out the claim of Beth being arrested are the Arubans and the Dutch.

Huummm . . .

Now what if we all copy those reports even thought they are inaccurate and repeat them forever more as fact?

Well, I never did think Peru arrested her and said so early on in this. 

It's strictly Aruban/Dutch wishful thinking! 

Dream on!  Other countries do not attack the victims.

Anna - Beth did nothing wrong so why would she be arrested?  My guess is once Joran learned who and why they were there he asked them to leave.

Beth simply showing up there will piss Joran off.  He's likely to do something stupid again. 

[Lifesong]

You know, I'm sure there are those that will criticize Beth for doing this.  I guess they'd be more comfortable if she would just quietly accept her fate, put on a badge of powerlessness and just cry herself to sleep for the rest of her life.  How many untold victims do just exactly that? 

I read the comments by the Flores family attorney (in one of the posted articles) about Beth being paid to take part in a dutch media soap opera, or something like that.  His words irritated me at first, but I get where he's coming from, I think.  He has a case to win and he doesn't want anything to jeopardize that - he doesn't want Joran to have one winnable point against the prison or the courts.  I get it.

But let's be honest.  The Flores family even, despite their tragic loss and terrible pain, will still never know the depth of Beth's struggle.  They will have a trial, their day in court, and most likely, justice for Stephany.  All while Joran continues to lie about Natalee and to taunt Beth, and all of Natalee's family.

I'm sure Beth could have turned down Peter de Vries' offer to go to Peru, I admire her so much for saying yes again, for not giving up, not giving in to fear, not settling for someone else's justice.  Natalee still needs to come home.

Forty years, Aruba.  I do believe she meant it.



PS - Hey Anita, how much hate is your heart?

[Magnolia]

Since Joran killed Stephany, Anita has been all over the place drumming up sympathy for
herself and Joran.  Joran said that he would only give an interview for $1,000,000.

Books are being published saying that Joran was just an innocent teenager until Beth
hounded him for five years.
Pictures have been published of Joran living it up in Castro Castro...watching soccer, playing
cards with the Columbian Clown.

It seems that people in NL have forgotten the victims...Natalee and Stephany.  I have been
furious about the whole situation and can only imagine how Beth must feel.

I say hooray for Beth and Peter for bringing the focus back where it belongs and remindng
Joran that he can run, but he can't hide from the mother of at least one of his victims.

I don't think Peter had to pay Beth a dime.  I think she went into that prison with her heart
a'pounding.

[crazybabyborg]

It seems to me that the main ones putting out the claim of Beth being arrested are the Arubans and the Dutch.

Huummm . . .

Now what if we all copy those reports even thought they are inaccurate and repeat them forever more as fact?

Well, I never did think Peru arrested her and said so early on in this. 

It's strictly Aruban/Dutch wishful thinking! 

Dream on!  Other countries do not attack the victims.

Anna - Beth did nothing wrong so why would she be arrested?  My guess is once Joran learned who and why they were there he asked them to leave.

Beth simply showing up there will piss Joran off.  He's likely to do something stupid again. 

Running behind you all from work (YUK), but just watched the video of JQK this morning. I almost cried when he said that Beth's purpose wasn't to get information from Joran (she didn't expect truth from him anyway) but to tell Joran she wasn't going away.

Wow........ never, ever, underestimate Natalee's Mom!! YOU GO BETH!!!