SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[CapsLockWizard]

There was a party in the Brickel that night..

Who is the dice trower Name in the casino

Guido Wever worked in the casino as a croupier.

From Aruban Who's Who:
WEVER, Guido– 19 years old, former resident of Aruba, now residing in the NL.  Was a croupier at the Excelsior Casino.  Said to have left Aruba abruptly within weeks of Natalee’s disappearance after being questioned by ALE. Reported to be good friends with Joran, and gambling with him on May 30/31 when Natalee’s loved ones arrived in Aruba.  Arrested on 5-20-06, released on 5-23-06, under suspicion of accessory to murder, kidnapping and battery.  Drove a white Nissan Sentra.  Interviewed by ALE on 4 occasions, 6/3-05, 6-7-05, 6-8-05 & 6-23-05.
For more information see Who’s Who – Victim, Suspects, Witnesses & Families

ok we got the killer

The problem with guido Wever is that he was pull off to play at a private party game in the Brickel bay. He was the dealer at this private gambling game that was going down in the brickel bay.

Here is another findings MP had 2 drug buyer/killer hidden card also and when the deal went sour with the young visibility team, they went back to the brickel party, but at that time, Joran was going to use the hotel for a score. but their she discovert

[CapsLockWizard]

all on the list MBOX Rev4

[jackb]

There was a party in the Brickel that night..

Who is the dice trower Name in the casino

Guido Wever worked in the casino as a croupier.

From Aruban Who's Who:
WEVER, Guido– 19 years old, former resident of Aruba, now residing in the NL.  Was a croupier at the Excelsior Casino.  Said to have left Aruba abruptly within weeks of Natalee’s disappearance after being questioned by ALE. Reported to be good friends with Joran, and gambling with him on May 30/31 when Natalee’s loved ones arrived in Aruba.  Arrested on 5-20-06, released on 5-23-06, under suspicion of accessory to murder, kidnapping and battery.  Drove a white Nissan Sentra.  Interviewed by ALE on 4 occasions, 6/3-05, 6-7-05, 6-8-05 & 6-23-05.
For more information see Who’s Who – Victim, Suspects, Witnesses & Families

ok we got the killer

The problem with guido Wever is that he was pull off to play at a private party game in the Brickel bay. He was the dealer at this private gambling game that was going down in the brickel bay.

Here is another findings MP had 2 drug buyer/killer hidden card also and when the deal went sour with the young visibility team, they went back to the brickel party, but at that time, Joran was going to use the hotel for a score. but their she discovert

Are you just sending certain people information?  I want to know what you have, if you can.  I agree that Guido is one killer.  Where does GVC fit in in your work?

[CapsLockWizard]

check with klassend:

[jackb]

There was a party in the Brickel that night..

Who is the dice trower Name in the casino

Guido Wever worked in the casino as a croupier.

From Aruban Who's Who:
WEVER, Guido– 19 years old, former resident of Aruba, now residing in the NL.  Was a croupier at the Excelsior Casino.  Said to have left Aruba abruptly within weeks of Natalee’s disappearance after being questioned by ALE. Reported to be good friends with Joran, and gambling with him on May 30/31 when Natalee’s loved ones arrived in Aruba.  Arrested on 5-20-06, released on 5-23-06, under suspicion of accessory to murder, kidnapping and battery.  Drove a white Nissan Sentra.  Interviewed by ALE on 4 occasions, 6/3-05, 6-7-05, 6-8-05 & 6-23-05.
For more information see Who’s Who – Victim, Suspects, Witnesses & Families

ok we got the killer

The problem with guido Wever is that he was pull off to play at a private party game in the Brickel bay. He was the dealer at this private gambling game that was going down in the brickel bay.

Here is another findings MP had 2 drug buyer/killer hidden card also and when the deal went sour with the young visibility team, they went back to the brickel party, but at that time, Joran was going to use the hotel for a score. but their she discovert

Are you just sending certain people information?  I want to know what you have, if you can.  I agree that Guido is one killer.  Where does GVC fit in in your work?

One of the Kalpoes mentioned seeing a vis. team car or some ALE car and turned off to keep from passing because of "seatbealt."  I believe that GVC kid came on the scene later, perhaps in that car.  He was around.  I believe the whole thing was set up, perhaps Guido got jealous of NH.  I hope you can send me some information, or post it on the Simian blog so we can all have access to it.   You sound like you are "in the know" on this information. I feel pretty confident in that at this time.   jack b

[klaasend]

Texasmom - thanks I've fixed the name in the Aruban Who's Who

Caps - I'm a little slow today, not feeling great.

[jackb]

Texasmom - thanks I've fixed the name in the Aruban Who's Who

Caps - I'm a little slow today, not feeling great.

Klaas, I am sorry you do not feel well.  Take care.  When you have time please mail me, if you can what CAPS sent.  You have my e-mail.  He is a smart dude.  I wanna see what he has to say.  Also CAPS:  thanks for all you do and have done.  Hope to get to know you better.   Sounds like you have been working.    Jack b

[texasmom]

Texasmom - thanks I've fixed the name in the Aruban Who's Who

Caps - I'm a little slow today, not feeling great.

Thanks Klaas!   and I hope you feel better soon! 

[MumInOhio]

Thanks Buckeye for posting this…What is really interesting is the date of the post. This was early on in the case. I am assuming the text on the onderlegger is Carlos & Charleys…wonder if that is a matchbook, maybe. Still interested in a protected witness….really interested…

Quote Buckeye:
I don't remember seeing that, in the book.  I did save a post from an old amigoe.com/forum.  Now I wonder if the duct tape did have evidence that got put in a "hidey hole".   

Posted by Carlton June 20, 2005

Beste mensen,

Van betrouwbare bronnen heb ik begrepen dat er op die tape de volgende dingen te vinden waren:

3 blonde haren (volgens DNA van Holloway)
7 zwarte haren(sluik haar, 2 verschillende eigenaren, eogenaren onbekend)
2 blonde haren (onbekend)
6 spermacellen (vooralsnog onbekend)
restanten van wat "lichaamsvocht" zou zijn geweest (bevestigd Holloway)
1 fragment roest (waarschijnlijk van een anker)
1 stukje vis
1 onderlegger met de text: "Ca....s & .har...s"
wat zand

Op basis hiervan denkt de politie de verdwijning spoedig te kunnen oplossen.


Google translation:

Dear people,

From reliable sources, I understand that in this tape the following things to be found were:

3 blonde hair (according DNA of Holloway)
7 black hair (sluik hair, 2 different owners, eogenaren unknown)
2 blonde hair (unknown)
6 sperm (currently unknown)
Remnants of what "body fluid" would have been (confirmed Holloway)
1 fragment rust (probably an anchor)
1 piece of fish
1 onderlegger with the text: "Ca .... s &. Har ... s"
What sand

On this basis the police believe the disappearance soon to be resolved.

 

http://www.amigoe.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002050;p=29

[MumInOhio]

What happens in Act III (Resolution)?

Climax (Second Culmination)--The point at which the plot reaches its maximum tension and the forces in opposition confront each other at a peak of physical or emotional action.

A couple I picked up on this….though BB’s is a little more profound…

The Third Act: Writing a Great Ending to Your Screenplay - Google Books Result
by Drew Yanno - 2006 - Performing Arts - 176 pagesThis screenwriting instructional book offers a structure for the writer to follow when writing the last act of their script.books.google.com/books?isbn=0826418783...



http://www.scene-stealers.com/print-reviews/i-am-legend-stumbles-in-third-act/


The third act is where “I Am Legend” finally, fatally trips itself up. A couple of key revelations seem like they are leading somewhere and suddenly, the film is over.

[MumInOhio]

hence the surveillance?

COLUMBO...I believe that what was caught on tape was from surveillance...FOP/DEA....and it could not be used as per the agreement between the 2 countries. It could only be used in drug cases.

Did you see the link to St Maarten in my post about Trudy Hassel, back on the last page?  These Aruban Police Commissioners sure do get around!

[MumInOhio]

Caps…bringing this forward. This post says that she had to resign, post dated 3-11-2005. IIRC, work permits come under Rudy Croes department. Also apparently Rudy appointed all these Police Commissioners…will have to find that from Getagrip. My question is, what did she resign from in March and how was she a Police Commissioner in June? Any info would be appreciated.  TIA


03-11-2005, 09:30 AM      post #2 (permalink)     
charles  Posts: n/a    Re: Charles "allegro construction"  I do not have the slightest idea who will be doing the work. Be sure to have your papers in order if you want to work here. They are very strong on this issue and one of our leading figures, Mrs. Trudy Hassel recently resigned due to an issue surrounding control of illegal workers. Touchy topic.Charlesarubafastphones.com

http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/charles-allegro-construction-410/

[COLOMBO]

hence the surveillance?

COLUMBO...I believe that what was caught on tape was from surveillance...FOP/DEA....and it could not be used as per the agreement between the 2 countries. It could only be used in drug cases.

Did you see the link to St Maarten in my post about Trudy Hassel, back on the last page?  These Aruban Police Commissioners sure do get around!

"The eyes of God look from afar with great acuity" (acuity=keeness of hearing, sight, intellect)

excerpt:
"ICE and the other federal agencies in Operation Caribbean Corridor — DEA, FBI and the US Coast Guard — are working together, efficiently and intelligently to stop the transshipment of drugs and other contraband in the Caribbean Basin," according to officials from ICE.
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/051019


didn't see the referenced St Maarten.....will check back.....

[CapsLockWizard]

Question?

Who said first that Natalee was a virgin? Who brought that peace of info and how it came about? and who made it public

[MumInOhio]

Question?

Who said first that Natalee was a virgin? Who brought that peace of info and how it came about? and who made it public

Morning Caps...I think I have an interview clip of one of the MB'ers, but could not say if that was the first we heard of it.  Will see if I can find it.

[Blonde]

Question?

Who said first that Natalee was a virgin? Who brought that peace of info and how it came about? and who made it public

I heard this from Beth on Fox News

[CapsLockWizard]

Question?

Who said first that Natalee was a virgin? Who brought that peace of info and how it came about? and who made it public

Morning Caps...I think I have an interview clip of one of the MB'ers, but could not say if that was the first we heard of it.  Will see if I can find it.

Morning, Well Have progress a lot. the answer of the question above are important. the key it will produce will open the door too almost the end of the riddle.

CAPS

[bleachedblack]

jackb

One of the Kalpoes mentioned seeing a vis. team car or some ALE car and turned off to keep from passing because of "seatbealt."  I believe that GVC kid came on the scene later, perhaps in that car.  He was around.  I believe the whole thing was set up, perhaps Guido got jealous of NH.  I hope you can send me some information, or post it on the Simian blog so we can all have access to it.   You sound like you are "in the know" on this information. I feel pretty confident in that at this time.   jack b

Gee jackb see how it is about sharing information? On March 21st I asked you about a statement you made about M vd Berg and you replied something to the effect that you had done research and weren't apparently ready to share some info/photos that you had studied and resized. Well I just wanted to remind you about that...............

++++++++

jackb wrote;
His connection may be that he uses and maybe sells this videotaped stuff.  He was in Aruba for awhile.  He may still be connected there (or was.)  They have a market from these dirty old men who live in Thailand.  (note: JM Carr.)  Old martin had what appeared to be statues, at first of BTK killer, J. Gacy, Dahmer, and the likes in this room.  There were sever pictures of a "room" of his on there, but after I got the "doll and dollhouse" that particular room pic got taken down.  I have all this, however.  The statues were pictures of them and books on a shelf.  I really have done some work.  I have made my rounds on this, for sure.   Thanks.

bleachedblack wrote;
jackb hope you don't mind a few questions. How do you know Marten was definitely in Aruba? I have been aware of him and the speculative connections to this case from the beginning.....but sorry never heard of any statues, where did this information come from? I would appreciate it if you would please share some of your homework.

jackb wrote;
I do share it in the right time to whom I can.  Also the organized clubs in aruba will give you information about who belonged to what and what years.  Some in the 2005 era have been taken down, but there are others who have incomings of officers that precede the 2005 year and outgoing, etc.  Sort of like a chamber of commerce brag book.  It is best left said that some things people need to find and use if they can to support or not support where they are going.  If I put all that I have found and connected on this blog, no one else would have a chance to write or be heard and I would be backtracking in my work that I am doing.  I would also surmise that no one is going to go much past their own theories as it would just confuse.  I do stir the pot once in awhile, but for someone such as myself who would take tiny tiny pics off beer bottles in pics and enhance them to clear large pictures, I believe the tediousness of what I am doing would bore you to tears.  Jack b.

[bleachedblack]

Question?

Who said first that Natalee was a virgin? Who brought that peace of info and how it came about? and who made it public

Morning Caps...I think I have an interview clip of one of the MB'ers, but could not say if that was the first we heard of it.  Will see if I can find it.

Morning, Well Have progress a lot. the answer of the question above are important. the key it will produce will open the door too almost the end of the riddle.

CAPS

I believe the answer to your question is Beth Twitty first mentioned the fact. She was trying to make clear certain points regarding Natalee's character.

[MumInOhio]

Question?

Who said first that Natalee was a virgin? Who brought that peace of info and how it came about? and who made it public

I heard this from Beth on Fox News

Morning Blonde...I think the date would be hard to track down. I found it was on the blogs June 2005, and Beth has stated it in magazine articles. Unless someone can remember the date it would be very time consuming to find.