Natalee Case Discussion #780 11/26/08 - 12/3/08

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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

[MumInOhio]

Good Morning!

Tyler...do you still have that phone number...LOL

Will recheck Melody's posts a little later...need breakfast!


Thanks Yap

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=329.msg47506#msg47506 

Lively Case Discussion #522 9/10 - 9/12/2006 « Reply #137 on: September 10, 2006, 03:04:22 PM » 

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Proof Kalpoes did not pick JVDS up at his home?

1. Saturday 5-28-05: Melody went to a party. (Made notation on her calendar)
2. Sunday 5-29-05: Melody went to the movies with her new BF. (noted on calendar because it was when she & new BF shared their 1st kiss)
3. Says she saw JVDS leaning against a pillar very near Seaport Casino (turn corner & cross the road from theater?)
4. JVDS saw her with new BF & his face turned into a "hurt" face.
5. Says she knows the time was b4 12am (midnight)
6. Checked the current schedule for Seaport Cinema: Wednesday thru Tuesday earliest show is at 4:10pm, late shows are 10:10pm & 10:20pm
7. Deepak works @ Cyberzone Internet Cafe, Seaport Mall. (Sunday hours: 2pm - 10pm)
8. **On 8-3 BETH stated to "CNN” that while she was in Alabama BETH learned from a “Mountain Brook High School” male 2005 graduate that on 5-29 at 11:00 PM Prime Suspect J. SLOOT was already with Current Suspect D. KALPOE (he was not leaving the “Holiday Inn,” he was not walking towards or at the “McDonald’s” as he claimed, and he was not with Current Suspect P. SLOOT) and Prime Suspect J. SLOOT offered another “Mountain Brook High School” male a ride back to the “Holiday Inn.”
(from World Journier timeline)
 
So, if JVDS was already with Kalpoe by 11pm, where did they go b4 Carlos n Charlies? Sounds like PVDS changed the time he picked JVDS up @ McDonald's to again cover for the lying sporter
 

[johan555]

This is a Crab Cage

[Tylergal]

Mum, sorry I got busy eating grits ( ).  I know some of you cannot stand them ( ) but I have to have a fix about once a year ( ) and it was time.

That phone number has long since been gone.    You know how I know that, right?  She inadvertently posted it at RWV and some captured it before Dan took it down....but it was soon changed.  I had a feeling this was a phone the VDS family had given her to use but that is a long story and I expect her feelings toward the Sloots has probably changed.

[Tylergal]

This is a Crab Cage

Lord, have mercy! That looks like a cattle cage.

[MumInOhio]

Mum, sorry I got busy eating grits ( ).  I know some of you cannot stand them ( ) but I have to have a fix about once a year ( ) and it was time.

That phone number has long since been gone.    You know how I know that, right?  She inadvertently posted it at RWV and some captured it before Dan took it down....but it was soon changed.  I had a feeling this was a phone the VDS family had given her to use but that is a long story and I expect her feelings toward the Sloots has probably changed.

LOL...Tyler...Have never even tried grits!

No...I didn't recall the phone number story...lol...You have to be quick! Any chance the posts from Melody about those 2 nights were helped along by Anita?

I recall the interview Beth did, about Joran being seen and got sidetracked in Shango looking for it!

[Poochy]

Quote from: Poochy on November 25, 2008, 10:12:59 PM
Why did Amy Bradley's parents consider (and still do) their daughter alive?

Why did Beth tonight on Greta consider Natalee dead?

Does Beth know more than we know?

Greta asked Beth if she believed Natalee was still alive, to which Beth said no.

And I have a big problem with that.

How does Beth know Natalee is not alive anymore? The Bradley family knew the same info about their daughter as Beth did, yet they have kept a hopeful vigil and still do.

Now here we have Joran somewhat 'confessing' to selling Natalee but Beth is not interested in pursuing this road.

All I can say is that if one of my 'chicklings' went missing,  I'd be pursing all avenues until I found my missing chickling, being the 'mama chick that I am'. 

I don't get it I guess. Somebody help me understand this please why Beth has written Natalee off for not being alive any more.

Why did Amy Bradley's parents consider (and still do) their daughter alive?
   http://tinyurl.com/6hbhmz

BLEACHEDBLACK,

You missed my point.

My point was that Amy has been missing since March 1998.

The pics in your tinyurl surfaced in 2005 - SEVEN YEARS LATER.

The Bradleys have always held an 'Amy is Alive' vigil since day one.   

I was just wondering why Beth doesn't think Natalee is not alive - that's all - since almost day one.

What I got from last night was Greta trying to give Beth hope that perhaps Natalee could still be alive, but Beth told her no.

My question is what does Beth know that makes her so sure Natalee is not alive?


(Amy link below)

http://www.amybradley.net/amy-story.htm

 

[BTgirl]

Hi Poochy,

I think one reason Beth was pretty sure early on that Natalee had died was because she was told that Natalee probably was, based on the amount of blood in the Kalpoes' car. You know - the blood that miraculously turned to chocolate later on. 

[MumInOhio]

Hi BT and Poochy...IIRC Beth was told this pretty much by the FBI around 10.30PM on June 10th. in the HI lobby. Well that is what was in a lot of the early posts.

There are some interviews around with Paul Reynolds about this as well. One I recall is about Beth calling her Mom.

[MumInOhio]

Blonde...Is the door locked?  How are you posting in the old thread...I am confused enough this morning...LOL

[Blonde]

I didn't know it was locked.
I can post because I'm a MOD
I will bring it over after my coffee.

[MumInOhio]

I didn't know it was locked.
I can post because I'm a MOD
I will bring it over after my coffee.

LOL...Thanks...Kept looking for your post on this page! I was

[Blonde]

iirc Beth and Natalee went shopping before her trip. I think it (the blouse) was purchased then, in Alabama.

See, that is the problem, and I don't want to get into trouble talking about it, never mind, I'm not going to bring it up again.  I will just let it go.

Always, IIRC, the FBI asked Beth very early to get exact replicas
of the clothes that Natalee was wearing when last seen.
Megan Twitty, Jug's daughter, went to the store where Natalee had
purchased the top in Birmingham and bought a match.
Same for the denim skirt.

MY Mother and Grandmother were seamstress  in NYC and they have always told me to buy enough material in case you make a mistake. Because if  purchased at a later date the dye lot is always different.  Will not match up.

[Blonde]

Lisa,
Kyle posted here that human remains were found.
Whose do you think they were?
Where are they now?

I don't think so Magnolia.  I could be wrong but according to Kyle's words in the following post ...


oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
« Reply #363 on: March 20, 2008, 02:36:39 AM »

The samples were recovered by Aruban divers on the 7th of Jan.  These samples include a fabric found inside the trap which was sent for a comparative analysis to the FBI.  However, the samples were also reportedly DNA tested. I heard there were remains from a source, who likely referred to DNA as remains, as he said there was DNA found.  However, it's rather ambiguous to me, but the take home message from the FBI is simply: they're not commenting on the case and the fabric wasn't Natalee's blouse.  I'm unaware of any bone found.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2721.msg367044;topicseen#msg367044

Looks like bone to me /@400% .

[johan555]

I didn't know it was locked.
I can post because I'm a MOD
I will bring it over after my coffee.

 

[MumInOhio]

Anyone have the date of when Greta announced this new show on Gretawire...TIA

May have ben bought here by Lisa...

[Magnolia]

I don't think that Paulus and Joran would have had a telephone
conversation in English.  They would have spoken Dutch IMO

[wreck]

Mum from last thread:

wreck:
I thought the Devries/patrick secret video was Jan. '08, Greta's sit down w/ Joran in June '08 and the NEW Devries video in Thailand was June- July '08. 

mum:
Thanks wreck…Been trying to nail this down…I thought I read that the DeVries sting was completed only a few days before the show aired on November 9th.

Johan, Bastibro, EURobert or any of our other Dutch posters…do you have any more info on the timing of the DeVries show?

Great Quote…
Remember there are no coincidences!

I sure about the first 2 -- not sure of the Devries/Thailand recording -- but it was AFTER Greta's in June '08.

[wreck]

I don't think that Paulus and Joran would have had a telephone
conversation in English.  They would have spoken Dutch IMO

Yes, and I don't THINK Paulus is that stupid to speak an incriminating conversation over an open phone that could be wiretapped.

[Magnolia]

Lisa,
Kyle posted here that human remains were found.
Whose do you think they were?
Where are they now?

I don't think so Magnolia.  I could be wrong but according to Kyle's words in the following post ...


oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #744 3/19 -
« Reply #363 on: March 20, 2008, 02:36:39 AM »

The samples were recovered by Aruban divers on the 7th of Jan.  These samples include a fabric found inside the trap which was sent for a comparative analysis to the FBI.  However, the samples were also reportedly DNA tested. I heard there were remains from a source, who likely referred to DNA as remains, as he said there was DNA found.  However, it's rather ambiguous to me, but the take home message from the FBI is simply: they're not commenting on the case and the fabric wasn't Natalee's blouse.  I'm unaware of any bone found.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2721.msg367044;topicseen#msg367044

Looks like bone to me /@400% .

Blonde, there is a post by Kyle where he definately says that
human remains were found.  I just didn't feel like contesting the
point last night.  After a long period in sea water, I don't know what
would remain other than bones.