Natalee Case Discussion #735 2/24/08 -2/27/08

[klaasend]

Dihannah - maybe?  I wish we could get a full pap translation of that article.  Haven't seen anything about it at RU which I find odd and telling at the same time.

[Kat_Gram]

Always trying to throw someomne else under the bus... GVC, etc.
Joe T wouldn't be doing his job if he came on the American networks and said, Yes, My client has admitted his gulit to me, now prove it in a court of law.
Now that the big settlement from Aruba is not going to happen for the Sloots, wonder who is going to foot the bill for this ? Altruistic ? Joe doesn't strike me as the type who would work for nothing. Not many people do. Sure, you might do some " volunteeer" work or " pro bono " but then how do you support yourself ?
Joe T was hired to rehabilite Joran's image he said. Joran is not important enough to need this, Aruba is.   

[Dihannah1]

Hmmmm, your right, interesting that RU hasn't translated yet.  Nothing at BFN either yet?  Hopefully one of our Dutch friends get in here soon!

[klaasend]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

[klaasend]

Hmmmm, your right, interesting that RU hasn't translated yet.  Nothing at BFN either yet?  Hopefully one of our Dutch friends get in here soon!

Our Dutch friends can't help us unless they can read Pap. 

[Dihannah1]

I'm off to get some cleaning done.  Will be checking in and out.  Hopefully get a translations soon!

I just heard Hollaback Girl on the t.v. and I will never listen to that song the same again!

[Dihannah1]

Hmmmm, your right, interesting that RU hasn't translated yet.  Nothing at BFN either yet?  Hopefully one of our Dutch friends get in here soon!

Our Dutch friends can't help us unless they can read Pap. 

Oh yeah

[Buckeye]

When Peter R. DeVries first posted his English webpage, the contact was his producer, Peter Schouten.

I had sent a short question (and thank you for the taping).  I just now got a reply.

Me:
Is it against the law to publish the name of the judge that gives a ruling?  Can the ruling itself be published?  Are judges not held accountable for their decisions?

Peter  S.
Thank you very much for your kind words and praise. The answers are: No - Yes - No Greetings. Peter


Guess he doesn't think much of the judges, either. 

[Buckeye]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

 

[Lala'sMom]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

 

Thanks for the GVC thread.  Does this disturb anyone else?  Dirty Hand is still controlling things?  Wow!  No wonder the Dutch are no better at solving this.  My opinion of course.

[San]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

Klaas how long was Van der Straten Chief of Police in Bonaire.  TIA  I always wanted to do that.

[Nut44x4]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

 

Thanks for the GVC thread.  Does this disturb anyone else?  Dirty Hand is still controlling things?  Wow!  No wonder the Dutch are no better at solving this.  My opinion of course.

YES!

[San]

Van der Straten will now go back to the Netherlands and join is partner in crime Karin Janssen.  It was only a matter of time.

[Blonde]

Na Colony den e area di santana di cacho un boto bandona a ser encontra. Polis a yega na e sitio y a haja varios obheto manera paña y tambe jug di gasoline. E boto tabata mustra hopi misterioso y lo bay investiga pa mira si por saca afor di ken e boto of pa kiko e boto a ser usa y laga atras.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/3918/8/#jc_allComments

boat misterioso owing to wordo confisca come across
at colony in the area of cemetery of cacho one boat bandona owing to being encontra. police owing to arrive at the sitio y owing to haja several obheto as cloths y also jug of gasoline. the boat was show much misterioso y will bay investiga for see if can saca afor of that the boat or for what the boat owing to being using y let behind. come across


.........not sure what this is about.....

This is what I got

saturday nightfall the boat "persistence" cu is one boat americano cu have lunas buscando in the lamanan rond of aruba for her possible curpa of natalee holloway owing to ask asistencia of maritiem politie. apparently they will owing to haja one tip y owing to ask for niun boat not enter the area cu will bay busca. on the imagen can see the boat cu have equiponan super modern abordo is busca in the area before malmok. diadomingo morning they will sigi busca.

[Destiny]

Somewhere in the Shango thread there is a discussion about GVC and Joran together on the beach checking out tourist girls .  We often hear Freddy's name in combination, but it has also been speculated that GVC was part of this pimping group too.

Maybe Mum will remember what page it was...we have so many there now.  Until Beth's book came out I always felt the blue-eyed Dutch Marine story originated around GVC, he is much better looking than Joran, whether or not he was involved is still questionable. There was a reason for ALE to arrest him...whatever that was.

Mornin' Lala's,

It just makes it more apparent to me, that Natalee was picked out/chosen from the herd of MB Students days before the actual kidnapping...for what purpose...I don't know for shure...but I do think she was targeted way in advance...and surrounded by *pimps* at every opportunity they could keep her in their sights....What shits!!! Diabolical Evil Shits!!!

[klaasend]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

Klaas how long was Van der Straten Chief of Police in Bonaire.  TIA  I always wanted to do that.

2 years maybe?  I remember something about it being temporary.

[San]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

Klaas how long was Van der Straten Chief of Police in Bonaire.  TIA  I always wanted to do that.

2 years maybe?  I remember something about it being temporary.

Thanks Klaas.

So they forced him to temporarily retire because of his involvement.  Then he shows up in Bonaire temporarily so he can still keep his eye on what is happening and then his final destination with be the Netherlands where he will eventually be joined by Paulus as soon as Val finishes his senior year.  They will all be together like one big happy murdering family.

Maybe Karin Janssen and Anita will become best buds and she will invite her over for tea and they can discuss what a great job they both did in the cover-up.

Note to KJ watching your tea their might be something in it.

[klaasend]

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/2005_12_18_archive.html

12.22.2005
According to veteran policeman he will restructure the Bonaire force
Jan van der Straten will serve as High Commissioner for 6 to 12 months
He has an agreement with the Bonaire police union so he doesn’t understand the conflict
Bon Dia
12/22/2005

ORANJESTAD – As long as the country decision is not signed and in his hands, Jan vd Straten does not plan to start his new job in Bonaire as High Commissioner of the island of flamingos. Jan vd Straten said this to Bon Dia Aruba yesterday in an exclusive interview.

He confirmed the Bon Dia Aruba news that he will be the next chief of police of Bonaire and said that while he accepted this job, Aruba remains his home.

REQUEST FOR VD STRATEN
It was 2 to 3 years ago that the Antilles made the first attempt to seek vd Straten to work in Bonaire. “But my contract (in Aruba) was to end in August 15, 2005, so there wasn’t a possibility to go”, vd Straten said to this publication. He will procure to finalize this re-organization in Aruba first. After the invitation from the current Minister of Justice of the Anitlles, David Dick, he accepted the position. It was after two months passed that he spoke to his colleague and current Bonaire police chief Gerold Daantje.

WORKING TOGETHER
Here, they spoke about how they’re going to work together to see how vd Straten can work in Bonaire to prepare the police force in a new way and establish a relationship with Holland. While Daantje shared his opinion about the functioning in Bonaire, he expressed his preference to continue to study IT via a study task of the government of the US. As such, he came to an agreement with Minister Dick to leave Bonaire.

COUNTRY DECIDES
Once the country decision is made and in vd Straten’s hands, in what relates to his new function, he has to write a letter to Holland to postpone the payment of his pension for 6 to 12 months, which is the duration of his contract with Bonaire. The reason is that during this time, vd Straten will prepare the position for another person who has to assume the role as commissioner. The intention is to work on some project that will procure more security for the people of Bonaire, something that vd Straten considers an assured challenge.

UPSET IN THE FORCE
The fact that there is mention of an upset among members of the Bonaire police force with the arrival of vd Straten, is no very comprehensible for the former police commissioner of Aruba. This is because, according to the veteran policeman, he had a good understanding with the Bonaire police union. “It has always been my opinion that you have to care about these things that are very regulated for my colleagues. Then vd Straten will come”, the former commissioner continues to say. “That is an agreement with the union that they said to me 2 months ago. They assured me that they didn’t have a problem with anything”, vd Straten continued to say, reiterating that these issues have to be solved. “Van der Straten will not go work in a place where a colleague is already sitting as police chief”, vd Straten said.

STARTING DATE
The initial date mentioned for the police veteran to start his new position in Bonaire, according to Minister David Dick, is the 1st of January, 2006. But in practice, it seems that this will be a little later. “This is the main point. But everything has to be settled” vd Straten continued to say. He will not base it on a verbal agreement nor on a written one, but on a country decision.

“It is on a letter from the Minister that they will be in full agreement, but for me it has to be a country agreement to delay my pension”, vd Straten said. About the question that if he is asked to extend his permanency in Bonaire after a year, he categorically said no. “I am willing to work between 6 and 12 months in Bonaire. However, do not forget that I am retired. And my heart is in Aruba. I like working in Bonaire, but until now I live very well in Aruba” vd Straten finally said.

[martini]

Dutch Destroyer in the port of Aruba~

http://news.webshots.com/photo/2894474120063228069keyrsX?vhost=news

[Tamikosmom]

Bonaire still without corps leader  

KRALENDIJK – Since Jan van Straten left late January, Bonaire is still without a chief of police.  His contract ran out per February 1.  Justice-minister David Dick (PAR) regrets the fact that the Netherlands didn’t cooperate and let Van der Straten stay a little longer until a new chief of police was appointed. 

Van der Straten works for the Dutch police and they decided that he had to go back.  The council of ministers would decide on a new chief of police this month in anticipation of the application committee.  The corps of police is currently led by chief inspector Oscar Obispo.  Minister Dick confirmed this morning that no decision was made yet on the chief of police.  He said two weeks ago:  “We will make sure that Bonaire gets a good chief of police.”

http://amigoe.com/english/

 

Dutch police!!!!  I realized that Karin Janssen (prosecutor) was appointed by the Netherlands but ... I was under the impression that the Aruban Law Enforment was independent of the Netherlands.

Almost three years since Natalee Holloway went missing and ... I am still learning.

Janet

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February 22, 2008 - Bonaire still without corps leader