Lively Case Discussion #483 6/29/2006

[Jacqueline]

No need for a rousing rendition of kumbaya here.

Third and Blah just playin

But, can you sing just the first line of it Jacque?  I'd love to hear you sing...

Mi mi mi.....

I knew a girl named niki, i guess you could say she was a sex...oops wrong song

In the immortal words of Borat (of Ali G fame)...

"I Like"!!  

Wait, that's the song about the girl who likes to read magazines in a hotel lobby, right?  

I love Ali G.

Ah yes , that is one in the same.

Call her up whenever you want to - - - -!

Only Prince !  What a wordsmith.

[Windsor]

but again, please explain to me the comment about Melanie/Melody (sorry about her name); what did she say? how did it come about?

[thirdstrike]

Only Prince !  What a wordsmith.

Man's a GENUIS!!  What else can be said???

[mrs. red]

If the guys are not "close" friends, why in the world would Joran even HAVE Deepak's contact info? Joran obviously had communicated w/Deepak before. They were NOT just 2 ships passing in the night.

They had to have had some kind of agenda that night... at least along the lines of the Stefy-Mill routine, if not more involved than that.

Yes there are inconsistancies about that too.... and let's face it... there seems to be shall we say a little racism among the Dutch on the island... (I say this because they tried to pin this on MJ and Abraham) how would these two have crossed paths??

[mrs. red]

HI EVERYONE -- klaas -- look at my new nickname!!  I'm not GretaRocks anymore!!

Hey everyone!!  It's Windor - formerly Gretarocks!!  

wow, that taught me a lesson; things can quickly change

In a NY minute... good to see you GR/W... can I call you that

[Jacqueline]

Only Prince !  What a wordsmith.

Man's a GENUIS!!  What else can be said???

Amen.

[blah]

mrs. red, guys WOULDN'T do that.

ESPECIALLY not guys who don't even care or worry about letting their parents know their whereabouts... or even have no problem sneaking out after midnight.

The ONLY way Joran does that is if Deepak needs that info as part of some pre-arranged agenda. Joran couldn't care less where Deepak was, nor Deepak care less where Joran was- there is not a shred of loyalty or humanity between two guys like that in the least.

This is the way i see it too.

and that is why the stupid littlest pieces bother me...  and if you take the small little utterances, we did this 20x... you know that all 3 are involved... and I think SCroes, Freddy, GW... all have some involvement...

yeah i'm the same way with the stupid little pieces.  

I was reading Jorans interviews earlier tonight (the chris coumo one and and some other one) and man, is it full of these little things.  I mean every response to every question was just a blatent lie.

I had to quit reading because it was just getting me too wound up.

[Windsor]

HI EVERYONE -- klaas -- look at my new nickname!!  I'm not GretaRocks anymore!!

Hey everyone!!  It's Windor - formerly Gretarocks!!  

wow, that taught me a lesson; things can quickly change

In a NY minute... good to see you GR/W... can I call you that

yep, I guess that can be our lil secret; haha

[klaasend]

klaasend, BTW, is there any word on when we can get our avatars back? They make it much easier to find each other's posts.

That is a question for Tom, sorry I have no idea.

[mrs. red]

klaasend, BTW, is there any word on when we can get our avatars back? They make it much easier to find each other's posts.

Not Klaasend, but I can tell you that they are working on it... A lot... and I miss our avatars too

[Jacqueline]

klaasend, BTW, is there any word on when we can get our avatars back? They make it much easier to find each other's posts.

Not Klaasend, but I can tell you that they are working on it... A lot... and I miss our avatars too

If when they come back, I make my avatar a little red x, will you know it's me?

[sb]

yeah i'm the same way with the stupid little pieces.  

I was reading Jorans interviews earlier tonight (the chris coumo one and and some other one) and man, is it full of these little things.  I mean every response to every question was just a blatant lie.

I had to quit reading because it was just getting me too wound up.

People do that when they are just making it up as they go.

And when they are having to cover one set of lies with a new set.

[klaasend]

klaasend, BTW, is there any word on when we can get our avatars back? They make it much easier to find each other's posts.

Not Klaasend, but I can tell you that they are working on it... A lot... and I miss our avatars too

There..is this better??    

[mrs. red]

klaasend, BTW, is there any word on when we can get our avatars back? They make it much easier to find each other's posts.

Not Klaasend, but I can tell you that they are working on it... A lot... and I miss our avatars too

If when they come back, I make my avatar a little red x, will you know it's me?

I can always find my sistah silly!  LOL...

now y'all have that song playing in my head...

[Shizaru]

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Well, Deepak was upset about the gardener witness because he had the fit and threw the dominoes all over the room.  I don't think he would be upset if he was not seen.


And that just blows any time line I have ever had right out of the water, too.  

Deepak's behavior is very suspicious, but I still think the gardener's story is probably bogus.  Not to sound too CSI, but people lie, evidence doesn't.  And it's very hard to reconcile Deepak being at the pond at 2:30 with the computer and phone record evidence.  Not only is Deepak logging on at 2:00, but at 3:15 you have Joran sending him casual "I'm home" and "What's up" TMs, indicating that at that point Deepak did not know anything was wrong.  The only realistic way I see for the gardener's story to be true is if it was actually Satish in the car not Deepak.  But that doesn't seem likely to me, why would Deepak go home and let Joran and Satish have all the fun with Natalee. If Deepak was home at 2:00 than I think Satish probably was too.  

Based on electronic records and polis car tape I have come down to two scenarios:

1) 2K are innocent, Joran alone raped and murdered Natalee after 2K left him alone with her on beach  

2) Joran raped Natalee on beach, then after learning from Joran that he'd left her there, 2K came back and raped, murdered, and disposed of her without Joran's knowledge

Ok that part has always struck me as odd... guys don't do that kind of thing... send TM's they are home... I think he was saying she's gone... or something to that effect and in words that could not be held against him... JMO

Satish could have been the one at home at the Kalpoes.

Theoretically yes.  But not realistically.  It's not plausable that Satish would be online talking to Deepak's friends pretending to be Deepak, and then on top of that, after going thru so much trouble to set up a computer alibi for himself, Deepak contradicts his own alibi in his first statement. when he tells polis he didn't get home and log on until 2:40.

[Jacqueline]

klaasend, BTW, is there any word on when we can get our avatars back? They make it much easier to find each other's posts.

Not Klaasend, but I can tell you that they are working on it... A lot... and I miss our avatars too

If when they come back, I make my avatar a little red x, will you know it's me?

I can always find my sistah silly!  LOL...

now y'all have that song playing in my head...

Catchy little diddy!

[mrs. red]

yeah i'm the same way with the stupid little pieces.  

I was reading Jorans interviews earlier tonight (the chris coumo one and and some other one) and man, is it full of these little things.  I mean every response to every question was just a blatant lie.

I had to quit reading because it was just getting me too wound up.

People do that when they are just making it up as they go.

And when they are having to cover one set of lies with a new set.

I still say that if you take all the interviews... and put them together and pick out those little slips... i.e. we drove by my house, I called deepak and he said no... and then the next interview... sharks, shoes, etc... we could get to some truths that are told unintentionally...

[blah]

yeah i'm the same way with the stupid little pieces.  

I was reading Jorans interviews earlier tonight (the chris coumo one and and some other one) and man, is it full of these little things.  I mean every response to every question was just a blatant lie.

I had to quit reading because it was just getting me too wound up.

People do that when they are just making it up as they go.

And when they are having to cover one set of lies with a new set.

yeah, and it was just killing me that the interviewers were treating him with kid gloves.  So many opportunities to nail his sorry ass and they just them slip by.

[sb]

Heading out for a while. See y'all later tonight.

[Windsor]

I still say that if you take all the interviews... and put them together and pick out those little slips... i.e. we drove by my house, I called deepak and he said no... and then the next interview... sharks, shoes, etc... we could get to some truths that are told unintentionally...

I totally agree with you, Mrs Red; and the more Joran talked/lied, the more it says that he was confronted with certain evidence, such as stopping by his house (because he found out someone saw them on the road, ArubaGirl's friend or family member)

but if that's true, then why did he say they were at the Marriott beach area, or the fishermen's hut area -- was that when they broke into it?