Monkey Musing Daily Open Discussion #2 8/17 - 8/24/2007

[Lala'sMom]

Klass.. I need to know where that is.. I have vacation coming up soon  

Lala's he was... I think

i was in bed.  lol  got back up and realy need to get back to bed. My sleep is so messed up   

I need new shoes.. tons of new shoes.. sandals.. boots.. tenny shoes...  Mres Red.. when you get that location.. ket me know~!!!  TY   

How can you buy shoes online and get them to fit?  I have try on lots of different kinds just to make sure they aren't pinching my toes or rubbing my heels.  You must have perfect feet.

[klaasend]

Is Lala's still here or has swung over to the NH thread?

I remember some talk about Joran (who does not drive or own a car, or do anything wrong) picking up his father at the airport .  Paulus was returning from Curacao???

I'm searching now.  I do rmember early in the case, like the 1st or 2nd week talk about Joran picking up his dad at the airport on Sunday afternoon I think around 3pm.

And I think I read it at RWV the first or 2nd week of June 2005.  Searching now.

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks Klaas. I trying to determine if Colombo's theory could be correct.  I can't talk Shango in the Shango thread because no one is ever in there so I came out here to find someone.  Colombo is alluding to the fact that Paulus could be the 5th suspect...so if that is the case...then he would have to have been on Aruba the entire time that Natalee was and surely someone would have recognized him that was in her group. I thought he was gone until that poker tournament. But what do I know.  Also, if he was the 5th suspect then he went home to a party at his house at 9:30 at night.  And everyone was there at some point...does any understand what I am trying to say?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Klass.. I need to know where that is.. I have vacation coming up soon  

Lala's he was... I think

i was in bed.  lol  got back up and realy need to get back to bed. My sleep is so messed up   

I need new shoes.. tons of new shoes.. sandals.. boots.. tenny shoes...  Mres Red.. when you get that location.. ket me know~!!!  TY   

How can you buy shoes online and get them to fit?  I have try on lots of different kinds just to make sure they aren't pinching my toes or rubbing my heels.  You must have perfect feet.

 Lalas I have never purchased shoes online.. I have several shoes/boots and sandals here.  All different sizes  Range anywhre from a 9  ,, 9 1/2,, 10  to an 11.  I have to try mine on.. and I so hate to go shoping 
 I need to get back to bed.. MY sleep is so messed up since I was off of work 
  Goodnight and HUGS to CP and Nemo..

[Tibrogargan]

Thanks Klaas...

******* I replied

Tib - I think as wonderfully as the Internet connects the good it also connects the bad...also, look at how things are protrayed by the media too I think kids think they should be "sexy" at five years old.... with no understanding of what that means...

Mrs Red - I agree.  Television is also to blame or at least the censors and programmers.  We have shows here in children's time slots that have some very adult story lines, and not a lot left to the imagination.
You have children not much older than babies wearing bras and talking about how sexy they have to be - one of my nieces aged 10 told me she and her "boyfriend" are more than friends.  Geez - what could that mean?  I did have a quiet chat to her mother  who vowed to get to the bottom of it.  Now the girl does not want to talk to me.  Tough.

[mrs. red]

I buy from shoes.com or zappos.com all the time... they take return shipping for free! 

[Tibrogargan]

Is Lala's still here or has swung over to the NH thread?

I remember some talk about Joran (who does not drive or own a car, or do anything wrong) picking up his father at the airport .  Paulus was returning from Curacao???

I'm searching now.  I do rmember early in the case, like the 1st or 2nd week talk about Joran picking up his dad at the airport on Sunday afternoon I think around 3pm.

Klaas I am sure that would be where I read it first also.
And I know that I BELIEVED what I was reading in those early days.  Silly me

And I think I read it at RWV the first or 2nd week of June 2005.  Searching now.

[klaasend]

Thanks Klaas. I trying to determine if Colombo's theory could be correct.  I can't talk Shango in the Shango thread because no one is ever in there so I came out here to find someone.  Colombo is alluding to the fact that Paulus could be the 5th suspect...so if that is the case...then he would have to have been on Aruba the entire time that Natalee was and surely someone would have recognized him that was in her group. I thought he was gone until that poker tournament. But what do I know.  Also, if he was the 5th suspect then he went home to a party at his house at 9:30 at night.  And everyone was there at some point...does any understand what I am trying to say?

Lala's - I have a real hard time believe that PVDS was the "boyfriend" from earlier in the week.  Lorenzo is a bit of a stretch as well.  It just doesn't make any sense.  But if I had to choose between PVDS and Lorenzo, I'd choose Lorenzo.

[klaasend]

I buy from shoes.com or zappos.com all the time... they take return shipping for free! 

I love zappos!

[Anna]

Klaas,

Do you know if there has been the press conference on the miners?

[tcumom]

Thanks Klaas...

******* I replied

Tib - I think as wonderfully as the Internet connects the good it also connects the bad...also, look at how things are protrayed by the media too I think kids think they should be "sexy" at five years old.... with no understanding of what that means...

Mrs Red - I agree.  Television is also to blame or at least the censors and programmers.  We have shows here in children's time slots that have some very adult story lines, and not a lot left to the imagination.
You have children not much older than babies wearing bras and talking about how sexy they have to be - one of my nieces aged 10 told me she and her "boyfriend" are more than friends.  Geez - what could that mean?  I did have a quiet chat to her mother  who vowed to get to the bottom of it.  Now the girl does not want to talk to me.  Tough.

Tib ~ Good for you that you told your niece's mom . . . you cannot believe what these kids do/talk about ...... the majority of my students are 7th and 8th graders....I usually have a couple of classes of 6th graders . . . .the 6th graders talk about coed slumber parties ~ it is disgusting.  And, yes, it is true....not just talk.   

[klaasend]

Lala's - I don't want to start getting too much into the NH case in this thread.  Check out Companzi's post about his question if Joran picked up his dad and Valentijn at the airport at 5pm:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1763.msg239866#msg239866

According to Shizaru's timeline which much is based upon Joran's statments, PVDS was at the casino at 4pm on Sunday.

http://www.freewebs.com/hollowaycase/timeline.htm

[Tibrogargan]

Thanks Klaas. I trying to determine if Colombo's theory could be correct.  I can't talk Shango in the Shango thread because no one is ever in there so I came out here to find someone.  Colombo is alluding to the fact that Paulus could be the 5th suspect...so if that is the case...then he would have to have been on Aruba the entire time that Natalee was and surely someone would have recognized him that was in her group. I thought he was gone until that poker tournament. But what do I know.  Also, if he was the 5th suspect then he went home to a party at his house at 9:30 at night.  And everyone was there at some point...does any understand what I am trying to say?

See if I can do any better with this quote after messing up the previous one. 

I know what you are thinking about here Lalas - the MB kids would have mentioned if there was an older man hanging around their group.  I just always come back to Joran's comment to Anita that it would not have happened if she had been there.  She would have been more able to prevent Paulus getting up to any pranks than she obviously could with Joran.
And I get so mad at the statements associating Natalee with earlier in the week.  They make it sound like she had been there for days flaunting herself all over Aruba.

[mrs. red]

Yes it's true, coed slumber parties and the parents think.. oh they are being "enlightened" and the kids aren't doing anything...

and even Walmart sells thongs to little girls that say things like "eye candy" or "yummy" on them...

I used to never think I would believe the "hype" that things like that mattered, but now I see that they absolutely do!

If I miss a post I apologize, I am reading at Sephora trying to find a mascara that won't give me Alice Cooper eyes by 10 am ...

[Lala'sMom]

I know Klaas, but I am willing to search it out and see if it holds true.  I too find the thought of Paulus as a boyfriend...well nevermind...but if that seems to fit..I want to make it fit or go to something else.  I have read all the stuff where the posters were saying it was Lorenzo or it was Croes that was the 5th.  But still here we are wondering who it really was.  Well, if Simian was ALE, then he/she would appear to be saying it was Paulus and not those we think.  Then again, the 5th person was mentioned early on if we think it's Lorenzo or Steve Croes.  I know I am rambling and need to let it go.  I just want to get some answers.

[Anna]

Lorenzo was never a suspect.  Surely if Simian was a member of ALE he would know the difference in a witness and a suspect.
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[Lala'sMom]

I thought we could talk Shango in here.  No one ever goes into the other thread.  I am getting so tired of hopping back and forth and trying to get it in the right place. I ask a question in the Shango thread and no one answers me for hours...what good is that?  I am discouraged now, I give up. Hugs to Nemo. o

[Anna]

All I can find on the miners is that there are no sounds or signs of life from the fourth drilling.

Anyone have anything more than this?

[Lala'sMom]

Lorenzo was never a suspect.  Surely if Simian was a member of ALE he would know the difference in a witness and a suspect.
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Hi Anna, I think we are in the wrong thread for this discussion...some days I don't know where to be.  Do you think Paulus was the boyfriend?

[Anna]

No, I don't think Paulus was the boyfriend but he never went to The Netherlands at all and was home supposedly in charge of the kids while Anita went to the birthday celebration.