Lively Case Discussion #618 5/11 - 5/12/2007

[robots]

Jeepers Creepers

Holy Moses



the Dutch are going to get them all


i can sense it

JORAN is a creeeeeeeeeeep


 

[Anna]

where did you come from? Hello and good evening  

Good evening, Ldstlou,

I am often lurking about, multi-tasking, waiting for ANYTHING new, etc.

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[ldstlou]

Melody claims Joran called Freddie after school on Monday May 30 from the Racquet Club.

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so if someone is talking now...it very well could be Freddy. Amazing that he is the only one who seems to have told the truth. who would have thunk it? Have we ever seen pic of Freddy and Joran together after Natalee disappeared? Maybe Joran went too far for Freddy

[yapperz1]

Hiya Monkeys

Just got my DSL back up after the storms. At least we got some rain.

I do remember something about blood being found in a Sloot car but when tested it wasn't human? Don't hold me to this I am going from memory & it could have been told by the infanous Fluffer of Aruba  

[ldstlou]

where did you come from? Hello and good evening  

Good evening, Ldstlou,

I am often lurking about, multi-tasking, waiting for ANYTHING new, etc.

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you picked up on that so fast...you must have radar!! lol I thought everyone had gone out for the night or to bed...except me!! lol

[ldstlou]

Good eye Klaas!!! No wonder the Dutch were laughing while reading joran's book...it is going to be his undoing!

[Observer]

Melody claims Joran called Freddie after school on Monday May 30 from the Racquet Club.

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so if someone is talking now...it very well could be Freddy. Amazing that he is the only one who seems to have told the truth. who would have thunk it? Have we ever seen pic of Freddy and Joran together after Natalee disappeared? Maybe Joran went too far for Freddy

Yup..Could very well be the first truth we have heard in quite some time.

[Elaine]

Jeepers Creepers

Holy Moses



the Dutch are going to get them all


i can sense it

JORAN is a creeeeeeeeeeep


 

I hope they get em all!

[ldstlou]

Jeepers Creepers

Holy Moses



the Dutch are going to get them all


i can sense it

JORAN is a creeeeeeeeeeep


 

I hope they get em all!

I agree!!!

[Tibrogargan]

WoW!

Melody also claims Joran told Freddie on Monday about Natalee being missing and asked Freddie what he  should do.

So of course, Melody and Freddie are not lying about Joran saying all that on May 30 and only Joran is telling the truth?

That boy is something else!

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He is a walking lie factory.

[Anna]

Joran really has his nerve burning his friends in that book of his.  He is calling Freddie a liar it would appear.  That's gall!

Better be careful, Joran.  You're going to pizz off the wrong one doing that.
 

[lnichols]

Hey.... How is everyone this evening... Don't have much time, but wanted to catch up on my reading and say hello.... So... HELLO!!!

[yapperz1]

Tibro.. The goon child wouldn't recognize the truth if it bit him in the azz (along with 75% of the rest of the population on that rock)

[Red]

Posted by Jon (Shizaru) at Scrux:

Freddy's PV is in Joran's book, don't have a translation yet but this is what I am told it contains:

Freddy gave his statement on June 12. He told polis that Joran told him the HI lie on May 30. Then at the Raquet Club on May 31, Joran told him that the HI story was a lie, the truth was J2K all went to the beach with Natalee, where Natalee fell down numerous times as they walked on the beach, and at some point Natalee passsed out. When they couldn't wake her up, the three of them took off together, leaving Natalee alone on the beach.

After telling this to polis, Freddy then told it to Joran's parents, who confronted Joran with it, and Joran agreed Freddy was telling the truth (I'm not sure if that means about every detail, or just about them having taken Natalee to the beach).

Joran also says in his book he did not tell Freddy the HI lie on May 30, he did not know Natalee was missing until the morning of May 31. And he denies telling Freddy about Natalee repeatedly falling down and not being able to wake her up, or about the three leaving her alone on the beach.

Remember this exchange in the police car with the 3 suspects?

J says to D: What did you say that Freddy has to be detained?
D says to J: That Freddy has to say the truth.
J says to D: You know very well that Freddy told the truth.
S says to J: You’ll see, you’ll see.
D says to J: From the beginning, you could have avoided the matter of your dad.
D says to J: You know.
J says to D: What, where, how?
D says to J: That he wouldn’t have been detained.
J says to D: Hoe, hoeooooooo.
J says to D: You declared shit against him.
J says to D: My friend, the only thing my father wanted to do was to help you.
J says to D: My father only wanted to help you. My father even arranged a lawyer for you.

[Observer]

Good eye Klaas!!! No wonder the Dutch were laughing while reading joran's book...it is going to be his undoing!

I think the book is the 2nd to last chapter in this sad story. He sealed his fate with that book.IMO Those dutch must be trying to break through that corruption as we speak. Rudy Croes retiring may be a good sign.(I think thats what they are saying in papi)

[ldstlou]

Joran really has his nerve burning his friends in that book of his.  He is calling Freddie a liar it would appear.  That's gall!

Better be careful, Joran.  You're going to pizz off the wrong one doing that.
 

oh yea..and he can't wait to go home to Aruba...yea..GO AHEAD!!! won't last to long there I suspect!!

[Tibrogargan]

yapperz - loved your story of the cat and the chapstick.

[sb]

It doesn't matter if Freddy is telling the absolute 100% gospel truth about WHAT JORAN TOLD HIM. It's all fruit from the poison tree and it STILL constitutes a lie because the facts come from the liar himself.

I have no doubt that Joran told Freddy lots of things but that none of what he told Freddy was accurate.

[ldstlou]

Good eye Klaas!!! No wonder the Dutch were laughing while reading joran's book...it is going to be his undoing!

I think the book is the 2nd to last chapter in this sad story. He sealed his fate with that book.IMO Those dutch must be trying to break through that corruption as we speak. Rudy Croes retiring may be a good sign.(I think thats what they are saying in papi)

oh...there is no way any adult professional who has no stake in the case like the Dutch there investigating would not want to drag the little pompous a-- to jail!! I am SURE they want to take him down...especially after reading the case file for almost a year and then reading the book!! They HAVE to feel the way we do.

[Elaine]

Hey.... How is everyone this evening... Don't have much time, but wanted to catch up on my reading and say hello.... So... HELLO!!!

Hi Lnichols good to see ya here!