JSM'S BEGGING FOR BANNING THREAD #4

[trimmonthelake]

I'm so mad about the hearing.......No Rose and Trimm how about some Martini's?

      The judge is going to throw this lawsuit out, you can feel that coming. 

And the evening only gets worse.... 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/pelosi-stands-firm-public-option-democrats-ground/
Pelosi Not Budging on 'Public Option,' Even as Top Democrats Give Ground
On all sides of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, September 09, 2009
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is increasingly standing alone among top congressional Democrats in her unwavering insistence on a government-run health insurance plan.

On all sides of her, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

But even as fellow Democrats float alternatives, Pelosi is not budging.
"I believe that a public option will be essential to our passing a bill in the House of Representatives," the California Democrat said Tuesday. "Right now, we will have a public option in our bill."
<snipped>

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/poll-public-disapproval-obamacare-jumps-percent/
Poll: Public Disapproval of 'Obamacare' Jumps to 52 Percent
An Associated Press-GfK poll says that public disapproval of President Obama's handling of health care has jumped to 52 percent.

AP

Wednesday, September 09, 2009

[Missiontoconvict]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/pelosi-stands-firm-public-option-democrats-ground/
Pelosi Not Budging on 'Public Option,' Even as Top Democrats Give Ground
On all sides of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, September 09, 2009
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is increasingly standing alone among top congressional Democrats in her unwavering insistence on a government-run health insurance plan.

On all sides of her, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

But even as fellow Democrats float alternatives, Pelosi is not budging.
"I believe that a public option will be essential to our passing a bill in the House of Representatives," the California Democrat said Tuesday. "Right now, we will have a public option in our bill."
<snipped>

If Nancy Pelosi had 2 brain cells they would fight - she is a complete and utter embarrasment.   

[joesamas mama]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/pelosi-stands-firm-public-option-democrats-ground/
Pelosi Not Budging on 'Public Option,' Even as Top Democrats Give Ground
On all sides of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, September 09, 2009
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is increasingly standing alone among top congressional Democrats in her unwavering insistence on a government-run health insurance plan.

On all sides of her, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

But even as fellow Democrats float alternatives, Pelosi is not budging.
"I believe that a public option will be essential to our passing a bill in the House of Representatives," the California Democrat said Tuesday. "Right now, we will have a public option in our bill."
<snipped>

Scr*w Pelosi and Obama.  Going home monkeys, will see you in a bit. Worked kicked my butt today. JSM

[Missiontoconvict]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/pelosi-stands-firm-public-option-democrats-ground/
Pelosi Not Budging on 'Public Option,' Even as Top Democrats Give Ground
On all sides of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

FOXNews.com

Wednesday, September 09, 2009
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is increasingly standing alone among top congressional Democrats in her unwavering insistence on a government-run health insurance plan.

On all sides of her, other Democratic leaders -- including President Obama -- are casting the so-called "public option" as important but not essential, as conservatives assail it and moderate Democrats steadily back away from it.

But even as fellow Democrats float alternatives, Pelosi is not budging.
"I believe that a public option will be essential to our passing a bill in the House of Representatives," the California Democrat said Tuesday. "Right now, we will have a public option in our bill."
<snipped>

Scr*w Pelosi and Obama.  Going home monkeys, will see you in a bit. Worked kicked my butt today. JSM

Drive Safe JSM 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/obama-press-public-option-health-care-address-despite-dimming-hopes-senate/
Obama Urges Congress to Stop 'Bickering' and Pass Health Care Reform
Wednesday, September 09, 2009

President Obama plans to argue in a high-stakes address to Congress Wednesday that the country's health care system is at a "breaking point," as he urges lawmakers to stop "bickering" and pass comprehensive reform.

"The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery before a joint session of Congress. "Now is the time to deliver on health care."

Obama is stressing his resolve to bring lawmakers together and clear away hurdles to passing an overhaul package.

"I am not the first president to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last," Obama said in prepared remarks.

[joesamas mama]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/obama-press-public-option-health-care-address-despite-dimming-hopes-senate/
Obama Urges Congress to Stop 'Bickering' and Pass Health Care Reform
Wednesday, September 09, 2009

President Obama plans to argue in a high-stakes address to Congress Wednesday that the country's health care system is at a "breaking point," as he urges lawmakers to stop "bickering" and pass comprehensive reform.

"The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery before a joint session of Congress. "Now is the time to deliver on health care."

Obama is stressing his resolve to bring lawmakers together and clear away hurdles to passing an overhaul package.

"I am not the first president to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last," Obama said in prepared remarks.

So Trimm, he tells congress to stop bickering? Does he not realize these people are elected officials that "should" vote for their constituents? Is he that assinine?

And he is not the first President to take up this cause, but he is determined to be the last? Sounds like a dictator if you ask me. I thought Clinton was bad with his Hillarycare, but Obamacare is scaring the carp out of me. 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/obama-press-public-option-health-care-address-despite-dimming-hopes-senate/
Obama Urges Congress to Stop 'Bickering' and Pass Health Care Reform
Wednesday, September 09, 2009

President Obama plans to argue in a high-stakes address to Congress Wednesday that the country's health care system is at a "breaking point," as he urges lawmakers to stop "bickering" and pass comprehensive reform.

"The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery before a joint session of Congress. "Now is the time to deliver on health care."

Obama is stressing his resolve to bring lawmakers together and clear away hurdles to passing an overhaul package.

"I am not the first president to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last," Obama said in prepared remarks.

So Trimm, he tells congress to stop bickering? Does he not realize these people are elected officials that "should" vote for their constituents? Is he that assinine?

And he is not the first President to take up this cause, but he is determined to be the last? Sounds like a dictator if you ask me. I thought Clinton was bad with his Hillarycare, but Obamacare is scaring the carp out of me. 

They are so far ahead of us it is unbelievable.They know what they are going to do.
It has been nothing but chaos for months now.Behind the scenes they have been steadily moving forward.All he!! is about to break loose.

[joesamas mama]

  I hope this is true 

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm

WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
Wed Sep 09 2009 17:03:37 ET

At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, a Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option.

Read it all at the link above. There are some quotes from some of the dems on why they may not vote for it at the bottom of the link.

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm so mixed up with all this health care talk  I think it is deliberate that people have a hard time understanding.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/acorn-turns-florida-workers-voter-fraud-charges/?test=latestnews
ACORN Turns in Florida Workers on Voter Fraud Charges
The FBI and state authorities were making arrests Wednesday of workers hired to register voters by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN.

Cristina Corbin

FOXNews.com
Wednesday, September 09, 2009
Arrest warrants have been issued in Miami for 11 people suspected of falsifying information on hundreds of voter registration cards -- including registering the name of the late actor Paul Newman -- the Florida state attorney told FOXNews.com.

<snipped>
They have no shame.   

[trimmonthelake]

I'm so mixed up with all this health care talk  I think it is deliberate that people have a hard time understanding.

Me too. 

[trimmonthelake]

I hope this is true 

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashwc.htm

WHIP COUNT: DEMS LACK THE VOTES
Wed Sep 09 2009 17:03:37 ET

At least 44 more moderate Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record in opposition to the current health care bill in the House, a Hill source claims. Likewise, at least 57 liberal Members of the Democrat Caucus have gone on the record saying they will vote against a health care bill without a strong public option.

Read it all at the link above. There are some quotes from some of the dems on why they may not vote for it at the bottom of the link.

 

[Fanny Mae]

I had to take a break for a while. After all that disgusting performance of the judge in.....nevermind. 

[Fanny Mae]

Does anyone but me see parallels between what is going on in Orlando and our Government? 

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/09/health-care-terms-phrases-defined-health-care-debate/
This may help understand somew of the terms you hear.   
Health Care 101: Terms and Phrases That Have Defined the Health Care Debate
Confused by all the health care jargon? FOXNews.com breaks down the terminology in advance of President Obama's primetime address on health care.

Co-op
A non-profit health cooperative, or "co-op," is a member-owned group that assembles a network of salaried medical providers and negotiates payment rates with them. Membership is voluntary; consumers decide whether a co-op's costs, coverage, provider networks and other features are superior to those of private plans. Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., a key member of the Senate Finance Committee, first proposed the idea of a co-op alternative to a public health insurance plan.

Public option
A public option, or "nationalized plan," is a government-run, government-funded health insurance option offered as an alternative to private insurance companies. Obama has said a public option will make health care more affordable, because people would pay premiums 10 to 20 percent less than they would in a private insurance plan.

Private insurance
Health coverage provided by companies like Blue Cross Blue Shield, GHI, and United Health care.

"Single payer"
A term used to describe a system that would collect all health care fees and pay out all health care costs. This type of financing system has been proposed to eliminate administrative waste, because it would force doctors and hospitals to bill one entity for services -- rather than several private insurance companies that have different billing procedures.
"Trigger"
Some Democrats, like Sen. Max Baucus, have proposed a so-called "trigger" in the health care reform legislation, which would keep a government plan on reserve in case private insurers don't meet certain benchmarks.

Medicare and Medicaid
Medicare is a government-backed program for seniors 65 years or older. Medicaid is a health option for low-income individuals and families.

"Socialized" medicine
Critics of Obama's health care reform, like Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, have called the idea of a public option "socialist" -- meaning the option would drive private insurers out of business and create a government-regulated system that provides health care for all. Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary defines "socialism" as "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."

"Rationing" care
Critics charge that a government-run health insurance system would lead to health care "rationing" -- meaning that care would be given according to need. Obama has countered this charge, saying the "public option" will provide greater access to health care.

Health insurance exchange
A phrase used to describe a "marketplace" for various health care options -- including a government plan -- that will increase competition.

Doughnut hole
A gap in coverage for seniors within the defined standard benefit under the Medicare Part D prescription drug program. The doughnut hole requires seniors to pay full cost for drug prescriptions after they reach a spending limit.

Electronic records
The Obama administration has called for all records to be computerized within the next five years as a way to modernize the health care system and lower costs.

[joesamas mama]

I'm so mixed up with all this health care talk  I think it is deliberate that people have a hard time understanding.

No Rose it is deliberate. These freaks haven't even READ the d*mn bill, they just want to push it through. Tonight O will say we (you and I) won't lose our insurance coverage, blah, blah blah. He will say what he wants us to hear and people to believe. His disapproval rating on healthcare I believe is at 52% right now. He is going down hill fast and I hope he slides even further. Not with just healthcare, the bailouts, etc, he has now changed the Rule of Engagement for our military in Afghanistan and it is getting our guys killed. Had they stayed as they were, many more would be alive today. That is why I hate that man. He is the "commander" in chief. A true Commander would give our guys a way to WIN a war. JMO JSM

Now I am walking Josef and taking the magical cough medicine. I have decided that I "may" quit smoking. If so, I will be the fattest figure skater you have ever seen in your life.  Maybe I can be on tv "ELEPHANTS ON ICE" 

[trimmonthelake]

Does anyone but me see parallels between what is going on in Orlando and our Government? 

I know.Hubby said he can't stand to watch the speech tonight.It's pizzing him off.All this is just craziness.

[trimmonthelake]

I'm so mixed up with all this health care talk  I think it is deliberate that people have a hard time understanding.

No Rose it is deliberate. These freaks haven't even READ the d*mn bill, they just want to push it through. Tonight O will say we (you and I) won't lose our insurance coverage, blah, blah blah. He will say what he wants us to hear and people to believe. His disapproval rating on healthcare I believe is at 52% right now. He is going down hill fast and I hope he slides even further. Not with just healthcare, the bailouts, etc, he has now changed the Rule of Engagement for our military in Afghanistan and it is getting our guys killed. Had they stayed as they were, many more would be alive today. That is why I hate that man. He is the "commander" in chief. A true Commander would give our guys a way to WIN a war. JMO JSM

Now I am walking Josef and taking the magical cough medicine. I have decided that I "may" quit smoking. If so, I will be the fattest figure skater you have ever seen in your life.  Maybe I can be on tv "ELEPHANTS ON ICE"