SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #2

[Rob]

Just remembered something - after Guido was "released" Frankengoon called him and said he was sorry he got dragged into this all. This was the only person Joran apologized to until recently when he called Daury (not sure if it is Fransisco or Rodriguez, I believe it is Rodriguez) and there must be a reason why he would do that.

Now did he call Guido Wever the gay tennis player? I would say YES!!! he did .. he called him just like he called Daury Rodriguez and allows himself a small measure of peace knowing that he "didn't drag someone else in"...I don't believe Joran REALLY cares if he hurts anyone, but he might have a motive for saying he was sorry to a few specific individuals. Possibly they have connection that could make Joran disappear.

Jorsn only calls and apologized to those that he has dragged through the mud whether intentionally or not.

[SS]

IIRC the graves that were disturbed in January of 2006 were Oduber and Weber graves.  I guess the families were intertwined. Could one of our Guido Wevers actually be a Guido Weber, and if so which one is the one that we want?

Would the Guido that ALE arrested not be the one we want?  He is the one the gave the statements and notified ALE of his leaving.  He was the one there the night in question working.  I don't think we are looking for any other Guido besides the 17 year old that we knew about originally.  If we are, then the media made a whopper of a mistake.  Was the other Guido even on Aruba at the time? 

This is really confusing and I'm starting to think that intentional errors were sent out to confuse everyone.  Supposedly both Guidos were in Aruba and supposedly both are now in the Netherlands.  The thing that finally forced me to realize that our Guido might not be the right Guido was when Rob let me know that he had been a 17 year old dropout.  I think you have to be 18 to gamble and 21 to be a croupier in Aruba.  You also have to go to a special school.  I found some stuff which said that Guido who was now a dental student had been the 24 year old croupier.  I am starting to wonder if the press made an error (or intentional) when this guy was initially arrested and the information has just continued to perpetuate itself.

SS - just to be clear, Guido Wever allegedly "left" Aruba before graduation and went to Holland. He left a Nissan behind and this seems to be a new or newer car. He may have had enough credits to graduate and I suspect he did, but not wanting to take part in a ceremony to commemorate your accomplishments certainly leads me to believe he was getting the heck outta Dodge as fast as possible.

I *might* not technically classify him as a dropout.

I agree, he's not the person described as the croupier. This is a person obviously older and more refined. And that's another reason to look at all info provided by the Diario. I'm not sure they are doing it on purpose, but there does seem to be a huge dis-information campaign and it's possible that the Diario even fell for some of it.

Jossy said he has / had a huge file on Joran since he was 8 or 10 years old. Now where is it? He said he would expose what the Diario knew. Still waiting!!!

And how could the Diario obtain info on a 10 year old? that seems a bit much and illegal in my opinion. But if he has it  - I'll look at it. LOL... I doubt he has it.

The age discrepancy is the biggest issue for me with the Guidos.
I have also thought that it could be very possible for 17 year Guido to now be in Holland attending dental school and being represented by Holland's #1 attorney, if he is receiving lots of hush money.

[Lala'sMom]

The Guido Wever that ALE questioned gave notice of his leaving Aruba on June 7, 2005 at 2:15 PM.  The next day he gave some kind of statement and that is the last until his arrest in 2006. The link here says he was 19 so I guess we can figure his age out by that.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/23/holloway/index.html

[Lala'sMom]

This link from FOX claims that  Guido left on June 1.   

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196363,00.html

[Pita]

Posted by Pita at same link but scroll to almost bottom:

ABC TODAY
 
Business address SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company  MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat  ARUBA
Date of incorporation  14 MAY 2002
     
Main branch: MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V. registered under number 28973
located at CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST
NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN;
Residing in  PARADERA 35, PARADERA, ARUBA
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967
Nationality  DUTCH
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective  14 MAY 2002
Authority  FULL
   
RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE;
Residing in  SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in  U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966
Nationality  AMERICAN
Position  PROXY A W/T "ASST. MANAGER"
Effective  27 JUNE 2007
Authority  FULL 

DELTA REAL ESTATE N.V. 
 
Business address WAYACA 352, ORANJESTAD OOST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  DELTA REAL ESTATE N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  24 NOVEMBER 1997 
     

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN; 
Residing in  PARADERA 35, PARADERA, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  22 JUNE 1999 
Authority  FULL 

[Lala'sMom]

One more link with Sprong speaking on Guido's behalf. 

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/22/ng.01.html

[Pita]

Posted by Pita at same link but scroll to almost bottom:

ABC TODAY
 
Business address SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY
Name of the company  MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V.
Statutory seat  ARUBA
Date of incorporation  14 MAY 2002
     
Main branch: MEDIAMAX ARUBA N.V. registered under number 28973
located at CAYA G.F. (BETICO) CROES 9, ORANJESTAD OOST
NOT IN POSSESION OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT LICENCE
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN;
Residing in  PARADERA 35, PARADERA, ARUBA
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967
Nationality  DUTCH
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR
Effective  14 MAY 2002
Authority  FULL
   
RENFRO, JULIA CHRISTINE;
Residing in  SALINA CERCA 39-H, NOORD, ARUBA
Born in  U.S.A., CALIFORNIE on 30 AUGUST 1966
Nationality  AMERICAN
Position  PROXY A W/T "ASST. MANAGER"
Effective  27 JUNE 2007
Authority  FULL 

DELTA REAL ESTATE N.V. 
 
Business address WAYACA 352, ORANJESTAD OOST 
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY 
Name of the company  DELTA REAL ESTATE N.V. 
Statutory seat  ARUBA 
Date of incorporation  24 NOVEMBER 1997 
     

DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD: 
 
BOSET, PATRICK JOHN; 
Residing in  PARADERA 35, PARADERA, ARUBA 
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, GOIRLE on 28 DECEMBER 1967 
Nationality  DUTCH 
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR 
Effective  22 JUNE 1999 
Authority  FULL 

Previously posted by Kermit....

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[Rob]

SS, Guido could be semi mentally impaired like Satish and a 24 year old 12th grader. LMAO!!!

Solved!!!!

[Lala'sMom]

From a website called Judicial.ink:

Wever was a tennis partner, and close friend/accomplice to Joran.  He was a croupier (dealer) at the Holiday Inn, who scouted girls for Joran. Their routine was for Joran to help girls win, thereby befriending them. Joran and Guido were into ecstasy, and were thought to engage in homosexual activities. The day after the murder, they played tennis, and were together till 2:00 in the morning.  Wever is a low paid hotel worker and an accomplice, who moves to Holland.

[Lala'sMom]

So why does Julia seem to be so friendly with this guy Boset?  Is she married to him...really?  Some connections...I don't think it is all about photos from her pretty little camera.

[texasmom]

The article about "Booshi Wever" and his son "Guido" is almost at the bottom of the page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%2520internationaal/archief%2520nieuwsbronnen%2520internationaal/2005/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen%2520internationaal.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522rick%2Bsmid%2522%2Bamsterdam%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ie%3DUTF-8     

Translated version:

Zoon minister gets fine for threat ORANJESTAD - the zoon of minister Candelario ` Booshi ' weaver (MEP) of public health and environment, Guido ` Inti ', has been released yesterday after a payment of a fine of 1750 florin. He zat since Saturday permanently because of threat of the family Thijzen. There for a long time a conflict between partisans of OLA, among which the number two on the list Danny of of the lime, and the family weaver, plays. This was partly sent in with letters in the morning newspapers battled out. Of of the lime and others Friday did declaration because of threat against the zoon of minister Wever. The young person was apprehended then by the police force and was interrogated, but could even afterwards go. When Saturday talk be of threat weaver junior have been taken up and held. Gisterochtend he was put after paying the fine on free feet. According to its lawyer Anthony Carlo do not want squabble the young person rather concerning the contents of the conflict. "he must here on Aruba a number of things regulate before he returns soon to cuba where he studies dentistry." According to the ministerszoon really talk would not be of threat: I think that the Public Prosecution Service wants make clear that it will act rapidly against threat in political campaign. The same fact in another context had taken place, then the probable barge had been punished. Moreover minister Wever has done declaration of of the lime, because of doing false declaration. (Amigoe)

[Kermit]

LALA - HERE IS SOME INFOR FOR YOU IN YOUR QUEST TO UNRAVEL THE CODE. Hope it helps, kermit


STEVE CROES FAMILY



Looks like Paulus from the back in the blue shirt and dark grey pants

THERE IS A MAX ARRENDS AND MAXITO ARRENDZ. MAXITO IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONE WHO GAVE THE ALIBI FOR LORENZO AND WAS QUESTIONED.
MAXITO ARRENZS RACES CARS



MAX ARRENDS AND HIS FAMILY. MAX GOES TO SCHOOL IN FLORIDA



KOEN, GIRL, MAX ARRENDS



MAXITO ARRENDZ RUNS A RED MUSTANG



Arelen Ellis-Schipper is on the board of the CMB bank.
Same bank Paulus went to the day after his son kidnapped Natalee he said to make a depoist.

The CMB bank is next door to Digicel.
I posted a pic of it on the forums a while back.



Ernesto (Freddy's brother)
Halley (the crooked cops son)
Guido Wever
Michael Dompig
are all models for the same agency.
I think that agency is a front for something illegal. I could only follow it so far and nothing seemed credible about it.


JULIA RENFRO'S HOME




VALENTIJIN'S FRIEND IS RIKKA WHO IS JORAN'S GIRL FRIEND THAT WAS 13/14 YRS OLD.
I have Joran and Rikka's pictures too.

AND
VAL IS FRIENDS WITH  SANDER

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/900/valandmikerg8.jpg

[Lala'sMom]

SS, Guido could be semi mentally impaired like Satish and a 24 year old 12th grader. LMAO!!!

Solved!!!!

Would they have an equivalent of the GED in Holland that allows juvenile drop outs to become brain surgeons...er...I mean dentists? 

[Lala'sMom]

Kermit!!!! Thanks you sweet little green foggy...I have missed you.

[CapsLockWizard]

From a website called Judicial.ink:

Wever was a tennis partner, and close friend/accomplice to Joran.  He was a croupier (dealer) at the Holiday Inn, who scouted girls for Joran. Their routine was for Joran to help girls win, thereby befriending them. Joran and Guido were into ecstasy, and were thought to engage in homosexual activities. The day after the murder, they played tennis, and were together till 2:00 in the morning.  Wever is a low paid hotel worker and an accomplice, who moves to Holland.

The reason he can not sing is that he has a string attached to Him via his father.

All have secrets about the each other and so if he sings on one, the one will sing one something else about him, and they are look in this game.

Let me give a summary, Sloot with a job to do, Sloot (joran) had 2 Hindus, Sloot (other son) had 2 Shivas(killers) but the bird flow  away and this left them the lets call it the (MIU) hanging. but with an open on going contract.

Now I Just which one is he most likely that was sloot that she met, ether Val. or the Larenzo

there where two swith one for the girls and one for the killer. 2 shivan was transported to to airport by a ALE

What time did the airplane that  beth came down with left. Who was return back to the states.

[Lala'sMom]

The article about "Booshi Wever" and his son "Guido" is almost at the bottom of the page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.korps-politie-suriname.com/nieuws/nieuwsbronnen%2520internationaal/archief%2520nieuwsbronnen%2520internationaal/2005/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen-internationaal/2005-09-nieuwsbronnen%2520internationaal.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522rick%2Bsmid%2522%2Bamsterdam%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ie%3DUTF-8     

Translated version:

Zoon minister gets fine for threat ORANJESTAD - the zoon of minister Candelario ` Booshi ' weaver (MEP) of public health and environment, Guido ` Inti ', has been released yesterday after a payment of a fine of 1750 florin. He zat since Saturday permanently because of threat of the family Thijzen. There for a long time a conflict between partisans of OLA, among which the number two on the list Danny of of the lime, and the family weaver, plays. This was partly sent in with letters in the morning newspapers battled out. Of of the lime and others Friday did declaration because of threat against the zoon of minister Wever. The young person was apprehended then by the police force and was interrogated, but could even afterwards go. When Saturday talk be of threat weaver junior have been taken up and held. Gisterochtend he was put after paying the fine on free feet. According to its lawyer Anthony Carlo do not want squabble the young person rather concerning the contents of the conflict. "he must here on Aruba a number of things regulate before he returns soon to cuba where he studies dentistry." According to the ministerszoon really talk would not be of threat: I think that the Public Prosecution Service wants make clear that it will act rapidly against threat in political campaign. The same fact in another context had taken place, then the probable barge had been punished. Moreover minister Wever has done declaration of of the lime, because of doing false declaration. (Amigoe)

As I understand this...his son is in Cuba studying dentistry...is that right?  LOL  More confusion.  No wonder we are all so tired in here...too much thinking going on!

[Lala'sMom]

Kermit
If you see this I have a question for you.  Do you remember where the Catiri 7-A address for Freddy came from? I think you said it was an apartment.  TIA

[Chata]

CAPS said:

The reason he can not sing is that he has a string attached to Him via his father.

All have secrets about the each other and so if he sings on one, the one will sing one something else about him, and they are look in this game.

Let me give a summary, Sloot with a job to do, Sloot (joran) had 2 Hindus, Sloot (other son) had 2 Shivas(killers) but the bird flow  away and this left them the lets call it the (MIU) hanging. but with an open on going contract.

Now I Just which one is he most likely that was sloot that she met, ether Val. or the Larenzo

there where two swith one for the girls and one for the killer. 2 shivan was transported to to airport by a ALE

What time did the airplane that  beth came down with left. Who was return back to the states.

[/quote]

CAPS,
It was a private plane.  Maybe someone remembers when it left and who returned.
I don't follow your logic here, though.  Are you leading us back to the MB folks???

CHATA

[CapsLockWizard]

CAPS said:

The reason he can not sing is that he has a string attached to Him via his father.

All have secrets about the each other and so if he sings on one, the one will sing one something else about him, and they are look in this game.

Let me give a summary, Sloot with a job to do, Sloot (joran) had 2 Hindus, Sloot (other son) had 2 Shivas(killers) but the bird flow  away and this left them the lets call it the (MIU) hanging. but with an open on going contract.

Now I Just which one is he most likely that was sloot that she met, ether Val. or the Larenzo

there where two swith one for the girls and one for the killer. 2 shivan was transported to to airport by a ALE

What time did the airplane that  beth came down with left. Who was return back to the states.

CAPS,
It was a private plane.  Maybe someone remembers when it left and who returned.
I don't follow your logic here, though.  Are you leading us back to the MB folks???

CHATA
[/quote]

When the deed was done, the 2 shivas got a lift to the airport from and ALE, now at the airport, they took a private aybe a learjet, to go back to where they come from.

What I am saying is it is apaid contract that could not be broken. but the incocent look akike walked in and so she was descovert.

The young sloot and the 2 hindus took the wrong girl to the Shivas. The shivas was with the other brother of Joran.

Now when the deed was done 2 two was drive to the airport to fly away from where they came.

Now let look it now form the otherside of the pond.

I am SHIVE X and Want to have bird form some reason that we do not know.

Now SHIVA X came to Aruba and contracted Sloots to help keeping on eye on the bird. but bird flow away,

Now SHIVA X did not know that Bird flow away.

Now either sloot was looking at the wrong bird from the getgo but it does not look like that,

so it must be the oter way around. They know the bird and when they saw that the girl was gone, they took it out on the girl that look like the bird.

Now all sing, but all finger are pointing to each other and it goes all the way into the procesucter office. to the Ministers. all are linked to this MP-CASINO. Favors for the Ritz, R. Croes for the Drugs. etc.

To protect them all, they have their own News media to make the readers dance.

to find the truth, we have to look at the weekest link and that is the prosecuter DH self.

all has been written down that mean the Police has done their work but DH controls them and RC.

[Lala'sMom]

CAPS said:

The reason he can not sing is that he has a string attached to Him via his father.

All have secrets about the each other and so if he sings on one, the one will sing one something else about him, and they are look in this game.

Let me give a summary, Sloot with a job to do, Sloot (joran) had 2 Hindus, Sloot (other son) had 2 Shivas(killers) but the bird flow  away and this left them the lets call it the (MIU) hanging. but with an open on going contract.

Now I Just which one is he most likely that was sloot that she met, ether Val. or the Larenzo

there where two swith one for the girls and one for the killer. 2 shivan was transported to to airport by a ALE

What time did the airplane that  beth came down with left. Who was return back to the states.

CAPS,
It was a private plane.  Maybe someone remembers when it left and who returned.
I don't follow your logic here, though.  Are you leading us back to the MB folks???

CHATA
[/quote]

It was jet furnished by the McWanes.