Sandra Cantu #3 4/15/09 -4/27/09

[Edward]

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Local news station CBS 13 is reporting that they have confirmed with officials that Sandra Cantu's murderer is being investigated for drugging and molesting another child. The Tracy police would give no other information. There are also reports that today another parent came forward and accused Melissa Huckaby of being involved in child porn.

Justice in the name of Sandra!  Her name will strike fear into these assh*le child abusers and molesters.

fyi
I like acurate info.. It keeps our research thread clean.. 
I cannot read where channel 13 makes that claim. Nothing in there news article says anything like this.
Be careful reading the wanna be news reporters in the world that start there own news casts on the Internet, just go direct to the source and read the article yourself.
jmho

[k9ohana]

JVM reports -KOVR in Sacramento

May have been involved in the production of porn.  Implication that MH was involved in a prior case of a 10yr old being drugged.

On my list of top 2:

Oh God Klass I am so on board. I feel it in my gut these two are involved some how even if indirectly.

[fatcatlurker]

http://fav.or.it/post/1332556

Local news station CBS 13 is reporting that they have confirmed with officials that Sandra Cantu's murderer is being investigated for drugging and molesting another child. The Tracy police would give no other information. There are also reports that today another parent came forward and accused Melissa Huckaby of being involved in child porn.

Justice in the name of Sandra!  Her name will strike fear into these assh*le child abusers and molesters.

fyi
I like acurate info.. It keeps our research thread clean.. 
I cannot read where channel 13 makes that claim. Nothing in there news article says anything like this.
Be careful reading the wanna be news reporters in the world that start there own news casts on the Internet, just go direct to the source and read the article yourself.
jmho

I know I followed the link and nothing of the kind there.  oops can't take it back

[N2WISHN]

http://fav.or.it/post/1332556

Local news station CBS 13 is reporting that they have confirmed with officials that Sandra Cantu's murderer is being investigated for drugging and molesting another child. The Tracy police would give no other information. There are also reports that today another parent came forward and accused Melissa Huckaby of being involved in child porn.

Justice in the name of Sandra!  Her name will strike fear into these assh*le child abusers and molesters.

fyi
I like acurate info.. It keeps our research thread clean.. 
I cannot read where channel 13 makes that claim. Nothing in there news article says anything like this.
Be careful reading the wanna be news reporters in the world that start there own news casts on the Internet, just go direct to the source and read the article yourself.
jmho

I know I followed the link and nothing of the kind there.  oops can't take it back

JVM and the HLN show before it both had a reporter from KOVR saying all this. I imagine the website will be updated with more info anytime soon..........

[Izzy58]

JVM reports -KOVR in Sacramento

May have been involved in the production of porn.  Implication that MH was involved in a prior case of a 10yr old being drugged.

On my list of top 2:

Oh God Klass I am so on board. I feel it in my gut these two are involved some how even if indirectly.

I'm betting on Sinclair on the porn thing.....Fred helping to dispose of the suitcase

[k9ohana]

JVM reports -KOVR in Sacramento

May have been involved in the production of porn.  Implication that MH was involved in a prior case of a 10yr old being drugged.

On my list of top 2:

Oh God Klass I am so on board. I feel it in my gut these two are involved some how even if indirectly.

I'm betting on Sinclair on the porn thing.....Fred helping to dispose of the suitcase

Fred is the one with virtually no income though and a very expensive house. I have always wondered where the money for the house came from.

[Maven]

I'm just saying times are changing.  And I hear you Deenie but more and more we see women committing these same crimes that are typically done by men.
Teenage girls ganging up and beating lone victims is not funny to me, mothers more and more harming and killing their children. 
As we as women evolve in our lives so do our crimes.  JMO

I hear you too. You know Why all of this Anger is coming out of these Young Girls - they are a product of their environment. What is that? They come from homes that are Broken, they come from homes that have no " unification". A broken home means no one is in charge. I am a Single Mom. This is not about Single Moms. These Homes - There is no Mentor. There is no Rules in place.  The Child has no Respect nor Fear of their Parent/Parents ... nor for anyone for that matter. All the BS ..of Be your child's friend.
Is just what it is .. BS.  If you do not set into place " Boundaries" and "rules" from the get go into your child's life .. there will consequences ... And we are seeing it now in the media, and on the news and .. its not changing much. All these Parents who believe every child is a winner that as long as your body is the room.  We don't care if you did not participate - you were breathing, you were there that was enough.  All this babble about Everyone's a Winner, No scores- in grades and nor sports. Group Effort - All are Equal.

Sandra's Mom was one that taught her daughter to be Helpful, to be loving, to be giving of herself. Sandra has been spoken about that she loved to bake, to be helpful to want to be with others ... She would have I am sure of it ..become a Teen that was a reflection of what she was taught. You would never fathom Sandra to become one of these girls who are now in the video's beating the crap out of another ..with the Mom's Jeering it on while it happened or after the fact. 
jmo

Bold part makes me  My daughter is Sandra's age, and I have taught her to help others, show compassion etc. She is very friendly and I have taught her about strangers, but how would I even warn her about her friends mom? I think MH lured Sandra to that church under the premise of helping to "decorate the church", my daughter would have gone, I know she would have..........

[jjayinthemorning]

I agree.
Leaving the disappearing suitcase in the driveway suggests that someone else was involved in moving it.
Melissa seems like the former abused wife who found another abuser to hook up with. Sinclair seems to fit that void. Melissa's behavior wasn't going to change since her divorce, she was and always be a victim and enabler.
Hints of porn suggests that more than one person was involved.

I liked the womans suggestion on JVM that said Sandra walked in on Melissa doing something to the 5 year old daughter. And since Melissa mentioned the child had to clean up her toys (being punished and couldn't play) and send Sandra away might match that scenerio.

[Izzy58]

JVM reports -KOVR in Sacramento

May have been involved in the production of porn.  Implication that MH was involved in a prior case of a 10yr old being drugged.

On my list of top 2:

Oh God Klass I am so on board. I feel it in my gut these two are involved some how even if indirectly.

I'm betting on Sinclair on the porn thing.....Fred helping to dispose of the suitcase

Fred is the one with virtually no income though and a very expensive house. I have always wondered where the money for the house came from.

If anyone has a paid membership to those search sites they may be able to find out what his income is, taxes, etc.....

[pink angel]

The report of an investigation into child porn could be as simple as someone wanting the "Tracy60" case looked into in association with this one.

I'll wait to hear it confirmed by LE.

[Deenie]

I think that MH got away with it the last time. The little girl that was in her possession " Taking her to the Park"  that she returned to her MOM. Mom was extremely upset that she had no phone number for MH and did not know exactly where her daughter was. 
..that was later to be found the little girl had drugs in her system after being with MH.

I think that MH was paid for providing that little girl. MH says in her own words I took her to the Park 3 times that week ..and talks about the Mom not having her cell number ..She I think thought OK ..I got away with this. The child is fine. Remembers nothing. No Medical Doc came forward and stated the child was abused.
Well I guess if you were knocked out -- you would not remember anything - have nothing to tell. No Red flag there. Not yet anyway.
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so she got Paid for that and then was told by who ever is in charge of this - Get us another child. And she thought .. Ok, last child was only drugged and ( my mind goes south - photo's were taken and or more) and that in MH's Mind - No one was hurt, nothing serious came of it ..and I was paid.
So here is Sandra Cantu standing on her Porch .. and MH thought Easy Prey.
Can I come in .. Can I play with Madison ? Its mid afternoon and a Friday .. and Sandra probably said to MH .. I am going to the Movies .. or something to the effect that Sandra would not be looked for ..for a few hours. Even though Sandra didnt have the money to go to the Movies. MH thought this will work. I will take Sandra for a few hours and return her home.

NO harm no Foul - like last time.
Yet I think the last little girl was much younger than Sandra .. And Sandra either fought her MH at the scene and or others and or was awake during heinous acts / or..a witness to others and or her own self being harmed. And they MH and ? felt that Sandra would talk, and or show sign's of abuse if returned home... so they killed her.

She was meant to be like the other girl... drugged and taken " abused without any bodily harm" " photographed" and returned home.
It didn't work out though..not like the last time.
Listen to MH talk about the little Girl who she took to the " Park".. on the Video.
* she is speaking on her phone to a reporter prior to her arrest ..

[Serenity7]

Just an odd thought...suppose the autopsy comes back with some evidence that shows someone else had to be involved? Where would the case center then? Opinions?

[klaasend]

Just an odd thought...suppose the autopsy comes back with some evidence that shows someone else had to be involved? Where would the case center then? Opinions?

If they know someone else is involved then they likely have DNA from that someone and I suspect it wouldn't be long before they are arrested.  It doesn't mean that Melissa is not guilty, only that she's not alone in the guilt.

[Edward]

Exactly..

[fatcatlurker]

Just an odd thought...suppose the autopsy comes back with some evidence that shows someone else had to be involved? Where would the case center then? Opinions?

It all comes down to the evidence for me and I guess they have MK due to evidence atleast I hope.  If someone else was there they should pay also. 

[no rose colored glasses]

Sounds to me that Melissa is probably talking up a storm, maybe some deal being made?

[Deenie]

Momma Maven
Rules you can teach your Daughter.
1. Adults do not ASK Children for Help.
2. Adults that are known yet still strangers - who Want your Daughters Attention - Instruct her that she has the right to say NO. She has the right to say I am leaving. She had the right to say - NO thank you. My Mom needs me. I am leaving and she does not need to look back. No Guilt on her part.
3. Give your Daughter a Code Word.

That if she says this Word - YOU know something is not right.
Lets say she goes to a sleep over and feels uncomfortable she wants YOU to come get her, but everyone is in the room and she is scared to tell you. Maybe she is being bullied or maybe she just feels the need ..she wants to go home..whatever ..
You and her pick a Code Word - and this Word is one that Only You and She knows.
Only to be said in case of Urgency or 911. This word will stick with her for many years.
My Dad and I made a Pact one day and we chose a phrase used in a Charlie Brown cartoon. And you know what - I had to use it One time.
Pick a word that she can put into a conversation with you on the phone - that wont' come off to others as strange or unusual. Maybe she has a favorite stuffed animal with a name .. That she could say on the phone to you .. Mom, " Teddy" was here.
That's it - its Done. MOM is told. NO one knows but MOM and child. Mom just gets in the car - drives to the house - and rings the door bell .. says Unfortunately we have a family emergency and My daughter has to come home. No one knows any different -
Your child is with you, no one can hurt her and you take her home.

If you do not offer resources for your child - they will not know how to react in situations. Give them the gift of Confidence to keep in their back pocket - teach them, tell them, and let them know that You are always available 24/7 - if they need you.
NO Matter what.
Pre-Teens/Teens
If they screwed up .. and they call you ..come get me. Deal with the screw up later. The most important thing is that they are ok and you have them at Home.

[Serenity7]

Just an odd thought...suppose the autopsy comes back with some evidence that shows someone else had to be involved? Where would the case center then? Opinions?

If they know someone else is involved then they likely have DNA from that someone and I suspect it wouldn't be long before they are arrested.  It doesn't mean that Melissa is not guilty, only that she's not alone in the guilt.

I guess I have two theories. I guess they aren't exactly mutually exclusive, but I'm damned to see how they'd fit together either. Theory One: For whatever reason, MH alone has allowed a degree of resentment to build up toward Sandra. After festering for a while (weeks or months), this resentment bursts out in a spontaneous anger that ends with the death of Sandra. At that point she calls someone to help her with the hiding and the removal of the body, but she herself has been the primary agent in carrying out the attack on Sandra.

Theory Two: In a more calculated effort, MH has asked someone to assist her in getting rid of Sandra because she's...for whatever reason...upset with Sandra's presence. She invites someone she knows to help her in an attack on Sandra. The actual attack being carried out by this someone else. Perhaps some dysfunctional element of this second person's personality is known to MH and she takes advantage of this for her own purposes. Under this theory, the planning would have been done via MH but the actually "heavy lifting" might have been done by someone else.

In both my theories, I have another person involved. I don't know if that is just a bias on my part, but I am having a real tough time believing this was done by one person alone.

The difficult part in my mind is that I feel like elements of BOTH theories might be present. Like this was both a sudden, impulsive, fly-off-the-handle sort of event...yet at the same time something that was pre-planned. I'm having a real tough time seeing how both those could be true.

[FishstickKitty]

Wow..Im thinking Nancy Grace has a girl crush on Caysee Anthony. I know it's a important story but omg..

Anyways she just said that huckaby confessed to cops saying it was an accident???

[pink angel]

Amber Alert announces Cantu memorial fund
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Bee Staff
Published: Wednesday, Apr. 15, 2009 - 3:24 pm

A memorial fund for Sandra Cantu, the Tracy girl who was kidnapped and killed, has been established by the Amber Alert Foundation in conjunction with Amber Alert GPS and Smart/i/tag. Donations can be dropped off at Umpqua Bank branches or mailed. Contributions should be made payable to: Sandra Cantu Memorial Fund, Account No. 991648908, Umpqua Bank, P.O.Box 1820, Roseburg, Ore., 94740.

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