Elizabeth Olten #2 10/29/09 - 11/18/09

[higherhopes]

Since I am older than dirt, I remember rushing home every Sunday night just to listen to the radio program, "The Shadow"... Anyone else do that?   

The sinister voice came over the radio with, "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"  The Shadow was a perfectly creepy teller of mystery tales.  I'd listen to those still, if I could.    

My parents were horrified, of course.  And I'd bet a good majority of us who were enthralled by The Shadow, did not grow up to be evil creepy people.  Am betting it's the same for some in this generation's seeming interest in Twilight and other things vampire-ish.  Seems there's an element of good over evil, just as it was with The Shadow. 

Still think they ought to bring back Mr. Ed.   

 

Exactly, and for those that haven't ventured into the twilight series or movie, there really isn't even any sex in it. It is tame, and boring I put the book down.

Really.   lol...I have read all 4 books and I liked them, but then I have 3 or 4 teenage girls around here at any given time and I wanted to see why they liked them so much......NewMoon comes out the 20th and we have a big night planned on the 21st to go see it, we have about 10 kids that are all going to watch this one just like the we did Twilight when it came out....they cant wait......lol

[no rose colored glasses]

Since I am older than dirt, I remember rushing home every Sunday night just to listen to the radio program, "The Shadow"... Anyone else do that?   

The sinister voice came over the radio with, "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"  The Shadow was a perfectly creepy teller of mystery tales.  I'd listen to those still, if I could.    

My parents were horrified, of course.  And I'd bet a good majority of us who were enthralled by The Shadow, did not grow up to be evil creepy people.  Am betting it's the same for some in this generation's seeming interest in Twilight and other things vampire-ish.  Seems there's an element of good over evil, just as it was with The Shadow. 

Still think they ought to bring back Mr. Ed.   

 

Exactly, and for those that haven't ventured into the twilight series or movie, there really isn't even any sex in it. It is tame, and boring I put the book down.

Really.   lol...I have read all 4 books and I liked them, but then I have 3 or 4 teenage girls around here at any given time and I wanted to see why they liked them so much......NewMoon comes out the 20th and we have a big night planned on the 21st to go see it, we have about 10 kids that are all going to watch this one just like the we did Twilight when it came out....they cant wait......lol

A lot of adults love the twilight series, my daughters sure do    The Twilight series has nothing to do with Vampire Freaks, nothing at all.

[Northern Rose]

The system in Missouri does have issues.  No wonder a scan of all the local news have NOTHING about Elizabeth.  Top headline - new recylcing sytem. 


Officials to Look Into Link Between Corrections Worker, Alleged Shooter
A robbery led to a shooting Tuesda
y in Jefferson City.
- Investigation Begins
Missouri Department of Corrections officials have launched an investigation into whether one of its employees had "any unauthorized contact" with a former inmate accused of shooting a man Tuesday. If it's found that Brenda Oakley - a cook for the Corrections Department - had improper contact with Patrick Evans, the case will be turned over to local investigators to determine if more charges should be filed. Evans was found Wednesday inside Oakley's home, hiding from police.  Posted by Matt LeBlanc

http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=15244&author=Greg%20Dingrando&category=Crime&franchise=Crime%20Alerts&county=Cole&city=Jefferson%20City&partner=
 

[Northern Rose]

KRCG has stopped posting comments on any of the stories around this case since Oct 30th .   

[trimmonthelake]

KRCG has stopped posting comments on any of the stories around this case since Oct 30th .   

 

[no rose colored glasses]

KRCG has stopped posting comments on any of the stories around this case since Oct 30th .   

 

They are trying to make this go away 

[Txsflame]

An intresting thought..AB has NOT been moved to her(SC) top friend. ANYONE who has a teen KNOWS the importance of being the #1 friend on MS. LOL I make top on my daughters when she is mad at her boyfriend.. and her brother gets the honor when she is mad at both me and bf..lol We know we are in for a bad day when "bubba" is on top of friends list! U can go thru MS all day and find commnets"why am Inot top friend"!!

 

[jill]

An intresting thought..AB has NOT been moved to her(SC) top friend. ANYONE who has a teen KNOWS the importance of being the #1 friend on MS. LOL I make top on my daughters when she is mad at her boyfriend.. and her brother gets the honor when she is mad at both me and bf..lol We know we are in for a bad day when "bubba" is on top of friends list! U can go thru MS all day and find commnets"why am Inot top friend"!!

 

 

I think AB became Smooth Crim's "bestie" when SC found out the news about AB's arrest.

BTW - wasn't sure if this has been posted (pls excuse if duplicate) but this myspace is Also SmoothCrim's.  She created it with a friend.  I would have to say that this friend, Allie, is most likely Charlotte's/SC's "bestie":

http://www.myspace.com/fuckinpurpleunicorns

[Northern Rose]

Sure looks like they are  trying to  make this go away or at least let is slip off the radar.  Love or hate NG she is keeping this in the media which is going to put pressure on the howdy dodie media in Jefferson City and fuel the outrage.  A child's life is not disposable.

 

[jill]

this might be the Allie she created the purple unicorn MS with (#2 on her friends, only MJ is higher, lol):

http://www.myspace.com/awsome_christian1

[no rose colored glasses]

An intresting thought..AB has NOT been moved to her(SC) top friend. ANYONE who has a teen KNOWS the importance of being the #1 friend on MS. LOL I make top on my daughters when she is mad at her boyfriend.. and her brother gets the honor when she is mad at both me and bf..lol We know we are in for a bad day when "bubba" is on top of friends list! U can go thru MS all day and find commnets"why am Inot top friend"!!

 

 

I think AB became Smooth Crim's "bestie" when SC found out the news about AB's arrest.

BTW - wasn't sure if this has been posted (pls excuse if duplicate) but this myspace is Also SmoothCrim's.  She created it with a friend.  I would have to say that this friend, Allie, is most likely Charlotte's/SC's "bestie":

http://www.myspace.com/fuckinpurpleunicorns

Sure appears that way.

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm glad NG isn't letting this go away.

[no rose colored glasses]

Ilovecookies 
Registered User   Join Date: Nov 2009
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Honestly, (I've told tricia this) I don't think that anyone saw this coming from AB (if that is indeed who did it). AB went to church voluntarily, and even went most mornings before school. She was a little introverted, but given the trauma I was told she experienced I would be too. She might be throwing up red flags in retrospect, but at that age I would have been throwing up the same red-flags as well. I used to listen to horrorcon music (ICP, Twitizd, Lotus, etc), I had hilter as one of my listed heroes, and I cut myself on an almost hourly basis. I think everyone can look back and see the red-flags, but as the red-flags progress (especially in JCHS) they are disregarded, because there are alot of angsty kids that are close to the same as AB. and you can't treat each one as a murderer, because it would be unfair to the ones that are truly just doing it out of angst.

I wonder how JCHS is doing. I fear for the safety of everyone (teachers included) in that school. It has been a disaster waiting to happen for years, and I fear that this might be the incident that sends it over the edge.

Sorry if my thoughts are jumbled and don't make any sense. and all this is jmo 
   Another post from WS.

[JOLfan]

I'm not understanding what you mean by Vampire blogs? Do you mean the Twilight stuff? I remember watching Dark Shadows when I was a kid and watching vampire movies. If it is the Twilight stuff, that is tame reading.

this kind of stuff, NoRose:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=174266347&albumId=2091637

I remember a few years ago I became aware that there are people in this world who WANT to look like vampires, and not just on Halloween!

Available now are crowns that are shaped like fangs that a dentist can fit - and also contact lenses to make eyes look vampirish.

Thanks, I read about the crowns and contact lenses to make one look like a vampire. Certainly not my cup of tea, but whatever. The fascination with vampires is nothing new.

When I was in high school (in the early 90's) there was a group of guys who referred to themselves as "The Lost Boys", after the movie.  They called themselves vampires and hung out in an open crypt in a cemetery in town. 

My mother still watches Dark Shadows...she rents the seasons from NetFlix.   

[Northern Rose]

Ilovecookies 
Registered User   Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 11 
 
Honestly, (I've told tricia this) I don't think that anyone saw this coming from AB (if that is indeed who did it). AB went to church voluntarily, and even went most mornings before school. She was a little introverted, but given the trauma I was told she experienced I would be too. She might be throwing up red flags in retrospect, but at that age I would have been throwing up the same red-flags as well. I used to listen to horrorcon music (ICP, Twitizd, Lotus, etc), I had hilter as one of my listed heroes, and I cut myself on an almost hourly basis. I think everyone can look back and see the red-flags, but as the red-flags progress (especially in JCHS) they are disregarded, because there are alot of angsty kids that are close to the same as AB. and you can't treat each one as a murderer, because it would be unfair to the ones that are truly just doing it out of angst.

I wonder how JCHS is doing. I fear for the safety of everyone (teachers included) in that school. It has been a disaster waiting to happen for years, and I fear that this might be the incident that sends it over the edge.

Sorry if my thoughts are jumbled and don't make any sense. and all this is jmo 
   Another post from WS.

I wonder how JCHS is doing. I fear for the safety of everyone (teachers included) in that school. It has been a disaster waiting to happen for years, and I fear that this might be the incident that sends it over the edge.

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I have this same fear.  The School district mentioned nothing about counseling for the HS.  Their main message as I interpreted their official statements has been was "did not happen on our property - move along".  This IMO is an indicator that they have serious issues and know it.  Issues will not go away by sweeping them under a rug nor will they  get better by the local media not reporting on the issues.  Why is information so dangerous in JC?  To me , it seems they are trying to create a scripted reality where everything is fine and the Koolaid is yummy.

[Searching]

O/T  do we have a thread for baby Shannon yet?

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21492413/detail.html

Yes.  Link to Shannon Lea Dedrick's thread: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6410.msg1002751#new

 

[no rose colored glasses]

I'm not understanding what you mean by Vampire blogs? Do you mean the Twilight stuff? I remember watching Dark Shadows when I was a kid and watching vampire movies. If it is the Twilight stuff, that is tame reading.

this kind of stuff, NoRose:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=174266347&albumId=2091637

I remember a few years ago I became aware that there are people in this world who WANT to look like vampires, and not just on Halloween!

Available now are crowns that are shaped like fangs that a dentist can fit - and also contact lenses to make eyes look vampirish.

Thanks, I read about the crowns and contact lenses to make one look like a vampire. Certainly not my cup of tea, but whatever. The fascination with vampires is nothing new.

When I was in high school (in the early 90's) there was a group of guys who referred to themselves as "The Lost Boys", after the movie.  They called themselves vampires and hung out in an open crypt in a cemetery in town. 

My mother still watches Dark Shadows...she rents the seasons from NetFlix.   

Dark Shadows is great, and I loved the movie The Lost Boys. Vampire books and movies have been around for a long time. It goes in and out with popularity. Right now vampires are big again, the show True Blood is also very good. I guess with anything if you become obsessed that is never good, and with some people their obsessions can become deadly. But the great majority of people can watch and read things without going over the edge.

[no rose colored glasses]

From different things I've read from locals, there sure seems to be a very bad problem in the area. One of the things I read, which now I don't remember where, there is a big meth problem in the area. But, unfortunately there is a meth problem all across the country 

[mommy2many]

O/T  do we have a thread for baby Shannon yet?

http://www.news4jax.com/news/21492413/detail.html

ok i just don't get it!  this is so stupid! no amber alert? why?  because Washington County Sheriff Bobby Haddock says "nothing at this time makes them think the baby was abducted, but she "didn’t crawl or walk away."  how dumb does this comment sound?  augh!

[Fanny Mae]

Sure looks like they are  trying to  make this go away or at least let is slip off the radar.  Love or hate NG she is keeping this in the media which is going to put pressure on the howdy dodie media in Jefferson City and fuel the outrage.  A child's life is not disposable.

 

I'm glad you posted this picture of Elizabeth Olten again. Again, it looks like the victim gets forgotten and it is all about the perp.