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Tibrogargan
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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February 13, 2008, 05:03:01 PM »
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 13, 2008, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 02:31:58 PM
Exotic....DNA?
YEP
and now the DNA
Only two references I can find that could fit :
donga (dong´g²)
n.
(S Afr., Austral.) a gully, a watercourse with steep sides.
donna (don´²)
n.
1 an Italian lady.
2 (Donna) an Italian title for, or form of address to, a lady, Madame, madam.
[It., from L domina, lady]
It is a bit early in the day for me to be tangoing
Caps - I have noticed how your English has improved in the short time you have been posting here. Congratulations. I hope we have been able to help you with our language.
You have to ignore how I spell some words as we are taught the British version of English.
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Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 04:48:27 PM
Icehawk...on page 52 are all the links to what we have here at SM..if that's any help...not sure how far down the page though....Lala's and a few others have a lot of their own stuff...many hours of research...good to see you here...
Thanks MumInOhio
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Taking the exercise even further you can get :
dental (we all know this one)
denial
n.
1 the act of denying.
2 a negative reply.
3 abjuration, disavowal.
4 self-denial.
5 (Psych.) (subconscious) suppression of unacceptable knowledge or feelings.
edental
a.
edentate.
~ n.
an edentate animal.
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February 13, 2008, 06:02:04 PM »
From BFN:
Aristotle wrote:
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I am going to go out on a limb here. This is only my opinion, like it or not, i don't care. I reread shango recently and after devries "confession" by joran, i finally think i understand what shango was saying. IMO joran is still lying to protect others. IMO Mos should go to Bonaire and question vanderstraten. I won't bore you with my line by line translations, but here is the gist. (and by the way, more than one source in aruba have confirmed that they have heard that these parties DO exist).
long ago in holland, a tradition was started where older influential men would meet and party..drugs, etc., and a younger girl or girls would be brought to them to satisfy their sexual pleasures. Some of those men over the years transplanted to Aruba, yet they kept up the tradition, allowing others into their "group." These others likely consist of politicians and others in "power" positions.
there was one of these parties held in May 2005. The "guest of honor" at this party...the young girl... was natalee. She was lured to the party by joran. The 2k dropped them off, as the 2k were not permitted at the party. Something bad happened to natalee at the party. joran was not the one who directly harmed her...he just lead her to this party. Paulus and Vanderstraten know about these parties, and this party in particular. Vanderstraten knows who harmed natalee. Other members of the ALE attend these parties as well. joran cannot tell the truth about what happened to natalee because to do so would expose all of these other people. Many of the politicians and policemen of aruba, and others...possibly judges, attorneys, etc., would lose their jobs over this and tourism would decline because tourists would not feel safe on an island littered with crooked cops.
the searches, arrests, court proceedings, etc. have been orchestrated to deceive the Americans/world and hide the truth about the island. everything, right down to joran's recent "confession" has been a sham, smoke and mirrors and a horse and pony show. The ALE knows that the Americans/world is not going to let this go until someone is blamed for natalee's death. joran is the obvious scapegoat because he was last seen with her and did not cause her death, so he can't be found guilty of that.
the truth of Shango's posts will remain hidden, as will the truth about what happened to natalee until these parties and their participants are exposed. According to shango, Vanderstraten did not participate directly in these parties, but he knew about them and did not shut them down.
IMO all of the people involved in these parties, and this party in particular, should be held accountable as they have misdirected the "investigation" from the start and up to the present time. The question is, will Mos break the case wide open by exposing this, or is he a participant in these parties and/or the cover up?
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CapsLockWizard
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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February 13, 2008, 07:02:56 PM »
Quote from: Tibrogargan on February 13, 2008, 05:03:01 PM
Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 13, 2008, 02:42:38 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 02:31:58 PM
Exotic....DNA?
YEP
and now the DNA
Only two references I can find that could fit :
donga (dong´g²)
n.
(S Afr., Austral.) a gully, a watercourse with steep sides.
donna (don´²)
n.
1 an Italian lady.
2 (Donna) an Italian title for, or form of address to, a lady, Madame, madam.
[It., from L domina, lady]
It is a bit early in the day for me to be tangoing
Caps - I have noticed how your English has improved in the short time you have been posting here. Congratulations. I hope we have been able to help you with our language.
You have to ignore how I spell some words as we are taught the British version of English.
XTC DNA
eXoTiC DiNnA = EXOTIC DINNA
XTC DNA is restaurand specializing in Exotic food.
Now which ethnic is easy to fined.
We all know that the chinese do not pronounce the (R) letter
In chinese if a word start with an (R) they will substitute the letter with an (L) e.g Aruba they will say phonetic Aluba.
Now it the word terminate in an (R), the will just leave it out.
So D N A = DiNnA (Phonetic)
so XTC DNA = An exotic chinese restaurant.
The rest of the riddle is also easy
Try-it
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Debra
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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February 13, 2008, 07:08:08 PM »
Quote from: vms on February 13, 2008, 06:02:04 PM
From BFN:
Aristotle wrote:
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Amen, Ari! What I have been trying to express for so long!
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Lala'sMom
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #1886 on:
February 13, 2008, 07:35:55 PM »
Quote from: vms on February 13, 2008, 06:02:04 PM
From BFN:
Aristotle wrote:
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I am going to go out on a limb here. This is only my opinion, like it or not, i don't care. I reread shango recently and after devries "confession" by joran, i finally think i understand what shango was saying. IMO joran is still lying to protect others. IMO Mos should go to Bonaire and question vanderstraten. I won't bore you with my line by line translations, but here is the gist. (and by the way, more than one source in aruba have confirmed that they have heard that these parties DO exist).
long ago in holland, a tradition was started where older influential men would meet and party..drugs, etc., and a younger girl or girls would be brought to them to satisfy their sexual pleasures. Some of those men over the years transplanted to Aruba, yet they kept up the tradition, allowing others into their "group." These others likely consist of politicians and others in "power" positions.
there was one of these parties held in May 2005. The "guest of honor" at this party...the young girl... was natalee. She was lured to the party by joran. The 2k dropped them off, as the 2k were not permitted at the party. Something bad happened to natalee at the party. joran was not the one who directly harmed her...he just lead her to this party. Paulus and Vanderstraten know about these parties, and this party in particular. Vanderstraten knows who harmed natalee. Other members of the ALE attend these parties as well. joran cannot tell the truth about what happened to natalee because to do so would expose all of these other people. Many of the politicians and policemen of aruba, and others...possibly judges, attorneys, etc., would lose their jobs over this and tourism would decline because tourists would not feel safe on an island littered with crooked cops.
the searches, arrests, court proceedings, etc. have been orchestrated to deceive the Americans/world and hide the truth about the island. everything, right down to joran's recent "confession" has been a sham, smoke and mirrors and a horse and pony show. The ALE knows that the Americans/world is not going to let this go until someone is blamed for natalee's death. joran is the obvious scapegoat because he was last seen with her and did not cause her death, so he can't be found guilty of that.
the truth of Shango's posts will remain hidden, as will the truth about what happened to natalee until these parties and their participants are exposed. According to shango, Vanderstraten did not participate directly in these parties, but he knew about them and did not shut them down.
IMO all of the people involved in these parties, and this party in particular, should be held accountable as they have misdirected the "investigation" from the start and up to the present time. The question is, will Mos break the case wide open by exposing this, or is he a participant in these parties and/or the cover up?
This is what I have said over and over. Shango was telling us about the "routine" that takes place. Also, notice that van der Straaten is labeled as Dirty Hand...again what I have said over and over.
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Debra
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February 13, 2008, 07:47:35 PM »
We are over-analyzing a creative person's "story"....
told thru the veil of "Santeria", etc. images.
A story of sex, drugs and rock & roll ....."Follow the Music"
With the higher ups on Aruba...Corruption.
One that he has most likely been a part of....
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Chata
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Re: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know?
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Reply #1888 on:
February 13, 2008, 07:49:09 PM »
Quote from: Lala'sMom on February 13, 2008, 07:35:55 PM
Quote from: vms on February 13, 2008, 06:02:04 PM
From BFN:
Aristotle wrote:
This is exactly what RINGO was getting at when unriddling Shango back in 2005. Someone paraphrased Doyle, "...remove the impossible and what you are left with is truth"
I don't think Aruba has gotten to the truth yet.
LaLa's, Mum, Caps ... keep pressing on.
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MumInOhio
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Tib
…G’day mate…you have the hono
u
r of first mention in my 2000th post…
Vms
… Thanks for bringing this over
Lala’s
…the routine…It’s what I have thought as well…but we need the names and places
Caps
…The Indo Restaurant…is that next to the Lion’s Den?
Just said today I was over analyzing…..
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Tibrogargan
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Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
Tib
…G’day mate…you have the hono
u
r of first mention in my 2000th post…
Vms
… Thanks for bringing this over
Lala’s
…the routine…It’s what I have thought as well…but we need the names and places
Caps
…The Indo Restaurant…is that next to the Lion’s Den?
Just said today I was over analyzing…..
G'day Mum - I am indeed hono
u
red
As for over analysing - yes we do get to a point of not being able to see the forest for the trees. But it is just so intriguing .......
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CapsLockWizard
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February 13, 2008, 10:38:59 PM »
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
Tib
…G’day mate…you have the hono
u
r of first mention in my 2000th post…
Vms
… Thanks for bringing this over
Lala’s
…the routine…It’s what I have thought as well…but we need the names and places
Caps
…The Indo Restaurant…is that next to the Lion’s Den?
Just said today I was over analyzing…..
No, It is not
LALA have you read my report?
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Observer
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I have often thought of something like what Ari's theory is,but why would they block the search of the VDS home and the reports of the blood in Deepak's car? All a smoke screen? A dutch poster the other day brought up the PV from one of the MB girls about the phonecalls to rosemarie about a massage or something outside of the HI. Then we also have the MB student who had to be carried back to the HI on the 28th. Also the mysterious urine tests in NY done to Hayley Carroro on 6/6/05. Were there attempts on others that failed?
It reminds me of Pausebreaks spoof at RU
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1291.40
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*******
...thanks...I remember reading that now
Tib....
can't see the esses for the zees...LOL
Chata....
anymore that you can remember?
COLUMBO
...I expected to see you this morning!
Can anyone open those Lion's links this morning...maybe it's just me....again!
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 13, 2008, 04:29:58 PM
Remember Monkeys...
Dir. = ?
T. = first Name
y = Phonetic in dutch
Hand=Translate in papia mento
He is a bussiness owner and his lastname was the only one on the MEP party.
More to come...but I'm having difficulty getting on the net...complete disconnect. every 5 min.
English to Pap translator...hand=man?????Gottcha...I am getting better at these riddles...must be the coffee....
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Caps....did you say those links went down again yesterday?
I can't find a "T".....
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 13, 2008, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
Tib
…G’day mate…you have the hono
u
r of first mention in my 2000th post…
Vms
… Thanks for bringing this over
Lala’s
…the routine…It’s what I have thought as well…but we need the names and places
Caps
…The Indo Restaurant…is that next to the Lion’s Den?
Just said today I was over analyzing…..
No, It is not
LALA have you read my report?
Caps...No, it is not...it is not the Indo Restaurant or it is not next to the Lion's Den? TIA
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The post by aristotle that vms bought over from BFN would certainly explain Joran's use of a phone and computer while detained. Also explain the lack of questioning or their 'refusal' to answer questions.
COLUMBO...you're penthouse suite would be a possibility or a big white house. I wonder who that one belonged to that we had pics of, with the same young girl, a while back. The one that had some foreigners in it.
I wonder who would do the targeting...3 days...the cartoon...possibly from video tapes...now who would have access to those?
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LOL...posting to myself on two threads this morning....
The reason Ari's theory sounds more plausible to me than the Russian/North Korean Mafia one is that I can't see any way that Joran would still be on this earth if the Mafia was involved...thoughts COLUMBO?
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Quote from: CapsLockWizard on February 13, 2008, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on February 13, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
Tib
…G’day mate…you have the hono
u
r of first mention in my 2000th post…
Vms
… Thanks for bringing this over
Lala’s
…the routine…It’s what I have thought as well…but we need the names and places
Caps
…The Indo Restaurant…is that next to the Lion’s Den?
Just said today I was over analyzing…..
No, It is not
LALA have you read my report?
Yes. I have read it...many times over. I can not make the connections you do. I am sorry...I am still trying. I still say Shango's riddles are useless unless someone understands them. They were not written for people on Aruba, they were written for internet posters...so either they are simple in nature or they are a bunch of malarky. Now, I think there are valid points in both Simian and Shango. I just can't see the connections you have...it is because I am not there and have not lived it like you have. Problem here is this...and I think this is why it's so hard to make you understand and for me as well...just because you say it doesn't make it so. It requires proof that this is correct. I have to work with what I have at the moment. I am trying, but contrary to popular belief...I am not a conspiracy theorist. That makes it harder for me to piece together.
If indeed, you are correct about the Ritz and the kidnapping and all the other stuff...then Aruba is in big, big trouble and so are a lot of other people. Don't get me wrong, if it's true...it needs to be told. I am just too dumb to understand it I guess. I will keep plodding on and hope I have one of those "ah ha" type moments. You have done a lot of work here.
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===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
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===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
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=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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