Natalee Case Discussion #828 1/28/10 - 2/14/10

[jen3560]

The house of cards is doing what Art Wood predicted it would.  It is beginning to crumble.  The top card has fallen.

Which one will be next?

Satish Kalpoe they are coming for you next!!!  Get ready to start talking before you disappear.

I wonder if he's seeing ghosts again yet.....

[San]

The house of cards is doing what Art Wood predicted it would.  It is beginning to crumble.  The top card has fallen.

Which one will be next?

I wouldn't want to be standing close to any of them.

Wonderful that Jan van der Straaten no longer has to worry about hurting his friend.  He always seemed like he wanted to say more.  I wouldn't want to be standing close to him right now either.

Who the hell is going to feed Dennis Jacobs if his buddy Straaten is gone.  You know making all that money for the coverup helped with the food bills and they were big food bills.

[jen3560]

The house of cards is doing what Art Wood predicted it would.  It is beginning to crumble.  The top card has fallen.

Which one will be next?

I wouldn't want to be standing close to any of them.

Wonderful that Jan van der Straaten no longer has to worry about hurting his friend.  He always seemed like he wanted to say more.  I wouldn't want to be standing close to him right now either.

Excellent point!

What was it that Aruba has in lieu of State's witness - Crown Witness?  Used only in big conspiracy cases?  What's more of a conspiracy than two Justice Officials colluding to cover up a kidnapping, rape and murder?

I wonder what that investigation into Uncle Jan came up with?  I wonder if now his pal is dead, he will roll to save his own hide?

[Northern Rose]

The house of cards is doing what Art Wood predicted it would.  It is beginning to crumble.  The top card has fallen.

Which one will be next?

Satish Kalpoe they are coming for you next!!!  Get ready to start talking before you disappear.

....

[jen3560]

The house of cards is doing what Art Wood predicted it would.  It is beginning to crumble.  The top card has fallen.

Which one will be next?

I wouldn't want to be standing close to any of them.

Wonderful that Jan van der Straaten no longer has to worry about hurting his friend.  He always seemed like he wanted to say more.  I wouldn't want to be standing close to him right now either.

Who the hell is going to feed Dennis Jacobs if his buddy Straaten is gone.  You know making all that money for the coverup helped with the food bills and they were big food bills.

HA!  Don't worry about Jacobs.  He still has his buddy Boeti!! 

[Bearlyhere]

Destiny calling Aruba...... 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k9e3dTOJi0o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6&amp;border=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/k9e3dTOJi0o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6&amp;border=1</a>

OPEN YOUR BEING....let her in...I can't do this much longer......
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3045.780

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3045.msg399271#msg399271  on the same thread...they should have listened to me.

 

[Port Valerie]

Well, this is a wow. I like Jossy's statement. Maybe now something can change. Who the heck goes to school in Thailand? Wow.

[Northern Rose]

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot kan zonder problemen naar Aruba om afscheid te nemen van zijn vader. Volgens hoofdofficier mr. Peter Blanken is "een arrestatie niet gepast in zo'n situatie. Ook biedt het onderzoek geen aanleiding tot een aanhouding bij zijn komst.''

Dit meldt De Telegraaf vandaag.
 "Of Joran alsnog voor de rechter moet komen, zullen we later dit jaar beslissen", zegt de hoofdofficier. "Het is een ingewikkelde zaak, mede omdat er nooit een lichaam is gevonden." (EBO)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/462969/2010/02/12/Joran-mag-naar-begrafenis-vader.dhtml


Translated


Joran can father to burial

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot is no problem to Aruba to say goodbye to his father. '' According to Chief mr Peter Whites is "an arrest is not appropriate in this situation. It also provides an examination not cause an arrest on his arrival.''

 The De Telegraaf reported today.
"If Joran still must come to court, we will decide later this year", says the Chief. "It is a complex matter, partly because there never was a body found." (EBO) 

[wingnut]

 

My money is on van der Straten.  I think he has always wanted to do the right thing.  He seems to be the only one in the whole lot of them with a conscience. 

[klaasend]

From 2007 and Joran's book:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-b7-VpX00p4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/-b7-VpX00p4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6</a>

[crazybabyborg]

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot kan zonder problemen naar Aruba om afscheid te nemen van zijn vader. Volgens hoofdofficier mr. Peter Blanken is "een arrestatie niet gepast in zo'n situatie. Ook biedt het onderzoek geen aanleiding tot een aanhouding bij zijn komst.''

Dit meldt De Telegraaf vandaag.
 "Of Joran alsnog voor de rechter moet komen, zullen we later dit jaar beslissen", zegt de hoofdofficier. "Het is een ingewikkelde zaak, mede omdat er nooit een lichaam is gevonden." (EBO)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/462969/2010/02/12/Joran-mag-naar-begrafenis-vader.dhtml


Translated


Joran can father to burial

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot is no problem to Aruba to say goodbye to his father. '' According to Chief mr Peter Whites is "an arrest is not appropriate in this situation. It also provides an examination not cause an arrest on his arrival.''

 The De Telegraaf reported today.
"If Joran still must come to court, we will decide later this year", says the Chief. "It is a complex matter, partly because there never was a body found." (EBO) 

Neither is being murdered while on a graduation celebration!

Well good, I say! I hope he does come to Aruba! The media attention will be all the more because of it, and the world will once again be reminded of Natalee and what happened to her on that one happy island!

[crazybabyborg]

Destiny calling Aruba...... 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/k9e3dTOJi0o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6&amp;border=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/k9e3dTOJi0o&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6&amp;border=1</a>

OPEN YOUR BEING....let her in...I can't do this much longer......
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3045.780

The "Post of the Day Award" went to Carpe that night:

Carpe:  "Dang it, I had OPENED MY BEING, and Des said she had a headache!

Story of my life.


I love ya, Des... feel better, girl".

                 Ohmmmmm, Ohmmmmmm

[Bearlyhere]

Just think, now Joran is the man of the house.  You got your delicious sporter to help you with the household now mamma.  It will go to the casinos in no time. 

Cha-ching!

You might want the sporter locked up after all.

Cha-chang!

[Bearlyhere]

It was a TYPO! I meant to say "honey" not "hiney"! I saw it, but everything froze!   

sowwy! I've just now been able to get back on!

Oh, the visual just about made me barf!

 

[Port Valerie]

I just picked up on this news about an hour ago. Still saying wow. I'm glad the Monkeys are still here to process this new turn of events.

[Bearlyhere]

Good morning! So, will Joran come home and take care of his Mama?  If so, will she get tired of his crapola?  Joran's lifestyle is slowly crumbling around him.  All the Holloway's wanted from day one was to know where their daughter was and if it was an accident, to be man enough to say so. Here we are, almost 5 years later, waiting for someone to be man enough to tell the truth.  Here goes the next chapter.  I'm staying and praying until the final chapter and the truth comes out.     

Show me a man in that bunch.   

Not anywhere near a man, possessing three legs does not a true man make, it takes much more than that.

 

[Blonde]

Hello Monkeys!  Here to gloat shamelessly!

ANITA - What were your first words when you heard the news?  Probably the same as Beth's.  "What happened?"  You got your question answered.

PAULUS - Bet you're sweating your azz off now.  Not due to keeping the secrets, but because now they are REVEALED.  You may have fooled the Aruban authorities, but the Authority That Counts is not fooled.  Burn and rot. 

Hiya wingnut!  So good to see you!!! 

Yes, Anita did get her question answered.  She will be able to grieve completely, and put her loved one to rest.

Beth and Dave deserve that also.

Do you wonder how the cause of death was determined so quickly?  No autopsy?  I do.  Do you also wonder why no pics of his dead body in their papers (not that I've ever wanted to see those), like they've done with most dead bodies?  Do you also wonder why the extremely quick decision on cremation?  Word has it they are already on their way to the NL with the body.

In the states, he would have been a coroner's case.  Sudden death can be heart (not necessarily a heart attack), aneurysm, aortic dissection, stroke, drugs....etc.  Unless he had been under the care of a physician, for a disease that could have caused death, he would have been a coroner's case. Stress in and of itself, is not a risk factor.  Hostility (people that look nice but are really angry and evil) is a risk factor.  Hope Anita gets checked out.

Well according to Renho he was healthy, and this death was sudden and unexpected.  If that is the case, were I in Anita's shoes, I would have insisted on an autopsy to determine what happened.

Just maybe, someone slipped something into his drink like they did to Natalee You never know.

[Anna]

Buckeye - agreed.  I just find it a bit strange.  It's just not sitting right with me.
Who determined it was a heart attack?  The same people who said blood was chocolate nearly 5 years ago?

Good questions-is he even really dead????   

Hi, Ono!  Good to see you.  Got snow?


Yes, that was a thought I also had.  We hear of people faking their own death all the time, especially to collect insurance policy benefits.  Maybe the pressure of being watched all the time was getting to him.

Strange if no autopsy was done in this day and age as most people want to know what disease the deceased died from as part of their medical history to know what hereditary  disease is in their genes.

[jen3560]

Buckeye - agreed.  I just find it a bit strange.  It's just not sitting right with me.
Who determined it was a heart attack?  The same people who said blood was chocolate nearly 5 years ago?

Good questions-is he even really dead????   

Hi, Ono!  Good to see you.  Got snow?


Yes, that was a thought I also had.  We hear of people faking their own death all the time, especially to collect insurance policy benefits.  Maybe the pressure of being watched all the time was getting to him.

Strange if no autopsy was done in this day and age as most people want to know what disease the deceased died from as part of their medical history to know what hereditary  disease is in their genes.

It was being reported as a heart attack the night of, for heaven's sake.  How could they have known that?

[Bearlyhere]

Maybe Antonio Carlo was distancing himself from Paulus van der Sloot

This is starting to get interesting!  I agree about the Kalpoes ................. they should take your advice and try to take asylum in the US. It only takes one "link in the chain" to fail for the whole length to be worthless. That first "masterlink" just failed!

And reportedly Joran is returning to Aruba any day now?

Hmmmmmmmmm

Think long and hard about that, Kalpoes.

A special gift for the Kalpoes.  Something to wear when Joran comes home or next time you want to go cruising! 



You were the last choice of a pimp who used you for a ride.  Last choice of a pimp...don't you want to tell the truth and remove yourselves from his evil shadow?

 

Don't spend the rest of your lives doing this:



 


Come clean!  Momma can't wash your drawers forever.