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Title: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14 5/07/09 - 5/20/09
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 01, 2009, 09:08:43 AM
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Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 07, 2009, 08:02:44 PM
New Cage!!!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: San on May 07, 2009, 08:04:38 PM
Thanks Muffy good job.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 07, 2009, 08:05:08 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::        ::MonkeyAngel::              ::MonkeyAngel:: 

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 07, 2009, 08:08:21 PM
Bringing over Maven's post. 

Interview with Cobra:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120786


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 07, 2009, 08:10:13 PM
Bringing over Maven's post. 

Interview with Cobra:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120786

There is more to the article, but this is the interview that Cobra gave.

Cobra was kind enough to grant an interview:

S: Are you from Florida?

C: Originally I’m from Virginia, a Virginia common wealth boy. I moved to Florida in 1975, I reside in Broward County.

S: You are a bondsmen and investigator right?

C: I am a licensed private investigator by the state of Florida, a licensed bondsmen in the state of Florida, and a licensed general contractor in the state of Florida.

S: You work for yourself right?

C: Yes I own Case Closed Inc. and Lighting Strike Force bail bonds company

S: Do you believe Haleigh is alive?

C: YES

S: Is Haleigh being passed around through different people?

C: Yes family type people. I will put it this way, law enforcement does not think a stranger is involved in the abduction.

S: Do you know who has her know?

C: If I did I would be hugging Haleigh right now not here with you.

S: Who has custody of Ron Jr.?

C: Ron Cummings has physical custody of Ron Jr.  They live at Ron’s grandmothers in Welaka, Florida.

S: Do you think Ron Cummings is who he portrays himself to be for the media?
C: NO

S: Do you think Crystal Sheffield is who she portrays herself to be for the media?

C: NO I don’t think any of them have clean hands.

S: Are Nay Nay and Amber still part of the investigation?

C: Never were. I helped them by trying to get them into rehab to better themselves, but they have reneged on it.

S: Did you ask Ron to go back to the house for another look?

C: Yes, he initially said ok. It was planned for the following day. By that time he had lawyered up. And told me that anything you need you can talk to my lawyer about.

S: Is Ron out searching for his daughter?

C: Hell NO

S: Out of curiosity how much has your search for Haleigh cost you?

C: To date approximately $35,000

S: Are drugs a factor in Haleigh’s disappearance?

C: Ron allowed Misty to care for Haleigh and Jr. after days of partying on drugs. So yes drugs could be a factor.

S: Are you getting opposition from the local commutniy?

C: Yes  but I have some support.

S: Could there be charges for Ron and or Misty when Haleigh is found?

C: Whoever did this needs to be charged

S: Has Ron ever helped you in your search for Haleigh?

C: NO

S: Has Ron ever thanked you for searching for Haleigh?

C: NO

S:How close are you to finding Haleigh?

C: Thats on God’s time table, I pray every day.

S: Is there anything you would like to say to the haters? I call them my fannery.

C: Quit your b*tching  get up and help find Haleigh.

S: Cobra I really want to thank you for taking time to talk with me. You have answered a lot of questions that I, and many other people have about this case. I am sure I speak for many people when I say thank you for sticking with this case. If my kids were missing I would want Cobra searching for them.

Thank you, Mr. Staubs for your time. Thank you for not tucking tail and skinning out on Haleigh. God bless you sir.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 07, 2009, 08:12:19 PM
Interesting interview


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 07, 2009, 08:26:43 PM
Interesting interview
yes it was,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yea new cage...........maybe this will be the last one,  maybe Haleigh will be found before we complete it or even get started good!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 07, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Bringing over Maven's post. 

Interview with Cobra:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120786

Am so glad Cobra is still there...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 07, 2009, 08:33:55 PM
Bringing over Maven's post. 

Interview with Cobra:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120786

Thanks Grama! Someone posted it over yonder, and I was trying to wait till after page 100 to bring it over here, it was just taking forever.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 07, 2009, 08:49:36 PM
Oh JNGA.. You are so elegant and beautiful. Love it. Did Brandi do that? ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 07, 2009, 08:59:21 PM
Bringing over Maven's post. 

Interview with Cobra:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120786

Thanks Grama! Someone posted it over yonder, and I was trying to wait till after page 100 to bring it over here, it was just taking forever.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I know I was reading while waiting for the jump to the new cage, so while had it up on the screen thought best to bring it over....very interesting info to share.

Thanks for that, Maven.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 07, 2009, 09:09:44 PM
Has anyone heard anymore about the house that Ron was supposed to be getting???  Remember, when they were in the tents, someone offered him a home with 3 bedrooms, and he refused, as wanted one with 4 bedrooms.

Was this supposed to be a donated house...fully paid, or just a house to rent??

I haven't heard anymore, and since he moved to GGSykes, guess the deal fell thru.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 07, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
Has anyone heard anymore about the house that Ron was supposed to be getting???  Remember, when they were in the tents, someone offered him a home with 3 bedrooms, and he refused, as wanted one with 4 bedrooms.

Was this supposed to be a donated house...fully paid, or just a house to rent??

I haven't heard anymore, and since he moved to GGSykes, guess the deal fell thru.
I thought I heard he was buying it, maybe the people wouldnt sell it to him when word got out just like the preacher wouldnt Marry him..........I dont know, never heard anymore about it either!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 07, 2009, 09:15:15 PM
Has anyone heard anymore about the house that Ron was supposed to be getting???  Remember, when they were in the tents, someone offered him a home with 3 bedrooms, and he refused, as wanted one with 4 bedrooms.

Was this supposed to be a donated house...fully paid, or just a house to rent??

I haven't heard anymore, and since he moved to GGSykes, guess the deal fell thru.

I haven't heard anything more about that, but maybe the wedding or tattoo or other rumored behaviors canceled the deal.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 07, 2009, 09:17:43 PM
Cobra said "Quit your b....ing and let's find Haleigh " gotta love it !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 07, 2009, 09:20:11 PM
or maybe it was just another rumor about the house deal ::MonkeyConfused:: not like it hasn't happened before...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 07, 2009, 09:23:28 PM
I wouldn't let ron sleep in my local dumpster . Oops didn't mean to b...h ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 07, 2009, 09:24:47 PM
Thats right could have been a rumor, who knows, some can make up rumors and it is fine and some can just give opinions and get called out on them everytme, Its getting hard to keep up with what has actually happened and what has just been said by someone, Thats why I wish LE would give a press conference and put all the rumors V/s the truth out there for everyone to see!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 07, 2009, 09:25:50 PM
Oh JNGA.. You are so elegant and beautiful. Love it. Did Brandi do that? ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks, I saw it in CBB's thread and just loved it.  Brandi did a wonderful job with yours, it's absolutly beautiful.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 07, 2009, 09:27:33 PM
HH I hear ya! it would be really really nice if LE would throw us a tiny crumb! geez loueez....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 09:31:40 PM
Bringing over Maven's post. 

Interview with Cobra:

http://www.bloggernews.net/120786

Thanks Grama! Someone posted it over yonder, and I was trying to wait till after page 100 to bring it over here, it was just taking forever.  ::MonkeyTongue::

I know I was reading while waiting for the jump to the new cage, so while had it up on the screen thought best to bring it over....very interesting info to share.

Thanks for that, Maven.

Very very interesting.. I agree..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 09:42:07 PM
Good Evening Monkey's... Brought you all something....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 07, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
Hey does anybody know if they did in fact make the movie Tarzan on a small island somewhere around Satsuma, I was just wondering if it was true and just where it is located as far as distance to where the St, Johns river came up to Ronald house..........    Yes, I heard this on Topix and was just wondering if anybody knows???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 09:50:40 PM
I forget which player eith Amber brook or prevatt are from the San Mateo area. ::MonkeyTongue::


2009-5-7 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

Holsey
 San Mateo - On May 6, 2009, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Drug/Vice Unit and the Florida Highway arrested a 38 year old San Mateo man with trafficking in cocaine. The investigation was initiated by a traffic stop on Highway 17, in San Mateo. The driver of the vehicle was identified as Gregory D. Holsey. During the traffic stop, Holsey exited his vehicle and fled on foot, only to be apprehended a short distance away. After his apprehension, it was discovered that Holsey was in possession of sixty-one (61) grams of powder cocaine.

Gregory D. Holsey was charged with trafficking in cocaine and transported to the Putnam County Jail. He was booked into the jail without benefit of a bond.


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 10:10:30 PM
Good Evening Monkey's... Brought you all something....

Oh Thank you, thank you, thank you.. that just hits the spot...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 07, 2009, 10:10:52 PM
Good Evening Monkey's... Brought you all something....

Thanks JG!

I think the article is talking about this guy ... it does show a bond, but he is 38 and from San Mateo, can't remember which ho .... sorry I meant ...girl is from where.  ::MonkeyConfused::

Edit to add link:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753903&IMG=46079


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 10:12:25 PM
I forget which player eith Amber brook or prevatt are from the San Mateo area. ::MonkeyTongue::


2009-5-7 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

Holsey
 San Mateo - On May 6, 2009, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Drug/Vice Unit and the Florida Highway arrested a 38 year old San Mateo man with trafficking in cocaine. The investigation was initiated by a traffic stop on Highway 17, in San Mateo. The driver of the vehicle was identified as Gregory D. Holsey. During the traffic stop, Holsey exited his vehicle and fled on foot, only to be apprehended a short distance away. After his apprehension, it was discovered that Holsey was in possession of sixty-one (61) grams of powder cocaine.

Gregory D. Holsey was charged with trafficking in cocaine and transported to the Putnam County Jail. He was booked into the jail without benefit of a bond.


 


This one will get the sandwiches, the others didn't take time to eat..  no bond.. nice to see..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: AZSunny on May 07, 2009, 10:25:33 PM
With the Cobra "interview", this is a very interesting statement.   I am wondering if he means "family" as in a real family, or if he is talking about a drug family...or a gang family, or what he is referring to here.  Any ideas?? Not a stranger involved in the abduction?  Then are they focusing, or considering the cousin of Misty's as still a possibility? Why is Ron and his family not out trying to find any information on who may be involved, whether they know them or not.    I will tell you that I think that Ron and Misty's family are all a worthless piece of s--t!! I would cross the street not to pass them.   I have never observed, a more self serving, lower class of people in my life.  Has nothing to do with money, just VALUES.

S: Do you believe Haleigh is alive?

C: YES

S: Is Haleigh being passed around through different people?

C: Yes family type people. I will put it this way, law enforcement does not think a stranger is involved in the abduction.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 07, 2009, 10:30:52 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Cummings_update_050709

Missing girl case not cold, investigators say

They wouldn't talk specifics about Misty Croslin, Haleigh's babysitter that night, and now her fathers wife.

They have interviewed Misty about ten times and will only say there's problems with her story.



 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I say pull her back in there!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 10:32:37 PM
With the Cobra "interview", this is a very interesting statement.   I am wondering if he means "family" as in a real family, or if he is talking about a drug family...or a gang family, or what he is referring to here.  Any ideas?? Not a stranger involved in the abduction?  Then are they focusing, or considering the cousin of Misty's as still a possibility? Why is Ron and his family not out trying to find any information on who may be involved, whether they know them or not.    I will tell you that I think that Ron and Misty's family are all a worthless piece of s--t!! I would cross the street not to pass them.   I have never observed, a more self serving, lower class of people in my life.  Has nothing to do with money, just VALUES.

S: Do you believe Haleigh is alive?

C: YES

S: Is Haleigh being passed around through different people?

C: Yes family type people. I will put it this way, law enforcement does not think a stranger is involved in the abduction.


I share your views, and agree...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 07, 2009, 10:35:41 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Cummings_update_050709

Missing girl case not cold, investigators say

They wouldn't talk specifics about Misty Croslin, Haleigh's babysitter that night, and now her fathers wife.

They have interviewed Misty about ten times and will only say there's problems with her story.



 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I say pull her back in there!!!
she would rather hide behind her lawyer now then to be questioned again, she is finding it hard to keep all her stories straight!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 10:36:42 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Cummings_update_050709

Missing girl case not cold, investigators say

They wouldn't talk specifics about Misty Croslin, Haleigh's babysitter that night, and now her fathers wife.

They have interviewed Misty about ten times and will only say there's problems with her story.



 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I say pull her back in there!!!

Won't do any good Maven, she is a typical teenager, who sets back clam's up, and shrugs her shoulders..   I remember those days well, Mr. No body and Mr. I don't know, lived and wreaked havoc in my home when my girls were growing up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 10:49:24 PM
Going back from the beginning when haleigh went missing... There must be clues we missed or over looked... ::MonkeyTongue:: i am going to look @ the 911 tape and interview again....

Interview with Ron and fibsty..

1. I notice Ron's neck looks stiff
2. Fisbty stated she got up to go to the bathroom and did not make it and then she went in to the living room and seen the light on...
3. Ron stated he pulled up and notice Fibsty was up and was wondering why/ I though Fibsty called him and also how did Mother Teresa get there so fast after Ron stated he got their @ 3:30am.. Mother Teresa arrived there alittle later.. It takes @ least 20 minutes to get to their home...
4. Ron states someone could of picked the lock? I guess that why LE took the door 1 week later after their stories and  the inconsistancies.. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q&feature=related


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 10:59:47 PM
Going back from the beginning when haleigh went missing... There must be clues we missed or over looked... ::MonkeyTongue:: i am going to look @ the 911 tape and interview again....

Interview with Ron and fibsty..

1. I notice Ron's neck looks stiff
2. Fisbty stated she got up to go to the bathroom and did not make it and then she went in to the living room and seen the light on...
3. Ron stated he pulled up and notice Fibsty was up and was wondering why/ I though Fibsty called him and also how did Mother Teresa get there so fast after Ron stated he got their @ 3:30am.. Mother Teresa arrived there alittle later.. It takes @ least 20 minutes to get to their home...
4. Ron states someone could of picked the lock? I guess that why LE took the door 1 week later after their stories and  the inconsistancies.. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q&feature=related

In another interview, they both claim the bedroom door was open that night and ron stated that the kitchen light was so bright you could see it from the bedroom.  LE took the screen door, the one that was blocked open..  The walk through of the house, and the solid back door is a trip.. She lets the screen door close and it slams shut, the solid door remains open as long as she is standing there, she moves towards the kitchen and the door automatically closes..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 07, 2009, 11:01:24 PM
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/Cummings_update_050709

Missing girl case not cold, investigators say

They wouldn't talk specifics about Misty Croslin, Haleigh's babysitter that night, and now her fathers wife.

They have interviewed Misty about ten times and will only say there's problems with her story.



 ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::

I say pull her back in there!!!

(http://media2.myfoxtampabay.com//photo/2009/02/16/HALEIGH_CUMMINGS_2_2009021609294760_320_240.JPG)
Cell phone camera photo of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, courtesy Misty Croslin.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 11:01:29 PM
Going back from the beginning when haleigh went missing... There must be clues we missed or over looked... ::MonkeyTongue:: i am going to look @ the 911 tape and interview again....

Interview with Ron and fibsty..

1. I notice Ron's neck looks stiff
2. Fisbty stated she got up to go to the bathroom and did not make it and then she went in to the living room and seen the light on...
3. Ron stated he pulled up and notice Fibsty was up and was wondering why/ I though Fibsty called him and also how did Mother Teresa get there so fast after Ron stated he got their @ 3:30am.. Mother Teresa arrived there alittle later.. It takes @ least 20 minutes to get to their home...
4. Ron states someone could of picked the lock? I guess that why LE took the door 1 week later after their stories and  the inconsistancies.. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q&feature=related

In another interview, they both claim the bedroom door was open that night and ron stated that the kitchen light was so bright you could see it from the bedroom.  LE took the screen door, the one that was blocked open..  The walk through of the house, and the solid back door is a trip.. She lets the screen door close and it slams shut, the solid door remains open as long as she is standing there, she moves towards the kitchen and the door automatically closes..

Yes, also there is a skylight and a full moon that night... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 11:04:51 PM
Going back from the beginning when haleigh went missing... There must be clues we missed or over looked... ::MonkeyTongue:: i am going to look @ the 911 tape and interview again....

Interview with Ron and fibsty..

1. I notice Ron's neck looks stiff
2. Fisbty stated she got up to go to the bathroom and did not make it and then she went in to the living room and seen the light on...
3. Ron stated he pulled up and notice Fibsty was up and was wondering why/ I though Fibsty called him and also how did Mother Teresa get there so fast after Ron stated he got their @ 3:30am.. Mother Teresa arrived there alittle later.. It takes @ least 20 minutes to get to their home...
4. Ron states someone could of picked the lock? I guess that why LE took the door 1 week later after their stories and  the inconsistancies.. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q&feature=related

In another interview, they both claim the bedroom door was open that night and ron stated that the kitchen light was so bright you could see it from the bedroom.  LE took the screen door, the one that was blocked open..  The walk through of the house, and the solid back door is a trip.. She lets the screen door close and it slams shut, the solid door remains open as long as she is standing there, she moves towards the kitchen and the door automatically closes..

Yes, also there is a skylight and a full moon that night... ::MonkeyTongue::

I was wondering when she first got, why didn't she notice the kitchen light on first thing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 11:11:59 PM
With the Cobra "interview", this is a very interesting statement.   I am wondering if he means "family" as in a real family, or if he is talking about a drug family...or a gang family, or what he is referring to here.  Any ideas?? Not a stranger involved in the abduction?  Then are they focusing, or considering the cousin of Misty's as still a possibility? Why is Ron and his family not out trying to find any information on who may be involved, whether they know them or not.    I will tell you that I think that Ron and Misty's family are all a worthless piece of s--t!! I would cross the street not to pass them.   I have never observed, a more self serving, lower class of people in my life.  Has nothing to do with money, just VALUES.

S: Do you believe Haleigh is alive?

C: YES

S: Is Haleigh being passed around through different people?

C: Yes family type people. I will put it this way, law enforcement does not think a stranger is involved in the abduction.


I share your views, and agree...

My theory if it was a family abduction... ::MonkeyTongue::

Haleigh was hurt that evening in the care of Fibsty whether it was because Haleigh peed the bed or did not want to go to bed.. Haleigh was taken away by the Cummings family until Haleigh injuries cleared up.. Ron would of had to answer questions from the school, Crystal , DCF and also could lose both children.. How still have questions going through my head ..When did Mother Teresa arrive @ the home.. Was she there earlier and left to make it look as though she just arrived that night after the police arrived...
Now that immunity is offered will Haleigh be brought home.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 11:19:33 PM
Going back from the beginning when haleigh went missing... There must be clues we missed or over looked... ::MonkeyTongue:: i am going to look @ the 911 tape and interview again....

Interview with Ron and fibsty..

1. I notice Ron's neck looks stiff
2. Fisbty stated she got up to go to the bathroom and did not make it and then she went in to the living room and seen the light on...
3. Ron stated he pulled up and notice Fibsty was up and was wondering why/ I though Fibsty called him and also how did Mother Teresa get there so fast after Ron stated he got their @ 3:30am.. Mother Teresa arrived there alittle later.. It takes @ least 20 minutes to get to their home...
4. Ron states someone could of picked the lock? I guess that why LE took the door 1 week later after their stories and  the inconsistancies.. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q&feature=related

In another interview, they both claim the bedroom door was open that night and ron stated that the kitchen light was so bright you could see it from the bedroom.  LE took the screen door, the one that was blocked open..  The walk through of the house, and the solid back door is a trip.. She lets the screen door close and it slams shut, the solid door remains open as long as she is standing there, she moves towards the kitchen and the door automatically closes..

Yes, also there is a skylight and a full moon that night... ::MonkeyTongue::

I was wondering when she first got, why didn't she notice the kitchen light on first thing.

Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 07, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
Going back from the beginning when haleigh went missing... There must be clues we missed or over looked... ::MonkeyTongue:: i am going to look @ the 911 tape and interview again....

Interview with Ron and fibsty..

1. I notice Ron's neck looks stiff
2. Fisbty stated she got up to go to the bathroom and did not make it and then she went in to the living room and seen the light on...
3. Ron stated he pulled up and notice Fibsty was up and was wondering why/ I though Fibsty called him and also how did Mother Teresa get there so fast after Ron stated he got their @ 3:30am.. Mother Teresa arrived there alittle later.. It takes @ least 20 minutes to get to their home...
4. Ron states someone could of picked the lock? I guess that why LE took the door 1 week later after their stories and  the inconsistancies.. ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMk536XfEG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PlszjkZ5Q&feature=related

In another interview, they both claim the bedroom door was open that night and ron stated that the kitchen light was so bright you could see it from the bedroom.  LE took the screen door, the one that was blocked open..  The walk through of the house, and the solid back door is a trip.. She lets the screen door close and it slams shut, the solid door remains open as long as she is standing there, she moves towards the kitchen and the door automatically closes..

Yes, also there is a skylight and a full moon that night... ::MonkeyTongue::

I was wondering when she first got, why didn't she notice the kitchen light on first thing.

Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...

I think, that with their small amount of intelligence, they made up a story.. that short elevator had the largest script, this was to cover the fact.. that someone came into the house and Haleigh left with them.  This was suppose to be part of their alibi..  Short elevator just can't stick to the story, rons was easier.. "I was at work".  When ask why short  elevators story is all over the map, he stated, he didn't know he hadn't talk to her about it..  my ears peaked like spook at that comment, and wondered.. Fool, you didn't didn't take time to ask???  why didn't you demand, and since he knocks her around anyway, that would be a prime reason to knock her teeth out..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 11:39:12 PM
snipped from melee...

I think, that with their small amount of intelligence, they made up a story.. that short elevator had the largest script, this was to cover the fact.. that someone came into the house and Haleigh left with them.  This was suppose to be part of their alibi..  Short elevator just can't stick to the story, rons was easier.. "I was at work".  When ask why short  elevators story is all over the map, he stated, he didn't know he hadn't talk to her about it..  my ears peaked like spook at that comment, and wondered.. Fool, you didn't didn't take time to ask???  why didn't you demand, and since he knocks her around anyway, that would be a prime reason to knock her teeth out..

Yes I agree.. If I came home i would be screaming and yelling where is my daughter.. What happened.. i probably would of beat the crap out of her...I would want to know minute by minute what happened that day.. With all the inconsistancies why did he even marry her??? Its all not adding up...JMO ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 07, 2009, 11:43:05 PM
Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...

OR........ was it 4 inches  ::MonkeyTongue::    ::MonkeyRoll::

Someone needs to get the truth outta that girl!!! and ..... I'm not against waterboarding  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: AZSunny on May 07, 2009, 11:46:07 PM
Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...

OR........ was it 4 inches  ::MonkeyTongue::    ::MonkeyRoll::

Someone needs to get the truth outta that girl!!! and ..... I'm not against waterboarding  ::MonkeyDevil::

I will hold her head for you.  OK? ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 11:48:06 PM
Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...

OR........ was it 4 inches  ::MonkeyTongue::    ::MonkeyRoll::

Someone needs to get the truth outta that girl!!! and ..... I'm not against waterboarding  ::MonkeyDevil::


 ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 07, 2009, 11:53:08 PM
Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...

OR........ was it 4 inches  ::MonkeyTongue::    ::MonkeyRoll::

Someone needs to get the truth outta that girl!!! and ..... I'm not against waterboarding  ::MonkeyDevil::

I will hold her head for you.  OK? ::MonkeyAngel::

I will fill the keg of water up for you...  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 12:04:08 AM
Also the way the beds are situated why didnt Fibsty notice Haleigh was not in her bed.. the bed is 4ft from their bed.. The first think you would see when she got up on the bed would be Haleighs bed...

OR........ was it 4 inches  ::MonkeyTongue::    ::MonkeyRoll::

Someone needs to get the truth outta that girl!!! and ..... I'm not against waterboarding  ::MonkeyDevil::

I will hold her head for you.  OK? ::MonkeyAngel::

I will fill the keg of water up for you...  ::MonkeyWink::

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  you monkeys are great!! ........what will I do? .......... I'll pour the keg on her.  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 08, 2009, 12:08:03 AM
NG.. interview he knew something was wrong because when he pulled up Fibsty was @ the door... They we all sleeping in the same bed.... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGcVo1DfNlg


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 08, 2009, 12:26:17 AM
Also in that article it said that Ronald pulled up to the place where Haleigh came up missing to see if it had been rented yet, hmmmm    why would he do that, is he afraid the new tenents might find something?   there has to be a reason, if he wanted to know if it had been rented all he had to do was call the realtor, hmmmm    the clock is ticking for him I think.....tick   tick  tick....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 01:28:14 AM
Also in that article it said that Ronald pulled up to the place where Haleigh came up missing to see if it had been rented yet, hmmmm    why would he do that, is he afraid the new tenents might find something?   there has to be a reason, if he wanted to know if it had been rented all he had to do was call the realtor, hmmmm    the clock is ticking for him I think.....tick   tick  tick....

good question HH, hopefully LE has found everything there is to be found there.  Maybe us monkeys can pool some money and rent that place for a month  ::MonkeyTongue:: ............Brandi ... bring your notebook   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 08, 2009, 01:36:01 AM
Also in that article it said that Ronald pulled up to the place where Haleigh came up missing to see if it had been rented yet, hmmmm    why would he do that, is he afraid the new tenents might find something?   there has to be a reason, if he wanted to know if it had been rented all he had to do was call the realtor, hmmmm    the clock is ticking for him I think.....tick   tick  tick....

I just saw this exact same post on insessions forum. Do you post there also?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 01:58:38 AM
Also in that article it said that Ronald pulled up to the place where Haleigh came up missing to see if it had been rented yet, hmmmm    why would he do that, is he afraid the new tenents might find something?   there has to be a reason, if he wanted to know if it had been rented all he had to do was call the realtor, hmmmm    the clock is ticking for him I think.....tick   tick  tick....

I just saw this exact same post on insessions forum. Do you post there also?

I haven't been to IS in a while, ....... too much back and forth carp, plus ya can't say "Nancy Grace is an idiot"   ::MonkeyTongue::  without getting a LIFETIME BAN!  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: monkeymike on May 08, 2009, 02:04:29 AM
Ron pulling up to 202 Green Lane or into the drive, he may be on a lease that someone is trying to hold him to in this economy. If not rented they should be liable for the rent in my town. Most people help the landlord rent them. Not a fan of RC, just a maybe it could be to check if the mobile had been rented after an invoice or statement from the landlords. Nite. xxxooo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 02:08:21 AM
Ron pulling up to 202 Green Lane or into the drive, he may be on a lease that someone is trying to hold him to in this economy. If not rented they should be liable for the rent in my town. Most people help the landlord rent them. Not a fan of RC, just a maybe it could be to check if the mobile had been rented after an invoice or statement from the landlords. Nite. xxxooo

good point, I hadn't thought of that. I am not a fan of ANY of them ........ cept Haleigh, and JR of course  ::MonkeyAngel::

Prayers for Haleigh, may she be found safe SOON!!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 02:14:56 AM
Hope this guy is in long enough for a sammich:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753921&IMG=58526


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 08, 2009, 02:52:39 AM
Hey does anybody know if they did in fact make the movie Tarzan on a small island somewhere around Satsuma, I was just wondering if it was true and just where it is located as far as distance to where the St, Johns river came up to Ronald house..........    Yes, I heard this on Topix and was just wondering if anybody knows???

 So far I found that Tarzan's secret treasure was filmed in two Florida locations(Silver springs and Wakulla springs) as well as in Cali in 1941

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034266/locations

If I find more I'll let you know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 08, 2009, 03:01:05 AM
Silver Springs is probably what your reading about, I just looked at a google map and it's just across the Ocala National Forest from Satsuma, Doesn't appear to be far and they may have been closer to Satsuma and used the Name of Silver Springs because it's a larger, more popular, or more well know city. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 08, 2009, 03:05:06 AM
There is a list of other movies that were probably filmed in the same area here

http://www.imdb.com/List?endings=on&&locations=Silver%20Springs%20-%205656%20E.%20Silver%20Springs%20Boulevard,%20Ocala,%20Florida,%20USA&&heading=18;with+locations+including;Silver%20Springs%20-%205656%20E.%20Silver%20Springs%20Boulevard,%20Ocala,%20Florida,%20USA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 03:13:31 AM
Hey does anybody know if they did in fact make the movie Tarzan on a small island somewhere around Satsuma, I was just wondering if it was true and just where it is located as far as distance to where the St, Johns river came up to Ronald house..........    Yes, I heard this on Topix and was just wondering if anybody knows???

 So far I found that Tarzan's secret treasure was filmed in two Florida locations(Silver springs and Wakulla springs) as well as in Cali in 1941

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034266/locations

If I find more I'll let you know.


Wakulla Springs is ~212 miles away from Satsuma, near Tallahassee.
Silver Springs is ~92 miles away from Satsuma, near Ocala.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 08, 2009, 03:44:34 AM
Ok HH, Theres something I find interesting about that Tarzan thing, though I'm sure there's nothing to it since it was filmed around 70 years ago, but I still thought I'd share it with yall.  According to IMDB.com(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032007/) The Tarzan movie "Tarzan finds a son!" was filmed in Crystal springs Fl, Ocala Fl, Silver springs Fl and in a studio in Cali. And do you know who played Boy, Tarzans son?  Johnny Sheffield.  I'm pretty sure he's not the same one, but it's interesting all the same to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 08, 2009, 04:15:38 AM
Was looking on a map for the Island that get r dumb was talking about and decided to google putnam county Fl and saw a link to a wiki page about the Ocala National Forest and found it to be a interesting read.  It said that millions visit the forest anually and then went on to say that the United States Navy has a Bombing Range there.  Oh it also said there is a ghost town in the forest called Kerr city.  ::MonkeyEek::

Here's the link if yall monkeys want to read more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocala_National_Forest  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 04:58:40 AM
Was looking on a map for the Island that get r dumb was talking about and decided to google putnam county Fl and saw a link to a wiki page about the Ocala National Forest and found it to be a interesting read.  It said that millions visit the forest anually and then went on to say that the United States Navy has a Bombing Range there.  Oh it also said there is a ghost town in the forest called Kerr city.  ::MonkeyEek::

Here's the link if yall monkeys want to read more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocala_National_Forest  


just got home from work.  like the new cage :)
ok, what's this about immunity?  what did I miss?
Get R dumb said it was an island that is illegal to go on.  It's shut down?  You can get to it, but no can be out there.  something like that.  i worked too hard tonight.  whew.
see you all in the morning ;)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 06:03:56 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing57.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 08, 2009, 07:02:23 AM
snipped from melee...

I think, that with their small amount of intelligence, they made up a story.. that short elevator had the largest script, this was to cover the fact.. that someone came into the house and Haleigh left with them.  This was suppose to be part of their alibi..  Short elevator just can't stick to the story, rons was easier.. "I was at work".  When ask why short  elevators story is all over the map, he stated, he didn't know he hadn't talk to her about it..  my ears peaked like spook at that comment, and wondered.. Fool, you didn't didn't take time to ask???  why didn't you demand, and since he knocks her around anyway, that would be a prime reason to knock her teeth out..

Yes I agree.. If I came home i would be screaming and yelling where is my daughter.. What happened.. i probably would of beat the crap out of her...I would want to know minute by minute what happened that day.. With all the inconsistancies why did he even marry her??? Its all not adding up...JMO ::MonkeyTongue::

One reason I though of, they are into so much muck, drugs, accused of robbing a drug dealer, her party times, knowledge of the little king pin underworld of that area, fearing revenge..  Haleigh's disappearance compounded all of the issues.  ron's instinct was that someone broke into the house and took Haleigh and it was revenge.. I would like to hear him give a complete detailed statement on why would anyone want to revenge him??  And why was that back door open a setup with him and short elevator?  Why he didn't really demand,  or maybe he did and they are covering that up... So many  lies and so many different issues.  This drug, and prostitution and domestic, and charecters involved in this mess it takes on a totally different world and absolutely clouds any ability to look for Haleigh in a direction that she actually may be, and the reason why she is in that direction and was taken.  With ron and short elevator already guilty of all the grap they are into, yea.. they have things to hide.. scratching off layer by layer and the roaches keep coming out.  Problem is, instead of being able to look at a Missing Child Issue with Little Haleigh,  LE, Cobra and anyone else involved are out chasing the roaches running all over the place.  They claimed that Crystal filing for custody, caused a major problem with the search for Haleigh..  After what we have seen so far with the world of ron and short elevator.. no one can doubt that something could or would happen to the children, lost in the midst..  So, why is it impossible for the thought that Crystal already knew things, and then more things came out.. And she realized, that little Ron had to be gotten out of there fast..  That's the reason for the Custody.  Hey, if I were her, I would have done the same thing.. Can't blame her for not wanting her son being taken care of by short elevator anymore.. a druggy.. who we all know the truth about now.. What if Crystal learned about it right after or Before Haleigh went missing??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 07:13:57 AM
Thats right could have been a rumor, who knows, some can make up rumors and it is fine and some can just give opinions and get called out on them everytme, Its getting hard to keep up with what has actually happened and what has just been said by someone, Thats why I wish LE would give a press conference and put all the rumors V/s the truth out there for everyone to see!!!!!

I think the rumors vs the truth is what is keeping LE mummmmm.  Releasing info would definitely put a hamper/glitch into this investigation.  What we call rumor, possibly LE has it down as TRUE, and these are the curves that may lead to Haleigh.

I know patience is a virtue but like everyone else....my patience is running on SLOW SPEED.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 08, 2009, 07:29:17 AM
Thats right could have been a rumor, who knows, some can make up rumors and it is fine and some can just give opinions and get called out on them everytme, Its getting hard to keep up with what has actually happened and what has just been said by someone, Thats why I wish LE would give a press conference and put all the rumors V/s the truth out there for everyone to see!!!!!

I think the rumors vs the truth is what is keeping LE mummmmm.  Releasing info would definitely put a hamper/glitch into this investigation.  What we call rumor, possibly LE has it down as TRUE, and these are the curves that may lead to Haleigh.

I know patience is a virtue but like everyone else....my patience is running on SLOW SPEED.

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/m0m2will/good%20morning/coffee.jpg)



Good morning Grama, see you have a cup of good hot coffee going here...... time for my second cup..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: slowsouthernrain on May 08, 2009, 07:53:25 AM
Good morning monkey friends.  We all have heard the various stories Misty has given about that morning Haleigh went missing.  With this in mind, I think the answers are right there with her, or her and Ronald. There would be no other reason for for more than just the truth and the truth does not change.  So I tend to think cover up. Maybe I need more coffee before I start trying to post.   ::MonkeyConfused::   coffee all around 
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Red on May 08, 2009, 07:53:30 AM
Daily Commentary - Friday, May 8th, 2009 - A Police Officer’s Prayer for Dana’s Dad
 
Today’s commentary is dedicated to Dana’s father, who passed away yesterday.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/08/daily-commentary-friday-may-8th-2009-a-police-officer%e2%80%99s-prayer-for-danas-dad/

Dana, we at SM are all saddened by your loss. Our hearts and prayers are with you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 08:28:34 AM
Hey does anybody know if they did in fact make the movie Tarzan on a small island somewhere around Satsuma, I was just wondering if it was true and just where it is located as far as distance to where the St, Johns river came up to Ronald house..........    Yes, I heard this on Topix and was just wondering if anybody knows???

good morning monkeys,,,Tarzan, was filmed at the Silver Springs attraction in Ocala!
I met Johnny Weismuller when I was a kid, as I loved the show. There are still some monkeys that swing free there in the area, left over from the 60's filming of the show.

silver Springs would be south of Satsuma...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 08:53:44 AM
Good morning Grama, see you have a cup of good hot coffee going here...... time for my second cup..

Thanks mlee...Good Morning to you as well and all of the other Monkey Sleuthers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 08:57:28 AM
more coffee please...oh please
mlee, I too would have gone for my son.  Bad timing, maybe, but just the same, if you've already lost one of my children, I promise I cant just sit here and wait for something to happen to the other one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 09:04:27 AM
Was looking on a map for the Island that get r dumb was talking about and decided to google putnam county Fl and saw a link to a wiki page about the Ocala National Forest and found it to be a interesting read.  It said that millions visit the forest anually and then went on to say that the United States Navy has a Bombing Range there.  Oh it also said there is a ghost town in the forest called Kerr city.  ::MonkeyEek::

Here's the link if yall monkeys want to read more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocala_National_Forest  


just got home from work.  like the new cage :)
ok, what's this about immunity?  what did I miss?
Get R dumb said it was an island that is illegal to go on.  It's shut down?  You can get to it, but no can be out there.  something like that.  i worked too hard tonight.  whew.
see you all in the morning ;)

hey thunderbunny, what island have I missed??  And I can vouch for the military using the ocala forest for bombing purposes. My 93 yr old aunt still lives there in that forest , and it is all quiet there, like you can hear a pin drop, then all of a sudden those jet fighters come over the tree tops, then you hear the BOOM !! I can tell ya, it will scare the tar out of you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 09:10:53 AM
Good morning Grama, see you have a cup of good hot coffee going here...... time for my second cup..

Thanks mlee...Good Morning to you as well and all of the other Monkey Sleuthers.

good morning GramaMonkey


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 09:11:30 AM
I'll go see if I can find the post he wrote about it. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 09:17:43 AM
I'll go see if I can find the post he wrote about it. 

hey thanks Thunder, your  a peach !!  and my manners,
good morning to the quiet starcat as well !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 09:33:21 AM
Good morning Grama, see you have a cup of good hot coffee going here...... time for my second cup..

Thanks mlee...Good Morning to you as well and all of the other Monkey Sleuthers.

good morning GramaMonkey

Good Morning as well to you ...mio.  :smt006


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 08, 2009, 09:36:36 AM
gm i know i have been quite cause i am just so sad about this whole case i just hate posting on rumors and since we don't hear anything anymore i feel like just sitting in the corner and reading sorry ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 09:48:15 AM
I'll go see if I can find the post he wrote about it. 

hey thanks Thunder, your  a peach !!  and my manners,
good morning to the quiet starcat as well !

went thru pages and pages of posts and couldn't find it, but I WILL.  gotta take little girl to school, and try to wake up. woman cannot function well on four hours of sleep a night!  P.S.  LOVE the new picture!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 09:49:47 AM
gm i know i have been quite cause i am just so sad about this whole case i just hate posting on rumors and since we don't hear anything anymore i feel like just sitting in the corner and reading sorry ::MonkeyAngel::

I think we all feel the same way starcat...hard to have a discussion when there is really nothing new...except rumors.  But....we just keep pluggin' away, brining up prior posts and discussing them further.  Good to see new members as they also contribute good evaluations to prior posts and see things in a different perspective.

 ::MonkeyAngel::  Haleigh



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2009, 09:51:59 AM
Daily Commentary - Friday, May 8th, 2009 - A Police Officer’s Prayer for Dana’s Dad
 
Today’s commentary is dedicated to Dana’s father, who passed away yesterday.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/05/08/daily-commentary-friday-may-8th-2009-a-police-officer%e2%80%99s-prayer-for-danas-dad/

Dana, we at SM are all saddened by your loss. Our hearts and prayers are with you.
Dana, my prayers and thoughts are with you and your family during this traumatic time, God bless.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 09:54:09 AM
FOUND IT!!  I asked if I could cross post, and he hasn't answered.  Hope I'm not committing some grave internet error here.  ;)

he wrote:
"Judged:
 1
in the late 60's early 70's the show tarzan was filmed in satsuma..the little island is just out about 25yrds from land.that would be a great place to hide a body. noone is alowed on the island. so im woundering if they ever searched that island.funny how i just remembered that was there.then again they could have her stashed out there since people dont go out there... just a thought. "

11th post down.  http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1477?threadid=52VIGA63OER7TOO7


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 09:59:10 AM
I'll go see if I can find the post he wrote about it. 

hey thanks Thunder, your  a peach !!  and my manners,
good morning to the quiet starcat as well !

went thru pages and pages of posts and couldn't find it, but I WILL.  gotta take little girl to school, and try to wake up. woman cannot function well on four hours of sleep a night!  P.S.  LOVE the new picture!

thank you so much for your time.. I too will try and go back to find it as well.
Thanks about pic, lol, hm, I have changed it three times already this morning,so not sure which one you liked..
tomorrow is my b day, so, I am sort of in a change mode I guess.

And starcat, I admire those greatly who do not speak unless there is something relevant to say. I dont have anything special to say today, but, it feels good to connect with those of like minds.  mio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
FOUND IT!!  I asked if I could cross post, and he hasn't answered.  Hope I'm not committing some grave internet error here.  ;)

he wrote:
"Judged:
 1
in the late 60's early 70's the show tarzan was filmed in satsuma..the little island is just out about 25yrds from land.that would be a great place to hide a body. noone is alowed on the island. so im woundering if they ever searched that island.funny how i just remembered that was there.then again they could have her stashed out there since people dont go out there... just a thought. "

11th post down.  http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1477?threadid=52VIGA63OER7TOO7
thanks for finding this for me,,,,
interesting for sure.. I am now lookijng to see where this island is ....
I know the 7 sisters islands are there, and wonder if this is what the poster was refering to..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 08, 2009, 11:12:54 AM
Hope this guy is in long enough for a sammich:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753921&IMG=58526
Barely  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 12:14:16 PM
Hope this guy is in long enough for a sammich:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753921&IMG=58526
Barely  ::MonkeyNoNo::


WTH? WTH? WTH? WTH? WTH?
HOW could there be NO BOND AMOUNT?  Yet he's out.  I took ten minutes yesterday and asked my governer, senators and the general attorney to make stricter laws for these people.  I hope someone, somewhere will realize our children are hurting.  I know our jails are full of drug dealers and possessions and manufacturers, but these that hurt children are the ones that need to be in jail.  I say FINE THE DEALERS OUT THE WAZOO (if we have to make space) if it means putting people away that hurts children. THIS IS CRAZY!  Whatever might have happened to that child, whatever this clown did to this child, they only kept him in jail long enough to p*ss him off!!!!!!!  If I were the child, I'd be scared to death of him coming home.  This alone is enough to make me want to call this jail and ask them just what the hell they're doing in Putnam County!!  <GROWL>


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Searching on May 08, 2009, 12:35:36 PM
Hope this guy is in long enough for a sammich:
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753921&IMG=58526
Barely  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Related maybe? and why transfer to county court..hmmm wonder if that is the court that the circle goes thru.. maybe county court needs to be looked at.

 Details:
UCN: 542009CF000356XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-03-02   Judge: TERRY J LARUE    
Defense Atty:

Defendant
WALKER, VANESSA NICOLE
Alias
MASON, VANESSA NICOLE

Date   #   Docket Description
2009-03-02   1   ARREST REPORT - CCPD OFF/MYERS (AR 2/28/09)
2009-03-02   1   BOOKING NUMBER: 09-0861
2009-03-02   1   STRONG ARM ROBBERY
2009-03-02   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 3/1/09
2009-03-02   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2009-03-02   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2009-03-02   2   $2504.00 SECURED BOND SET
2009-03-02   3   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2009-03-02   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2009-04-28   5   MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT
2009-05-06   6   ORDER TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Searching on May 08, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
 Details:
UCN: 542009MM000743XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-03-02   Judge: PETER T MILLER    
Defense Atty:

Defendant
PREVATT, KRISTINA RENEE
Alias
PREVATT, CHRISTINA

Date   #   Docket Description
2009-03-02   1   COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 02-28-09
2009-03-02   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2009-03-02   1   TRESPASS OCCUPIED STRUCTURE
2009-03-11   2   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL CTS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Searching on May 08, 2009, 12:46:22 PM
I keep getting bumped off when I post..ugg

Details:
UCN: 542009CO000119XXAXCX
File Date: 2009-05-05   Judge: JAMES L PADGETT    
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, LINDSY K
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2009-05-05   1   LOCAL ORD CIT #09-3893 (05/02/09) PCSO/C MANNING
2009-05-05   1   PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE (BARKING)
2009-05-05   1   $57.00 FINE DUE 06/02/2009
2009-05-05   2   INCIDENT REPORT


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2009, 12:50:30 PM
Here's a new article   http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/08/news/news02.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 08, 2009, 12:51:09 PM
Also in that article it said that Ronald pulled up to the place where Haleigh came up missing to see if it had been rented yet, hmmmm    why would he do that, is he afraid the new tenents might find something?   there has to be a reason, if he wanted to know if it had been rented all he had to do was call the realtor, hmmmm    the clock is ticking for him I think.....tick   tick  tick....

I just saw this exact same post on insessions forum. Do you post there also?
Thanks everybody that tried to find out about the island I asked about........NO Ive never been to insessions, I dont even know where that is, so NO I dont...............


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2009, 03:04:53 PM
Also in that article it said that Ronald pulled up to the place where Haleigh came up missing to see if it had been rented yet, hmmmm    why would he do that, is he afraid the new tenents might find something?   there has to be a reason, if he wanted to know if it had been rented all he had to do was call the realtor, hmmmm    the clock is ticking for him I think.....tick   tick  tick....

I just saw this exact same post on insessions forum. Do you post there also?
Thanks everybody that tried to find out about the island I asked about........NO Ive never been to insessions, I dont even know where that is, so NO I dont...............

HH, probably someone from insessions reads over here, liked your post, and decided to use it, but it's not nice to use it as their own words.  I've seen this happen elsewhere with various posts by monkeys, and think sharing is fine as long as there is credit given where due.  IMO



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 03:05:56 PM
Here's a new article   http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/08/news/news02.txt

Thank you for this, no rose!

DCF still investigating Cummings case

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Friday, May 8, 2009 12:34 AM EDT
The state Department of Children and Families continues to review abuse allegations made by the mother of Haleigh Cummings regarding the status of Haleigh's younger brother, Ronald Cummings Jr., who lives with his father.

"The investigation is still going on," John Harrell, spokesman for the DCF in Jacksonville, said. "We have been given information and we are continuing to investigate."

Ronald Junior lives at his great-grandmother's house in Welaka with his father, Ronald Cummings, and stepmother, Misty Croslin, after his 5-year-old sister vanished from their South Putnam home in February.

Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, retained Fort Lauderdale attorney Kim Picazio to help with the news media shortly after her daughter's disappearance, and Picazio has continued to represent her in the DCF investigation.

"It's not about Crystal, it's about the state of Florida looking into if Ronald is a fit parent and whether or not Junior is in a safe home," Picazio said. "And yes, they are still evaluating that."

Harrell said that though the investigation is continuing, the DCF would not remove any child from a home unless they were in danger.

"The department's first priority is child safety," Harrell said. "In any situation we would not allow a child to remain in a home if they were in danger, but that has to be determined."

Attorneys for Ronald Cummings, Greg Kimball and T. Jerry Snider, deny abuse occurred and say the child has a stable family environment at the grandmother's home.

"Right now, Ronald and Misty are living with Ronald's grandmother, who is providing a stable home, and the DCF is fine with that," Snider said.

Cummings continues to look for work after losing his job as a crane operator, Kimball said, adding he and his law partner anticipate a child-custody dispute would be initiated by Sheffeld if the state doesn't act.

"It's still very possible that they will go to the courts now," Snider said.

Picazio, Kimball and Snider all said they were working "pro bono" or without charge.

Picazio declined to say whether a custody case would be filed in court.

Cummings's attorneys said that if the case did go to court, DCF information would be considered as evidence, but both sides would have to provide witnesses.

"The threshold is not only the best interest of the child, but when you bring that petition you have to allege that there has been a substantial change in circumstances," Snider said.

Meanwhile, authorities say the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance is continuing.

Haleigh was reported missing from her Satsuma home at 3 a.m. on Feb. 10. Despite a massive search and criminal investigation, no trace of the blond-haired kindergartener has been found.

Capt. Dick Schauland, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said Thursday detectives are still working the case.

"There have been more than 4,000 tips reported, and they are still following up on tips," Schauland said. "It's still going."


kchambers@palatkadailynews.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 08, 2009, 03:50:29 PM
snip from Brandi's post: "There have been more than 4,000 tips reported, and they are still following up on tips," Schauland said. "It's still going."


that is good to hear! at least they are still following clues and tips..
God Bless Haleigh and hope that she is found today!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 04:05:01 PM
Not sure id this has been posted yet haven't had time to go back and read yet, if it has sorry for the repeat

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

VIDEO: TJ Hart Speaks With PCSO Capt. Dick Schauland as Day 90 of Haleigh's Disappearance Looms


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 08, 2009, 04:07:35 PM
Mio...happy birthday tomorrow! wouldn't it be awesome if Haleigh was found in time for your birthday...let's all hope for it!! Or Mother's Day would be wonderful!
going to get some sweet tea at McDonalds soon...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 08, 2009, 04:08:42 PM
1st degree murder and other charges . Less than an hour and a half  ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750899&IMG=29885


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 08, 2009, 04:10:01 PM
1st degree murder and other charges . Less than an hour and a half  ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750899&IMG=29885

Lordy...who did he murder?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 08, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
1st degree murder and other charges . Less than an hour and a half  ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750899&IMG=29885

Lordy...who did he murder?

and how does one get out of jail that fast on first degree murder charges???? WTH is going on down there?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 04:17:23 PM
1st degree murder and other charges . Less than an hour and a half  ::MonkeyNoNo::
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750899&IMG=29885

Lordy...who did he murder?

http://news.jacksonville.com/justin/2008/12/01/two-men-arrested-in-putnam-slaying-third-sought/

Update: 3 men arrested in Putnam slaying of 65-year-old

Palatka residents Johnny Lutrell Jones, Lamont Antonio Riley, and Charles Edward Coring III, all 24, were charged with murder in the death of 65-year-old Cecil L. Mills, of Pomona Park, said Maj. Keith Riddick of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.

Mills was found dead in the front yard of the daughter’s home in Pomona Park. Investigators believe he was shot while interrupting a burglary.

snip


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 04:22:25 PM
Not sure id this has been posted yet haven't had time to go back and read yet, if it has sorry for the repeat

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

VIDEO: TJ Hart Speaks With PCSO Capt. Dick Schauland as Day 90 of Haleigh's Disappearance Looms

Thanks for posting this, Maven.

I pasted from the site, typos and spelling errors in tact.

REPORTER'S NOTES 5/8/2009

The tone at the Putnam County Sheriff's Office today appears to be upbeat and as determined to find 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings today as it was February 10, 2009 when she was abducted from her Satsuma, FL home in the middle of the night.

I spoke with Lt. Johnny Greenwood at length this morning to see where the investigation is at this point. The quick answer is that they have received over 4,000 leads and have interviewed over 300 people so far.

One thing I discovered today is that most of the men and women investigating the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings are parents, too.  One could easily believe that beyond their jobs, they might also be invested in this case on somewhat of a personal level.

Lt. Johnny Greewood tells me the happiest day will come when he can call a press conference and announce that Haleigh has been returned safe and sound. But until then, Greenwood says the investigators on the case remain working at the same level of intensity as the day the little girl was reported missing.

Greenwood contends that until proven otherwise, it is the department's belief that Haleigh is still alive.

I asked Greenwood if the case was taking its toll on the investigators. He simply resonded, "No one is complaining."

I asked Lt. Greenwood more about the night Haleigh vanished when she was reportedly being watched by her now-stepmother, Misty Cummings.  Greenwood didn't have much to add other than the fact that Misty has now been questioned at least ten times by investogators and her timeline still remains inconsistent.

What exactly is the reason for the upbeat tone at the Putnam County Sheriff's Office today is anybody's guess. Hopefuly they are closing in Haleigh's whereabouts and narrowing down the suspects in the case.


DCF INVESTIGATION CONTINUES IN THE CUMMINGS CASE

The Florida Department of Children and Families continues to investigate abuse allegations made by Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh Cummings regarding the status of Haleigh's younger brother, Ronald Cummings Jr., who lives with his father.

DCF spokesman John Harrel says the agency has been given information and they are continuing to investigate.

Ronald Junior lives at his great-grandmother's house in Welaka with his father, Ronald Cummings, and stepmother, Misty Croslin, after his 5-year-old sister vanished from their South Putnam home in February.

Crystal Sheffield retained South Florida attorney Kim Picazio to help with the news media shortly after her daughter's disappearance, and Picazio has continued to represent her in the DCF investigation.

Harrell said that even though the investigation is ongoing, DCF would not remove any child from a home unless they were in danger.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Dolce on May 08, 2009, 04:46:53 PM
Sorry to bust in here, but I know we share some of the same posters over in the Caylee thread.

Please take a moment of time..

Be heard!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12

DO NOT ALLOW THE ANTHONYS TO LIE AGAIN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. 
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!

Thanks!
Dolce


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: momoftwins on May 08, 2009, 04:59:38 PM
They're going to talk about Haleigh on HLN today.  It comes on @ 5p.m. here. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
They're going to talk about Haleigh on HLN today.  It comes on @ 5p.m. here. ::MonkeyAngel::
Thanks  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 05:03:49 PM
They're going to talk about Haleigh on HLN today.  It comes on @ 5p.m. here. ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks, momoftwins.

I turned it on and will watch.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 08, 2009, 05:08:26 PM
Sorry to bust in here, but I know we share some of the same posters over in the Caylee thread.

Please take a moment of time..

Be heard!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12

DO NOT ALLOW THE ANTHONYS TO LIE AGAIN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. 
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!

Thanks!
Dolce


Thanks Dolce!  Done!!!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 08, 2009, 05:08:45 PM
durn ! time to tend the chicken.s  . Please post highlights .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 05:11:51 PM
durn ! time to tend the chicken.s  . Please post highlights .

HLN has been covering the Drew Peterson ordeal up until now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 05:35:57 PM
On HLN:

Mike Brooks says sheriff's office has been doing a good job. He thinks they still may find her alive. He says LE is smart in not releasing info. Says LE is trying to get to the bottom f Misty's inconsistencies.

TJ Hart just reiterated his article. That LE is working the case with vigor still.

Nothing we monkeys do not know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 05:42:46 PM
Kim Picazio on the phone, says they are passing on leads to LE.

Mike Brooks says you need probable cause to arrest Misty, and that maybe they (LE) are just waiting it out to see what happens. Again, nothing we have not discussed here.

HLN just saying the case is not cold and they will continue to follow the case.







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 05:46:54 PM
Thanks Brandi!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 05:51:50 PM
Thanks Brandi!

whew!

There is someone out there.

Felt like I was posting to myself LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 08, 2009, 06:34:06 PM
Thank-you Brandi...
I just got in from work and was sick I had missed HLN...am so happy to hear they are still working hard on this case, it's just difficult for everyone not knowing anything and LE not giving out information.  Whatever they are doing, I hope it pays off soon! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 08, 2009, 06:52:42 PM
Sorry to bust in here, but I know we share some of the same posters over in the Caylee thread.

Please take a moment of time..

Be heard!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12

DO NOT ALLOW THE ANTHONYS TO LIE AGAIN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. 
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!

Thanks!
Dolce


Thank you Dolce.. Done ;>)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 08, 2009, 07:08:45 PM
Thanks Brandi!

whew!

There is someone out there.

Felt like I was posting to myself LOL

I'm here Brandi, hanging on to every word because I only have xm in the car and do not have cable.  Thank you for telling us what they were saying  :)  (((((YOU)))))


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 08, 2009, 07:24:19 PM
Sorry to bust in here, but I know we share some of the same posters over in the Caylee thread.

Please take a moment of time..

Be heard!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12

DO NOT ALLOW THE ANTHONYS TO LIE AGAIN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. 
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!

Thanks!
Dolce


Done...and with pleasure!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 08, 2009, 07:38:37 PM
thanks Dolce...done as well...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 08, 2009, 07:41:23 PM
Thanks Brandi!

whew!

There is someone out there.

Felt like I was posting to myself LOL

Thanks Brandi for relaying the info.

I was out and about.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 08, 2009, 07:53:12 PM
This one gets out (possibly the daddy and he got to have a few samaches:

PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/2/2009 5:23:18 PM  - Booking#: 09-01772
Release Date & Time: 5/8/2009 12:34:27 PM
DOB: 2/10/1959 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.045-1a2   AGGRAV BATTERY PERSON USES A DEADLY WEAPON   F   S    $2,504.00    5/8/2009 12:33:18 PM
                $2,504.00    


This one goes back in:

JIMMIE  LEE  WILLIAMS
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/8/2009 7:19:38 PM  - Booking#: 09-01537
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 7/4/1978 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.03-1a1   BATTERY TOUCH OR STRIKE   M   F    $0.00    
                $0.00    


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: strayze on May 08, 2009, 07:57:58 PM
Sorry to bust in here, but I know we share some of the same posters over in the Caylee thread.

Please take a moment of time..

Be heard!!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12

DO NOT ALLOW THE ANTHONYS TO LIE AGAIN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. 
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!

Thanks!
Dolce


Thank you Dolce.. Done ;>)

I have responded to the upcoming appearance of Geo and Cindy on Larry King, warning of the problems the investigators had getting a straight story from Cindy, noting that this is public info released by the prosecutor's office.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 08, 2009, 08:18:51 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

The tone at the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office today appears to be upbeat and as determined to find 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings today as it was February 10, 2009 when she was abducted from her Satsuma, FL home in the middle of the night.

I spoke with Lt. Johnny Greenwood at length this morning to see where the investigation is at this point. The quick answer is that they have received over 4,000 leads and have interviewed over 300 people so far.

One thing I discovered today is that most of the men and women investigating the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings are parents, too.  One could easily believe that beyond their jobs, they might also be invested in this case on somewhat of a personal level.

Lt. Johnny Greewood tells me the happiest day will come when he can call a press conference and announce that Haleigh has been returned safe and sound. But until then, Greenwood says the investigators on the case remain working at the same level of intensity as the day the little girl was reported missing.

Greenwood contends that until proven otherwise, it is the department’s belief that Haleigh is still alive.

I asked Greenwood if the case was taking its toll on the investigators. He simply resonded, “No one is complaining.”

Lt. Greenwood and I talked about some of the tips that have been received.
 
I told him of one account passed along to me that involved a couple from Europe who came into the area to pickup their grandchild shortly after Haleigh vanished. The tipster thought they may have been in town to “buy” Haleigh. I was told the couple would be easy to find since one of them was reportedly bitten by a monkey while in Putnam County.

Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

I asked Lt. Greenwood more about the night Haleigh vanished when she was reportedly being watched by her now-stepmother, Misty Cummings.  Greenwood didn’t have much to add other than the fact that Misty has now been questioned at least ten times by investogators and her timeline still remains inconsistent.

What exactly is the reason for the upbeat tone at the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office today is anybody’s guess. Hopefuly they are closing in Haleigh’s whereabouts and narrowing down the suspects in the case.


http://www.bloggernews.net/120797



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 08, 2009, 08:21:15 PM
Thanks Brandi!

whew!

There is someone out there.

Felt like I was posting to myself LOL
sorry I didn't thank you earlier brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 08, 2009, 08:27:47 PM
Watch for this name to pop up
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753940&IMG=51772


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 08, 2009, 08:46:54 PM
Looks like Jerome has been busy   http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753945&IMG=51200


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 09:01:51 PM
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

The tone at the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office today appears to be upbeat and as determined to find 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings today as it was February 10, 2009 when she was abducted from her Satsuma, FL home in the middle of the night.

I spoke with Lt. Johnny Greenwood at length this morning to see where the investigation is at this point. The quick answer is that they have received over 4,000 leads and have interviewed over 300 people so far.

One thing I discovered today is that most of the men and women investigating the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings are parents, too.  One could easily believe that beyond their jobs, they might also be invested in this case on somewhat of a personal level.

Lt. Johnny Greewood tells me the happiest day will come when he can call a press conference and announce that Haleigh has been returned safe and sound. But until then, Greenwood says the investigators on the case remain working at the same level of intensity as the day the little girl was reported missing.

Greenwood contends that until proven otherwise, it is the department’s belief that Haleigh is still alive.

I asked Greenwood if the case was taking its toll on the investigators. He simply resonded, “No one is complaining.”

Lt. Greenwood and I talked about some of the tips that have been received.
 
I told him of one account passed along to me that involved a couple from Europe who came into the area to pickup their grandchild shortly after Haleigh vanished. The tipster thought they may have been in town to “buy” Haleigh. I was told the couple would be easy to find since one of them was reportedly bitten by a monkey while in Putnam County.

Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

I asked Lt. Greenwood more about the night Haleigh vanished when she was reportedly being watched by her now-stepmother, Misty Cummings.  Greenwood didn’t have much to add other than the fact that Misty has now been questioned at least ten times by investogators and her timeline still remains inconsistent.

What exactly is the reason for the upbeat tone at the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office today is anybody’s guess. Hopefuly they are closing in Haleigh’s whereabouts and narrowing down the suspects in the case.


http://www.bloggernews.net/120797


 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Sounds like there was a MONKEY PATROL in Satsuma


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 08, 2009, 09:26:23 PM
Just thinking out loud... I hope LE check the seven sisters island out... ::MonkeyTongue::




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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 08, 2009, 09:29:23 PM
#205  Art Harris Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pm

Debi–
I can’t believe Cobra would say Nay Nay and Amber were never part of the Haleigh investigation. Makes me wonder if the blogger misunderstood, unless it was taped. Was it? If so, put it up, let’s hear it…And if that’s wrong, raises questions about the rest of it…

I don’t know what police were telling him, but my police sources always wanted to grill Nay Nay –and did before Cobra bonded her out and immediately after she was brought back. All know she drove Misty on her last party weekend and partied in the same circles, so she may have heard her say something. She’s never been a suspect or person of interest, as some have misreported, but a possible source of information that could shed light on Misty and Ron’s state of mind, and other details that might provide a clue to where Haleigh is or what happened to her…Detectives just wanted her drug free and with a clear mind…that’s why they wanted her to chill in jail. What if she knows who Misty’s suppliers are? Her party MO? Or heard Misty say something about Ronald or friends that might lead to a Haleigh clue. I’d say she’s part of the investigation, wouldn’t you?

Rememer, Cobra bailed her out, and drove her and Amber around town looking for hangouts and characters who might know Misty and Ronald…He sure was using them to shake things up and information loose…

As for Amber, ex-girlfriend, mother of Jordan…she raised Haleigh for three out of the five years she lived with Ron, and Junior…she has valuable insight into the household, and told me about his allegedly abusive behaviour and gun play (”He’s crazy,” Amber told me when we first spoke). Her experience with his behaviour could also be a source of insight and clue, including people she hangs with…Anyone who travels in the same circles is valuable for investigators as they keep trying to rule people in or close to Haleigh’s family in or out…

#212  Art Harris Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Debi–My response was someone who sent a link to bloggernewsnetwork and a blogger who claimed to have interviewed Cobra.


#210  Gayle Says:

May 8th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

Art said:Gayle–Did anyone ever consider a pile of clean clothes might be good for packing if Haleigh was going on a long trip?

Art, that is brilliant! I guess that innocent move may not have been? Good thinking.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/
May 8th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

hobbit55 says:

There were reports early on that Ron did in fact receive some sort of notice regarding Haleighs excessive absences (22) from school just a day before she disappeared. Just as there are confirmed reports that the state had filed a motion to find Crystal in contempt of court for non-payment of child support the day Haleigh disappeared that then withdrew it ten days later to wait until the outcome of her disappearance.

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1503


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 08, 2009, 09:29:26 PM
Just thinking out loud... I hope LE check the seven sisters island out... ::MonkeyTongue::




<div id="MMEmbeddedMap" style="padding:8px"><iframe width="500" height="400" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://www.multimap.com/client/embed/?lat=29.5725&lon=-81.68667&zoomFactor=18&mapType=hybrid&moveMap=200,-86&emid=L6CP4Yn1GXBMCni7veozCPH8qD6MUjfL"></iframe><div><a href="http://www.multimap.com/maps/?lat=29.




I certainly hope so!
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=address&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=29.5725&longitude=-81.68667

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/sevensisters.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 08, 2009, 09:32:40 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 09:35:53 PM
Looks like Jerome has been busy   http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753945&IMG=51200

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/InmateReleases/detail.asp?Bookmark=3&From=list&SessionID=636685711


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 08, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
Just thinking out loud... I hope LE check the seven sisters island out... ::MonkeyTongue::




<div id="MMEmbeddedMap" style="padding:8px"><iframe width="500" height="400" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" src="http://www.multimap.com/client/embed/?lat=29.5725&lon=-81.68667&zoomFactor=18&mapType=hybrid&moveMap=200,-86&emid=L6CP4Yn1GXBMCni7veozCPH8qD6MUjfL"></iframe><div><a href="http://www.multimap.com/maps/?lat=29.




I certainly hope so!
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=address&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=29.5725&longitude=-81.68667

(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/sevensisters.jpg)

Klaasend.. That island has me worried not far from their home.... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 10:25:38 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

...and if these are TJ Hart's notes, why was this part on the bloggernews site and not on TJ Hart's site?

odd.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 10:31:55 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

see, I told yall some monkeys escaped from the tarzan movies.. or was it a monkey from here?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 10:38:13 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

see, I told yall some monkeys escaped from the tarzan movies.. or was it a monkey from here?

mio, I just want to wish you a wonderful birthday tomorrow!

I hope you get to spend it in a way that makes you happy!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 10:49:36 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

...and if these are TJ Hart's notes, why was this part on the bloggernews site and not on TJ Hart's site?

odd.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

see, I told yall some monkeys escaped from the tarzan movies.. or was it a monkey from here?

mio, I just want to wish you a wonderful birthday tomorrow!

I hope you get to spend it in a way that makes you happy!

Thank you so much Brandi :) I was just thinking of taking my canoe and going to satsuma to  have a look at that island tomorrow.  Those islands have had my attention for a while now too. 
I read earlier this morning, where someone here posted about the island, and while researching, I found a realtor listing which described  a property as this,,,
"A  small pond, a waterfall, deep water canal, with a full view of seven sisters island".
made me curious of what other views there are and how close this island is in reality.

Haleigh being found  safe ,would be great for sure. 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 08, 2009, 10:55:33 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

...and if these are TJ Hart's notes, why was this part on the bloggernews site and not on TJ Hart's site?

odd.
sorry I deleted this part before I clicked send
I guess TJ edits parts out before he puts it up, at the top of the page it says: These are unedited reporter’s notes from TJ Hart. Thank you Mr.Hart

FWIW on Jerome's arrest it is being reported over yonder that he is a "weekender", I checked and those charges do seem to be old, so I guess he'll just be in for the weekend. The other ones who came in tonight and have no bond set apparently are all "weekenders".


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 08, 2009, 10:56:30 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

see, I told yall some monkeys escaped from the tarzan movies.. or was it a monkey from here?

mio, I just want to wish you a wonderful birthday tomorrow!

I hope you get to spend it in a way that makes you happy!

Thank you so much Brandi :) I was just thinking of taking my canoe and going to satsuma to  have a look at that island tomorrow.  Those islands have had my attention for a while now too. 
I read earlier this morning, where someone here posted about the island, and while researching, I found a realtor listing which described  a property as this,,,
"A  small pond, a waterfall, deep water canal, with a full view of seven sisters island".
made me curious of what other views there are and how close this island is in reality.

Haleigh being found  safe ,would be great for sure. 




That would be great for us if you did that! You be safe!

Oh, and be sure to check out your birthday thread I just started at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5044.0

Monkeys, feel free to post your birthday wishes there for mio!

 ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 11:07:34 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

see, I told yall some monkeys escaped from the tarzan movies.. or was it a monkey from here?

mio, I just want to wish you a wonderful birthday tomorrow!

I hope you get to spend it in a way that makes you happy!

Thank you so much Brandi :) I was just thinking of taking my canoe and going to satsuma to  have a look at that island tomorrow.  Those islands have had my attention for a while now too. 
I read earlier this morning, where someone here posted about the island, and while researching, I found a realtor listing which described  a property as this,,,
"A  small pond, a waterfall, deep water canal, with a full view of seven sisters island".
made me curious of what other views there are and how close this island is in reality.

Haleigh being found  safe ,would be great for sure. 




That would be great for us if you did that! You be safe!

Oh, and be sure to check out your birthday thread I just started at: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5044.0

Monkeys, feel free to post your birthday wishes there for mio!

 ::MonkeyDance::

Brandi, what a thoughtful and kind gesture. The page is lovely, thank you so much.
you made my night for sure.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 11:17:02 PM
Mioyshi  I looked on Google Earth, and it appears that Buchanan Circle ... view would be the island.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 11:19:04 PM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

...and if these are TJ Hart's notes, why was this part on the bloggernews site and not on TJ Hart's site?

odd.

Possibly Bloggernews was doing the interviewing???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 08, 2009, 11:26:11 PM
Mioyshi  I looked on Google Earth, and it appears that Buchanan Circle ... view would be the island.

thanks grama, I will have a look , my dial up takes me days....but, I wanted to know the name of the nearest road, thanks for the info..:)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 08, 2009, 11:46:31 PM
Mioyshi  I looked on Google Earth, and it appears that Buchanan Circle ... view would be the island.

thanks grama, I will have a look , my dial up takes me days....but, I wanted to know the name of the nearest road, thanks for the info..:)

Measured direct from Buchanan Circle to Seven Sisters is .32mile.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/SevenSisters.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 08, 2009, 11:54:35 PM
Good Evening My Monkey Friends. I just got word that Nicole is in jail? Can  Also, one of u smart monkeys verify if that is true? It's for shoplifting.
Please don't throw nanners at me if it's not true. It came from a reliable source.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 08, 2009, 11:56:13 PM
Forgot to mention. It' a full moon as I'm sure you all know. Maybe, just maybe this will be a good weekend.
Please Someone Tell Where Our Lil Haleigh Is              ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Foggy Dew on May 09, 2009, 12:10:27 AM
Hi Monkeys  :smt039

:smt100 I've noticed that the roads near Haleigh's home are dusty.  Was there ever any mention of LE taking castings of tire or other tracks there?  I don't know FL dirt, let alone Satsumas but I've been wondering about it for a long time so thought I'd ask.  Of course I know that some textures of dirt wouldn't lend themselves to having castings taken.  TIA

Come home, Haleigh !

Foggy



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:11:31 AM
Good Evening My Monkey Friends. I just got word that Nicole is in jail? Can  Also, one of u smart monkeys verify if that is true? It's for shoplifting.
Please don't throw nanners at me if it's not true. It came from a reliable source.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Do you mean Amber NIcole Brooks??  Regardless, I checked the PCSO for the bookings up to 11:30 and so far nothing.  I will post this link, and all you do is click and then the bookings names appear as they are booked.  Maybe hasn't hit the system yet.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 12:15:27 AM
Good Evening My Monkey Friends. I just got word that Nicole is in jail? Can  Also, one of u smart monkeys verify if that is true? It's for shoplifting.
Please don't throw nanners at me if it's not true. It came from a reliable source.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Hi rosebud!

Um .. who is Nicole?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:15:43 AM
Mioyshi here is another view.  You can see at the top the yellow pushpin for Buchanan Circle.  Also, there is a landing listed on this side.  Just below the ..Stokes Isand name...where the camera is...is Stokes Landing.  It is about .64 miles from this end.


(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/SevenSisters2.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 12:19:26 AM
I'm going to go back and make a call. I was told Nicole maybe the wrong name. The girl that was the prostitute that was with the girls the weekend of the 3 day party. This is why I hate to post anything until I'm totally certain. I'll be back


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:19:50 AM
Hi Monkeys  :smt039

:smt100 I've noticed that the roads near Haleigh's home are dusty.  Was there ever any mention of LE taking castings of tire or other tracks there?  I don't know FL dirt, let alone Satsumas but I've been wondering about it for a long time so thought I'd ask.  Of course I know that some textures of dirt wouldn't lend themselves to having castings taken.  TIA

Come home, Haleigh !

Foggy

Hmmmmm...we will have to find out if anyone was able to do an ...UNZIP... to find out.  Have not heard, as they are keeping everything tight lipped as to their investigation. 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:21:26 AM
I'm going to go back and make a call. I was told Nicole maybe the wrong name. The girl that was the prostitute that was with the girls the weekend of the 3 day party. This is why I hate to post anything until I'm totally certain. I'll be back

Lindsay???  or  Kristina ( Nay Nay)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 12:21:57 AM
I'm going to go back and make a call. I was told Nicole maybe the wrong name. The girl that was the prostitute that was with the girls the weekend of the 3 day party. This is why I hate to post anything until I'm totally certain. I'll be back

Maybe you mean nay nay: KRISTINA  RENEE  PREVATT  ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:24:33 AM
rosebud...found this femal for shoplifting today.

SHORONDA MARIE DEERING
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/8/2009 5:39:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-01869
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/14/1988 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
812.015-2 SHOPLIFTING PETIT FROM MERCHANT 2ND OR SUBSQ OFF M F  $504.00   
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 12:27:11 AM
O.K. it says Amber Nicole in Satsuma. B#09-01870 I tried to send link having prob. I iwll try again


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 09, 2009, 12:31:33 AM
Mioyshi  I looked on Google Earth, and it appears that Buchanan Circle ... view would be the island.

thanks grama, I will have a look , my dial up takes me days....but, I wanted to know the name of the nearest road, thanks for the info..:)

Measured direct from Buchanan Circle to Seven Sisters is .32mile.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/SevenSisters.jpg)

thanks grama, is this the same circle the dogs trailed?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 12:32:00 AM
snip from above article: 
Greenwood did say that a person in the area was indeed bitten by a monkey, but didn’t say much about that story beyond that. And honestly, I understand why he didn’t.

Was it a monkey from here?   ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 12:33:28 AM
O.K. it says Amber Nicole in Satsuma. B#09-01870 I tried to send link having prob. I iwll try again

ahhh .. Amber Brooks ...the mother of Ronald's other child, Jordan.

She was with nay nay and Misty and white boy Greg on that infamous 3-day bender, so they say.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
I just went there and it is under booking # 09-01870  Amber Nicole


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:42:46 AM
I just went there and it is under booking # 09-01870  Amber Nicole

Here is the booking for 09 - 01870

AMBERLY NICOLE REGISTER
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/8/2009 7:41:34 PM  - Booking#: 09-01870
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/1/1981 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
812.015-2 SHOPLIFTING PETIT FROM MERCHANT 2ND OR SUBSQ OFF M F  $0.00   
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:44:36 AM
Mioyshi  I looked on Google Earth, and it appears that Buchanan Circle ... view would be the island.

thanks grama, I will have a look , my dial up takes me days....but, I wanted to know the name of the nearest road, thanks for the info..:)

Measured direct from Buchanan Circle to Seven Sisters is .32mile.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/SevenSisters.jpg)

thanks grama, is this the same circle the dogs trailed?

Yes, I can post you a map showing the dog route if you like.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:50:25 AM
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/user21731_pic6213_1234802385.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 09, 2009, 12:51:04 AM
 grama,if you have that handy, I would like to have another look at that trail.
But, I will have to read it tomorrow, as I think I am going to bed now. My mind is  as full as the moon.
Ya;ll have a good night.  and thanks again for the birthday wishes.   ::MonkeyCool::  mio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 12:52:29 AM
Nice work there, Grama!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 12:56:11 AM
Nice work there, Grama!

That is what monkey's are for...to help one another.  I admire her for her enthusiasm to go there and have a look around.  Hope she has a companion.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 01:00:34 AM
too bad it's not 'our' Amber, anyway I think that this girl is just another weekender, it says no bond.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 01:08:30 AM
Is this not our Amber? The person who told me swore it was one of the girls. Not too menton they all look alike. I'm so sorry, it was not the correct person. I'll continue to keep my big mouth shut. SORRY ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 01:13:00 AM
I did this for Crystal for Mothers Day, so Crystal if your reading this, This is for you....Happy Mothers Day and I hope and pray that God will bring you your baby girl back soon.  Also if any of you monkeys are friends with her on myspace please feel free to send it to her.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/900/hcm.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 01:22:40 AM
Is this not our Amber? The person who told me swore it was one of the girls. Not too menton they all look alike. I'm so sorry, it was not the correct person. I'll continue to keep my big mouth shut. SORRY ::MonkeyNoNo::

She may be one of working girls down there  ::MonkeyHaHa::  No problem, there are sooo many names that have been mentioned, and everyone one of them has a mug shot  ::MonkeyConfused:: it's really easy to get them mixed up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 01:23:45 AM
I did this for Crystal for Mothers Day, so Crystal if your reading this, This is for you....Happy Mothers Day and I hope and pray that God will bring you your baby girl back soon.  Also if any of you monkeys are friends with her on myspace please feel free to send it to her.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/900/hcm.jpg)

JNGA  that is beautiful, I'm sure Crystal will love it!   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TiggerKitty on May 09, 2009, 01:26:35 AM
That is so beautiful JNGA!  ::MonkeyAngel::
I hope and pray we get some good news and Haleigh comes home this weekend.
Too bad that wasnt our Amber that was arrested. I was wondering what in the heck did this girl steal?  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyTongue::
I guess the "weekenders" come back every week for more samwitches LOL! Must be good stuff. I wonder if they stay the entire weekend or does Chuck bail them out too? ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 01:27:14 AM
I did this for Crystal for Mothers Day, so Crystal if your reading this, This is for you....Happy Mothers Day and I hope and pray that God will bring you your baby girl back soon.  Also if any of you monkeys are friends with her on myspace please feel free to send it to her.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/900/hcm.jpg)

JNGA  that is beautiful, I'm sure Crystal will love it!   ::MonkeyAngel::

That's very nice, JNGA!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 01:30:40 AM
Maven, Thanks. I'm feeling really, really bad about mentioning it. I'll just wait for u monkeys in the future. Last thing I want is to start any kind of rumor. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 01:37:19 AM
Maven, Thanks. I'm feeling really, really bad about mentioning it. I'll just wait for u monkeys in the future. Last thing I want is to start any kind of rumor. ::MonkeyNoNo::

Don't worry, rosebud. We all make mistakes and we work as a team here!

Don't stop posting because of one error.

No one would post if we stopped when we made a mistake. LOL

 ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 01:38:39 AM
Maven, Thanks. I'm feeling really, really bad about mentioning it. I'll just wait for u monkeys in the future. Last thing I want is to start any kind of rumor. ::MonkeyNoNo::
Yes, no big deal.......happened before we understand!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:01:20 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 02:08:41 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:16:00 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 02:16:52 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

I would have never thought of that, but it does seem very possible. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 02:23:36 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Ok I'm with you on this.  So with this senerio why would misty have said she had on a shirt that she didn't?  Maybe who ever was involved was in a rush or hurry?  Maybe there were multiple people involved and weren't paying attention good enough?  I don't know...What do you think?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:27:39 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Ok I'm with you on this.  So with this senerio why would misty have said she had on a shirt that she didn't?  Maybe who ever was involved was in a rush or hurry?  Maybe there were multiple people involved and weren't paying attention good enough?  I don't know...What do you think?
And now that part about the shirt makes some sense.........It was alittle cool that night and if the persons that took her had her clothes then maybe thats the reason they took that shirt off and redressed her in something warmer, and also so there would be no description of what she was wearing....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 02:30:47 AM
Ok, so I'm wondering... If that were the case,  could it have been GGS that she left with as it is stated that she was there???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:32:13 AM
Ok, so I'm wondering... If that were the case,  could it have been GGS that she left with as it is stated that she was there???
I dont think so,  GGS would have to be back home, it would be too risky for her to be away from her house or to take the chance of being seen out and about that night, no someone else!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 02:35:55 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?

Do you have a link to that summons?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Some how I messed up that post. Do you have a link to that summons?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 02:37:41 AM
Ok, so I'm wondering... If that were the case,  could it have been GGS that she left with as it is stated that she was there???
I dont think so,  GGS would have to be back home, it would be too risky for her to be away from her house or to take the chance of being seen out and about that night, no someone else!!!

Ok  Extended family or Friends of both RC and MC or just RC?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 02:38:16 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Ok I'm with you on this.  So with this senerio why would misty have said she had on a shirt that she didn't?  Maybe who ever was involved was in a rush or hurry?  Maybe there were multiple people involved and weren't paying attention good enough?  I don't know...What do you think?
And now that part about the shirt makes some sense.........It was alittle cool that night and if the persons that took her had her clothes then maybe thats the reason they took that shirt off and redressed her in something warmer, and also so there would be no description of what she was wearing....

But they did all that and left her shoes behind.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:42:59 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?

Do you have a link to that summons?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Some how I messed up that post. Do you have a link to that summons?
No I do not, it was on one of Art Harris sites I think, and also in the earlier interviews it was mentioned that he had got something in the mail just  a few days befor about Haleighs attendence at school......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
Ok, so I'm wondering... If that were the case,  could it have been GGS that she left with as it is stated that she was there???
I dont think so,  GGS would have to be back home, it would be too risky for her to be away from her house or to take the chance of being seen out and about that night, no someone else!!!

Ok  Extended family or Friends of both RC and MC or just RC?
I think it was definaitly someone from RC side....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:45:23 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Ok I'm with you on this.  So with this senerio why would misty have said she had on a shirt that she didn't?  Maybe who ever was involved was in a rush or hurry?  Maybe there were multiple people involved and weren't paying attention good enough?  I don't know...What do you think?
And now that part about the shirt makes some sense.........It was alittle cool that night and if the persons that took her had her clothes then maybe thats the reason they took that shirt off and redressed her in something warmer, and also so there would be no description of what she was wearing....

But they did all that and left her shoes behind.
Who,s to say that she didnt have socks on her feet or some of them PJ's that have bottoms on the feet.....They didnt want to go searching all over for her shoes, and if they were carrying her they wouldnt care about them right that minute anyway..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 02:50:07 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...


In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

Ok I'm with you on this.  So with this senerio why would misty have said she had on a shirt that she didn't?  Maybe who ever was involved was in a rush or hurry?  Maybe there were multiple people involved and weren't paying attention good enough?  I don't know...What do you think?
And now that part about the shirt makes some sense.........It was alittle cool that night and if the persons that took her had her clothes then maybe thats the reason they took that shirt off and redressed her in something warmer, and also so there would be no description of what she was wearing....

But they did all that and left her shoes behind.
Who,s to say that she didnt have socks on her feet or some of them PJ's that have bottoms on the feet.....They didnt want to go searching all over for her shoes, and if they were carrying her they wouldnt care about them right that minute anyway..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Foggy Dew on May 09, 2009, 02:50:44 AM
Or maybe there were other shoes available that abductors (friendly or hostile) had on hand.  And imho, shoes'd be the least of their problems.

I don't get all the clothing chatter.  Would that there was a test to determine how recently a child has worn something since I've been skeptical about everything about this case (including what Haleigh was supposedly wearing) from Jump St.

Come home, Haleigh !

Foggy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 02:51:54 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:56:17 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 02:57:34 AM
Or maybe there were other shoes available that abductors (friendly or hostile) had on hand.  And imho, shoes'd be the least of their problems.

I don't get all the clothing chatter.  Would that there was a test to determine how recently a child has worn something since I've been skeptical about everything about this case (including what Haleigh was supposedly wearing) from Jump St.

Come home, Haleigh !

Foggy
Im with you there,   I have heard about alot of kidnappings from the childs home, but never have I ever heard about the person taking the child leaving whatever they were wearing in the home!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Blumonkey on May 09, 2009, 03:01:53 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?


That's what I was thinking. What would be the motive? This seems like an unlikely scenario to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:04:00 AM
It sounds very possible to me.  Wonder why RC went back to see if the trailer had been rented.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 03:05:06 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,

I think we discussed this before over yonder at length when Crystal first made that accusation. Haleigh has Turners and I am sure her Dr. would give RC some type of note that would keep him out of trouble. She has been sick a lot and it would be understandable and excused absences.  I don't believe he received a "summons" but just a notice like a few other parents that were posting at that time from Satsuma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 03:07:12 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?


That's what I was thinking. What would be the motive? This seems like an unlikely scenario to me.
The motive would be,   Ron dont get in trouble for the time Haleigh missed in school........he could get all the money that he has from donations.......he can keep her away from Crystal.......He knows that she is fine.......he doesnt have to worry about her constant care and Dr, appointments........there's alot to be considered,    especially if someone like a drug dealer had mentioned that they might take her from him....he just killed 2 birds with one stone........Haleigh is safely away from them.......he is getting money......he doesnt have the responcibility of taking care of her....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 03:08:52 AM
It sounds very possible to me.  Wonder why RC went back to see if the trailer had been rented.
Maybe he was just looking to see if he left something who knows.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:09:01 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,

I think we discussed this before over yonder at length when Crystal first made that accusation. Haleigh has Turners and I am sure her Dr. would give RC some type of note that would keep him out of trouble. She has been sick a lot and it would be understandable and excused absences.  I don't believe he received a "summons" but just a notice like a few other parents that were posting at that time from Satsuma.

Maybe that wasn't why she was absent.  I wonder what her day was like on the days that she was absent and who watched her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 03:10:30 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,
Sorry uhhh    No they wouldnt unless they had seen her and knew she was sick,,,,,,if she didnt go to the dr. then he wouldnt get a note..........I dont think all the days she missed had anything to do with being sick,  just that someone just didnt wanna get up and get her off....

I think we discussed this before over yonder at length when Crystal first made that accusation. Haleigh has Turners and I am sure her Dr. would give RC some type of note that would keep him out of trouble. She has been sick a lot and it would be understandable and excused absences.  I don't believe he received a "summons" but just a notice like a few other parents that were posting at that time from Satsuma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Foggy Dew on May 09, 2009, 03:13:31 AM
Hi HH,

I'm almost ready to hit the hay, but just wanted to remark on yours about motivation for custodial parent to snag a child.

I can imagine it if the parent was delusional enough to think that it was in the best interest of the child...like say parent got caught up w/a person (babysitter/bedpartner?) who was discovered to late to have some sleazy connections, but parent couldn't think of a way to get out of the fix they'd found themself in.

People do some wacky stuff for all manner of reasons.  I'm only imagining such a scenario. Thankfully, I've had a pretty "normal" existence.  My late Daddy used to tell me I was a bit fanciful when I was a child, God rest him.  :smt060  But imagining all the possible scenarios and second-guessing our own "normal" human motives and emotions is the only way to go.

I just think barring some "real" leads, all bets are off and all we have is our collective imagination to help bring Haleigh home.  What else is there right now?

Foggy

Foggy 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:14:02 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,

I think we discussed this before over yonder at length when Crystal first made that accusation. Haleigh has Turners and I am sure her Dr. would give RC some type of note that would keep him out of trouble.  She has been sick a lot  and it would be understandable and excused absences.  I don't believe he received a "summons" but just a notice like a few other parents that were posting at that time from Satsuma.

Maybe that wasn't why she was absent.  I wonder what her day was like on the days that she was absent and who watched her.

Idgie, I mean no disrespect and please know that I know we will not know what happened until Haleigh is found, but I'm wondering something.  How do you know about what I highlighted  in your quote above?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 03:16:59 AM
Hi HH,

I'm almost ready to hit the hay, but just wanted to remark on yours about motivation for custodial parent to snag a child.

I can imagine it if the parent was delusional enough to think that it was in the best interest of the child...like say parent got caught up w/a person (babysitter/bedpartner?) who was discovered to late to have some sleazy connections, but parent couldn't think of a way to get out of the fix they'd found themself in.

People do some wacky stuff for all manner of reasons.  I'm only imagining such a scenario. Thankfully, I've had a pretty "normal" existence.  My late Daddy used to tell me I was a bit fanciful when I was a child, God rest him.  :smt060  But imagining all the possible scenarios and second-guessing our own "normal" human motives and emotions is the only way to go.

I just think barring some "real" leads, all bets are off and all we have is our collective imagination to help bring Haleigh home.  What else is there right now?

Foggy

Foggy 
True,,   but there is also reasons that some custodian parents would let their child get snagged if they thought it would keep them safe, if the parent themselves were messed up with some illegal activity and actually thought the child was in danger, then I would say they might think it was for the best to have the child taken!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 03:21:46 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,

I think we discussed this before over yonder at length when Crystal first made that accusation. Haleigh has Turners and I am sure her Dr. would give RC some type of note that would keep him out of trouble. She has been sick a lot and it would be understandable and excused absences.  I don't believe he received a "summons" but just a notice like a few other parents that were posting at that time from Satsuma.

Maybe that wasn't why she was absent.  I wonder what her day was like on the days that she was absent and who watched her.

Here is a picture of Haleigh taken on November 14.

She was absent from school that day. Happened to be an "excused" absence.

She sure looks happy and well that day.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image51.png)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/School-Attendance.png)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 09, 2009, 03:27:35 AM
Thank You Brandi, I'm gonna think about this new way of looking at things, for I think it makes more sense then anything else, It would explain why Ronald isnt out looking, it would explain why he married Misty, it would explain why Haleighs clothes were changed, and why Misty doesnt wanna quite tell the truth, Im gonna go to Bed now and think about these things......see what else I can come up with!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:31:26 AM
Wow great work brandi!   ::MonkeyDance::

Ok a couple of questions:

* Is it dark out or is that some type of curtain, because she could have had a Dr. appointment earlier that day which would explain smileing and the what appears to be band aid sticky on her arm, which would still certainly qualify for a excused absence.

* Is that photo properties info from the actual photo or from when it was uploaded to the computer or myspace?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 03:32:03 AM
I can't get these quotes right tonight.

In this scenario it would make more sense if it was the noncustodial parent. That I would believe but I just don't see a reason for the custodial parent to be hiding her out?

I do,   He was gonna get in trouble by the school about her atttendance and they in turn would contact Crystal or she would hear about it, and possibly  use that against him also,

I think we discussed this before over yonder at length when Crystal first made that accusation. Haleigh has Turners and I am sure her Dr. would give RC some type of note that would keep him out of trouble.  She has been sick a lot  and it would be understandable and excused absences.  I don't believe he received a "summons" but just a notice like a few other parents that were posting at that time from Satsuma.

Maybe that wasn't why she was absent.  I wonder what her day was like on the days that she was absent and who watched her.

Idgie, I mean no disrespect and please know that I know we will not know what happened until Haleigh is found, but I'm wondering something.  How do you know about what I highlighted  in your quote above?

It was reported in an interview with TN about how Haleigh use to be in the Hospital a lot. Don't ask for a link but it was a live interview and as I stated we discussed this at length over yonder when Crystal first made the accusation. There were locals discussing the notices that are sent out from the School and one of the locals even said she had received one also. It was not a summons and not a threat of going to jail.

TN was pleading for whoever took Haleigh to bring her back in one interview where she said it was time for Haleigh's Drs appointment and that Haleigh must see the Dr every two weeks for her treatment for Turners.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:32:36 AM
Good night HH   ::MonkeyAngel::  Sweet dreams


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Foggy Dew on May 09, 2009, 03:34:55 AM
HH, I guess I didn't express myself well.

ITA.

If I were young, got involved w/someone w/whom I'd become intimate/moved into my abode, then discovered some scary stuff after the fact, yup I might go to some lengths to get my child out of there. 

Of course I would only stage something if I was stymied and couldn't fathom any other way to protect my child.  Given the crew I've read about there, geez who knows how their minds work or threats (real or imagined) existed and what kind of resolution they considered most effective.

I've been imagining (ugghh, that word again  :smt018) that she is safe.  I don't know why 'cause it defies logic and statistics after Haleigh's bein' missing these 3 months.

God love her and keep her wherever she may be.  :sunny:

Foggy





 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:36:38 AM
Ok Idgie, I don't go over yonder, so I wouldn't know about anything from there except what shows up in google searches.  I'll look for TN interview  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Foggy Dew on May 09, 2009, 03:47:16 AM
Pleasant dreams, Haleigh...

Goodnight Monkeys.  Sleep well.  :smt015

Foggy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 03:51:58 AM
Good night Foggy   ::MonkeyAngel::  Sweet dreams


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 03:55:04 AM
Night Foggy and all, been a long day so must hit the hay.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Foggy Dew on May 09, 2009, 04:01:51 AM
Good night Foggy   ::MonkeyAngel::  Sweet dreams


From your lips to God's ears.  :smt060

Oh, and before I cut out aren't the majority of the "U" (aka "unexcused") absences because Haleigh went missing/abducted? 

Come home Haleigh !

Foggy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 04:21:52 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing58.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 04:28:08 AM
Good night Foggy   ::MonkeyAngel::  Sweet dreams


From your lips to God's ears.  :smt060

Oh, and before I cut out aren't the majority of the "U" (aka "unexcused") absences because Haleigh went missing/abducted? 

Come home Haleigh !

Foggy

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/School-Attendance.png)

The 13 Unexcused absences tallied shown above were before she went missing. They did, however, keep records of her not in school for two weeks after she went missing, but those are not included in the tallies.

So any way you look at it, that is a lot of absences, IMO.

Good night, Foggy ;-)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TiggerKitty on May 09, 2009, 04:30:19 AM
Beautiful work Brandi! Haleigh looks so cute! I love the colors you used.
God bless Haleigh. ::MonkeyAngel:: I hope she comes home soon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 04:41:37 AM
Beautiful work Brandi! Haleigh looks so cute! I love the colors you used.
God bless Haleigh. ::MonkeyAngel:: I hope she comes home soon.

Thank you.

I think it is high time she is returned.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 06:07:35 AM
Well I tried to sleep but keep thinking about Haleigh.
I can't turn loose of a few ideas and my #1 theory even though I do have more.
The majority of abducted children are taken by their non custodial parent......
Ex Deputy Sheriff- ex Marine grandpa reports abuse to DCF..........
His wife takes the photos and believes this is abuse not accident.............
Haleigh and JR allegedly have not wanted to go home recently from Mom"s weekend visits........
Say they are being hit..........
Non custodial Parent does have many relatives living in Satsuma area to keep an eye on what is going on at the MH and when Dad is gone to work.........
KP said on JVM last night that LE never searched Crystal or Marie's homes after Haleigh was taken..............
Maternal Grand Parents never seemed upset...........

Does EX Deputy Sheriff know AC man?
Does he still have friends in Sheriff department?
Was his home checked?
Were phone records and pings checked ?

Wish I knew these answers so I could sleep. Praying for Haleigh to be returned home today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 09, 2009, 07:22:53 AM
Searching says to let yall know that she's having computer problems and will be back when computer lets her or when she gets a new one.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 09, 2009, 08:02:48 AM
Anyone think its odd that now Tj Hart is doing the reporting on this instead of Art Harris.. Did he throw in the towel or what?? Just curious


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 08:08:57 AM
Good Morning Monkeys

This is for Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u30/JSharlette/prayers.gif)

God Bless You, Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:13:48 AM
I did this for Crystal for Mothers Day, so Crystal if your reading this, This is for you....Happy Mothers Day and I hope and pray that God will bring you your baby girl back soon.  Also if any of you monkeys are friends with her on myspace please feel free to send it to her.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/900/hcm.jpg)


beautiful ! just beautiful!! xxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 08:13:54 AM
JNGA ~ 

What a special thought - Crystal & Haleigh

It is precious!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:16:47 AM
Maven, Thanks. I'm feeling really, really bad about mentioning it. I'll just wait for u monkeys in the future. Last thing I want is to start any kind of rumor. ::MonkeyNoNo::

rosebud,...if that is the worst thing that you ever bring to this forum, consider yourself lucky!
it doesn't hurt to bring stuff over here that you hear/see...then it is up to the smart monkeys here to discern if it is true or to take it with a grain of salt...don't worry about it....xxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:21:23 AM
I have been thinking about what Art said in his post about why Granny Sykes brought clean clothes over to the house the night Haleigh came up missing, and the more I think about it, the more sense it makes...

Didn't the kids stay with her over the weekend Misty was partying? She probably washed the clothes that had been dirtied there so the kids would have something clean. Also she may have come by to check up on Misty.
Have you heard any more there, ?
They did, but I would think that most gradma.s knowing that they was gonna have the kids again at some other time would just keep the few clothes that they brought there for the next time they stayed, I beginning to think that she brought them there for another reason and also the part about Misty doing laundry, I know it hasnt been confirmed but its starting to sound like maybe they were getting her stuff together to go on a long trip.....and now that we know Ronald has just gotten a summans about all the days Haleigh had missed at school , there could be something to this!!!!

I see my grand daughters almost ever day and I wash their dirty clothes and return them the next time that I see them... I keep clothes here for them as well...don't think granny sikes would unless she has them a lot...
I would think that Haleigh had enough clothes by the looks of the pictures that we have been supplied that she could do without the few outfits that Granny Sikes had from the weekend...jmo...just in case they were sending her on a trip, which I don't think is the case, but one never knows in this mess....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:22:39 AM
Searching says to let yall know that she's having computer problems and will be back when computer lets her or when she gets a new one.
 

was wondering where my girl was! tell her to hurry up and get back here! tell her hi for me...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:23:30 AM
hellllooooooo...am I the only one in here? no one else posting yet this morning???
Morning....yoo hoo! come out come out where ever you are Monkeys.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 08:25:36 AM
A few comments about some of the postings.

Ron seen going back to the trailer ~  Not sure what the rental arrangements were, but if Ron had a lease on the place then I can see him going back to ...make sure...that the place was not rented.  There are so many 'scam' people nowadays, that for him to know for sure...take a trip there. 

Then again,  maybe he just wanted to go back to be by himself, do some soul searching and remembering the happy times he spent with Haleigh.

Misty's comments of the evening and what took place are about as solid as a stump.  Some...stay the same...as if staged or memorized.  Some...are changed.  MANY are not being uttered.

How can she be SO SURE and POSITIVE of some (3:00AM) and YET be so vague on other's (clothing).  If Haleigh was wearing the pink t-shirt that day/evening and that is what she first stated in her statement....then obviously she could not remember if Haleigh had a bath or was changed for bed.  The shirt on the floor....triggered her mind...or it proved that she was not telling the truth. 

I am sure if we could ask Misty if she was standing on both feet, that she would actually look down....





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 09, 2009, 08:27:07 AM
I did this for Crystal for Mothers Day, so Crystal if your reading this, This is for you....Happy Mothers Day and I hope and pray that God will bring you your baby girl back soon.  Also if any of you monkeys are friends with her on myspace please feel free to send it to her.

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/900/hcm.jpg)


beautiful ! just beautiful!! xxxx

I sent this to her comments but then i emailed her and told her that scared monkeys all want to wish you a happy mother day and that one of the girls made this for her i hope that was ok


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:39:19 AM
A few comments about some of the postings.

Ron seen going back to the trailer ~  Not sure what the rental arrangements were, but if Ron had a lease on the place then I can see him going back to ...make sure...that the place was not rented.  There are so many 'scam' people nowadays, that for him to know for sure...take a trip there. 

Then again,  maybe he just wanted to go back to be by himself, do some soul searching and remembering the happy times he spent with Haleigh.

Misty's comments of the evening and what took place are about as solid as a stump.  Some...stay the same...as if staged or memorized.  Some...are changed.  MANY are not being uttered.

How can she be SO SURE and POSITIVE of some (3:00AM) and YET be so vague on other's (clothing).  If Haleigh was wearing the pink t-shirt that day/evening and that is what she first stated in her statement....then obviously she could not remember if Haleigh had a bath or was changed for bed.  The shirt on the floor....triggered her mind...or it proved that she was not telling the truth. 

I am sure if we could ask Misty if she was standing on both feet, that she would actually look down....





Grama...that is what I had thought as well when it was brought up before...xxx
also, I agree with you on Misty...Why of why did he ever marry this girl? the last person to see his daughter, the person who can't keep her stories straight???? he should have kicked her to the curb and had LE go after her to find out the truth...Not one of his finest decisions imo...

Starcat...that was sweet of you to send that picture to Crystal...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 09, 2009, 11:16:34 AM
A few comments about some of the postings.

Ron seen going back to the trailer ~  Not sure what the rental arrangements were, but if Ron had a lease on the place then I can see him going back to ...make sure...that the place was not rented.  There are so many 'scam' people nowadays, that for him to know for sure...take a trip there. 

Then again,  maybe he just wanted to go back to be by himself, do some soul searching and remembering the happy times he spent with Haleigh.

Misty's comments of the evening and what took place are about as solid as a stump.  Some...stay the same...as if staged or memorized.  Some...are changed.  MANY are not being uttered.

How can she be SO SURE and POSITIVE of some (3:00AM) and YET be so vague on other's (clothing).  If Haleigh was wearing the pink t-shirt that day/evening and that is what she first stated in her statement....then obviously she could not remember if Haleigh had a bath or was changed for bed.  The shirt on the floor....triggered her mind...or it proved that she was not telling the truth. 

I am sure if we could ask Misty if she was standing on both feet, that she would actually look down....





Grama...that is what I had thought as well when it was brought up before...xxx
also, I agree with you on Misty...Why of why did he ever marry this girl? the last person to see his daughter, the person who can't keep her stories straight???? he should have kicked her to the curb and had LE go after her to find out the truth...Not one of his finest decisions imo...

Starcat...that was sweet of you to send that picture to Crystal...

Even though I haven't been posting a lot...I have been following you all.
My thoughts on 'why' he married her.
Thinking back....He looked MAD...she was elated....and hadbeen given  TN diamond ring...probably the only monetary thing worth anything in this family, I truly believe TN encouraged and or demanded Ron marry her to keep him from being charged for rape or child abuse with Misty.
I don't remember seeing one picture that showed him happy about the marriage. 
JMO...but that is the impression I got when it all happened, and it's still the one I believe as to the 'why's of the marriage.
Misty may have something on Ron, I don't know, but I just can't see him marrying her for any other reason other to keep himself out of trouble.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 09, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
JNGA...that was a beautiful Mother's Day card you made, very thoughtful  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 01:59:37 PM
A few comments about some of the postings.

Ron seen going back to the trailer ~  Not sure what the rental arrangements were, but if Ron had a lease on the place then I can see him going back to ...make sure...that the place was not rented.  There are so many 'scam' people nowadays, that for him to know for sure...take a trip there. 

Then again,  maybe he just wanted to go back to be by himself, do some soul searching and remembering the happy times he spent with Haleigh.

Misty's comments of the evening and what took place are about as solid as a stump.  Some...stay the same...as if staged or memorized.  Some...are changed.  MANY are not being uttered.

How can she be SO SURE and POSITIVE of some (3:00AM) and YET be so vague on other's (clothing).  If Haleigh was wearing the pink t-shirt that day/evening and that is what she first stated in her statement....then obviously she could not remember if Haleigh had a bath or was changed for bed.  The shirt on the floor....triggered her mind...or it proved that she was not telling the truth. 

I am sure if we could ask Misty if she was standing on both feet, that she would actually look down....


I so agree with you about needing to hear the truth from Misty! I believe she holds the key.

I also agree, she is NOT smarter than a sixth grader, for sure.

But I had to laugh out loud at that above comment. LOL!! You are funny, Grama!

 ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 02:03:04 PM

Even though I haven't been posting a lot...I have been following you all.
My thoughts on 'why' he married her.
Thinking back....He looked MAD...she was elated....and hadbeen given  TN diamond ring...probably the only monetary thing worth anything in this family, I truly believe TN encouraged and or demanded Ron marry her to keep him from being charged for rape or child abuse with Misty.
I don't remember seeing one picture that showed him happy about the marriage. 
JMO...but that is the impression I got when it all happened, and it's still the one I believe as to the 'why's of the marriage.
Misty may have something on Ron, I don't know, but I just can't see him marrying her for any other reason other to keep himself out of trouble.

lulu ...I agree about motivation here. Seems to me no one involved in this case does anything unless it is self-serving.

And Haleigh is still missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 02:55:43 PM
GRAMA... ROFL That was way too funny about Misty having to look down to see if she is standing. Thank you so much for the laugh. I was in desperate need of a laugh. You are too funny.           ::MonkeyDance::                          ::cartwheel::
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 03:16:38 PM
O/T:

mioyshi is celebrating her birthday today. If you'd like to send her birthday greetings, there is a thread in the lounge set up for her:


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5044.0

  (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/MonkeyGuys/green-eyed-bday-wink.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 03:20:19 PM
Brandi, I just noticed that you dressed my lady for the 4th. PLEASE do set me up.I'll learn how to do this soon.
Also, thank you for thinking about dressing me up.
Blessings    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 03:34:07 PM
Brandi, I just noticed that you dressed my lady for the 4th. PLEASE do set me up.I'll learn how to do this soon.
Also, thank you for thinking about dressing me up.
Blessings    ::MonkeyAngel::

I'll email Klaas today or tomorrow and ask her to change it for you. She is the only one who can change it, besides you ;-)

Glad you like it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
GRAMA... ROFL That was way too funny about Misty having to look down to see if she is standing. Thank you so much for the laugh. I was in desperate need of a laugh. You are too funny.           ::MonkeyDance::                          ::cartwheel::
 ::MonkeyAngel::

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/thFunnyHumorMonkeyLaughingcl2.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:08:48 PM



Good Evening Monkey's  .... ::MonkeyTongue:: 

90 days later: Where's Haleigh?
By Kristin Chambers
Published: Saturday, May 9, 2009 1:04 AM EDT
Sunday marks 90 days since Haleigh Cummings was reported missing from her Satsuma home.

The 5-year-old's disappearance triggered a massive search and criminal investigation. It also put Putnam County into the national spotlight, often in unflattering ways, and put a fractured family's domestic issues front and center.

Now, some there months later, there are far more questions than answers.

"We don't know for sure what's happened, but we do know that somewhere down the end of the line there's going to be some type of crime involved," Capt. Dick Schauland, a spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said Friday.

Aside from general statements, authorities have refused to discuss what their investigators have uncovered.

"We also have to maintain a criminal investigation and we have to maintain the integrity of that," Schauland said. "Should we be able to release something that would help us locate Haleigh we would certainly do that even if it would compromise the criminal investigation."

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/09/news/news01.txt



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:10:35 PM
JNGA...

Beautiful picture of Haleigh and her Crystal...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 06:11:26 PM
thanks JG...
wish there was more news...something...anything!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:16:46 PM
thanks JG...
wish there was more news...something...anything!

I agree cookie. Too much time has passed away and still a mystery ... ::MonkeyTongue::

Prayers for Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 06:19:19 PM
Yep...prayers for Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:22:08 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 06:27:45 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 09, 2009, 06:28:11 PM
Anyone think its odd that now Tj Hart is doing the reporting on this instead of Art Harris.. Did he throw in the towel or what?? Just curious

hey lady!

I think Art Harris is still covering the case.

He does not post a new article every day.

I believe he is still answering comments on his blog.

I refuse to go to his site anymore, so I cannot be certain.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 06:34:21 PM
Anyone think its odd that now Tj Hart is doing the reporting on this instead of Art Harris.. Did he throw in the towel or what?? Just curious

hey lady!

I think Art Harris is still covering the case.

He does not post a new article every day.

I believe he is still answering comments on his blog.

I refuse to go to his site anymore, so I cannot be certain.



Yes he is answering comments, and then he "revises" the answers  ::MonkeyRoll:: Guess he has no new rumors news to report.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:38:29 PM
A Different Kind of Mom: Meet the Woman in Putnam County Who Cares For Righ-Risk Children, Assists in the Search For Haleigh and Who Has Become an Unlikely Supporter of Cobra Staubs

  Posted: Saturday, 09 May 2009 2:17PM

A Different "Mom"

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

 
Since February 10, 2009, I have written numerous stories on the abduction of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings from her Satsuma, Florida home where she lived with her father, brother and 17-year-old babysitter-now-stepmother.  I've also appeared several cable TV news shows and broken a ton of related stories on the airwaves of 97.3 The Sky in this missing child.

In the midst of the horror of knowing a child is missing and following on searches into places where this child might be, I've stumbled across some very sad stories as it relates to some children and their parents these days.  I've seen close up what drugs and an empty soul can do to people and the hell it brings down on their very own children. The picture is too ugly for words.

My faith in humanity was nearly gone until I was introduced the other day to a very special woman who has made it her crusade to save the children of these kinds of households.  This angel on earth takes care of eight children each day. Most of these children come from homes where the mother has either been incarcerated or is too far gone on drugs to care their own flesh and blood.
 
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:40:36 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I agree Maven... I dont believe anything that comes out of GGranny mouth.. I just found it odd that one of her last words to Haleigh if she is going to behave..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 06:44:42 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen"  ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

We all know the word ...mature.  But...I thought I would go to the dictionary and type the definition....

mature ~ ripe: fully developed; adult experience; due or payment, as a bill.
 

By the above definition, Misty does meet the qualifications for MATURE...ie, body ONLY.  Now if we could only get a definition of her MIND...that is where the SLACK IS!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 06:48:21 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen"  ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

We all know the word ...mature.  But...I thought I would go to the dictionary and type the definition....

mature ~ ripe: fully developed; adult experience; due or payment, as a bill.
 

By the above definition, Misty does meet the qualifications for MATURE...ie, body ONLY.  Now if we could only get a definition of her MIND...that is where the SLACK IS!!

Not according to GGranny and Mother Teresa.. Fibsty is mature and the best g/f/minor/babysister/wife that happen to Ron.. Nothing but praise but then again look what they have raised.... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 07:00:57 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I agree Maven... I dont believe anything that comes out of GGranny mouth.. I just found it odd that one of her last words to Haleigh if she is going to behave..... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is odd that she would say that, I tell my kids when I drop them off at their grandmothers  house to behave, but their grandmother has never come to visit and told my kids to behave before she left......... if what AH has reported from Ron's co-worker is true ...... that Haleigh did push Misty's buttons, I wonder was GGranny afraid of what may happen to Haleigh if she would continue to misbehave while in Misty's care?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 07:01:01 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen"  ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

We all know the word ...mature.  But...I thought I would go to the dictionary and type the definition....

mature ~ ripe: fully developed; adult experience; due or payment, as a bill.
 

By the above definition, Misty does meet the qualifications for MATURE...ie, body ONLY.  Now if we could only get a definition of her MIND...that is where the SLACK IS!!

Not according to GGranny and Mother Teresa.. Fibsty is mature and the best g/f/minor/babysister/wife that happen to Ron.. Nothing but praise but then again look what they have raised.... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Good Afternoon Jerseygirl ~

Well, Jersey they are entitled to their opinion, and I do believe they are a bit bias.

So, I would say the MONKEYS outnumber them...so...GUESS WHO WINS!!!!

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 07:25:06 PM
A Different Kind of Mom: Meet the Woman in Putnam County Who Cares For Righ-Risk Children, Assists in the Search For Haleigh and Who Has Become an Unlikely Supporter of Cobra Staubs

  Posted: Saturday, 09 May 2009 2:17PM

A Different "Mom"

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

 
Since February 10, 2009, I have written numerous stories on the abduction of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings from her Satsuma, Florida home where she lived with her father, brother and 17-year-old babysitter-now-stepmother.  I've also appeared several cable TV news shows and broken a ton of related stories on the airwaves of 97.3 The Sky in this missing child.

In the midst of the horror of knowing a child is missing and following on searches into places where this child might be, I've stumbled across some very sad stories as it relates to some children and their parents these days.  I've seen close up what drugs and an empty soul can do to people and the hell it brings down on their very own children. The picture is too ugly for words.

My faith in humanity was nearly gone until I was introduced the other day to a very special woman who has made it her crusade to save the children of these kinds of households.  This angel on earth takes care of eight children each day. Most of these children come from homes where the mother has either been incarcerated or is too far gone on drugs to care their own flesh and blood.
 
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

Thank you JG that was a really good interview. I hope this woman is blessed and has a wonderful Mother's Day she truly is an  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 09, 2009, 07:57:02 PM
Anyone think its odd that now Tj Hart is doing the reporting on this instead of Art Harris.. Did he throw in the towel or what?? Just curious

hey lady!

I think Art Harris is still covering the case.

He does not post a new article every day.

I believe he is still answering comments on his blog.

I refuse to go to his site anymore, so I cannot be certain.



Yes he is answering comments, and then he "revises" the answers  ::MonkeyRoll:: Guess he has no new rumors news to report.
What I was refering to was the time Cobra picked up Nay Nay at that pink house and took her to jail (revoked her bail) TJ was there covering it not Art... Last couple times while watching JVM instead of Art being there its been TJ Hart...Just found it "different" because before it was Art Harris at the way. He hasnt been posting anything "new" unlike TJ Hart..I dunno maybe its nothing..just was thinking it was weird


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:13:24 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I say behave to my grand daughter when she goes home to her parents...just so that she doesn't get scolded by her mom or dad...I can't stand to see her get into trouble, even if she has been naughty...I don't say it for any other reason except that I don't want to see her get scolded no matter what she does! Granny Sykes seems like she is just a southern granny that loves them grand kids...I see nothing sinister about granny...even if she does think that Misty is mature.. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 08:23:04 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I agree Maven... I dont believe anything that comes out of GGranny mouth.. I just found it odd that one of her last words to Haleigh if she is going to behave..... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is odd that she would say that, I tell my kids when I drop them off at their grandmothers  house to behave, but their grandmother has never come to visit and told my kids to behave before she left......... if what AH has reported from Ron's co-worker is true ...... that Haleigh did push Misty's buttons, I wonder was GGranny afraid of what may happen to Haleigh if she would continue to misbehave while in Misty's care?

Exactly..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 08:25:27 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen"  ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

We all know the word ...mature.  But...I thought I would go to the dictionary and type the definition....

mature ~ ripe: fully developed; adult experience; due or payment, as a bill.
 

By the above definition, Misty does meet the qualifications for MATURE...ie, body ONLY.  Now if we could only get a definition of her MIND...that is where the SLACK IS!!

Not according to GGranny and Mother Teresa.. Fibsty is mature and the best g/f/minor/babysister/wife that happen to Ron.. Nothing but praise but then again look what they have raised.... ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::

Good Afternoon Jerseygirl ~

Well, Jersey they are entitled to their opinion, and I do believe they are a bit bias.

So, I would say the MONKEYS outnumber them...so...GUESS WHO WINS!!!!

 ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 08:26:12 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I say behave to my grand daughter when she goes home to her parents...just so that she doesn't get scolded by her mom or dad...I can't stand to see her get into trouble, even if she has been naughty...I don't say it for any other reason except that I don't want to see her get scolded no matter what she does! Granny Sykes seems like she is just a southern granny that loves them grand kids...I see nothing sinister about granny...even if she does think that Misty is mature.. ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks cookie, my kids are still young, 8 and 6 so I am far away from being a grandma (HOPEFULLY), I have just never heard my kid's grandparents tell them to behave .... they probably do tho.

I still am unsure about her story of dropping by that night, I don't know why she would lie, and I'm not even sure if she did, it just took a while for that story to come out.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:26:15 PM
^^^ok, I am odd then cause I have said that to my grand daughter who is my heart....as explained in my above post...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:27:18 PM
^^^ok, I am odd then cause I have said that to my grand daughter who is my heart....as explained in my above post...

Maves...this post was not directed at your last post, which wasn't there when I started typing...LOL!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 08:33:40 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I agree Maven... I dont believe anything that comes out of GGranny mouth.. I just found it odd that one of her last words to Haleigh if she is going to behave..... ::MonkeyTongue::

It is odd that she would say that, I tell my kids when I drop them off at their grandmothers  house to behave, but their grandmother has never come to visit and told my kids to behave before she left......... if what AH has reported from Ron's co-worker is true ...... that Haleigh did push Misty's buttons, I wonder was GGranny afraid of what may happen to Haleigh if she would continue to misbehave while in Misty's care?

Just thinking Outloud.... Maybe Fibsty called Ron again and toldl him that she was having problems with Haleigh and Ron sent over  sargent GGranny ... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:40:22 PM
Does anyone really believe that Misty could not handle Haleigh herself? some think that Misty did severe harm to Haleigh...but yet  she calls Ron when Haleigh misbehaves? I have a grand daughter around the same age..it isn't like dealing with teenagers for heaven sake... and Haleigh hardly looks to be a kid who would misbehave...from all that we have heard, she was a very well behaved child...And if Ron was the abuser that others have posted about him, don't you think that Haleigh would behave with the threat that if she didn't that her dad would make her sorry when he got home? She would be too afraid not to behave...jmo.....I am not buying it that Misty would call ron...I think that she is a tough enough girl to take care of misbehaving all on her own....if there was any misbehaving...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 08:44:33 PM
Does anyone really believe that Misty could not handle Haleigh herself? some think that Misty did severe harm to Haleigh...but yet  she calls Ron when Haleigh misbehaves? I have a grand daughter around the same age..it isn't like dealing with teenagers for heaven sake... and Haleigh hardly looks to be a kid who would misbehave...from all that we have heard, she was a very well behaved child...And if Ron was the abuser that others have posted about him, don't you think that Haleigh would behave with the threat that if she didn't that her dad would make her sorry when he got home? She would be too afraid not to behave...jmo.....I am not buying it that Misty would call ron...I think that she is a tough enough girl to take care of misbehaving all on her own....if there was any misbehaving...

I do especially Fibsty coming back from a 3 day bender and she stated she was tired in interviews.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 09, 2009, 08:44:54 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I say behave to my grand daughter when she goes home to her parents...just so that she doesn't get scolded by her mom or dad...I can't stand to see her get into trouble, even if she has been naughty...I don't say it for any other reason except that I don't want to see her get scolded no matter what she does! Granny Sykes seems like she is just a southern granny that loves them grand kids...I see nothing sinister about granny...even if she does think that Misty is mature.. ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks cookie, my kids are still young, 8 and 6 so I am far away from being a grandma (HOPEFULLY), I have just never heard my kid's grandparents tell them to behave .... they probably do tho.

I still am unsure about her story of dropping by that night, I don't know why she would lie, and I'm not even sure if she did, it just took a while for that story to come out.
Im guilty of this.... Everytime I drop my 10 yr old daughter off at friends. grandparents,girl scouts and other relatives...I always say behave...It automaticly comes out right after i say i love you to her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 09, 2009, 08:48:42 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I say behave to my grand daughter when she goes home to her parents...just so that she doesn't get scolded by her mom or dad...I can't stand to see her get into trouble, even if she has been naughty...I don't say it for any other reason except that I don't want to see her get scolded no matter what she does! Granny Sykes seems like she is just a southern granny that loves them grand kids...I see nothing sinister about granny...even if she does think that Misty is mature.. ::MonkeyConfused::

Thanks cookie, my kids are still young, 8 and 6 so I am far away from being a grandma (HOPEFULLY), I have just never heard my kid's grandparents tell them to behave .... they probably do tho.

I still am unsure about her story of dropping by that night, I don't know why she would lie, and I'm not even sure if she did, it just took a while for that story to come out.
Im guilty of this.... Everytime I drop my 10 yr old daughter off at friends. grandparents,girl scouts and other relatives...I always say behave...It automaticly comes out right after i say i love you to her.

The senerio is GGranny came to visit the kids to drop off clothes. I never had my mom come to my house and before she left tell my kids are they going to behave . ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:57:17 PM
I don't think it is a big deal or anything about granny saying to behave...
jmo.....
like I said, I have said it to my grand daughter when her parents pick her up or when I drop her off...nothing meant by it...
do you think saying....be good....is anything? cause I have said that to her as well...be a good girl for grammy...just a loving gesture cause she;s my girl...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 08:59:39 PM
I don't think it is a big deal or anything about granny saying to behave...
jmo.....
like I said, I have said it to my grand daughter when her parents pick her up or when I drop her off...nothing meant by it...
do you think saying....be good....is anything? cause I have said that to her as well...be a good girl for grammy...just a loving gesture cause she;s my girl...

that being said, there were probably 50 times or more that granny didn't say anything like that to Haleigh when she saw her...just like I don't say that to my grand daughter every time I see her, but I have said "behave" to her before....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 09, 2009, 09:04:05 PM
When the bus picks up my girl ,Half the time I tell her to stay out of jail . She's seven ,thinks it's funny .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
When the bus picks up my girl ,Half the time I tell her to stay out of jail . She's seven ,thinks it's funny .

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::  now that is funny! never thought of saying that to her! ha ha!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 09:20:16 PM
^^^ok, I am odd then cause I have said that to my grand daughter who is my heart....as explained in my above post...

oh cookie I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was just thanking you for your POV as a grandmother, I am not one so I have no idea what that experience is like.

I did not mean or think that you are odd, after reading your post .... my response was just saying that I think my kids grandparents probably do say the same thing to them .......even tho I don't hear it.

sorry if my post sounded like I was calling you odd or anything, it is not what I meant to say.  :smt060


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 09:24:16 PM
^^^ok, I am odd then cause I have said that to my grand daughter who is my heart....as explained in my above post...

oh cookie I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was just thanking you for your POV as a grandmother, I am not one so I have no idea what that experience is like.

I did not mean or think that you are odd, after reading your post .... my response was just saying that I think my kids grandparents probably do say the same thing to them .......even tho I don't hear it.

sorry if my post sounded like I was calling you odd or anything, it is not what I meant to say.  :smt060

no no...not at all...I even posted another post telling you that my post was not meant towards your post, that we must have been posting our posts at the same time...hate that when it happens! LOL!
no problem...I did not take your post directed at me at all and my posts are not directed at anyone at all either...I post a lot "in general and not directed at any particular poster"....
everyone on here is great and the best of people anywhere! jmo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 09, 2009, 09:39:24 PM
goodnite dear monkey friends...
will speak tomorrow...
Have a wonderful Mother's Day...
maybe we will get some news tomorrow ....
nite..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 09:46:34 PM
goodnite dear monkey friends...
will speak tomorrow...
Have a wonderful Mother's Day...
maybe we will get some news tomorrow ....
nite..

nite cookie ..... hope you have a wonderful Mother's Day!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 09, 2009, 10:05:36 PM
Anyone see mioyshi on this evening???  I was watching and went out for a bit, and am curious how her day went, if she made the canoe trip or not.  I know it is her birthday, maybe doing some celebrating.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: momoftwins on May 09, 2009, 10:30:59 PM
When the bus picks up my girl ,Half the time I tell her to stay out of jail . She's seven ,thinks it's funny .
LOL ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 09, 2009, 10:37:12 PM
only 18 years old,  sad!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
When the bus picks up my girl ,Half the time I tell her to stay out of jail . She's seven ,thinks it's funny .

That is funny.  ::MonkeyLaugh::  This reminded me of something. I wasn't going to post this cause it's OT ... but when I was 16-17, I babysat for my cousin's little boy... he was four, and he had a mouth like a sailor  ::MonkeyShocked:: I had him for just about every day and night during the summer and in the afternoons during school time. I had tried "time out" and everything I could think of to make him stop using "bad words", and one day I told him the the "cursing cops" were gonna come get him.... couple days later we were outside and he said "oh sh*t", and within seconds we heard sirens ... I will never forget the look on his face  ::MonkeyShocked:: ...it was priceless, I can say he never cursed again in my presence anyway.  Sadly it did not 'stick', mainly cause his dad is who is, and his mom is who she is, but he is sitting in juvey right now.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 09, 2009, 11:00:05 PM
Why would GGranny Sykes say to Haleigh to behave????

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

Not sure JG, but I don't put much stock into granny's story anyway, I am not even sure she went there that night. She also says in that article that Misty "is a lot more mature than other people I’ve seen" ...... not sure who those people are but...... Misty and mature don't belong in the same sentence.

I say behave to my grand daughter when she goes home to her parents...just so that she doesn't get scolded by her mom or dad...I can't stand to see her get into trouble, even if she has been naughty...I don't say it for any other reason except that I don't want to see her get scolded no matter what she does! Granny Sykes seems like she is just a southern granny that loves them grand kids...I see nothing sinister about granny...even if she does think that Misty is mature.. ::MonkeyConfused::

I do agree with you Cookie.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 09, 2009, 11:14:15 PM
When the bus picks up my girl ,Half the time I tell her to stay out of jail . She's seven ,thinks it's funny .

That is funny.  ::MonkeyLaugh::  This reminded me of something. I wasn't going to post this cause it's OT ... but when I was 16-17, I babysat for my cousin's little boy... he was four, and he had a mouth like a sailor  ::MonkeyShocked:: I had him for just about every day and night during the summer and in the afternoons during school time. I had tried "time out" and everything I could think of to make him stop using "bad words", and one day I told him the the "cursing cops" were gonna come get him.... couple days later we were outside and he said "oh sh*t", and within seconds we heard sirens ... I will never forget the look on his face  ::MonkeyShocked:: ...it was priceless, I can say he never cursed again in my presence anyway.  Sadly it did not 'stick', mainly cause his dad is who is, and his mom is who she is, but he is sitting in juvey right now.   ::MonkeyNoNo::
::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 09, 2009, 11:15:36 PM
Sorry ,I was not laughing about the juvey part.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 11:24:54 PM
Sorry ,I was not laughing about the juvey part.

I know you weren't, it's a story that still makes me   ::MonkeyLaugh:: it's an unhappy end ...so far... he's still young and hopefully will change. I still like to think about the happy times.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 09, 2009, 11:39:31 PM
Sorry ,I was not laughing about the juvey part.

I know you weren't, it's a story that still makes me   ::MonkeyLaugh:: it's an unhappy end ...so far... he's still young and hopefully will change. I still like to think about the happy times.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Wanted to add that I am actively working on 'the change'. When he was in kindergarten I volunteered for a field trip, a kid asked him "is that your mom", he said  "no....she's....just....my...well... she's.... my Dawn", he will always be my "baby" and I will always be his Dawn. I would never enable him, or make excuses for him, but will always love him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 09, 2009, 11:48:48 PM
I think for someone who has been the caretaker of a child who seems could have been a handful at times, it might come natural to say when leaving, 'behave yourself', or some such. 

I have a couple of friends who have taken care of my sons every now and again when they were young, and when they'd visit, on leaving, they'd ruffle son's hair and tell em to be good.  All three of my sons minded one of my friends more than they ever minded me!  LOL  When she 'spoke', ooooooooooooo they listened!  (course, she had a huge st. bernard she'd make whichever kid she took care of, who dared to irritate her, pick up after.  heeeee).

Am thinking that since Gma had taken care of Haleigh so much before Misty came on the scene, Haleigh was already used to listening to her saying 'behave', etc.  Nothing alarming about that, IMO. 

Heck, I even say that to my doxie when I run out to the store!  Not that he listens any better than my sons did tho.  One can only hope.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 09, 2009, 11:49:42 PM
ALAGARY.. Hope you don't mind but I have to steal that one from you. "Stay out of jail". My grandson already thinks I'm crazy with some of the stuff I come up with. I can't wait to tell him that when I see him tommorrrow.
You monkeys are way too funny. ::MonkeyDance::                            ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 10, 2009, 12:05:51 AM
ALAGARY.. Hope you don't mind but I have to steal that one from you. "Stay out of jail". My grandson already thinks I'm crazy with some of the stuff I come up with. I can't wait to tell him that when I see him tommorrrow.
You monkeys are way too funny. ::MonkeyDance::                            ::cartwheel::

She's a good kid ,polite , straight A's all that . Steal away !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 12:11:04 AM
I think for someone who has been the caretaker of a child who seems could have been a handful at times, it might come natural to say when leaving, 'behave yourself', or some such. 

I have a couple of friends who have taken care of my sons every now and again when they were young, and when they'd visit, on leaving, they'd ruffle son's hair and tell em to be good.  All three of my sons minded one of my friends more than they ever minded me!  LOL  When she 'spoke', ooooooooooooo they listened!  (course, she had a huge st. bernard she'd make whichever kid she took care of, who dared to irritate her, pick up after.  heeeee).

Am thinking that since Gma had taken care of Haleigh so much before Misty came on the scene, Haleigh was already used to listening to her saying 'behave', etc.  Nothing alarming about that, IMO. 

Heck, I even say that to my doxie when I run out to the store!  Not that he listens any better than my sons did tho.  One can only hope.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 

LOL ......kids always behave better for somebody else.

Only part that struck me as odd was that Misty was "mommy" or "step-mommy" and the children still needed to be told to "behave" for her. 

My kids and even my nephews, who I have regularly already know, they should behave..... no I don't beat them...... but they know there is............ No Wii, No TV, No PS(of any kind), No DS, NO anything if they don't.

Saying that I know my kids will behave when I leave my kids elsewhere..... I do still tell them to "behave", heck I just inherited two cats, and I tell them to "behave" when I leave............. So I guess I lost my point.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 12:21:12 AM
I just want to wish all mom and grandmom monkeys a:

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2009, 12:50:19 AM
I, too, would like to wish all of you a very:

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~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 10, 2009, 12:52:34 AM
I think for someone who has been the caretaker of a child who seems could have been a handful at times, it might come natural to say when leaving, 'behave yourself', or some such. 

I have a couple of friends who have taken care of my sons every now and again when they were young, and when they'd visit, on leaving, they'd ruffle son's hair and tell em to be good.  All three of my sons minded one of my friends more than they ever minded me!  LOL  When she 'spoke', ooooooooooooo they listened!  (course, she had a huge st. bernard she'd make whichever kid she took care of, who dared to irritate her, pick up after.  heeeee).

Am thinking that since Gma had taken care of Haleigh so much before Misty came on the scene, Haleigh was already used to listening to her saying 'behave', etc.  Nothing alarming about that, IMO. 

Heck, I even say that to my doxie when I run out to the store!  Not that he listens any better than my sons did tho.  One can only hope.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
 

LOL ......kids always behave better for somebody else.

Only part that struck me as odd was that Misty was "mommy" or "step-mommy" and the children still needed to be told to "behave" for her. 

My kids and even my nephews, who I have regularly already know, they should behave..... no I don't beat them...... but they know there is............ No Wii, No TV, No PS(of any kind), No DS, NO anything if they don't.

Saying that I know my kids will behave when I leave my kids elsewhere..... I do still tell them to "behave", heck I just inherited two cats, and I tell them to "behave" when I leave............. So I guess I lost my point.   ::MonkeyTongue::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

But I do get your point, Maven.   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 01:12:44 AM


But I do get your point, Maven.   ::MonkeyWink::



LOL ....... thanks Wyks!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Rob on May 10, 2009, 07:42:51 AM
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY LADIES

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/mothers-day-rose.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 10, 2009, 08:08:04 AM
Happy Mothers Day to all the wonderful mothers

To who has asked about the dog crystal was given to Haleigh the dog is cute Maire put pictures up on ms and yes they still have the dog.She said the dog is still waitting for Haleigh to come home ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 10, 2009, 08:36:16 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 10, 2009, 09:02:34 AM
Hey Monkeys....Have a wonderful Mother's Day....
Any big plans? We are going to brunch/lunch at 1:00....will be fun...no mess, no dishes for any of us!
what about you all?
Whatever you do, enjoy!


No news I see....

Maven, enjoyed your ditty about your nephew....hope he straightens out....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 10, 2009, 10:09:42 AM
Hey Monkeys....Have a wonderful Mother's Day....
Any big plans? We are going to brunch/lunch at 1:00....will be fun...no mess, no dishes for any of us!
what about you all?
Whatever you do, enjoy!


No news I see....

Maven, enjoyed your ditty about your nephew....hope he straightens out....

Good morning all the Mother Monkeys,,,or would that be Monkey Mothers?
hm, not sure if any are correct, But, Happy Mothers Day to you all, no matter what sort of Monkey you are!!!

Hey cookie, did you have a look at " Memaws Sweet Tea" yet?
And again, thank you so much for the birthday notes and thread. I truley will remember this.
mio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 10, 2009, 10:22:36 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
Good Morning and Happy Mother's Day. I'm thinking about all the mothers who have a missing child, or have lost a child from illness or murder, my thoughts and prayers to you, to get through this difficult day. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 10, 2009, 11:01:07 AM
Good Morning and Happy Mother's Day. I'm thinking about all the mothers who have a missing child, or have lost a child from illness or murder, my thoughts and prayers to you, to get through this difficult day. ::MonkeyAngel::

morning no rose, and what a nice thought.  I hope you see many smiling faces today.
Happy Mothers Day....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 10, 2009, 11:03:53 AM
Happy Mothers Day to the quiet starcat ::MonkeyWink::


Edit to fix typos


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 10, 2009, 11:09:37 AM
When the bus picks up my girl ,Half the time I tell her to stay out of jail . She's seven ,thinks it's funny .

Mwhahahahaha  this is hilarious!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 10, 2009, 11:10:50 AM
 HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY To all my dear Monkey friends. I hope you all get a lil pampered today.     ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 11:21:20 AM
Good Morning and Happy Mother's Day. I'm thinking about all the mothers who have a missing child, or have lost a child from illness or murder, my thoughts and prayers to you, to get through this difficult day. ::MonkeyAngel::

morning no rose, and what a nice thought.  I hope you see many smiling faces today.
Happy Mothers Day....
Thank-you and I hope you do also. Hope you had a very happy birthday yesterday.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Dolce on May 10, 2009, 11:25:52 AM
(http://dryicons.com/files/graphics_previews/happy_mothers_day_card.jpg)

Love,
Dolce + 2


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 10, 2009, 11:32:22 AM
Happy Mothers Day to the quiet starcat ::MonkeyWink::
Edit-fix typos

i am sry i am quiet just nothing but rumors anymore intil there is facts then i will post


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 10, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
Hey Monkeys....Have a wonderful Mother's Day....
Any big plans? We are going to brunch/lunch at 1:00....will be fun...no mess, no dishes for any of us!
what about you all?
Whatever you do, enjoy!


No news I see....

Maven, enjoyed your ditty about your nephew....hope he straightens out....

Good morning all the Mother Monkeys,,,or would that be Monkey Mothers?
hm, not sure if any are correct, But, Happy Mothers Day to you all, no matter what sort of Monkey you are!!!

Hey cookie, did you have a look at " Memaws Sweet Tea" yet?
And again, thank you so much for the birthday notes and thread. I truley will remember this.
mio

yes I did and I left you a post over there!
that made my day...I printed it off...planning on making it later on this afternoon!
xxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 10, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
Happy Mothers Day to the quiet starcat ::MonkeyWink::

i am sry i am quiet just nothing but rumors anymore intil there is facts then i will post

no worries, I just wanted you to know that you are noticed whether you are quiet or not.
And to say Happy Mothers Day.. mio



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 10, 2009, 11:47:38 AM
Hey Monkeys....Have a wonderful Mother's Day....
Any big plans? We are going to brunch/lunch at 1:00....will be fun...no mess, no dishes for any of us!
what about you all?
Whatever you do, enjoy!


No news I see....

Maven, enjoyed your ditty about your nephew....hope he straightens out....

Good morning all the Mother Monkeys,,,or would that be Monkey Mothers?
hm, not sure if any are correct, But, Happy Mothers Day to you all, no matter what sort of Monkey you are!!!

Hey cookie, did you have a look at " Memaws Sweet Tea" yet?
And again, thank you so much for the birthday notes and thread. I truley will remember this.
mio

yes I did and I left you a post over there!
that made my day...I printed it off...planning on making it later on this afternoon!
xxxxx

good deal.. also, I  perk my coffee, so in the morning, I start a pot of coffee, and a pot of water. By the time the coffee is begininng to perk, my tea water is boiling. so, I add the sugar and tea bags, turn off the heat, and turn down the heat on my coffee pot.
All is done at same time. Then while I drink my coffee,  and read the monkeys, the tea has time to begin to cool.  After coffee, it is Tea time, all day long.

Yesterdays b day ended with going to my fav island, and watching the sunset.
Twas a wonderfull day. thanks again for all the thoughts. Happy Mothers day to you as well.

I send energies to the stars every day, for Haleigh to be returned. aho  >--> mio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 10, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
Good Morning and Happy Mother's Day. I'm thinking about all the mothers who have a missing child, or have lost a child from illness or murder, my thoughts and prayers to you, to get through this difficult day. ::MonkeyAngel::

morning no rose, and what a nice thought.  I hope you see many smiling faces today.
Happy Mothers Day....
Thank-you and I hope you do also. Hope you had a very happy birthday yesterday.

indeed it was a peaceful and happy day, ending with watching a most beautiful sunset before comming home.  thanks for the thoughts.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 01:45:59 PM
Hey Monkeys....Have a wonderful Mother's Day....
Any big plans? We are going to brunch/lunch at 1:00....will be fun...no mess, no dishes for any of us!
what about you all?
Whatever you do, enjoy!


No news I see....

Maven, enjoyed your ditty about your nephew....hope he straightens out....

Thanks cookie, I hope he gets on the right path too.

Hope everyone is having a nice Mother's Day!

I was hoping I'd get on here and see that Haleigh had been found, prayers for Haleigh and all the missing, and for their families.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 10, 2009, 03:52:13 PM
 ::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 05:19:06 PM
::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.

Monkey hugs to you lulu  I am sorry about your loss  :smt056


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 05:21:07 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Three Months And Counting
Posted on May 10th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture
Read 313 times
http://www.bloggernews.net/120819


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 10, 2009, 05:37:02 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Three Months And Counting
Posted on May 10th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture
Read 313 times
http://www.bloggernews.net/120819

Yeah, I read that. Or rather, I tried to red that. I did not post it here because there really is nothing there to post, IMO.

Also, that author needs to learn how to write before they call themselves an author. Basic spelling and grammar skills is the place to start.

From the post:
"Mothers Day comes with a heavy heart this year, its worth it though Haleigh is worth it.

I am blessed to of been asked to cover Haleigh Cummings, I wish she could be home for Mother’s Day."


um... huh?

I just have a hard time taking seriously anyone's article when they apparently do not know how to write. Or proofread. That's just the way I am, though.

Maybe I am just in a mood today. LOL

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 06:51:03 PM
::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.
I'm sorry, I understand your saying, sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day  :smt056


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 06:53:44 PM
Brandi, those two sentences you posted from that article, don't make a lot of sense  ::MonkeyConfused:: Maybe a grade school child wrote that, or at least it appears that way.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 10, 2009, 07:05:37 PM
A website that I have never seen before.  Lots of links to articles, may help when you want to go back and check out info.

http://www.jurorthirteen.com/GeneralCategories/Investigations/HaleighCummings/tabid/1107/Default.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 10, 2009, 08:27:27 PM
LuLu...I am sorry about your loss...

xxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 10, 2009, 08:28:04 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Three Months And Counting
Posted on May 10th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture
Read 313 times
http://www.bloggernews.net/120819

Is this the BNN that posters are ranting about on Topix? Never knew what they were talking about.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 10, 2009, 08:55:24 PM
DANA PRETZER IN ABOUT 5 MINUTES - GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW!

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 10, 2009, 09:18:07 PM
Thanks Klaas, for the heads up!!!!

Hope you had an enjoyable and relaxing Mother's DAY.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 09:23:29 PM
A website that I have never seen before.  Lots of links to articles, may help when you want to go back and check out info.

http://www.jurorthirteen.com/GeneralCategories/Investigations/HaleighCummings/tabid/1107/Default.aspx
That is interesting, thanks.  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
Thanks Klaas  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 09:27:17 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Three Months And Counting
Posted on May 10th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture
Read 313 times
http://www.bloggernews.net/120819

Is this the BNN that posters are ranting about on Topix? Never knew what they were talking about.

I haven't been to Topix since the beginning of the case, probably what they are talking about. IA Brandi that article was hard to follow.

Have you guys listened to this yet?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony

I haven't been able to listen yet, but they are talking about it over yonder and sounds like it was interesting. I believe it is an interview with Cobra and AH.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 10, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
Yes  Thanks Klaas, and Happy Mothers Day to all my fellow Monkeys,   May God Bless all of you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 10, 2009, 10:04:57 PM
Right back at ya HH!!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 10, 2009, 10:20:48 PM
Yes  Thanks Klaas, and Happy Mothers Day to all my fellow Monkeys,   May God Bless all of you!
Hope you and all the monkeys had a very happy Mother's Day. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 10, 2009, 10:51:01 PM
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY LADIES

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/Morgan2112_2006/mothers-day-rose.jpg)

Thanks, Rob!!!

Happy Mothers' Day Monkeys!!!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 10, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Three Months And Counting
Posted on May 10th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture
Read 313 times
http://www.bloggernews.net/120819

Is this the BNN that posters are ranting about on Topix? Never knew what they were talking about.

I haven't been to Topix since the beginning of the case, probably what they are talking about. IA Brandi that article was hard to follow.

Have you guys listened to this yet?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony

I haven't been able to listen yet, but they are talking about it over yonder and sounds like it was interesting. I believe it is an interview with Cobra and AH.
I cant figure out any of this..Topix..nothing but fighting and complaining of who is who..wth FIND HALEIGH


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 10, 2009, 11:00:08 PM
Happy Mothers Day to the quiet starcat ::MonkeyWink::
Edit-fix typos

i am sry i am quiet just nothing but rumors anymore intil there is facts then i will post

Starcat, I have been thinking of you today, Sweetie, and have sent prayers out for you.

xoxo
Bearly



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 11:26:43 PM
I am listening to the interview right now, so far there is no new information, it is interesting tho. One comment that I must agree with is Cobra's statement that they should "hook em up side by side" (talking about CA and Melissa Huckaby). Also poor Adji, they are right about why no media coverage for him  ::MonkeyWaa:: AH says police haven't searched Crystal's home, and so far there has been no real investigation of Crystal or Chad, police seem to be focusing more on Cummings/Croslin.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony

oh Idgie I think the people over at Topix may be talking about this interview.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 10, 2009, 11:28:59 PM
I am listening to the interview right now, so far there is no new information, it is interesting tho. One comment that I must agree with is Cobra's statement that they should "hook em up side by side" (talking about CA and Melissa Huckaby). Also poor Adji, they are right about why no media coverage for him  ::MonkeyWaa:: AH says police haven't searched Crystal's home, and so far there has been no real investigation of Crystal or Chad, police seem to be focusing more on Cummings/Croslin.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony

oh Idgie I think the people over at Topix may be talking about this interview.
Yea   and Cobra said that some truck driver picked up Adji?????????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 10, 2009, 11:29:15 PM
Happy Mothers Day to all the Monkeys that are mothers.

I have a lot to be thankful for today.

Yesterday I worked all day as an alternate judge during our local election.

Got home last night, ate a bite or two, showered and went to bed. Thirty minutes or so later my phone rang.  I answered and it was my baby daughter who had just had just experienced a home invasion. 

The scum broke in, hit her in her mouth, grab her purse and ran out.  Thank God all he did was damaged her lip.  She can always replace a purse.  Her cell phone was in her purse.  Her sister and my grandson tried calling the cell phone and did not get a response until late this evening.

The response was:  Bit_ _es this is the way we do it in NO (New Orleans. This is what we do to Texas bamas.

I am very relieved and thankful that my daughter's life was spared, but I am so upset with these lowlife pieces of chit I could just spit nails right about now.

We also found out this evening that they had hit another apartment earlier yesterday and shot the occupant.

We spent the day moving my daughter out of her apartment.

God is good!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
I am listening to the interview right now, so far there is no new information, it is interesting tho. One comment that I must agree with is Cobra's statement that they should "hook em up side by side" (talking about CA and Melissa Huckaby). Also poor Adji, they are right about why no media coverage for him  ::MonkeyWaa:: AH says police haven't searched Crystal's home, and so far there has been no real investigation of Crystal or Chad, police seem to be focusing more on Cummings/Croslin.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony

oh Idgie I think the people over at Topix may be talking about this interview.
Yea   and Cobra said that some truck driver picked up Adji?????????

yes ... I wonder what info he has that has led him to believe that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 11:36:15 PM
Happy Mothers Day to all the Monkeys that are mothers.

I have a lot to be thankful for today.

Yesterday I worked all day as an alternate judge during our local election.

Got home last night, ate a bite or two, showered and went to bed. Thirty minutes or so later my phone rang.  I answered and it was my baby daughter who had just had just experienced a home invasion. 

The scum broke in, hit her in her mouth, grab her purse and ran out.  Thank God all he did was damaged her lip.  She can always replace a purse.  Her cell phone was in her purse.  Her sister and my grandson tried calling the cell phone and did not get a response until late this evening.

The response was:  Bit_ _es this is the way we do it in NO (New Orleans. This is what we do to Texas bamas.

I am very relieved and thankful that my daughter's life was spared, but I am so upset with these lowlife pieces of chit I could just spit nails right about now.

We also found out this evening that they had hit another apartment earlier yesterday and shot the occupant.

We spent the day moving my daughter out of her apartment.

God is good!



Oh Heart that is terrible! I am so glad your daughter is OK, I hope they find these guys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 11:43:30 PM
Cobra seems to think the time line begins at 3:00pm, he says 5 witnesses including the bus driver have confirmed that it was Misty who picked Haleigh up, AH agrees, says he's talked to people also. No confirmation but Cobra has heard that, Saap was there that afternoon with Misty's brother watching the children play. Cobra does not seem to believe GGrama stopped by that night.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 10, 2009, 11:47:39 PM
Cobra seems to think the time line begins at 3:00pm, he says 5 witnesses including the bus driver have confirmed that it was Misty who picked Haleigh up, AH agrees, says he's talked to people also. No confirmation but Cobra has heard that, Saap was there that afternoon with Misty's brother watching the children play. Cobra does not seem to believe GGrama stopped by that night.
Yea I heard that, hmmmm interesting!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 10, 2009, 11:47:42 PM
So do I Maven!   However sometimes LE seems to be so unconcerned.  But perhaps they are more concerned than what we think.  I did informed LE that these criminals profess to be from New Orleans.  I thought that their actions had waned since they came here after Katrina.  But I guess not.   They were really bad when they first moved and/or relocated here.  I had not heard anything about their activities for awhile.  But unfortunately they are still alive and kicking (kicking in peoples doors robbing and killing).


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 11:48:21 PM
Cobra believes that the cinder block has been used before, regardless of what Ron says .... apparently JR and Crystal were at his hotel room going swimming and that JR went and found two bricks to prop his hotel door open. Cobra says no bump locking procedure was used to get in.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 10, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
So do I Maven!   However sometimes LE seems to be so unconcerned.  But perhaps they are more concerned than what we think.  I did informed LE that these criminals profess to be from New Orleans.  I thought that their actions had waned since they came here after Katrina.  But I guess not.   They were really bad when they first moved and/or relocated here.  I had not heard anything about their activities for awhile.  But unfortunately they are still alive and kicking (kicking in peoples doors robbing and killing).

I live outside NO, and have heard many stories like this about evacuees causing problems there, I hadn't heard anything recently either, I thought they were cleaning up their acts, guess not. Many of the crminals have returned to NO, the rest I guess have set up shop elsewhere.  ::MonkeyNoNo:: I hope LE does take the seriously, this is at least the second time they have done this, the next time things may not have a good ending.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 11, 2009, 12:05:15 AM
Happy Mothers Day to all the Monkeys that are mothers.

I have a lot to be thankful for today.

Yesterday I worked all day as an alternate judge during our local election.

Got home last night, ate a bite or two, showered and went to bed. Thirty minutes or so later my phone rang.  I answered and it was my baby daughter who had just had just experienced a home invasion. 

The scum broke in, hit her in her mouth, grab her purse and ran out.  Thank God all he did was damaged her lip.  She can always replace a purse.  Her cell phone was in her purse.  Her sister and my grandson tried calling the cell phone and did not get a response until late this evening.

The response was:  Bit_ _es this is the way we do it in NO (New Orleans. This is what we do to Texas bamas.

I am very relieved and thankful that my daughter's life was spared, but I am so upset with these lowlife pieces of chit I could just spit nails right about now.

We also found out this evening that they had hit another apartment earlier yesterday and shot the occupant.

We spent the day moving my daughter out of her apartment.

God is good!



Heart,
So sorry about your Daughter hope all goes well. Glad to see you back here.
Hope everyone's Mother's Day was good.
Praying for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 11, 2009, 12:24:57 AM
I did this for Crystal for Mothers Day, so Crystal if your reading this, This is for you....Happy Mothers Day and I hope and pray that God will bring you your baby girl back soon.  Also if any of you monkeys are friends with her on myspace please feel free to send it to her.

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beautiful ! just beautiful!! xxxx

I sent this to her comments but then i emailed her and told her that scared monkeys all want to wish you a happy mother day and that one of the girls made this for her i hope that was ok

That was great, Thank you for doing that starcat   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 12:41:07 AM
Cobra wants to rent the MH, I wonder why. He says in case Haleigh wandered off and she wanders back ....... I wonder if he thinks he will find something in there or what. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 01:00:20 AM
I have a question to anyone who has listened to this interview. Did Cobra say that the AC man lived next door to Haleigh? That's the way I understood what he said, but I could be wrong. I know he said the police are keeping the information about the AC guy close, and aren't saying much about him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 11, 2009, 01:48:50 AM
I have a question to anyone who has listened to this interview. Did Cobra say that the AC man lived next door to Haleigh? That's the way I understood what he said, but I could be wrong. I know he said the police are keeping the information about the AC guy close, and aren't saying much about him.

I'm listening to it now and yes he did say the AC guy live in a trailer close by and that this guy wouldn't talk to him three times and said that he (cobra) passed him on to someone else. 
I am enjoying listening to this chat, I wish they would do this more often, like weekly.  It's the first time I've listened to blogtalkradio.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 11, 2009, 01:55:47 AM
I have a question to anyone who has listened to this interview. Did Cobra say that the AC man lived next door to Haleigh? That's the way I understood what he said, but I could be wrong. I know he said the police are keeping the information about the AC guy close, and aren't saying much about him.

Yes very interesting interview.. Cobra did state that the a/c lived in the next door trailor. We can trace that name From the property search records if he owned the trailor.. Time line that they can verify the last time haleight was seen is 3pm where Haleigh was seen with Misty and the children and other child named Austin also a Sapp guy.. Bus driver confirmed Misty picked up Haleigh @ the bus stop.. And apparently jr was used to putting  bricks to keep the door open.. I have to go back and listen about something about the tent issue. I got the impression Cobra did not believe the story about GGranny going to the home that night...

God Bless Haleigh..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 02:15:45 AM
Thanks for answering my husband was talking during that part and wasn't sure if I heard correctly.

JNGA - it was interesting, they did say they are hoping to do this again next week, not sure who they'll have on, but I'd listen again.

JerseyGirl - the tent thing .... the caller said that she read somewhere that someone went to Crystal's tent and was able to get a key from her to RC home.  ::MonkeyConfused:: the other day I came across this site, and I actually bookmarked  ::MonkeyHaHa:: I always forget to do that, anyway this comment was posted:

 Genva permalink

I heard the same things, the monies go to helping her and her young daughter stay in town. I don’t know how this is legal for her to do, cuz I know that when Jamie Watts( of Watts Funeral Home) set up an account to take donation for the father and young boy JR, The first account had to be closed and another opened due to Florida law stated that only those living in the home with the missing child (Haleigh Cummings)could be on the account. So Crystal’s name had to be removed cuz of the law. Also I know that law enforsement knew about the child support warrent, and the cousin of Crystal’s was hanging out with Misty, over the weekend that the mother Crystal had her visit w/ the childern. Now another quick note, I was at Ronald’s family tent early on when law enforsement stoped by asking for any key’s that was there for Ronald home. The grandmother handed over her copy, only to find out that the officer’s were mistake about which tent they were at. They believed that they were at the mother’s Crystal tent. And they stated the had gotten a tip the the mother (Crystal) had somehow gotten a key to the father (Ronald’s ) home. The grandmther told them that there were only 5 key made for the home. And that the mother should not have one. I never heard wether or not they found one on her. But they did later go get her figure prints and DNA.
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/

I am not sure if that is what the caller was talking about or not, but it does mention something about keys and Crystal's tent.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 02:29:04 AM
Here is an interesting comment left today at the site I posted above:

 William COBRA Staubs permalink

I sure do like this site. Fianlly some who ain’t scared to tell all. I do not work for KIM I brought her to the case…..and guess what? WHAT CASE? I am a profit C Corp and while i did offer the proper advice to Make this center Non Profit, today it remains PROFIT as far as I can see,,,for every one but me. Yes there was a sheet of expences and some say J.R. stole or miss apro. funds…I did not see that ever and i signed for every dollar HE gave me, some 600.00 or give or take. The 800.00 given last week is a farce and they know it. They want me to not look at certain folks. I was not looking at them for the abduction, rather Fitness as Parents..Isn’t it only fair to investigate Each Parent? My BOSS said look at everyone. Nobody has clean hands. IF THE SO CALLED CENTER THINKS THERE IS SOME SORT OF CONFLIT HERE>>SOON AS I CAN I WILL RETURN YOUR PURCHASE MONEY ROUNDED OFF SAY 750.00 AS A COBRA CANNOT BE BOUGHT….CHECK THE LAW lol

I do agree this does look like amature hour at the expence of HALEIGH, for that I am sorry for my part in all this bullshit. PLEASE SIGNAL LANE CHANGS LOL

 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 11, 2009, 02:44:20 AM
I think it would be great if cobra could rent that trailer.  He said 6000 a year, so I'm wondering if it is on a yearly lease.  Cobra should have been a comedian, I love his sense humor and I'm glad he still has it dealing with a case like this.   



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 04:57:55 AM
::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.

I am so sorry, Lilu.  I did not know.  Hugs to you, Mom!   :smt056

It is a tough day for too many, including our family.  It changes holidays forever.

Allow me to walk with you for awhile.

 :smt090  :smt090

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 05:06:07 AM
Happy Mothers Day to all the Monkeys that are mothers.

I have a lot to be thankful for today.

Yesterday I worked all day as an alternate judge during our local election.

Got home last night, ate a bite or two, showered and went to bed. Thirty minutes or so later my phone rang.  I answered and it was my baby daughter who had just had just experienced a home invasion. 

The scum broke in, hit her in her mouth, grab her purse and ran out.  Thank God all he did was damaged her lip.  She can always replace a purse.  Her cell phone was in her purse.  Her sister and my grandson tried calling the cell phone and did not get a response until late this evening.

The response was:  Bit_ _es this is the way we do it in NO (New Orleans. This is what we do to Texas bamas.

I am very relieved and thankful that my daughter's life was spared, but I am so upset with these lowlife pieces of chit I could just spit nails right about now.

We also found out this evening that they had hit another apartment earlier yesterday and shot the occupant.

We spent the day moving my daughter out of her apartment.

God is good!



OMG!!!   :smt103

I am so sorry and thankful at the same time.   ::MonkeyShocked:: ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 11, 2009, 08:25:27 AM
Heart...what a shock to read about that happening to your daughter! How awful for her and for you!
What is wrong with people nowadays??? Why don't these scumbags who rob innocent people get a job and earn their own way instead of stealing from others???

Sorry to hear that Heart but I am glad that she is ok!

o/t...anyone heard from Fatcat lately? I miss her...
And Searching must still be having computer problems....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: theboyzmom on May 11, 2009, 08:38:30 AM
Happy Mothers Day to all the Monkeys that are mothers.

I have a lot to be thankful for today.

Yesterday I worked all day as an alternate judge during our local election.

Got home last night, ate a bite or two, showered and went to bed. Thirty minutes or so later my phone rang.  I answered and it was my baby daughter who had just had just experienced a home invasion. 

The scum broke in, hit her in her mouth, grab her purse and ran out.  Thank God all he did was damaged her lip.  She can always replace a purse.  Her cell phone was in her purse.  Her sister and my grandson tried calling the cell phone and did not get a response until late this evening.

The response was:  Bit_ _es this is the way we do it in NO (New Orleans. This is what we do to Texas bamas.

I am very relieved and thankful that my daughter's life was spared, but I am so upset with these lowlife pieces of chit I could just spit nails right about now.

We also found out this evening that they had hit another apartment earlier yesterday and shot the occupant.

We spent the day moving my daughter out of her apartment.

God is good!



OMG! I am so glad she is ok. I also hope the next person these scum try to rob has a GUN and blows them away. Case closed!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 09:26:38 AM
Another interesting  comment from Cobra, this time on Art's site, he has another one on there further up. Sounds to me like KP and Crystal have some sort of issue with what Cobra has been doing, wonder what that is, and wonder why?:

#  William COBRA Staubs Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 4:12 am

I am humbled by your viewers ART. Some of them are a bit fisty, Please tell them that I do not work for Kim Or Crystal, I simply believed a story and put the best I could find at the time on it and I am sorry my choice has let us down, none the less…I still am and will continue to look for Haleigh as it appears she has lost her family. Signal Lane Change means just that, before we play bumper cars, folks should know their position and show respect to others. I am an investigator not a lawyer, Kim is a lawyer not an investigator, and folks should signal lane changes. If folks want to help me, do so, but don’t attach strings, please. I can not be purchased, I don’t sell out, better read up on me. Again Art, thank you and thank your kind viewers. Can you reveil the idenity of the haters? One of them may know something, else why go to so much trouble to hate.?? Lastly, a big thanks to BROWARD COUNTY BAIL BONDS for helping me as well as your viewers, THANK YOU ALL…..
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: theboyzmom on May 11, 2009, 09:28:09 AM
::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.

I am so sorry, Lilu.  I did not know.  Hugs to you, Mom!   :smt056

It is a tough day for too many, including our family.  It changes holidays forever.

Allow me to walk with you for awhile.

 :smt090  :smt090

 

Am am so sorry for both of you. Losing someone always makes holidays hard. {{{{{hugs}}}}}}


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 11, 2009, 09:46:14 AM
Heart, so sorry to here about what happened to your daughter, thank God she did not get hurt bad, I'm so sick of these criminals thinking they can just do whatever they want breaking into homes and cars. Where I live there has been quite a lot of destruction of people's cars, very upsetting.   Thanks for the link and comments from the latest article, all very interesting to say the least.  And to all the mothers who had a very hard day yesterday, because of a loss of a child or mother, I'm so sorry, and yes no holiday is ever the same, actually no day is ever the same again. ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 09:46:51 AM
Here is an interesting comment left today at the site I posted above:

 William COBRA Staubs permalink

I sure do like this site. Fianlly some who ain’t scared to tell all. I do not work for KIM I brought her to the case…..and guess what? WHAT CASE? I am a profit C Corp and while i did offer the proper advice to Make this center Non Profit, today it remains PROFIT as far as I can see,,,for every one but me. Yes there was a sheet of expences and some say J.R. stole or miss apro. funds…I did not see that ever and i signed for every dollar HE gave me, some 600.00 or give or take. The 800.00 given last week is a farce and they know it. They want me to not look at certain folks. I was not looking at them for the abduction, rather Fitness as Parents..Isn’t it only fair to investigate Each Parent? My BOSS said look at everyone. Nobody has clean hands. IF THE SO CALLED CENTER THINKS THERE IS SOME SORT OF CONFLIT HERE>>SOON AS I CAN I WILL RETURN YOUR PURCHASE MONEY ROUNDED OFF SAY 750.00 AS A COBRA CANNOT BE BOUGHT….CHECK THE LAW lol

I do agree this does look like amature hour at the expence of HALEIGH, for that I am sorry for my part in all this bullshit. PLEASE SIGNAL LANE CHANGS LOL

 ::MonkeyConfused::

This is the man who has set all the web sites up and I guess he is the one in charge..

Whois Record
Registrant:
   Jeremiah Regan
   100 s.e third ave
   ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
   United States

   Domain Name: HALEIGHBUG.COM
      Created on: 13-Mar-09
      Expires on: 13-Mar-11
      Last Updated on: 25-Mar-09

   Administrative Contact:
      Regan, Jeremiah 
      100 s.e third ave
      ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
      United States
     
   Technical Contact:
      Regan, Jeremiah 
      100 s.e third ave
      ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
      United States
     
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 09:47:02 AM
Good Morning all Monkeys and guests!

Thank all of you for your replies to my post regarding my daughter.

Yes, I am very grateful and relieved that all she sustained physically is a swollen mouth, stolen purse and cellphone.  It will take her some time to get over it mentally.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Dolce on May 11, 2009, 10:01:17 AM
Come on Monkeys!  Its another Monday, lets knock out this Larry King with the facts!!

Cram up his email with reasons WHY he should CANCEL the SCAM-thonys!!


http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.lkl.comment.html?12


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ONE VOICE FOR CAYLEE!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 10:01:33 AM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 11, 2009, 10:08:35 AM
Dolce...sent another email to LKL...wonder if it will be deleted like the rest... ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
Good Morning all Monkeys and guests!

Thank all of you for your replies to my post regarding my daughter.

Yes, I am very grateful and relieved that all she sustained physically is a swollen mouth, stolen purse and cellphone.  It will take her some time to get over it mentally.


So sorry your daughter had to go through this.. I know it will take sometime to feel safe again.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 10:36:48 AM
Here is an interesting comment left today at the site I posted above:

 William COBRA Staubs permalink

I sure do like this site. Fianlly some who ain’t scared to tell all. I do not work for KIM I brought her to the case…..and guess what? WHAT CASE? I am a profit C Corp and while i did offer the proper advice to Make this center Non Profit, today it remains PROFIT as far as I can see,,,for every one but me. Yes there was a sheet of expences and some say J.R. stole or miss apro. funds…I did not see that ever and i signed for every dollar HE gave me, some 600.00 or give or take. The 800.00 given last week is a farce and they know it. They want me to not look at certain folks. I was not looking at them for the abduction, rather Fitness as Parents..Isn’t it only fair to investigate Each Parent? My BOSS said look at everyone. Nobody has clean hands. IF THE SO CALLED CENTER THINKS THERE IS SOME SORT OF CONFLIT HERE>>SOON AS I CAN I WILL RETURN YOUR PURCHASE MONEY ROUNDED OFF SAY 750.00 AS A COBRA CANNOT BE BOUGHT….CHECK THE LAW lol

I do agree this does look like amature hour at the expence of HALEIGH, for that I am sorry for my part in all this bullshit. PLEASE SIGNAL LANE CHANGS LOL

 ::MonkeyConfused::

This is the man who has set all the web sites up and I guess he is the one in charge..

Whois Record
Registrant:
   Jeremiah Regan
   100 s.e third ave
   ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
   United States

   Domain Name: HALEIGHBUG.COM
      Created on: 13-Mar-09
      Expires on: 13-Mar-11
      Last Updated on: 25-Mar-09

   Administrative Contact:
      Regan, Jeremiah 
      100 s.e third ave
      ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
      United States
     
   Technical Contact:
      Regan, Jeremiah 
      100 s.e third ave
      ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
      United States
     
   

 He says he does not work for KP or Crystal, that site is the Haleighbug site, but he does mention JR and accusations of mishandling of funds.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Sounds like there is some issue with money being given to him by Crystal (?) and because of that he shouldn't investigate her, and he did?? I really dunno........ I think Grund may be his boss, he is the one who asked Cobra to look at the case, but if he is not getting paid, would he even have someone who is officially his "boss"?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 10:38:32 AM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 10:38:33 AM
Unrelated Palatka Florida arrest this morning:

JAMES  RONALD  BURKS
PALATKA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/10/2009 8:23:10 PM  - Booking#: 09-01906
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 11/28/1957 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
810.02-2a   BURGL WITH ASSAULT OR BATTERY   F   F    $0.00    
794.011-4   SEX ASSLT VICTIM 12 YOA OLDER SPECIAL CONDITIONS   F   F    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753987&IMG=57801


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 10:42:36 AM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

mlee those are Art Harris words.  See his post # 398 in response to one of his poster's by the screen name of llisa on his site:   http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 10:45:28 AM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

not Heart, but......
That was just a comment Heart brought over, it was posted on AH, a comment that Art wrote to answer a poster who asked a question, I think the question was why was Cobra badmouthing Crystal or something along those lines. and IA I think Cobra was sidestepping the question.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 10:53:59 AM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

mlee those are Art Harris words.  See his post # 398 in response to one of his poster's by the screen name of llisa on his site:   http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

I think he is wrong about her being ruled out as a suspect..  Also, I read somewhere this morning, have to go back and check it out.. that they had not really interviewed either Crystal or Chad. You know there is so much out there that its hard to determine what is and what isn't..  I listened to the radio interview, or at least half of it..  I think it may have been Art's opinion that they have been ruled out because they haven't been really interviewed, but I think LE has more going then they have released.  Especially, with their decision that it had to be family related or persons close to the family, they would have to be looking at both sides..  I think Art is of the opinion that Crystal had nothing to do with this..  We just have to wait and see.. eventually, someone is going to slip up, and the fireworks will begin. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Dolce on May 11, 2009, 11:44:37 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 11, 2009, 12:00:42 PM
::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.

I am so sorry for your loss lulu....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 11, 2009, 12:21:16 PM
Morning Monkeys.  I tried listening to the interview last night, but had seven puppies biting my ankles, a hungover husband that danced with me too much Saturday night (groaning on the couch and listening to the tv too loudly) a three year old that wanted to play on the computer and bump me off, and well...was it just me, or did you have a REALLY hard time getting past 1) the picture on the website threw me off, 2) WTH were those two women doing that were SUPPOSE to be on during the interview?  WTH is Pickles?  From BNN?  Was that a joke?

I ADORE COBRA, and am so grateful and thankful that he's there and looking.  (AT LEAST SOMEONE IS!!!!) I want to hear everything he says.  So if I try again, am I going to be able to get past the first five minutes?  And I want to know if we can set up an interview with him to ask questions.  Now that, my friends would be an I-N-T-E-R-V-I-E-W!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: momoftwins on May 11, 2009, 12:26:07 PM
Another interesting  comment from Cobra, this time on Art's site, he has another one on there further up. Sounds to me like KP and Crystal have some sort of issue with what Cobra has been doing, wonder what that is, and wonder why?:

#  William COBRA Staubs Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 4:12 am

I am humbled by your viewers ART. Some of them are a bit fisty, Please tell them that I do not work for Kim Or Crystal, I simply believed a story and put the best I could find at the time on it and I am sorry my choice has let us down, none the less…I still am and will continue to look for Haleigh as it appears she has lost her family. Signal Lane Change means just that, before we play bumper cars, folks should know their position and show respect to others. I am an investigator not a lawyer, Kim is a lawyer not an investigator, and folks should signal lane changes. If folks want to help me, do so, but don’t attach strings, please. I can not be purchased, I don’t sell out, better read up on me. Again Art, thank you and thank your kind viewers. Can you reveil the idenity of the haters? One of them may know something, else why go to so much trouble to hate.?? Lastly, a big thanks to BROWARD COUNTY BAIL BONDS for helping me as well as your viewers, THANK YOU ALL…..
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments
TY Ma posting that.  I was wondering if he was going to continue on.  I'm glad he appreciates those of us who have contributed to his efforts. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 12:36:47 PM
Morning Monkeys.  I tried listening to the interview last night, but had seven puppies biting my ankles, a hungover husband that danced with me too much Saturday night (groaning on the couch and listening to the tv too loudly) a three year old that wanted to play on the computer and bump me off, and well...was it just me, or did you have a REALLY hard time getting past 1) the picture on the website threw me off, 2) WTH were those two women doing that were SUPPOSE to be on during the interview?  WTH is Pickles?  From BNN?  Was that a joke?

I ADORE COBRA, and am so grateful and thankful that he's there and looking.  (AT LEAST SOMEONE IS!!!!) I want to hear everything he says.  So if I try again, am I going to be able to get past the first five minutes?  And I want to know if we can set up an interview with him to ask questions.  Now that, my friends would be an I-N-T-E-R-V-I-E-W!

Yes, it would be..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 11, 2009, 01:01:44 PM
O/T
Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 01:20:40 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?

Thunder Bunny ~  Good Afternoon...not sure which pop up blocker you are using, but in the IE..under tools there is a pop up blocker...to turn off/on. There are also settings to check out.  Maybe try this one. Hope it helps, as I know they are darn well annoying.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 01:29:51 PM
Morning Monkeys.  I tried listening to the interview last night, but had seven puppies biting my ankles, a hungover husband that danced with me too much Saturday night (groaning on the couch and listening to the tv too loudly) a three year old that wanted to play on the computer and bump me off, and well...was it just me, or did you have a REALLY hard time getting past 1) the picture on the website threw me off, 2) WTH were those two women doing that were SUPPOSE to be on during the interview?  WTH is Pickles?  From BNN?  Was that a joke?

I ADORE COBRA, and am so grateful and thankful that he's there and looking.  (AT LEAST SOMEONE IS!!!!) I want to hear everything he says.  So if I try again, am I going to be able to get past the first five minutes?  And I want to know if we can set up an interview with him to ask questions.  Now that, my friends would be an I-N-T-E-R-V-I-E-W!

I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 11, 2009, 01:31:35 PM
O/T
Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 01:33:42 PM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

mlee those are Art Harris words.  See his post # 398 in response to one of his poster's by the screen name of llisa on his site:   http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

I think he is wrong about her being ruled out as a suspect..  Also, I read somewhere this morning, have to go back and check it out.. that they had not really interviewed either Crystal or Chad. You know there is so much out there that its hard to determine what is and what isn't..  I listened to the radio interview, or at least half of it..  I think it may have been Art's opinion that they have been ruled out because they haven't been really interviewed, but I think LE has more going then they have released.  Especially, with their decision that it had to be family related or persons close to the family, they would have to be looking at both sides..  I think Art is of the opinion that Crystal had nothing to do with this..  We just have to wait and see.. eventually, someone is going to slip up, and the fireworks will begin. 

Yes mlee it was AH that said there has been no real investigation into Crystal and/or Chad, I hope this is incorrect. I personally don't think Crystal had anything to do with this, but it would be a very stupid move for LE to not examine every angle. AH says about the fact that Crystal and Chad have not been investigated to "read between the lines", if it's true that they have not been looked at, what I read in those lines is ...........STUPID.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 01:36:55 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 11, 2009, 01:43:07 PM
O/T
Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 
I just hate to put anything more on the puter , slow enough already .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 11, 2009, 01:45:58 PM
Besides , Ain't no big deal , It  pays for this monkey site >


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
Heart I think it was you who was wondering where Lisa Brooks is ....... according to someone on another site..... she is in Virginia, she left about a month ago.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 11, 2009, 01:50:06 PM
HEART..I just got on and saw about your daughter. I'm so sorry and grateful that she is o.k. physically. It make take a lil time mentally, poor girl. My prayers are with you and her. That is every mother's nightmare. I will keep her in my prayers.

Klaas, can you please put my new pic up Brandi made for me . It's a Fourth of July with a sparkly bow. Thank You.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 01:53:20 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 
I just hate to put anything more on the puter , slow enough already .

alagary ~  There is no need to download anything. This is part of your Internet Explorer Web browser...check under TOOLS.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:10:15 PM
::MonkeyAngel::
Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers here!  I got my phone call...from the oldest,  and thought about the youngest I lost all day.  Holidays...no matter which ones can be hard,  am thinking of Crystal today,  also Sandra Cantu's mother...Natalee's Mother...sometimes the best Mother's day for me is forgetting it is Mother's day. 

Wish there was news..
God bless Haleigh.

I am so sorry, Lilu.  I did not know.  Hugs to you, Mom!   :smt056

It is a tough day for too many, including our family.  It changes holidays forever.

Allow me to walk with you for awhile.

 :smt090  :smt090

 

Am am so sorry for both of you. Losing someone always makes holidays hard. {{{{{hugs}}}}}}

Thanks, Mom!  Those hugs really helped.  Hugs back to you.

          :smt057







Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 11, 2009, 02:10:45 PM
Dang it ! Thanks granmamonkey . Instant fix . now whats this F1 do ? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
Heart, so sorry to here about what happened to your daughter, thank God she did not get hurt bad, I'm so sick of these criminals thinking they can just do whatever they want breaking into homes and cars. Where I live there has been quite a lot of destruction of people's cars, very upsetting.   Thanks for the link and comments from the latest article, all very interesting to say the least.  And to all the mothers who had a very hard day yesterday, because of a loss of a child or mother, I'm so sorry, and yes no holiday is ever the same, actually no day is ever the same again. ::MonkeyWaa::

You are correct, but with the help of friends and family, they are different and love and caring can make them special again.  There is also comfort in knowing your loved one is forever away from harm and spending the holiday in the palm of the hand of our maker.  The feeling of loss is ours alone.

Thanks, NoRo.  Hugs to you, hon.

 :smt058



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 11, 2009, 02:15:03 PM
HEART..I just got on and saw about your daughter. I'm so sorry and grateful that she is o.k. physically. It make take a lil time mentally, poor girl. My prayers are with you and her. That is every mother's nightmare. I will keep her in my prayers.

Klaas, can you please put my new pic up Brandi made for me . It's a Fourth of July with a sparkly bow. Thank You.

The BNN interview by Simon Barrett is over an hour. I have listened to 25 minutes so far. Had to take a little break. It's interesting, but not earth-shaking so far.

Heart, so sorry about your daughter. Glad it wasn't worse.

Thunder Bunny and alagary, Firefox with adblocker plus addon works perfectly and does not slow down your computer. I believe it makes it faster, by not having to load all the ads.

rosebud, I will email Klaas right now about your request.

I heard Art Harris say in the Simon Barrett interview that, "No formal investigation" has been done by LE of Crystal and Chad. I am not sure what he meant by that. I do believe that Crystal was polygraphed. That isn't a formal investigation?

Anyway, going back to listen to some more of the interview, found here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony






Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:18:45 PM
Good Morning all Monkeys and guests!

Thank all of you for your replies to my post regarding my daughter.

Yes, I am very grateful and relieved that all she sustained physically is a swollen mouth, stolen purse and cellphone.  It will take her some time to get over it mentally.


Yes, as I thought more about it through the night, I realized the mental trauma is cruelty in itself.  I hope she gets help for this right away and that scar will heal soon.  I am praying for sunnier days for her and your family.

 :flower: :flower: :flower:





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 11, 2009, 02:19:21 PM
I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!

EXACTLY!  Trying to talk about a little girl that was missing, the LEAST she could do would be to pay attention and sound halfway sober. (I'm not saying she was anything, but PAY ATTENTION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)  I was dismayed that for such a serious subject, it was almost like a joke at the beginning and the only part I've tried to listen to.  Therefore, I vote we figure out how to interview Cobra, and show them how's it done. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:21:52 PM
Here is an interesting comment left today at the site I posted above:

 William COBRA Staubs permalink

I sure do like this site. Fianlly some who ain’t scared to tell all. I do not work for KIM I brought her to the case…..and guess what? WHAT CASE? I am a profit C Corp and while i did offer the proper advice to Make this center Non Profit, today it remains PROFIT as far as I can see,,,for every one but me. Yes there was a sheet of expences and some say J.R. stole or miss apro. funds…I did not see that ever and i signed for every dollar HE gave me, some 600.00 or give or take. The 800.00 given last week is a farce and they know it. They want me to not look at certain folks. I was not looking at them for the abduction, rather Fitness as Parents..Isn’t it only fair to investigate Each Parent? My BOSS said look at everyone. Nobody has clean hands. IF THE SO CALLED CENTER THINKS THERE IS SOME SORT OF CONFLIT HERE>>SOON AS I CAN I WILL RETURN YOUR PURCHASE MONEY ROUNDED OFF SAY 750.00 AS A COBRA CANNOT BE BOUGHT….CHECK THE LAW lol

I do agree this does look like amature hour at the expence of HALEIGH, for that I am sorry for my part in all this bullshit. PLEASE SIGNAL LANE CHANGS LOL

 ::MonkeyConfused::

This is the man who has set all the web sites up and I guess he is the one in charge..

Whois Record
Registrant:
   Jeremiah Regan
   100 s.e third ave
   ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
   United States

   Domain Name: HALEIGHBUG.COM
      Created on: 13-Mar-09
      Expires on: 13-Mar-11
      Last Updated on: 25-Mar-09

   Administrative Contact:
      Regan, Jeremiah 
      100 s.e third ave
      ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
      United States
     
   Technical Contact:
      Regan, Jeremiah 
      100 s.e third ave
      ft. lauderdale, Florida 33394
      United States
     
   

 He says he does not work for KP or Crystal, that site is the Haleighbug site, but he does mention JR and accusations of mishandling of funds.  ::MonkeyConfused:: Sounds like there is some issue with money being given to him by Crystal (?) and because of that he shouldn't investigate her, and he did?? I really dunno........ I think Grund may be his boss, he is the one who asked Cobra to look at the case, but if he is not getting paid, would he even have someone who is officially his "boss"?

I consider Klaas and Red my bosses and they do not get paid, nor do I.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:23:29 PM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

Mlee, that is what I got from that also.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:27:58 PM
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For those who have that picky email type programs... here are the emails in the format that you have to do is copy and paste:

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Nothing else needed on those, just copy and paste to your "To" section of your email.

PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES ABOVE AND SHOOT OUT AN EMAIL OF YOUR DISGUST FOR THEIR SPONSORSHIP OF THE ANTHONYS!

Thanks, Dolce.  Nice work.  The babies must be helping you.  You are a trio, like the Trinity.

 :smt055 :smt055 :smt055



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 11, 2009, 02:33:03 PM
Morning Monkeys.  I tried listening to the interview last night, but had seven puppies biting my ankles, a hungover husband that danced with me too much Saturday night (groaning on the couch and listening to the tv too loudly) a three year old that wanted to play on the computer and bump me off, and well...was it just me, or did you have a REALLY hard time getting past 1) the picture on the website threw me off, 2) WTH were those two women doing that were SUPPOSE to be on during the interview?  WTH is Pickles?  From BNN?  Was that a joke?

I ADORE COBRA, and am so grateful and thankful that he's there and looking.  (AT LEAST SOMEONE IS!!!!) I want to hear everything he says.  So if I try again, am I going to be able to get past the first five minutes?  And I want to know if we can set up an interview with him to ask questions.  Now that, my friends would be an I-N-T-E-R-V-I-E-W!

I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!

Me too.  I have never had a problem with Firefox and Adblock Plus which is continuously updated.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TxLady2 on May 11, 2009, 03:05:11 PM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

mlee those are Art Harris words.  See his post # 398 in response to one of his poster's by the screen name of llisa on his site:   http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

I think he is wrong about her being ruled out as a suspect..  Also, I read somewhere this morning, have to go back and check it out.. that they had not really interviewed either Crystal or Chad. You know there is so much out there that its hard to determine what is and what isn't..  I listened to the radio interview, or at least half of it..  I think it may have been Art's opinion that they have been ruled out because they haven't been really interviewed, but I think LE has more going then they have released.  Especially, with their decision that it had to be family related or persons close to the family, they would have to be looking at both sides..  I think Art is of the opinion that Crystal had nothing to do with this..  We just have to wait and see.. eventually, someone is going to slip up, and the fireworks will begin. 

Hi, mlee. I believe he used the word investigated... not interviewed. I believe they were both interviewed, also that Crystal took a LDT, but not sure about Chad. By rights, they should both be investigated so they can be ruled out. If they did not at least question them, then they dropped the ball. But I have to believe that every family member was questioned at some point.

Also, just a general note: regarding Crystal's and Marie's house not being searched. Putnam Co. would not have the jurisdiction to conduct a search in Baker Co. They would more than likely pass that off to LE there. So Kim's statement that their houses were not searched is at least partially correct. Baker Co. may have done the search with Putnam's cooperation or assistance. And if none of them did... then there should be a good reason not to.... because the non-custodial parent is always the first one they look at, in my neck of the woods.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 03:43:18 PM
Heart I think it was you who was wondering where Lisa Brooks is ....... according to someone on another site..... she is in Virginia, she left about a month ago.

Thanks for the info Maven!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 03:57:32 PM
Heart I think it was you who was wondering where Lisa Brooks is ....... according to someone on another site..... she is in Virginia, she left about a month ago.

|
#32267 someone important posted:

Jacksonville, FL
|#498 Feb 22, 2009
guy sapp is my grandfather who co-signed for me to buy my house on tyler st. donald sapp is not related to us. isn't this supposed to be about haleigh not about who is related to who. guy sapp is a retired property appraiser of flagler county and has never even met haleigh. the a/c guy has been checked out and was supposed to be at the house on green lane. i wish people would just leave both sides of the family alone and focus on bringing haleigh home. thanks lindsy croslin

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post32267

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/south-flori ...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 04:45:30 PM
Heart I think it was you who was wondering where Lisa Brooks is ....... according to someone on another site..... she is in Virginia, she left about a month ago.

|
#32267 someone important posted:

Jacksonville, FL
|#498 Feb 22, 2009
guy sapp is my grandfather who co-signed for me to buy my house on tyler st. donald sapp is not related to us. isn't this supposed to be about haleigh not about who is related to who. guy sapp is a retired property appraiser of flagler county and has never even met haleigh. the a/c guy has been checked out and was supposed to be at the house on green lane. i wish people would just leave both sides of the family alone and focus on bringing haleigh home. thanks lindsy croslin

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post32267

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/south-flori ...

Interesting ...... thanks Heart! So... Donald Sapp is not related, but according to Cobra he heard that DS was there that afternoon watching Haleigh and the other children playing on a trampoline.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 04:52:24 PM
Heart I think it was you who was wondering where Lisa Brooks is ....... according to someone on another site..... she is in Virginia, she left about a month ago.

|
#32267 someone important posted:

Jacksonville, FL
|#498 Feb 22, 2009
guy sapp is my grandfather who co-signed for me to buy my house on tyler st. donald sapp is not related to us. isn't this supposed to be about haleigh not about who is related to who. guy sapp is a retired property appraiser of flagler county and has never even met haleigh. the a/c guy has been checked out and was supposed to be at the house on green lane. i wish people would just leave both sides of the family alone and focus on bringing haleigh home. thanks lindsy croslin

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post32267

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/south-flori ...

I didn't realize she labeled HERself as someone important  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I just went and saw the comment.  ::MonkeyRoll:: If police are saying that this was not a stranger abduction, then wouldn't looking at all family members/friends be the way to find Haleigh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 05:14:41 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?

Been running around today sug... now I have those ads too even with the popup blocker going, you really can't stop them, but make sure your popup blocker is still going..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
Heart I think it was you who was wondering where Lisa Brooks is ....... according to someone on another site..... she is in Virginia, she left about a month ago.

|
#32267 someone important posted:

Jacksonville, FL
|#498 Feb 22, 2009
guy sapp is my grandfather who co-signed for me to buy my house on tyler st. donald sapp is not related to us. isn't this supposed to be about haleigh not about who is related to who. guy sapp is a retired property appraiser of flagler county and has never even met haleigh. the a/c guy has been checked out and was supposed to be at the house on green lane. i wish people would just leave both sides of the family alone and focus on bringing haleigh home. thanks lindsy croslin

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/satsuma-fl/T52VIGA63OER7TOO7/post32267

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/south-flori ...

I didn't realize she labeled HERself as someone important  ::MonkeyLaugh:: I just went and saw the comment.  ::MonkeyRoll:: If police are saying that this was not a stranger abduction, then wouldn't looking at all family members/friends be the way to find Haleigh?

Yes Mam your right..  Maybe she should call her sister in law and say " Hey Short Elevator, get your story straight"..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 05:21:42 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
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alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 

Well Grama you fixed me too.. I had my settings on Custom and the popups were driving me crazy too.. Thanks.. good to see you.. been busy today?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 05:26:33 PM
HEART..I just got on and saw about your daughter. I'm so sorry and grateful that she is o.k. physically. It make take a lil time mentally, poor girl. My prayers are with you and her. That is every mother's nightmare. I will keep her in my prayers.

Klaas, can you please put my new pic up Brandi made for me . It's a Fourth of July with a sparkly bow. Thank You.

The BNN interview by Simon Barrett is over an hour. I have listened to 25 minutes so far. Had to take a little break. It's interesting, but not earth-shaking so far.

Heart, so sorry about your daughter. Glad it wasn't worse.

Thunder Bunny and alagary, Firefox with adblocker plus addon works perfectly and does not slow down your computer. I believe it makes it faster, by not having to load all the ads.

rosebud, I will email Klaas right now about your request.

I heard Art Harris say in the Simon Barrett interview that, "No formal investigation" has been done by LE of Crystal and Chad. I am not sure what he meant by that. I do believe that Crystal was polygraphed. That isn't a formal investigation?

Anyway, going back to listen to some more of the interview, found here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/10/Haleigh-Cummings-Caylee-Anthony






Brandy, I heard the same thing, and questions marks came flashing.. I know she took a poly, she said in one of her interviews that they had Polygraphed her, when ask if she passed.. she said, I don't know, they told me they were going to have to send it to Washington..   I guess to the FBI.... I don't know....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 05:34:12 PM
#398  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 7:12 am

llisa:

Go back and read the Q and A: asked if crysal’s hands were clean, he replied “nobody’s hands are clean…” So he’s telling me it was ambiguous enough to not be accusing Crystal of anything, especially arranging to have her own child snatched. That theory has been rueld out by LE.

 http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Heart, where did you read that LE had ruled out the theory of Crystal being involved in Haleigh's missing?   I have not seen anything like that.. I know they have ruled out a stranger abduction, and decided it had to be family or persons close to the family..  Which means they would have to be looking at both sides of the familes..   And I think that Cobra was side stepping the question, he did not want to go on the record giving an opinion one way or the other.

mlee those are Art Harris words.  See his post # 398 in response to one of his poster's by the screen name of llisa on his site:   http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

I think he is wrong about her being ruled out as a suspect..  Also, I read somewhere this morning, have to go back and check it out.. that they had not really interviewed either Crystal or Chad. You know there is so much out there that its hard to determine what is and what isn't..  I listened to the radio interview, or at least half of it..  I think it may have been Art's opinion that they have been ruled out because they haven't been really interviewed, but I think LE has more going then they have released.  Especially, with their decision that it had to be family related or persons close to the family, they would have to be looking at both sides..  I think Art is of the opinion that Crystal had nothing to do with this..  We just have to wait and see.. eventually, someone is going to slip up, and the fireworks will begin. 

Hi, mlee. I believe he used the word investigated... not interviewed. I believe they were both interviewed, also that Crystal took a LDT, but not sure about Chad. By rights, they should both be investigated so they can be ruled out. If they did not at least question them, then they dropped the ball. But I have to believe that every family member was questioned at some point.

Also, just a general note: regarding Crystal's and Marie's house not being searched. Putnam Co. would not have the jurisdiction to conduct a search in Baker Co. They would more than likely pass that off to LE there. So Kim's statement that their houses were not searched is at least partially correct. Baker Co. may have done the search with Putnam's cooperation or assistance. And if none of them did... then there should be a good reason not to.... because the non-custodial parent is always the first one they look at, in my neck of the woods.


I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 05:50:13 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 06:14:40 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 

Well Grama you fixed me too.. I had my settings on Custom and the popups were driving me crazy too.. Thanks.. good to see you.. been busy today?

Ummmm.....yes, work, and yes busy.  alagary questioned the key ... F 1... It brings up he help menu in my windows...vista.  Once it is up you can check out, as other programs also use that key.  It is a shortcut key, without using your mouse.

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 11, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 

Well Grama you fixed me too.. I had my settings on Custom and the popups were driving me crazy too.. Thanks.. good to see you.. been busy today?

Ummmm.....yes, work, and yes busy.  alagary questioned the key ... F 1... It brings up he help menu in my windows...vista.  Once it is up you can check out, as other programs also use that key.  It is a shortcut key, without using your mouse.

 
Was only a joke Gramamonkey about how computer stupid I am . Sorry if it came out wrong .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 06:33:48 PM
We all have been surfing the net, reading news, other bloggers comments, Art Harris' site of comments, comments heard by Cobra during his interview.

LE is keeping tight lips on their investigation.  They are doing that obviously for many reasons.  What we hear from others, like...maybe they did...or maybe they didn't ...or they could also be...and it goes on and on and on.

Cobra, Art and the rest of the news sites ARE NOT going to GIVE OUT information pertaining to the investigation that LE is keeping close to their belts.

They are trying to keep the public and news sites updated, which is just great, as everyone looks for updates.  But, sometimes their choice of words, leaves the comment WIDE OPEN and some read into it more than others. 

Maybe he did....then they run with the fact...OH Ron most likely hit Haleigh, cause Cobra said...maybe he did.  He didn't say NO he didn't.  Do you see what I am getting at.  Cobra doesn't know from Adam whether this happened or it didn't ...as he was not there. (previous sentences were FOR EXAMPLE ONLY!!)  There are some that Cobra & Art make, that sure they were there, but do you actually think they are going to give all of the DETAILS...as to why, who, etc..  NO they are not...as this is AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.

Have any of you noticed, that they do not give DIRECT ANSWERS.  They try to answer the best of their ability, however, at the same time NOT releasing LE investigative INFO.

I have listened to the BNN broadcast last night.  Pickles....hmmm...not sure if dill, kosher, sliced or hot.  But I agree, not sure why she was there....but she is on all of the broadcasts along with his wife Jan.  They both could very well stay home in bed for all that they contribute.  But, incase noone phones in..at least Barrett has someone to chat with....JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 06:37:42 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?
Lawd knows ! I ain't found one yet . ::MonkeyLaugh::


alagary ~  I am on the work computer and have the pop up blocker set to Medium, and I am not getting ANY pop ups off of this site. 

Well Grama you fixed me too.. I had my settings on Custom and the popups were driving me crazy too.. Thanks.. good to see you.. been busy today?

Ummmm.....yes, work, and yes busy.  alagary questioned the key ... F 1... It brings up he help menu in my windows...vista.  Once it is up you can check out, as other programs also use that key.  It is a shortcut key, without using your mouse.

 
Was only a joke Gramamonkey about how computer stupid I am . Sorry if it came out wrong .

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  I try to answer questions directed to me.... ::MonkeyHaHa:: not knowing who is on the other end, maybe they do not know what the F1 key is.  So...we can all have a good MONKEY LAUGH OVER THIS.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 06:40:40 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 07:25:18 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 

I read that too Grama, and something about Marie did not want Crystal to drive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 11, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
Brandi and Klaas, thank you for putting my lady up for me. I appreciate your help. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
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Mlee, where have you been?  I've missed your funny little glasses! 
You guys please help!!  My pop up blocker WILL not block the optimized ads that pop up on every page I try to go to at this site, and gawd forbid if I accidently click on a wrong spot...it opens a hundred blank pages.  Any good suggestions for a new blocker that might fix this for me?

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 11, 2009, 07:51:47 PM
Brandi and Klaas, thank you for putting my lady up for me. I appreciate your help. ::MonkeyHaHa::
You look lovely rosebud  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 11, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
Brandi and Klaas, thank you for putting my lady up for me. I appreciate your help. ::MonkeyHaHa::

You're welcome. I emailed Klaas and she made the change for you.

If you ever want to change again, please go to my avatar thread and post there about it. ;-)

I try to keep avatar talk out of the missing persons' threads.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 07:56:15 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 

If she was in doubt,  why didn't she call the LE, they would have told her that it was not made up, I don't quite understand where her mind set was..  That doesn't make sense to me..  I don't dare say what I'm thinking..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 07:59:57 PM
Would the real RICHARD  ALLEN  LEBLANC please stand up?

RICHARD  ALLEN  LEBLANC
PALMCOAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/11/2009 4:24:37 PM  - Booking#: 09-01919
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 4/23/1987 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
                $1,512.00    


RICHARD  ALLEN  LEBLANC
PALMCOAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/11/2009 4:24:37 PM  - Booking#: 09-01919
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 4/23/1987 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
                $1,512.00    




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 11, 2009, 08:03:30 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 

If she was in doubt,  why didn't she call the LE, they would have told her that it was not made up, I don't quite understand where her mind set was..  That doesn't make sense to me..  I don't dare say what I'm thinking..

I am wondering if Crystal had a car and/or a driver's license in Feb. when Haleigh went missing. She may have had no transportation. That would not have stopped me, though. I'd have gotten there right away by any means possible.

Just offering a possible explanation. I am not even sure how long it was until Crystal arrived on the scene, myself. I remember her telling someone what time she got there on the air. I am just not sure what interview that was.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 08:10:32 PM
Would the real RICHARD  ALLEN  LEBLANC please stand up?

RICHARD  ALLEN  LEBLANC
PALMCOAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/11/2009 4:24:37 PM  - Booking#: 09-01919
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 4/23/1987 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
                $1,512.00    


RICHARD  ALLEN  LEBLANC
PALMCOAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/11/2009 4:24:37 PM  - Booking#: 09-01919
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 4/23/1987 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
948.06-   948.06-   N   N    $504.00    
                $1,512.00    




 ::MonkeyEek:: I wonder if it's father and son? I see one is out already, one has a D.O.B of 4/23/1987 and the other 12/26/1965....actually on second thought I think it's just a mistake. The older one had prob violation as charges and the younger has the just the number.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 08:20:15 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 

If she was in doubt,  why didn't she call the LE, they would have told her that it was not made up, I don't quite understand where her mind set was..  That doesn't make sense to me..  I don't dare say what I'm thinking..

I am wondering if Crystal had a car and/or a driver's license in Feb. when Haleigh went missing. She may have had no transportation. That would not have stopped me, though. I'd have gotten there right away by any means possible.

Just offering a possible explanation. I am not even sure how long it was until Crystal arrived on the scene, myself. I remember her telling someone what time she got there on the air. I am just not sure what interview that was.


I agree on finding a way,  why would Chad have brought her..  He is going to be the kids step Dad.. I will go back through the interviews and see what I can come up with.  There is another issue that I read about today, that someone needed a key to get into the trailer, believe it was LE, and they got a spare key from Maria.. Who was not suppose to have a key.. it was stated that ron's family members stated there were only 5 keys, and no one knew how Maria got the key....  not that is very questionable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 08:51:06 PM
Here is the link..
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 09:01:16 PM
Here is the link..
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


I saw that last night, there are a few interesting comments on that site by the poster that wrote that. I don't know if Crystal really did have a key or not, neither did that poster, she was just repeating a rumor. I wonder who tipped LE off to make them think that Crystal had a key anyway.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 09:17:10 PM
Here is the link..
http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


I saw that last night, there are a few interesting comments on that site by the poster that wrote that. I don't know if Crystal really did have a key or not, neither did that poster, she was just repeating a rumor. I wonder who tipped LE off to make them think that Crystal had a key anyway.

I don't know, this was the first I had heard of this..  just never know what your going to find out there, in rumor world..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
#423  Art Harris Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

Rainy–Happy to entertain your reporting if you can tell me who told you what and we can see if it jives with what they’ve told me…Officially, you are right, no one has been ruled out. Unofficially, investigators have priorities, like plugging mystery timelines of folks who were at, visited or were supposed to be in the trailer, and anyone who had close ties to those people…


#425  Art Harris Says:

May 11th, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Rose: Right on! Shake up everyone and let the chips! We agree…I’m told where investigators are focusing, but there are indeed peripheral characters who also need to be checked out, and they are doing that. How would you light that fire, Rose?

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 11, 2009, 09:36:17 PM
I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!

EXACTLY!  Trying to talk about a little girl that was missing, the LEAST she could do would be to pay attention and sound halfway sober. (I'm not saying she was anything, but PAY ATTENTION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)  I was dismayed that for such a serious subject, it was almost like a joke at the beginning and the only part I've tried to listen to.  Therefore, I vote we figure out how to interview Cobra , and show them how's it done. 

I'm with you :)  I say monkeys need to leave comments to him on Art Harris, because I believe he reads there and invite him to become a monkey and if he does, start a new thread titled   COBRA    and it will be his thread where we can ask him questions and he can ask us questions.  What do yall think?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 09:41:11 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 

If she was in doubt,  why didn't she call the LE, they would have told her that it was not made up, I don't quite understand where her mind set was..  That doesn't make sense to me..  I don't dare say what I'm thinking..

I am wondering if Crystal had a car and/or a driver's license in Feb. when Haleigh went missing. She may have had no transportation. That would not have stopped me, though. I'd have gotten there right away by any means possible.

Just offering a possible explanation. I am not even sure how long it was until Crystal arrived on the scene, myself. I remember her telling someone what time she got there on the air. I am just not sure what interview that was.


I agree on finding a way,  why would Chad have brought her..  He is going to be the kids step Dad.. I will go back through the interviews and see what I can come up with.  There is another issue that I read about today, that someone needed a key to get into the trailer, believe it was LE, and they got a spare key from Maria.. Who was not suppose to have a key.. it was stated that ron's family members stated there were only 5 keys, and no one knew how Maria got the key....  not that is very questionable.

5 keys???  What was he running???  That sounds abit absurd, don't ya think???  I remember reading that even Misty didn't have a key.  So, Ron, GN, GGS..that is 3.  And yet, the door had been propped open!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 09:52:14 PM

5 keys???  What was he running???  That sounds abit absurd, don't ya think???  I remember reading that even Misty didn't have a key.  So, Ron, GN, GGS..that is 3.  And yet, the door had been propped open!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is a lot of keys, can't imagine who would have gotten the other ones. I don't think I've heard Misty definitely didn't have a key, but I have wondered about that, with the back door propped open. I wonder did they have one hidden outside in case one got lost/forgotten? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 11, 2009, 09:55:36 PM
If your grand child was missing, would you finish your bus route before you left town? If that really did happen with Marie..who knows...does anyone have a link to when Crystal actually arrived there? and yes, why didn't Chad take Crystal down to Satsuma? or did he? I would drop whatever I was doing and head on out to start looking for my grand child/kid....I do remember reading that Crystal did call around to see if it was really true which I thought was really odd...get in your car and make your calls while you were riding...?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 10:24:22 PM
If your grand child was missing, would you finish your bus route before you left town? If that really did happen with Marie..who knows...does anyone have a link to when Crystal actually arrived there? and yes, why didn't Chad take Crystal down to Satsuma? or did he? I would drop whatever I was doing and head on out to start looking for my grand child/kid....I do remember reading that Crystal did call around to see if it was really true which I thought was really odd...get in your car and make your calls while you were riding...?

I have been looking for an article or something from the press on when she got there, I haven't found anything yet. So far all accounts of her getting there that I know of have been from posters on various forums. and No I would not have finished my bus route.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 10:25:39 PM

I agree, I don't believe I have read anything on Chad.. he seems to stay completely out of the limelight..  Even though ron has been interviewed, checked out and taken a poly.. he hasn't been cleared.. and of course, short elevator, anyone ever believing she had been cleared needs to buy a wooden nickel..  Since they came back with their primary direction of investigation, with the believe its family or person close to family that should reverse everything and Crystal should be back under the microscope, if not right now, it will come.  You know they can have a search warrant issued and go to the SO in her County, I am pretty sure the Sheriff would co-operate and there would be a search of her home.  I found a bit of varying commentaries today on several other sites.. One was talking about Crystal not arriving in Satsuma until 7 hours after she had been notified of Haleigh's missing..  I had not heard that before, I can't imagine she didn't jump up in the middle of the night and race over there. 7 hours.. thats along time.

Yes mlee I have seen comments that say she did not get there for 7 hours, but others challenge that and say it didn't take her that long, some claim to have asked KP and that she told them that is not true, some say they asked and were told it was 7 hours .....clear as mud. If it did take 7 hours for her to get there .... that's a very long time, and I would have to wonder why it took so long.

I had read that once Crystal was notified, she proceeded to contact some to verify this.  I do believe I had heard that she waited until Marie had completed her bus run before she left for Satsuma. 

If she was in doubt,  why didn't she call the LE, they would have told her that it was not made up, I don't quite understand where her mind set was..  That doesn't make sense to me..  I don't dare say what I'm thinking..

I am wondering if Crystal had a car and/or a driver's license in Feb. when Haleigh went missing. She may have had no transportation. That would not have stopped me, though. I'd have gotten there right away by any means possible.

Just offering a possible explanation. I am not even sure how long it was until Crystal arrived on the scene, myself. I remember her telling someone what time she got there on the air. I am just not sure what interview that was.


I agree on finding a way,  why would Chad have brought her..  He is going to be the kids step Dad.. I will go back through the interviews and see what I can come up with.  There is another issue that I read about today, that someone needed a key to get into the trailer, believe it was LE, and they got a spare key from Maria.. Who was not suppose to have a key.. it was stated that ron's family members stated there were only 5 keys, and no one knew how Maria got the key....  not that is very questionable.

5 keys???  What was he running???  That sounds abit absurd, don't ya think???  I remember reading that even Misty didn't have a key.  So, Ron, GN, GGS..that is 3.  And yet, the door had been propped open!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I had sent this to you...


"I heard the same things, the monies go to helping her and her young daughter stay in town. I don’t know how this is legal for her to do, cuz I know that when Jamie Watts( of Watts Funeral Home) set up an account to take donation for the father and young boy JR, The first account had to be closed and another opened due to Florida law stated that only those living in the home with the missing child (Haleigh Cummings)could be on the account. So Crystal’s name had to be removed cuz of the law. Also I know that law enforsement knew about the child support warrent, and the cousin of Crystal’s was hanging out with Misty, over the weekend that the mother Crystal had her visit w/ the childern. Now another quick note, I was at Ronald’s family tent early on when law enforsement stoped by asking for any key’s that was there for Ronald home. The grandmother handed over her copy, only to find out that the officer’s were mistake about which tent they were at. They believed that they were at the mother’s Crystal tent. And they stated the had gotten a tip the the mother (Crystal) had somehow gotten a key to the father (Ronald’s ) home. The grandmther told them that there were only 5 key made for the home. And that the mother should not have one. I never heard wether or not they found one on her. But they did later go get her figure prints and DNA."

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 10:29:48 PM
I was wrong about gettng it from Maria, but when you read it you realize that the Le officer thought he was at crystal's tent looking for a key.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 10:37:05 PM
I was wrong about gettng it from Maria, but when you read it you realize that the Le officer thought he was at crystal's tent looking for a key.

Yes, I had to read it 2 times, to get the drift of what they meant. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 11, 2009, 10:45:46 PM
I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!

EXACTLY!  Trying to talk about a little girl that was missing, the LEAST she could do would be to pay attention and sound halfway sober. (I'm not saying she was anything, but PAY ATTENTION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)  I was dismayed that for such a serious subject, it was almost like a joke at the beginning and the only part I've tried to listen to.  Therefore, I vote we figure out how to interview Cobra , and show them how's it done. 

I'm with you :)  I say monkeys need to leave comments to him on Art Harris, because I believe he reads there and invite him to become a monkey and if he does, start a new thread titled   COBRA    and it will be his thread where we can ask him questions and he can ask us questions.  What do yall think?

Don't give up hope.. I found him posting on both Art Harris page, and the one I was just milling in.  He might just be headed this way.....

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 11, 2009, 10:51:15 PM
Goodnight all!

Hopefully we will receive good news to tomorrow regarding


::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyAngel:: Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 11, 2009, 10:57:18 PM
I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!

EXACTLY!  Trying to talk about a little girl that was missing, the LEAST she could do would be to pay attention and sound halfway sober. (I'm not saying she was anything, but PAY ATTENTION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)  I was dismayed that for such a serious subject, it was almost like a joke at the beginning and the only part I've tried to listen to.  Therefore, I vote we figure out how to interview Cobra , and show them how's it done. 

I'm with you :)  I say monkeys need to leave comments to him on Art Harris, because I believe he reads there and invite him to become a monkey and if he does, start a new thread titled   COBRA    and it will be his thread where we can ask him questions and he can ask us questions.  What do yall think?

Don't give up hope.. I found him posting on both Art Harris page, and the one I was just milling in.  He might just be headed this way.....

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


I don't know if this is possible or how it would be arranged.  But, remember Leonard Padilla would go on UStream and have a live chat.  The questions were forwarded to him and then he would answer them on the air.

Maybe this is something that Cobra can do.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 11, 2009, 11:16:51 PM
Goodnight all!

Hopefully we will receive good news to tomorrow regarding


::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyAngel:: Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyAngel::

Hopefully so!

Good night, Heart.

I am going to bed also.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 11, 2009, 11:20:20 PM
I knew the monkey geniuses would come up with ways to get an interview!  :YES: YOU GUYS ROCK!!:  Can we start a Cobra thread?  Can we start a thread that we just ask questions in?

About Crystal's arrival time, I thought for sure that in the VERY beginning, I read/heard she arrived at approximately 7 a.m.  Which I could understand.  She'd have to make arrangements for kids, get someone at house to watch them or whatever, might have to borrow some money for the drive, go get gas, make some coffee in the middle of the night, yada yada....I don't know.  But I know when I'm waiting for my mother in law to come over and I'm in a hurry, she inevitably takes forty five minutes to get here.  hehehe.  oh, did I say that? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 11, 2009, 11:57:14 PM
I knew the monkey geniuses would come up with ways to get an interview!  :YES: YOU GUYS ROCK!!:  Can we start a Cobra thread?  Can we start a thread that we just ask questions in?

About Crystal's arrival time, I thought for sure that in the VERY beginning, I read/heard she arrived at approximately 7 a.m.  Which I could understand.  She'd have to make arrangements for kids, get someone at house to watch them or whatever, might have to borrow some money for the drive, go get gas, make some coffee in the middle of the night, yada yada....I don't know.  But I know when I'm waiting for my mother in law to come over and I'm in a hurry, she inevitably takes forty five minutes to get here.  hehehe.  oh, did I say that? 

I kinda got sidetracked on my journey to an article with that info, all I could find was this time line which would match up with what you have heard/read:

February 10, 2009:

3:00am Misty wakes and finds out Haleigh’s gone.

3:00 - 3:25am Misty calls Ron on his cell—he says call 911.

3:25ish Misty meets Ron at front door. Has not called police.

3:27am called 911

3:49am Marie Sheffield, Haleigh’s maternal grandmother received call from Ron.

3:50ish Marie calls her daughter, Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield who lives in Glen St. Mary Florida.

5:00ish Marie calls Crystal’s father who lives in Satsuma or close—he drives over to Cummings house, call’s his ex-wife back and verifies that Haleigh is missing, that police and search dogs are at the scene. Marie and Crystal head for Satsuma.

this is from WS (posted 2-14) but I found the same thing posted by someone on Blink On Crime with some added commentary (posted 2-17):
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79688
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/02/13/amber-alert-missing-5-year-old-haleigh-cummings-satsuma-florida-update/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
I knew the monkey geniuses would come up with ways to get an interview!  :YES: YOU GUYS ROCK!!:  Can we start a Cobra thread?  Can we start a thread that we just ask questions in?

About Crystal's arrival time, I thought for sure that in the VERY beginning, I read/heard she arrived at approximately 7 a.m.  Which I could understand.  She'd have to make arrangements for kids, get someone at house to watch them or whatever, might have to borrow some money for the drive, go get gas, make some coffee in the middle of the night, yada yada....I don't know.  But I know when I'm waiting for my mother in law to come over and I'm in a hurry, she inevitably takes forty five minutes to get here.  hehehe.  oh, did I say that? 

I posted this on Art Harris

JNGA Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
May 12th, 2009 at 12:03 am

COBRA

If you have the time we would love to have you as a member over at scaredmonkeys.com Just click Forum at the top and then click Haleigh Cummings-Florida. The latest thread is number 14. I’d love to see you join and start your own thread. Art is welcome to give you my email address if you have any questions. Good Luck and God bless you in all you do. You are appreciated! I am looking forward to the day when you find haleigh.


By the way I believe art reads here based on one of his comments :)  :smt039 Hey Art!!!   ::MonkeyDance::

Maybe if any other monkeys posts comments on Art's site yall could go over and leave a message to let cobra know you are a member of scaredmonkeys and you appreciate him. :)  Just a thought. 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 12:15:19 AM
I'm not sure who pickles is or why she was even on there, the few things she said made no sense, and she wasn't even paying attention. The other woman was at least following the conversation, I think she was the guys wife. This show did allow call ins and a chat room, but I didn't catch it when it was live. The interview is very long, so it's hard to listen to the whole thing, I had to wait for my kids to go to bed, and then my oldest (hubby) made me miss parts.

about the pop up ads ..... I didn't even know that there were pop-ups on this page, till I used another computer to come here. I use Firefox and have ad-block plus on it....... it works very nicely!

Wonderful Idea, Maybe if he comes over here to read, he'll see your Idea and concider it.

EXACTLY!  Trying to talk about a little girl that was missing, the LEAST she could do would be to pay attention and sound halfway sober. (I'm not saying she was anything, but PAY ATTENTION FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!)  I was dismayed that for such a serious subject, it was almost like a joke at the beginning and the only part I've tried to listen to.  Therefore, I vote we figure out how to interview Cobra , and show them how's it done. 

I'm with you :)  I say monkeys need to leave comments to him on Art Harris, because I believe he reads there and invite him to become a monkey and if he does, start a new thread titled   COBRA    and it will be his thread where we can ask him questions and he can ask us questions.  What do yall think?

Don't give up hope.. I found him posting on both Art Harris page, and the one I was just milling in.  He might just be headed this way.....

http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/crystal-sheffields-haleigh-bug-foundation-is-open-for-business/


I don't know if this is possible or how it would be arranged.  But, remember Leonard Padilla would go on UStream and have a live chat.  The questions were forwarded to him and then he would answer them on the air.

Maybe this is something that Cobra can do.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 12:19:10 AM
My comment ended up in the wrong place, I guess I went a little too fast that time.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

My comment to Gramamonkey  was
Wonderful Idea, Maybe if he comes over here to read he'll see it and concider it. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 12:20:40 AM
Looks like paperwork filed.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Details:

UCN: 542009DR000654FDXXXX
File Date: 2009-05-11 Disposition Date: 
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
SPELL DONEVAN LEVAL  Defendants
PREVAT KRISTINA RENEE 


Date Docket Description

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 12:24:47 AM
GREAT JOB JNGA!!!
Only problem I see is that it takes FOREVER to get approved to get on here. After a week, I finally saw someone had posted an email address for a moderator, and I emailed that person and viola!  I could finally sign on!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 12:29:07 AM
Goodnight all!

Hopefully we will receive good news to tomorrow regarding


::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyAngel:: Haleigh  ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyAngel::

Hopefully so!

Good night, Heart.

I am going to bed also.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 12:36:22 AM
GREAT JOB JNGA!!!
Only problem I see is that it takes FOREVER to get approved to get on here. After a week, I finally saw someone had posted an email address for a moderator, and I emailed that person and viola!  I could finally sign on!! 

That's why I gave Art the OK to give him my email address, so I could tell him to email mod if need be :)  I had to email mod to, They are very busy and don't get the appreiciation they deserve.  We need National Mod Appreciation Day.  :)

 
::MonkeyDance::  Thank You Mods!!! for all you do    ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 12:39:24 AM
Looks like paperwork filed.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Details:

UCN: 542009DR000654FDXXXX
File Date: 2009-05-11 Disposition Date: 
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
SPELL DONEVAN LEVAL  Defendants
PREVAT KRISTINA RENEE 


Date Docket Description

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Is he trying to get her rights to the child took away?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 02:43:49 AM
That's why I gave Art the OK to give him my email address, so I could tell him to email mod if need be :)  I had to email mod to, They are very busy and don't get the appreiciation they deserve.  We need National Mod Appreciation Day.  :)

 
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BBM    ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 12, 2009, 04:17:01 AM
sorry Maven, I don't know what BBM stands for yet. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 07:33:07 AM
My comment ended up in the wrong place, I guess I went a little too fast that time.  ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

My comment to Gramamonkey  was
Wonderful Idea, Maybe if he comes over here to read he'll see it and concider it. 

You know how opinions are.. worth a cup of coffee as long as you have the money to pay for the coffee at the same time, but here is mine... I believe they both already read over here..  never know when one is already a member and posting..
I don't believe they would let us know which Monkey they were..  But, as I said.. I am sure they have been reading all along, and probably WS also....  ::MonkeyCool::  Monkeys in disquise.... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 07:39:01 AM
Looks like paperwork filed.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Details:

UCN: 542009DR000654FDXXXX
File Date: 2009-05-11 Disposition Date: 
File Type: PATERNITY - FD12
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
SPELL DONEVAN LEVAL  Defendants
PREVAT KRISTINA RENEE 


Date Docket Description

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php

Hey Jersey,  I knew you had the new star from Grama.. Now you have stripes..  I think we are in trouble now.. Jersey's getting serious on us..  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 07:50:52 AM
Crystal and Chad didn't have his kids living with them at the time that Haleigh went missing so they would not have had to get child care before they left their home the morning that they got the call....from what we hear anyways...
grab Chloe, some diapers, bottles and jump in the car...throw some things in a bag and be gone in 10 minutes....jmo.....but we don't know really how long it was before she got down there...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 12, 2009, 07:52:44 AM
Good Morning, mlee and all you other cute Monkeys!!!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 12, 2009, 08:07:30 AM
Good Morning!

I didn't get my 'approval' email, and after about two weeks I tried using the user name and password and it worked...had applied about two months ago...and never got anything. 
Anyway, just happy to be here!   I do hope Art, Cobra and Hart would post with us, I for one am hanging on every word about Haleigh, and very thank-full for anyone keeping her in the news.

I keep thinking, it's warmer weather, more people out and on vacations, maybe someone, somewhere will find Haleigh.
Have a good day Monkey's!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 08:20:00 AM
Good Morning, mlee and all you other cute Monkeys!!!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Morning Grama, I hope you have had your coffee this morning.....  I have a question to throw out to the group, and I do hope your going to be around to help save my back side, when the group starts to tar and feather me....

First, go back and read Maven's time line for Crystal's arrival

1. know that she could have called her local Sheriff's Office, and they would have sent out a unit, who would have transported her to the Putnam county line, where another unit was waiting and deliver her to the Crime Scene..  Now, know this, and take it totally to heart .. Johnny Sheffield would know this....

2. WHY would she Crystal think this was a JOKE..
3. Why was there no urgency, no panic in their behavior..  and they took their time to travel to Satsuma....

now here is the question, and I will get ready to start ducking..  But, remember all the inconsistancy in stories, the lies, the deceit we have had to deal with..  and the I don't know, I was at Work..

What if Crystal did come to the house and took Haleigh and she  LEFT A NOTE..  TELLING RON SHE HAD HALEIGH.
Crystal upon notification would have thought this has to be a joke.....  But, ron's revenge.. what if they didn't read the note until after the LE was called..  Then setup the backdoor, to make it look like the house was broken into...  This means it wasn't a kidnapping, it was proving short elevator was irresponsible, ron had received notification.. and decided to just fry Crystal instead......  So, Crystal and fam came up slowly, wondering what was waiting for  them upon arrival, an arrest warrant possible????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 09:04:47 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 09:14:01 AM
if ron was growing pot in the back yard, and having 2 bricks of weed, did J. Sheffield turn him into the police? why not go to the police where there would be a record of it? J. Sheffield does not strike me as a person who would be afraid of Ron...especially an ex police man.....you know how they stick together....why wouldn't he have told the other cops in town about Ron and they would have all been on the lookout for him making a wrong move and hauling his butt to jail....? jmo....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:17:05 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Seem's like bad blood to me, and revenge is known to sweet, although bitter sweet in reality..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:19:50 AM
if ron was growing pot in the back yard, and having 2 bricks of weed, did J. Sheffield turn him into the police? why not go to the police where there would be a record of it? J. Sheffield does not strike me as a person who would be afraid of Ron...especially an ex police man.....you know how they stick together....why wouldn't he have told the other cops in town about Ron and they would have all been on the lookout for him making a wrong move and hauling his butt to jail....? jmo....


Maybe thats exactly what he did.... and that could be part of the drug issues that ron was arrested for and walked away from.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:23:22 AM
See, no one can deny that ron was arrested on drugs.. its public record.  And if he had that much pot.. then he was dealing.  that is not personal usage.. anything over a certain about consistutes Drug Dealer.. possession with the intent to distribute...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: pink angel on May 12, 2009, 09:27:36 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

See, this is why I don't like Art Harris or Cobra...this is all rumor and speculation and how does all this "crap" help find Haleigh? All they are doing is trying to smear Ron. jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:34:45 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

See, this is why I don't like Art Harris or Cobra...this is all rumor and speculation and how does all this "crap" help find Haleigh? All they are doing is trying to smear Ron. jmo

Since we know these elements are facts.
1. ron has been arrested for drugs.
2. that Johnny Sheffield was arrested over a dog issue
3. that johnny Sheffield was in law enforcement
4. that ron and Crystal were together
5. that ron and Crystal lived with several of the parents on both sides.

Sorry to have to break the news to you Angel, don't get upset..  this is not rumor or speculation. This is truth and fact.. And yes, it could help find Little Haleigh.  Because what ever happened for her to be missing, is right smack in the midst of a family war.
Now, if people want to protect ron.. first you would have to protect ron from ron... he makes his own path... 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 09:36:13 AM
Good Morning Monkeys, How is everyone this morning, my daughter has had a toothache for 2 days and so its off to the dentist this morning with her, Parying for news on Haleigh..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 09:41:19 AM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:41:49 AM
Good Morning Monkeys, How is everyone this morning, my daughter has had a toothache for 2 days and so its off to the dentist this morning with her, Parying for news on Haleigh..

We all are hon, and I hope your daughter gets to feeling better, no worse pain then a toothache, makes you miserable.. good luck. Glad to visit with you again..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:45:23 AM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 09:48:00 AM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 09:48:55 AM
Good Morning Monkeys, How is everyone this morning, my daughter has had a toothache for 2 days and so its off to the dentist this morning with her, Parying for news on Haleigh..

We all are hon, and I hope your daughter gets to feeling better, no worse pain then a toothache, makes you miserable.. good luck. Glad to visit with you again..
Thanks, yea and she has kept me running, I hope today will take care of it and get her some releif, ,,I so hope someone somewhere does something for poosr Haleigh........God Bless Her!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:49:23 AM
Okay, lets find it..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
someone on here will remember this as well...it may have been Searching or Fatcat who provided the record....it was towards the beginning when all the records were turning up....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: pink angel on May 12, 2009, 09:57:17 AM
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

See, this is why I don't like Art Harris or Cobra...this is all rumor and speculation and how does all this "crap" help find Haleigh? All they are doing is trying to smear Ron. jmo

Since we know these elements are facts.
1. ron has been arrested for drugs.
2. that Johnny Sheffield was arrested over a dog issue
3. that johnny Sheffield was in law enforcement
4. that ron and Crystal were together
5. that ron and Crystal lived with several of the parents on both sides.

Sorry to have to break the news to you Angel, don't get upset..  this is not rumor or speculation. This is truth and fact.. And yes, it could help find Little Haleigh.  Because what ever happened for her to be missing, is right smack in the midst of a family war.
Now, if people want to protect ron.. first you would have to protect ron from ron... he makes his own path... 

I am well aware of all that you stated above. I am not trying to protect Ron at all. All I am saying is all Ron's drugs arrests were from years ago and people DO change.

I find it hard to believe if the above story was true, why did this former deputy NOT call the police on Ron for bringing/growing drugs at his house? You think that would have mentioned IF it happened. (the calling the cops)
Why was Ron not arrested for dog issues too?

All I am saying is just because he is law enforcement doesn't mean his "claims" and "tales" are true.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
this is Marie's full name..Griffis, Nancy Marie Johns Sheffield (aka Marie)
mother of Crystal Sheffield, maternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 1965, presently married to Bruce A. Griffis, witnesses to marriage in 2002 in Putnam County, Fl were Virgil Johns Jr and Marilyn C. Brannen Johns, lives in Glen St. Mary, age 43

for anyone looking up past records...I just tried but couldn't get on the site....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 10:02:36 AM
Good Morning, mlee and all you other cute Monkeys!!!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Morning Grama, I hope you have had your coffee this morning.....  I have a question to throw out to the group, and I do hope your going to be around to help save my back side, when the group starts to tar and feather me....

First, go back and read Maven's time line for Crystal's arrival

1. know that she could have called her local Sheriff's Office, and they would have sent out a unit, who would have transported her to the Putnam county line, where another unit was waiting and deliver her to the Crime Scene..  Now, know this, and take it totally to heart .. Johnny Sheffield would know this....

2. WHY would she Crystal think this was a JOKE..
3. Why was there no urgency, no panic in their behavior..  and they took their time to travel to Satsuma....

now here is the question, and I will get ready to start ducking..  But, remember all the inconsistancy in stories, the lies, the deceit we have had to deal with..  and the I don't know, I was at Work..

What if Crystal did come to the house and took Haleigh and she  LEFT A NOTE..  TELLING RON SHE HAD HALEIGH.
Crystal upon notification would have thought this has to be a joke.....  But, ron's revenge.. what if they didn't read the note until after the LE was called..  Then setup the backdoor, to make it look like the house was broken into...  This means it wasn't a kidnapping, it was proving short elevator was irresponsible, ron had received notification.. and decided to just fry Crystal instead......  So, Crystal and fam came up slowly, wondering what was waiting for  them upon arrival, an arrest warrant possible????
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A late good morning to all you sweet monkeys ::MonkeyAngel::


Melee your theory makes good sense  to me , maybe the note that ron showed le was from crystal


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: pink angel on May 12, 2009, 10:08:31 AM
someone on here will remember this as well...it may have been Searching or Fatcat who provided the record....it was towards the beginning when all the records were turning up....

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT’S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE’S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 10:13:20 AM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


Yes, they did. And I copied it to my "notes."

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
2000-05-18 1 COMPLAINT: JOHNNY LAURAMORE BATTERY-DVR
2000-08-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 10:16:18 AM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Oops ... should have caught up reading before I posted.

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Good morning, monkeys


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:19:25 AM
Good Morning, mlee and all you other cute Monkeys!!!!

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyCool:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyAngel::

Good Morning Grama, I hope you have had your coffee this morning.....  I have a question to throw out to the group, and I do hope your going to be around to help save my back side, when the group starts to tar and feather me....

First, go back and read Maven's time line for Crystal's arrival

1. know that she could have called her local Sheriff's Office, and they would have sent out a unit, who would have transported her to the Putnam county line, where another unit was waiting and deliver her to the Crime Scene..  Now, know this, and take it totally to heart .. Johnny Sheffield would know this....

2. WHY would she Crystal think this was a JOKE..
3. Why was there no urgency, no panic in their behavior..  and they took their time to travel to Satsuma....

now here is the question, and I will get ready to start ducking..  But, remember all the inconsistancy in stories, the lies, the deceit we have had to deal with..  and the I don't know, I was at Work..

What if Crystal did come to the house and took Haleigh and she  LEFT A NOTE..  TELLING RON SHE HAD HALEIGH.
Crystal upon notification would have thought this has to be a joke.....  But, ron's revenge.. what if they didn't read the note until after the LE was called..  Then setup the backdoor, to make it look like the house was broken into...  This means it wasn't a kidnapping, it was proving short elevator was irresponsible, ron had received notification.. and decided to just fry Crystal instead......  So, Crystal and fam came up slowly, wondering what was waiting for  them upon arrival, an arrest warrant possible????
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A late good morning to all you sweet monkeys ::MonkeyAngel::


Melee your theory makes good sense  to me , maybe the note that ron showed le was from crystal

Very good point.. Glad you brought that up.. and it does make sense doesn't it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 12, 2009, 10:23:25 AM
Since the work hours always seem questionable, brought this over from the Timeline thread...

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Putting this here so it doesn't get lost in the posts.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12832046&highlight=4%3A30#post12832046

Ok thanks to a poster on here for pming me the number to the bridge company here is the shifts

1st shift---6am until 430 pm

2nd shift---430 until 3 am

weekend shift---6 am until 6 pm

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Should be concete to base info, theories on.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:24:45 AM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

I imagine that LE has a good idea of all of what the two families do, have done and they are just waiting for the right slip up. This does appear to be a long standing, family war between the two.  I had another thought..  Crystal had plans on having her wedding to Chad, and cancelled it when Haleigh went missing..  Maybe, even thought these two are at war,  sometimes feelings of caring for someone are shown in a different light. Like the little boy who use to pull your hair, but he really liked you..  Revenge is bitter sweet when you are angry with someone like an ex, who is getting married.. And to put the final touches on, would be to get married yourself.....  Might well explain that..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:26:55 AM
thanks you all! I knew that I had read it here about Marie....
Brandi..I was waiting for you to show up to cover my ar$e as usual with your good note keeping!
I am not on anyone's side on this, but what is good for one is good for all...If we are going to expose or bring in one family members record for drugs, then all should be looked at...jmo...all would be suspect if we are basing our opinions  on arrests and drug use...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:27:52 AM
mlee..did you see the arrest record for Marie...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 12, 2009, 10:28:07 AM
MY BIG QUESTION

WHY???  Would Ron go along with Crystal taking Haleigh, and putting Misty in the spotlight??? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: pink angel on May 12, 2009, 10:29:24 AM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

I agree with you there, no rose. :)


Have a good day all. Pray for all of our lost angels. That they find their way home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:31:01 AM
are ya leaving us for awhile today Pink Angel? you mean you have a life outta here?  ::MonkeyHaHa::
talk to you later ....
hope Haleigh is found soon...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:31:45 AM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


Yes, they did. And I copied it to my "notes."

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
2000-05-18 1 COMPLAINT: JOHNNY LAURAMORE BATTERY-DVR
2000-08-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

Thanks Brandy for finding this...  So, we have a conviction, does Johnny have one too, if he was living with her??  They were together until 2000?  Okay, Brandy..  what does this have to do with Haleigh gone missing??  Remember, when ron and Crystal lived at Johnny House, he was married to Connie.. not Maria..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: melisb on May 12, 2009, 10:32:52 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:35:30 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::

Welcome Melisb, make yourself at home.. don't worry about the computer.. it will work out fine..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::
WELCOME, nice to having you posting with us. ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 10:43:53 AM
MY BIG QUESTION

WHY???  Would Ron go along with Crystal taking Haleigh, and putting Misty in the spotlight??? 
Does not make sense to me at all. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:45:17 AM
snip mlee:  Thanks Brandy for finding this...  So, we have a conviction, does Johnny have one too, if he was living with her??  They were together until 2000?  Okay, Brandy..  what does this have to do with Haleigh gone missing??  Remember, when ron and Crystal lived at Johnny House, he was married to Connie.. not Maria..


snip mlee: Sorry to have to break the news to you Angel, don't get upset..  this is not rumor or speculation. This is truth and fact.. And yes, it could help find Little Haleigh.  Because what ever happened for her to be missing, is right smack in the midst of a family war.
Now, if people want to protect ron.. first you would have to protect ron from ron... he makes his own path... 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 10:45:49 AM
MY BIG QUESTION

WHY???  Would Ron go along with Crystal taking Haleigh, and putting Misty in the spotlight??? 

My big question is why would he marry her after WBG said he had sex 3 times with Misty, Ron has a demented mind

so I think he married Misty to show WBG who is the Boss.....and to keep himself out of trouble....Ron is probably

planning as we speak the best time to divorce Misty.   sorry i was o/t


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 10:48:52 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::

WELCOME TO THE CAGE  MELISB  ::MonkeyHaHa::That makes 2 of us now that is computer challenged....but everyone here is very patient. Have a great day ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:49:46 AM
MY BIG QUESTION

WHY???  Would Ron go along with Crystal taking Haleigh, and putting Misty in the spotlight??? 

I don't think he was going along with it, but remember his statements that he rather knew who took Haleigh, but never speculated..  I don't think he intented to put short elevator in the spotlight, once this train took off it rather made a life for itself.. I don't think anyone of them were prepared for this case.. And all short elevator really knew was that she passed out, woke up, Haleigh was gone and I don't believe they knew the reality until after the call to LE..  I speculate that ron still has feelings for Crystal, and she was getting married.  He may well have not been too agreeable to that issue.  You know you have to care for a person to hate them..  Now, by his getting married he was punishing Crystal..  You have to remember that when the call was made to LE, it was out of all of their hands.   Short elevator may have been threatening to tell everything she knew..  LE would not have been happy to find out that Crystal had come in and taken Haleigh and ron had been notified by a note left for him, telling him where she was and why she was taken..  Both would have been under the carpet with LE for starting such a brew...  And may still be so..  That's where LE is in figuring out that this was not a stranger abduction, and that Haleigh is with Family or people Close to Family that are involved.  As long as they know or believe Haleigh is safe, they can set back and watch all of this family war play out, and then decide what to do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 11:05:26 AM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


Yes, they did. And I copied it to my "notes."

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
2000-05-18 1 COMPLAINT: JOHNNY LAURAMORE BATTERY-DVR
2000-08-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

Thanks Brandy for finding this...  So, we have a conviction, does Johnny have one too, if he was living with her??  They were together until 2000?  Okay, Brandy..  what does this have to do with Haleigh gone missing??  Remember, when ron and Crystal lived at Johnny House, he was married to Connie.. not Maria..

mlee:

I was posting information that was requested by a monkey.

I never said it had anything to do with Haleigh missing.

But I agree with cookie that if we bring up one side of the family's arrest records, we should bring up the other side's. It's only fair and right that we look at all sides in an investigation.

By the way, a picky point: With all due respect, my nickname is Brandi, not Brandy. And It's Marie Sheffield, not Maria. You frequently use those names, so I know who you are referring to, but maybe others who have not followed this thread so closely would be confused about who you mean when you use those names.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 11:07:31 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::

melisb:

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I look forward to your posts later today and offer you a hearty WELCOME.

~Brandi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 11:42:19 AM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

And my 2 cents is that none of us know what any of these parents and grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. are currently involved in.

All we have is some past arrest records.  We do not have or know what these people do currently in their everyday lives in their own homes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 11:56:46 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::

Welcome melisb!

Glad to have you on board.

Look forward to see your post!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 12:05:19 PM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

And my 2 cents is that none of us know what any of these parents and grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. are currently involved in.

All we have is some past arrest records.  We do not have or know what these people do currently in their everyday lives in their own homes.

I agree!

but if we are going to look at one side for past arrests, I feel that we need to look at both sides to be fair...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 12:09:17 PM
Two Injured During Home Invasion Robbery

2009-5-12 by: Lt. Johnny Greenwood

   Crescent City - At about 7:00 PM on Monday evening (05/11), at 1217 Old Highway 17, in Crescent City, four (4) South Putnam County residents were the victims of a home invasion robbery. The victims reported to Deputy Chris Gay that three (3) black males, dressed in black, entered their residence armed with handguns. Two of the residents were pistol whipped, one requiring medical attention at Putnam Community Medical Center. The three armed men demanded and received an undisclosed amount of money from the victims before fleeing from the residence in a white Chevrolet Trailblazer. The identity of the suspects is unknown at this time.                 

Sheriff Jeff Hardy has assigned Investigator Julie Walker of the Major Crimes Unit to the investigation.

Anyone with information concerning this incident, or the identity of the individuals responsible for this crime, are asked to call Crime Stoppers at 888-277-TIPS (8477).

http://www.pcso.us/2009-05-12-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 12:11:50 PM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

And my 2 cents is that none of us know what any of these parents and grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. are currently involved in.

All we have is some past arrest records.  We do not have or know what these people do currently in their everyday lives in their own homes.

I agree!

but if we are going to look at one side for past arrests, I feel that we need to look at both sides to be fair...

That's true, look at both sides, and I will bet the farm most of them are up to no good, imo.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 12:14:04 PM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

And my 2 cents is that none of us know what any of these parents and grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. are currently involved in.

All we have is some past arrest records.  We do not have or know what these people do currently in their everyday lives in their own homes.

I agree!

but if we are going to look at one side for past arrests, I feel that we need to look at both sides to be fair...


FYI Cookie ITA!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 12:23:10 PM
MY BIG QUESTION

WHY???  Would Ron go along with Crystal taking Haleigh, and putting Misty in the spotlight??? 

I don't think he was going along with it, but remember his statements that he rather knew who took Haleigh, but never speculated..  I don't think he intented to put short elevator in the spotlight, once this train took off it rather made a life for itself.. I don't think anyone of them were prepared for this case.. And all short elevator really knew was that she passed out, woke up, Haleigh was gone and I don't believe they knew the reality until after the call to LE..  I speculate that ron still has feelings for Crystal, and she was getting married.  He may well have not been too agreeable to that issue.  You know you have to care for a person to hate them..  Now, by his getting married he was punishing Crystal..  You have to remember that when the call was made to LE, it was out of all of their hands.   Short elevator may have been threatening to tell everything she knew..  LE would not have been happy to find out that Crystal had come in and taken Haleigh and ron had been notified by a note left for him, telling him where she was and why she was taken..  Both would have been under the carpet with LE for starting such a brew...  And may still be so..  That's where LE is in figuring out that this was not a stranger abduction, and that Haleigh is with Family or people Close to Family that are involved.  As long as they know or believe Haleigh is safe, they can set back and watch all of this family war play out, and then decide what to do.

Morning everyone  :)
Wait wait wait Mlee!  I think I might be getting it.  I might be getting what you're saying here....and I have been a supporter of Crystal, only because I am a mother myself.  Now I mentioned once, a while ago about "old feelings" and was of course told I was an idiot on another forum.  But you can't tell me that when you spend years with someone, have FAMILY PICTURES taken, have CHILDREN together, that those old feelings DONT COME UP.  You know how to fight with each other, you know what hurts.  It's the middle of the night, things have gone wrong, your mind starts to wander. Probably would piss him off that she was getting married.  (I know way too many people that this goes on with, sad to say) 

So let's say Crystal took Haleigh and left him a note.  He calls the police and then it's out of his hands, but Misty got involved by being there.  He knew it was Crystal, or someone did it FOR Crystal, but somehow one lie turned into about a hundred. 
:::but I keep going back to the picture of him on the ground with Crystal at his side::::: 

Or maybe he didn't know at first, and it took a few days.  Remember, it has to be simple.  I don't believe these people actually planned out anything, or figured out ahead of time what to say.  I think the more simple it is, the closer we will come to the truth.  I believe they run on emotions, not schemes. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 12:26:33 PM
And Jr. WAS NOT taken, because Haleigh "is his heart".  So she was getting married, he was upset, decided to go after her for child support, she didn't like Misty, she decided to hit below the belt with Haleigh....?  I don't know.  Good GRIEF I wish they'd find this little girl!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


Yes, they did. And I copied it to my "notes."

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
2000-05-18 1 COMPLAINT: JOHNNY LAURAMORE BATTERY-DVR
2000-08-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

Thanks Brandy for finding this...  So, we have a conviction, does Johnny have one too, if he was living with her??  They were together until 2000?  Okay, Brandy..  what does this have to do with Haleigh gone missing??  Remember, when ron and Crystal lived at Johnny House, he was married to Connie.. not Maria..




Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

UCN: 542005MM002130XXAXMX
File Date: 2005-05-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2005-05-09 1 COMPLAINT SOPC DWAINE ELSON WEIKER 5/04/2005

2005-05-09 1 BATTERY

2005-05-09 1 ASSAULT

UCN: 542006CO000024XXAXCX
File Date: 2006-02-14 Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2006-02-14 1 LOCAL ORDIN CITA #06-395 1/6/06 PCSO/TIMPS

2006-02-14 1 PUBL NUISANCE ANIMAL/STRAY

2006-02-14 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 2/6/06

2006-02-15 2 WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO LOCAL ORDINANCE

2006-02-15 2 HEARING SET 04/11/06 11:15AM 400 EAM

2006-03-08 3 NOTICE OF ORDINANCE HEARING ISSUED TO:

2006-03-08 3 DEF JOHNNY SHEFFIELD,COMP MARJORIE DUSO,D/S JON TIMPS

2006-04-11 4 COMP. DECEASED PER OFFICER – DISMISSED EAM

Reported for a stray animal on 2/14. Case dismissed on 4/11 due to complainant being deceased.

UCN: 542006CF001187XXAXMX
File Date: 2006-06-05 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2006-06-05 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO D/S K TRABER (5/22/06)

2006-06-05 1 AGGRAVATED BATTERY RENE RAMSEY

UCN: 541994MM000149XXAXMX
File Date: 1994-01-12 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: LUKASHOW, TOM
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1994-01-12 1 CITATION NO: 22942 ROBERT RAULERSON

1994-01-12 1 ATTEMPTING TO TAKE DEER AT NIGHT

UCN: 541995CF001500XXAXMX
File Date: 1995-08-23 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1995-08-23 1 COMPLAINT – AGGRAVATED ASSAULT W/DEADLY WEAPON

UCN: 541997MM000607XXAXMX
File Date: 1997-02-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: PEARL, HOWARD B
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1997-02-09 1 CITATION NO: 186324-S 4 JOHN MERCHANT

1997-02-09 1 D L SUSPENDED

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 12:34:32 PM
No none of this is finding Haleigh, but it is fair to say none of these people are what you would call upstanding citizens, looks to me they just thumb their noses up to the law. Also seems to me that most of these people never should have reproduced, but to late for any of that. I just hope LE is going to have something soon on Haleigh.

And my 2 cents is that none of us know what any of these parents and grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, etc. are currently involved in.

All we have is some past arrest records.  We do not have or know what these people do currently in their everyday lives in their own homes.

I agree!

but if we are going to look at one side for past arrests, I feel that we need to look at both sides to be fair...


FYI Cookie ITA!

I know.... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 12, 2009, 12:39:53 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 12:48:38 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 12:53:26 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


Yes, they did. And I copied it to my "notes."

SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
1997-07-28 1 BOND SET AT $3,016.
1997-07-28 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
1997-07-28 3 APPEARANCE BOND - (UNSECURED)
1997-07-28 4 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
1997-08-11 5 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY RONALD E. CLARK & PLEA
1997-08-11 6 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
1997-09-29 7 INFORMATION (UNLAWFUL POSS. W/INTENT TO SELL OR
1997-09-29 7 DELIVER A CONT. SUBSTANCE, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING)
1997-10-01 8 ORDER SETTING PRE-TRIAL 11/25/97
1997-10-01 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 11/25/97
1997-10-01 10 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 11/25/97
1997-10-06 11 STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK JUDGEMENT FOR COSTS OF
1997-10-06 11 INVESTIGATON AND PROSECUTION
1997-10-06 12 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF
1997-10-06 12 INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI WITNESS LIST
1997-11-25 13 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATTENDED BY COUNSEL,
1997-11-25 13 RONALD CLARK. CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 12/11/97
1997-11-25 14 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFT. 12/11/97
1997-11-25 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 12/11/97
1997-11-25 16 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 12/11/97
1997-12-11 17 PLEA MIN: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY, RONNIE CLARK.
1997-12-11 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD GUILTY A/C CT I AND II UNLAWFUL POSS
1997-12-11 17 W/INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER A CONT. SUB, MAINTAINING A
1997-12-11 17 DRUG DWELLING, ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5YRS AND OR $5000 FINE
1997-12-11 17 1YR AND OR $1000 FINE, PL ACCEPTED, PSI ORDERED, CASE
1997-12-11 17 SET FOR SENTENCING 1/27/98 STATE RECOMM. GUIDELINE SENTENCE
1997-12-11 17 IF NO PRIOR CONVICTIONS AND RECMM W/HOLD ADJ. STATE NOT
1997-12-11 17 TO FILE ADDITIONAL CHARGES.
1997-12-15 18 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT 01/27/98
1997-12-15 19 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY 01/27/98
1998-01-27 20 SCORESHEET FILED
1998-01-27 21 SENTENCING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY RONALD CLARK.
1998-01-27 21 COURT WITHHELD ADJ. OF GUILT, ORDERED TO PAY $255 COURT COST
1998-01-27 21 AS TO CT. I SENTENCED TO 3YRS PROBATION, AS TO CT. II 1YRS
1998-01-27 21 PROBATION, RUN CONCURRENT WITH CT. I. TO PAY $25 COST OF
1998-01-27 21 SUPERVISION, TO COMPLETE OUT-IN PATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE
1998-01-27 21 COUNSELING AND TREATMENT IF NECESSARY AND PAY FOR ANY FEES
1998-01-27 21 OCCURED. TO PERFORM 50HRS. COMMUNITY SERVICE.
1998-01-27 22 ORDER WITHHOLDING ADJUDICATION OF GUILT AND PLACING
1998-01-27 22 DEFENDANT ON PROBATION - ENT MIN CIR CT BK276 PG662-665
1999-08-02 23 $22.69 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-06 24 $62.50 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-17 25 $37.19 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
1999-08-23 26 $52.62 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE
2000-03-13 27 ORDER OF MODIFICATION OF PROBATION
2000-03-13 27 ENT MIN CIR CT - BK. 319 PG. 73-74
2003-03-28 28 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/REQUEST FOR COPIES/NO MONIES SENT
2003-04-09 29 LETTER FROM DEFENDANT/$7.00/REQUEST FOR COPIES OF J & S
2003-04-09 29 MAILED 04-15-2003


SHEFFIELD, NANCY MARIE
2000-05-18 1 COMPLAINT: JOHNNY LAURAMORE BATTERY-DVR
2000-08-24 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

Thanks Brandy for finding this...  So, we have a conviction, does Johnny have one too, if he was living with her??  They were together until 2000?  Okay, Brandy..  what does this have to do with Haleigh gone missing??  Remember, when ron and Crystal lived at Johnny House, he was married to Connie.. not Maria..




Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

UCN: 542005MM002130XXAXMX
File Date: 2005-05-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2005-05-09 1 COMPLAINT SOPC DWAINE ELSON WEIKER 5/04/2005

2005-05-09 1 BATTERY

2005-05-09 1 ASSAULT

UCN: 542006CO000024XXAXCX
File Date: 2006-02-14 Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2006-02-14 1 LOCAL ORDIN CITA #06-395 1/6/06 PCSO/TIMPS

2006-02-14 1 PUBL NUISANCE ANIMAL/STRAY

2006-02-14 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 2/6/06

2006-02-15 2 WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO LOCAL ORDINANCE

2006-02-15 2 HEARING SET 04/11/06 11:15AM 400 EAM

2006-03-08 3 NOTICE OF ORDINANCE HEARING ISSUED TO:

2006-03-08 3 DEF JOHNNY SHEFFIELD,COMP MARJORIE DUSO,D/S JON TIMPS

2006-04-11 4 COMP. DECEASED PER OFFICER – DISMISSED EAM

Reported for a stray animal on 2/14. Case dismissed on 4/11 due to complainant being deceased.

UCN: 542006CF001187XXAXMX
File Date: 2006-06-05 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2006-06-05 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO D/S K TRABER (5/22/06)

2006-06-05 1 AGGRAVATED BATTERY RENE RAMSEY

UCN: 541994MM000149XXAXMX
File Date: 1994-01-12 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: LUKASHOW, TOM
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1994-01-12 1 CITATION NO: 22942 ROBERT RAULERSON

1994-01-12 1 ATTEMPTING TO TAKE DEER AT NIGHT

UCN: 541995CF001500XXAXMX
File Date: 1995-08-23 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1995-08-23 1 COMPLAINT – AGGRAVATED ASSAULT W/DEADLY WEAPON

UCN: 541997MM000607XXAXMX
File Date: 1997-02-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: PEARL, HOWARD B
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1997-02-09 1 CITATION NO: 186324-S 4 JOHN MERCHANT

1997-02-09 1 D L SUSPENDED

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No drugs, but one heck of a temper...  hummmmm.. that name Merchant has come up before..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 01:00:52 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

Rose it really isn't that big.. it's really very simple.  someone knocked on that door, or had a key.. Haleigh walked out of that house without even blinking an eye.. She was with someone that she loved and trusted.  Who could she be with.. think how vast their extended families are..... All over Florida, All over the Country.  Would cousins get involved.... mine would, what about yours?   Hey, short elevator would have been out like a light, they just had to be quiet and leave quietly..   Everyone can invision a predator coming in and taking a struggling child out, without problems..  Why is it much more difficult to think that a parent or parents family could do the same thing with out struggle or problems.  Intent is the basis. "I'm going to get Haleigh". thats the planning.  Leave a note, saying I took Haleigh,  and will keep her until you get ride of that girl that's living here thats on drugs..  That's all it had to say....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 01:09:06 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

That's why I said simple.  It has to be simple.  And I think once the ball started rolling, (whatever really happened) it just sped up and kept going by itself.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 01:12:56 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.



GRACE: Is a custody battle brewing over Haleigh`s 4-year-old little brother? Haleigh`s mother hiring a lawyer.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When a parent beats a child until the child is bloodied, that is a crime.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Haleigh`s dad`s grandma says any claims of abuse are absolute lies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It enrages me. It really does. I`ve been around these children all their life. They`re happy. They`re loved.

SHEFFIELD: I have no reason to lie. I want my daughter back.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The father of Haleigh Cummings is defending his new wife, even though she has not kept her story straight.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One thing that has been inconsistent is, like, all right, who was with who? Who was sleeping with who? Were you with Junior? Were you with Haleigh?

GRACE: Did she tell police at any time that she was in the bed with little Haleigh?

RONALD CUMMINGS: I wasn`t there when she was questioned by police, Miss Nancy.

MISTY CUMMINGS: I didn`t do anything to that little girl. I would never hurt her. They love me. They love me. They look at me like their mom, you know? You ask little Junior, he`ll tell you.

RONALD CUMMINGS: It ain`t nothing to do with her, man. She can`t help that. She can`t help she was the last one to see her.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:CNXQLtQBBh8J:transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/18/ng.01.html+RON+CUMMINGS+I+can%27t+believe+you+let+them+take+my+child&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 01:14:02 PM
Is it rumor or true that Crystal and Amber are cousins, Maybe Amber added fuel to the fire after the 3 day nightmare

and informed Crystal what was going on.....who knows....ugh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 01:14:21 PM
Merchant ...yes, the name has come up a few times in this case:

"Putnam County Sheriff’s Office Lead Investigator Jon Merchant said cadaver dogs, bloodhounds, article search dogs, dive teams and marine units were involved." ... http://www.zimbio.com/Haleigh+Cummings/articles/99/Haleigh+Ann+Marie+Cummings

and

""You wonder how a child can be taken out of a bedroom, but it happens," Inv. Merchant said." .. AMW site: http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

May be a different Jon/John Merchant.

dunno.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 01:14:48 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

Rose it really isn't that big.. it's really very simple.  someone knocked on that door, or had a key.. Haleigh walked out of that house without even blinking an eye.. She was with someone that she loved and trusted.  Who could she be with.. think how vast their extended families are..... All over Florida, All over the Country.  Would cousins get involved.... mine would, what about yours?   Hey, short elevator would have been out like a light, they just had to be quiet and leave quietly..   Everyone can invision a predator coming in and taking a struggling child out, without problems..  Why is it much more difficult to think that a parent or parents family could do the same thing with out struggle or problems.  Intent is the basis. "I'm going to get Haleigh". thats the planning.  Leave a note, saying I took Haleigh,  and will keep her until you get ride of that girl that's living here thats on drugs..  That's all it had to say....
Hello, Im back finally, with my drugged up daughter in tow, just kidding, but she cant feel a thing right now and I am a nervous wreck for having to sit in the oposite chair and watch while drills and needles and such was around her face, Im a mother hen I know but it scared me to death, Now Im babying her and glad she can finally rest!

   Anyway, I dont find it far fetched to think this way but what I do find difficult to understand about his, is, I dont think for one minute someone would take Haleigh just to get Misty out of Rons life nor do I think he would ablidge them and not tell LE everything if that was the way it happened, I dont see him bowing down to anyone,  If in fact a family member took Haleigh I dont think they would say anything, they would get her and go and never look back....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 01:19:55 PM
Is there any relative in this family living out of town and not accounted for that could have Haleigh?

Im drawing straws at anything possible at this point ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 01:20:43 PM
Is it rumor or true that Crystal and Amber are cousins, Maybe Amber added fuel to the fire after the 3 day nightmare

and informed Crystal what was going on.....who knows....ugh

Exactly, because someone stated they saw the two girls riding around with Greg that weekend, and in the postings this morning, there was a statement that Johnny Sheffield lives in Satsuma.. Now, I wasn't aware of that.. I though he lived in another county.  But, there has also been speculated postings that both Chad and Crystal were in Satsuma that night that Haleigh disappeared..  Now for those who cannot imagine ron and crystal, here is a bit for thought.  Also the photos of Haleigh's first day at school,  photo at ron's.. recognize the tv.. which is the same one that he had in the bedroom the night Haleigh went missing.. And the photo of her catching the school bus.. one question never came up, who took the photos..  we take for granted that they were taken by short elevator or ron's mom..  Well since they were found on Crystal's Myspace.... what if they were taken by Crystal.. after all she stated in interviews that she and ron got along real good.
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/family2.jpg)

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/family.jpg)

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/schoolphoto.jpg)

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/crystalmyspace.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 01:33:55 PM
Is there any relative in this family living out of town and not accounted for that could have Haleigh?

Im drawing straws at anything possible at this point ::MonkeyEek::

In crestview, there is a Jim Sheffield and his wife..  note: where there was a sighting of Haleigh in a Winn Dixie, that was counted out.. The lady said she saw her wearing a pony tail, walking with a lady, and the woman sang Haleigh,and the little girl turned and looked her in the eye. They drove off in a dark car that looked like a mustang, with a memorial on the care in white letters.

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/tim.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 01:35:49 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

Rose it really isn't that big.. it's really very simple.  someone knocked on that door, or had a key.. Haleigh walked out of that house without even blinking an eye.. She was with someone that she loved and trusted.  Who could she be with.. think how vast their extended families are..... All over Florida, All over the Country.  Would cousins get involved.... mine would, what about yours?   Hey, short elevator would have been out like a light, they just had to be quiet and leave quietly..   Everyone can invision a predator coming in and taking a struggling child out, without problems..  Why is it much more difficult to think that a parent or parents family could do the same thing with out struggle or problems.  Intent is the basis. "I'm going to get Haleigh". thats the planning.  Leave a note, saying I took Haleigh,  and will keep her until you get ride of that girl that's living here thats on drugs..  That's all it had to say....
Hello, Im back finally, with my drugged up daughter in tow, just kidding, but she cant feel a thing right now and I am a nervous wreck for having to sit in the oposite chair and watch while drills and needles and such was around her face, Im a mother hen I know but it scared me to death, Now Im babying her and glad she can finally rest!

   Anyway, I dont find it far fetched to think this way but what I do find difficult to understand about his, is, I dont think for one minute someone would take Haleigh just to get Misty out of Rons life nor do I think he would ablidge them and not tell LE everything if that was the way it happened, I dont see him bowing down to anyone,  If in fact a family member took Haleigh I dont think they would say anything, they would get her and go and never look back....

He doesn't.. He married short elevator....  said he was gonna keep her until Haleigh returned....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 01:37:33 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

Rose it really isn't that big.. it's really very simple.  someone knocked on that door, or had a key.. Haleigh walked out of that house without even blinking an eye.. She was with someone that she loved and trusted.  Who could she be with.. think how vast their extended families are..... All over Florida, All over the Country.  Would cousins get involved.... mine would, what about yours?   Hey, short elevator would have been out like a light, they just had to be quiet and leave quietly..   Everyone can invision a predator coming in and taking a struggling child out, without problems..  Why is it much more difficult to think that a parent or parents family could do the same thing with out struggle or problems.  Intent is the basis. "I'm going to get Haleigh". thats the planning.  Leave a note, saying I took Haleigh,  and will keep her until you get ride of that girl that's living here thats on drugs..  That's all it had to say....
I don't have a problem with that scenario, what I have a problem with is, this extending this long, and someone hasn't seen Haleigh, or hasn't spilled the beans about this, that's my problem. But I just don't think any of this happened, I believe, IMO, that something happened to Haleigh in the trailer that night, and Ron and Misty have the all the answers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 01:38:35 PM
What if   Crystals dad took Haleigh know Misty was out of the house or passed out....and gave her to a family member

of his..Haleigh would not put up a fight if it was her granddad...and he would have known to take her meds with him if

he did do this, and is Johnnys wife a nurse? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 01:39:35 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

Rose it really isn't that big.. it's really very simple.  someone knocked on that door, or had a key.. Haleigh walked out of that house without even blinking an eye.. She was with someone that she loved and trusted.  Who could she be with.. think how vast their extended families are..... All over Florida, All over the Country.  Would cousins get involved.... mine would, what about yours?   Hey, short elevator would have been out like a light, they just had to be quiet and leave quietly..   Everyone can invision a predator coming in and taking a struggling child out, without problems..  Why is it much more difficult to think that a parent or parents family could do the same thing with out struggle or problems.  Intent is the basis. "I'm going to get Haleigh". thats the planning.  Leave a note, saying I took Haleigh,  and will keep her until you get ride of that girl that's living here thats on drugs..  That's all it had to say....
Hello, Im back finally, with my drugged up daughter in tow, just kidding, but she cant feel a thing right now and I am a nervous wreck for having to sit in the oposite chair and watch while drills and needles and such was around her face, Im a mother hen I know but it scared me to death, Now Im babying her and glad she can finally rest!

   Anyway, I dont find it far fetched to think this way but what I do find difficult to understand about his, is, I dont think for one minute someone would take Haleigh just to get Misty out of Rons life nor do I think he would ablidge them and not tell LE everything if that was the way it happened, I dont see him bowing down to anyone,  If in fact a family member took Haleigh I dont think they would say anything, they would get her and go and never look back....

Agreed, I don't see this scenario IMO. I DO believe Misty AND Ron are the key, and it's a d@mn shame this baby girl had to pay for their negligence ......now, get JR outta there before his life is ruined by all this drama.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 01:41:00 PM
Amen IM.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
I don't think any of these people are smart enough to pull this off.  How on earth could these people plan something of this magnitude, much less follow through with it and fool LE and the FBI.  Just my humble opinion here.

I do think Misty is the key here, if only the truth was in her to come forward.

I'm having a hard time thinking about these people pulling anything off also.

Rose it really isn't that big.. it's really very simple.  someone knocked on that door, or had a key.. Haleigh walked out of that house without even blinking an eye.. She was with someone that she loved and trusted.  Who could she be with.. think how vast their extended families are..... All over Florida, All over the Country.  Would cousins get involved.... mine would, what about yours?   Hey, short elevator would have been out like a light, they just had to be quiet and leave quietly..   Everyone can invision a predator coming in and taking a struggling child out, without problems..  Why is it much more difficult to think that a parent or parents family could do the same thing with out struggle or problems.  Intent is the basis. "I'm going to get Haleigh". thats the planning.  Leave a note, saying I took Haleigh,  and will keep her until you get ride of that girl that's living here thats on drugs..  That's all it had to say....
I don't have a problem with that scenario, what I have a problem with is, this extending this long, and someone hasn't seen Haleigh, or hasn't spilled the beans about this, that's my problem. But I just don't think any of this happened, I believe, IMO, that something happened to Haleigh in the trailer that night, and Ron and Misty have the all the answers.


The silence has some of letting our imagination run away....and that would be me ::MonkeyShocked:: and I agree with your theory also.....I just pray she is alive...and I do believe she is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: smiles101 on May 12, 2009, 01:45:24 PM
Hi Monkey's!  Hope everyone is doing well!  Anyhow, I left off on the beginning of thread 13 so I am way behind but I wanted to ask a question that is bugging me.  I tried to ask this question at Art's site but it is unreal how those people argue, rant and rave over there...lol.

Here is my question -  A day or so after Haleigh went missing, it seems like I remember one of the grandma's (gm Neves I believe) saying that something was missing that definately should be there and I think it came out she was talking about Haleigh's breathing machine or nebulizer?  Does anyone remember this and if this is true that her breathing machine is gone, doesn't it make you all think that the person who took her, knew her and that she needed the machine and was someone who didn't plan to harm her?  And, if this is true, who would do this and why?  What would be there reason?  Seems like anyone with half a brain would know that you couldn't just kidnap a child and hide them forever right?





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 01:48:24 PM
Amen IM.

Good to see you NCRG, my days of postin have become few and far between due to all the craziness in my life......that being said I AM still passionate about Haleigh and actively involved in other ways, but it has just been too long and I am scared that ...............well, y'all know what worrie me ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 01:48:45 PM
What if   Crystals dad took Haleigh know Misty was out of the house or passed out....and gave her to a family member

of his..Haleigh would not put up a fight if it was her granddad...and he would have known to take her meds with him if

he did do this, and is Johnnys wife a nurse? 

Yes, Connie Sheffield is a nurse..   Did you notice that LE decided it was family or close to family related, and not stranger abduction.  They know, now its up to the court to decide what to do....  If Crystal wins then Haleigh will be right back home shortly after.  If ron wins, then the war continues, because little ron is still in the house.  Of course the county is out big bucks..  LE has to know what happened and whats going on or have a pretty good idea. They stopped the search's.  We have to wait and see.  Will they charge anyone, well they could.. filing a false report, obstruction of justice.  But to tell you the truth, I think they would all walk...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 01:53:23 PM
Hi Monkey's!  Hope everyone is doing well!  Anyhow, I left off on the beginning of thread 13 so I am way behind but I wanted to ask a question that is bugging me.  I tried to ask this question at Art's site but it is unreal how those people argue, rant and rave over there...lol.

Here is my question -  A day or so after Haleigh went missing, it seems like I remember one of the grandma's (gm Neves I believe) saying that something was missing that definately should be there and I think it came out she was talking about Haleigh's breathing machine or nebulizer?  Does anyone remember this and if this is true that her breathing machine is gone, doesn't it make you all think that the person who took her, knew her and that she needed the machine and was someone who didn't plan to harm her?  And, if this is true, who would do this and why?  What would be there reason?  Seems like anyone with half a brain would know that you couldn't just kidnap a child and hide them forever right?





I don't think that was the intent, I think this run away train of a Case has caused it to go on so long..  I believe the intent was simple, and in Haleigh's best interest.. And the speculation of Haleigh's meds taken from the home.  No predator would have taken the meds, if she had been harmed in the house. who would have had time to think about getting rid of her meds?? The only reason the meds would go missing, is for Haleigh's benefit.. she needed them.  That's love and concern..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 12, 2009, 01:54:59 PM
It is the silence that is deafening in this case, honestly, if LE or the FBI  would just hold a news conference and say something....anything.
 If I let it, this case would have already drove me crazy, I check in here all day long, even at work.  HLN is on constantly at home just in case there is news on Haleigh.
The whole crew in this case is like watching relatives of the movie 'Deliverance', unbelievable.  I shake my head reading about them and what these little children were exposed to.
If I were making up excuses in my mind, I would say someone took her just trying to save her from this family.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 02:06:54 PM
ya know...I hear all this stuff of Ron being such an a$$ and maybe he is/was..I don't know...no one really does..he is not a likable guy perhaps from what we have seen/heard..However, when I look at the pictures of Haleigh and her dad, all I see is love...sorry if that doesn't fit with what others think of him..not from knowing him personally, but from what we "hear"....
Would a  dad who work nights, so heavily into drugs, beats everyone up including the family dog if they had one, would be so bothered to walk/take his little daughter to the bus on her first day of school, making sure that someone took pictures of her for her own scrap book or his when she grew up?  This is a dad who loves his child.....Where was Crystal on her daughter's first day of school? I don't care that she lived an hour or so away, this was an important event for parents...first day of school....She could have spent the night with relatives/friends there and been at that bus stop just like Ron was....jmo..I would have been....jmo again...look at all the other pictures that we see with ron and the kids...they all looked happy to me...
If Ron was/is so abusive, I think that Ron Jr. would have been taken from the home by now...how long have they been looking into this and who is this child still with? ron....jmo again,...
and no, I am not related to Ron, nor am I a friend of his, nor do I think that he is perfect....just trying to be fair to a parent who has a child missing, just like Crystal does....
Misty is the key.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 02:07:26 PM
What if   Crystals dad took Haleigh know Misty was out of the house or passed out....and gave her to a family member

of his..Haleigh would not put up a fight if it was her granddad...and he would have known to take her meds with him if

he did do this, and is Johnnys wife a nurse? 

Yes, Connie Sheffield is a nurse..   Did you notice that LE decided it was family or close to family related, and not stranger abduction.  They know, now its up to the court to decide what to do....  If Crystal wins then Haleigh will be right back home shortly after.  If ron wins, then the war continues, because little ron is still in the house.  Of course the county is out big bucks..  LE has to know what happened and whats going on or have a pretty good idea. They stopped the search's.  We have to wait and see.  Will they charge anyone, well they could.. filing a false report, obstruction of justice.  But to tell you the truth, I think they would all walk...


I  guess at this point we all will have to play the waiting game. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 02:08:21 PM
Just for you monkeys...this is hard work.  Thought you might need a break.
(http://)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 02:08:49 PM
Amen IM.

Good to see you NCRG, my days of postin have become few and far between due to all the craziness in my life......that being said I AM still passionate about Haleigh and actively involved in other ways, but it has just been too long and I am scared that ...............well, y'all know what worrie me ::MonkeyNoNo::
Hey Island,  yea I know what worries you and the same thing worries me, its been a long time and I think is someone had taken Haleigh that has any ties at all to anyone  in this family they would have  already been found by LE or they would have already been found to be missing and unable for LE to find them, I think when the LE says not a stranger abduction, they mean that the person knew them, or knew misty and ron and had some kind of problem with them and this is how it was settled, I personally still think Misty knows exactly where Haleigh is and what happened to her, She is the #1 guilty party here, with Ronald running a close second.......MOO!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 02:08:56 PM
muwahahahahaha
that was my first try.
sorry.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:09:39 PM
Here are two new photos I found.. Our ladies just before an interview..
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/crystalbeforeinterview.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/marie.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 02:15:24 PM
ya know...I hear all this stuff of Ron being such an a$$ and maybe he is/was..I don't know...no one really does..he is not a likable guy perhaps from what we have seen/heard..However, when I look at the pictures of Haleigh and her dad, all I see is love...sorry if that doesn't fit with what others think of him..not from knowing him personally, but from what we "hear"....
Would a  dad who work nights, so heavily into drugs, beats everyone up including the family dog if they had one, would be so bothered to walk/take his little daughter to the bus on her first day of school, making sure that someone took pictures of her for her own scrap book or his when she grew up?  This is a dad who loves his child.....Where was Crystal on her daughter's first day of school? I don't care that she lived an hour or so away, this was an important event for parents...first day of school....She could have spent the night with relatives/friends there and been at that bus stop just like Ron was....jmo..I would have been....jmo again...look at all the other pictures that we see with ron and the kids...they all looked happy to me...
If Ron was/is so abusive, I think that Ron Jr. would have been taken from the home by now...how long have they been looking into this and who is this child still with? ron....jmo again,...
and no, I am not related to Ron, nor am I a friend of his, nor do I think that he is perfect....just trying to be fair to a parent who has a child missing, just like Crystal does....
Misty is the key.....
I see where your coming from, I do, but after the way she has been treated by Ron and his entire family, and she does have a baby to care for and maybe thats not and excuse but Im just saying, she probably would have had to argue the entire time she was standing at that bus stop with Ronald while they waited on that bus to get there, Haleigh was already upset  about going to school and I dont think she needed to hear all that at the same time, its a fact that Ronald would, in fact cuss Crystal out the same way he did Misty that night, thats just a fact, thats how he is and we all heard him, and even with a  911 operator on the phone thats how he talked to this girl that he ended up marrying later, He  would have cussed Crystal out the same way only 100 times worse if she dared to defy him and showed up if he didnt want her there!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 02:17:02 PM
Amen IM.

Good to see you NCRG, my days of postin have become few and far between due to all the craziness in my life......that being said I AM still passionate about Haleigh and actively involved in other ways, but it has just been too long and I am scared that ...............well, y'all know what worrie me ::MonkeyNoNo::
Good to see you, hope all is going well and you had a happy Mother's Day. I'm afraid the outcome is not going to be good, but then one just never knows, miracles do happen.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:17:55 PM
ya know...I hear all this stuff of Ron being such an a$$ and maybe he is/was..I don't know...no one really does..he is not a likable guy perhaps from what we have seen/heard..However, when I look at the pictures of Haleigh and her dad, all I see is love...sorry if that doesn't fit with what others think of him..not from knowing him personally, but from what we "hear"....
Would a  dad who work nights, so heavily into drugs, beats everyone up including the family dog if they had one, would be so bothered to walk/take his little daughter to the bus on her first day of school, making sure that someone took pictures of her for her own scrap book or his when she grew up?  This is a dad who loves his child.....Where was Crystal on her daughter's first day of school? I don't care that she lived an hour or so away, this was an important event for parents...first day of school....She could have spent the night with relatives/friends there and been at that bus stop just like Ron was....jmo..I would have been....jmo again...look at all the other pictures that we see with ron and the kids...they all looked happy to me...
If Ron was/is so abusive, I think that Ron Jr. would have been taken from the home by now...how long have they been looking into this and who is this child still with? ron....jmo again,...
and no, I am not related to Ron, nor am I a friend of his, nor do I think that he is perfect....just trying to be fair to a parent who has a child missing, just like Crystal does....
Misty is the key.....

I guess you didn't read the posting on the photos, they were taken from Crystal's myspace... Who do you think may have taken the photos...  If they are in Crystal's possessions, whom do they belong to?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:18:47 PM
Just for you monkeys...this is hard work.  Thought you might need a break.
(http://)

Thank you so much... that was great...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 02:19:52 PM
muwahahahahaha
that was my first try.
sorry.
Looks good  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 02:20:46 PM
Crystal took her own picture.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 02:21:28 PM
muwahahahahaha
that was my first try.
sorry.


mmm...good  ::MonkeyTongue::Just what I needed...Thank you Thunder Bunny...your just a thoughtful little monkey ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:25:02 PM
For those who think these things don't happen with parents..

The new Amber Alert, Statesville, NC. Occurred yesterday.
Grandparents who were shopping with 3 year old grandson in Shopping center..  Mother walked into store, took the child.. Left, with Child in Arms.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:26:04 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
Hi Monkey's!  Hope everyone is doing well!  Anyhow, I left off on the beginning of thread 13 so I am way behind but I wanted to ask a question that is bugging me.  I tried to ask this question at Art's site but it is unreal how those people argue, rant and rave over there...lol.

Here is my question -  A day or so after Haleigh went missing, it seems like I remember one of the grandma's (gm Neves I believe) saying that something was missing that definately should be there and I think it came out she was talking about Haleigh's breathing machine or nebulizer?  Does anyone remember this and if this is true that her breathing machine is gone, doesn't it make you all think that the person who took her, knew her and that she needed the machine and was someone who didn't plan to harm her?  And, if this is true, who would do this and why?  What would be there reason?  Seems like anyone with half a brain would know that you couldn't just kidnap a child and hide them forever right?


hello smiles!

As far as I know, it has not been determined what was missing. There has been much speculation, but no determination of what was missing. In fact, in that same interview when it was said something of Haleigh's was missing, it was also stated that LE did not want her to say what the item was.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 02:36:57 PM
Hi Brandi,

I love your new avitar ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 02:37:54 PM
AVATAR sorry never claimed to be a good speller ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 02:38:12 PM
Amen IM.

Good to see you NCRG, my days of postin have become few and far between due to all the craziness in my life......that being said I AM still passionate about Haleigh and actively involved in other ways, but it has just been too long and I am scared that ...............well, y'all know what worrie me ::MonkeyNoNo::
Hey Island,  yea I know what worries you and the same thing worries me, its been a long time and I think is someone had taken Haleigh that has any ties at all to anyone  in this family they would have  already been found by LE or they would have already been found to be missing and unable for LE to find them, I think when the LE says not a stranger abduction, they mean that the person knew them, or knew misty and ron and had some kind of problem with them and this is how it was settled, I personally still think Misty knows exactly where Haleigh is and what happened to her, She is the #1 guilty party here, with Ronald running a close second.......MOO!!

ITA on all points!!! Also, I belive the LE has always looked at this as a NON- stranger abduction, remember in the beginning when they stated they were calling it an abduction to gain attention and because they never knew what time she truly went missing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 02:39:46 PM
Hi Brandi,

I love your new avitar ::MonkeyAngel::

Thank you!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 02:42:10 PM
Amen IM.

Good to see you NCRG, my days of postin have become few and far between due to all the craziness in my life......that being said I AM still passionate about Haleigh and actively involved in other ways, but it has just been too long and I am scared that ...............well, y'all know what worrie me ::MonkeyNoNo::
Hey Island,  yea I know what worries you and the same thing worries me, its been a long time and I think is someone had taken Haleigh that has any ties at all to anyone  in this family they would have  already been found by LE or they would have already been found to be missing and unable for LE to find them, I think when the LE says not a stranger abduction, they mean that the person knew them, or knew misty and ron and had some kind of problem with them and this is how it was settled, I personally still think Misty knows exactly where Haleigh is and what happened to her, She is the #1 guilty party here, with Ronald running a close second.......MOO!!

ITA on all points!!! Also, I belive the LE has always looked at this as a NON- stranger abduction, remember in the beginning when they stated they were calling it an abduction to gain attention and because they never knew what time she truly went missing.


IM....how is your grandson?       

One thing for certain is there is no leaks in the Putman County LE


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 02:45:47 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

yes.  I agree she took those pictures of Haleigh going to school.  She took the photo of herself before going on camera after makeup.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:47:10 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

yes.  I agree she took those pictures of Haleigh going to school.  She took the photo of herself before going on camera after makeup.

Hon, I don't know.. could have been family, or it could have been a photographer.. they are posted on Marie's myspace.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 02:56:20 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

yes.  I agree she took those pictures of Haleigh going to school.  She took the photo of herself before going on camera after makeup.

Hon, I don't know.. could have been family, or it could have been a photographer.. they are posted on Marie's myspace.
Her arms are up holding the camera.  When Travis and I take a picture on my phone, we hold it that way.... awwww, you can get on marie's myspace???  :::looking around in wonder at the girl with cute glasses:::::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 02:57:06 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

yes.  I agree she took those pictures of Haleigh going to school.  She took the photo of herself before going on camera after makeup.

I kept thinking one way and it hit me you were asking if she had them taken before an interview. Yes, the same time as Marie, I have a photo of them together in the same room.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 12, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
WELCOME MELISB. I'm not the smartest  monkey, either when it comes to being computer savvy. Thankfully, all the sweet monkeys here help and are very patient.
 ::cartwheel::                               ::MonkeyAngel::                                                         ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 03:00:40 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

yes.  I agree she took those pictures of Haleigh going to school.  She took the photo of herself before going on camera after makeup.

Hon, I don't know.. could have been family, or it could have been a photographer.. they are posted on Marie's myspace.
Her arms are up holding the camera.  When Travis and I take a picture on my phone, we hold it that way.... awwww, you can get on marie's myspace???  :::looking around in wonder at the girl with cute glasses:::::



Oh yes, I do, complete...... been over it with fine tooth comb, along with Crystals.. and families, Connie has one, so does Johnny, and many more.....  Cute photos with Connie while the kids are in the pool.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:02:14 PM
Amen IM.

Good to see you NCRG, my days of postin have become few and far between due to all the craziness in my life......that being said I AM still passionate about Haleigh and actively involved in other ways, but it has just been too long and I am scared that ...............well, y'all know what worrie me ::MonkeyNoNo::
Hey Island,  yea I know what worries you and the same thing worries me, its been a long time and I think is someone had taken Haleigh that has any ties at all to anyone  in this family they would have  already been found by LE or they would have already been found to be missing and unable for LE to find them, I think when the LE says not a stranger abduction, they mean that the person knew them, or knew misty and ron and had some kind of problem with them and this is how it was settled, I personally still think Misty knows exactly where Haleigh is and what happened to her, She is the #1 guilty party here, with Ronald running a close second.......MOO!!

ITA on all points!!! Also, I belive the LE has always looked at this as a NON- stranger abduction, remember in the beginning when they stated they were calling it an abduction to gain attention and because they never knew what time she truly went missing.


IM....how is your grandson?       

One thing for certain is there is no leaks in the Putman County LE


Mymonkey ~ he is doing great!! Thanks for asking, he is up tp 3 lbs 7 oz I just found out and they are weaning him off the oscillator, and he is eating 12ml's every feeding....best Mother's Day ever knowing his is doing great.

Amen on the no leaks........for once, I'd love just a small dribble if they can't get a leak out ::MonkeyDevil::


ELI on Mother's Day

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 03:08:28 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

yes.  I agree she took those pictures of Haleigh going to school.  She took the photo of herself before going on camera after makeup.

Hon, I don't know.. could have been family, or it could have been a photographer.. they are posted on Marie's myspace.
Her arms are up holding the camera.  When Travis and I take a picture on my phone, we hold it that way.... awwww, you can get on marie's myspace???  :::looking around in wonder at the girl with cute glasses:::::

Marie's MySpace
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=420148756

Look in the who's who thread, there are MySpace links posted for many of the family members, some of them are private but Marie's is not


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:11:31 PM
 ::MonkeyRoll:: Ummmmmmmmmm, sorry about that size thing!!!!! You'd think by now I would know to resize the d@mn photos ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 03:12:12 PM
IM, Elijah is getting so big, pretty soon you will be able to bring him home  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:18:21 PM
IM, Elijah is getting so big, pretty soon you will be able to bring him home  ::MonkeyDance::

Especially in THAT picture~ LOL.......I know he is getting big, and I've already bought some realy special things for the little fighter, even  new home........we close Monday ::cartwheel:: Now, my next move will be to Memorial Gardens, enough of that stuff ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:24:53 PM
IM, Elijah is getting so big, pretty soon you will be able to bring him home  ::MonkeyDance::

Especially in THAT picture~ LOL.......I know he is getting big, and I've already bought some realy special things for the little fighter, even  new home........we close Monday ::cartwheel:: Now, my next move will be to Memorial Gardens, enough of that stuff ::MonkeyWink::

Your just a excited grandmother when posting a grands pic...he is a cutie and growing, In a blink of an eye  he will be

eating his first birthday cake :: ::MonkeyAngel:::they grow up so fast ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:31:10 PM
IM, Elijah is getting so big, pretty soon you will be able to bring him home  ::MonkeyDance::

Especially in THAT picture~ LOL.......I know he is getting big, and I've already bought some realy special things for the little fighter, even  new home........we close Monday ::cartwheel:: Now, my next move will be to Memorial Gardens, enough of that stuff ::MonkeyWink::

Your just a excited grandmother when posting a grands pic...he is a cutie and growing, In a blink of an eye  he will be

eating his first birthday cake :: ::MonkeyAngel:::they grow up so fast ::MonkeyWaa::

Yes~that I am. I know how quickly they grow, but apparantley he is more ::MonkeyDevil:: than  ::MonkeyAngel:: according to the NICU nurses, they call him a wannabe red head because they say he has a temper like a red head.....but, that is s good thing for preemies.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 03:45:56 PM
What if   Crystals dad took Haleigh know Misty was out of the house or passed out....and gave her to a family member

of his..Haleigh would not put up a fight if it was her granddad...and he would have known to take her meds with him if

he did do this, and is Johnnys wife a nurse? 

I would think , if that were the case, if they would have been thinking they would have called LE and they would have had a good child abuse or child neglect case against Ronald.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:49:42 PM
Ron  Has a way with LE so who knows he gets away with a lot.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 03:51:51 PM
and as a grandparent I know I am overprotective of my granddaughters more so than I was with my own child.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 04:11:54 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 04:28:35 PM
::MonkeyRoll:: Ummmmmmmmmm, sorry about that size thing!!!!! You'd think by now I would know to resize the d@mn photos ::MonkeyTongue::



I was just looking at the pic again....it looks like he already is using a key broad. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 04:34:13 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 



My brain might be foggy...but was she caught with the drugs in her car not the house?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 12, 2009, 04:34:17 PM
::MonkeyRoll:: Ummmmmmmmmm, sorry about that size thing!!!!! You'd think by now I would know to resize the d@mn photos ::MonkeyTongue::



I was just looking at the pic again....it looks like he already is using a key broad. ::MonkeyHaHa::
That is because it's on my keyboard ::MonkeyAngel::.......it was a photo of my photo of him, good pick up!!!!!!!!!!! He's already a monkey in training. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 04:40:19 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 


You got it Wyks.

Good to see you, miss you posting!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 04:40:27 PM

With LE saying that they do believe this is an abduction case, not by strangers, but by family or someone known to the family.. and then remembering what Tim Miller from Equusearch said as he left, 'this is not what it seems', and who hasn't come back.. it does lead me to believe that Haleigh is still alive somewhere.  Still not sure the who/why/what/where/how of it all. 

And am thinking that LE may know exactly what happened and the who/why/where/how, but may not have the actual proof needed yet.  Could be what they are waiting on.   To me, that says Haleigh is safe wherever she is, or they would have made their move, IMO.  Well, I'd much rather think it's that, since there aren't any signs that she has died, than to think that LE is clueless in Satsuma. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 04:48:17 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 


Heart posted this this morning..
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Apparently, its part of the family War....  They also posted Johnny's and there was nothing to do with Dog fighting, but apparently he has a temper and found it very hard to contain..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 04:48:40 PM

With LE saying that they do believe this is an abduction case, not by strangers, but by family or someone known to the family.. and then remembering what Tim Miller from Equusearch said as he left, 'this is not what it seems', and who hasn't come back.. it does lead me to believe that Haleigh is still alive somewhere.  Still not sure the who/why/what/where/how of it all. 

And am thinking that LE may know exactly what happened and the who/why/where/how, but may not have the actual proof needed yet.  Could be what they are waiting on.   To me, that says Haleigh is safe wherever she is, or they would have made their move, IMO.  Well, I'd much rather think it's that, since there aren't any signs that she has died, than to think that LE is clueless in Satsuma. 


tHIS IS it EXACTLY Wyks!!  You put into words what I've been unable to say.  Thank you!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 04:50:41 PM
:::do I really have to go to work::::?:::: big groan::::::can't I just call off:::::wahhh::::I've got the tuesday blues.    Have a nice night everyone~~~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 04:51:34 PM

You got it Wyks.

Good to see you, miss you posting!

Thanks Heart!  Been keeping up with the reading, just had to back off on the posting for awhile.  Sometimes we just need to take a break and I've pretty much been there.  Have posted here and there in a couple diff threads, and still am feeling too overwhelmed to leap right back fully in.  I do appreciate your posts among others, Heart, so very informative! 

Been wondering how I'll feel when/if... we get the news one day that Haleigh has been returned to her father, that it was not exactly as worrisome as it seemed.  For the range of emotions that we've all had over this case.. how will we feel????  Happy for Haleigh, that she's alive.. Fear for her future going back in that situation.. Anger at spending so much time worrying about her, while it seems others in her own family haven't been?  I dunno... guess we'll see when/if the time comes.  That's another reason I've backed off a bit from this case. 

If this whole thing turns out to be just a bitch fight between two young girls who seem spoiled and don't want to grow up, well... I may have to pull on some @ss-kickin boots and pay them a visit!     


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 04:58:08 PM

With LE saying that they do believe this is an abduction case, not by strangers, but by family or someone known to the family.. and then remembering what Tim Miller from Equusearch said as he left, 'this is not what it seems', and who hasn't come back.. it does lead me to believe that Haleigh is still alive somewhere.  Still not sure the who/why/what/where/how of it all. 

And am thinking that LE may know exactly what happened and the who/why/where/how, but may not have the actual proof needed yet.  Could be what they are waiting on.   To me, that says Haleigh is safe wherever she is, or they would have made their move, IMO.  Well, I'd much rather think it's that, since there aren't any signs that she has died, than to think that LE is clueless in Satsuma. 


tHIS IS it EXACTLY Wyks!!  You put into words what I've been unable to say.  Thank you!   ::MonkeyCool::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  You're welcome, Thunder Bunny!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 04:59:46 PM
:::do I really have to go to work::::?:::: big groan::::::can't I just call off:::::wahhh::::I've got the tuesday blues.    Have a nice night everyone~~~

Awwwww.. doncha hate when that happens?  Hope you have a good night anyway!   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 05:00:58 PM
Hello everyone!....I am finally here...new to the cage but not new to the case...I have been following the case since day one and reading on here since about the frist thread....decided to join ya'll....you monkeys are great!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 12, 2009, 05:02:30 PM
Welcome My2Cents!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 05:03:51 PM

Hi and welcome My2Cents!  And welcome to all other new monkeys!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TiggerKitty on May 12, 2009, 05:11:16 PM
Welcome to the monkey cage My2Cents! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 12, 2009, 05:13:14 PM


Welcome my2cents.....yu have just joined a  great group of people...Have fun ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
Back to the older posting of the marriage license ya'll were discussing the witness signatures "Katrina Belcher" and I found this

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

Instrument: 386951 Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD 
Book: 823 File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00 Description: 2000 0210 


 From To
BELCHER ERIC WADE EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE

and this

Instrument: 432847 Trans Code: CCJ - CERTIFIED COPY OF A COURT JUDG 
Book: 885 File Date: 02-22-2002
Consideration: $ 0.00 Description: 02-19-02 $628.13 ETAL 


 From To
GP COMMUNITY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION BELCHER KATRINA
 SYKES KATRINA M AKA

I guess she is another one of gr-g sykes relatives....probably doesn't matter ...just identifying all of the players. Wish I could make out the first name of the second person?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 12, 2009, 05:34:06 PM
Welcome my2cents....

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 12, 2009, 05:43:19 PM
Welcome MY2CENTS!!!  I am very very very new, and these wonderful people put up with me every day.  :)  For this, and because the mods are so fantastic, I'm so thankful they DO put up with me and respond to my stupid questions.  :::thank you all:::  and without further ado, I REALLY AM going to work now. (I've been putting on my face and hair)   ::big huge sigh::::  I'm so torn, I think I'd like to go back to days, but am worried about $$, but gosh it'd be nice to have nights and weekends off.  And even better to get more than 3 or 4 hours of sleep a night when I'm working.  :::lone wolf howl:::::  ok, I'm going.....bummer for me.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 05:46:42 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 


Heart posted this this morning..
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Apparently, its part of the family War....  They also posted Johnny's and there was nothing to do with Dog fighting, but apparently he has a temper and found it very hard to contain..

Sorry mlee, but I do not understand your post.

Also it would be interesting to know just how old Crystal was when her parents allowed Ronald (who had/was not married to their daughter) to live under their roof. The same Ronald that Marie said that she attempted to get her 14 year old daughter away from.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 05:50:20 PM
Hello everyone!....I am finally here...new to the cage but not new to the case...I have been following the case since day one and reading on here since about the frist thread....decided to join ya'll....you monkeys are great!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/Animation3-2.gif)

Nice to have you join us, mycents!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 05:54:10 PM
Welcome MY2CENTS!!!  I am very very very new, and these wonderful people put up with me every day.  :)  For this, and because the mods are so fantastic, I'm so thankful they DO put up with me and respond to my stupid questions.  :::thank you all:::  and without further ado, I REALLY AM going to work now. (I've been putting on my face and hair)   ::big huge sigh::::  I'm so torn, I think I'd like to go back to days, but am worried about $$, but gosh it'd be nice to have nights and weekends off.  And even better to get more than 3 or 4 hours of sleep a night when I'm working.  :::lone wolf howl:::::  ok, I'm going.....bummer for me.   ::MonkeyCool::

Don't work too hard Thunder Bunny!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 06:01:08 PM
Hello everyone!....I am finally here...new to the cage but not new to the case...I have been following the case since day one and reading on here since about the frist thread....decided to join ya'll....you monkeys are great!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Welcome/Animation3-2.gif)

Nice to have you join us, my2cents!

*Edited to correct your name. Sorry, some days I just cannot type!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 06:05:24 PM

You got it Wyks.

Good to see you, miss you posting!

Thanks Heart!  Been keeping up with the reading, just had to back off on the posting for awhile.  Sometimes we just need to take a break and I've pretty much been there.  Have posted here and there in a couple diff threads, and still am feeling too overwhelmed to leap right back fully in.  I do appreciate your posts among others, Heart, so very informative! 

Been wondering how I'll feel when/if... we get the news one day that Haleigh has been returned to her father, that it was not exactly as worrisome as it seemed.  For the range of emotions that we've all had over this case.. how will we feel????  Happy for Haleigh, that she's alive.. Fear for her future going back in that situation.. Anger at spending so much time worrying about her, while it seems others in her own family haven't been?  I dunno... guess we'll see when/if the time comes.  That's another reason I've backed off a bit from this case. 

If this whole thing turns out to be just a bitch fight between two young girls who seem spoiled and don't want to grow up, well... I may have to pull on some @ss-kickin boots and pay them a visit!     


ITA and I would have to pull on my boots and pay a visit to Palatka/Satsuma with you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 06:05:25 PM
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new monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
Welcome my2cents!

We look forward to reading your 2cents!

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 06:27:45 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Candle Light Vigil
Posted on May 12th, 2009
by Stone in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Central Florida-  In a strange turn of events Haleigh Cummings family will be attending a candle light vigil held by the Never Lose Hope Foundation along with the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. There in Central Florida, Orlando/Lake Mary Location. I have been covering Haleigh since almost the day she vanished. I was appalled to know at one point George Anthony had gone to Satsuma to lend his assistance to Ron Cummings when Haleigh was first reported missing.

I honestly don’t trust the Anthony’s as far as I can spit. For them to be aiding in a case of any missing child is backwards they did not once search for Caylee nor have they admitted who the true murderer is. They continue to promote a lie of her murderer and support the true criminal. I hope that this is just a way for Haleigh’s family to get her back into the media’s eye. Shed some focus on her, it is well needed. I don’t know much about Never Lose Hope Foundation accept they search for missing children. This Candle light vigil is nation wide that day. There is one set up in Roseburg Oregon let me tell you something about Oregonians we love a candle lighting. So I am going to keep watch of the news I would like to see what its about.

I only have few concerns with Haleigh being mixed up with NLHF and CMAF and thats the past actions of the Anthony’s. I understand they lost a grandchild and don’t want to lose a daughter. I can empathize to a point for them. I just think that Haleigh could be represented in a better way other then through this. Yes she needs the attention I for one fully understand that fact. Is this the right attention to be linked to the CMAF? I just don’t see the positive light in it. Haleigh already has so much negative aspects hindering her recovery. There is a cast of characters in this mix that drives you up a wall, I just don’t think that the Anthony’s are the attention Haleigh needs through all of this. But thats just my opinion.

I just wonder what type of advice and goodwill the Anthony’s will extend to Haleigh’s family I am rather interested in finding out. I will be making sure to stay tuned to the event. The vigil is going to be on May 17, 2009 between 7-8pm.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120854


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 06:31:41 PM
Hello everyone!....I am finally here...new to the cage but not new to the case...I have been following the case since day one and reading on here since about the frist thread....decided to join ya'll....you monkeys are great!
WELCOME glad to have you join us  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 06:32:33 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Candle Light Vigil
Posted on May 12th, 2009
by Stone in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Central Florida-  In a strange turn of events Haleigh Cummings family will be attending a candle light vigil held by the Never Lose Hope Foundation along with the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. There in Central Florida, Orlando/Lake Mary Location. I have been covering Haleigh since almost the day she vanished. I was appalled to know at one point George Anthony had gone to Satsuma to lend his assistance to Ron Cummings when Haleigh was first reported missing.

I honestly don’t trust the Anthony’s as far as I can spit. For them to be aiding in a case of any missing child is backwards they did not once search for Caylee nor have they admitted who the true murderer is. They continue to promote a lie of her murderer and support the true criminal. I hope that this is just a way for Haleigh’s family to get her back into the media’s eye. Shed some focus on her, it is well needed. I don’t know much about Never Lose Hope Foundation accept they search for missing children. This Candle light vigil is nation wide that day. There is one set up in Roseburg Oregon let me tell you something about Oregonians we love a candle lighting. So I am going to keep watch of the news I would like to see what its about.

I only have few concerns with Haleigh being mixed up with NLHF and CMAF and thats the past actions of the Anthony’s. I understand they lost a grandchild and don’t want to lose a daughter. I can empathize to a point for them. I just think that Haleigh could be represented in a better way other then through this. Yes she needs the attention I for one fully understand that fact. Is this the right attention to be linked to the CMAF? I just don’t see the positive light in it. Haleigh already has so much negative aspects hindering her recovery. There is a cast of characters in this mix that drives you up a wall, I just don’t think that the Anthony’s are the attention Haleigh needs through all of this. But thats just my opinion.

I just wonder what type of advice and goodwill the Anthony’s will extend to Haleigh’s family I am rather interested in finding out. I will be making sure to stay tuned to the event. The vigil is going to be on May 17, 2009 between 7-8pm.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120854

Yeah, I wrote an email yesterday about that:

Quote
On your website, you have a page for "National Vigil For Hope, Sunday May 17th, 2009. It is located at:  http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cayleemarieanthonyfoundation/specialevents.html  under your "Special Events" tab.

You did not even spell Haleigh Cummings' name correctly.

For a foundation that says they care about missing children, one would think you might try to get the names of them spelled correctly.

I hope you take the time to make this correction.

They sent me an automated reply, saying they'd get back to me soon.

They have not gotten back to me and they have not corrected the spelling of Haleigh on the page yet.

Just thought I'd mention that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 06:33:12 PM
You have to wonder what is going on in that little town? I was wondering why the last sherriff left , after doing some seraching I figured out it was just election time Jeff Hardy ran against Dean Kelley and Hardy won. I was reading some posts from the locals during the election and found this very interesting

PUTNAM VOTER
Orange Park, FL
 Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#20 Jan 4, 2008
DEAN RUNS A DIRTY SHOW.IF YOU TURN SOMEONE IN ON A STUPID MINOR CHARGE.AND YOU ARE A MAJOR DRUG DEALER.WHO EVEN IS TRAFFICING DRUGS. YOU CAN DEAL DRUGS AND FRAUD,AND NOW YOU CAN BE ASSURED THE SHERIFFS DEPT WILL NOT BOTHER YOU, FOR THE MINOR EXCHANGE,SEE THE DEALER HAD TO PUT THIS PERSON TO SLEEP OR THE POOR GUY WAS TAKEN HIM DOWN ON TRAFFICING DRUGS IN PUTNAM COUNTY, BUT NOW THEY ARE BOTH DEALING BIGGER , DUE TO THE PROTECTION OF THE DEPT. THIS IS WRONG.AND THE DEALERS ARE CONVICTED RAPIST AND A CONVICTED MURDER. AND SHE IS A FORMER PROSTITUTE.NEW TO THE COUNTY , THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS,CLEAN UP ALL THE WAY NOT FOR THE MINOR CRAP.THE DEPT WAS TOLD OVER AND OVER ABOUT THESE FOLKS, BUT NOW THEY ARE PROTECTED, SELLING BIGGER AND BETTER THANK YOU SHERIFF WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE. DRIVE BY HARDIES DRIVE THRU WINDOW AND THE ELDERELY BLONDE LADY WILL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE SUBSCRIPTION PILL DEALERS. INITIALS SV.I WONT COME FORWARD AGAIN BECAUSE IM AFRAID THE SHERIFFS DEPT WILL TAKE ME OUT FOR JAY WALKING, FOR TRYING TO TURN THEM IN .TRIED ONCE BEFORE AND IT BACKFIRED I WAS THE ONE PUNISHED.I WILL NEVER TRY TO TURN IN ANOTHER DRUG DEALER AGAIN IN THIS TOWN.THEY COULDNT HAVE CARED LESS AND I CONSIDER MYSELF A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. 

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-fl/TOJA6J2CHJPIJRQHB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 06:40:19 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 


Heart posted this this morning..
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Apparently, its part of the family War....  They also posted Johnny's and there was nothing to do with Dog fighting, but apparently he has a temper and found it very hard to contain..

Sorry mlee, but I do not understand your post.

Also it would be interesting to know just how old Crystal was when her parents allowed Ronald (who had/was not married to their daughter) to live under their roof. The same Ronald that Marie said that she attempted to get her 14 year old daughter away from.

From what ron's mother said, Crystal moved into her house when she was 13 or 14..  And when as per Art Harris,  ron and crystal were living in Johnny and Connie's house, so it may well be that it was sometime after that.....   You, posted the Art Harris posting.. I copied it from your posting and put it up for Wyks to read, my statement is.. that Johnny was not charged with dog fighting, he was charged with having a stolen dog.. the rest of his charges are for fighting with people...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
You have to wonder what is going on in that little town? I was wondering why the last sherriff left , after doing some seraching I figured out it was just election time Jeff Hardy ran against Dean Kelley and Hardy won. I was reading some posts from the locals during the election and found this very interesting

PUTNAM VOTER
Orange Park, FL
 Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#20 Jan 4, 2008
DEAN RUNS A DIRTY SHOW.IF YOU TURN SOMEONE IN ON A STUPID MINOR CHARGE.AND YOU ARE A MAJOR DRUG DEALER.WHO EVEN IS TRAFFICING DRUGS. YOU CAN DEAL DRUGS AND FRAUD,AND NOW YOU CAN BE ASSURED THE SHERIFFS DEPT WILL NOT BOTHER YOU, FOR THE MINOR EXCHANGE,SEE THE DEALER HAD TO PUT THIS PERSON TO SLEEP OR THE POOR GUY WAS TAKEN HIM DOWN ON TRAFFICING DRUGS IN PUTNAM COUNTY, BUT NOW THEY ARE BOTH DEALING BIGGER , DUE TO THE PROTECTION OF THE DEPT. THIS IS WRONG.AND THE DEALERS ARE CONVICTED RAPIST AND A CONVICTED MURDER. AND SHE IS A FORMER PROSTITUTE.NEW TO THE COUNTY , THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS,CLEAN UP ALL THE WAY NOT FOR THE MINOR CRAP.THE DEPT WAS TOLD OVER AND OVER ABOUT THESE FOLKS, BUT NOW THEY ARE PROTECTED, SELLING BIGGER AND BETTER THANK YOU SHERIFF WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE. DRIVE BY HARDIES DRIVE THRU WINDOW AND THE ELDERELY BLONDE LADY WILL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE SUBSCRIPTION PILL DEALERS. INITIALS SV.I WONT COME FORWARD AGAIN BECAUSE IM AFRAID THE SHERIFFS DEPT WILL TAKE ME OUT FOR JAY WALKING, FOR TRYING TO TURN THEM IN .TRIED ONCE BEFORE AND IT BACKFIRED I WAS THE ONE PUNISHED.I WILL NEVER TRY TO TURN IN ANOTHER DRUG DEALER AGAIN IN THIS TOWN.THEY COULDNT HAVE CARED LESS AND I CONSIDER MYSELF A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. 

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-fl/TOJA6J2CHJPIJRQHB


First, Welcome 2-cents, make yourself at home..  And thank you for that posting.. it certainly does begin to explain how deep that county was allowed to sink.. And it also proves the point of a discussion held the other day about people being afraid to come forward with any information they may have on this case..  You did a great job in finding that... Thank you..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 07:19:20 PM
From what ron's mother said, Crystal moved into her house when she was 13 or 14..  And when as per Art Harris,  ron and crystal were living in Johnny and Connie's house, so it may well be that it was sometime after that.....   You, posted the Art Harris posting.. I copied it from your posting and put it up for Wyks to read, my statement is.. that Johnny was not charged with dog fighting, he was charged with having a stolen dog.. the rest of his charges are for fighting with people...

BBM.......... oh I forgot to answer BBM means Bold By Me...  ::MonkeyTongue::

mlee: So this charge is not for dog fighting it's for having a stolen dog?


UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03   Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM    
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W

Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2004-08-03   1   COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO
2004-08-03   1   KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS
2004-08-03   1   CRUELTY TO ANIMALS
2004-08-03   1   ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS
2004-08-03   1   ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS
2004-08-31   2   INFORMATION (CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING)
2004-09-14   3   CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $1004.00
2004-10-14   4   ARREST REPORT - CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING -
2004-10-14   4   BOND SET AT $1004.00
2004-10-14   5   $1004.00 A-1 BAIL BONDS II - #2004-AA-77111
2004-10-14   6   DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
2004-10-14   7   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (11-10-2004)
2004-10-18   8   CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2004-11-10   9   ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT (BILL BOOKHAMMER)
2004-11-10   9   ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 12/14/2004
2004-11-10   10   AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2004-11-10   11   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2004-11-10   12   ORDER FOR PRE TRIAL CONFERENCE
2004-11-16   13   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12-14-2004)
2004-12-14   14   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2004-12-14   14   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2004-12-14   14   CONTINUED TO 01/18/2005 AT 1:30 PM
2004-12-17   15   NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-18-2005)
2005-01-18   16   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2005-01-18   16   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2005-01-18   16   SET FOR PLEA DAY 01/20/2005
2005-01-20   17   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON
2005-01-20   17   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO THE LESSER CRUELTY TO
2005-01-20   17   ANIMALS
2005-01-20   17   ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE
2005-01-20   17   PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING - DEFENDANT
2005-01-20   17   ADJUDGED GUILTY, ORDERED TO PAY $241.50 COURT COST, $250
2005-01-20   17   COST OF PROSECUTION AND $40 PUBLIC DEFENDER APP FEE,
2005-01-20   17   COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN, SENTENCED TO 1 DAY PCJ
2005-01-20   17   WITH 1 DAY CREDIT
2005-02-03   18   JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE - ENT MIN CIR CT BK PG
2005-02-04   19   CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
2005-02-22   20   CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE
2005-02-22   20   RECORDED OR BK 1017 PG 753
2005-09-23   21   NOTICE OF HEARING RETURNED UNEXECUTED
2005-09-23   21   DEFT NOT IN JAIL
2005-09-23   22   DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
2005-09-23   22   EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
2005-09-26   23   DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2005-09-26   23   EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN
2005-09-29   24   MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY
2005-09-30   25   MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES - COURT HEARD
2005-09-30   25   DEFENSE MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY - GRANTED -
2005-09-30   25   SONY CAMCORDER SERIAL #1528521 RET'D TO DEFT


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 12, 2009, 07:35:13 PM
maven,

I looked it up also when I read that post and this stood out to me as well:

Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 07:43:52 PM
If a close family member abducted Haleigh , its a dam shame she is not attending school , seeing her brother and not seeing family members...This is cold hearted and cruel ::MonkeyTongue::


The Missing Children Program is an initiative that enlists the cooperation of numerous local and state agencies in pursuing investigations of reported missing children. Section 937.023, Florida Statutes, and Rule 6A-6.083, Florida Administrative Code, prescribe the roles of the Florida Department of Education (DOE) and individual school districts in this effort.

Each month, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) provides the DOE with a data file comprising the names of children who have been reported missing to local law enforcement agencies and entered in the Florida Crime Information Center (FCIC) database. The DOE then makes this data available for school districts to access through the Northwest Regional Data Center (NWRDC).

School districts are responsible for comparing this information with their own student database records to establish any matches between the names of children reported as missing and names of students in the district. Districts then report possible matches, using the ESE 092 form, both to the local law enforcement agency which originated the case and to the DOE. As the children in question are identified and located, the original law enforcement agency can then remove the solved cases from the FCIC database. Forms may be faxed to Becky Spencer at (850) 245-9097 or mailed to Florida Department of Education, Education Information and Accountability Services, 325 W Gaines St., Rm 852, Tallahassee, FL 32399-0400. The file name/number for downloading the Missing Children information is DPS.DISTRICT.GP.F60544.

Edit to add link from JerseyGirl:
http://www.fldoe.org/eias/eiaspubs/missing.asp


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 07:54:14 PM
maven,

I looked it up also when I read that post and this stood out to me as well:

Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS



That stood out to me too Brandi, sounds like more than dog thievery to me.

The story on AH is a bit much IMO. Ron certainly doesn't need help in making himself look bad, he does a good enough job of that on his own.  I think there is much more to the stories than AH chose to share, or that was shared with AH, and I'm sure that Johnny was not an angel or an innocent victim in any of it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 07:58:18 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Candle Light Vigil


Just thought I'd mention that.

Thanks Brandi!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 08:10:47 PM
Hello Monkeys, Im back again!!!   I had to tun around and take my daughter right back to the dentist for and emergency again, OMG  Im tired 2 times in one day is bad onher!  maybe its over for today for her!   God Bless Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Marie has also been arrested for distributing drugs right? when Crystal was younger? does that have anything to do with finding Haleigh? who were her contacts then? a deal gone wrong all those years ago? anything is possible if we are going to consider ALL family members back grounds....



Never seen any records on that Cookie.. and I have gone over the arrest records.. So.. I don't think that is a path to go on.  The closer records available, and info that has come out about drug issues that are current that would even spell the word revenge is setting on ron and short elevators laps only..  No way around it, cannot be redirected to a past speculation. I read the same rumor the other day, think thats where you found it.. I believe that is an attempt to redirect.

no, that is not where I saw it...
someone on here had posted a record for Marie...guaranteed....I read it on here...She was I believe arrested for distributing drugs and it was Crystal was younger...


I remember reading the record for Marie, it was early in the case, and yep, when Crystal was younger.  Didn't she run a drug house while hubby was fighting dogs? 


Heart posted this this morning..
Good Morning Monkeys and guests!

#460  Art Harris Says:
May 12th, 2009 at 1:46 am

2 spunky:

Before you convict J Sheffield here, I will point out a trail of bad blood between the clans ever since Crystal and Ronald were together and lived with Johnny and Connie, his wife who works as a nurse. He’s also ex-Marine who served his country and did time serving Putnam County as a sheriff’s deputy…so let’s balance the attacks…

…and he’s fiercely loyal to his daughter, naturally, and has tales to tell about Ronald as a sort of son in law who lived with them for a while during his Crystal phase, until his wife, Connie, a nurse, found him unpacking two bricks of marijuana from a paper bag he’d brought home, while also growing pot in the back yard…He also told me a story about Ronald picking up two dogs that appeared to be lost on the side of the road. Johnny says they were starving and he took one home and Ronald took the other. Next thing he knows, he’s up against a police car, accused of dog thieving, claims Ronald knew all along the dogs belonged to a friend, and never told him.

At the time, Cummings denied he had anything to do with it, but Sheffield tells me a deputy there advised his former colleague it was Ronald who had ried to frame him. Ronald could not be reached for comment.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments

Apparently, its part of the family War....  They also posted Johnny's and there was nothing to do with Dog fighting, but apparently he has a temper and found it very hard to contain..

Sorry mlee, but I do not understand your post.

Also it would be interesting to know just how old Crystal was when her parents allowed Ronald (who had/was not married to their daughter) to live under their roof. The same Ronald that Marie said that she attempted to get her 14 year old daughter away from.

From what ron's mother said, Crystal moved into her house when she was 13 or 14..  And when as per Art Harris,  ron and crystal were living in Johnny and Connie's house, so it may well be that it was sometime after that.....   You, posted the Art Harris posting.. I copied it from your posting and put it up for Wyks to read, my statement is.. that Johnny was not charged with dog fighting, he was charged with having a stolen dog.. the rest of his charges are for fighting with people...

Thanks mlee for posting that.  A stolen dog is not what I'm remembering tho, altho that could have happened as well.  What I am remembering happened back early on in this case when folks were finding court charges against different people and posting those as found.  I read actual court charges against Johnny Sheffield specifically for dog fighting and animal cruelty.  I'd try to track it down in court records if I knew how to do that. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 08:14:58 PM
Unexcused absences.... ::MonkeyTongue::

(a)  Upon each unexcused absence, or absence for which the reason is unknown, the school principal or his or her designee shall contact the student's parent to determine the reason for the absence. If the absence is an excused absence, as defined by district school board policy, the school shall provide opportunities for the student to make up assigned work and not receive an academic penalty unless the work is not made up within a reasonable time.

(b)  If a student has had at least five unexcused absences, or absences for which the reasons are unknown, within a calendar month or 10 unexcused absences, or absences for which the reasons are unknown, within a 90-calendar-day period, the student's primary teacher shall report to the school principal or his or her designee that the student may be exhibiting a pattern of nonattendance. The principal shall, unless there is clear evidence that the absences are not a pattern of nonattendance, refer the case to the school's child study team to determine if early patterns of truancy are developing. If the child study team finds that a pattern of nonattendance is developing, whether the absences are excused or not, a meeting with the parent must be scheduled to identify potential remedies, and the principal shall notify the district school superintendent and the school district contact for home education programs that the referred student is exhibiting a pattern of nonattendance.

(c)  If an initial meeting does not resolve the problem, the child study team shall implement the following:

1.  Frequent attempts at communication between the teacher and the family.

2.  Evaluation for alternative education programs.

3.  Attendance contracts.

The child study team may, but is not required to, implement other interventions, including referral to other agencies for family services or recommendation for filing a truancy petition pursuant to s. 984.151.

(d)  The child study team shall be diligent in facilitating intervention services and shall report the case to the district school superintendent only when all reasonable efforts to resolve the nonattendance behavior are exhausted.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1003/SEC26.HTM&Title=->2008->Ch1003->Section%2026#1003.26



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 12, 2009, 08:19:05 PM
maven,

I looked it up also when I read that post and this stood out to me as well:

Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS



There ya go!  That's what I remembered reading before, thanks!!  There may have also been what they are talking about, stolen dogs etc.  But this is not the same thing at all, IMO. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 08:21:43 PM
Thank you Muffy Bee.... ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 12, 2009, 08:26:55 PM
Thank you Muffy Bee.... ::MonkeyAngel::

YW  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ospainter on May 12, 2009, 08:43:52 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Candle Light Vigil
Posted on May 12th, 2009
by Stone in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Central Florida-  In a strange turn of events Haleigh Cummings family will be attending a candle light vigil held by the Never Lose Hope Foundation along with the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. There in Central Florida, Orlando/Lake Mary Location. I have been covering Haleigh since almost the day she vanished. I was appalled to know at one point George Anthony had gone to Satsuma to lend his assistance to Ron Cummings when Haleigh was first reported missing.
I honestly don’t trust the Anthony’s as far as I can spit. For them to be aiding in a case of any missing child is backwards they did not once search for Caylee nor have they admitted who the true murderer is. They continue to promote a lie of her murderer and support the true criminal. I hope that this is just a way for Haleigh’s family to get her back into the media’s eye. Shed some focus on her, it is well needed. I don’t know much about Never Lose Hope Foundation accept they search for missing children. This Candle light vigil is nation wide that day. There is one set up in Roseburg Oregon let me tell you something about Oregonians we love a candle lighting. So I am going to keep watch of the news I would like to see what its about.

I only have few concerns with Haleigh being mixed up with NLHF and CMAF and thats the past actions of the Anthony’s. I understand they lost a grandchild and don’t want to lose a daughter. I can empathize to a point for them. I just think that Haleigh could be represented in a better way other then through this. Yes she needs the attention I for one fully understand that fact. Is this the right attention to be linked to the CMAF? I just don’t see the positive light in it. Haleigh already has so much negative aspects hindering her recovery. There is a cast of characters in this mix that drives you up a wall, I just don’t think that the Anthony’s are the attention Haleigh needs through all of this. But thats just my opinion.

I just wonder what type of advice and goodwill the Anthony’s will extend to Haleigh’s family I am rather interested in finding out. I will be making sure to stay tuned to the event. The vigil is going to be on May 17, 2009 between 7-8pm.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120854

I see Ron Cumming's named mentioned in this article, someone emailed me the following and ask me to share it here.

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cay...ialevents.html
Kidfinders

I followed Michelle Bart's link to her myspace from there..
http://www.myspace.com/nationalvigilforhope

Crystal and Marie are myspace friends of Michelle Bart, so is it them who is going to the event?

ME: someone that knows Crystal or Marie might want to let them know about Kidfinders.

OS

PS: miss everyone, hope all is well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 12, 2009, 08:49:53 PM
Good evening ospainter.  We miss you too!    ::MonkeyAngel::








Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: San on May 12, 2009, 08:54:13 PM
Hi ospainter good to see you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ospainter on May 12, 2009, 09:01:46 PM
Hi ospainter good to see you.

Hi Muffy and San

Wow get to see you both at the same time.

HUGS,

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 12, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Candle Light Vigil
Posted on May 12th, 2009
by Stone in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Central Florida-  In a strange turn of events Haleigh Cummings family will be attending a candle light vigil held by the Never Lose Hope Foundation along with the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. There in Central Florida, Orlando/Lake Mary Location. I have been covering Haleigh since almost the day she vanished. I was appalled to know at one point George Anthony had gone to Satsuma to lend his assistance to Ron Cummings when Haleigh was first reported missing.
I honestly don’t trust the Anthony’s as far as I can spit. For them to be aiding in a case of any missing child is backwards they did not once search for Caylee nor have they admitted who the true murderer is. They continue to promote a lie of her murderer and support the true criminal. I hope that this is just a way for Haleigh’s family to get her back into the media’s eye. Shed some focus on her, it is well needed. I don’t know much about Never Lose Hope Foundation accept they search for missing children. This Candle light vigil is nation wide that day. There is one set up in Roseburg Oregon let me tell you something about Oregonians we love a candle lighting. So I am going to keep watch of the news I would like to see what its about.

I only have few concerns with Haleigh being mixed up with NLHF and CMAF and thats the past actions of the Anthony’s. I understand they lost a grandchild and don’t want to lose a daughter. I can empathize to a point for them. I just think that Haleigh could be represented in a better way other then through this. Yes she needs the attention I for one fully understand that fact. Is this the right attention to be linked to the CMAF? I just don’t see the positive light in it. Haleigh already has so much negative aspects hindering her recovery. There is a cast of characters in this mix that drives you up a wall, I just don’t think that the Anthony’s are the attention Haleigh needs through all of this. But thats just my opinion.

I just wonder what type of advice and goodwill the Anthony’s will extend to Haleigh’s family I am rather interested in finding out. I will be making sure to stay tuned to the event. The vigil is going to be on May 17, 2009 between 7-8pm.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120854

I see Ron Cumming's named mentioned in this article, someone emailed me the following and ask me to share it here.

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cay...ialevents.html
Kidfinders

I followed Michelle Bart's link to her myspace from there..
http://www.myspace.com/nationalvigilforhope

Crystal and Marie are myspace friends of Michelle Bart, so is it them who is going to the event?

ME: someone that knows Crystal or Marie might want to let them know about Kidfinders.

OS

PS: miss everyone, hope all is well.

Hey, Im back again  daughter had to make another emergency trip back to the dentist, whew Im wore out and so is she,   what a day..........I agree someone should and someone will   lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 09:23:24 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

how do you know this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 12, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
Haleigh Cummings: Candle Light Vigil
Posted on May 12th, 2009
by Stone in Op-ed, Society and Culture


Central Florida-  In a strange turn of events Haleigh Cummings family will be attending a candle light vigil held by the Never Lose Hope Foundation along with the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. There in Central Florida, Orlando/Lake Mary Location. I have been covering Haleigh since almost the day she vanished. I was appalled to know at one point George Anthony had gone to Satsuma to lend his assistance to Ron Cummings when Haleigh was first reported missing.
I honestly don’t trust the Anthony’s as far as I can spit. For them to be aiding in a case of any missing child is backwards they did not once search for Caylee nor have they admitted who the true murderer is. They continue to promote a lie of her murderer and support the true criminal. I hope that this is just a way for Haleigh’s family to get her back into the media’s eye. Shed some focus on her, it is well needed. I don’t know much about Never Lose Hope Foundation accept they search for missing children. This Candle light vigil is nation wide that day. There is one set up in Roseburg Oregon let me tell you something about Oregonians we love a candle lighting. So I am going to keep watch of the news I would like to see what its about.

I only have few concerns with Haleigh being mixed up with NLHF and CMAF and thats the past actions of the Anthony’s. I understand they lost a grandchild and don’t want to lose a daughter. I can empathize to a point for them. I just think that Haleigh could be represented in a better way other then through this. Yes she needs the attention I for one fully understand that fact. Is this the right attention to be linked to the CMAF? I just don’t see the positive light in it. Haleigh already has so much negative aspects hindering her recovery. There is a cast of characters in this mix that drives you up a wall, I just don’t think that the Anthony’s are the attention Haleigh needs through all of this. But thats just my opinion.

I just wonder what type of advice and goodwill the Anthony’s will extend to Haleigh’s family I am rather interested in finding out. I will be making sure to stay tuned to the event. The vigil is going to be on May 17, 2009 between 7-8pm.

http://www.bloggernews.net/120854

I see Ron Cumming's named mentioned in this article, someone emailed me the following and ask me to share it here.

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cay...ialevents.html
Kidfinders

I followed Michelle Bart's link to her myspace from there..
http://www.myspace.com/nationalvigilforhope

Crystal and Marie are myspace friends of Michelle Bart, so is it them who is going to the event?

ME: someone that knows Crystal or Marie might want to let them know about Kidfinders.

OS

PS: miss everyone, hope all is well.

Hey, Im back again  daughter had to make another emergency trip back to the dentist, whew Im wore out and so is she,   what a day..........I agree someone should and someone will   lol

OS, the link you provided: 
http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cay...ialevents.html  takes me here:

Page not found
The page you are looking for might have been removed,
had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:30:16 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

how do you know this?

Why don't you go to her myspace page and look over her photographs and then you can make your own conclusion..
http://www.myspace.com/crystalsheffield


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
Good evening monkeys...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 09:37:22 PM
Jerome:  ::MonkeyRoll::

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753945&IMG=51200

JEROME  RAYMOND  WILLIAMS
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/12/2009 9:22:10 PM  - Booking#: 09-01875
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/9/1971 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
365.16-1b   HARASSING COMMUNICATION PHONE CALL   M   S    $0.00    
806.13-1b1   DAMAGE PROP-CRIM MISCH 200 DOLS OR LESS SUBSQ OFF   F   T    $0.00    
322.03-1   NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL OPERATE MOTOR VEHICLE WO VALID LICENSE   M   S    $0.00    
320.261-   NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL ATTACH REGISTRATION LICENSE PLATE NOT ASSIGNED   M   S    $504.00    5/10/2009 7:49:45 PM
322.03-1   NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL OPERATE MOTOR VEHICLE WO VALID LICENSE   M   S    $504.00    5/10/2009 7:50:09 PM
316.1935-1   FLEE/ELUDE POLICE FAIL TO OBEY LEO ORDER TO STOP   F   T    $2,504.00    5/10/2009 7:48:21 PM
893.13-6b   MARIJUANA-POSSESS NOT MORE THAN 20 GRAMS   M   F    $504.00    5/10/2009 7:49:11 PM
893.13-6a   DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION   F   T    $1,004.00    5/10/2009 7:46:33 PM
893.13-1a1   COCAINE-DISTRIB SCHEDULE II   F   S    $5,004.00    
893.135-1c1   DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST   F   F    $0.00    
893.13-6a   COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $11,028.00    



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 09:40:43 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 09:42:02 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?

No, Crystal's page has been private for a while now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
well shoot...I try to check the myspaces every so often in case they leave them open for a second like misty did lol...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:48:55 PM
maven,

I looked it up also when I read that post and this stood out to me as well:

Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS



That stood out to me too Brandi, sounds like more than dog thievery to me.

The story on AH is a bit much IMO. Ron certainly doesn't need help in making himself look bad, he does a good enough job of that on his own.  I think there is much more to the stories than AH chose to share, or that was shared with AH, and I'm sure that Johnny was not an angel or an innocent victim in any of it.

The variance is two topics going at one time.. We have a discussion of Art's and we have his criminal history posted..

He was charged with the acts but reading a bit closer.. He was never convicted.  He also plead not guilty..  When he did accept a plea bargain  This is what occurred.

2004-11-10   9   ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 12/14/2004

2005-01-20   17   W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO THE LESSER CRUELTY TO
2005-01-20   17   ANIMALS


No, he was never convicted of fighting dogs, of owning the location, or attending.
Being charged and being convicted are two different worlds.  So, no he is not guilty of the charges you listed.  Only the one he plead out to.. Cruelty to Animals.  Now, there is still the issue that Art was speaking of.. and that doesn't show up does it?
And Art's info came from a discussion with Johnny Sheffield.  Now, why would Johnny not be telling the truth, if he knew it was going out to the public? And trust me Art has probably pulled all of their records.  It's as easy for him to do as it is for us. And very possible he has far more info about these issues, then we can even begin to imagine.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ospainter on May 12, 2009, 09:51:23 PM


Hey, Im back again  daughter had to make another emergency trip back to the dentist, whew Im wore out and so is she,   what a day..........I agree someone should and someone will   lol
[/quote]

OS, the link you provided: 
http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cay...ialevents.html  takes me here:

Page not found
The page you are looking for might have been removed,
had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

[/quote]

Heart

Sorry, this is the one I hope.

http://dennismilstead.fatcow.com/cayleemarieanthonyfoundation/specialevents.html  (this is the kidsfinder guy dennis milstead.)

OS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
Crystal took her own picture.

No, she took the photos of Haleigh getting ready for school and at the bus stop..

how do you know this?

Why don't you go to her myspace page and look over her photographs and then you can make your own conclusion..
http://www.myspace.com/crystalsheffield

I don't go on Myspace and I am sure that there are plenty of others who don't either...that is why I asked you how you know, if it isn't stated where the pictures are at, how is one to know? especially if they are unable to read each post ....thanks for the  "answer" ?....at least I know where the pictures are....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 09:51:48 PM
well shoot...I try to check the myspaces every so often in case they leave them open for a second like misty did lol...

I already check the pics on myspace for Connie, Johnny aka Marty, Crystal, Marie and Fibsy mom sister out.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 09:52:09 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?

No, Crystal's page has been private for a while now.


One way to resolve that.. open up a myspace and send a request to be her friend.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 09:53:50 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?

No, Crystal's page has been private for a while now.


One way to resolve that.. open up a myspace and send a request to be her friend.

LOL ...... No Thanks, I don't ever use my space except to look at players profiles, and if they are private they stay that way to me  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 09:59:03 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?

No, Crystal's page has been private for a while now.


One way to resolve that.. open up a myspace and send a request to be her friend.


that is a good idea... ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:01:31 PM
IM...your little grand son is darling...Got a good look at him from the picture you provided...cutey...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 10:02:44 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:04:58 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?

No, Crystal's page has been private for a while now.


One way to resolve that.. open up a myspace and send a request to be her friend.


that is a good idea... ::MonkeyRoll::

When you do, give me your user name, and I will pull you in as a friend also..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 10:09:05 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::
And what about the matress? Now I no I had a waterproof protector on my kids beds when they were little, I wonder if they did? I wonder if the matress was wet?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:11:25 PM
Fibsty mom sister site....http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=213847184

Connie....http://www.myspace.com/connielittlebit

Johnny...http://www.myspace.com/sheffieldjohnny


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:12:10 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

If that one drives you crazy...  here are a few more questions posted on Art's site today..

LisaE Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I have been mulling over your and Cobra’s comments from your 5/10/09 interview with Simon Barrett at BNN, particularly the hypotheses about Teresa Neves possibly bringing over clean clothes to pack for a trip and Ron possibly arranging a phony abduction to derail in investigation by DFS(my guess would be regarding Haleigh’s frequent unexcused school absences).

Here is what I would like to know:
1) Did Haleigh have a favorite blanket, doll, or stuffed animal that she always slept with and was it still there when Crystal and Marie Griffis came to Ron’s trailer days later to pack up Haleigh’s belongings?

2) Has anyone asked Teresa Neves and Misty separately for descriptions of the cleanly laundered items Teresa purportedly delivered to Ron’s trailer at 7 pm the night in question? Do Teresa and Misty’s stories match? Can they recall any items belonging to Haleigh?

3) Among the boxes of Haleigh’s items that Crystal and Marie Griffis packed up in Ron’s trailer, are the cleanly laundered items mentioned by Teresa and Misty in those boxes?

4) Now that Crystal has both parents’ sets of clothes for Haleigh, does she notice any PJs or specific outfits missing?

5) Have teachers described what Haleigh wore her last day and is that outfit in the boxes packed by Crystal and Marie?

5) Has LE looked at Teresa and Ron’s credit card records to see if any children’s clothing purchases were made in Feb. (Note: Feb is a notoriously slow season at retail due to people continue to wear the same clothes they wore in Dec and Jan. A large purchase of kids clothes would be a red flag)

I think that answers to these questions could answer whether this was a faked abduction.

I am quite sure that LisaE would like answers.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 10:13:43 PM
From what ron's mother said, Crystal moved into her house when she was 13 or 14..  And when as per Art Harris,  ron and crystal were living in Johnny and Connie's house, so it may well be that it was sometime after that.....   You, posted the Art Harris posting.. I copied it from your posting and put it up for Wyks to read, my statement is.. that Johnny was not charged with dog fighting, he was charged with having a stolen dog.. the rest of his charges are for fighting with people...

BBM & underline by me
I was only posting this one charge of his, (there were many others to choose from) because of the statement above.
Nobody ever said he was convicted........ but charged he was.


Johnny Sheffield
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 10:16:28 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

You know if  Mistys brother came over around 5 - 5:30 and let the kids play etc. I am guessing that is when he picked up the van....someone had to drive the other vehicle back....wonder who that was?.....must have been the a/c man or gr-g sykes because we all know nobody else was there that day....whatever   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:20:17 PM
I thought that it was Granny Sykes who brought the clean clothes to the house that night? No?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

If that one drives you crazy...  here are a few more questions posted on Art's site today..

LisaE Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I have been mulling over your and Cobra’s comments from your 5/10/09 interview with Simon Barrett at BNN, particularly the hypotheses about Teresa Neves possibly bringing over clean clothes to pack for a trip and Ron possibly arranging a phony abduction to derail in investigation by DFS(my guess would be regarding Haleigh’s frequent unexcused school absences).

Here is what I would like to know:
1) Did Haleigh have a favorite blanket, doll, or stuffed animal that she always slept with and was it still there when Crystal and Marie Griffis came to Ron’s trailer days later to pack up Haleigh’s belongings?

2) Has anyone asked Teresa Neves and Misty separately for descriptions of the cleanly laundered items Teresa purportedly delivered to Ron’s trailer at 7 pm the night in question? Do Teresa and Misty’s stories match? Can they recall any items belonging to Haleigh?

3) Among the boxes of Haleigh’s items that Crystal and Marie Griffis packed up in Ron’s trailer, are the cleanly laundered items mentioned by Teresa and Misty in those boxes?

4) Now that Crystal has both parents’ sets of clothes for Haleigh, does she notice any PJs or specific outfits missing?

5) Have teachers described what Haleigh wore her last day and is that outfit in the boxes packed by Crystal and Marie?

5) Has LE looked at Teresa and Ron’s credit card records to see if any children’s clothing purchases were made in Feb. (Note: Feb is a notoriously slow season at retail due to people continue to wear the same clothes they wore in Dec and Jan. A large purchase of kids clothes would be a red flag)

I think that answers to these questions could answer whether this was a faked abduction.

I am quite sure that LisaE would like answers.


 ::MonkeyTongue::
I would like to add when did Mother Teresa actually arrived, departed and came back?

Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor?

When Fibsty picked up Haleigh @ the bus stop why did Ron lie and said he did?

Who dropped the van off @ Fibsty'd sister's house in Jacksonville that day when Fibsty had the van to pick up Haleigh?





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 10:24:27 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

If that one drives you crazy...  here are a few more questions posted on Art's site today..

LisaE Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I have been mulling over your and Cobra’s comments from your 5/10/09 interview with Simon Barrett at BNN, particularly the hypotheses about Teresa Neves possibly bringing over clean clothes to pack for a trip and Ron possibly arranging a phony abduction to derail in investigation by DFS(my guess would be regarding Haleigh’s frequent unexcused school absences).

Here is what I would like to know:
1) Did Haleigh have a favorite blanket, doll, or stuffed animal that she always slept with and was it still there when Crystal and Marie Griffis came to Ron’s trailer days later to pack up Haleigh’s belongings?

2) Has anyone asked Teresa Neves and Misty separately for descriptions of the cleanly laundered items Teresa purportedly delivered to Ron’s trailer at 7 pm the night in question? Do Teresa and Misty’s stories match? Can they recall any items belonging to Haleigh?

3) Among the boxes of Haleigh’s items that Crystal and Marie Griffis packed up in Ron’s trailer, are the cleanly laundered items mentioned by Teresa and Misty in those boxes?

4) Now that Crystal has both parents’ sets of clothes for Haleigh, does she notice any PJs or specific outfits missing?

5) Have teachers described what Haleigh wore her last day and is that outfit in the boxes packed by Crystal and Marie?

5) Has LE looked at Teresa and Ron’s credit card records to see if any children’s clothing purchases were made in Feb. (Note: Feb is a notoriously slow season at retail due to people continue to wear the same clothes they wore in Dec and Jan. A large purchase of kids clothes would be a red flag)

I think that answers to these questions could answer whether this was a faked abduction.

I am quite sure that LisaE would like answers.

And
6) Did LE check to see if there was a damp towel ,wet toothbrush,damp bathtub, any signs of Haleigh getting a bath for school the next day?
7) Did they see if her pillow case was damp from freshly washed hair?
8) Did they smell of her blanket to see if it smelled like it was just washed
9) Did they check the dirty clothes pile to see if there were pee pee panties in the laundry?

don't make me scream....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 10:25:28 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

You know if  Mistys brother came over around 5 - 5:30 and let the kids play etc. I am guessing that is when he picked up the van....someone had to drive the other vehicle back....wonder who that was?.....must have been the a/c man or gr-g sykes because we all know nobody else was there that day....whatever   ::MonkeyWink::

Good question!  Apparently Misty had the van, because witnesses at the bus stop said she picked the kids up that day, which is another thing that makes me (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif) ...... so did her brother and his kids walk there? Were they dropped off? Who knows........... MISTY!!!! .....................Why lie about who picked Haleigh up? I think it is because whatever happened to Haleigh started with, or happened shortly after that incident.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 10:27:27 PM
I just tried the link to Crystals page and it said it was private ? Did I do something wrong or did she just close us out ?

No, Crystal's page has been private for a while now.


One way to resolve that.. open up a myspace and send a request to be her friend.


that is a good idea... ::MonkeyRoll::

When you do, give me your user name, and I will pull you in as a friend also..

okay


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 10:31:19 PM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

You know if  Mistys brother came over around 5 - 5:30 and let the kids play etc. I am guessing that is when he picked up the van....someone had to drive the other vehicle back....wonder who that was?.....must have been the a/c man or gr-g sykes because we all know nobody else was there that day....whatever   ::MonkeyWink::

Good question!  Apparently Misty had the van, because witnesses at the bus stop said she picked the kids up that day, which is another thing that makes me (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif) ...... so did her brother and his kids walk there? Were they dropped off? Who knows........... MISTY!!!! .....................Why lie about who picked Haleigh up? I think it is because whatever happened to Haleigh started with, or happened shortly after that incident.

Did anyone ever hear why RC was flying by the bus that morning? Rumors or anything?  Aparently he was in a hurry but the bus was right there ...he could have just few in there sideways and let her out and been on his way.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 10:32:20 PM
I thought that it was Granny Sykes who brought the clean clothes to the house that night? No?

That is the story I have heard/read.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 10:32:34 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 10:36:41 PM
Did Ron pack up Haleigh's things or did someone else do it and did not pack everything?  Maybe someone else did the packing cause it would have been too hard for Ron to do it and whoever did the packing left the things?
what exactly was left behind?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:36:55 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


This is unforgivable...... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 10:39:50 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


I think if Monkeys had interviewed Ron and mama Neves instead of Miss Nancy ........ we would have many more answers, probably lies, but still answers!!!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:41:26 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


This is unforgivable...... ::MonkeyTongue::

Maybe that has something to do with ron going back over to the trailer..  That leaves the opening for.. Did he not believe that she was never coming home?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:42:14 PM
I know if my child was missing I would not forget to leave anything of my child's personal iitems behind and I would of not even think of moving incase she was returned..

If Ron had time to get married, go to NY and get a tatoo he could of surely made the time to make sure Haleighs things were pack and not left behind.....JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:43:32 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


This is unforgivable...... ::MonkeyTongue::

Maybe that has something to do with ron going back over to the trailer..  That leaves the opening for.. Did he not believe that she was never coming home?

So sad to say but thats what I was thinking.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:45:06 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


I think if Monkeys had interviewed Ron and mama Neves instead of Miss Nancy ........ we would have many more answers, probably lies, but still answers!!!   ::MonkeyDevil::

Not Lies inconsistancies....  ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:46:39 PM
I know if my child was missing I would not forget to leave anything of my child's personal iitems behind and I would of not even think of moving incase she was returned..

If Ron had time to get married, go to NY and get a tatoo he could of surely made the time to make sure Haleighs things were pack and not left behind.....JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::

I forgot to add... I think Ron and Fibsty did not return to the home because they thought it was bugged....... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 10:47:20 PM
I know if my child was missing I would not forget to leave anything of my child's personal iitems behind and I would of not even think of moving incase she was returned..

If Ron had time to get married, go to NY and get a tatoo he could of surely made the time to make sure Haleighs things were pack and not left behind.....JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::

He wouldn't have forgotten..  it had to be intentional.  And, I still wonder why did he move.. It's not like she was harmed in the house.  So why would he be so against staying there.  Where ever he lives, she isn't there, and now we learn her clothes and items aren't either..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:48:13 PM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


It sure does..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 10:50:29 PM
I know if my child was missing I would not forget to leave anything of my child's personal iitems behind and I would of not even think of moving incase she was returned..

If Ron had time to get married, go to NY and get a tatoo he could of surely made the time to make sure Haleighs things were pack and not left behind.....JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::

I forgot to add... I think Ron and Fibsty did not return to the home because they thought it was bugged....... ::MonkeyTongue::

B I N G O ...... I think we have a winner!!!!! I think that is EXACTLY why they would not return to their home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 12, 2009, 10:50:29 PM
I know if my child was missing I would not forget to leave anything of my child's personal iitems behind and I would of not even think of moving incase she was returned..

If Ron had time to get married, go to NY and get a tatoo he could of surely made the time to make sure Haleighs things were pack and not left behind.....JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::
Amen, no matter how grief stricken, my child's belongings would all come with me, period.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 12, 2009, 10:58:03 PM
WELL MONKEYS I THINK I AM GOING TO CALL IT A DAY....KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! GOOD NIGHT


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 10:59:26 PM
Good Night 2cent..... Welcome aboard.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
With Jerome's newest arrest... does anyone think that maybe the heat is on him?  ....... and why? Does LE think he knows what happened to Haleigh?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Good night.. sweet Monkey dreams....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 12, 2009, 11:01:31 PM
good night 2cents....welcome by the way!

nite monkey friends..see you all tomorrow...
hope we get some news...

o/t
don't forget...don't watch LKL tomorrow night when the Anthony's are on his show! thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 11:03:13 PM
Good night.. sweet Monkey dreams....

Good Night melee..... Sweet Monkey Dreams..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 11:03:48 PM
good night 2cents....welcome by the way!

nite monkey friends..see you all tomorrow...
hope we get some news...

o/t
don't forget...don't watch LKL tomorrow night when the Anthony's are on his show! thanks!


What time...?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 11:04:29 PM
Good night.. sweet Monkey dreams....

Good Night melee..... Sweet Monkey Dreams..... ::MonkeyTongue::

I haven't gone yet, was hanging around to see who might pop in.....????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 11:04:48 PM
With Jerome's newest arrest... does anyone think that maybe the heat is on him?  ....... and why? Does LE think he knows what happened to Haleigh?

Wasnt that the second time he was arrested??? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 12, 2009, 11:07:29 PM
With Jerome's newest arrest... does anyone think that maybe the heat is on him?  ....... and why? Does LE think he knows what happened to Haleigh?

Wasnt that the second time he was arrested??? ::MonkeyTongue::

Don't know, haven't kept up with him...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
Good night.. sweet Monkey dreams....

Good Night melee..... Sweet Monkey Dreams..... ::MonkeyTongue::

I haven't gone yet, was hanging around to see who might pop in.....????

Oh I am sorry thought you said Good Night,,,, ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
With Jerome's newest arrest... does anyone think that maybe the heat is on him?  ....... and why? Does LE think he knows what happened to Haleigh?

Wasnt that the second time he was arrested??? ::MonkeyTongue::

See he has me  ::MonkeyConfused:: right now, because he was serving "weekends" for some of these charges and now he's back in there and some are the same charges and some are different. I don't know what's going on with him.... but I think LE may be watching him closely.... question is WHY????  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
With Jerome's newest arrest... does anyone think that maybe the heat is on him?  ....... and why? Does LE think he knows what happened to Haleigh?

Wasnt that the second time he was arrested??? ::MonkeyTongue::

See he has me  ::MonkeyConfused:: right now, because he was serving "weekends" for some of these charges and now he's back in there and some are the same charges and some are different. I don't know what's going on with him.... but I think LE may be watching him closely.... question is WHY????  ::MonkeyConfused::

maybe he is the supplier.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 12, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Good Night Sweet Monkeys...

Getting ready to watch larry king and then hit cage... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 12, 2009, 11:22:53 PM
With Jerome's newest arrest... does anyone think that maybe the heat is on him?  ....... and why? Does LE think he knows what happened to Haleigh?

Wasnt that the second time he was arrested??? ::MonkeyTongue::

Wish I could edit  ::MonkeyTongue::

This is his second time showing up on the jail log ...... THIS WEEK...... on Friday he reported in for his "weekend ..er....duties", and was there for the weekend, tonight he's back, and it shows bond posted on some charges before he was even arrested.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 13, 2009, 01:19:15 AM

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing59.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 13, 2009, 02:12:41 AM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


I think if Monkeys had interviewed Ron and mama Neves instead of Miss Nancy ........ we would have many more answers, probably lies, but still answers!!!   ::MonkeyDevil::


::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TiggerKitty on May 13, 2009, 02:13:20 AM
Beautiful work Brandi! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 13, 2009, 02:13:45 AM
Beautiful new avatar brandi, it's so cool :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 02:59:35 AM
Good thinking tonight Monkeys!  (Worked my butt off.  Am tired.)  I think they were scared to death the house was bugged too.  (If Misty was scared during some phone call that the phone was bugged, imagine thinking the house was bugged.)
Wonder if Cobra rented the house...?
What kind of things were left behind? 
Hell to the no I would not leave the last place my daughter was, thinking she might come back.  Course, he was behind on rent and with no income....ohgosh, I'm tired.  Nevermind. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 13, 2009, 03:32:09 AM
I find it strange that MC said that she washed the blanket because it smelled like pee....I would think that "IF" a 5 year old wet the bed you would have to wash the bed sheet too?

I also think that if you were in a big fight with RC and he was rolling you up in a ball and throwing you against mirrors etc that you would not be allowed to ....or care to get your blanket and some clothes? I would be getting out of there as fast as I could!   ::MonkeyConfused::

Oh... the "story" about the blankets makes me want to (http://bestsmileys.com/frustrated/7.gif)

Yes, I would think that the sheet would need washing too. The blanket in the van "they took", the one that smelled like pee, the one on the window.   ::MonkeyConfused::   ::MonkeyConfused::

If that one drives you crazy...  here are a few more questions posted on Art's site today..

LisaE Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I have been mulling over your and Cobra’s comments from your 5/10/09 interview with Simon Barrett at BNN, particularly the hypotheses about Teresa Neves possibly bringing over clean clothes to pack for a trip and Ron possibly arranging a phony abduction to derail in investigation by DFS(my guess would be regarding Haleigh’s frequent unexcused school absences).

GGM Sykes brought over the clothes not TN.


Here is what I would like to know:
1) Did Haleigh have a favorite blanket, doll, or stuffed animal that she always slept with and was it still there when Crystal and Marie Griffis came to Ron’s trailer days later to pack up Haleigh’s belongings?

GGM Sykes and TN packed up Haleigh's belongings and all the other belongings.

2) Has anyone asked Teresa Neves and Misty separately for descriptions of the cleanly laundered items Teresa purportedly delivered to Ron’s trailer at 7 pm the night in question? Do Teresa and Misty’s stories match? Can they recall any items belonging to Haleigh?

Again GGM Sykes not TN.

3) Among the boxes of Haleigh’s items that Crystal and Marie Griffis packed up in Ron’s trailer, are the cleanly laundered items mentioned by Teresa and Misty in those boxes?

4) Now that Crystal has both parents’ sets of clothes for Haleigh, does she notice any PJs or specific outfits missing?

5) Have teachers described what Haleigh wore her last day and is that outfit in the boxes packed by Crystal and Marie?

5) Has LE looked at Teresa and Ron’s credit card records to see if any children’s clothing purchases were made in Feb. (Note: Feb is a notoriously slow season at retail due to people continue to wear the same clothes they wore in Dec and Jan. A large purchase of kids clothes would be a red flag)

I think that answers to these questions could answer whether this was a faked abduction.

I am quite sure that LisaE would like answers.

Obviously LisaE does not know very much about this case or she is just trying to start rumors.  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 13, 2009, 03:40:47 AM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


If whoever had Haleigh dropped her back off at the trailer then they are very dumb as everybody already knows RC has moved. It has been plastered all over the news channels, news papers, internet and even National news.

What makes you think RC left Haleigh's personal possessions?
Is it just an obviously an ill informed AH poster?
That is how so many rumors get started and end up being 3 pages of posts blaming RC.
That is what is  :gaah: about this case.
Someone posted in on AH so it MUST be true.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 13, 2009, 06:49:15 AM
Good morning all!  Much respect for everyone here!  I do have to be going to work now but after a week or so I just found out I was approved too.  Won't post often but I love to watch everyone brainstorming.  I live in NW FL only 3-4 hrs. away from Caylee and Haleigh and we in this area are hot under the collar about both situations.  Gotta run!  See ya'll late this pm. By the by, I am computer stupid too so if I have to ask how to do something please be patient. ::MonkeyDance::

Welcome to the cage!!!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 13, 2009, 06:55:53 AM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


If whoever had Haleigh dropped her back off at the trailer then they are very dumb as everybody already knows RC has moved. It has been plastered all over the news channels, news papers, internet and even National news.

What makes you think RC left Haleigh's personal possessions?
Is it just an obviously an ill informed AH poster?
That is how so many rumors get started and end up being 3 pages of posts blaming RC.
That is what is  :gaah: about this case.
Someone posted in on AH so it MUST be true.

If you read more closely, you will find that no conclusion came out of the posting from LisaE.  she  was asking questions.. And no question that anyone in this world ask is a bad question or a stupid question..  Second, I don't know exactly where the concept of the clothes being left at the trailer came from, it was not from LisaE. I had hoped for some strange reason in the world, that Monkey's might look at the questions and think.. Hey lets look at each one individually and see if we can find an answer..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 07:41:34 AM
Morning monkees!
first cup of coffee this morning, tasting real good!
No news I see...sadly....same old same old...sigh....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 13, 2009, 08:18:30 AM
Good Morning my monkey friends. Nothing new, I see. Did I see correctly that Jerome was in jail again last night? Is that is part time home?  Gee    ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: melisb on May 13, 2009, 08:32:24 AM
 ::MonkeyWink::Monin' everybody!  No coffee just Pepsi!  I do have to defend AH's site just a little.  It is so entertaining!  He's the only news person (sort of) that report about her.  You can almost tell that some of the players and friends are posting on AH.  I joined here for the great minds and much less mud slinging.  But, the hillbillies in my area and the Cummings/Sheffield 'cast' are exactly what you see is what you get and they have gravitated to his site.  There is one or two of his posters over here now.  This situation is very sad.  These uneducated young girls drop out of high school, get involved in substance abuse (usually stemming from their home life) and the only thing they aspire to is some dweeb like RC who can give them drugs and an instant family.  It doesn't matter how these guys treat them because the alternative is sleeping with multiple men just to secure a roof over their head.  Putting MC in charge of a medically needy child is negligent IMO.  She's very street smart and what has always bothered me is when asked a question from a reporter she can't answer and  looks straight at RC for him to bail her out.  Is he dictating her story?  I so wish LE would put the squeeze on her.  One or two days away from Ron not knowing what he is doing might make her snap.  Yes folks, it is early and I am all over the place!  If you have any ? about these girls and this area just ask me.  Maybe I can help. ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 08:55:20 AM
Good Morning Monkeys  ~  Welcome to the cage melisb ~ 

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/CBonamieW2TGBlank-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 09:02:15 AM
Just checked out the site.  Jerome Williams no bond posted last night.  Looks to be MORE CHARGES ADDED since last night's posting.

JEROME RAYMOND WILLIAMS
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/12/2009 9:22:10 PM  - Booking#: 09-01875
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/9/1971 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
365.16-1b HARASSING COMMUNICATION PHONE CALL M S  $0.00   
806.13-1b1 DAMAGE PROP-CRIM MISCH 200 DOLS OR LESS SUBSQ OFF F T  $0.00   
322.03-1 NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL OPERATE MOTOR VEHICLE WO VALID LICENSE M S  $0.00   
320.261- NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL ATTACH REGISTRATION LICENSE PLATE NOT ASSIGNED M S  $504.00  5/10/2009 7:49:45 PM
322.03-1 NONMOVING TRAFFIC VIOL OPERATE MOTOR VEHICLE WO VALID LICENSE M S  $504.00  5/10/2009 7:50:09 PM
316.1935-1 FLEE/ELUDE POLICE FAIL TO OBEY LEO ORDER TO STOP F T  $2,504.00  5/10/2009 7:48:21 PM
893.13-6b MARIJUANA-POSSESS NOT MORE THAN 20 GRAMS M F  $504.00  5/10/2009 7:49:11 PM
893.13-6a DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION F T  $1,004.00  5/10/2009 7:46:33 PM  
893.13-1a1 COCAINE-SELL SCHEDULE II F S  $5,004.00   
893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F  $0.00   
893.13-6a COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE F T  $1,004.00   
893.13-1a1 COCAINE-SELL SCHEDULE II F S  $5,004.00   
893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F  $0.00   
893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F  $0.00   
893.13-6a COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE F T  $2,504.00   
893.13-1a1 COCAINE-POSSESS WITH INTENT TO SELL MFG DELIV ETC SCHEDULE II F S  $2,504.00   
893.13-1a1 COCAINE-POSSESS WITH INTENT TO SELL MFG DELIV ETC SCHEDULE II F S  $2,504.00   
893.13-1a1 COCAINE-POSSESS WITH INTENT TO SELL MFG DELIV ETC SCHEDULE II F S  $1,004.00   
893.13-1a1 COCAINE-DISTRIB SCHEDULE II F S  $2,504.00   
499.03-3 DRUGS-HEALTH OR SAFETY POSS WIT SELL LEGEND DRUG WO PRESCRIPTION F T  $1,004.00   
893.13-6a DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION F T  $1,004.00   
499.03-1 DRUGS-HEALTH OR SAFETY POSS HARMFUL NEW LEGEND DRUG WO PRESCRIPTION M S  $504.00   
893.147-1 NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE M F  $504.00   
893.13-7a5 DANGEROUS DRUGS KEEP SHOP OR VEHICLE ETC FOR DRUGS 1ST VIOL M F  $504.00   
812.019-1 STOLEN PROP-DEAL IN  F S  $2,504.00   
   
Total bond:  $33,076.00

Bond was alread posted for the charges in RED.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 09:03:44 AM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 13, 2009, 09:09:22 AM
Morning Monnnkeys, and welcome to the new monkeys as well as lurkers..

HAs anyone seen a picture of Crystal and Haleigh together?  Just curious.  mio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 13, 2009, 09:12:26 AM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

yep looks like it's more than last night, his total bond last night was something like $16,000.

cookie I really don't know what is up with these people...but......  all these traffic violations, with other charges to follow   ::MonkeyDevil:: Jerome needs to give up the keys to his car  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 13, 2009, 09:13:20 AM
Good Morning Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

Getting ready to go to work...

It has always bother me that the GGranny story of her bringing clothes over that evening  is true.. The story of GGranny did not come out until 1 week later when
it was in the news that Fibsty was on a 3 day  drug bender and left the home that night so I still am questioning if the GGranny story is true or a cover for the timeline...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 13, 2009, 09:24:58 AM
wow look at this one and he is happy

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754053&IMG=56075

901.04-   OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N   N     $500,000.00    


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 13, 2009, 09:33:19 AM
Morning Monnnkeys, and welcome to the new monkeys as well as lurkers..

HAs anyone seen a picture of Crystal and Haleigh together?  Just curious.  mio

photos on myspace Mio.. also two family photos.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
O/T with this article.  But...definitely worth reading.  Re: LKL and the Anthony's

Casey Anthony: George, Cindy are public-relations flops
George and Cindy Anthony will appear on CNN's Larry King Live Wednesday
Hal Boedeker
11:28 AM EDT, May 12, 2009

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/moretop2/orl-casey-anthony-george-cindy-anthony-cnn-051209,0,2875578.column?track=rss


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 09:36:05 AM
wow look at this one and he is happy

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754053&IMG=56075

901.04-   OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N   N     $500,000.00    

Self-inflicted ..happy..  Probably under the influence of ? ? ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 13, 2009, 09:37:35 AM
Morning Monnnkeys, and welcome to the new monkeys as well as lurkers..

HAs anyone seen a picture of Crystal and Haleigh together?  Just curious.  mio

photos on myspace Mio.. also two family photos.

Yes the one on my space cause i have her as a friend


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 13, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
Now that is a great question....Why would Ron leave personal items of Haleigh @ the trailor? What's up with that? And is it not strange that you would leave the trailer and move, what if who ever took Haleigh just so happened to drop her back off at the trailer? Well, her things would have been there, but no parent to welcome her back. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.


If whoever had Haleigh dropped her back off at the trailer then they are very dumb as everybody already knows RC has moved. It has been plastered all over the news channels, news papers, internet and even National news.

What makes you think RC left Haleigh's personal possessions?
Is it just an obviously an ill informed AH poster?
That is how so many rumors get started and end up being 3 pages of posts blaming RC.
That is what is  :gaah: about this case.
Someone posted in on AH so it MUST be true.
That's pretty much all there is in this case is rumors, sorry about that, it isn't my fault. When there are real facts which at this point in time doesn't seem very likely, I will be glad to read them, but until then there just seems to be rumors.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 13, 2009, 09:45:06 AM
::MonkeyWink::Monin' everybody!  No coffee just Pepsi!  I do have to defend AH's site just a little.  It is so entertaining!  He's the only news person (sort of) that report about her.  You can almost tell that some of the players and friends are posting on AH.  I joined here for the great minds and much less mud slinging.  But, the hillbillies in my area and the Cummings/Sheffield 'cast' are exactly what you see is what you get and they have gravitated to his site.  There is one or two of his posters over here now.  This situation is very sad.  These uneducated young girls drop out of high school, get involved in substance abuse (usually stemming from their home life) and the only thing they aspire to is some dweeb like RC who can give them drugs and an instant family.  It doesn't matter how these guys treat them because the alternative is sleeping with multiple men just to secure a roof over their head.  Putting MC in charge of a medically needy child is negligent IMO.  She's very street smart and what has always bothered me is when asked a question from a reporter she can't answer and  looks straight at RC for him to bail her out.  Is he dictating her story?  I so wish LE would put the squeeze on her.  One or two days away from Ron not knowing what he is doing might make her snap.  Yes folks, it is early and I am all over the place!  If you have any ? about these girls and this area just ask me.  Maybe I can help. ::cartwheel::
WELCOME and I for one sure enjoyed your post  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 13, 2009, 09:46:18 AM
wow look at this one and he is happy

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754053&IMG=56075

901.04-   OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N   N     $500,000.00    
Thanks  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 13, 2009, 09:46:50 AM
::MonkeyWink::Monin' everybody!  No coffee just Pepsi!  I do have to defend AH's site just a little.  It is so entertaining!  He's the only news person (sort of) that report about her.  You can almost tell that some of the players and friends are posting on AH.  I joined here for the great minds and much less mud slinging.  But, the hillbillies in my area and the Cummings/Sheffield 'cast' are exactly what you see is what you get and they have gravitated to his site.  There is one or two of his posters over here now.  This situation is very sad.  These uneducated young girls drop out of high school, get involved in substance abuse (usually stemming from their home life) and the only thing they aspire to is some dweeb like RC who can give them drugs and an instant family.  It doesn't matter how these guys treat them because the alternative is sleeping with multiple men just to secure a roof over their head.  Putting MC in charge of a medically needy child is negligent IMO.  She's very street smart and what has always bothered me is when asked a question from a reporter she can't answer and  looks straight at RC for him to bail her out.  Is he dictating her story?  I so wish LE would put the squeeze on her.  One or two days away from Ron not knowing what he is doing might make her snap.  Yes folks, it is early and I am all over the place!  If you have any ? about these girls and this area just ask me.  Maybe I can help. ::cartwheel::

Welcome to the cage Melisb............I noticed that you are from NW Florida as I am, so welcome neighbor and good to have you in the cage.

Island


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 13, 2009, 09:58:39 AM
Morning Monnnkeys, and welcome to the new monkeys as well as lurkers..

HAs anyone seen a picture of Crystal and Haleigh together?  Just curious.  mio

photos on myspace Mio.. also two family photos.

Yes the one on my space cause i have her as a friend

hey thanks, I have not seen her myspace page.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 13, 2009, 09:59:15 AM
wow look at this one and he is happy

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754053&IMG=56075

901.04-   OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N   N     $500,000.00    
Thanks  ::MonkeyEek::

This guy is only 34yrs old it is quiet scary to see what life does to you if choose the wrong path. ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: starcat29 on May 13, 2009, 10:02:31 AM
wow look at this one and he is happy

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754053&IMG=56075

901.04-   OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N   N     $500,000.00    
Thanks  ::MonkeyEek::

This guy is only 34yrs old it is quiet scary to see what life does to you if choose the wrong path. ::MonkeyShocked::


how sad


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 10:07:38 AM
Mio...made my sweet tea this morning...getting ready for the afternoon ...

Wish we would get some real news so we don't have to listen to rumors...Chinese whispers.....




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 10:10:12 AM
wow look at this one and he is happy

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754053&IMG=56075

901.04-   OUT-OF-COUNTY WARRANT    N   N     $500,000.00    
Thanks  ::MonkeyEek::

This guy is only 34yrs old it is quiet scary to see what life does to you if choose the wrong path. ::MonkeyShocked::

Founs this bit of info.  Could not copy it to post.

He is 6'7" tall and weighs 345#, warrant from Marion County....  Spencer Sean Hickey

http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/person/searchWantedPersons.a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 13, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
Mio...made my sweet tea this morning...getting ready for the afternoon ...

Wish we would get some real news so we don't have to listen to rumors...Chinese whispers.....




Me too, and am having a glass right now.  smiles @ chinese whispers...
and that  smiling guy who was arrested  is creepy for sure..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 13, 2009, 10:19:47 AM
Good Morning Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

Getting ready to go to work...

It has always bother me that the GGranny story of her bringing clothes over that evening  is true.. The story of GGranny did not come out until 1 week later when
it was in the news that Fibsty was on a 3 day  drug bender and left the home that night so I still am questioning if the GGranny story is true or a cover for the timeline...



Me too JG~ I don't trust her nor Mama Neves as they remind me somewhat of Sindy Anthony in covering up and enabling.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 13, 2009, 10:38:38 AM
Good Morning Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

Getting ready to go to work...

It has always bother me that the GGranny story of her bringing clothes over that evening  is true.. The story of GGranny did not come out until 1 week later when
it was in the news that Fibsty was on a 3 day  drug bender and left the home that night so I still am questioning if the GGranny story is true or a cover for the timeline...



Me too JG~ I don't trust her nor Mama Neves as they remind me somewhat of Sindy Anthony in covering up and enabling.

Scary when you think about it since TN and GGM Sykes are the cleanest in the whole bunch from both sides just going by the criminal records.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 13, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
Good Morning Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

Getting ready to go to work...

It has always bother me that the GGranny story of her bringing clothes over that evening  is true.. The story of GGranny did not come out until 1 week later when
it was in the news that Fibsty was on a 3 day  drug bender and left the home that night so I still am questioning if the GGranny story is true or a cover for the timeline...



Me too JG~ I don't trust her nor Mama Neves as they remind me somewhat of Sindy Anthony in covering up and enabling.

Scary when you think about it since TN and GGM Sykes are the cleanest in the whole bunch from both sides just going by the criminal records.

Well, Sindy Anthony has NO criminal record, but she is also an enabler and withholding info...........TN raised a houseful of thugs who probably got off due to her position in the SO (the thin blue line DOES exist especially in small towns), and Sykes is just as bad. I think TN's story smells when you consider the timing of her arrival that night and for Sykes story to come out over  week later makes in truly not credible IMO..........pretty sad characters IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 11:51:53 AM
good night 2cents....welcome by the way!

nite monkey friends..see you all tomorrow...
hope we get some news...

o/t
don't forget...don't watch LKL tomorrow night when the Anthony's are on his show! thanks!


so the email campaign didn't work?  was sure hoping that Larry would pay attention to all that.  sigh

figures that the A's would go on his show, he's well known for being so soft with his guests.  i only watch his show when he has someone on that i like and admire.  have spent too many nights screaming at the screen all the hard-hitting questions that he just doesn't have in him.  he honestly needs to retire and put someone in there who isn't afraid to rock the boat.  but i do like his collection of ties.   ::MonkeyTongue::




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 12:00:29 PM
good night 2cents....welcome by the way!

nite monkey friends..see you all tomorrow...
hope we get some news...

o/t
don't forget...don't watch LKL tomorrow night when the Anthony's are on his show! thanks!


so the email campaign didn't work?  was sure hoping that Larry would pay attention to all that.  sigh

figures that the A's would go on his show, he's well known for being so soft with his guests.  i only watch his show when he has someone on that i like  and admire.  have spent too many nights screaming at the screen all the hard-hitting questions that he just doesn't have in him.  he honestly needs to retire and put someone in there who isn't afraid to rock the boat.  but i do like his collection of ties.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I never watch the show, but I am going to tonight just for the main reason to watch Cindy and George make fools of themselves and to  reassure the listening viewers that they are lying.  So, I take it Wyks, that you will be chosing another show to view??





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 12:02:24 PM
good night 2cents....welcome by the way!

nite monkey friends..see you all tomorrow...
hope we get some news...

o/t
don't forget...don't watch LKL tomorrow night when the Anthony's are on his show! thanks!


so the email campaign didn't work?  was sure hoping that Larry would pay attention to all that.  sigh

figures that the A's would go on his show, he's well known for being so soft with his guests.  i only watch his show when he has someone on that i like  and admire.  have spent too many nights screaming at the screen all the hard-hitting questions that he just doesn't have in him.  he honestly needs to retire and put someone in there who isn't afraid to rock the boat.  but i do like his collection of ties.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Sorry, got my post in with Wyks...

I never watch the show, but I am going to tonight just for the main reason to watch Cindy and George make fools of themselves and to  reassure the listening viewers that they are lying.  So, I take it Wyks, that you will be chosing another show to view??



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe? 

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.' 

Sound about right? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TxLady2 on May 13, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
Good Morning! I wish someone would clear something up for me. I've seen so many posts on every board, and also in Art H. blog regarding Johnny S. being a deputy with the sheriff's dept. But a poster on WS who does a LOT of research claims that he was not a deputy, that he was a corrections officer with the county jail. There is a difference, at least here in Tx.
My son went to work for the sheriff's dept. here about 18 years ago, and it was a requirement then that all new hires had to work in the jail itself for a period of time before moving to patrol. Not sure if it's still that way or not. They do sometimes hire people just as jailers, or corrections officers, though, so it can be a bit confusing. I would like to clear it up in my own mind... was he ever actually a deputy, or did he just work at the jail? Don't ask me why it's important, I can't explain it. And no, I don't have any inside track.... I just want to be clear.
There are so many inconsistencies in this case, on both sides, and rumors get bandied about so much, it's very hard to know what to believe anymore. FWIW, I think Art Harris gets his facts wrong sometimes, too, so I take what is on his side with a grain of salt. Just wish we had more facts to mull over.
Hoping that Haleigh will be found and brought home before we all lose our minds!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 12:22:25 PM
Good Morning Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

Getting ready to go to work...

It has always bother me that the GGranny story of her bringing clothes over that evening  is true.. The story of GGranny did not come out until 1 week later when
it was in the news that Fibsty was on a 3 day  drug bender and left the home that night so I still am questioning if the GGranny story is true or a cover for the timeline...


Same here JG!!  The main reason her story doesn't sit well with me, is because at the time (during that week or so) the various forums were abuzz with questions like: did Misty feed the kids dinner?  did anyone see the kids later that evening after Misty's bro and kids had left?  and etc....   No one had mentioned anything about those things in any interview up to that point. 

And then here she comes in an interview answering several of those exact questions in the info she gave!!!  As if she or someone else had been reading here and other forums and had listed what we wanted to know, then had an interview and was sure to hit those points.  Even tho the one doing the interview hadn't asked those questions of her during the interview.  :2thinky:  VERY suspicious to me!!   

Kind of like Misty's blanket stories, detailed info that came out of nowhere, and much later than one would think reasonable in being remembered.  More like a script of what to say next, rather than a recount of what happened that night.   
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 12:22:58 PM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe? 

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.' 

Sound about right? 


Sounds EXACTLY right!!!!

 But, the law is the law.  Why have they not been FOLLOWING the broken laws...all along.  Why did they get ...slack...in their positions???  Letting the offenders off, instead of instilling the LAW what they were damn well hired to do.  The laws are not made to be just printed on paper, they are made to be abided by and ENFORCED, by those in the postions to do so.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 12:28:41 PM
Good Morning Monkey's... ::MonkeyTongue::

Getting ready to go to work...

It has always bother me that the GGranny story of her bringing clothes over that evening  is true.. The story of GGranny did not come out until 1 week later when
it was in the news that Fibsty was on a 3 day  drug bender and left the home that night so I still am questioning if the GGranny story is true or a cover for the timeline...


Same here JG!!  The main reason her story doesn't sit well with me, is because at the time (during that week or so) the various forums were abuzz with questions like: did Misty feed the kids dinner?  did anyone see the kids later that evening after Misty's bro and kids had left?  and etc....   No one had mentioned anything about those things in any interview up to that point. 

And then here she comes in an interview answering several of those exact questions in the info she gave!!!  As if she or someone else had been reading here and other forums and had listed what we wanted to know, then had an interview and was sure to hit those points.  Even tho the one doing the interview hadn't asked those questions of her during the interview.  :2thinky:  VERY suspicious to me!!   

Kind of like Misty's blanket stories, detailed info that came out of nowhere, and much later than one would think reasonable in being remembered.  More like a script of what to say next, rather than a recount of what happened that night.   
 

Kinda like...throw out there words, that don't mean a damn thing to the investigation, but something that will put ????? into  the case, trying to glue the puzzle pieces together, and the blanket piece doesn't fit. 

The Cummings inconsistencies of the evening and not clarifying the CORRECT statement puts them in the....SPOTLIGHT.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 12:43:24 PM
good night 2cents....welcome by the way!

nite monkey friends..see you all tomorrow...
hope we get some news...

o/t
don't forget...don't watch LKL tomorrow night when the Anthony's are on his show! thanks!


so the email campaign didn't work?  was sure hoping that Larry would pay attention to all that.  sigh

figures that the A's would go on his show, he's well known for being so soft with his guests.  i only watch his show when he has someone on that i like  and admire.  have spent too many nights screaming at the screen all the hard-hitting questions that he just doesn't have in him.  he honestly needs to retire and put someone in there who isn't afraid to rock the boat.  but i do like his collection of ties.   ::MonkeyTongue::

I never watch the show, but I am going to tonight just for the main reason to watch Cindy and George make fools of themselves and to  reassure the listening viewers that they are lying.  So, I take it Wyks, that you will be chosing another show to view??


Very definitely, Grama! 

As I told Larry in an email, I will not watch his show with the A's as guests, because it's just another opportunity for them to elicit sympathy from the public.  They disgust me so much at this point, I don't want to hear or see them ever again.  And it's sad to me that they are being allowed airtime on these shows just to attempt to improve their public image, which is IMO too far gone shot to h3ll anyway.  I don't want to hear more of their lies.  The only way IMO to get that message across to LKL and others with shows who watch the ratings of each, is to simply not tune in at all.  That speaks louder than a thousand emails. 

Ya know Cindy is going to lie, put on a great act, or both.  IMO she's only said one true thing since this whole thing started.  In the 911 call:  "Smells Like There's Been A Dead Body In The Damn Car!"  She has backpedaled ever since.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 13, 2009, 12:44:31 PM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe? 

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.' 

Sound about right? 


Sounds EXACTLY right!!!!

 But, the law is the law.  Why have they not been FOLLOWING the broken laws...all along.  Why did they get ...slack...in their positions???  Letting the offenders off, instead of instilling the LAW what they were damn well hired to do.  The laws are not made to be just printed on paper, they are made to be abided by and ENFORCED, by those in the postions to do so.



I was sure that I sent you a copy of the posting, by a local from Satsuma.. who discussed her opinion and experience's and reflections of Alledged corruption in the Putnam SO with the last elected Sheriff.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 12:58:52 PM
I remember reading one similar to that..all typed in CAPS!!! Brought over from another site.  If that is the one, what was that about the drive by Hardies window???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 13, 2009, 01:03:06 PM
Morning Monnnkeys, and welcome to the new monkeys as well as lurkers..

HAs anyone seen a picture of Crystal and Haleigh together?  Just curious.  mio

photos on myspace Mio.. also two family photos.

Yes the one on my space cause i have her as a friend

hey thanks, I have not seen her myspace page.

mio:

I have been collecting pictures of this case since the beginning. (Even screen-capturing from videos.) There are very few of Crystal and Haleigh together out there.

Crystal's myspace page seems to be down at the moment. I am not a member at myspace so I cannot view most pages there.

I am posting the very few images of Haleigh and Crystal that I have been able to find for you. Only one (the first one) looks to be somewhat recent:

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/hchaleighcrystaljunior.jpg)


(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image7-1.png) (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image2-8.png)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image5-2.png)  (http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/hccrystalwithhaleigh.jpg)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/Image9-1.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:05:35 PM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe? 

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.' 

Sound about right? 


Sounds EXACTLY right!!!!

 But, the law is the law.  Why have they not been FOLLOWING the broken laws...all along.  Why did they get ...slack...in their positions???  Letting the offenders off, instead of instilling the LAW what they were damn well hired to do.  The laws are not made to be just printed on paper, they are made to be abided by and ENFORCED, by those in the postions to do so.



That's very true, Grama!  And is the million dollar question.  Sad thing is, it happens in too many LE depts all over the US and beyond.  It's not something that is just happening in that area. 

Seems to me, from the many many mannnnnnnnnnnnny records that have been pulled up for such a great number of folks in that area, detectives/patrol officers seem to have been doing their job of enforcing the law to a great extent.  Seems the breakdown has come when those arrested face the judge, and charges are SO often dismissed.  This in effect tells those arrested they can get away with what they are doing, time and time again.  IMO, many of those dealing drugs could be doing so cuz they can.  With the income from the drug dealing, they likely can afford the bail $, so what the heck.  Getting arrested seems more like a slight annoyance to many, not even a slap on the hand.  Not to mention, wonder how p!ssed off the arresting officers get when the judge/s don't back them up?  Frustrated too, I bet.  Maybe I've watched too much TV, but I can just see those who get arrested laffing at the patrol officers, thumbing their noses at them, going neener neener neener.   

If I lived in that area, I'd be coming down hard on the judge/s who either dismiss charges or let the accused back out onto the streets before the ink even dries on the reports from the arresting officers.  IMO, just based on what we do know of so far, the problem seems to be with the judge/s, not with LE themselves.  I could be wrong.  Just seems that way as an ******* from afar. 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 13, 2009, 01:05:41 PM
O/T:

alagary, I see you are logged in. I left you a post the other day in my avatar thread. (URL is in my sig line.)

Sorry for the O/T, monkeys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:09:58 PM

how funny!!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  the filter found this to be naughty in my last post???

"an o-b-s-e-r-v-e-r from afar" .. filtering that o word out.  ??   ::MonkeyHaHa::

 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 01:15:48 PM
Responding to Wyks post...yes, I agree it appears to fall into the judges lap, and he just fluffs the charges off, no no solid sentence for the charges.

I remember years ago in the city I used to live in, same thing was happening, especially with break and enters.  It wasn't until the JUDGES HOME was NEXT. THEN and only THEN were the offenders given Stronger sentences.

Has to hit home, for some eyes to open.   



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 01:18:36 PM
Wyks?   Do you mind if I repost to http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php#1  what you wrote yesterday that sums up how I feel EXACTLY?  I hope it's ok, I don't think youre online right now.  (bah this internet stuff makes me feel stupid sometimes)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:21:36 PM
Am thinking for there not to be a ton of pics of Crystal and Haleigh together, available to the public, doesn't mean anything except that maybe Crystal would like to keep the rest of what she has private.  Just cuz we want more more more, doesn't mean she has to provide them.  If I had a missing child, the pics that I had of child and myself together would be precious to me, as well as the belongings of that child.  I'd share some with the public and keep the rest for myself and family.  Pics and belongings would be all that I physically had left, the only ways of keeping the memories alive.  My heart goes out to all of those who love Haleigh.  This whole thing has become so very public, I'd want to feel like there was something that was just hers and mine, ya know? 
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 01:24:10 PM
Am thinking for there not to be a ton of pics of Crystal and Haleigh together, available to the public, doesn't mean anything except that maybe Crystal would like to keep the rest of what she has private.  Just cuz we want more more more, doesn't mean she has to provide them.  If I had a missing child, the pics that I had of child and myself together would be precious to me, as well as the belongings of that child.  I'd share some with the public and keep the rest for myself and family.  Pics and belongings would be all that I physically had left, the only ways of keeping the memories alive.  My heart goes out to all of those who love Haleigh.  This whole thing has become so very public, I'd want to feel like there was something that was just hers and mine, ya know? 
   

I think Wyks is my twin.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:25:30 PM
Wyks?   Do you mind if I repost to http://haleigh.afterhoursfriends.com/index.php#1  what you wrote yesterday that sums up how I feel EXACTLY?  I hope it's ok, I don't think youre online right now.  (bah this internet stuff makes me feel stupid sometimes)

Sure Thunder Bunny!  Thanks for asking!   ::MonkeyWink::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:29:25 PM
Am thinking for there not to be a ton of pics of Crystal and Haleigh together, available to the public, doesn't mean anything except that maybe Crystal would like to keep the rest of what she has private.  Just cuz we want more more more, doesn't mean she has to provide them.  If I had a missing child, the pics that I had of child and myself together would be precious to me, as well as the belongings of that child.  I'd share some with the public and keep the rest for myself and family.  Pics and belongings would be all that I physically had left, the only ways of keeping the memories alive.  My heart goes out to all of those who love Haleigh.  This whole thing has become so very public, I'd want to feel like there was something that was just hers and mine, ya know? 
   

I think Wyks is my twin.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:32:45 PM
Responding to Wyks post...yes, I agree it appears to fall into the judges lap, and he just fluffs the charges off, no no solid sentence for the charges.

I remember years ago in the city I used to live in, same thing was happening, especially with break and enters.  It wasn't until the JUDGES HOME was NEXT. THEN and only THEN were the offenders given Stronger sentences.

Has to hit home, for some eyes to open.   



Sad but true, Grama! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 01:33:41 PM
Am thinking for there not to be a ton of pics of Crystal and Haleigh together, available to the public, doesn't mean anything except that maybe Crystal would like to keep the rest of what she has private.  Just cuz we want more more more, doesn't mean she has to provide them.  If I had a missing child, the pics that I had of child and myself together would be precious to me, as well as the belongings of that child.  I'd share some with the public and keep the rest for myself and family.  Pics and belongings would be all that I physically had left, the only ways of keeping the memories alive.  My heart goes out to all of those who love Haleigh.  This whole thing has become so very public, I'd want to feel like there was something that was just hers and mine, ya know? 
   

I think Wyks is my twin.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::


Um.  yeah.  So I'd repost what you wrote which is exactly how I feel, except I can't find it.  <big sigh>  I swear you are a long lost twin.  I think it, you type it.  LOLOLOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 01:39:45 PM
O/T Sorry

Gramamonkey?  I fixed my pop ups.    ((((YOU)))))))

and I also downloaded firefox, but well, that's going to take a little time to figure out.  When I do use Firefox, there are NO pop ups.  YIPPPPPEEEEE


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 01:39:52 PM
Am thinking for there not to be a ton of pics of Crystal and Haleigh together, available to the public, doesn't mean anything except that maybe Crystal would like to keep the rest of what she has private.  Just cuz we want more more more, doesn't mean she has to provide them.  If I had a missing child, the pics that I had of child and myself together would be precious to me, as well as the belongings of that child.  I'd share some with the public and keep the rest for myself and family.  Pics and belongings would be all that I physically had left, the only ways of keeping the memories alive.  My heart goes out to all of those who love Haleigh.  This whole thing has become so very public, I'd want to feel like there was something that was just hers and mine, ya know? 
   

I think Wyks is my twin.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::


Um.  yeah.  So I'd repost what you wrote which is exactly how I feel, except I can't find it.  <big sigh>  I swear you are a long lost twin.  I think it, you type it.  LOLOLOL

Hmmm..does this mean now Wyks will soon have bunny ears, and you will be eating a banana??? ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 01:42:23 PM
 ::MonkeyWink::

Bananas, definately!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 01:45:41 PM

I think Wyks is my twin.   ::MonkeyAngel::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyDance::


Um.  yeah.  So I'd repost what you wrote which is exactly how I feel, except I can't find it.  <big sigh>  I swear you are a long lost twin.  I think it, you type it.  LOLOLOL

Hmmm..does this mean now Wyks will soon have bunny ears, and you will be eating a banana??? ::MonkeyDance::

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   Too funny you guys!   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 13, 2009, 01:55:09 PM
::MonkeyWink::

Bananas, definately!

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/Animation2-2.gif)

Sorry, I just had to do it  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 13, 2009, 01:57:13 PM
Good Morning Monkeys, I wish Haleigh would get found already, My God, things are sure quiet, I cant beleive its been so long, I was sure this case would be over with already, she has missed so much now, Jr's birthday, Mothers day, her school year is about to end, where is she?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 02:01:10 PM
Brandi..you are too cute and too clever!
and thanks for the pictures of Haleigh and Crystal..


o/t I fully intend to watch the Anthony's on youtube AFTER LKL show...I am curious to see what they say tonight..knowing how everyone feels about them...they have to have read the blogs and the comments...




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
snip Wykee:

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe?

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.'

Sound about right? 

Sounds right to me Wykee Wyks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 02:08:00 PM
Good Morning Monkeys, I wish Haleigh would get found already, My God, things are sure quiet, I cant beleive its been so long, I was sure this case would be over with already, she has missed so much now, Jr's birthday, Mothers day, her school year is about to end, where is she?

Morning HH!  And yessssssssssssssssssss... frustrating! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 02:13:13 PM
snip Wykee:

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe?

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.'

Sound about right? 

------------------------------

Sounds right to me Wykee Wyks!

Well if that's what they are doing, sure hope it works! 

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 13, 2009, 02:13:40 PM
Sorry OT you guys
but Brandi, YOU ROCK!!!!
You even got his mouth open.
I am WICKEDLY impressed!  LOLOLOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 13, 2009, 02:14:47 PM
Good Morning Monkeys, I wish Haleigh would get found already, My God, things are sure quiet, I cant beleive its been so long, I was sure this case would be over with already, she has missed so much now, Jr's birthday, Mothers day, her school year is about to end, where is she?

Morning HH!  And yessssssssssssssssssss... frustrating! 

yes wyks,  very much  so, I just wish we knew something, she needs to come home!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2009, 02:22:19 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/Haleigh-Thread-Topper-1.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 13, 2009, 02:29:16 PM
 ::MonkeyTongue:: HH, how is Sierra and you have nanners.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 02:54:34 PM
AWWWW....Excellent Work Brandi!!! 

 See what Monkey's do on their..coffee break.   ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2009, 02:55:04 PM
Monkeys ~  I know you are restless without info, but please remember you are Haleigh's thread.  I've just removed  six posts of the bulldog eating a banana avi.  And each post had a number of quotes.  Please go to musings if you feel bored.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2009, 02:55:48 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o100/klaasen3/Sub6_022109/Haleigh-Thread-Topper-1.png)

Bump


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 13, 2009, 02:56:25 PM
Gramy....WTH??
what is it with these people?? ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::

Ya know what it's beginning to sound like to me, Cookie?  Like other monkeys have said before, that maybe LE is putting the heat on a certain few, to get them to talk maybe? 

Perhaps it's something like this:  'Ya don't wanna talk to us about what happened with Haleigh eh?  Well we can make it a bit rough for you, pull you in for everything including jaywalking.  When you get tired of us following your every move and being arrested every other day etc, and want to talk to us about the Haleigh case, then just let us know and we'll look the other way on the rest of your sh!t like we have been doing.' 

Sound about right? 


Sounds EXACTLY right!!!!

 But, the law is the law.  Why have they not been FOLLOWING the broken laws...all along.  Why did they get ...slack...in their positions???  Letting the offenders off, instead of instilling the LAW what they were damn well hired to do.  The laws are not made to be just printed on paper, they are made to be abided by and ENFORCED, by those in the postions to do so.



That's very true, Grama!  And is the million dollar question.  Sad thing is, it happens in too many LE depts all over the US and beyond.  It's not something that is just happening in that area. 

Seems to me, from the many many mannnnnnnnnnnnny records that have been pulled up for such a great number of folks in that area, detectives/patrol officers seem to have been doing their job of enforcing the law to a great extent.  Seems the breakdown has come when those arrested face the judge, and charges are SO often dismissed.  This in effect tells those arrested they can get away with what they are doing, time and time again.  IMO, many of those dealing drugs could be doing so cuz they can.  With the income from the drug dealing, they likely can afford the bail $, so what the heck.  Getting arrested seems more like a slight annoyance to many, not even a slap on the hand.  Not to mention, wonder how p!ssed off the arresting officers get when the judge/s don't back them up?  Frustrated too, I bet.  Maybe I've watched too much TV, but I can just see those who get arrested laffing at the patrol officers, thumbing their noses at them, going neener neener neener.   

If I lived in that area, I'd be coming down hard on the judge/s who either dismiss charges or let the accused back out onto the streets before the ink even dries on the reports from the arresting officers.  IMO, just based on what we do know of so far, the problem seems to be with the judge/s, not with LE themselves.  I could be wrong.  Just seems that way as an ******* from afar. 
 

 :smt038 :smt038 :smt038 :salut:



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 03:03:29 PM
Monkeys ~  I know you are restless without info, but please remember you are Haleigh's thread.  I've just removed  six posts of the bulldog eating a banana avi.  And each post had a number of quotes.  Please go to musings if you feel bored.

Sorry Muffy, the natives were restless.  We'll try to be good.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 13, 2009, 03:05:06 PM
http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/


This is a very interesting article, sorry I could not get it to paste  correctectly.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 13, 2009, 03:07:05 PM
http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/


This is a very interesting article, sorry I could not get it to paste  correctectly.

mymonkey boo boo ::MonkeyTongue:: it does open, so if your into astrology you will find it interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 13, 2009, 03:11:38 PM
Monkeys ~  I know you are restless without info, but please remember you are Haleigh's thread.  I've just removed  six posts of the bulldog eating a banana avi.  And each post had a number of quotes.  Please go to musings if you feel bored.

Sorry Muffy, the natives were restless.  We'll try to be good.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Thanks Wyks.   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 13, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/


This is a very interesting article, sorry I could not get it to paste  correctectly.

mymonkey boo boo ::MonkeyTongue:: it does open, so if your into astrology you will find it interesting.

This is a astrology reading on Haleigh ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 13, 2009, 03:19:31 PM
PLEASE - try to stay on topic.  Brandi next time maybe create the pic and provide a link to it in Musings or something.  TIA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 13, 2009, 03:25:02 PM
http://forensicastrology.blogspot.com/


This is a very interesting article, sorry I could not get it to paste  correctectly.

It's definitely interesting to me, thanks for sharing that link, mymonkey!  This person explains things as s/he goes, and that is very helpful in understanding.  I like the take on things, and do hope beyond hope that this is exactly what went on, because that would hopefully mean that Haleigh is alive and just waiting for someone to come bring her home.   



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Brandi on May 13, 2009, 03:42:45 PM
PLEASE - try to stay on topic.  Brandi next time maybe create the pic and provide a link to it in Musings or something.  TIA

Sure thing, Klaas.

I was just going along the same vein as how funny pictures are posted in the Caylee thread.

No problem. No more funny pictures from me :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 13, 2009, 03:50:15 PM
Morning Monnnkeys, and welcome to the new monkeys as well as lurkers..

HAs anyone seen a picture of Crystal and Haleigh together?  Just curious.  mio

photos on myspace Mio.. also two family photos.

Yes the one on my space cause i have her as a friend

hey thanks, I have not seen her myspace page.

Mio, the photos Brandi posted are the same ones from Myspace.. I posted several of them yesterday here.  There are a few more..  One of the cutest is the one with both sets of Children together.. They blend together so well.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 04:14:01 PM
PLEASE - try to stay on topic.  Brandi next time maybe create the pic and provide a link to it in Musings or something.  TIA

Sure thing, Klaas.

I was just going along the same vein as how funny pictures are posted in the Caylee thread.

No problem. No more funny pictures from me :)

I apologize to you Brandi and also Wyks, as the comical comment I made was never intented to get anyone into troublesome times with mods.  However, Brandi, I do so much agree with your above comment.

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 13, 2009, 04:45:01 PM
Two Arrested in Undercover Drug Sting


PALATKA, FL -- Agencies from two counties worked together to arrest two people for trying to trade drugs for stolen goods.

Putnam County Sheriff's Drug and Vice Unit, the Palatka Police Department and the St. Johns County Sheriff's Office sent an undercover officer to conduct a trade.

The officer contacted Jerome Raymond Williams, 37, and offered to trade stolen televisions, radios and a radar detector for Lortab pills.

They arranged a meeting in a parking lot. Williams arrived with 30-year-old Courtney Renee Leonard and they negotiated the trade. Leonard also offered cash for one of the televisions.

After the trade, hidden officers arrested Williams and Leonard. They then searched Williams' car and found more drugs, including crack and powder cocaine and several types of prescription pills.

Leonard was charged with dealing in stolen property.

Williams faces many charges, including two counts of trafficking of Hydrocodone, possession of powder cocaine, possession of crack cocaine with the intent to sell, possession of a schedule II controlled substance with the intent to sell, possession of a schedule IV substance with the intent to sell, sale of crack cocaine, possession of a legend drug without a prescription, possession of a legend drug with the intent to sell, possession of drug paraphernalia, maintaining a drug conveyance and dealing in stolen property.

There were also outstanding warrants against him (2 each) for trafficking in Hydrocodone and sale of cocaine.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=137792&provider=top


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 04:51:35 PM
WHOOOOO  HOOOOOOOO!!!!!   GO  LE

Someone heard Monkeys talking.  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 13, 2009, 04:57:38 PM
Jeromes partner
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754038&IMG=58557


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 13, 2009, 05:04:03 PM
Jeromes partner
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754038&IMG=58557

Thanks, alagary ~ (psst...Nice Avi)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 13, 2009, 05:04:08 PM
Two Arrested in Undercover Drug Sting


PALATKA, FL -- Agencies from two counties worked together to arrest two people for trying to trade drugs for stolen goods.

Putnam County Sheriff's Drug and Vice Unit, the Palatka Police Department and the St. Johns County Sheriff's Office sent an undercover officer to conduct a trade.

The officer contacted Jerome Raymond Williams, 37, and offered to trade stolen televisions, radios and a radar detector for Lortab pills.

They arranged a meeting in a parking lot. Williams arrived with 30-year-old Courtney Renee Leonard and they negotiated the trade. Leonard also offered cash for one of the televisions.

After the trade, hidden officers arrested Williams and Leonard. They then searched Williams' car and found more drugs, including crack and powder cocaine and several types of prescription pills.

Leonard was charged with dealing in stolen property.

Williams faces many charges, including two counts of trafficking of Hydrocodone, possession of powder cocaine, possession of crack cocaine with the intent to sell, possession of a schedule II controlled substance with the intent to sell, possession of a schedule IV substance with the intent to sell, sale of crack cocaine, possession of a legend drug without a prescription, possession of a legend drug with the intent to sell, possession of drug paraphernalia, maintaining a drug conveyance and dealing in stolen property.

There were also outstanding warrants against him (2 each) for trafficking in Hydrocodone and sale of cocaine.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=137792&provider=top

(http://public.pcso.us/jail/adb.asp?IMG=58557)

COURTNEY  RENEE  LEONARD
Palatka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/12/2009 8:17:28 PM  - Booking#: 09-01941
Release Date & Time: 5/13/2009 12:55:00 PM
DOB: 9/30/1978 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
812.019-1   STOLEN PROP-DEAL IN    F   S    $2,504.00    5/13/2009 12:44:08 PM
                $2,504.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754038&IMG=58557


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 13, 2009, 05:07:15 PM
WHOOOOO  HOOOOOOOO!!!!!   GO  LE

Someone heard Monkeys talking.  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

There's a new sheriff in town Grama!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 13, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
PLEASE - try to stay on topic.  Brandi next time maybe create the pic and provide a link to it in Musings or something.  TIA

Sure thing, Klaas.

I was just going along the same vein as how funny pictures are posted in the Caylee thread.

No problem. No more funny pictures from me :)

I apologize to you Brandi and also Wyks, as the comical comment I made was never intented to get anyone into troublesome times with mods.  However, Brandi, I do so much agree with your above comment.

 


Please - anyone who thinks they can do a better job moderating 24 hours a day let me know.  I'd love to have someone else take over.  It's very time consuming, all volunteer and there is absolutely no thanks for it. 

KEEP THAT IN MIND


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 13, 2009, 05:08:14 PM
Jeromes partner
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754038&IMG=58557

Thanks, alagary ~ (psst...Nice Avi)
I'd tell you how much I would like to thank brandi but that would be O/T

Edit:   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 13, 2009, 05:08:23 PM
WHOOOOO  HOOOOOOOO!!!!!   GO  LE

Someone heard Monkeys talking.  ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel::

Maybe, next week LE will do a setup on a few others, we talk of often..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 13, 2009, 08:22:30 PM
My goodness it's quiet in here.  Just checking to see if there was any news...maybe tomorrow.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 13, 2009, 09:21:38 PM
Thought I would add this for reminder..
Jerome is out on Bond already from Drug Bust early April.. Now he has been Busted again...  Charges seem to be racking up on this guy... Wonder how long he had to stay with the county before he was or is or if he is bonded out?

UCN: 542009CF000537XXAXMX

File Date: 2009-04-02
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM

Defense Atty:

Defendant
WILLIAMS, JEROME RAYMOND

Alias
WILLIAMS, GEROME R
WILLIAMS, RAYMOND JEROME

Date
#
Docket Description

2009-04-02
1
ARREST REPORT - FHP TRP.VEGA (AR 4/1/09)

2009-04-02
1
BOOKING NUMBER: 09-1322

2009-04-02
1
NO VALID DRIVERS LICENSE

2009-04-02
1
ATTACHING TAG NOT ASSIGNED

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA

2009-04-02
1
SALE OF 10 PLUS GRAMS OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHIN 200 FEET PARK

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHIN 1000 FT.GROCERY

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF LEGEND DRUGS WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION WITH

2009-04-02
1
INTENT TO SELL OXYCONTIN 40 MG

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE 1000 FEET CHURCH

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL 1000 FEET SCHOOL

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF LEGEND DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION WITH

2009-04-02
1
INTENT TO SELL

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF COCAINE

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION OF COCAINE (CRACK)

2009-04-02
1
POSSESSION WITH INTENT TO SELL LEGEND DRUG WITHOUT

2009-04-02
1
PRESCRIPTION

2009-04-02
2
DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 4/2/09

2009-04-02
2
ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

2009-04-02
2
SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. I

2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. II

2009-04-02
2
$ 504.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. III

2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IV

2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. V

2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VI

2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VII

2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. VIII

2009-04-02
2
$5004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. IX

2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. X

2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XI

2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XII

2009-04-02
2
$1004.00 SECURED BOND SET CT. XIII

2009-04-02
3
TRAFFIC CITATION - #1468-SNO X - NO DL

2009-04-02
4
TRAFFIC CITATION - #1467-SNO X - TAG ATTACH

2009-04-02
5
AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

2009-04-02
6
ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

2009-04-02
7
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803821 4/2/09

2009-04-02
8
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803820

2009-04-02
9
$ 504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803819

2009-04-02
10
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803818

2009-04-02
11
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803814

2009-04-02
12
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803817

2009-04-02
13
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805254

2009-04-02
14
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805255

2009-04-02
15
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805256

2009-04-02
16
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00805257

2009-04-02
17
$5004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00795984

2009-04-02
18
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803815

2009-04-02
19
$1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00803816

2009-04-02
19
CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE CO.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 13, 2009, 10:29:36 PM
Well it is so quiet here, when I sit down everyday at the computor and turn it on and wait for it to load, I tell myself today is gonna be the day, when I get to the forum something will have broken in this case and we will know where Haleigh is, then I get here and nothing!!!  I stop and think, wonder if Haleigh is alive what is she thinking to herself, is  she also wondering if this will be the day when she will be found, if she is saying, Gosh, why hasnt Mommy or Daddy come to get me yet, does anybody miss me, wonder where my bubba Jr. is, is he still with Daddy and Mommy or did something happen to him too, why cant I see Grand Ma, why cant I go back to school, this is what makes me crazy with this case and if it does this to me, well I then wonder if Ronald really didnt have anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, how can he stand to see another day pass without any news,is his first born alive and being cared for or mistreated, is she OK or living in hell on earth, and Crystal is definaitly going crazy if she too knows nothing about what happened to Haleigh, I couldnt stand it.......no way........I would be all up at the Sherriff's department demanding to know what is going on, who have you talked to today, what leads are you following, what can I do, please lets get some people togther and go search again, lets do something, I wouldnt be able to stand not knowing,   This little girl has to be somewhere, she didnt dissapear from the earth without a clue to her whereabouts..........I just want something to be said that shows that they do have a vlue, they are getting close, they do know something, anything.........this is getting rediculous....................Poor Haleigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 10:36:58 PM
Well it is so quiet here, when I sit down everyday at the computor and turn it on and wait for it to load, I tell myself today is gonna be the day, when I get to the forum something will have broken in this case and we will know where Haleigh is, then I get here and nothing!!!  I stop and think, wonder if Haleigh is alive what is she thinking to herself, is  she also wondering if this will be the day when she will be found, if she is saying, Gosh, why hasnt Mommy or Daddy come to get me yet, does anybody miss me, wonder where my bubba Jr. is, is he still with Daddy and Mommy or did something happen to him too, why cant I see Grand Ma, why cant I go back to school, this is what makes me crazy with this case and if it does this to me, well I then wonder if Ronald really didnt have anything to do with Haleigh coming up missing, how can he stand to see another day pass without any news,is his first born alive and being cared for or mistreated, is she OK or living in hell on earth, and Crystal is definaitly going crazy if she too knows nothing about what happened to Haleigh, I couldnt stand it.......no way........I would be all up at the Sherriff's department demanding to know what is going on, who have you talked to today, what leads are you following, what can I do, please lets get some people togther and go search again, lets do something, I wouldnt be able to stand not knowing,   This little girl has to be somewhere, she didnt dissapear from the earth without a clue to her whereabouts..........I just want something to be said that shows that they do have a vlue, they are getting close, they do know something, anything.........this is getting rediculous....................Poor Haleigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yep....I feel really sorry for them...it has to be horrible! just horrible...Hell on earth!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 13, 2009, 11:04:34 PM
Jerome has been transferred to the jail in St. Johns County, he hasn't been released, notice that the bond on some of those charges was not posted?  I read this earlier on another forum and then I found that article, apparently the jail in St. Johns County is where the more dangerous criminals go to await their court date.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 13, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
thanks Maves for the info...

.....hope to see you back here tomorrow along with the other monkeys...
nite...sleep tite and hope that Haleigh is found tomorrow! or tonight!

xxxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 14, 2009, 12:12:48 AM
On rons website, set up by his lawyers
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
it now says:
May 13: Coming this week... A message from Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings! Check back to see the video.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 14, 2009, 01:18:44 AM
On rons website, set up by his lawyers
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
it now says:
May 13: Coming this week... A message from Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings! Check back to see the video.
well lets see if anything happens this week, I dont hold much stock in it though!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 02:40:13 AM
Good Morning! I wish someone would clear something up for me. I've seen so many posts on every board, and also in Art H. blog regarding Johnny S. being a deputy with the sheriff's dept. But a poster on WS who does a LOT of research claims that he was not a deputy, that he was a corrections officer with the county jail. There is a difference, at least here in Tx.
My son went to work for the sheriff's dept. here about 18 years ago, and it was a requirement then that all new hires had to work in the jail itself for a period of time before moving to patrol. Not sure if it's still that way or not. They do sometimes hire people just as jailers, or corrections officers, though, so it can be a bit confusing. I would like to clear it up in my own mind... was he ever actually a deputy, or did he just work at the jail? Don't ask me why it's important, I can't explain it. And no, I don't have any inside track.... I just want to be clear.
There are so many inconsistencies in this case, on both sides, and rumors get bandied about so much, it's very hard to know what to believe anymore. FWIW, I think Art Harris gets his facts wrong sometimes, too, so I take what is on his side with a grain of salt. Just wish we had more facts to mull over.
Hoping that Haleigh will be found and brought home before we all lose our minds!

There is also an article on Palatka News saying Haleigh's uncle Andrew Shefield works for the DOC now and was in one of the searches. That article is now in Archive and you need to pay to see it.

Corrections officers join search team
Palatka Daily News SATSUMA - Sixty-three volunteers were sent out by the Florida Department of Corrections on Friday to aid in the search for Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh's uncle, Andrew Sheffield, is an employee of the Putnam Correctional Institution w...
 1.3K - Feb. 14, 2009; scored 236.0

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&q=Haleigh+Cummings&d1=2-10-2009&d2=05-13-2009&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&l=20&o=60

I believe JS was a deputy Sheriff.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 14, 2009, 03:40:20 AM
Loved the article on forensic astrology My Monkey.  The part that struck me was when the author said Haleigh was close, a nearby neighborhood.  Now if that doesn't make me want to go start beating on some doors in Satsuma, I don't know what would!

sorry i got us all in trouble.  sorry Klass and Muffy.  sorry off topic.  sorry you had to delete me. i won't cause any more trouble.  promise.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 06:55:11 AM
Loved the article on forensic astrology My Monkey.  The part that struck me was when the author said Haleigh was close, a nearby neighborhood.  Now if that doesn't make me want to go start beating on some doors in Satsuma, I don't know what would!

sorry i got us all in trouble.  sorry Klass and Muffy.  sorry off topic.  sorry you had to delete me. i won't cause any more trouble.  promise.

ThunderBunny, don't worry about it.. it wasn't you.. Monkeys were just trying to have a bit of fun.. and it happened.. Ease your Heart..  Monkeys do have fun sometimes, we kind of get carried away...  We need to do a bit of emails..  Clear your heart...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 07:26:39 AM
Good Morning! I wish someone would clear something up for me. I've seen so many posts on every board, and also in Art H. blog regarding Johnny S. being a deputy with the sheriff's dept. But a poster on WS who does a LOT of research claims that he was not a deputy, that he was a corrections officer with the county jail. There is a difference, at least here in Tx.
My son went to work for the sheriff's dept. here about 18 years ago, and it was a requirement then that all new hires had to work in the jail itself for a period of time before moving to patrol. Not sure if it's still that way or not. They do sometimes hire people just as jailers, or corrections officers, though, so it can be a bit confusing. I would like to clear it up in my own mind... was he ever actually a deputy, or did he just work at the jail? Don't ask me why it's important, I can't explain it. And no, I don't have any inside track.... I just want to be clear.
There are so many inconsistencies in this case, on both sides, and rumors get bandied about so much, it's very hard to know what to believe anymore. FWIW, I think Art Harris gets his facts wrong sometimes, too, so I take what is on his side with a grain of salt. Just wish we had more facts to mull over.
Hoping that Haleigh will be found and brought home before we all lose our minds!

There is also an article on Palatka News saying Haleigh's uncle Andrew Shefield works for the DOC now and was in one of the searches. That article is now in Archive and you need to pay to see it.

Corrections officers join search team
Palatka Daily News SATSUMA - Sixty-three volunteers were sent out by the Florida Department of Corrections on Friday to aid in the search for Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh's uncle, Andrew Sheffield, is an employee of the Putnam Correctional Institution w...
 1.3K - Feb. 14, 2009; scored 236.0

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&q=Haleigh+Cummings&d1=2-10-2009&d2=05-13-2009&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&l=20&o=60

I believe JS was a deputy Sheriff.



Thanks for finding and posting that, it helps a great deal...  I had also seen postings listing him as Sheriff,  Deputy Sheriff and as Corrections.. So it was difficult to know what was the truth and what was just plain rumor...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 07:31:25 AM
Art narris says Jerome working to find Haleigh 
http://www.artharris.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 07:42:12 AM
Art narris says Jerome working to find Haleigh 
http://www.artharris.com/
Should have daid Jerome claimed to be looking for Haleigh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 07:55:42 AM
Good Morning! I wish someone would clear something up for me. I've seen so many posts on every board, and also in Art H. blog regarding Johnny S. being a deputy with the sheriff's dept. But a poster on WS who does a LOT of research claims that he was not a deputy, that he was a corrections officer with the county jail. There is a difference, at least here in Tx.
My son went to work for the sheriff's dept. here about 18 years ago, and it was a requirement then that all new hires had to work in the jail itself for a period of time before moving to patrol. Not sure if it's still that way or not. They do sometimes hire people just as jailers, or corrections officers, though, so it can be a bit confusing. I would like to clear it up in my own mind... was he ever actually a deputy, or did he just work at the jail? Don't ask me why it's important, I can't explain it. And no, I don't have any inside track.... I just want to be clear.
There are so many inconsistencies in this case, on both sides, and rumors get bandied about so much, it's very hard to know what to believe anymore. FWIW, I think Art Harris gets his facts wrong sometimes, too, so I take what is on his side with a grain of salt. Just wish we had more facts to mull over.
Hoping that Haleigh will be found and brought home before we all lose our minds!

There is also an article on Palatka News saying Haleigh's uncle Andrew Shefield works for the DOC now and was in one of the searches. That article is now in Archive and you need to pay to see it.

Corrections officers join search team
Palatka Daily News SATSUMA - Sixty-three volunteers were sent out by the Florida Department of Corrections on Friday to aid in the search for Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh's uncle, Andrew Sheffield, is an employee of the Putnam Correctional Institution w...
 1.3K - Feb. 14, 2009; scored 236.0

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&q=Haleigh+Cummings&d1=2-10-2009&d2=05-13-2009&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&l=20&o=60

I believe JS was a deputy Sheriff.



Thanks for finding and posting that, it helps a great deal...  I had also seen postings listing him as Sheriff,  Deputy Sheriff and as Corrections.. So it was difficult to know what was the truth and what was just plain rumor...

You are quite welcome Mlee. I was actually searching for who packed up the belongings but can not find an article saying who did in fact pack. Palatka News has had lots of articles about Haleigh and I usually check there first when looking for new articles. The only bad thing they archive the articles after 14 days and then you have to pay to reread them.

Also do we know who this Andrew Sheffield is? How is he related?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 08:02:10 AM
Art narris says Jerome working to find Haleigh 
http://www.artharris.com/

That’s what thirty seven year old Jerome Raymond Williams told me last week in an exclusive interview after discovering two women he’d recently helped bail out of jail had ties to Haleigh Cummings’ family he figured he might be able to exploit in an attempt to cut himself a better deal with upcoming drug charges.

http://www.artharris.com/

Slimy piece of chit!

Sorry Monkeys.

Good Morning all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 08:03:32 AM
Art has a new article...  And it is so good.. And so informative.. And answers so many questions...  A must read... Like him or not..  A must read..

Now, we know who to start putting on the shelves behind us, that we have beat our brains out trying to link.. Here is a house cleaning.. and where does it go from there...

Well.. now they have a smaller list to look at..  it does appear we are right back to the cummings and sheffield war.........

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/exclusive-drug-dealer-haleigh-cummings-help/comment-page-1/#comment-35725


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 08:06:34 AM
Art narris says Jerome working to find Haleigh 
http://www.artharris.com/

That’s what thirty seven year old Jerome Raymond Williams told me last week in an exclusive interview after discovering two women he’d recently helped bail out of jail had ties to Haleigh Cummings’ family he figured he might be able to exploit in an attempt to cut himself a better deal with upcoming drug charges.

http://www.artharris.com/

Slimy piece of chit!

Sorry Monkeys.

Good Morning all!


Good Morning Heart.
Good Morning all Monkeys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 08:10:09 AM
Art narris says Jerome working to find Haleigh 
http://www.artharris.com/
Should have daid Jerome claimed to be looking for Haleigh

Good Morning alagary and other Monkeys.  Thanks, for that posting, a lot of good info for sure. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 08:13:29 AM
Art narris says Jerome working to find Haleigh 
http://www.artharris.com/



“We thought we had something special with Williams,” confided one law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity, explaining how investigators often have to tap dance with the devil to solve unsolved mysteries like Haleigh Cummings.

Unfortunately, said the source, the drug dealer turned out to be a bust–a ‘VERY dead link to the case.” Out of some 4,000 leads police have chased, so many seemed promising, only to lead to another dead end.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/exclusive-drug-dealer-haleigh-cummings-help/#more-1820


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 08:15:38 AM
Good Morning! I wish someone would clear something up for me. I've seen so many posts on every board, and also in Art H. blog regarding Johnny S. being a deputy with the sheriff's dept. But a poster on WS who does a LOT of research claims that he was not a deputy, that he was a corrections officer with the county jail. There is a difference, at least here in Tx.
My son went to work for the sheriff's dept. here about 18 years ago, and it was a requirement then that all new hires had to work in the jail itself for a period of time before moving to patrol. Not sure if it's still that way or not. They do sometimes hire people just as jailers, or corrections officers, though, so it can be a bit confusing. I would like to clear it up in my own mind... was he ever actually a deputy, or did he just work at the jail? Don't ask me why it's important, I can't explain it. And no, I don't have any inside track.... I just want to be clear.
There are so many inconsistencies in this case, on both sides, and rumors get bandied about so much, it's very hard to know what to believe anymore. FWIW, I think Art Harris gets his facts wrong sometimes, too, so I take what is on his side with a grain of salt. Just wish we had more facts to mull over.
Hoping that Haleigh will be found and brought home before we all lose our minds!

There is also an article on Palatka News saying Haleigh's uncle Andrew Shefield works for the DOC now and was in one of the searches. That article is now in Archive and you need to pay to see it.

Corrections officers join search team
Palatka Daily News SATSUMA - Sixty-three volunteers were sent out by the Florida Department of Corrections on Friday to aid in the search for Haleigh Cummings. Haleigh's uncle, Andrew Sheffield, is an employee of the Putnam Correctional Institution w...
 1.3K - Feb. 14, 2009; scored 236.0

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&q=Haleigh+Cummings&d1=2-10-2009&d2=05-13-2009&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&l=20&o=60

I believe JS was a deputy Sheriff.



Thanks for finding and posting that, it helps a great deal...  I had also seen postings listing him as Sheriff,  Deputy Sheriff and as Corrections.. So it was difficult to know what was the truth and what was just plain rumor...

You are quite welcome Mlee. I was actually searching for who packed up the belongings but can not find an article saying who did in fact pack. Palatka News has had lots of articles about Haleigh and I usually check there first when looking for new articles. The only bad thing they archive the articles after 14 days and then you have to pay to reread them.

Also do we know who this Andrew Sheffield is? How is he related?

We were trying to compare both Marie and Johnny aka Marty's arrest records.. Since Rumors and Postings have both linked into drug issues.  Marie's does show involvement, but his doesn't.  So going through the records in Baker County, we found a marriage record for JS listing a 02/22/2005 marriage, a 1962 birthing year so it has to be the same man, but the wife was a Jennifer A.  What makes the situation very odd and confusing, is the fact there are photos of him with wife Connie and child, from 2004 and to current.  So, is this a  listing of Marie, Connie, Jennifer, Connie situation?   Yea, I'm looking at a copy of the record right now as we visit...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 08:53:50 AM
geez...I feel like I need another shower when hearing about that Chuck, the bail bondsman...Yuk!
why do women, such as this Chuck's wife,  stay with men who are convicted sexual predators??? ::MonkeyNoNo::  hope that there are no children around this family...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 09:02:00 AM
geez...I feel like I need another shower when hearing about that Chuck, the bail bondsman...Yuk!
why do women, such as this Chuck's wife,  stay with men who are convicted sexual predators??? ::MonkeyNoNo::  hope that there are no children around this family...
I'd also like to know who oversees bonding companies . It looks like they should be shut down .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 09:20:58 AM
(http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/CallImage?imgID=782371)
CHARLES D INGRAM
Date Of Photo: 01/15/2009


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 09:24:08 AM
(http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/CallImage?imgID=782371)
CHARLES D INGRAM
Date Of Photo: 01/15/2009

140 GREEN LANE
Hollister, FL 32147
PUTNAM COUNTY    Source: Dept. of Corrections
Received: 04/08/2009
Type of Address: Permanent

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=38394


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 14, 2009, 09:25:26 AM
geez...I feel like I need another shower when hearing about that Chuck, the bail bondsman...Yuk!
why do women, such as this Chuck's wife,  stay with men who are convicted sexual predators??? ::MonkeyNoNo::  hope that there are no children around this family...

Mornin monkeys!! Thanks for posting the AH article!

I know cookie, glad I haven't showered yet, just got the kids off to school, thought I see if there was anything new.   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 09:25:45 AM
O/T...Leslee Perez, little 4 yr old girl that was kidnapped yesterday has been found alive! see the thread on here...miracles every single day!  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 09:39:23 AM
geez...I feel like I need another shower when hearing about that Chuck, the bail bondsman...Yuk!
why do women, such as this Chuck's wife,  stay with men who are convicted sexual predators??? ::MonkeyNoNo::  hope that there are no children around this family...

Mornin monkeys!! Thanks for posting the AH article!

I know cookie, glad I haven't showered yet, just got the kids off to school, thought I see if there was anything new.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good morning Maven!

Is it too early or am I just not quite with it this a.m.

Where is this 140 Green Lane, Hollister, Fl 32147 that is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer ?

I can't find anything on Reverse address/White Pages, nor Google Maps for this address.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 09:40:24 AM
O/T...Leslee Perez, little 4 yr old girl that was kidnapped yesterday has been found alive! see the thread on here...miracles every single day!  ::MonkeyDance::

Thanks for the info cookie! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 09:42:15 AM
O/T...Leslee Perez, little 4 yr old girl that was kidnapped yesterday has been found alive! see the thread on here...miracles every single day!  ::MonkeyDance::
Thanks cookie, at least some good news for a change  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 09:43:38 AM
Heart  ,scroll all the way to the bottom and click "see map "


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 09:56:40 AM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 14, 2009, 10:01:54 AM
geez...I feel like I need another shower when hearing about that Chuck, the bail bondsman...Yuk!
why do women, such as this Chuck's wife,  stay with men who are convicted sexual predators??? ::MonkeyNoNo::  hope that there are no children around this family...

Mornin monkeys!! Thanks for posting the AH article!

I know cookie, glad I haven't showered yet, just got the kids off to school, thought I see if there was anything new.   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Good morning Maven!

Is it too early or am I just not quite with it this a.m.

Where is this 140 Green Lane, Hollister, Fl 32147 that is listed on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer ?

I can't find anything on Reverse address/White Pages, nor Google Maps for this address.

It isn't you Heart, I can't seem to pull it up either. Google maps gives you an approx, it does pull up on Live maps in Interlachen, but I haven't found anything in Reverse lookup.
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=29.633881~-81.831504&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 10:05:07 AM
Not sure if this link will work
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/MapServlet


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 10:12:17 AM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/dirtroad.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/greenlane.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 10:27:21 AM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/dirtroad.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/greenlane.jpg)

Thats what I'm talking about.

Was that a false address and no one checked on it or did they slap a mobile home or build a structure on it after the Google area pic?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 10:28:38 AM

We were trying to compare both Marie and Johnny aka Marty's arrest records.. Since Rumors and Postings have both linked into drug issues.  Marie's does show involvement, but his doesn't.  So going through the records in Baker County, we found a marriage record for JS listing a 02/22/2005 marriage, a 1962 birthing year so it has to be the same man, but the wife was a Jennifer A.  What makes the situation very odd and confusing, is the fact there are photos of him with wife Connie and child, from 2004 and to current.  So, is this a  listing of Marie, Connie, Jennifer, Connie situation?   Yea, I'm looking at a copy of the record right now as we visit...


Mlee,
I have a marriage record for Johnny Marcus Sheffield and Connie Ann Hale. March 9 2002 in Welaka, Putnam County FL.
Connie lists a birthplace of KY.......  Witnesses were Andrew Sheffield and a Robin Sheffield.

If you want their birthdates it is on the marriage record.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 10:44:30 AM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 

(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/dirtroad.jpg)
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/greenlane.jpg)

Thats what I'm talking about.

Was that a false address and no one checked on it or did they slap a mobile home or build a structure on it after the Google area pic?

First of all heart, they showed Hollister 32147 , and it is Interlachen 32148.  Just to the very bottom left where it shows the sq. for the address...looks like a little road, maybe we can't see for the trees. Dude must have money if he is bailing everyone out.  Hard to say when the view of that area was taken.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 10:59:43 AM

We were trying to compare both Marie and Johnny aka Marty's arrest records.. Since Rumors and Postings have both linked into drug issues.  Marie's does show involvement, but his doesn't.  So going through the records in Baker County, we found a marriage record for JS listing a 02/22/2005 marriage, a 1962 birthing year so it has to be the same man, but the wife was a Jennifer A.  What makes the situation very odd and confusing, is the fact there are photos of him with wife Connie and child, from 2004 and to current.  So, is this a  listing of Marie, Connie, Jennifer, Connie situation?   Yea, I'm looking at a copy of the record right now as we visit...


Mlee,
I have a marriage record for Johnny Marcus Sheffield and Connie Ann Hale. March 9 2002 in Welaka, Putnam County FL.
Connie lists a birthplace of KY.......  Witnesses were Andrew Sheffield and a Robin Sheffield.

If you want their birthdates it is on the marriage record.

The marriage is in Putnam County, I will pull it up.. Thank you ..  I will compare the two dates..   I wonder if its possible there are two Johnny Marcus Sheffield????? crazy thought huh....  This Jennifer list her bithplace as New Jersey.
Can't quite make out the names from the writing.. must be my old eyes.. think it is Dana Rasherson and a Wendy Floris  -- thats guessing at the peak..
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/witness.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 11:19:02 AM

We were trying to compare both Marie and Johnny aka Marty's arrest records.. Since Rumors and Postings have both linked into drug issues.  Marie's does show involvement, but his doesn't.  So going through the records in Baker County, we found a marriage record for JS listing a 02/22/2005 marriage, a 1962 birthing year so it has to be the same man, but the wife was a Jennifer A.  What makes the situation very odd and confusing, is the fact there are photos of him with wife Connie and child, from 2004 and to current.  So, is this a  listing of Marie, Connie, Jennifer, Connie situation?   Yea, I'm looking at a copy of the record right now as we visit...


Mlee,
I have a marriage record for Johnny Marcus Sheffield and Connie Ann Hale. March 9 2002 in Welaka, Putnam County FL.
Connie lists a birthplace of KY.......  Witnesses were Andrew Sheffield and a Robin Sheffield.

If you want their birthdates it is on the marriage record.

Same birthdate 12/17/1962 -

I have the answer.. they recorded it on 02/22/2005  But, reading the license and marriage, I found Johnny and Jennifer Ann Jacobs were actually married on 5/17/1998.
Thats the difference.. Now, its clear..  So, we have Marie, then Jennifer, then Connie. Got it....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 11:46:05 AM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 

Grama,  I googled and I checked every drop of the putnam cty records.. absolutely noting on JM from Welaka... nothing.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 12:04:45 PM

We were trying to compare both Marie and Johnny aka Marty's arrest records.. Since Rumors and Postings have both linked into drug issues.  Marie's does show involvement, but his doesn't.  So going through the records in Baker County, we found a marriage record for JS listing a 02/22/2005 marriage, a 1962 birthing year so it has to be the same man, but the wife was a Jennifer A.  What makes the situation very odd and confusing, is the fact there are photos of him with wife Connie and child, from 2004 and to current.  So, is this a  listing of Marie, Connie, Jennifer, Connie situation?   Yea, I'm looking at a copy of the record right now as we visit...


Mlee,
I have a marriage record for Johnny Marcus Sheffield and Connie Ann Hale. March 9 2002 in Welaka, Putnam County FL.
Connie lists a birthplace of KY.......  Witnesses were Andrew Sheffield and a Robin Sheffield.

If you want their birthdates it is on the marriage record.

This is good, I came up with a conclusion and looked around and everybody took off.... Must be lunch time, that's what happens when your brain forgets the time..
Well, here is the conclusion..  Jennifer is the ex step Mom, that HH met while visiting Crystal at the Haleigh Bug Center..  She's the one that was talking about knowing the people that own the mobile home that Haleigh disappeared from.. She and Crystal are very very tight.. and she had just returned from visiting her Mother which was suppose to be about 1600 miles away..  Hummmm New Jersey That's only half way of the mileage thats less than a 1000 miles.... hummm suggestions anyone????  That is when you get back from LUNCH.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 14, 2009, 12:06:04 PM
O/T...Leslee Perez, little 4 yr old girl that was kidnapped yesterday has been found alive! see the thread on here...miracles every single day!  ::MonkeyDance::
See this is great, its also what scares me in this case,  Children that go missing and are found alive usually get found in a short time and its been so long for Haleigh, where is she ,  I want her to be found, this has gone on too long and this little girl needs to be found asap!!!!   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 14, 2009, 12:09:42 PM
On rons website, set up by his lawyers
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
it now says:
May 13: Coming this week... A message from Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings! Check back to see the video.
well lets see if anything happens this week, I dont hold much stock in it though!!!
Ron talka now on this page, he doesnt say much, but he does have his video up!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 14, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
On rons website, set up by his lawyers
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
it now says:
May 13: Coming this week... A message from Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings! Check back to see the video.
well lets see if anything happens this week, I dont hold much stock in it though!!!
Ron talka now on this page, he doesnt say much, but he does have his video up!!

I might not like him.  I might not think much of him.  I might be blaming the wrong person.  But this video made me cry.  And I'm so sad for him.  He looks thinner to me, stress I would assume.  He looks clean.  And sad.  Oh man.  :(


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 14, 2009, 12:24:15 PM
On rons website, set up by his lawyers
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
it now says:
May 13: Coming this week... A message from Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings! Check back to see the video.
well lets see if anything happens this week, I dont hold much stock in it though!!!
Ron talka now on this page, he doesnt say much, but he does have his video up!!

I might not like him.  I might not think much of him.  I might be blaming the wrong person.  But this video made me cry.  And I'm so sad for him.  He looks thinner to me, stress I would assume.  He looks clean.  And sad.  Oh man.  :(
Yea, he does look thinner, and he does look sad, Somebody knows something and I just wish he would tell Mist, look you have to tell the truth so LE can find my daughter, I dont care what you were doing that night, I dont care what you might have to tell about what was going on in my home that night, just talk....tell the truth........make the timeline fit so they know where to look next....just do it!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
I agree with you there thunderbunny .
 IMO ron is never welcome to my home but I don't see him involved with Haleigh missing . But I do feel that it is because of his lifestyle that the wrong people had access and knowledge about Haleigh . If we could only figure out the reason .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 12:28:04 PM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 


Grama... look see what I found.......
This is all the same person Grama....  Born in New Jersey...
 Age 41
DOB   2/21/1968

Jennifer A Wampler -- Logansport, In
Jennifer Ickergill -- Davidson, MI
Jennifer Ickeringill -- Daytona Beach, FL
Jennifer Ickringill -- Crescent City, FL
Jemifer A Jacobs  -- Deland, FL
Jennifer Jacobs   -- Georgetown, FL
Jennifer A Jacobs -- Glen St. Mary, Fl
Jennifer Anne Jacobs -- Jacksonville, FL
Jennifer Jacobs -- Pomona Park, FL
Jennifer Sheffield -- Satsuma, FL
Jennifer A Sheffield -- Macclenny, Fl
Jennifer Anne Sheffield
Jennifer Townson
Jennifer Wambler
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 12:31:59 PM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 


Grama... look see what I found.......
This is all the same person Grama....  Born in New Jersey...
 Age 41
DOB   2/21/1968

Jennifer A Wampler -- Logansport, In
Jennifer Ickergill -- Davidson, MI
Jennifer Ickeringill -- Daytona Beach, FL
Jennifer Ickringill -- Crescent City, FL
Jemifer A Jacobs  -- Deland, FL
Jennifer Jacobs   -- Georgetown, FL
Jennifer A Jacobs -- Glen St. Mary, Fl
Jennifer Anne Jacobs -- Jacksonville, FL
Jennifer Jacobs -- Pomona Park, FL
Jennifer Sheffield -- Satsuma, FL
Jennifer A Sheffield -- Macclenny, Fl
Jennifer Anne Sheffield
Jennifer Townson
Jennifer Wambler
 
WOW !  Must have a hard time remembering which name to sign !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 14, 2009, 12:51:02 PM
On rons website, set up by his lawyers
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
it now says:
May 13: Coming this week... A message from Haleigh's dad, Ronald Cummings! Check back to see the video.
well lets see if anything happens this week, I dont hold much stock in it though!!!
Ron talka now on this page, he doesnt say much, but he does have his video up!!

I might not like him.  I might not think much of him.  I might be blaming the wrong person.  But this video made me cry.  And I'm so sad for him.  He looks thinner to me, stress I would assume.  He looks clean.  And sad.  Oh man.  :(
Yea, he does look thinner, and he does look sad, Somebody knows something and I just wish he would tell Mist, look you have to tell the truth so LE can find my daughter, I dont care what you were doing that night, I dont care what you might have to tell about what was going on in my home that night, just talk....tell the truth........make the timeline fit so they know where to look next....just do it!!!!

Right there with you HH.
What if, just what if he IS "keeping his enemy closer"?
We don't know until we know.
<big sigh>


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 01:38:07 PM
If anyone is interested here is a link about their observation of Ron's video.  http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 14, 2009, 01:42:10 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 01:49:22 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



Well, I can give you a multiple choice...
A. ron was bored and didn't have anything better to do that day.... 
B. With all the gossip he decided rather than face charges of messing with a teenage girl, he would make her legal.
C. He wanted to keep her quiet.
D. He thinks she knows something so he wants to keep her until she talks.
E. He wanted to get even with Crystal for being engaged.
F. He wanted to give her a reason to stay at home.. wifey....
G. He needed a trade in model, and now he plans on trading her in on a better model


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 14, 2009, 01:51:01 PM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 


Grama... look see what I found.......
This is all the same person Grama....  Born in New Jersey...
 Age 41
DOB   2/21/1968

Jennifer A Wampler -- Logansport, In
Jennifer Ickergill -- Davidson, MI
Jennifer Ickeringill -- Daytona Beach, FL
Jennifer Ickringill -- Crescent City, FL
Jemifer A Jacobs  -- Deland, FL
Jennifer Jacobs   -- Georgetown, FL
Jennifer A Jacobs -- Glen St. Mary, Fl
Jennifer Anne Jacobs -- Jacksonville, FL
Jennifer Jacobs -- Pomona Park, FL
Jennifer Sheffield -- Satsuma, FL
Jennifer A Sheffield -- Macclenny, Fl
Jennifer Anne Sheffield
Jennifer Townson
Jennifer Wambler
 

 ::MonkeyEek::  Why would one person need so many names?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



HE WAS HARD UP!!!  You take what you can get!!!

So he wouldn't reunite with Crystal - Gr. Neves not too happy

So, no charges brought against him, being with Misty

To keep her mouth shut!!!!

Cause she said she was pregnant.

Ron married her....not in his best interest.  I have not seen one pic of the two of them together where he was a HAPPY GROOM.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 01:56:12 PM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 


Grama... look see what I found.......
This is all the same person Grama....  Born in New Jersey...
 Age 41
DOB   2/21/1968

Jennifer A Wampler -- Logansport, In
Jennifer Ickergill -- Davidson, MI
Jennifer Ickeringill -- Daytona Beach, FL
Jennifer Ickringill -- Crescent City, FL
Jemifer A Jacobs  -- Deland, FL
Jennifer Jacobs   -- Georgetown, FL
Jennifer A Jacobs -- Glen St. Mary, Fl
Jennifer Anne Jacobs -- Jacksonville, FL
Jennifer Jacobs -- Pomona Park, FL
Jennifer Sheffield -- Satsuma, FL
Jennifer A Sheffield -- Macclenny, Fl
Jennifer Anne Sheffield
Jennifer Townson
Jennifer Wambler
 

 ::MonkeyEek::  Why would one person need so many names?

Each time you marry, name changes. Maybe someone looking for the 'pot of gold'.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 14, 2009, 01:56:55 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



Good question, there could be many reasons. When thinking about this I also think about how supportive his mom, and granny Sykes are towards Misty.

To keep her quiet, give her what she wants so she doesn't talk.
To keep himself from getting in trouble for her being underage.
Enemies close thing, but I don't see getting married in order to do that.
Cover his AZZ, is what I keep going back to.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 01:58:17 PM
Does anyone recall if there was a date when we would hear the results of the investigation for the custody case. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 02:02:02 PM
Does anyone recall if there was a date when we would hear the results of the investigation for the custody case. 



Pleaz Pleaz Pleaz, let it be yesterday, and we are having dreams of looking through the muck....... 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 02:05:51 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



Well, I can give you a multiple choice...
A. ron was bored and didn't have anything better to do that day.... 
B. With all the gossip he decided rather than face charges of messing with a teenage girl, he would make her legal.
C. He wanted to keep her quiet.
D. He thinks she knows something so he wants to keep her until she talks.
E. He wanted to get even with Crystal for being engaged.
F. He wanted to give her a reason to stay at home.. wifey....
G. He needed a trade in model, and now he plans on trading her in on a better model
I go with B Unless A means he was high on something


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
Ok, I think I have the true answer now.

Numbers 1 - 12 all replied NO  -  #13 was the only YES.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 02:13:31 PM
Heart ~  Look up..  140 Green Ln  Interlachen 32148

I found the road, but could not get a clear view. 


Grama... look see what I found.......
This is all the same person Grama....  Born in New Jersey...
 Age 41
DOB   2/21/1968

Jennifer A Wampler -- Logansport, In
Jennifer Ickergill -- Davidson, MI
Jennifer Ickeringill -- Daytona Beach, FL
Jennifer Ickringill -- Crescent City, FL
Jemifer A Jacobs  -- Deland, FL
Jennifer Jacobs   -- Georgetown, FL
Jennifer A Jacobs -- Glen St. Mary, Fl
Jennifer Anne Jacobs -- Jacksonville, FL
Jennifer Jacobs -- Pomona Park, FL
Jennifer Sheffield -- Satsuma, FL
Jennifer A Sheffield -- Macclenny, Fl
Jennifer Anne Sheffield
Jennifer Townson
Jennifer Wambler
 

 ::MonkeyEek::  Why would one person need so many names?

Each time you marry, name changes. Maybe someone looking for the 'pot of gold'.

Actually, I was outside thinking how many Grandparents Haleigh actually has..
Crystal's side she has:
Grandma Marie
Grandma Jennifer
Grandma Connie
Grandma neaves
Grandma whatever is short elevator's mom's name
Grandma whoever married to ron's dad.

Now if you look at the Grandpa's
Johnny Sheffield
Bruce Graffis
Jennifer's two ex husbands Townsend
                                     Wampler
ron's dad
short elevators Dad
---------------------------
now if you multiply each one by two
you have 12 sets of great Grandparents

With all of these Grandparents, and Great Grandparents How in this world was someone not watching?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 02:17:47 PM
NRCG posted this link on May 8th.

Here's a new article   http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/08/news/news02.txt

It doesn't specifically say a date...or if custody papers were filed, just an ongoing investigation.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 02:54:02 PM
NRCG posted this link on May 8th.

Here's a new article   http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/08/news/news02.txt

It doesn't specifically say a date...or if custody papers were filed, just an ongoing investigation.



So as long as ron and short elevator are residing in great grandma's house, children's services would believe that it is a stable home life.   But of course the facts remain, that Great Grandma is taking care of little ron, not the other two. When he does get a job and finds a place to live, then it would prove itself out.. I wonder if ron was advised of this by his friend that works at children's services, you know one of those, this is what you need to do type things.  Which if that is the case, that sorry man needs to be fired...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 14, 2009, 02:57:00 PM
Does anyone recall if there was a date when we would hear the results of the investigation for the custody case. 



Not really. I do remember KP saying that they were like 40 days into the investigation and DCF had 60 to close it, I remember thinking that the 'end' would be sometime in mid-May, so it should be ending soon. I don't know what we will hear about it though, unless it was found that JR needs to be removed, if that's the case I'm sure KP would let everyone know ........ I would guess the same would apply if NO abuse was found, RC's attorney would probably release another of his amazing  ::MonkeyRoll:: press releases.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 03:04:02 PM
Haleigh Update 5/14/09

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

Haleigh Bug Center is Now a Non-Profit Organization

The Haleigh Bug Center in Satsuma, FL has been the information and tip gathering point the town for those who have or seek information on 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings who was abducted from her home there on February 10, 2009.

The purple building on US 17 has been run so far by volunteers and by Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield.

I spoke with Crystal’s attorney Kim Picazio about the changes coming to the Haleigh Bug Center including the non-profit status and a full time staffer to deal with the day-to-day needs of the operation.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 14, 2009, 03:14:43 PM
Haleigh Update 5/14/09

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

Haleigh Bug Center is Now a Non-Profit Organization

The Haleigh Bug Center in Satsuma, FL has been the information and tip gathering point the town for those who have or seek information on 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings who was abducted from her home there on February 10, 2009.

The purple building on US 17 has been run so far by volunteers and by Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield.

I spoke with Crystal’s attorney Kim Picazio about the changes coming to the Haleigh Bug Center including the non-profit status and a full time staffer to deal with the day-to-day needs of the operation.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


Thanks Grama! I heard there is also supposed to be a story about Haleighbug on the local news tonight, hopefully they'll put it online, doubt we'll learn anything new tho.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 03:17:21 PM
Haleigh Update 5/14/09

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

Haleigh Bug Center is Now a Non-Profit Organization

The Haleigh Bug Center in Satsuma, FL has been the information and tip gathering point the town for those who have or seek information on 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings who was abducted from her home there on February 10, 2009.

The purple building on US 17 has been run so far by volunteers and by Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield.

I spoke with Crystal’s attorney Kim Picazio about the changes coming to the Haleigh Bug Center including the non-profit status and a full time staffer to deal with the day-to-day needs of the operation.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


There is also an AUDIO on this link.  Kim Picazio speaks about the center, the custody issues, their presentation on Sunday in Orlando at a convention, their appearance on the Geraldo Show....also that Marie Griffis is going to be speaking at the convention.  Very good bit of info coming from the Haleighbug Center spokesperson, Kim.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 03:32:06 PM
Haleigh Update 5/14/09

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

Haleigh Bug Center is Now a Non-Profit Organization

The Haleigh Bug Center in Satsuma, FL has been the information and tip gathering point the town for those who have or seek information on 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings who was abducted from her home there on February 10, 2009.

The purple building on US 17 has been run so far by volunteers and by Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield.

I spoke with Crystal’s attorney Kim Picazio about the changes coming to the Haleigh Bug Center including the non-profit status and a full time staffer to deal with the day-to-day needs of the operation.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php


There is also an AUDIO on this link.  Kim Picazio speaks about the center, the custody issues, their presentation on Sunday in Orlando at a convention, their appearance on the Geraldo Show....also that Marie Griffis is going to be speaking at the convention.  Very good bit of info coming from the Haleighbug Center spokesperson, Kim.

I was reading post the other day, and there were references, that this may well become a career status for Chrystal and possible Marie...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 03:35:53 PM
mlee , you mean the Anthony handbook ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 03:53:39 PM
mlee , you mean the Anthony handbook ?

No. being part of a National organization for Missing Children.. I found the postings after a news article went out..  Lets be honest, it seems that every parent with the exception of Casey,  all seem to become National Rep's.. I guess this is the course being laid out for Chrystal..  As you can tell Marie is already set up to speak at a convention....  And I do say, when the trial for Casey is over.. maybe George and Cindy will become National Spokesperson's too....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 04:08:44 PM
you guys want to know the truth... After everything we have found, talked about, fussed about.. looking at everyone of  these family members and their past to their present.. And to actually let this settle in the back of my brain ontop of the knowleged we have acquired... And they are going to establish a well paying career status, travel, speak at conventions, on tv.. Giving other Parents advise and recommendations..   

I have to just stop,  pinch my mouth and shake my head..   You have got to be kidding me..   Well, I guess ron better grab hold of someones coat tail and hang on for dear life if he wants any fame out of this...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 04:19:18 PM
I am not sure how all of these organizations function and what their limitations are if any.  But, I had followed the Anthony case from the very beginning.  Their LACK of searching for Caylee had everyone in an uproar.  They teamed up with the Kid's Finder's Network, headed by the Milsteads who are nothing but frauds.  They continue to take in funds, and yet have not found one child.

Not sure how long this will continue, should Haleigh be found.  If they are going to continue receiving donations and use the donations to help find other missing children, good for them.  At least they are attempting and best of all by he advice of their lawyer, Kim.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 04:21:57 PM
mlee , you mean the Anthony handbook ?

Yes, alagary and I have a name for it as well....."The Anthony Scam".


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 04:25:06 PM
Good afternoon monkeys.....didn't get to post yesterday ...hubby was off and we worked in the yard all day ugh! but looks good...been trying to catch up on the reading here...looks like last night was kinda slow but today lots of new stuff.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 04:40:02 PM
I am so stoked right now ::MonkeyDance:: I've been waiting for so long to get authorization and I finally did today!
(Thank you Mods :)
I read here every single day. Everyone here is very concerned and on top of this case as much as possible. I like all of you WANT HALEIGH FOUND!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 04:42:54 PM
TIMOTHY WAYNE FLETCHER
WELAKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/14/2009 10:16:07 AM  - Booking#: 09-01557
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/5/1984 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
944.40- ESCAPE  F S  $0.00   
782.04-1a1 HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER PREMEDITATED F C  $0.00   
812.135-2b ROBBERY-RESID HOME INVASION WITH WEAPON F F  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $1,004.00   
944.40- ESCAPE  F S  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $0.00   
782.04-1a1 HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER PREMEDITATED F C  $0.00   
812.135-2c ROBBERY-RESID HOME INVASION W/O FIREARM OR WEAPON F F  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $0.00   

This record is one of the escapees that from Satsuma jail, and was involved in a murder.  Why no bond for some of the charges??  Plus looks like he was out and was to appear. WHY??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 04:45:58 PM
I just read what was said on AH's website today. All very interesting stuff.
Good to see that LE is cleaning up that town somewhat KWIM?
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 04:46:31 PM
RAYMOND YOUNG
SATSUMA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/14/2009 3:08:11 PM  - Booking#: 09-01977
Release Date & Time: 5/14/2009 4:12:00 PM
DOB: 1/22/1983 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
943.0435- SEX OFFENDER REGISTRATION (NOT AN ARREST) IDENTIFY SEXUAL OFFENDER N N  $1,504.00  5/14/2009 4:10:28 PM          $1,504.00   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 04:50:27 PM
Welcome Patricia ~

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/CBonamieW2TGBlank-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 04:52:52 PM
Welcome patricia  ::MonkeyDance:: You'll get many more when the rest of the monkeys get on .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 04:56:35 PM
Thank you :)


(I'm reading back through some old stuff right now. BBL)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
Welcome Patricia.. Glad to have you aboard The Monkey Boat...  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 04:57:24 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



well at first I thought that it was to keep himself out of troulble with her being under age ....then I thought that maybe she was pg etc.....but my latest opinion on this is that she was wanting this really bad and was doing everything she could think of to get him to marry her....remember when Cobra said that Misty was calling Ron a lot  while he was trying to get the walk thru going? and he said that he heard her tell Ron that if he didn't get away from Cobra that she was going to go to her brothers house and he was never going to see her again? I thought WTH? her brothers live to close for him to never see her again...Then I read somewhere that it was Rumored that Misty's family was thinking about sending her to Michigan to keep the media off of her.So I think that he married her so they couldn't send her away? JMO

But what I don't understand is why gr-g sykes gave her ....her own wedding ring ( looked like a really nice ring...would make Haleigh a nice ring one day for her wedding) . You would think that with everything going on and all of the story changing,steppin out on Ron , fighting etc. that she would have just went and bought them a couple of nice cheap wedding bands and then if they were still together and doing good on their one year anniversary she could give the nicer ring to Misty then.After all they say that Ron and Misty had only been together for about 7 months and that they broke up once in the beginning,  5 months this time? Very strange why she is so supportive of Misty... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 05:00:52 PM
Welcome patricia  ::MonkeyDance:: You'll get many more when the rest of the monkeys get on .

Welcome Patricia! Glad that you are here  ::cartwheel::

Don't be shy ....jump on in!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 05:07:06 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



well at first I thought that it was to keep himself out of troulble with her being under age ....then I thought that maybe she was pg etc.....but my latest opinion on this is that she was wanting this really bad and was doing everything she could think of to get him to marry her....remember when Cobra said that Misty was calling Ron a lot  while he was trying to get the walk thru going? and he said that he heard her tell Ron that if he didn't get away from Cobra that she was going to go to her brothers house and he was never going to see her again? I thought WTH? her brothers live to close for him to never see her again...Then I read somewhere that it was Rumored that Misty's family was thinking about sending her to Michigan to keep the media off of her.So I think that he married her so they couldn't send her away? JMO

But what I don't understand is why gr-g sykes gave her ....her own wedding ring ( looked like a really nice ring...would make Haleigh a nice ring one day for her wedding) . You would think that with everything going on and all of the story changing,steppin out on Ron , fighting etc. that she would have just went and bought them a couple of nice cheap wedding bands and then if they were still together and doing good on their one year anniversary she could give the nicer ring to Misty then.After all they say that Ron and Misty had only been together for about 7 months and that they broke up once in the beginning,  5 months this time? Very strange why she is so supportive of Misty... ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish I had an answer for that.. to be honest it would end up being  a smart answer.. not smart smart..  I can't imagine these women doing what they have done for short elevator..   I would have thrown her butt out in the middle of the road, probably hoping for a semi..  Nope, they seemed to just take her right in.. even thought what she had been pulling, and the fact she was the last person in that residence to see Haleigh..... No answer..   Heck Crystal gave that woman Grandchilden, Amber gave that woman a Grandchild, only thing short elevator gave her was a major case of grief.....  Certainly is funny how people can crap all over others, and be rewarded for it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 05:08:20 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

“She was sitting on the front porch when we pulled up…her and junior sitting up there with the plate and eating…when we go up---she’s just hollering hey granny, hey granny, just like they always do,” said Sykes

wonder who we pulled up is? And someone had to drive a vehicle back when Misty's brother got the van....so there are at least two other people that were at the home that day, strange they don't want to place these people at the home ? wonder who they are and why?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 05:10:26 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



well at first I thought that it was to keep himself out of troulble with her being under age ....then I thought that maybe she was pg etc.....but my latest opinion on this is that she was wanting this really bad and was doing everything she could think of to get him to marry her....remember when Cobra said that Misty was calling Ron a lot  while he was trying to get the walk thru going? and he said that he heard her tell Ron that if he didn't get away from Cobra that she was going to go to her brothers house and he was never going to see her again? I thought WTH? her brothers live to close for him to never see her again...Then I read somewhere that it was Rumored that Misty's family was thinking about sending her to Michigan to keep the media off of her.So I think that he married her so they couldn't send her away? JMO

But what I don't understand is why gr-g sykes gave her ....her own wedding ring ( looked like a really nice ring...would make Haleigh a nice ring one day for her wedding) . You would think that with everything going on and all of the story changing,steppin out on Ron , fighting etc. that she would have just went and bought them a couple of nice cheap wedding bands and then if they were still together and doing good on their one year anniversary she could give the nicer ring to Misty then.After all they say that Ron and Misty had only been together for about 7 months and that they broke up once in the beginning,  5 months this time? Very strange why she is so supportive of Misty... ::MonkeyEek::

I really wish I had an answer for that.. to be honest it would end up being  a smart answer.. not smart smart..  I can't imagine these women doing what they have done for short elevator..   I would have thrown her butt out in the middle of the road, probably hoping for a semi..  Nope, they seemed to just take her right in.. even thought what she had been pulling, and the fact she was the last person in that residence to see Haleigh..... No answer..   Heck Crystal gave that woman Grandchilden, Amber gave that woman a Grandchild, only thing short elevator gave her was a major case of grief.....  Certainly is funny how people can crap all over others, and be rewarded for it.

exactly! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 05:14:11 PM
I am so stoked right now ::MonkeyDance:: I've been waiting for so long to get authorization and I finally did today!
(Thank you Mods :)
I read here every single day. Everyone here is very concerned and on top of this case as much as possible. I like all of you WANT HALEIGH FOUND!!!!

Welcome Patricia!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 05:17:21 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/One-Of-The-Last-Women-To-See-Haleigh-Cummings/8y-A0hXlRUGC-G4ZUvEUaA.cspx

“She was sitting on the front porch when we pulled up…her and junior sitting up there with the plate and eating…when we go up---she’s just hollering hey granny, hey granny, just like they always do,” said Sykes

wonder who we pulled up is? And someone had to drive a vehicle back when Misty's brother got the van....so there are at least two other people that were at the home that day, strange they don't want to place these people at the home ? wonder who they are and why?



There is also a statement or interview, that stated that Great Grandma had gone by to drop off the clothes and the kids were riding their bikes outside, and short elevator was fixing their dinner, stated it was about 7:30 to 8:00.. Great Grandma told them to go in the house, because they were gonna get dirty being outside.. I wondered if they had already bathed for the night, week, month?????  Now, that was before Grandma showed up and they were eating...  your right, even their stories are strange.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 05:43:53 PM
WELCOME Patricia


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 05:57:34 PM
One of the many things that stick out and bother me to no end is that up until now Ron hasn't willingly spoken to the public asking for people to help find his Daughter for quite some time. I give him a smidgen of credit though because he did do this appearance on his lawyers website. Problem is...How many people are actually going to even look at that website?
I think what really threw me was back when he was vocally expressing that he didn't like the media being around. I would think that as a parent if my child were missing I would beg and plead for the media coverage in hopes that it would lead to my child being found and returned.
I can't get past that and several other issues such as, just as others have mentioned,...He actually married Misty and the biggest problem I have with that fact is the reasoning as to why they did it. I don't believe for one second that their getting married was something that Haleigh had wanted.
I just don't believe that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 06:01:33 PM
WELCOME Patricia
Thank you and hello :)



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 06:02:04 PM
Haleigh story on HLn


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 06:09:12 PM
TIMOTHY WAYNE FLETCHER
WELAKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/14/2009 10:16:07 AM  - Booking#: 09-01557
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/5/1984 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
944.40- ESCAPE  F S  $0.00   
782.04-1a1 HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER PREMEDITATED F C  $0.00   
812.135-2b ROBBERY-RESID HOME INVASION WITH WEAPON F F  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $1,004.00   
944.40- ESCAPE  F S  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $0.00   
782.04-1a1 HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER PREMEDITATED F C  $0.00   
812.135-2c ROBBERY-RESID HOME INVASION W/O FIREARM OR WEAPON F F  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $0.00   

This record is one of the escapees that from Satsuma jail, and was involved in a murder.  Why no bond for some of the charges??  Plus looks like he was out and was to appear. WHY??

I don't know how to "read" these things.  It does look like the only bond was set for grand theft auto.. but not for premeditated murder of his gma??   ::MonkeyEek::  Please someone tell me I'm reading this wrong! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
I think that means no bond on that charge . ain't getting out .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 06:17:18 PM
TIMOTHY WAYNE FLETCHER
WELAKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/14/2009 10:16:07 AM  - Booking#: 09-01557
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/5/1984 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
843.15-1a FAILURE TO APPEAR  F T  $0.00   
944.40- ESCAPE  F S  $0.00   
782.04-1a1 HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER PREMEDITATED F C  $0.00   
812.135-2b ROBBERY-RESID HOME INVASION WITH WEAPON F F  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $1,004.00   
944.40- ESCAPE  F S  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $0.00   
782.04-1a1 HOMICIDE-WILLFUL KILL MURDER PREMEDITATED F C  $0.00   
812.135-2c ROBBERY-RESID HOME INVASION W/O FIREARM OR WEAPON F F  $0.00   
812.014-2c6 VEH THEFT GRAND 3RD DEGREE F T  $0.00   

This record is one of the escapees that from Satsuma jail, and was involved in a murder.  Why no bond for some of the charges??  Plus looks like he was out and was to appear. WHY??

I don't know how to "read" these things.  It does look like the only bond was set for grand theft auto.. but not for premeditated murder of his gma??   ::MonkeyEek::  Please someone tell me I'm reading this wrong! 


Murder is a no bond..  they may set a bond for a lesser charge..  He has rights which allow him bond for lesser charges.. but for the Murder he doesn't have a right to bond..  So, he should be setting his butt in the jail for a long time, the trial will take up to a year to start and then could go up to a year.. he might get a death sentence.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 06:21:30 PM
One of the many things that stick out and bother me to no end is that up until now Ron hasn't willingly spoken to the public asking for people to help find his Daughter for quite some time. I give him a smidgen of credit though because he did do this appearance on his lawyers website. Problem is...How many people are actually going to even look at that website?
I think what really threw me was back when he was vocally expressing that he didn't like the media being around. I would think that as a parent if my child were missing I would beg and plead for the media coverage in hopes that it would lead to my child being found and returned.
I can't get past that and several other issues such as, just as others have mentioned,...He actually married Misty and the biggest problem I have with that fact is the reasoning as to why they did it. I don't believe for one second that their getting married was something that Haleigh had wanted.
I just don't believe that.

I don't believe that either, about Haleigh wanting the marriage, I also don't believe one word out of his mouth, I just don't trust him. And you are right, how many people are going to go on his lawyer's website and see that video, not many I would guess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 06:26:27 PM
One of the many things that stick out and bother me to no end is that up until now Ron hasn't willingly spoken to the public asking for people to help find his Daughter for quite some time. I give him a smidgen of credit though because he did do this appearance on his lawyers website. Problem is...How many people are actually going to even look at that website?
I think what really threw me was back when he was vocally expressing that he didn't like the media being around. I would think that as a parent if my child were missing I would beg and plead for the media coverage in hopes that it would lead to my child being found and returned.
I can't get past that and several other issues such as, just as others have mentioned,...He actually married Misty and the biggest problem I have with that fact is the reasoning as to why they did it. I don't believe for one second that their getting married was something that Haleigh had wanted.
I just don't believe that.

I don't believe that either, about Haleigh wanting the marriage, I also don't believe one word out of his mouth, I just don't trust him. And you are right, how many people are going to go on his lawyer's website and see that video, not many I would guess.

none of it is going to do him any good.. this whole thing is set up for sympathy.. Trying to make him look like that poor innocent boy who is so misunderstood..  Trust me, those tear may have been water sprayed on his face.. And of course they would have him dressed up clean cut, and his hair actually combed.  Same for court.. Appearance..  He can be the scrudest looking person in the world on the day he commits a criminal act.. But, when they get to court.. they clean up and shine.. This is all for the public.  If you really by the act.. I have a wooden bridge to sell.. any takers?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 06:27:20 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 06:40:33 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.


I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 06:43:35 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Funny too me also is that it took so long for his attys to even get that out of him. How long were people supposed to be waiting around to hear what he had to say?
I'm not even sure what the hold up was but the website has said there was going to be a video of Ron up for how long now?
I agree an act, a terrible one at that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 14, 2009, 06:50:15 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 06:54:46 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Family-Rumors-Person-Was-Inside-Home-Are/retraOmmEkGCL_R0FwZ4DA.cspx

Sykes says she was at the Cummings household within 15 minutes of the abduction. She says she also took Ronald Jr. to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office where he was interviewed by detectives.

“I carried him for the child psychologist to interview him…he spent quite a lot of time with two or three different ones. They said his story changed. Each time you ask him something, you know, you ask it a different way and he’d change his story,” said Sykes.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office confirms Ronald Jr. was questioned, but would not elaborate on his answers or the questions asked. They did say they have followed up on every lead that originated from that interview


she said that she was there within 15 minutes of the abduction? We don't know for sure what time it even took place do we ? she sure did get there fast....if Ron was the first person that Misty called and he was driving up at the time and told her you call 911 and I will tear up the house then who called gr gma and when? it sounds like she got the before LE....wonder why Misty called on Ronalds phone ? instead of hers? the dispatcher said that she would stay on the line until they got there so .....wonder how sykes found out about Haleigh? Wonder why she was the one that took Ronald down to the LE office? Teresa was there according to police reports? wonder why she didn't take him? I could not hear a peep of him during the 911 call , with all of the yelling etc you think he would have woke up and been crying?.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 06:56:52 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 06:57:14 PM


[/quote]

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.


I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


It's odd she says this but too she says she put both kids to bed around 8:oo (cause that is their bedtime.) She also says around 8:30 pm another time. I can hardly keep up with all the different Misty stories to be quite honest.

It also states in the official police report that she told LE that her, Haleigh and Jr  were all in her bed. Well that's odd to say since she also says that Jr. was up and walking out of her room that she was out after that and didn't remember nothing. (How could she know that they were all in one bed since she "allegedly" passed out?)
I think there is a chance that she threw Jr. being up and walking out of the room to leave a question of maybe Jr opening that back door or?
It's hard to say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 06:59:01 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

Thanks for the heads up ....I want to watch that 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:00:41 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Family-Rumors-Person-Was-Inside-Home-Are/retraOmmEkGCL_R0FwZ4DA.cspx

Sykes says she was at the Cummings household within 15 minutes of the abduction. She says she also took Ronald Jr. to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office where he was interviewed by detectives.

“I carried him for the child psychologist to interview him…he spent quite a lot of time with two or three different ones. They said his story changed. Each time you ask him something, you know, you ask it a different way and he’d change his story,” said Sykes.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office confirms Ronald Jr. was questioned, but would not elaborate on his answers or the questions asked. They did say they have followed up on every lead that originated from that interview


she said that she was there within 15 minutes of the abduction? We don't know for sure what time it even took place do we ? she sure did get there fast....if Ron was the first person that Misty called and he was driving up at the time and told her you call 911 and I will tear up the house then who called gr gma and when? it sounds like she got the before LE....wonder why Misty called on Ronalds phone ? instead of hers? the dispatcher said that she would stay on the line until they got there so .....wonder how sykes found out about Haleigh? Wonder why she was the one that took Ronald down to the LE office? Teresa was there according to police reports? wonder why she didn't take him? I could not hear a peep of him during the 911 call , with all of the yelling etc you think he would have woke up and been crying?.... ::MonkeyConfused::

Also Misty is saying that as soon as Ron pulled up that he told her to call 911 and that she did. Where is all this time for her and Ron to be calling her Mother, his Mother etc...?
Shouldn't they have been looking for Haleigh? I dunno it just bugs me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
JVM going to talk to Art about Jerome on HLN


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 07:03:03 PM



http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.


I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


It's odd she says this but too she says she put both kids to bed around 8:oo (cause that is their bedtime.) She also says around 8:30 pm another time. I can hardly keep up with all the different Misty stories to be quite honest.

It also states in the official police report that she told LE that her, Haleigh and Jr  were all in her bed. Well that's odd to say since she also says that Jr. was up and walking out of her room that she was out after that and didn't remember nothing. (How could she know that they were all in one bed since she "allegedly" passed out?)
I think there is a chance that she threw Jr. being up and walking out of the room to leave a question of maybe Jr opening that back door or?
It's hard to say.
[/quote]

could be since she also said that Haleigh must have changed out the dvd's....strange how Haleigh could reach the dvd player and not the deadbolt underneath the doorknob on the back door...dresser looked much taller to me....okay Misty whatever ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree as well! 

What cinched it for me is when he was doing interview after interview early on, and did NOT even mention Haleigh's name, until the one doing the interview *asked* him to make a plea for her safe return.  And then he switched from angry mode to what seemed to me fake tears. 

Lots of those interviewed 'seemed' to me to be fake, not just Ron, so folks plz don't think I'm just trying to bash on Ron today.  Seems some in each family (Ron's, Misty's and Crystal's sides) could turn those 'tears' on and off at whim, proven by the fact that the tears poured when they seemed to realize the cameras were on, and off when they seemed to think the cameras were off.  Caught, each of them, when the cameras still rolled. 

But as other monkeys have asked before .. really, how many of us would have, could have, gone in front of the cameras early on and not once mentioned missing child's name or made a plea for a safe return, only doing so when ASKED to do so???   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Am thinking the whole dayum thing was freakin staged .. by someone .. and I just cannot be sure who. 
 
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:04:49 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 07:04:54 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Family-Rumors-Person-Was-Inside-Home-Are/retraOmmEkGCL_R0FwZ4DA.cspx

Sykes says she was at the Cummings household within 15 minutes of the abduction. She says she also took Ronald Jr. to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office where he was interviewed by detectives.

“I carried him for the child psychologist to interview him…he spent quite a lot of time with two or three different ones. They said his story changed. Each time you ask him something, you know, you ask it a different way and he’d change his story,” said Sykes.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office confirms Ronald Jr. was questioned, but would not elaborate on his answers or the questions asked. They did say they have followed up on every lead that originated from that interview


she said that she was there within 15 minutes of the abduction? We don't know for sure what time it even took place do we ? she sure did get there fast....if Ron was the first person that Misty called and he was driving up at the time and told her you call 911 and I will tear up the house then who called gr gma and when? it sounds like she got the before LE....wonder why Misty called on Ronalds phone ? instead of hers? the dispatcher said that she would stay on the line until they got there so .....wonder how sykes found out about Haleigh? Wonder why she was the one that took Ronald down to the LE office? Teresa was there according to police reports? wonder why she didn't take him? I could not hear a peep of him during the 911 call , with all of the yelling etc you think he would have woke up and been crying?.... ::MonkeyConfused::

This does put questions out... 
How does she know what time the abduction occurred?
Thats a very good question about the phone, why did she use his phone.
When did she take little ron to the LE, not that night she didn't.
She is also the one that called Marie,
none of them called Crystal.
There was nothing out of him on that 911 tape, if he were awake he should be screaming with fear..

See, all of their stories leave empty places.. Like they tried to get the story together, but no body can follow their lines.
ron's is simple..  I was at work.. 

But, there is tid bits out there, that he wasn't..  rumors??? eye witness???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 07:05:50 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Family-Rumors-Person-Was-Inside-Home-Are/retraOmmEkGCL_R0FwZ4DA.cspx

Sykes says she was at the Cummings household within 15 minutes of the abduction. She says she also took Ronald Jr. to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office where he was interviewed by detectives.

“I carried him for the child psychologist to interview him…he spent quite a lot of time with two or three different ones. They said his story changed. Each time you ask him something, you know, you ask it a different way and he’d change his story,” said Sykes.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office confirms Ronald Jr. was questioned, but would not elaborate on his answers or the questions asked. They did say they have followed up on every lead that originated from that interview


she said that she was there within 15 minutes of the abduction? We don't know for sure what time it even took place do we ? she sure did get there fast....if Ron was the first person that Misty called and he was driving up at the time and told her you call 911 and I will tear up the house then who called gr gma and when? it sounds like she got the before LE....wonder why Misty called on Ronalds phone ? instead of hers? the dispatcher said that she would stay on the line until they got there so .....wonder how sykes found out about Haleigh? Wonder why she was the one that took Ronald down to the LE office? Teresa was there according to police reports? wonder why she didn't take him? I could not hear a peep of him during the 911 call , with all of the yelling etc you think he would have woke up and been crying?.... ::MonkeyConfused::

Also Misty is saying that as soon as Ron pulled up that he told her to call 911 and that she did. Where is all this time for her and Ron to be calling her Mother, his Mother etc...?
Shouldn't they have been looking for Haleigh? I dunno it just bugs me.

me too.... ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:09:09 PM
mlee and alagary, thank you for explaining about the no-bond thing.  Makes sense to me now!   ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 14, 2009, 07:11:00 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Family-Rumors-Person-Was-Inside-Home-Are/retraOmmEkGCL_R0FwZ4DA.cspx

Sykes says she was at the Cummings household within 15 minutes of the abduction. She says she also took Ronald Jr. to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office where he was interviewed by detectives.

“I carried him for the child psychologist to interview him…he spent quite a lot of time with two or three different ones. They said his story changed. Each time you ask him something, you know, you ask it a different way and he’d change his story,” said Sykes.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office confirms Ronald Jr. was questioned, but would not elaborate on his answers or the questions asked. They did say they have followed up on every lead that originated from that interview


she said that she was there within 15 minutes of the abduction? We don't know for sure what time it even took place do we ? she sure did get there fast....if Ron was the first person that Misty called and he was driving up at the time and told her you call 911 and I will tear up the house then who called gr gma and when? it sounds like she got the before LE....wonder why Misty called on Ronalds phone ? instead of hers? the dispatcher said that she would stay on the line until they got there so .....wonder how sykes found out about Haleigh? Wonder why she was the one that took Ronald down to the LE office? Teresa was there according to police reports? wonder why she didn't take him? I could not hear a peep of him during the 911 call , with all of the yelling etc you think he would have woke up and been crying?.... ::MonkeyConfused::

This does put questions out... 
How does she know what time the abduction occurred?
Thats a very good question about the phone, why did she use his phone.
When did she take little ron to the LE, not that night she didn't.
She is also the one that called Marie,
none of them called Crystal.
There was nothing out of him on that 911 tape, if he were awake he should be screaming with fear..

See, all of their stories leave empty places.. Like they tried to get the story together, but no body can follow their lines.
ron's is simple..  I was at work.. 

But, there is tid bits out there, that he wasn't..  rumors??? eye witness???

wish LE could/would be as open with this case as LE was with the Anthony case...we would have  so much more to go on 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:12:04 PM
Hi Patricia and welcome!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)


Welcome to all our new monkeys! 

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 07:13:58 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree as well! 

What cinched it for me is when he was doing interview after interview early on, and did NOT even mention Haleigh's name, until the one doing the interview *asked* him to make a plea for her safe return.  And then he switched from angry mode to what seemed to me fake tears. 

Lots of those interviewed 'seemed' to me to be fake, not just Ron, so folks plz don't think I'm just trying to bash on Ron today.  Seems some in each family (Ron's, Misty's and Crystal's sides) could turn those 'tears' on and off at whim, proven by the fact that the tears poured when they seemed to realize the cameras were on, and off when they seemed to think the cameras were off.  Caught, each of them, when the cameras still rolled. 

But as other monkeys have asked before .. really, how many of us would have, could have, gone in front of the cameras early on and not once mentioned missing child's name or made a plea for a safe return, only doing so when ASKED to do so???   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Am thinking the whole dayum thing was freakin staged .. by someone .. and I just cannot be sure who. 
 
   

You are so right Wykes, I have watched those interviews until I thought I was going to cry from being stupid and watching these people's bad acting..  What really lingers in the back of my head is the photos I found of Marie and Crystal being photographed after their makeup was put on for a show..  These people do not show any signs that they are sad, in pain, hurting, crying, nothing but smiles, and posing for the camera..  A Poster who has seen ron and short elevator out in public, and ron's comments, "do you know who I am?"  And with his game, he's getting free meals.  In short he is showing his butt badly...  I am angry with all of them tonight..  they have found a big Gravy train to ride.. at the expense of Little Haleigh..  In my heart and mind, I do believe she is going to re appear, perfectly safe and sound.. But, it won't happen until the custody issue is resolved..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:15:13 PM
Hi Patricia and welcome!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)


Welcome to all our new monkeys! 

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Thank you Wyks :)
I've been a fan of all yall for quite some time now.
I hope to hear from Island Monkey soon. I bet she is loving that brand new Grand Baby!
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:20:05 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree as well! 

What cinched it for me is when he was doing interview after interview early on, and did NOT even mention Haleigh's name, until the one doing the interview *asked* him to make a plea for her safe return.  And then he switched from angry mode to what seemed to me fake tears. 

Lots of those interviewed 'seemed' to me to be fake, not just Ron, so folks plz don't think I'm just trying to bash on Ron today.  Seems some in each family (Ron's, Misty's and Crystal's sides) could turn those 'tears' on and off at whim, proven by the fact that the tears poured when they seemed to realize the cameras were on, and off when they seemed to think the cameras were off.  Caught, each of them, when the cameras still rolled. 

But as other monkeys have asked before .. really, how many of us would have, could have, gone in front of the cameras early on and not once mentioned missing child's name or made a plea for a safe return, only doing so when ASKED to do so???   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Am thinking the whole dayum thing was freakin staged .. by someone .. and I just cannot be sure who. 
 
   

You are so right Wykes, I have watched those interviews until I thought I was going to cry from being stupid and watching these people's bad acting..  What really lingers in the back of my head is the photos I found of Marie and Crystal being photographed after their makeup was put on for a show..  These people do not show any signs that they are sad, in pain, hurting, crying, nothing but smiles, and posing for the camera..  A Poster who has seen ron and short elevator out in public, and ron's comments, "do you know who I am?"  And with his game, he's getting free meals.  In short he is showing his butt badly...  I am angry with all of them tonight..  they have found a big Gravy train to ride.. at the expense of Little Haleigh..  In my heart and mind, I do believe she is going to re appear, perfectly safe and sound.. But, it won't happen until the custody issue is resolved..

Wow that would be something though. Heres to hoping and praying that you are right.
I'm not a big fan of any of these people. I think they all have made mistakes ect... but for crying out loud there is a little girl missing. Their own flesh and blood Daughter so please can they do us all a favor and show more concern than we seem to have? We don't even know this child and I'll tell ya what, I haven't had much quality sleep since the day Haleigh come up missing.
OK I think I just hecka vented.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 07:22:30 PM
Hi Patricia and welcome!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/wavehi.gif)


Welcome to all our new monkeys! 

(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/welcome.gif)



Thank you Wyks :)
I've been a fan of all yall for quite some time now.
I hope to hear from Island Monkey soon. I bet she is loving that brand new Grand Baby!
 

I do imagine he is a shinning star in her eyes, just wait till he gets bigger and home.. Her head and heart will be so big from pride and love, not gonna know what to do with her..  1st birthday, she's gonna have more photos to show than we can even imagine.. might as well have his own little picture forum setup..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.

I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyAngel::

Well Justing Thinking Out Loud again.. As I see it Fisbty told so many storied  so now she is pulling a Ron.. She doesn't remember ... Ron WAS at work....  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 07:25:57 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.
dit

I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyAngel::

Well Justing Thinking Out Loud again.. As I see it Fisbty told so many storied   s so now she is pulling a Ron.. She doesn't remember ... Ron WAS at work....  ::MonkeyConfused::
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:29:43 PM

Wow that would be something though. Heres to hoping and praying that you are right.
I'm not a big fan of any of these people. I think they all have made mistakes ect... but for crying out loud there is a little girl missing. Their own flesh and blood Daughter so please can they do us all a favor and show more concern than we seem to have? We don't even know this child and I'll tell ya what, I haven't had much quality sleep since the day Haleigh come up missing.
OK I think I just hecka vented.  ::MonkeyEek::

MWAHAHAHA!  You're in good company then, Patricia!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Ya know, when you said "all y'all" in an earlier post, I thought yippee she's from the midwest!  But now you said "hecka" and I'm like omg yesssssss she's from Northern California!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Not that it matters one whit where anyone is from, just thought I'd share that and am not sure why.  ahahaha! 

But I digress...

In total agreement with you, sure wish Haleigh's loved ones would get it together enough to put her first and all this other stuff on the back burner.  For gosh sake!


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:33:21 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I agree as well! 

What cinched it for me is when he was doing interview after interview early on, and did NOT even mention Haleigh's name, until the one doing the interview *asked* him to make a plea for her safe return.  And then he switched from angry mode to what seemed to me fake tears. 

Lots of those interviewed 'seemed' to me to be fake, not just Ron, so folks plz don't think I'm just trying to bash on Ron today.  Seems some in each family (Ron's, Misty's and Crystal's sides) could turn those 'tears' on and off at whim, proven by the fact that the tears poured when they seemed to realize the cameras were on, and off when they seemed to think the cameras were off.  Caught, each of them, when the cameras still rolled. 

But as other monkeys have asked before .. really, how many of us would have, could have, gone in front of the cameras early on and not once mentioned missing child's name or made a plea for a safe return, only doing so when ASKED to do so???   ::MonkeyNoNo::

Am thinking the whole dayum thing was freakin staged .. by someone .. and I just cannot be sure who. 
 
   

You are so right Wykes, I have watched those interviews until I thought I was going to cry from being stupid and watching these people's bad acting..  What really lingers in the back of my head is the photos I found of Marie and Crystal being photographed after their makeup was put on for a show..  These people do not show any signs that they are sad, in pain, hurting, crying, nothing but smiles, and posing for the camera..  A Poster who has seen ron and short elevator out in public, and ron's comments, "do you know who I am?"  And with his game, he's getting free meals.  In short he is showing his butt badly...  I am angry with all of them tonight..  they have found a big Gravy train to ride.. at the expense of Little Haleigh..  In my heart and mind, I do believe she is going to re appear, perfectly safe and sound.. But, it won't happen until the custody issue is resolved..

I agree mlee!  And I want Haleigh to reappear, safe and sound too.  While we want that so much, at the same time, it won't be good for her to be in a tug-of-war between her parents and their families.  IMO.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:36:50 PM

Wow that would be something though. Heres to hoping and praying that you are right.
I'm not a big fan of any of these people. I think they all have made mistakes ect... but for crying out loud there is a little girl missing. Their own flesh and blood Daughter so please can they do us all a favor and show more concern than we seem to have? We don't even know this child and I'll tell ya what, I haven't had much quality sleep since the day Haleigh come up missing.
OK I think I just hecka vented.  ::MonkeyEek::

MWAHAHAHA!  You're in good company then, Patricia!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Ya know, when you said "all y'all" in an earlier post, I thought yippee she's from the midwest!  But now you said "hecka" and I'm like omg yesssssss she's from Northern California!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Not that it matters one whit where anyone is from, just thought I'd share that and am not sure why.  ahahaha! 

But I digress...

In total agreement with you, sure wish Haleigh's loved ones would get it together enough to put her first and all this other stuff on the back burner.  For gosh sake!


 
Welp I was born in South Carolina, most my family is from and currently resides in Oklahoma and I'm living in Cali. LOL
As for Haleigh I think she gets a huge amount of love from all of us. I just hope that we can help to find her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 07:37:17 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.
dit

I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyAngel::

Well Justing Thinking Out Loud again.. As I see it Fisbty told so many storied   s so now she is pulling a Ron.. She doesn't remember ... Ron WAS at work....  ::MonkeyConfused::
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you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 07:44:40 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.
dit

I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyAngel::

Well Justing Thinking Out Loud again.. As I see it Fisbty told so many storied   s so now she is pulling a Ron.. She doesn't remember ... Ron WAS at work....  ::MonkeyConfused::
edit

you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.

What abduction?? I just got home from work... Details.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:45:34 PM

Wow that would be something though. Heres to hoping and praying that you are right.
I'm not a big fan of any of these people. I think they all have made mistakes ect... but for crying out loud there is a little girl missing. Their own flesh and blood Daughter so please can they do us all a favor and show more concern than we seem to have? We don't even know this child and I'll tell ya what, I haven't had much quality sleep since the day Haleigh come up missing.
OK I think I just hecka vented.  ::MonkeyEek::

MWAHAHAHA!  You're in good company then, Patricia!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

Ya know, when you said "all y'all" in an earlier post, I thought yippee she's from the midwest!  But now you said "hecka" and I'm like omg yesssssss she's from Northern California!   ::MonkeyHaHa::  Not that it matters one whit where anyone is from, just thought I'd share that and am not sure why.  ahahaha! 

But I digress...

In total agreement with you, sure wish Haleigh's loved ones would get it together enough to put her first and all this other stuff on the back burner.  For gosh sake!
 
Welp I was born in South Carolina, most my family is from and currently resides in Oklahoma and I'm living in Cali. LOL
As for Haleigh I think she gets a huge amount of love from all of us. I just hope that we can help to find her.

How cool is that?  I hecka miss Cali.  Ok, I hella miss it.  sigh. 

Am thinking we'd all be in Florida in a heartbeat searching for Haleigh if we could.  Yet brainstorming and researching, etc. from wherever we each happen to be, just might help come up with something that LE might have missed, who knows? 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:47:23 PM
There is some new stuff up at Art Harris's website www.artharris.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:48:21 PM

you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.

What abduction?? I just got home from work... Details.. ::MonkeyTongue::

A four year old girl in Orlando, attempted abduction (I heard early this morning.. might be same diff as last night) .. thwarted when she screammmmmmmmmmed!!   ::MonkeyDance::  dude ran off.

And JVM wondering why Haleigh reportedly didn't scream. 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 07:48:24 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.
Like I said, this is coming from a local, and have no idea if this is true, not surprising. She probably should have seen this coming, but because she is so young, and in love  ::MonkeyRoll:: she probably didn't.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 07:52:52 PM


How cool is that?  I hecka miss Cali.  Ok, I hella miss it.  sigh. 

Am thinking we'd all be in Florida in a heartbeat searching for Haleigh if we could.  Yet brainstorming and researching, etc. from wherever we each happen to be, just might help come up with something that LE might have missed, who knows? 


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LOL! That's the spirit!
I agree brainstorming and researching. I've been watching this group like I said and I have to say MONKEY'S RULE!  ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::
(I am so happy to be a Monkey now!)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 07:54:36 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.
Like I said, this is coming from a local, and have no idea if this is true, not surprising. She probably should have seen this coming, but because she is so young, and in love  ::MonkeyRoll:: she probably didn't.

Hmmm yessss.  Young, in love, stars in her eyes, likely doesn't believe a dang thing anyone has tried to tell her.  At 17, probably thinks 'might have happened to you, won't happen to me, cuz he lovvvvvvvvvvvves me, he said so!'  something like that.  When I stop and think about it, I have to realize that Misty is still a child in some ways, I gotta stop expecting her to think and act like a full grown adult. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
There is some new stuff up at Art Harris's website www.artharris.com
Well, that was very interesting  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 07:57:17 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.
Like I said, this is coming from a local, and have no idea if this is true, not surprising. She probably should have seen this coming, but because she is so young, and in love  ::MonkeyRoll:: she probably didn't.

Hmmm yessss.  Young, in love, stars in her eyes, likely doesn't believe a dang thing anyone has tried to tell her.  At 17, probably thinks 'might have happened to you, won't happen to me, cuz he lovvvvvvvvvvvves me, he said so!'  something like that.  When I stop and think about it, I have to realize that Misty is still a child in some ways, I gotta stop expecting her to think and act like a full grown adult. 

And she also didn't seem to have the greatest home life, and then that boyfriend who attacked her, maybe she feels she hit the jackpot with Ron.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 07:57:59 PM
To give me something to think about on my trek to work today, and because I really want to know what you think...can I do a Nancy Grace on ya'll?

We've seen the pictures.  She was smiling, he didn't look happy.
Tell me why, in your opinion, did Ronald and Misty get married?

Monkeys, WEIGH IN!!!!

I've been mulling this over all morning...would like to hear your thoughts.



well at first I thought that it was to keep himself out of troulble with her being under age ....then I thought that maybe she was pg etc.....but my latest opinion on this is that she was wanting this really bad and was doing everything she could think of to get him to marry her....remember when Cobra said that Misty was calling Ron a lot  while he was trying to get the walk thru going? and he said that he heard her tell Ron that if he didn't get away from Cobra that she was going to go to her brothers house and he was never going to see her again? I thought WTH? her brothers live to close for him to never see her again...Then I read somewhere that it was Rumored that Misty's family was thinking about sending her to Michigan to keep the media off of her.So I think that he married her so they couldn't send her away? JMO

But what I don't understand is why gr-g sykes gave her ....her own wedding ring ( looked like a really nice ring...would make Haleigh a nice ring one day for her wedding) . You would think that with everything going on and all of the story changing,steppin out on Ron , fighting etc. that she would have just went and bought them a couple of nice cheap wedding bands and then if they were still together and doing good on their one year anniversary she could give the nicer ring to Misty then.After all they say that Ron and Misty had only been together for about 7 months and that they broke up once in the beginning,  5 months this time? Very strange why she is so supportive of Misty... ::MonkeyEek::

What was the hurry??? Wouldnt it been nice if Haleigh really wanted them to be married they would of waited till Haleigh came home.. Another thing I would of Locked her in one of those hog pens until she told me what happen that night.... The Cummings  knew she was unfit babysitter/g/f for the children... Why all the praise for Fibsty??? She was the last to see Haleigh..I tell you this none of my sons would of had my blessing marrying someone like Fibsty . Where is Haleigh......  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 07:58:39 PM
Can someone paste that part from AH where Santos says ron told him an his mom "well , Haleigh was missing "   ? sorry I dont know how . If its true ,it's very odd .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
Can someone paste that part from AH where Santos says ron told him an his mom "well , Haleigh was missing "   ? sorry I dont know how . If its true ,it's very odd .

I left a comment. Not sure when AH will update but wow. If what was said about Haleigh's shirt needed changed is true and then the bus hadn't even left yet and all the rest I am seriously concerned about the agressive nature that was witnessed by the neighbor for sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 08:08:28 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Funny too me also is that it took so long for his attys to even get that out of him. How long were people supposed to be waiting around to hear what he had to say?
I'm not even sure what the hold up was but the website has said there was going to be a video of Ron up for how long now?
I agree an act, a terrible one at that.

Hmmmmm   Patricia  I think he was running low on donated funds....so had to make an appearance.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 08:12:44 PM
I agree it is all an act  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Funny too me also is that it took so long for his attys to even get that out of him. How long were people supposed to be waiting around to hear what he had to say?
I'm not even sure what the hold up was but the website has said there was going to be a video of Ron up for how long now?
I agree an act, a terrible one at that.

Hmmmmm   Patricia  I think he was running low on donated funds....so had to make an appearance.


Sad to say, you could very well be correct.
BTW Thank you so much for all the research that you do. You are a charm!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 08:14:25 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx


The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.
dit

I wonder if she would agree to being hypnotized????


Good Evening Monkey's..... ::MonkeyAngel::

Well Justing Thinking Out Loud again.. As I see it Fisbty told so many storied   s so now she is pulling a Ron.. She doesn't remember ... Ron WAS at work....  ::MonkeyConfused::
edit

you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.

What abduction?? I just got home from work... Details.. ::MonkeyTongue::

Investigators say a man broke into a house through a window and attempted to abduct a girl who was sleeping in her bed early Thursday.  Child was a four year old, and she began to scream.. this stopped the predator..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 08:15:25 PM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/19461276_320X180.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Thanks Patricia ~
Today it may have appeared I submitted more, but generally we have more Monkey's swinging by and they also contribute a lot of good info.  Between all of us, we try to get it all posted.  Getting to the point that there does not appear to be much to report and that is getting maddening.

Where is Haleigh!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 08:23:50 PM
Can someone paste that part from AH where Santos says ron told him an his mom "well , Haleigh was missing "   ? sorry I dont know how . If its true ,it's very odd .

Here ya go alagary!!!  I hope this is the part that you wanted. If not, let me know which article it is in that you want.

In the Cummings case, some witnesses have spoken to both DFS and police in joint meetings. Jerry Santos, a father of three and Ronald Cummings’ neighbor, tells me he described how Ronald was driving his purple Altima like a bat out of hell on the Monday morning that was Haleigh’s last day at school. In fact, Santos believes he saw her through Ronald’s tinted windows as the father sped around the corner, whipping within inches of a pickup truck and nearly hitting him and others. He told investigators his daughter, a third grader who had taken Haleigh under wing when they road the bus together, was frightened for days afterwards. He recalls at least one detective giving him a thumbs up, “like now they knew why Ronald was in such a hurry that day. They didn’t tell me anything, just, ‘Now it’s starting to make sense.”


Santos tells me he also told investigators about a bizarre meeting with Cummings immediately after Geraldo Rivera, the FOX news host, confronted Ronald on camera, hitting him hard about allegedly abusing his ex, Crystal. Afterwards, he says Cummings made a beeline for his house to press Santos’ father to counter Geraldo’s charges by contacting FOX to declare him a fit parent. Cummings figured he’d do it because Jerry’s father is the DFS investigator who dug into complaints against Cummings in the past, including one that charged he had abused Junior by beating him with a stick.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 08:24:53 PM
Thanks Patricia ~
Today it may have appeared I submitted more, but generally we have more Monkey's swinging by and they also contribute a lot of good info.  Between all of us, we try to get it all posted.  Getting to the point that there does not appear to be much to report and that is getting maddening.

Where is Haleigh!!!! ::MonkeyAngel::

All of you are great! I agree Where is Haleigh!!!!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 08:25:05 PM

you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.

What abduction?? I just got home from work... Details.. ::MonkeyTongue::

A four year old girl in Orlando, attempted abduction (I heard early this morning.. might be same diff as last night) .. thwarted when she screammmmmmmmmmed!!   ::MonkeyDance::  dude ran off.

And JVM wondering why Haleigh reportedly didn't scream. 
 

Wykes..
 I am just wondering beings neighbors and bus driver reported that Fibsty picked up Haleigh in her van even though she didnt have a license @ the bus stop.. Maybe something happen to Haleigh on her travels that day or evening.... What scares me is the trail to the water.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 08:26:31 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.
Like I said, this is coming from a local, and have no idea if this is true, not surprising. She probably should have seen this coming, but because she is so young, and in love  ::MonkeyRoll:: she probably didn't.

I have to ask this question.. we have all been 17 and in Love.. But, he beat up on her before she took off to party.. that's once.
If he beat up on her last night, then that's twice..  Third time is a charm....  love at 17 is it really love or just plain stupid, if he is abusing her..   She needs to get over this love real fast and go home to her momma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 08:29:34 PM
Thanks Gmonkey but could you go a little further down starting with "Santos says that Cummings was stunned "   If it's true it says a lot .
 Sorry to be a pain ,Thanks


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 08:31:45 PM
Can someone paste that part from AH where Santos says ron told him an his mom "well , Haleigh was missing "   ? sorry I dont know how . If its true ,it's very odd .
Very odd  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 08:36:11 PM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/19461276_320X180.jpg)(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/Image5-1.jpg)

Okay, what do you guys think???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 14, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.
Like I said, this is coming from a local, and have no idea if this is true, not surprising. She probably should have seen this coming, but because she is so young, and in love  ::MonkeyRoll:: she probably didn't.

I have to ask this question.. we have all been 17 and in Love.. But, he beat up on her before she took off to party.. that's once.
If he beat up on her last night, then that's twice..  Third time is a charm....  love at 17 is it really love or just plain stupid, if he is abusing her..   She needs to get over this love real fast and go home to her momma.
I agree with you, but Misty is not a stranger to abuse, and really very sad that maybe this is normal to her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 08:37:42 PM
Thanks Gmonkey but could you go a little further down starting with "Santos says that Cummings was stunned "   If it's true it says a lot .
 Sorry to be a pain ,Thanks

Santos says that Cummings was stunned, and on his way out, got hit again between the eyes with an impromptu question from his outspoken mother. “So what did Misty do with your child?” He didn’t respond, but Santos did take a moment to ask Cummings why he was driving so fast the day at the bus stop, when he almost hit his daughter.

“Haleigh was missing,” he says Ronald responded, implying he was distraught.

“No, Ronald, that was Haleigh’s last day at school. She didn’t go missing until the next day,” said Santos. Then he said it must have been because Haleigh had spilled something on her shirt and he was running late for school (even though the bus had yet to leave from the corner where Haleigh often caught it).


A call to Ronald Cummings lawyer, Greg Kimball, for comment was not returned by deadline, though Cummings did speak out in a video on the lawyer’s website findhaleigh.com, thanking volunteers and asking people to keep looking for his daughter.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 08:38:30 PM
Marie and Crystal will be live Sunday on Geraldo's show. Been over yonder, this is from a local, so I guess a person can believe it or not, since I think Ron is a violent human being, it's not much of a stretch for me to believe it. This is from Pirate, on WS.  Apparently there was a scene outside the house last night- Ron and Misty were fighting- lots of yelling- Ron shoved Misty into the side of the house and pushed her to the ground.
It started and ended quickly and LE was not called.  So who knows?

If that's true, according to Nay Nay and WBG, she should have seen it coming.
Like I said, this is coming from a local, and have no idea if this is true, not surprising. She probably should have seen this coming, but because she is so young, and in love  ::MonkeyRoll:: she probably didn't.

I have to ask this question.. we have all been 17 and in Love.. But, he beat up on her before she took off to party.. that's once.
If he beat up on her last night, then that's twice..  Third time is a charm....  love at 17 is it really love or just plain stupid, if he is abusing her..   She needs to get over this love real fast and go home to her momma.
I agree with you, but Misty is not a stranger to abuse, and really very sad that maybe this is normal to her.

That is exactly what is bothering me the most. The thought that she would be so used to it that it didn't register to her that it was abuse if it truly happened that is.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 08:39:46 PM
mlee ~ Don't want to stack the photos, but the one being a composite, hard to say.  It could very well be off a bit....and maybe it could be Orlando.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 08:41:52 PM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/19461276_320X180.jpg)(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/Image5-1.jpg)

Okay, what do you guys think???

 Can't really say mlee . chubby faced black man with a thin mustache Is about the only thing I see . Thats the bad thing about composites


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 08:43:21 PM
Thanks Gmonkey


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 08:44:38 PM
After reviewing the pics- I say it isnt Orlando... The one pic above Orlando looks as thought he is part mexican.. JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 08:47:45 PM

you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.

What abduction?? I just got home from work... Details.. ::MonkeyTongue::

A four year old girl in Orlando, attempted abduction (I heard early this morning.. might be same diff as last night) .. thwarted when she screammmmmmmmmmed!!   ::MonkeyDance::  dude ran off.

And JVM wondering why Haleigh reportedly didn't scream. 
 

Wykes..
 I am just wondering beings neighbors and bus driver reported that Fibsty picked up Haleigh in her van even though she didnt have a license @ the bus stop.. Maybe something happen to Haleigh on her travels that day or evening.... What scares me is the trail to the water.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Sure could be, JG!  I know what others have claimed about who picked Haleigh up that day from the bus stop, yet I tend to believe the neighbors.  They are parents of Haleigh's schoolmates, they came forward on their own, they aren't family with a stake in this case, doubt they'd have a reason to lie about that, not one but several of em reporting that Misty picked those kids up.  "those kids" being Haleigh's school-age cousins that Misty also drove to the bus stop and picked up and took home on other days, reported by same folks. 

I hadn't heard yet that the bus driver has spoken in public, or what s/he saw has been reported.  Do you remember where you read/heard that?  Been waiting on info from that bus driver as well as from the air condition man. 

But yes, something sure could have happened while Haleigh was traveling about that day, maybe later in the day, early eve.  Could even have been while walking. 

I hear ya on that route the dogs took.  Still am thinking that the dogs *could have* picked up Haleigh's scent from an earlier walk, even days earlier.  The way that route winds around and crosses itself.  Misty has said she has taken the kids for walks to her brother's home, it was in the police report.  And she walked them up to the bus stop at times, to her brother's, then back home.  The dogs route shows going roundabout just like that.  The bus stop is near the RR tracks that the dogs stopped at, on one end.  Betcha gators are in the water at the other end, but locals have said that the gators were in hibernation in Feb.  Still and all, there's the boat that one local said they heard taking off in a fast hurry.  Sigh.  Sooooooo many possibilities!! 

Would love to know more about the 'abandoned house' that LE took Crystal to one day, and why.  Crystal didn't live in that area.  Why wasn't Ron/Misty taken there instead?   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Think we'll ever get the answers to all our questions? 
 


 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 08:51:45 PM

you need to pull up HLN, they had an attempted abduction last night about 75 miles away.. if you take a wig and put it on that buddy of ron's, they look identical.

What abduction?? I just got home from work... Details.. ::MonkeyTongue::

A four year old girl in Orlando, attempted abduction (I heard early this morning.. might be same diff as last night) .. thwarted when she screammmmmmmmmmed!!   ::MonkeyDance::  dude ran off.

And JVM wondering why Haleigh reportedly didn't scream. 
 

Wykes..
 I am just wondering beings neighbors and bus driver reported that Fibsty picked up Haleigh in her van even though she didnt have a license @ the bus stop.. Maybe something happen to Haleigh on her travels that day or evening.... What scares me is the trail to the water.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Sure could be, JG!  I know what others have claimed about who picked Haleigh up that day from the bus stop, yet I tend to believe the neighbors.  They are parents of Haleigh's schoolmates, they came forward on their own, they aren't family with a stake in this case, doubt they'd have a reason to lie about that, not one but several of em reporting that Misty picked those kids up.  "those kids" being Haleigh's school-age cousins that Misty also drove to the bus stop and picked up and took home on other days, reported by same folks. 

I hadn't heard yet that the bus driver has spoken in public, or what s/he saw has been reported.  Do you remember where you read/heard that?  Been waiting on info from that bus driver as well as from the air condition man. 

But yes, something sure could have happened while Haleigh was traveling about that day, maybe later in the day, early eve.  Could even have been while walking. 

I hear ya on that route the dogs took.  Still am thinking that the dogs *could have* picked up Haleigh's scent from an earlier walk, even days earlier.  The way that route winds around and crosses itself.  Misty has said she has taken the kids for walks to her brother's home, it was in the police report.  And she walked them up to the bus stop at times, to her brother's, then back home.  The dogs route shows going roundabout just like that.  The bus stop is near the RR tracks that the dogs stopped at, on one end.  Betcha gators are in the water at the other end, but locals have said that the gators were in hibernation in Feb.  Still and all, there's the boat that one local said they heard taking off in a fast hurry.  Sigh.  Sooooooo many possibilities!! 

Would love to know more about the 'abandoned house' that LE took Crystal to one day, and why.  Crystal didn't live in that area.  Why wasn't Ron/Misty taken there instead?   ::MonkeyConfused:: 

Think we'll ever get the answers to all our questions? 
 


 

Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 08:55:05 PM

Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ahhhhh ok!!  Thanks JG!   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 08:56:52 PM
Hi Wykes its on one of these interviews... ::MonkeyTongue::

Snipped from JG.....
Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 14, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
Hello Monkeys..been lurking n reading but now I have a question..why doesnt Rons website work anymore?Did I miss something? I thought it was findhaleigh.com or has it changed?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 09:16:50 PM

Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ahhhhh ok!!  Thanks JG!   ::MonkeyWink::


Oh Wyks, I sure hope LE can finally get to the bottom of this and get all of those loopholes sealed once and for all.  Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for them, as they are the professionals along with the FBI, and they are running at 50% on this. 

I took a look for the arse kicking boots he other evening.  I am sure we would be able to supply all the monkeys with a pair and then off to Satsuma we would go. 

Headlines ~  Monkeys Invade Satsuma ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 14, 2009, 09:17:45 PM
Hello Monkeys..been lurking n reading but now I have a question..why doesnt Rons website work anymore?Did I miss something? I thought it was findhaleigh.com or has it changed?
Here you go lady
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 09:22:39 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 14, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
Hello Monkeys..been lurking n reading but now I have a question..why doesnt Rons website work anymore?Did I miss something? I thought it was findhaleigh.com or has it changed?
Here you go lady
http://www.findhaleighnow.com/
thank you so much...I wanted to see the video you all were talking about..Thanks gain


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 09:47:21 PM
One of the many things that stick out and bother me to no end is that up until now Ron hasn't willingly spoken to the public asking for people to help find his Daughter for quite some time. I give him a smidgen of credit though because he did do this appearance on his lawyers website. Problem is...How many people are actually going to even look at that website?
I think what really threw me was back when he was vocally expressing that he didn't like the media being around. I would think that as a parent if my child were missing I would beg and plead for the media coverage in hopes that it would lead to my child being found and returned.
I can't get past that and several other issues such as, just as others have mentioned,...He actually married Misty and the biggest problem I have with that fact is the reasoning as to why they did it. I don't believe for one second that their getting married was something that Haleigh had wanted.
I just don't believe that.

I don't believe that either, about Haleigh wanting the marriage, I also don't believe one word out of his mouth, I just don't trust him. And you are right, how many people are going to go on his lawyer's website and see that video, not many I would guess.

none of it is going to do him any good.. this whole thing is set up for sympathy.. Trying to make him look like that poor innocent boy who is so misunderstood..  Trust me, those tear may have been water sprayed on his face.. And of course they would have him dressed up clean cut, and his hair actually combed.  Same for court.. Appearance..  He can be the scrudest looking person in the world on the day he commits a criminal act.. But, when they get to court.. they clean up and shine.. This is all for the public.  If you really by the act.. I have a wooden bridge to sell.. any takers?

I'll take that wooden bridge....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
One of the many things that stick out and bother me to no end is that up until now Ron hasn't willingly spoken to the public asking for people to help find his Daughter for quite some time. I give him a smidgen of credit though because he did do this appearance on his lawyers website. Problem is...How many people are actually going to even look at that website?
I think what really threw me was back when he was vocally expressing that he didn't like the media being around. I would think that as a parent if my child were missing I would beg and plead for the media coverage in hopes that it would lead to my child being found and returned.
I can't get past that and several other issues such as, just as others have mentioned,...He actually married Misty and the biggest problem I have with that fact is the reasoning as to why they did it. I don't believe for one second that their getting married was something that Haleigh had wanted.
I just don't believe that.

I don't believe that either, about Haleigh wanting the marriage, I also don't believe one word out of his mouth, I just don't trust him. And you are right, how many people are going to go on his lawyer's website and see that video, not many I would guess.

none of it is going to do him any good.. this whole thing is set up for sympathy.. Trying to make him look like that poor innocent boy who is so misunderstood..  Trust me, those tear may have been water sprayed on his face.. And of course they would have him dressed up clean cut, and his hair actually combed.  Same for court.. Appearance..  He can be the scrudest looking person in the world on the day he commits a criminal act.. But, when they get to court.. they clean up and shine.. This is all for the public.  If you really by the act.. I have a wooden bridge to sell.. any takers?

I'll take that wooden bridge....

Got one hook line and sinker...  Cookie.. I was fishing..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 09:54:34 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....

There is nothing wrong with being a Mama's boy in my opinion. I have heard my 40 yr old son tell people he is a Mama's boy. Nothing wrong with that. Honoring thy father and mother is the first promised blessing in the Bible.

His having an attorney is no different than Crystal having one and she got hers first.

If I was a Cummings I would not get on the news because people are using every little thing to tear them apart and make them look bad no matter what they say or do. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 09:59:21 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 10:01:47 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....

There is nothing wrong with being a Mama's boy in my opinion. I have heard my 40 yr old son tell people he is a Mama's boy. Nothing wrong with that. Honoring thy father and mother is the first promised blessing in the Bible.

His having an attorney is no different than Crystal having one and she got hers first.

If I was a Cummings I would not get on the news because people are using every little thing to tear them apart and make them look bad no matter what they say or do. JMO

agreed!
If Ron isn't speaking to the media, he is hiding something...if he does, then he is fake crying on and on...he can't win for nothing,....no matter what he does..
I personally think that he was sincere in his recording...
when was the last time that we heard from Crystal's side of the family? I think that all of them are remaining low key...By the way, any air time that Crystal has had recently has been to bash Ron and not much about Haleigh...A waste of air time if they aren't going to talk about Haleigh...I don't want to hear about their personal arguments and differences...I only want to hear news/facts about Haleigh...jmo...I am on Haleigh's side...I couldn't give a fig about either of her parents, but they are HER parents and SHE  is still THEIR missing child...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 10:04:07 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....

There is nothing wrong with being a Mama's boy in my opinion. I have heard my 40 yr old son tell people he is a Mama's boy. Nothing wrong with that. Honoring thy father and mother is the first promised blessing in the Bible.

His having an attorney is no different than Crystal having one and she got hers first.

If I was a Cummings I would not get on the news because people are using every little thing to tear them apart and make them look bad no matter what they say or do. JMO


You know Idgi...  I can by sympathetic especially when there is a missing child involved.

But darn it, I just wish that they would get the facts straight, and get it all out in the open.  This hiding someting, or whatever is taking place is not putting a good picture out for himself and his family. 

 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 10:04:59 PM
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-Family-Rumors-Person-Was-Inside-Home-Are/retraOmmEkGCL_R0FwZ4DA.cspx

Sykes says she was at the Cummings household within 15 minutes of the abduction. She says she also took Ronald Jr. to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office where he was interviewed by detectives.

“I carried him for the child psychologist to interview him…he spent quite a lot of time with two or three different ones. They said his story changed. Each time you ask him something, you know, you ask it a different way and he’d change his story,” said Sykes.

The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office confirms Ronald Jr. was questioned, but would not elaborate on his answers or the questions asked. They did say they have followed up on every lead that originated from that interview


she said that she was there within 15 minutes of the abduction? We don't know for sure what time it even took place do we ? she sure did get there fast....if Ron was the first person that Misty called and he was driving up at the time and told her you call 911 and I will tear up the house then who called gr gma and when? it sounds like she got the before LE....wonder why Misty called on Ronalds phone ? instead of hers? the dispatcher said that she would stay on the line until they got there so .....wonder how sykes found out about Haleigh? Wonder why she was the one that took Ronald down to the LE office? Teresa was there according to police reports? wonder why she didn't take him? I could not hear a peep of him during the 911 call , with all of the yelling etc you think he would have woke up and been crying?.... ::MonkeyConfused::

This does put questions out... 
How does she know what time the abduction occurred?
Thats a very good question about the phone, why did she use his phone.
When did she take little ron to the LE, not that night she didn't.
She is also the one that called Marie,
none of them called Crystal.
There was nothing out of him on that 911 tape, if he were awake he should be screaming with fear..

See, all of their stories leave empty places.. Like they tried to get the story together, but no body can follow their lines.
ron's is simple..  I was at work.. 

But, there is tid bits out there, that he wasn't..  rumors??? eye witness???

Where are those witnesses? Why does the LE not know about them? Why only Pirate?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 10:09:40 PM
Hi Wykes its on one of these interviews... ::MonkeyTongue::

Snipped from JG.....
Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett

Thanks JG!   ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 10:12:37 PM

Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ahhhhh ok!!  Thanks JG!   ::MonkeyWink::


Oh Wyks, I sure hope LE can finally get to the bottom of this and get all of those loopholes sealed once and for all.  Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for them, as they are the professionals along with the FBI, and they are running at 50% on this. 

I took a look for the arse kicking boots he other evening.  I am sure we would be able to supply all the monkeys with a pair and then off to Satsuma we would go. 

Headlines ~  Monkeys Invade Satsuma ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh::



oh yeah!  it's got to be frustrating for them! 

well, when a whole group of monkeys have landed in Satsuma, wearing pointy-toed boots, they'll know we have arrived!   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 10:13:08 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 10:15:46 PM
LE has interview family members, friends, neighbors, teachers, bus driver, Ron and Fisbty 10 times.. They are putting the pieces together and we don't know what they know and they are not going to release it until to they have all the pieces... ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 10:16:55 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

I can think of a couple of things.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 10:18:10 PM

Hi Wykes.. I listen to an interview with Simon and cobra and Cobra stated that he talked to the bus driver and Fibsty was their to pick up Haleigh in her van with jr and a cousin who they believe was Austin... ::MonkeyTongue::

Ahhhhh ok!!  Thanks JG!   ::MonkeyWink::


Oh Wyks, I sure hope LE can finally get to the bottom of this and get all of those loopholes sealed once and for all.  Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for them, as they are the professionals along with the FBI, and they are running at 50% on this. 

I took a look for the arse kicking boots he other evening.  I am sure we would be able to supply all the monkeys with a pair and then off to Satsuma we would go. 

Headlines ~  Monkeys Invade Satsuma ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyLaugh::



oh yeah!  it's got to be frustrating for them! 

well, when a whole group of monkeys have landed in Satsuma, wearing pointy-toed boots, they'll know we have arrived!   ::MonkeyTongue::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



I will wear my spur boots... ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 10:27:17 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....

There is nothing wrong with being a Mama's boy in my opinion. I have heard my 40 yr old son tell people he is a Mama's boy. Nothing wrong with that. Honoring thy father and mother is the first promised blessing in the Bible.

His having an attorney is no different than Crystal having one and she got hers first.

If I was a Cummings I would not get on the news because people are using every little thing to tear them apart and make them look bad no matter what they say or do. JMO

Just as you are giving your opinion, Idgie, little lulu was doing the same.  I like that we monkeys can discuss various opinions and thoughts, etc. and even agree to disagree at times. 

And am thinking that any player in this case, no matter which family s/he is in, would do well at this point to talk only with LE and attorney if they have one, hush with the media etc, and live their life so as not to bring undue attention onto them.  They aren't going to please everyone, no matter who they are or who is watching. 

IMO



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 10:27:19 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

I can think of a couple of things.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I am a monkey who is all ears.. what couple of things?????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 10:35:24 PM
Thanks Gmonkey


nanners.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

I can think of a couple of things.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I am a monkey who is all ears.. what couple of things?????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 10:41:18 PM
Thanks Gmonkey


nanners.... ::MonkeyTongue::
Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

I can think of a couple of things.... ::MonkeyTongue::

I am a monkey who is all ears.. what couple of things?????

1. Orlando might not of appreciated Ron's comment about WBG
2. I did not see any pics of Orlando @ Ron's wedding
3. Ron from what I have read knew Orlando for awhile .. Why didn't he have Orlando as his best man or sign the marriage witness paperwork

There had to be some sort of argument....JMO... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 10:44:10 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....

There is nothing wrong with being a Mama's boy in my opinion. I have heard my 40 yr old son tell people he is a Mama's boy. Nothing wrong with that. Honoring thy father and mother is the first promised blessing in the Bible.

His having an attorney is no different than Crystal having one and she got hers first.

If I was a Cummings I would not get on the news because people are using every little thing to tear them apart and make them look bad no matter what they say or do. JMO

agreed!
If Ron isn't speaking to the media, he is hiding something...if he does, then he is fake crying on and on...he can't win for nothing,....no matter what he does..
I personally think that he was sincere in his recording...
when was the last time that we heard from Crystal's side of the family? I think that all of them are remaining low key...By the way, any air time that Crystal has had recently has been to bash Ron and not much about Haleigh...A waste of air time if they aren't going to talk about Haleigh...I don't want to hear about their personal arguments and differences...I only want to hear news/facts about Haleigh...jmo...I am on Haleigh's side...I couldn't give a fig about either of her parents, but they are HER parents and SHE  is still THEIR missing child...

I understand what you are saying, Cookie.  I believe that no matter what our own opinions and theories are in this case, there is the bottom underlying main thing that we all do share, we are all on Haleigh's side. 

And yes, it would be nice to hear just the facts ma'am.  In this case tho, Haleigh is a child.  She was reported as last being in Misty's care.  Am not sure if it's possible to discuss a case where a young child has gone missing, without also discussing the folks involved in that child's life at the time.  Had those folks all been questioned by LE and ruled out as suspects (as happens in some cases of missing children), then am thinking we would not be looking so closely at them now.  Haleigh did not just up and walk off into the sunset to begin a new life elsewhere, ya know?  Someone is responsible.  It's only natural to look closely at those involved in her life at the time.  That's what we are doing in here.  And yeah, it edges past Haleigh herself at times, and puts the focus onto other people until things can be figured out.  Only so many facts about Haleigh herself that we can look at. 
 
In a perfect world.... eh? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 14, 2009, 10:44:12 PM
#492  Art Harris Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 10:27 am

Llisa–When I was at the Croslin’s, they were adamant Joe had access to the van keys on the kitchen counter at the home of Misty’s sister. They pointed out the drainage ditch where he allegedly hid the gun he took from Ronald, said he was in town at the time, slept in his clothes that night and took off shortly after Haleigh disappeared. Not sure what part of that didn’t check out, but he’s not under the microscope…
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/05/haleigh-cummings-daddys-girl-got-attitude/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 14, 2009, 10:54:33 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

Good point, Grama.  Orlando was following Ron about like a shadow, always when we saw Ron, there was Orlando over his shoulder.  Orlando helped in the search as well.  Then *poof* he's gone.  And that is odd, given how very supportive of Ron he 'seemed' to have been.  Another one is Ron's pastor, to a lesser extent than Orlando, but still very vocal and supportive of Ron .. in the beginning. 

Up til about just prior to the wedding for both Orlando and the pastor, if I recall correctly.   

And that's very curious........   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Idgie on May 14, 2009, 10:59:34 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

Good point, Grama.  Orlando was following Ron about like a shadow, always when we saw Ron, there was Orlando over his shoulder.  Orlando helped in the search as well.  Then *poof* he's gone.  And that is odd, given how very supportive of Ron he 'seemed' to have been.  Another one is Ron's pastor, to a lesser extent than Orlando, but still very vocal and supportive of Ron .. in the beginning. 

Up til about just prior to the wedding for both Orlando and the pastor, if I recall correctly.   

And that's very curious........   


Does Orlando attend the same church as the Pastor?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 11:10:07 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

Good point, Grama.  Orlando was following Ron about like a shadow, always when we saw Ron, there was Orlando over his shoulder.  Orlando helped in the search as well.  Then *poof* he's gone.  And that is odd, given how very supportive of Ron he 'seemed' to have been.  Another one is Ron's pastor, to a lesser extent than Orlando, but still very vocal and supportive of Ron .. in the beginning. 

Up til about just prior to the wedding for both Orlando and the pastor, if I recall correctly.   

And that's very curious........   


Does Orlando attend the same church as the Pastor?


Not sure which church they attended.  But I was thinking it appeared that Orlando wated to be very very close to hear what Ron and Misty were talking about the whole time. That is my opinion.  If Ron would have stopped walking, Orlando would have been on his shoulders.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 11:12:38 PM
I dont know if this was posted before... ::MonkeyTongue::


The facts are sobering," Nancy Ritter wrote in an article "Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains: The Nation's Silent Mass Disaster" for the National Institute of Justice. "On any given day, there are as many as 100,000 active missing persons cases in the United States. Every year, tens of thousands of people vanish under suspicious circumstances. Viewed over a 20-year period, the number of missing persons can be estimated in the hundreds of thousands."

There are two locations area residents may attend the vigil:
 
Lake Mary City Hall, 100 N. Country Club Rd., Lake Mary, Fl. 32795 - Special Guests: Orlando guitarist Fernando Foncesca will perform and the Haliegh Cummings family is scheduled to address the audience
 
The Father’s House, 2301 South Street, Leesburg, Florida 34748 - Special guests: The Trenton Duckett family
 
The National Vigil for Hope is "driven by passion, concern, and hope in making a difference in the lives of those missing and the families still clinging to a dream of someday seeing their loved one again," Bart said. She pointed out that "this is not a fundraising event, but rather a public awareness effort to bring more attention to a growing epidemic that needs the support from all of us in order to eradicate it."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/community_altamonte_blog/



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 11:13:28 PM
snip from Wyks:I understand what you are saying, Cookie.  I believe that no matter what our own opinions and theories are in this case, there is the bottom underlying main thing that we all do share, we are all on Haleigh's side.

And yes, it would be nice to hear just the facts ma'am.  In this case tho, Haleigh is a child.  She was reported as last being in Misty's care.  Am not sure if it's possible to discuss a case where a young child has gone missing, without also discussing the folks involved in that child's life at the time.  Had those folks all been questioned by LE and ruled out as suspects (as happens in some cases of missing children), then am thinking we would not be looking so closely at them now.  Haleigh did not just up and walk off into the sunset to begin a new life elsewhere, ya know?  Someone is responsible.  It's only natural to look closely at those involved in her life at the time.  That's what we are doing in here.  And yeah, it edges past Haleigh herself at times, and puts the focus onto other people until things can be figured out.  Only so many facts about Haleigh herself that we can look at.
 
In a perfect world.... eh? 

by this I mean, when the parents are speaking to us or the media....I wish that they would only speak to or about Haleigh and not get into their personal attacks against each other....tell us about Haleigh or what you know is going on....talk to Haleigh when they have air time etc...
I understand that we have no real things to talk about and that most of what we do talk about in here is mostly rumors...I have no problem with that and partake in it myself..my issue is that I wish that things were more balanced ....it is hard to have a discussion at times if posters have their minds totally made up and are not willing to look at all the characters instead of focusing on just one of the parents....know what I mean? Neither of these parents have clean hands in all of this...Ron has his family around him and he is a mama's boy...Crystal's mom is hanging around her every moment (?) and she is being supportive...
I have to say that if my  son was going through this, I would be right by his side as well..if that makes me an enabler then so be it...but a male child needs love and support during tough times the same as a girl child...jmo...as the mother of 2 sons...

I along with everyone wishes that there would be an arrest..then the sunshine law would kick in and then we can really have some things to examine....sigh....it has been way too long...Haleigh...where are you little one?...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 14, 2009, 11:13:52 PM
Thanks Gmonkey

Your welcome alagary.   :salut: :salut:

Grama, now you realize if that if they were the same man.. what that would mean.. don't you??  Haleigh knew this man, friend of Daddy's.. always hanging around... she wouldn't be afraid of him..  This other little girl was 4, just a year younger then Haleigh.  This one would know all about the house, and short elevator having been gone all weekend.. Who's to say he doesn't have his own key to the house...

Yes, and also the fact that Orlando seemed to disappear shortly after Haleigh was missing.  He was right on Ron 's tail during the TV interviews then poof.....gone.  Anyone know what the argument was about that put Ron and Orlando at odds?

Good point, Grama.  Orlando was following Ron about like a shadow, always when we saw Ron, there was Orlando over his shoulder.  Orlando helped in the search as well.  Then *poof* he's gone.  And that is odd, given how very supportive of Ron he 'seemed' to have been.  Another one is Ron's pastor, to a lesser extent than Orlando, but still very vocal and supportive of Ron .. in the beginning. 

Up til about just prior to the wedding for both Orlando and the pastor, if I recall correctly.   

And that's very curious........   


Does Orlando attend the same church as the Pastor?

I don't believe they do, but we know the Pastor wasn't too happy about the marriage.. might well be the same thing for Orlando.
I don't know.. I saw that composite on tv, and the first person I thought of was orlando..  others don't see what I did or thought I did.. But.. if it were.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 11:14:46 PM
Jerseygirl345 ~  Can you elaborate regarding Ron's comment about WBG, and how/why would Orlando have taken offense. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 11:16:25 PM
Jerseygirl345 ~  Can you elaborate regarding Ron's comment about WBG, and how/why would Orlando have taken offense. 

Listen to the video. with cobra.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 11:19:43 PM
I still believe the reason Ron and Misty married was because TN and Granny told him to,  Ron is a Mama's/ Grandma boy and they didn't like all the negative media attention about him living with a 'child' (Misty)  and possibly facing child rape . Why else would they give up the family jewel...(Granny's ring)  most likely the only thing of monetary value between them.  He looked furious leaving the court house....she was elated.  He was not happy at all.
I think he was covering himself...
I do wish they would talk to the media...beg/plead and cry for the return of Haleigh instead of hiding behind lawyers.  It there is nothing to hide....then why hide...
Just my opinion....

There is nothing wrong with being a Mama's boy in my opinion. I have heard my 40 yr old son tell people he is a Mama's boy. Nothing wrong with that. Honoring thy father and mother is the first promised blessing in the Bible.

His having an attorney is no different than Crystal having one and she got hers first.

If I was a Cummings I would not get on the news because people are using every little thing to tear them apart and make them look bad no matter what they say or do. JMO

agreed!
If Ron isn't speaking to the media, he is hiding something...if he does, then he is fake crying on and on...he can't win for nothing,....no matter what he does..
I personally think that he was sincere in his recording...
when was the last time that we heard from Crystal's side of the family? I think that all of them are remaining low key...By the way, any air time that Crystal has had recently has been to bash Ron and not much about Haleigh...A waste of air time if they aren't going to talk about Haleigh...I don't want to hear about their personal arguments and differences...I only want to hear news/facts about Haleigh...jmo...I am on Haleigh's side...I couldn't give a fig about either of her parents, but they are HER parents and SHE  is still THEIR missing child...
This is true and I am also on Haleigh's side. I just keep putting myself in their shoes and if I really were in their position I could give a rats patootie what anyone thought of me. It wouldn't be about me. It would be 100% about finding my child. JMO
This case has so many people soooo frustrated all the way around and it's understandable because Haleigh is still missing, we aren't getting very much information, (which is no doubt a good thing, all things considered) and bottom line we all want Haleigh found alive and returned to her family.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 11:22:17 PM
Hey...welcome Patricia!

Yep, bottom line is that ALL of us monkeys want the same thing in that we want Haleigh found...one more hour is way too long for this little girl to be away from people that she loves and people who love her....xxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 14, 2009, 11:23:04 PM
Cookie ~ I am going to respond to your post about mom/son.  I also have a grown son.  Yes, as everyone else I would support my son during difficult times.

However, I see where Gr Neves and Ron are telling two complete different stories about incidents that took place prior and after Haleigh went missing.  Yes, we support our children, but appears that there maybe some type of covering that in my opinion is not what a mom is supposed to do.  Yes, your protect your son but you do not cover for his lies, nor do you tell lies to cover for him.

I know some are going to ask specifically what am I referring to.
Who picked Haleigh up at the bus stop.  Neves said she did...Ron said he did.

Neves said there was an altercation over an argument with Joe about a gun... Ron says NO!!!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 11:23:31 PM
Hey...welcome Patricia!

Yep, bottom line is that ALL of us monkeys want the same thing in that we want Haleigh found...one more hour is way too long for this little girl to be away from people that she loves and people who love her....xxxx

Hi Cookie :)

And...AMEN!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 11:24:33 PM
Hey...welcome Patricia!

Yep, bottom line is that ALL of us monkeys want the same thing in that we want Haleigh found...one more hour is way too long for this little girl to be away from people that she loves and people who love her....xxxx

I hope to someone is arrested soon and the sunshine law kicks in... ::MonkeyTongue::

Prayers for Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 11:26:43 PM
Hey...welcome Patricia!

Yep, bottom line is that ALL of us monkeys want the same thing in that we want Haleigh found...one more hour is way too long for this little girl to be away from people that she loves and people who love her....xxxx

I hope to someone is arrested soon and the sunshine law kicks in... ::MonkeyTongue::

Prayers for Haleigh...
Exactly JG. It would be great to find out the answers to so many questions and that's a darn fact.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 11:29:54 PM
Grams....I don't think that a mom should lie for her son, nor a mother should lie for her daughter...especially when a child is missing...

I don't know what to think about the bus stop deal...We do know that someone met Haleigh at the bus that day cause she was seen at the home, by a neighbor...I am not really sure how important who did or did not meet Haleigh at the bus stop is...but I see no reason to lie about something like that....if it is indeed lying..

Misty is the key...I still believe that with everything in me...Why he married her is beyond me...and why his mom and grand mother are so fond of her is beyond me as well...I think that as a grand ma, no matter how much I might like her, she was the last one to be with my missing grand daughter and I really think I would have a bunch of questions and some bitterness there...why they don't is beyond me as well...
grrrrrrrrrr....Tell the truth everyone related to Haleigh!



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 14, 2009, 11:40:43 PM
Good Night Sweet Monkeys... ::MonkeyCool::





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 14, 2009, 11:41:40 PM
nite Monkey friends...

talk to you all tomorrow and hopefully...another miracle will happen over night and Haleigh will be found....

xxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 14, 2009, 11:43:10 PM
Goodnight to those who are leaving. I'm still reading old posts. (Looking for the ones I wanted to comment on but couldn't yet lol)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 14, 2009, 11:45:50 PM
Good night cookie, and any other monkeys headed for the bunky.

Patricia ~  I missed you when you came in.  Hello and welcome to Scared Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
Good night cookie, and any other monkeys headed for the bunky.

Patricia ~  I missed you when you came in.  Hello and welcome to Scared Monkeys.  ::MonkeyDance::
Hi MuffyBee. It's good to be here. I'm still reading through old posts. Whew lots to sift through that's for sure. I might be up for a while lol!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 12:10:05 AM
snip from Wyks:I understand what you are saying, Cookie.  I believe that no matter what our own opinions and theories are in this case, there is the bottom underlying main thing that we all do share, we are all on Haleigh's side.

And yes, it would be nice to hear just the facts ma'am.  In this case tho, Haleigh is a child.  She was reported as last being in Misty's care.  Am not sure if it's possible to discuss a case where a young child has gone missing, without also discussing the folks involved in that child's life at the time.  Had those folks all been questioned by LE and ruled out as suspects (as happens in some cases of missing children), then am thinking we would not be looking so closely at them now.  Haleigh did not just up and walk off into the sunset to begin a new life elsewhere, ya know?  Someone is responsible.  It's only natural to look closely at those involved in her life at the time.  That's what we are doing in here.  And yeah, it edges past Haleigh herself at times, and puts the focus onto other people until things can be figured out.  Only so many facts about Haleigh herself that we can look at.
 
In a perfect world.... eh? 

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by this I mean, when the parents are speaking to us or the media....I wish that they would only speak to or about Haleigh and not get into their personal attacks against each other....tell us about Haleigh or what you know is going on....talk to Haleigh when they have air time etc...
I understand that we have no real things to talk about and that most of what we do talk about in here is mostly rumors...I have no problem with that and partake in it myself..my issue is that I wish that things were more balanced ....it is hard to have a discussion at times if posters have their minds totally made up and are not willing to look at all the characters instead of focusing on just one of the parents....know what I mean? Neither of these parents have clean hands in all of this...Ron has his family around him and he is a mama's boy...Crystal's mom is hanging around her every moment (?) and she is being supportive...
I have to say that if my  son was going through this, I would be right by his side as well..if that makes me an enabler then so be it...but a male child needs love and support during tough times the same as a girl child...jmo...as the mother of 2 sons...

I along with everyone wishes that there would be an arrest..then the sunshine law would kick in and then we can really have some things to examine....sigh....it has been way too long...Haleigh...where are you little one?...



Hey Cookie, been meaning to ask you hun.. why don't you use the quote button anymore?  I can figure it out, but for new monkeys might make it kind of hard to follow where what you're quoting leaves off and what you are posting begins.  I put a little line there to help seperate it out.  Am just curious is why I'm asking.  Ok .. am nosy.   ::MonkeyTongue:: 

Yeppers, I know what you mean, and thanks for explaining more fully what you were saying.  I wish this thread could be more balanced in opinions too, seems to run more smoothly when a case is clear cut, this is what was done, and this is who did it.  But cases like this, it's mind-boggling, the possibilities!  (http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/Wyks_/Smilies/smiley-gahh.gif)

It's why from the start of this case I've been an 'equal opportunity theorist'.  LOL  Remember that?  I have a theory for each player in this case. (except for that neighbor dog who didn't even bark.. lol with Searching!)  We just don't have all the facts yet, so I dunno how anyone can take a final stance of being for/against any side at all.  It's easier for me to think in terms of 'that's a possibility' when I hear discussions on any side.  And know in my heart that the only final stance I can take at the moment is for Haleigh. 
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 12:58:42 AM
I don't know what to think about the bus stop thing either.  Or any of the other things that have been said by one of them but differently by another.  Little things that seem at first to be insignificant, and only take on importance and stretched all out of proportion because of the inconsistent statements made about them.  Makes me sit up and pay attention then.

The bus stop, am thinking it would have been such an easy thing to remember who picked Haleigh up that day.  Made into a HUGE thing, just because of the inconsistent statements about it.  Makes me wonder if there's something about it that we just don't get yet. 

Same with what Haleigh was wearing when last seen, for example.  Who actually came by that afternoon/early evening.  Where were the children sleeping that night.  Simple easy answers one would think, but inconsistent statements instead.     


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 15, 2009, 01:53:55 AM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
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Okay, what do you guys think???

Wow Mlee, it looks like the same guy to me.  If the one is a sketch and it appears to be, somebody would have discribed the facial features to the artist and the features on these two photos have a lot of similarities.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 06:31:15 AM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
Okay, what do you guys think???

Wow Mlee, it looks like the same guy to me.  If the one is a sketch and it appears to be, somebody would have discribed the facial features to the artist and the features on these two photos have a lot of similarities.


The guy in the sketch broke into a home the night before, he attempted to abduct a little 4 year old girl, and when she began to scream.. it woke the family up and the man was chased down the street.  This occurred in Orange County, some 75 miles south of Satsuma.

Now the guy in the photo, was or is ron cummings best friend an buddy Orlando.
You and I are about the only one's who see the same similarities.  I saw that sketch come on tv and Orlando hit my mind, and I had to search out his photo.  If they were or are the same person..  We have to remember that he had absolute access to Haleigh.  In fact it looks like he and ron use to be room mates.  Haleigh was raised with Orlando being around, she would never have been frightened of him.  Which brings to mind, if Junior woke and thought he was looking at Orlando that night, he wouldn't have been frightened.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 15, 2009, 07:25:23 AM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
Okay, what do you guys think???

Wow Mlee, it looks like the same guy to me.  If the one is a sketch and it appears to be, somebody would have discribed the facial features to the artist and the features on these two photos have a lot of similarities.


The guy in the sketch broke into a home the night before, he attempted to abduct a little 4 year old girl, and when she began to scream.. it woke the family up and the man was chased down the street.  This occurred in Orange County, some 75 miles south of Satsuma.

Now the guy in the photo, was or is ron cummings best friend an buddy Orlando.
You and I are about the only one's who see the same similarities.  I saw that sketch come on tv and Orlando hit my mind, and I had to search out his photo.  If they were or are the same person..  We have to remember that he had absolute access to Haleigh.  In fact it looks like he and ron use to be room mates.  Haleigh was raised with Orlando being around, she would never have been frightened of him.  Which brings to mind, if Junior woke and thought he was looking at Orlando that night, he wouldn't have been frightened.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


morning mlee,
If you remember, a while back, I was looking into this shadow man who stood behind ron in the beginning, and now he is gone. I also saw the sketch of man in orlando, and also thought of the rons shadow man looking similar. These guys do travel,, and only an hr or so to orlando form satsuma...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 07:29:36 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 07:36:16 AM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
Okay, what do you guys think???

Wow Mlee, it looks like the same guy to me.  If the one is a sketch and it appears to be, somebody would have discribed the facial features to the artist and the features on these two photos have a lot of similarities.


The guy in the sketch broke into a home the night before, he attempted to abduct a little 4 year old girl, and when she began to scream.. it woke the family up and the man was chased down the street.  This occurred in Orange County, some 75 miles south of Satsuma.

Now the guy in the photo, was or is ron cummings best friend an buddy Orlando.
You and I are about the only one's who see the same similarities.  I saw that sketch come on tv and Orlando hit my mind, and I had to search out his photo.  If they were or are the same person..  We have to remember that he had absolute access to Haleigh.  In fact it looks like he and ron use to be room mates.  Haleigh was raised with Orlando being around, she would never have been frightened of him.  Which brings to mind, if Junior woke and thought he was looking at Orlando that night, he wouldn't have been frightened.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


morning mlee,
If you remember, a while back, I was looking into this shadow man who stood behind ron in the beginning, and now he is gone. I also saw the sketch of man in orlando, and also thought of the rons shadow man looking similar. These guys do travel,, and only an hr or so to orlando form satsuma...

I saw the composite and first thing that hit my mind, was Orlando.. and I had to search out his photo and then compare them.
Learned last night that he and ron may well have roomed together, which means the kids are very well adjusted to Orlando, would never fear him.  I see it in his eyebrow on the right, his eyes, the puffy below his eyes, his cheeks, the nose, the mouth, a composite is from memory, that came from a visual that lasted maybe 20 to 30 seconds.  The man in that house was about 6 feet tall.  There was also a 13 year old in Jacksonville that got into a red car and went missing.. I haven't heard anything about her being found or who she was with, that's been over a month ago.  For what ever reason, Orlando hit my mind then and I had to search out this same photo to make sure of the color of the car.  We haven't really checked him out, we know very little about him, although Grama has talked about him several times, especially since he was suddenly not in the picture.  I don't know if Le checked him out or not..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 07:45:25 AM
A Very Good Morning to you Too Grama... Sleep well?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 15, 2009, 07:47:51 AM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
Okay, what do you guys think???

Wow Mlee, it looks like the same guy to me.  If the one is a sketch and it appears to be, somebody would have discribed the facial features to the artist and the features on these two photos have a lot of similarities.


The guy in the sketch broke into a home the night before, he attempted to abduct a little 4 year old girl, and when she began to scream.. it woke the family up and the man was chased down the street.  This occurred in Orange County, some 75 miles south of Satsuma.

Now the guy in the photo, was or is ron cummings best friend an buddy Orlando.
You and I are about the only one's who see the same similarities.  I saw that sketch come on tv and Orlando hit my mind, and I had to search out his photo.  If they were or are the same person..  We have to remember that he had absolute access to Haleigh.  In fact it looks like he and ron use to be room mates.  Haleigh was raised with Orlando being around, she would never have been frightened of him.  Which brings to mind, if Junior woke and thought he was looking at Orlando that night, he wouldn't have been frightened.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


morning mlee,
If you remember, a while back, I was looking into this shadow man who stood behind ron in the beginning, and now he is gone. I also saw the sketch of man in orlando, and also thought of the rons shadow man looking similar. These guys do travel,, and only an hr or so to orlando form satsuma...

I saw the composite and first thing that hit my mind, was Orlando.. and I had to search out his photo and then compare them.
Learned last night that he and ron may well have roomed together, which means the kids are very well adjusted to Orlando, would never fear him.  I see it in his eyebrow on the right, his eyes, the puffy below his eyes, his cheeks, the nose, the mouth, a composite is from memory, that came from a visual that lasted maybe 20 to 30 seconds.  The man in that house was about 6 feet tall.  There was also a 13 year old in Jacksonville that got into a red car and went missing.. I haven't heard anything about her being found or who she was with, that's been over a month ago.  For what ever reason, Orlando hit my mind then and I had to search out this same photo to make sure of the color of the car.  We haven't really checked him out, we know very little about him, although Grama has talked about him several times, especially since he was suddenly not in the picture.  I don't know if Le checked him out or not..

I remember the 13 yr old getting into the red car, and I have not heard anything since about that either. ANd I read the local news, which includes jacksonville.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Cookie ~ I am going to respond to your post about mom/son.  I also have a grown son.  Yes, as everyone else I would support my son during difficult times.

However, I see where Gr Neves and Ron are telling two complete different stories about incidents that took place prior and after Haleigh went missing.  Yes, we support our children, but appears that there maybe some type of covering that in my opinion is not what a mom is supposed to do.  Yes, your protect your son but you do not cover for his lies, nor do you tell lies to cover for him.

I know some are going to ask specifically what am I referring to.
Who picked Haleigh up at the bus stop.  Neves said she did...Ron said he did.

Neves said there was an altercation over an argument with Joe about a gun... Ron says NO!!!



Wasn't there are three tales on the story with the Gun.. Short elevator talked about ron and the gun, where ron was shooting it off or somthing, threatening people, and she took the gun and hide it in the ditch.  And we also have the story where ron hide the gun in the ditch, and then the story of Joe hiding the gun in the ditch..   Your right Grama, their stories don't match. And you have to really wonder why no one in the midst of these people can follow their lines.  We have to wonder, who put the gun in the ditch and why they put the gun in the ditch.. Is someone covering for someone else?  Or is someone throwing the limelight in another person's direction.  I have to be honest,  I see the same overup from ron's Mother as I see from Casey A. Mother. Both, want to protect their children.. but at the expense of what happened to their Grandchild.  When my Girls all reached 16, I made it very clear to all three.  I will not lie for you..  I will not cover any bad deeds.. and I will not bond you out of jail..  you come home doped up or drunk and I call the police. you bring drugs into my home, I call the police.  People may think that is harsh, but as a parent I had to set the ground rules.. The same rules my daughter is now using on her teen daughter.  ron's Mother did not set ground rules, and she cover's for him.  That is not parenting, that is enabling. When you enable you encourage.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 08:10:43 AM
Good Morning Grama, mlee, all Monkeys and Guests!
TGIF!!
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 08:14:26 AM
Wyks...I don't use the quote button in order to avoid stacks....We were told by a mod (?) a while back not to quote the whole article, but only what we were commenting on to avoid repeating/quoting the whole article, thus the huge stacks that we get at times...especially when pictures and diagrams are involved..thought I was doing the right thing...Actually it is easier just to hit the quote button than to cherry pick and copy what I am commenting on....xxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 08:21:56 AM
Wyks...I don't use the quote button in order to avoid stacks....We were told by a mod (?) a while back not to quote the whole article, but only what we were commenting on to avoid repeating/quoting the whole article, thus the huge stacks that we get at times...especially when pictures and diagrams are involved..thought I was doing the right thing...Actually it is easier just to hit the quote button than to cherry pick and copy what I am commenting on....xxxxx

Good Morning, Cookie!!!  I follow your post exactly!!!!  I have also been trying to eliminate the stacks, the same as you have been.  I know it is so much easier to follow when there is a quote, however, like you, trying to do what they asked.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 08:25:10 AM
A Very Good Morning to you Too Grama... Sleep well?

Good Morning as well, mlee.  Yes, slept very well, thank you.  It is waking up in the morning, checking the site for any NEW UPDATES, finding nothing new that really distubs me.  ::MonkeyConfused:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 08:28:01 AM
Good Morning Grama, mlee, all Monkeys and Guests!
TGIF!!
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Good Morning, Heart~  Ok, what do you have for us today.  You always spring something new on us....I am ready!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 08:37:51 AM
Good Morning Grama, mlee, all Monkeys and Guests!
TGIF!!
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Good Morning, Heart~  Ok, what do you have for us today.  You always spring something new on us....I am ready!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa::  Grama,  I got like 4 to 5 pages behind yesterday.  So playing ketchup this a.m.

Praying for good news on Haleigh today!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 08:40:30 AM
Wyks...I don't use the quote button in order to avoid stacks....We were told by a mod (?) a while back not to quote the whole article, but only what we were commenting on to avoid repeating/quoting the whole article, thus the huge stacks that we get at times...especially when pictures and diagrams are involved..thought I was doing the right thing...Actually it is easier just to hit the quote button than to cherry pick and copy what I am commenting on....xxxxx

Good Morning, Cookie!!!  I follow your post exactly!!!!  I have also been trying to eliminate the stacks, the same as you have been.  I know it is so much easier to follow when there is a quote, however, like you, trying to do what they asked.

thanks grammy! and a very very good morning to you and to all Monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: melisb on May 15, 2009, 09:02:50 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 09:12:06 AM
melisb  I went and looked at some of rainys post , now I have a headache from trying to decipher that mess ::MonkeyConfused:: But I did see one where she talks bad about misty


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 09:39:04 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::

Good Morning, I will go check that out. ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: melisb on May 15, 2009, 09:39:56 AM
melisb  I went and looked at some of rainys post , now I have a headache from trying to decipher that mess ::MonkeyConfused:: But I did see one where she talks bad about misty

I used the quote button and I'm computer stupid so if it doesn't come out right I apologize, half of the Rainy posts say that Haleigh needs her "mommy and daddy" referring to Ron and Misty not Crystal and Misty calls herself Mommy.   With statements like "Junior need to go to granny", about Amber, "she look old and not helthy because drug s poison", "the van keys joe could have git them keys have misty ron house key on it?".  The negative stuff about Misty just sounds like what Ron told her was her problem, IMO thinking she may throw us off.  I'm just reaching for anything at all because there is a little lost soul out there somewhere and the people who need to get up and help aren't doing anything.  I just hurt so bad for all these little babies.  My baby is almost 13 and if he was taken, hurt, etc., I'm afraid I might stop breathing, I don't know.  I know you go into survival mode but these people are unreal!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 09:41:55 AM
Rainy says   ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyConfused:: Oh my, I got what she was saying, but  ::MonkeyEek:: Could be Misty


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 09:59:11 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::


I read down through enough of rainy's post to realize.. Hey, this bad grammer is a put on..  She /He  makes mistakes and speaks as clearly as she / He possible can, she / He leaves off a bit of grammer such as plural's, no less that I do at times, and she doesn't mispell when her / his guard is down..  read below..  It's someone close at hand, but not an uneducated, uncomputerized person.. She / He knows what's she's / he's doing.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I did not like what Cobra said about nobody wanting Haleigh either. Who does he think he is? That Haleigh was not pretty and that was why she did not get media attention?
Haleigh is beautiful. Crystal is going to tell all about Cobra. Last I heard she was upset about what Cobra said.
She has her own side of this story.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Not making light of what? I read Llisa and do not see where it says Crystal Clear. It says clear alot though. So what if Crystal made up some lies. She needs to get attention on her situation. She can do what she wants with her money from Haleighbug. It is not anyones concern and if you do not like it, do not send money. Haleigh is Crystal daughter and Cobra need to stop asking for Crystal money.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: melisb on May 15, 2009, 09:59:58 AM
Gotta go to work, check back lata!  Ya'll have a wonderful day!  You Monkeys have all crimes solved by the time I get home!  Wouldn't that be wonderful.  If anyone can it's you guys! ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: melisb on May 15, 2009, 10:08:00 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::


I read down through enough of rainy's post to realize.. Hey, this bad grammer is a put on..  She /He  makes mistakes and speaks as clearly as she / He possible can, she / He leaves off a bit of grammer such as plural's, no less that I do at times, and she doesn't mispell when her / his guard is down..  read below..  It's someone close at hand, but not an uneducated, uncomputerized person.. She / He knows what's she's / he's doing.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I did not like what Cobra said about nobody wanting Haleigh either. Who does he think he is? That Haleigh was not pretty and that was why she did not get media attention?
Haleigh is beautiful. Crystal is going to tell all about Cobra. Last I heard she was upset about what Cobra said.
She has her own side of this story.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Not making light of what? I read Llisa and do not see where it says Crystal Clear. It says clear alot though. So what if Crystal made up some lies. She needs to get attention on her situation. She can do what she wants with her money from Haleighbug. It is not anyones concern and if you do not like it, do not send money. Haleigh is Crystal daughter and Cobra need to stop asking for Crystal money.

I know, yep I am going to work just had to interject here, Misty is very computer literate and just by looking at her past MySpace blurbs and comments the Rainy posts could be carbon copies (in language and structure).  Every once in a while she had decent thougt and was able to type it in correctly except for punctuation and spelling.  Have a great day!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 10:08:06 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::


Where is the link to this story, before we go accusing or pointing the finger at people?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 10:08:42 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,

Something that was on my mind this morning, why would Ronald say he is 75% sure who took Haleigh.....That statement is stuck in my mind. Most people would say " I have a idea who took Haleigh" or something to that nature, why use 75%....any thoughts on this or maybe  I'm over thinking that comment ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 10:09:45 AM
Good Morning Grama, mlee, all Monkeys and Guests!
TGIF!!
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Good Morning, Heart~  Ok, what do you have for us today.  You always spring something new on us....I am ready!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa::  Grama,  I got like 4 to 5 pages behind yesterday.  So playing ketchup this a.m.

Praying for good news on Haleigh today!

Hope your not playing Heinz, cause tht will make you slowwwwwwwwwwww!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 10:10:02 AM
If you can read deep enough you find very interesting comments..  Some clear as a bell and then watch them slip back into the gag.

rainy Says:
May 14th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Art- the van keys joe could have git them keys have misty ron house key on it?


rainy Says:
May 10th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Cobra got money from Crystal for bond. He needed to give it back when Nay Nay went back to jail. Crystal should get the money because her kid is missing. Even if she gets rich it will not make up for missing her Haleigh. Crystal does not need Cobra to take donations that should be going to her. That was not part of the deal for Cobra to take money away from her. 

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
oh come on art, cobra got mad because kim p had said he could use the money crystal gave him to give her, the money was owed to kim p. and kim p had cobra bail out nay nay and amber. or let cobra use it for bail cobra got upset. so he said that thing about crystal.
cause he got mad crystal called him on this crap. LE has said nobody has been ruled out. Art.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
you are saying LE has ruled Crystal out? Because I heard that LE had not ruled anyone out. I do not think she did it but LE has said that Nobody has been ruled out. It is never safe to assume a family member did not do this.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
huh? Not sure what you mean. On the Today show (the one with Ron and Misty married. They said that LE and had a qoute from LE that they were satified that Ron Cumming’s did not know where his daughter is at. But I have not heard them say that about Crystal at all. Now you may be right and Le may not feel she has nothing to do with it so they do not need to rule her out. but i have heard le say again and again that no family can be ruled out, so why do you say le has ruled out crystal. Where can I read that LE said that at all?

Now since LE has said they are satified that Ron does not know where his kid is and since cobra and you say that Haleigh is alive and with family. What family do you mean?

It is on the bloggers network what Cobra said and what he was asked. So why did he say Crystal was not the same in the media as she pretends to be and about the clean hands?

Why? Crystal did nothing wrong art harris. Cobra had the money deal with someone else not crystal. Then Cobra seen something somewhere and attack Crystal. And yes Crystal can ask for money for Haleigh. She is Haliegh mommy. Ron got money so why not crystal. Cobra do not make sense to me because he brought in kim p. He got the lawyer in and then he keeps bitchin that Ron got a lawyer. As if Ron got the lawyer before Crystal.

Cobra has said some things that do not make no sense. He is not Haleigh daddy or mommy. He does not love Haleigh more.
I think when he says God is going to judge people he should include himself and how he will be judged. First he pick on ROn, then he pick on Crystal. He want to promote himself.
He want money to look for Haleigh. LE look for Haleigh.

Horse """" is what I think. Daddy and mommy did not hurt Haleigh. They not perfect but the love the kid.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 10:14:33 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::


One thing about it, if it is short elevator why is she so pro Crystal.. all of this is protecting Crystal, and bits and pieces of protecting Marie.. like giving Marie the grandchildren to raise??  I really don't know if this is Crystal.. it is somebody very close to the situation.. right now, don't know..

I read down through enough of rainy's post to realize.. Hey, this bad grammer is a put on..  She /He  makes mistakes and speaks as clearly as she / He possible can, she / He leaves off a bit of grammer such as plural's, no less that I do at times, and she doesn't mispell when her / his guard is down..  read below..  It's someone close at hand, but not an uneducated, uncomputerized person.. She / He knows what's she's / he's doing.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I did not like what Cobra said about nobody wanting Haleigh either. Who does he think he is? That Haleigh was not pretty and that was why she did not get media attention?
Haleigh is beautiful. Crystal is going to tell all about Cobra. Last I heard she was upset about what Cobra said.
She has her own side of this story.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Not making light of what? I read Llisa and do not see where it says Crystal Clear. It says clear alot though. So what if Crystal made up some lies. She needs to get attention on her situation. She can do what she wants with her money from Haleighbug. It is not anyones concern and if you do not like it, do not send money. Haleigh is Crystal daughter and Cobra need to stop asking for Crystal money.

I know, yep I am going to work just had to interject here, Misty is very computer literate and just by looking at her past MySpace blurbs and comments the Rainy posts could be carbon copies (in language and structure).  Every once in a while she had decent thougt and was able to type it in correctly except for punctuation and spelling.  Have a great day!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 10:19:11 AM
Hello Mornin' Monkeys!  I think the sketch and pic favor way too much.  Slight differences but too close for comfort esp. w/Jr's  version of what happened,  "blk man in blk who took Sissy".  There is something I want ya'll to check out...on ArtHarris.com look at the first 3 or 4 stories and find all posts by "Rainy".  Rain, mist, Rainy, Misty.  Look at what is said, the terrible grammar, sentence structure and words used.  I'm tempted to believe that it is Misty.  If the rumor is true that they were in a horrible and physical fight this past wknd then she may be ready to spill beans.  She's very spiteful from what we've seen of her MySpace posts.  Check them out I'm curious to see what better minds than mine think! ::MonkeyWink::


One thing about it, if it is short elevator why is she so pro Crystal.. all of this is protecting Crystal, and bits and pieces of protecting Marie.. like giving Marie the grandchildren to raise??  I really don't know if this is Crystal.. it is somebody very close to the situation.. right now, don't know..

I read down through enough of rainy's post to realize.. Hey, this bad grammer is a put on..  She /He  makes mistakes and speaks as clearly as she / He possible can, she / He leaves off a bit of grammer such as plural's, no less that I do at times, and she doesn't mispell when her / his guard is down..  read below..  It's someone close at hand, but not an uneducated, uncomputerized person.. She / He knows what's she's / he's doing.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I did not like what Cobra said about nobody wanting Haleigh either. Who does he think he is? That Haleigh was not pretty and that was why she did not get media attention?
Haleigh is beautiful. Crystal is going to tell all about Cobra. Last I heard she was upset about what Cobra said.
She has her own side of this story.

rainy Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Not making light of what? I read Llisa and do not see where it says Crystal Clear. It says clear alot though. So what if Crystal made up some lies. She needs to get attention on her situation. She can do what she wants with her money from Haleighbug. It is not anyones concern and if you do not like it, do not send money. Haleigh is Crystal daughter and Cobra need to stop asking for Crystal money.

I know, yep I am going to work just had to interject here, Misty is very computer literate and just by looking at her past MySpace blurbs and comments the Rainy posts could be carbon copies (in language and structure).  Every once in a while she had decent thougt and was able to type it in correctly except for punctuation and spelling.  Have a great day!


We could have a case of drinking and typing, should be a cyberspace law against it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,

Something that was on my mind this morning, why would Ronald say he is 75% sure who took Haleigh.....That statement is stuck in my mind. Most people would say " I have a idea who took Haleigh" or something to that nature, why use 75%....any thoughts on this or maybe  I'm over thinking that comment ::MonkeyConfused::

Crystal said this on the Geraldo show I believe...she said that Ron had told this to her fiancee, Chad, which the very next day I believe, she said that she was mixed up or something...that someone else had overheard him say that and that he had not  told this to Chad... also supposedly told   this to a woman that he had never met before..A woman who has never come forward I might add to confirm this story...supposedly this strange woman did not know the families but had decided to drive down to see if she could help in any way and she said that Ron had told her that...does that make sense? that he would confide this to someone he does not know?  Another porkie that has been told in this ever ending saga...




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 10:22:41 AM
The post that are better written are done either early morning or during the day, the sloppy on was at nite so maybe the poster is nipping and typing is what I am thinking. ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 10:23:28 AM
Good Morning Grama, mlee, all Monkeys and Guests!
TGIF!!
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Good Morning, Heart~  Ok, what do you have for us today.  You always spring something new on us....I am ready!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa::  Grama,  I got like 4 to 5 pages behind yesterday.  So playing ketchup this a.m.

Praying for good news on Haleigh today!

Hope your not playing Heinz, cause tht will make you slowwwwwwwwwwww!!
     


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 10:38:31 AM
Good morning monks  ::MonkeyCool::  About those quote stacks...It's okay to use quotes, especially if you are referring to someone's post that isn't on the same page etc.  When I've fussed about quote stacks is when we are all on the same page, basically talking about the same thing, it isn't necessary to hit quote, when a reply will do.  I've seen the quote button used on an article at least seven or eight times in succession on the SAME page.  That means quoting the previous 7 quotes too, instead of quoting just  the original post.  Quoting can add clarity, and it can also muddy up a thread if it us used excessively.  Excessive quotes can make it hard to see who said what, esp. for those coming along and reading later.  I don't have any kind of limit on quote stacks.  I just ask that it be reasonable.  It's okay to quote something funny.  But when you quote the next quoter, then next quoter, then then next, you end up with a stack of (and I have counted) over thirteen quotes on the same article all stacked up.   Not quoted seperatrly or in two's or threes.  It's not so nice to other posters. I saw the Rainbow Bridge with a color photo posted and quoted in an mp thread eleven times in a short period.  Why not refer to the "Rainbow Bridge" or give condolences?  I too am an animal lover, but you all need to remember where you are when you post.  And the threads are read and shared by many other then then few you may see signed in at the time.

I think some are making more of the quote stacking then is necessary.  Sometimes reminders are just that.  And the posts that were removed a couple of days ago by me were OT and stacked.  No one is saying you can't have fun and levity.  Just try to keep it brief in mp threads.  Some may get angry and resentful for what is part of my job as a moderator.  I don't like to spoil fun either.  Just try to keep things reasonable.

Muffers...when I was referring to  keeping quote stacking in control..it was from a request quite a while back...nothing recent...And when the request was made by whomever, can't remember which mod...it was a very reasonable request..I have seen whole newspaper articles posted, requoted, requoted many many times over just to have an "I agree" or  "well said" etc....posted after it! If we just snip parts that we want to comment on and refer back to the original quote, picture, that should be easy enough to follow right?  jmo...don't know why anyone would get angry or resentful at you for doing your job as a mod....you do good! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 10:42:58 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,

Something that was on my mind this morning, why would Ronald say he is 75% sure who took Haleigh.....That statement is stuck in my mind. Most people would say " I have a idea who took Haleigh" or something to that nature, why use 75%....any thoughts on this or maybe  I'm over thinking that comment ::MonkeyConfused::

Crystal said this on the Geraldo show I believe...she said that Ron had told this to her fiancee, Chad, which the very next day I believe, she said that she was mixed up or something...that someone else had overheard him say that and that he had not  told this to Chad... also supposedly told   this to a woman that he had never met before..A woman who has never come forward I might add to confirm this story...supposedly this strange woman did not know the families but had decided to drive down to see if she could help in any way and she said that Ron had told her that...does that make sense? that he would confide this to someone he does not know?  Another porkie that has been told in this ever ending saga...





Thank you for clearing that up for me ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 10:48:56 AM
Good Morning Grama, mlee, all Monkeys and Guests!
TGIF!!
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Good Morning, Heart~  Ok, what do you have for us today.  You always spring something new on us....I am ready!!!! ::MonkeyTongue::
::MonkeyHaHa::  Grama,  I got like 4 to 5 pages behind yesterday.  So playing ketchup this a.m.

Praying for good news on Haleigh today!

Hope your not playing Heinz, cause tht will make you slowwwwwwwwwwww!!

slowwwwwwwwwwww, but so good!   ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 11:01:59 AM


Quote

We could have a case of drinking and typing, should be a cyberspace law against it.

Well if its the drink then it starts early, clears up and finishs late.. I think its a disguise..  I did note, protects crystal, hates her dad, big protective issue on money coming in to the Haleighbug center, adament that it belongs to Crystal, which the details would have to be privy to inside info, and has inside info on the house key being on the ring of keys for the van, which only a cummings would know.. sort of confusing. Combine all of this and your have to really wonder?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 11:20:25 AM
Mlee   Isee what you mean now . I was too focused on the bad grammar and spelling parts to notice some of the other . I think you got it , it's an act .IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 11:27:26 AM
Mlee   Isee what you mean now . I was too focused on the bad grammar and spelling parts to notice some of the other . I think you got it , it's an act .IMO

I agree with both of you, people will do anything for attention, if it was Misty maybe some of the information is per Ron and she is quoting him....who knows, I know that little interview he did on his site appeared to me to be bs, for one he keep grinding his jaw like he was high...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 11:41:45 AM
Mlee   Isee what you mean now . I was too focused on the bad grammar and spelling parts to notice some of the other . I think you got it , it's an act .IMO

I agree with both of you, people will do anything for attention, if it was Misty maybe some of the information is per Ron and she is quoting him....who knows, I know that little interview he did on his site appeared to me to be bs, for one he keep grinding his jaw like he was high...jmo
Meth mouth?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
Seen a better image, this is the one currently online.
Okay, what do you guys think???

Wow Mlee, it looks like the same guy to me.  If the one is a sketch and it appears to be, somebody would have discribed the facial features to the artist and the features on these two photos have a lot of similarities.


The guy in the sketch broke into a home the night before, he attempted to abduct a little 4 year old girl, and when she began to scream.. it woke the family up and the man was chased down the street.  This occurred in Orange County, some 75 miles south of Satsuma.

Now the guy in the photo, was or is ron cummings best friend an buddy Orlando.
You and I are about the only one's who see the same similarities.  I saw that sketch come on tv and Orlando hit my mind, and I had to search out his photo.  If they were or are the same person..  We have to remember that he had absolute access to Haleigh.  In fact it looks like he and ron use to be room mates.  Haleigh was raised with Orlando being around, she would never have been frightened of him.  Which brings to mind, if Junior woke and thought he was looking at Orlando that night, he wouldn't have been frightened.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


morning mlee,
If you remember, a while back, I was looking into this shadow man who stood behind ron in the beginning, and now he is gone. I also saw the sketch of man in orlando, and also thought of the rons shadow man looking similar. These guys do travel,, and only an hr or so to orlando form satsuma...

I saw the composite and first thing that hit my mind, was Orlando.. and I had to search out his photo and then compare them.
Learned last night that he and ron may well have roomed together, which means the kids are very well adjusted to Orlando, would never fear him.  I see it in his eyebrow on the right, his eyes, the puffy below his eyes, his cheeks, the nose, the mouth, a composite is from memory, that came from a visual that lasted maybe 20 to 30 seconds.  The man in that house was about 6 feet tall.  There was also a 13 year old in Jacksonville that got into a red car and went missing.. I haven't heard anything about her being found or who she was with, that's been over a month ago.  For what ever reason, Orlando hit my mind then and I had to search out this same photo to make sure of the color of the car.  We haven't really checked him out, we know very little about him, although Grama has talked about him several times, especially since he was suddenly not in the picture.  I don't know if Le checked him out or not..


Home invader tries to abduct 4-year-old girl

Last Update: 7:45 am
Orange County authorities released a composite sketch of a man who tried to abduct a 4-year-old girl from her home.
Orange County authorities released a composite sketch of a man who tried to abduct a 4-year-old girl from her home.

ORLANDO, FL -- Authorities say they're looking for the man who broke into an east Orange County home and tried to abduct a 4-year-old girl.

The Orange County sheriff's office reports that the girl's screams woke up her parents early Thursday morning. The man quickly jumped out a window, and the girl's father him for several hundred yards before giving up.

"She was able to scream, parents were woken up, they came, engaged the suspect, he dove back out the window, the father pursued him up the street," said Sgt. Rich Mankewich of the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Deputies responded and search dogs tracked the suspect to a parking lot a half-mile away, but eventually lost his scent.

Authorities believe the attempted abduction was sexually motivated. A sheriff's spokesman says such flagrant abductions are extremely unusual.
A neighbor says she and others neighborhood want to know how and why the suspect targeted their neighbor's house.

"We heard a scream. We both jumped up and looked out the front window," she told Orlando station WFTV. "You just wonder if they actually, if they cased the house, did they case mine? Who else around here that has children was he checking out?"

The suspect is described as a possibly Hispanic, heavyset male, about six feet tall
, wearing a silver shirt and black pants. Investigators said he may be in his mid-30s.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story/Home-invader-tries-to-abduct-4-year-old-girl/5KMNEPYHekKvhDKnJK6K-w.cspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
Father indicted in 4-year-old's murder
Prosecutors say they will seek the death penalty for Matthew Roland.


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090513/ARTICLES/905131008/1002?Title=Father-indicted-for-murder-of-4-year-old-Kristina


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 11:48:19 AM
Mlee   Isee what you mean now . I was too focused on the bad grammar and spelling parts to notice some of the other . I think you got it , it's an act .IMO

I agree with both of you, people will do anything for attention, if it was Misty maybe some of the information is per Ron and she is quoting him....who knows, I know that little interview he did on his site appeared to me to be bs, for one he keep grinding his jaw like he was high...jmo
Meth mouth?

Rose did you watch the video? He had that a--looking grin on his face ::MonkeyNoNo:: and then in the end he was plain goofy to me ::MonkeyEek::

he should have said nothing at all in my opinion. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 11:49:18 AM
Good morning monks  ::MonkeyCool::  About those quote stacks...It's okay to use quotes, especially if you are referring to someone's post that isn't on the same page etc.  When I've fussed about quote stacks is when we are all on the same page, basically talking about the same thing, it isn't necessary to hit quote, when a reply will do.  I've seen the quote button used on an article at least seven or eight times in succession on the SAME page.  That means quoting the previous 7 quotes too, instead of quoting just  the original post.  Quoting can add clarity, and it can also muddy up a thread if it us used excessively.  Excessive quotes can make it hard to see who said what, esp. for those coming along and reading later.  I don't have any kind of limit on quote stacks.  I just ask that it be reasonable.  It's okay to quote something funny.  But when you quote the next quoter, then next quoter, then then next, you end up with a stack of (and I have counted) over thirteen quotes on the same article all stacked up.   Not quoted seperatrly or in two's or threes.  It's not so nice to other posters. I saw the Rainbow Bridge with a color photo posted and quoted in an mp thread eleven times in a short period.  Why not refer to the "Rainbow Bridge" or give condolences?  I too am an animal lover, but you all need to remember where you are when you post.  And the threads are read and shared by many other then then few you may see signed in at the time.

I think some are making more of the quote stacking then is necessary.  Sometimes reminders are just that.  And the posts that were removed a couple of days ago by me were OT and stacked.  No one is saying you can't have fun and levity.  Just try to keep it brief in mp threads.  Some may get angry and resentful for what is part of my job as a moderator.  I don't like to spoil fun either.  Just try to keep things reasonable.


Muffers...when I was referring to  keeping quote stacking in control..it was from a request quite a while back...nothing recent...And when the request was made by whomever, can't remember which mod...it was a very reasonable request..I have seen whole newspaper articles posted, requoted, requoted many many times over just to have an "I agree" or  "well said" etc....posted after it! If we just snip parts that we want to comment on and refer back to the original quote, picture, that should be easy enough to follow right?  jmo...don't know why anyone would get angry or resentful at you for doing your job as a mod....you do good! 


Guess it all revolves around playing closer attention to the board.

But I never knew about the copyrite laws and that we were only allowed to copy one paragraph of an article , plus submit the link.  Even though I have been around for awhile now, this was something new to me, and I hope newcomers are aware of this .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 11:54:43 AM
Father indicted in 4-year-old's murder
Prosecutors say they will seek the death penalty for Matthew Roland.


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090513/ARTICLES/905131008/1002?Title=Father-indicted-for-murder-of-4-year-old-Kristina
Dear Lord  ::MonkeyNoNo:: what this little one had to go through.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 11:55:47 AM
possibly Hispanic.

Heart, Possible = it could be, does not mean it is..  The people who saw him, probably had a visual of him for about 15 to 30 seconds, before he was on the run.. You think they have this composite from a 4 year old?  This is from the adults who saw him running away. And the man is about 6 ft. Tall, but does not mean he isn't 5"11".  If they said he weighed about 250 lbs, does not mean he couldn't weigh 235 lbs. All the description given and a composite equals, The best guess they have from eye witness's.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 12:01:08 PM
Mlee   Isee what you mean now . I was too focused on the bad grammar and spelling parts to notice some of the other . I think you got it , it's an act .IMO

I agree with both of you, people will do anything for attention, if it was Misty maybe some of the information is per Ron and she is quoting him....who knows, I know that little interview he did on his site appeared to me to be bs, for one he keep grinding his jaw like he was high...jmo
Meth mouth?

Rose did you watch the video? He had that a--looking grin on his face ::MonkeyNoNo:: and then in the end he was plain goofy to me ::MonkeyEek::

he should have said nothing at all in my opinion. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
I agree, he should have said nothing. And how many people are going to see this video on his lawyer's website anyway?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 12:07:36 PM
Mlee   Isee what you mean now . I was too focused on the bad grammar and spelling parts to notice some of the other . I think you got it , it's an act .IMO

I agree with both of you, people will do anything for attention, if it was Misty maybe some of the information is per Ron and she is quoting him....who knows, I know that little interview he did on his site appeared to me to be bs, for one he keep grinding his jaw like he was high...jmo
Meth mouth?

Rose did you watch the video? He had that a--looking grin on his face ::MonkeyNoNo:: and then in the end he was plain goofy to me ::MonkeyEek::

he should have said nothing at all in my opinion. ::MonkeyNoNo:: ::MonkeyNoNo::
I agree, he should have said nothing. And how many people are going to see this video on his lawyer's website anyway?


I guess just all of us "Sad Bloggers"....Cindy Anthonys quote. ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 12:10:07 PM
I sure would like to know how some people can give a description, when they only see the person for a very short time, or see them at a glance.

I have been trying when in diffent stores, looking at someone, turning away and trying to give a description on what I just saw.  You know, I can't even begin to say, the size of his face, whether round, oval or whether his eyebrows were bushy or not.  Whether the eyes were slanted, close together etc.

Even when my son walks into the house, sits down has a coffee, when he leaves, I say, OK, what was he wearing that shouldn't be too hard, heck he was here in front of me for 30 minutes.  I still have have a very hard time to even describe his clothing. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
possibly Hispanic.

Heart, Possible = it could be, does not mean it is..  The people who saw him, probably had a visual of him for about 15 to 30 seconds, before he was on the run.. You think they have this composite from a 4 year old?  This is from the adults who saw him running away. And the man is about 6 ft. Tall, but does not mean he isn't 5"11".  If they said he weighed about 250 lbs, does not mean he couldn't weigh 235 lbs. All the description given and a composite equals, The best guess they have from eye witness's.

Well mlee, imho, its better than posting someone's pic on the worldwide internet as a possible suspect or comparison.  The culprit could have resembled you or some of your relatives. How would you feel with you or yours pic being compared as the culprit in a crime?  Just saying!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 12:46:02 PM
I sure would like to know how some people can give a description, when they only see the person for a very short time, or see them at a glance.

I have been trying when in diffent stores, looking at someone, turning away and trying to give a description on what I just saw.  You know, I can't even begin to say, the size of his face, whether round, oval or whether his eyebrows were bushy or not.  Whether the eyes were slanted, close together etc.

Even when my son walks into the house, sits down has a coffee, when he leaves, I say, OK, what was he wearing that shouldn't be too hard, heck he was here in front of me for 30 minutes.  I still have have a very hard time to even describe his clothing. 

Me too Grama, my mind grabs faces, seldom names.. I saw the grandkids leave for school, the only thing I can guarentee seeing, was three were wearing jeans..  and the little one was wearing walking shorts.. Color huh.. I would have to guess..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 15, 2009, 12:59:58 PM
Morning Monkeys...running on empty today.  I think the composite resembles Orlando GREATLY.  Thinking the father that ran after the would be abductor probably gave description, yes?   When something bad is happening I think a little photograph is burned into your mind.  It's brief, only a second and I'm not sure how one goes about getting a composite from that!  And by the way, where the heck IS ORLANDO??  Oh my smart smart monkeys...someone needs to find this character STAT.   This is WORRYING ME!  Human trafficking, slave trades, oh man, my mind can't even begin to wrap around that today.

About Rainy=Misty, what about Rainy=Crystal? 

I think on my day off I might have to just sit and not move. I'm not even sure I can get up and out the door today.  <lopsided tired monkey grin> Have a beautiful day everyone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 01:09:14 PM
Morning Monkeys...running on empty today.  I think the composite resembles Orlando GREATLY.  Thinking the father that ran after the would be abductor probably gave description, yes?   When something bad is happening I think a little photograph is burned into your mind.  It's brief, only a second and I'm not sure how one goes about getting a composite from that!  And by the way, where the heck IS ORLANDO??  Oh my smart smart monkeys...someone needs to find this character STAT.   This is WORRYING ME!  Human trafficking, slave trades, oh man, my mind can't even begin to wrap around that today.

About Rainy=Misty, what about Rainy=Crystal? 

I think on my day off I might have to just sit and not move. I'm not even sure I can get up and out the door today.  <lopsided tired monkey grin> Have a beautiful day everyone.


Thunder Bunny, Have a good day and get you some B12 and B6 will help with your energy....and yes I wonder if Crystal is posting any where?  Orlando is probably staying clean and lying low, I would if I lived in Satsuma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 01:14:15 PM
Morning Monkeys...running on empty today.  I think the composite resembles Orlando GREATLY.  Thinking the father that ran after the would be abductor probably gave description, yes?   When something bad is happening I think a little photograph is burned into your mind.  It's brief, only a second and I'm not sure how one goes about getting a composite from that!  And by the way, where the heck IS ORLANDO??  Oh my smart smart monkeys...someone needs to find this character STAT.   This is WORRYING ME!  Human trafficking, slave trades, oh man, my mind can't even begin to wrap around that today.

About Rainy=Misty, what about Rainy=Crystal? 

I think on my day off I might have to just sit and not move. I'm not even sure I can get up and out the door today.  <lopsided tired monkey grin> Have a beautiful day everyone.


It Does sound like you are on your way to work.... be careful out there...  We be here when you get back... And your right it could well be Crystal or Short Elevator... they know inside info.. have to be in the fold to either hear or know stuffs..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 01:35:24 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 01:36:14 PM
Hello Monkeys, well no word on Haleigh, Im so tired of all the drug players in this case, if they would just lock up all these drug abusers and runners and lowlifes, then they would only have a few people to watch while the rest was in jail! Dont let them back out again, when you get them, keep them and after a few months in the jail they may then sober up eneough if they do have any  info worth anything Ill bet they will be ready to talk and stop playing games!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 01:37:23 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   

Grama, who is this...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 01:42:05 PM
A nobody that needs a ride to court  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 01:46:28 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 01:50:55 PM
A nobody that needs a ride to court  ::MonkeyLaugh::
::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 01:51:57 PM
Oh and I completely forgot to welcome our newcomer, Hello Patricia, Im  Higher Hopes,   glad you could join us, welcome!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster





My mind is blank...is this the guy that molested Misty?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 01:53:36 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   


HELLO!!!!!!!!!!  That woman's gonna own part of the jail.....  Never Fear.. Chuck will be there..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 01:55:55 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   

I saw that earlier Grama.  I wondered why no pic of her on this or her last arrest.  Also wonder if she is related to the Scotts at 215 Green Lane in Satsuma per the White Pages.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 01:56:49 PM
Morning Monkeys...running on empty today.  I think the composite resembles Orlando GREATLY.  Thinking the father that ran after the would be abductor probably gave description, yes?   When something bad is happening I think a little photograph is burned into your mind.  It's brief, only a second and I'm not sure how one goes about getting a composite from that!  And by the way, where the heck IS ORLANDO??  Oh my smart smart monkeys...someone needs to find this character STAT.   This is WORRYING ME!  Human trafficking, slave trades, oh man, my mind can't even begin to wrap around that today.

About Rainy=Misty, what about Rainy=Crystal? 

I think on my day off I might have to just sit and not move. I'm not even sure I can get up and out the door today.  <lopsided tired monkey grin> Have a beautiful day everyone.

Orlando is Ron's friend right? The one that kinda dips in and out. One time he seems pretty much Ron's shadow and the next time he is MIA as far as being seen in the news clips.
I've wondered the same thing about the Rainy poster.
Have a better day. (I pulled a muscle in my back somehow so I am taking it easy today too.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 01:57:59 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   

I dont know if good ole Chuck will have this kinda money, and I dont think they will let her out after all that, if they do they will never see her again, she sure hasnt proven that you can rely on her to be where she is suppose to be!

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!  That woman's gonna own part of the jail.....  Never Fear.. Chuck will be there..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 01:58:33 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster





Town is so small, everyone knows everyone.. would put money on it was foul play..  I bet He just met up with the wrong good ole boys club that night..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 01:59:06 PM
Oh and I completely forgot to welcome our newcomer, Hello Patricia, Im  Higher Hopes,   glad you could join us, welcome!
Hiya HH. Thank you. I feel like I already know y'all since I've been reading here since the beginning of this case. I signed up a while back and was waiting confirmation.
Glad to be here in good company!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 02:00:21 PM
Patricia thats a weird one  http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster
"Meet me in the dumpster " this clown had problems !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:00:48 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster

Or the girl (friend) whose car he borrowed's ol man had an issue with him maybe?



Town is so small, everyone knows everyone.. would put money on it was foul play..  I bet He just met up with the wrong good ole boys club that night..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:01:42 PM
I have no idea how I just did that. My response got into my original comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   


Quote
I dont know if good ole Chuck will have this kinda money, and I dont think they will let her out after all that, if they do they will never see her again, she sure hasnt proven that you can rely on her to be where she is suppose to be!

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HELLO!!!!!!!!!!  That woman's gonna own part of the jail.....  Never Fear.. Chuck will be there..

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Bond would run about 6,000.00.. yea Chuck can do it.. Chuck can get anybody out..  Ole Chuck's the Man!!!  actually its she, because he has a criminal record, so the business is in her name.. Dale.... But, we can use the name "Chuck"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:03:51 PM
Patricia thats a weird one  http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster
"Meet me in the dumpster " this clown had problems !

I have a feeling that the girl's (friend of Cr's) old man may have had issue with CR somehow. Seems rather odd how that whole incident occurred.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 02:04:09 PM
I have no idea how I just did that. My response got into my original comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::
That NEVER  happened before  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:07:40 PM
Ha Ha Ha I've seen it before but how the heck?
LOL It's must be some kind of initiation thing though eh?
Yall are trying to mess with me right?
LOLOL Just kidding...maybe though?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:09:48 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
No that would have been Misty's cousin whom you are speaking of. This Chad is Chad Reynold's and it is yet to be discovered if he even knew any of the people connected to Haleigh's case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 02:12:22 PM
Ha Ha Ha I've seen it before but how the heck?
LOL It's must be some kind of initiation thing though eh?
Yall are trying to mess with me right?
LOLOL Just kidding...maybe though?
Make sure you click at the very last place it says quote then that key that says enter with the crooked arrow . I am not talking down to you . Making it simple cause I have no idea what that key is called   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
Chad Reynolds is on the radar because of how soon Haleigh cam up missing after he disappeared. Also to mention that he is an RSO and has family members in Putnam County. LE does not believe that he was involved and are currently concerned that he may have met foul play.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:13:51 PM
Ha Ha Ha I've seen it before but how the heck?
LOL It's must be some kind of initiation thing though eh?
Yall are trying to mess with me right?
LOLOL Just kidding...maybe though?
Make sure you click at the very last place it says quote then that key that says enter with the crooked arrow . I am not talking down to you . Making it simple cause I have no idea what that key is called   ::MonkeyLaugh::

No No I appreciate your help. Thank you :)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 02:14:24 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
Chad is a local SO that came up missing the same or next day


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:17:11 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
Chad is a local SO that came up missing the same or next day

I'm not sure that is right. I think he was missing superbowl Sunday right? Which day is superbowl Sunday? (My husband likes football too Sheesh you'd think I'd know this stuff.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:19:12 PM
Superbowl Sunday was Feb. 1rst.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 02:20:42 PM
You're probably right patricia . I forget his details because he got ruled out so early .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 02:23:27 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
Chad is a local SO that came up missing the same or next day

I'm not sure that is right. I think he was missing superbowl Sunday right? Which day is superbowl Sunday? (My husband likes football too Sheesh you'd think I'd know this stuff.)


Thank you to everyone for answering my question, That chad favors Misty to me..But everybody in Satsuma is beginning to look alike...could be the drugs they use. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:24:06 PM
You're probably right patricia . I forget his details because he got ruled out so early .
Yeah me too. I try my best to keep open all possibilities though and there is just so many things going on with this case. Makes it hard to remember every single detail of information without looking it up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
Chad is a local SO that came up missing the same or next day

I'm not sure that is right. I think he was missing superbowl Sunday right? Which day is superbowl Sunday? (My husband likes football too Sheesh you'd think I'd know this stuff.)


Thank you to everyone for answering my question, That chad favors Misty to me..But everybody in Satsuma is beginning to look alike...could be the drugs they use. ::MonkeyConfused::

That is a very scary thought, that they will all start looking like short elevator, a whole town of short elevators, running around like robots, yelling " I don't Know"..  "ron was a work".  And cigarette's hanging at an angle from their mouth's.. You would have to call GramaMonkey in wearing her boots..  And Wyks parachuting in with her pointed toe boots..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 02:33:26 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
Chad is a local SO that came up missing the same or next day

I'm not sure that is right. I think he was missing superbowl Sunday right? Which day is superbowl Sunday? (My husband likes football too Sheesh you'd think I'd know this stuff.)


Thank you to everyone for answering my question, That chad favors Misty to me..But everybody in Satsuma is beginning to look alike...could be the drugs they use. ::MonkeyConfused::

That is a very scary thought, that they will all start looking like short elevator, a whole town of short elevators, running around like robots, yelling " I don't Know"..  "ron was a work".  And cigarette's hanging at an angle from their mouth's.. You would have to call GramaMonkey in wearing her boots..  And Wyks parachuting in with her pointed toe boots..
::cartwheel::That was priceless melee ::cartwheel:: ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 02:34:24 PM
Patricia thats a weird one  http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster
"Meet me in the dumpster " this clown had problems !
Reynolds may have climbed into a nearby trash bin, fallen asleep and been taken away. How in the world would they figure that? ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:36:01 PM
Can someone refresh ::MonkeyRoll:: ::MonkeyRoll:: my computer confused mind...Is Chad the one that was accused of molesting Misty?
Chad is a local SO that came up missing the same or next day

I'm not sure that is right. I think he was missing superbowl Sunday right? Which day is superbowl Sunday? (My husband likes football too Sheesh you'd think I'd know this stuff.)


Thank you to everyone for answering my question, That chad favors Misty to me..But everybody in Satsuma is beginning to look alike...could be the drugs they use. ::MonkeyConfused::

That is a very scary thought, that they will all start looking like short elevator, a whole town of short elevators, running around like robots, yelling " I don't Know"..  "ron was a work".  And cigarette's hanging at an angle from their mouth's.. You would have to call GramaMonkey in wearing her boots..  And Wyks parachuting in with her pointed toe boots..

OMG Mlee! And the scary thing about all of that is how hard I just laughed. I think it was a masked horror reaction kind of thing though.  ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 02:37:57 PM
I have no idea how I just did that. My response got into my original comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Congrats, you are officially a monkey now, LOL!   ::MonkeyDevil:: 

A good majority of us have done this one or twenty times.  heeeeeeee  As another monkey already mentioned, when you are quoting someone, make sure to begin typing after the very last [/ quote], even leaving a few spaces with the enter bar to be sure.  Sometimes ya gotta go looking for that last quote thing, it can be hiding down the page out of view.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  That's usually what trips some of us up.  heh.  A good number of more seasoned monkeys still do it every now and then, so not to worry, k?   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:39:11 PM
Patricia thats a weird one  http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster
"Meet me in the dumpster " this clown had problems !
Reynolds may have climbed into a nearby trash bin, fallen asleep and been taken away. How in the world would they figure that? ::MonkeyEek::

"If" he were passed out from drinking you would think that he would not have been allowed to drive at all if he were that intoxicated but too those dump trucks are not quiet at all. I am thinking it possible that something did happen to him and they then threw him in the dumspter unconscious or worse. The whole thing of him "hiding" in a dumpster could be bogus and fabricated to cover their actions in case he is found at the dumpsite.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:41:33 PM
I have no idea how I just did that. My response got into my original comment?  ::MonkeyConfused::

Congrats, you are officially a monkey now, LOL!   ::MonkeyDevil:: 

A good majority of us have done this one or twenty times.  heeeeeeee  As another monkey already mentioned, when you are quoting someone, make sure to begin typing after the very last [/ quote], even leaving a few spaces with the enter bar to be sure.  Sometimes ya gotta go looking for that last quote thing, it can be hiding down the page out of view.   ::MonkeyHaHa::  That's usually what trips some of us up.  heh.  A good number of more seasoned monkeys still do it every now and then, so not to worry, k?   ::MonkeyAngel::


K. Thank you Wyks. And Good Afternoon too!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 02:42:22 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster


Thanks Patricia! 

And wtf??  This dude was gonna wait INSIDE the dumpster for the friend?  Who does that?   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 02:43:19 PM
Actually Patricia, you would be surprised how many times that really happens..  Every winter homeless people climb in dumpsters, and most of the time the guys who haul off the trash do try to check them.. But, bodies are found buried deep in the waste..  Every once and awhile, a leg will show up or a hand, and they start digging through and find the bodies.
Sad but true....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 02:45:46 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster


Thanks Patricia! 

And wtf??  This dude was gonna wait INSIDE the dumpster for the friend?  Who does that?   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Sounds like he was hiding from someone...I wonder if LE was looking for him in the dumpster they searched near Haleighs home...just a thought


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
Patricia thats a weird one  http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster
"Meet me in the dumpster " this clown had problems !
Reynolds may have climbed into a nearby trash bin, fallen asleep and been taken away. How in the world would they figure that? ::MonkeyEek::

"If" he were passed out from drinking you would think that he would not have been allowed to drive at all if he were that intoxicated but too those dump trucks are not quiet at all. I am thinking it possible that something did happen to him and they then threw him in the dumspter unconscious or worse. The whole thing of him "hiding" in a dumpster could be bogus and fabricated to cover their actions in case he is found at the dumpsite.
"If" what I just considered did happen it would be hard to prove he were injured before the Dump truck squished (I think I'm gonna be sick) down and all. If he is at the dumpsit I hope they find him soon. Not sure if there would be any remaining evidence or? to prove what could possibly have happened if he is indeed at the dumpsite.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 02:49:04 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster


Thanks Patricia! 

And wtf??  This dude was gonna wait INSIDE the dumpster for the friend?  Who does that?   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::


Sounds like he was hiding from someone...I wonder if LE was looking for him in the dumpster they searched near Haleighs home...just a thought

Good question, because many times they load up dumpsters and replace them with empties.. And it is possible there could have been a switch off of dumpsters.  And the dogs did hit on something.. He may have met foul play and been thrown in a dumpster..  could have made the mistake of climbing into someone elses  bedroom dumpster that night and not been too welcome.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:50:20 PM
Actually Patricia, you would be surprised how many times that really happens..  Every winter homeless people climb in dumpsters, and most of the time the guys who haul off the trash do try to check them.. But, bodies are found buried deep in the waste..  Every once and awhile, a leg will show up or a hand, and they start digging through and find the bodies.
Sad but true....

At an old place of employment, I was throwing some boxes out and boy did I jump out of my shoes darned near when some guy in that dumpster started yelling at me. I am certain alls anyone could see of me was knees and elbows hightailing it back inside.
I agree.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 02:52:57 PM
Actually Patricia, you would be surprised how many times that really happens..  Every winter homeless people climb in dumpsters, and most of the time the guys who haul off the trash do try to check them.. But, bodies are found buried deep in the waste..  Every once and awhile, a leg will show up or a hand, and they start digging through and find the bodies.
Sad but true....

At an old place of employment, I was throwing some boxes out and boy did I jump out of my shoes darned near when some guy in that dumpster started yelling at me. I am certain alls anyone could see of me was knees and elbows hightailing it back inside.
I agree.
I just had a visual of this happening and I had to laugh, it would scare me too, but its sad that some people actually do live that way!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 02:53:11 PM
Actually Patricia, you would be surprised how many times that really happens..  Every winter homeless people climb in dumpsters, and most of the time the guys who haul off the trash do try to check them.. But, bodies are found buried deep in the waste..  Every once and awhile, a leg will show up or a hand, and they start digging through and find the bodies.
Sad but true....

At an old place of employment, I was throwing some boxes out and boy did I jump out of my shoes darned near when some guy in that dumpster started yelling at me. I am certain alls anyone could see of me was knees and elbows hightailing it back inside.
I agree.

Nothing like spending your day guarding a dump, while they dig for a body..  Smell is horrible..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
Good day Monkeys.
 
Not sure if anyone saw this Regarding Chad Reynolds yet.
Chad Reynolds is the RSO who has been missing. His disappearance came shortly before Haleigh's and he has family in Putnam County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090514/ARTICLES/905149981?Title=Missing-sex-predator-may-have-fallen-asleep-in-Dumpster


Thanks Patricia! 

And wtf??  This dude was gonna wait INSIDE the dumpster for the friend?  Who does that?   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyNoNo::



Sounds like he was hiding from someone...I wonder if LE was looking for him in the dumpster they searched near Haleighs home...just a thought

Here is the mug on the Scott woman, not sure why noone had seen it, as it was up when I posted her charges.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/adb.jpg)

Chad probably calls DUMPSTER'S home.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
Actually Patricia, you would be surprised how many times that really happens..  Every winter homeless people climb in dumpsters, and most of the time the guys who haul off the trash do try to check them.. But, bodies are found buried deep in the waste..  Every once and awhile, a leg will show up or a hand, and they start digging through and find the bodies.
Sad but true....

At an old place of employment, I was throwing some boxes out and boy did I jump out of my shoes darned near when some guy in that dumpster started yelling at me. I am certain alls anyone could see of me was knees and elbows hightailing it back inside.
I agree.
I just had a visual of this happening and I had to laugh, it would scare me too, but its sad that some people actually do live that way!
Very sad. A lot of them are mentally ill persons too. Breaks my heart.
PS
I can laugh about that incident now though I never went out to those dumpsters alone again I tell ya.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 03:00:15 PM
Gosh Grama,   that  scared me!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 03:02:46 PM
Hello Monkeys, well no word on Haleigh, Im so tired of all the drug players in this case, if they would just lock up all these drug abusers and runners and lowlifes, then they would only have a few people to watch while the rest was in jail! Dont let them back out again, when you get them, keep them and after a few months in the jail they may then sober up eneough if they do have any  info worth anything Ill bet they will be ready to talk and stop playing games!

Hi HH!  I totally agree with you!  Wonder if they even have enough room in the local jail if they brought all of em in?  Might have to stack em so high and wide in each cell, the ceiling and walls would bulge!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

IMO, this would be a great time, if ever, for "America's toughest sheriff" to pay a lil visit to the Satsuma area.   ::MonkeyCool::  Sheriff Joe Arpaio from Phoenix AZ, can show LE in Florida how to run a jail.  heeeeeeeeeee

The good Sheriff runs the Maricopa County tent city for pink-clad inmates.  More than 2,000 prisoners live together in the tents without smokes, coffee, porn mags, movies and tv.  Meals actually cost less than 20 cents each. 

He has also instituted "Hard Knocks High", the only accredited high school in an American jail.  That, along with an anti-drug program has resulted in a high percentage of his inmates leaving jail without their addictions and few of them returning.

Must be the pink clothes.  I think I love that man.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

For more info, go here and click on the 'tent city' tab:
http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Jail_Facilities&mn=Our_Jails (http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Jail_Facilities&mn=Our_Jails)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 03:06:05 PM
Hello Monkeys, well no word on Haleigh, Im so tired of all the drug players in this case, if they would just lock up all these drug abusers and runners and lowlifes, then they would only have a few people to watch while the rest was in jail! Dont let them back out again, when you get them, keep them and after a few months in the jail they may then sober up eneough if they do have any  info worth anything Ill bet they will be ready to talk and stop playing games!

Hi HH!  I totally agree with you!  Wonder if they even have enough room in the local jail if they brought all of em in?  Might have to stack em so high and wide in each cell, the ceiling and walls would bulge!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

IMO, this would be a great time, if ever, for "America's toughest sheriff" to pay a lil visit to the Satsuma area.   ::MonkeyCool::  Sheriff Joe Arpaio from Phoenix AZ, can show LE in Florida how to run a jail.  heeeeeeeeeee

The good Sheriff runs the Maricopa County tent city for pink-clad inmates.  More than 2,000 prisoners live together in the tents without smokes, coffee, porn mags, movies and tv.  Meals actually cost less than 20 cents each. 

He has also instituted "Hard Knocks High", the only accredited high school in an American jail.  That, along with an anti-drug program has resulted in a high percentage of his inmates leaving jail without their addictions and few of them returning.

Must be the pink clothes.  I think I love that man.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

For more info, go here and click on the 'tent city' tab:
http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Jail_Facilities&mn=Our_Jails (http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Jail_Facilities&mn=Our_Jails)


They would need two of him in Satsuma.. one for the men and one for the ladies.. I can see how much the guys would hate that pink, but what color could he use on the females... "White???"


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 03:06:44 PM
Yikes........

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
SATSUMA ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM  - Booking#: 09-01989
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $504.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
843.15-1b FAILURE TO APPEAR  M F  $5,004.00   
        $61,056.00   


Good gosh, this is a slippery one!!!!!   ::MonkeyEek::   ::MonkeyShocked::

Hope they get everything done that's needing done, they may never see her again.  LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 03:15:43 PM
Wyks...I don't use the quote button in order to avoid stacks....We were told by a mod (?) a while back not to quote the whole article, but only what we were commenting on to avoid repeating/quoting the whole article, thus the huge stacks that we get at times...especially when pictures and diagrams are involved..thought I was doing the right thing...Actually it is easier just to hit the quote button than to cherry pick and copy what I am commenting on....xxxxx

Ah that's right, I do remember that.  What I got from it tho was to try an avoid the huge quote stacks, not to avoid using quote at all.  kwim?  I know what you're saying tho, some of those stacks got so huge I couldn't read them at all.  lol  What I try to do is judge it by amount of space, from one longish quote or up to about three shorter quotes.  The rest I tend to snip off before adding my comment.  Takes practice to get it right.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
Am sure the mods also appreciate attention to the amount of space used when we do quote.  Less scrolling and easier to read, and all that good stuff.  Thanks for the reply, Cookie!  I dunno why I have to be so dang nosy.  Am working on it, cuz my last name is not Kravitz.  heh   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 03:19:34 PM

Thank you to everyone for answering my question, That chad favors Misty to me..But everybody in Satsuma is beginning to look alike...could be the drugs they use. ::MonkeyConfused::

That is a very scary thought, that they will all start looking like short elevator, a whole town of short elevators, running around like robots, yelling " I don't Know"..  "ron was a work".  And cigarette's hanging at an angle from their mouth's.. You would have to call GramaMonkey in wearing her boots..  And Wyks parachuting in with her pointed toe boots..

 ::MonkeyLaugh::  Now there's a visual!!   ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
Gosh Grama,   that  scared me!!!!!!!!!!

Don't know why it got so darn big...wasn't like that when I copied it.  Uggggghhhhhhh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 15, 2009, 03:22:11 PM
Gosh Grama,   that  scared me!!!!!!!!!!

Don't know why it got so darn big...wasn't like that when I copied it.  Uggggghhhhhhh.
Oh it had nothing to do with size, it was the picture that was scarey, yep she's from Putnam alright!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 03:24:03 PM
Wyks, not to change the subject, or at least too far off subject.. 
Who is ron's brother?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 03:36:21 PM
Slow day for Putnam county jail . must not be anybody left to arrest .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 03:36:44 PM
Hi HH!  I totally agree with you!  Wonder if they even have enough room in the local jail if they brought all of em in?  Might have to stack em so high and wide in each cell, the ceiling and walls would bulge!   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

IMO, this would be a great time, if ever, for "America's toughest sheriff" to pay a lil visit to the Satsuma area.   ::MonkeyCool::  Sheriff Joe Arpaio from Phoenix AZ, can show LE in Florida how to run a jail.  heeeeeeeeeee

The good Sheriff runs the Maricopa County tent city for pink-clad inmates.  More than 2,000 prisoners live together in the tents without smokes, coffee, porn mags, movies and tv.  Meals actually cost less than 20 cents each. 

He has also instituted "Hard Knocks High", the only accredited high school in an American jail.  That, along with an anti-drug program has resulted in a high percentage of his inmates leaving jail without their addictions and few of them returning.

Must be the pink clothes.  I think I love that man.   ::MonkeyHaHa:: 

For more info, go here and click on the 'tent city' tab:
http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Jail_Facilities&mn=Our_Jails (http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetSubModule&sm=Jail_Facilities&mn=Our_Jails)


They would need two of him in Satsuma.. one for the men and one for the ladies.. I can see how much the guys would hate that pink, but what color could he use on the females... "White???"

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually it's pink for all inmates, male or female.  He started with pink boxers, cuz the inmates were stealing the white ones.  Then came the pink handcuffs.  When he learned later that pink has a calming effect, he dyed everything pink that the inmates use and wear, incl sheets and blankets, towels and washcloths, boxers and tshirts, handcuffs and socks.  The only thing inmates have that isn't pink are the old-fashioned black and white striped uniforms.   

He also puts his inmates, male and female, on the old-time "chain-gangs", working their butts off in the community, etc. 

Kudos to him!!  IMO
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 03:43:49 PM
Wyks, not to change the subject, or at least too far off subject.. 
Who is ron's brother?

There was a rumor early on that Gma Neves had three kids, that Ron had a bro and a sis.  Looks like that was just a rumor, cuz we've only heard from them about Ron and Crystal Cummings, his sis.  Am thinking at some point what happened was on a myspace or somewhere he had called a cousin or friend "bro".  And some folks on another forum/blog/site spun that out of control. 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 03:44:20 PM

 ::MonkeyHaHa::   ::MonkeyHaHa::

Actually it's pink for all inmates, male or female.  He started with pink boxers, cuz the inmates were stealing the white ones.  Then came the pink handcuffs.  When he learned later that pink has a calming effect, he dyed everything pink that the inmates use and wear, incl sheets and blankets, towels and washcloths, boxers and tshirts, handcuffs and socks.  The only thing inmates have that isn't pink are the old-fashioned black and white striped uniforms.   

He also puts his inmates, male and female, on the old-time "chain-gangs", working their butts off in the community, etc. 

Kudos to him!!  IMO
 

I agree..  I found you and Grama your super hero flying monkey.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 03:52:39 PM
Wyks, not to change the subject, or at least too far off subject.. 
Who is ron's brother?

There was a rumor early on that Gma Neves had three kids, that Ron had a bro and a sis.  Looks like that was just a rumor, cuz we've only heard from them about Ron and Crystal Cummings, his sis.  Am thinking at some point what happened was on a myspace or somewhere he had called a cousin or friend "bro".  And some folks on another forum/blog/site spun that out of control. 



Are you talking about the comment over on First Coast News, they don't like Ron to much with those comments  ::MonkeyRoll:: The one in the bar?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 03:57:10 PM
Here's the link to the comments and article   http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=137905


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
Wyks, not to change the subject, or at least too far off subject.. 
Who is ron's brother?

There was a rumor early on that Gma Neves had three kids, that Ron had a bro and a sis.  Looks like that was just a rumor, cuz we've only heard from them about Ron and Crystal Cummings, his sis.  Am thinking at some point what happened was on a myspace or somewhere he had called a cousin or friend "bro".  And some folks on another forum/blog/site spun that out of control. 



Are you talking about the comment over on First Coast News, they don't like Ron to much with those comments  ::MonkeyRoll:: The one in the bar?

No, I haven't read any of their postings.. I just heard a rumor that he had a brother.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 04:16:16 PM
A bit of info on Cathy Scott -

This data is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon for any type of legal action.

Jail history for the past 3 years
Search by Last Name: , First Name:   
Lastname Firstname Middle DOB S R Booking# Arrest Date
SCOTT  CATHY  LYNN  3/30/1963 F W  09-00622  2/7/2009 12:00:00 AM
SCOTT  CATHY  LYNN  3/30/1963 F W  09-01989  5/15/2009 9:09:48 AM

CATHY LYNN SCOTT
TAMPA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 2/7/2009 12:00:00 AM  - Booking#: 09-00622
Release Date & Time: 2/7/2009 12:00:00 AM
DOB: 3/30/1963 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
832.05-2 FRAUD-INSUFF FUNDS CHECK MAKE UTTER ISSUE 150 DOLS OR OVER F T  $504.00  2/7/2009 12:00:00 AM
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 04:43:10 PM
Father indicted in 4-year-old's murder
Prosecutors say they will seek the death penalty for Matthew Roland.


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090513/ARTICLES/905131008/1002?Title=Father-indicted-for-murder-of-4-year-old-Kristina

how awful!!! I am sick! what chance does a 4yr old have against a grown man? he was "getting into" spanking her>>>>just sick!
where was the mom? did I miss that? if this freak was given custody,what must the relatives be like?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 04:47:17 PM
possibly Hispanic.

Heart, Possible = it could be, does not mean it is..  The people who saw him, probably had a visual of him for about 15 to 30 seconds, before he was on the run.. You think they have this composite from a 4 year old?  This is from the adults who saw him running away. And the man is about 6 ft. Tall, but does not mean he isn't 5"11".  If they said he weighed about 250 lbs, does not mean he couldn't weigh 235 lbs. All the description given and a composite equals, The best guess they have from eye witness's.

Well mlee, imho, its better than posting someone's pic on the worldwide internet as a possible suspect or comparison.  The culprit could have resembled you or some of your relatives. How would you feel with you or yours pic being compared as the culprit in a crime?  Just saying!

I agree...especially when in my opinion...they don't look alike....jmo...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 04:47:21 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 15, 2009, 06:01:20 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html
Thanks gmonkey . Taking an extra look at those posters from now on


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 06:17:23 PM
Another one bites the dust:

KIMBERLY  NOWELLY  COOPER
Interlachen ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 5:22:17 PM  - Booking#: 09-01995
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/23/1985 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.13-6a   DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION   F   T    $1,004.00    
316.193-1   TRAFFIC OFFENSE DUI ALCOHOL OR DRUGS 1ST OFF   M   F    $504.00    
827.03-1b   CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD ACT THAT COULD RESULT IN PHYS MENTAL INJURY   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754116&IMG=52814


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 06:18:50 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

grams...those women and the gentleman who stopped and asked her if she was ok are probably monkeys from here!   ::MonkeyDance::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 06:23:20 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

Did you hear Mike Brooks and Kim Picazio going at it a little while ago on HLN?

Kim was talking about Ron taking away from the search or finding Haleigh by his wedding and marriage to Misty.

Mike was talking about the search and finding of Haleigh being hindered by Crystal and Picazio's endeavor for custody of Jr and Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 06:25:11 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

Did you hear Mike Brooks and Kim Picazio going at it a little while ago on HLN?

Kim was talking about Ron taking away from the search or finding Haleigh by his wedding and marriage to Misty.

Mike was talking about the search and finding of Haleigh being hindered by Crystal and Picazio's endeavor for custody of Jr and Haleigh.

Its currently playing again now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 06:27:02 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 06:30:45 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

Did you hear Mike Brooks and Kim Picazio going at it a little while ago on HLN?

Kim was talking about Ron taking away from the search or finding Haleigh by his wedding and marriage to Misty.

Mike was talking about the search and finding of Haleigh being hindered by Crystal and Picazio's endeavor for custody of Jr and Haleigh.

yep I was listening...I like that Mike Brooks..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 06:44:29 PM
Wyks, not to change the subject, or at least too far off subject.. 
Who is ron's brother?

There was a rumor early on that Gma Neves had three kids, that Ron had a bro and a sis.  Looks like that was just a rumor, cuz we've only heard from them about Ron and Crystal Cummings, his sis.  Am thinking at some point what happened was on a myspace or somewhere he had called a cousin or friend "bro".  And some folks on another forum/blog/site spun that out of control. 



Are you talking about the comment over on First Coast News, they don't like Ron to much with those comments  ::MonkeyRoll:: The one in the bar?

No, it was a rumor early on in the case, spurred on by a comment that Ron had written somewhere before Haleigh went missing, like on myspace or something like that.  Folks had evidently found him using the word bro and the rumor began that he had a brother.  Young adults sometimes call some close to them, 'bro'.  Doesn't mean he has an actual brother. 
   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 06:47:36 PM

I agree..  I found you and Grama your super hero flying monkey.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Have seen that, it's so cute! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 06:49:31 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

grams...those women and the gentleman who stopped and asked her if she was ok are probably monkeys from here!   ::MonkeyDance::



There are so many missing children it is so hard to keep every face in memory.  I know when I receive a statement in the mail, there are pics and info on the back of the envelopes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 06:51:50 PM

I agree..  I found you and Grama your super hero flying monkey.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Have seen that, it's so cute! 


I put it up for you and grama to grab copies of it.. will put it back up if need time to grab it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

Did you hear Mike Brooks and Kim Picazio going at it a little while ago on HLN?

Kim was talking about Ron taking away from the search or finding Haleigh by his wedding and marriage to Misty.

Mike was talking about the search and finding of Haleigh being hindered by Crystal and Picazio's endeavor for custody of Jr and Haleigh.

Yes, heart watched that show.   But the discussion did not go far enough for Kim to say why their was an investigation on,because of Jr. still being in the home where Haleigh had gone missing from and tha a 17 yr old was the babysitter. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 06:56:39 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.

It's weird to me that Ron didn't just drop Haleigh off at the bus stop that day, he was supposedly hell bent on getting her to school on time, the bus would have done that. 

Am wondering if because of Ron's upcoming charges at that time for all the unexused absences for Haleigh, if Ron had to actually sign Haleigh in himself at the school everyday by a certain time or something?  Heck I dunno.  Just seems there may have been some certain reason Ron needed to get Haleigh to school and in a fast hurry.  It would be nice if he or someone would just tell us.  LOL 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 06:57:07 PM
Haleigh Cummings' father pleads for more tips - Orlando Sentinel
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-video-plea-051509,0,4437960.story

Haleigh Cummings: Baby I Love You - Blogger News Network
http://www.bloggernews.net/120887

Dad Vows To Never Give Up On Haleigh
- News4Jax
http://www.news4jax.com/news/19464575/detail.html

Haleigh's Father Makes Online Plea for Hel
p - First Coast News
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=137905&catid=3

Haleigh’s father makes
new plea for help
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/051409haleighs_father_makes_new_plea

(http://media2.myfoxorlando.com//photo/2009/05/14/051409ron_cummings_20090514130934_320_240.JPG)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
Another one bites the dust:

KIMBERLY  NOWELLY  COOPER
Interlachen ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 5:22:17 PM  - Booking#: 09-01995
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/23/1985 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.13-6a   DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION   F   T    $1,004.00    
316.193-1   TRAFFIC OFFENSE DUI ALCOHOL OR DRUGS 1ST OFF   M   F    $504.00    
827.03-1b   CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD ACT THAT COULD RESULT IN PHYS MENTAL INJURY   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754116&IMG=52814


Ok I am going to say it again.....these girls all look related...she favors Amber a lot....jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 07:00:50 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.

It's weird to me that Ron didn't just drop Haleigh off at the bus stop that day, he was supposedly hell bent on getting her to school on time, the bus would have done that. 

Am wondering if because of Ron's upcoming charges at that time for all the unexused absences for Haleigh, if Ron had to actually sign Haleigh in himself at the school everyday by a certain time or something?  Heck I dunno.  Just seems there may have been some certain reason Ron needed to get Haleigh to school and in a fast hurry.  It would be nice if he or someone would just tell us.  LOL 


I thought his response's to the questions rather odd. And the man said he thought that he may have seen Haleigh in the vehicle, but he wasn't sure.  A thought, maybe the kids were still over at one of the Grandma's and ron had to go pick Haleigh up to take her to school... that would explain the hurry about getting Haleigh to school on time.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 07:01:41 PM

I agree..  I found you and Grama your super hero flying monkey.

 ::MonkeyHaHa::  Have seen that, it's so cute! 


I put it up for you and grama to grab copies of it.. will put it back up if need time to grab it.

I grabbed it back then, you might want to put it back up for those who didn't have a chance!   ::MonkeyCool::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 15, 2009, 07:08:47 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.

It's weird to me that Ron didn't just drop Haleigh off at the bus stop that day, he was supposedly hell bent on getting her to school on time, the bus would have done that. 

Am wondering if because of Ron's upcoming charges at that time for all the unexused absences for Haleigh, if Ron had to actually sign Haleigh in himself at the school everyday by a certain time or something?  Heck I dunno.  Just seems there may have been some certain reason Ron needed to get Haleigh to school and in a fast hurry.  It would be nice if he or someone would just tell us.  LOL 


I thought his response's to the questions rather odd. And the man said he thought that he may have seen Haleigh in the vehicle, but he wasn't sure.  A thought, maybe the kids were still over at one of the Grandma's and ron had to go pick Haleigh up to take her to school... that would explain the hurry about getting Haleigh to school on time.

Ahhhhh that could be it!!  I've heard that Ron's car windows are tinted, which would explain why the man wasn't sure if he had seen Haleigh inside or not.  But yes, the responses seemed odd to me too.  Like her shirt, she either spilled something on it or she didn't.  Not so sure what's so hard about remembering that.  I'd think he would know for sure if she had, otherwise why bring it up!  Just more drama, more to add to the mystery.  IMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 07:12:32 PM
Another one bites the dust:

KIMBERLY  NOWELLY  COOPER
Interlachen ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 5:22:17 PM  - Booking#: 09-01995
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/23/1985 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.13-6a   DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION   F   T    $1,004.00    
316.193-1   TRAFFIC OFFENSE DUI ALCOHOL OR DRUGS 1ST OFF   M   F    $504.00    
827.03-1b   CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD ACT THAT COULD RESULT IN PHYS MENTAL INJURY   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754116&IMG=52814


Ok I am going to say it again.....these girls all look related...she favors Amber a lot....jmo

You want to know a secret..  They all may well be...   we know that Amber and Crystal are related, if we pull the family lines, all of them may be cousins..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 07:15:53 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.

It's weird to me that Ron didn't just drop Haleigh off at the bus stop that day, he was supposedly hell bent on getting her to school on time, the bus would have done that. 

Am wondering if because of Ron's upcoming charges at that time for all the unexused absences for Haleigh, if Ron had to actually sign Haleigh in himself at the school everyday by a certain time or something?  Heck I dunno.  Just seems there may have been some certain reason Ron needed to get Haleigh to school and in a fast hurry.  It would be nice if he or someone would just tell us.  LOL 


I thought his response's to the questions rather odd. And the man said he thought that he may have seen Haleigh in the vehicle, but he wasn't sure.  A thought, maybe the kids were still over at one of the Grandma's and ron had to go pick Haleigh up to take her to school... that would explain the hurry about getting Haleigh to school on time.

Ahhhhh that could be it!!  I've heard that Ron's car windows are tinted, which would explain why the man wasn't sure if he had seen Haleigh inside or not.  But yes, the responses seemed odd to me too.  Like her shirt, she either spilled something on it or she didn't.  Not so sure what's so hard about remembering that.  I'd think he would know for sure if she had, otherwise why bring it up!  Just more drama, more to add to the mystery.  IMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::   


When people are trying to make something up on the spur of the moment, they have a tendency to add too much detail.. They are thinking it would add to believability, but it shows they are trying to over work the story.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 07:17:04 PM
VELEZ-MITCHELL: 5/14/09

Another bizarre twist in the search for 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, authorities continue their meticulous investigation into little Haleigh`s disappearance. But they do not believe they have a stranger abduction case on their hands.

Meantime -- get this -- just last night, in the wee hours of the morning, into this morning, and just 75 miles away from the Cummings` Satsuma, Florida home, an intensive kidnapping of a 4-year-old girl in Orlando and it was foiled by the little girl`s blood curdling scream.

This is the suspect believed to have broken into that Orlando home in an attempt to snatch that child. Her parents were jarred awake by their daughter`s screaming. Thank goodness those screams chased that man away. That young girl is ok tonight.

Now, you will remember that the teen bride of Haleigh`s dad, Misty Croslin, the last person to see little Haleigh -- she disappeared on Misty`s watch -- told cops she woke up to go to the bathroom and Haleigh was gone.

If that story is correct, it would appear little Haleigh who was reportedly terrified of the dark never screamed. Why didn`t little Haleigh scream? Are authorities right? Was her abductor somebody the child knew?

Haleigh`s dad, Ron Cummings, continues to plead for any tips that will lead to his daughter`s safe return.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: I want to ask you to just please, please keep looking. Keep going, just whatever you think, calling in, it doesn`t matter. Just keep looking. Thanks for everything you`ve done.

And Haleigh, if you`re watching, baby, I love you. And we`re still looking for you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Meantime, do cops have a drug dealer informant helping them chase down leads in this case?

I`m joined now by investigator journalist Art Harris from the Web site Artharris.com, "The Bald Truth," an excellent site. Art has been covering this case from the very start.

Art, what is the latest with this convicted drug dealer? The cast of characters in this story is something that...

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: It`s a pop...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: ...a Pulitzer prize-winning author could not come up with.

HARRIS: The pop sub-culture of crime in America...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.

HARRIS: ...Jane. And this guy is Jerome Williams (ph) 37 years old. A convicted felon who`s had a number of drug convictions, served his time in prison. Suddenly he`s out and under his thumb are two of the young women who are close to Misty and the family. There is "Nay Nay" Kristina Prevatt who drove Misty on her last weekend...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But who is this guy? Let me ask you this guy?

HARRIS: This guy, Jerome Williams, is someone who bonded the two girls out of jail. And they were living with him.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And he`s a guy who thinks he can help out because he`s got a lot of connections in the drug world?

HARRIS: I talked to him last week, Kim Picazio, Sheffield -- Crystal Sheffield`s lawyer talked to him. Suddenly he was thinking, "Gosh, maybe I can change my life -- turn my life around. And I can dig into, you know, the people I know on the street. I may be able to find some of the drug dealers who actually knew Misty and others close to the family."

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And why would he do that? What would he get out of it?

HARRIS: He would get possible immunity. He would get a $35,000 reward and faces multiple drug trafficking charges. He`s behind bars, arrested this week again. And no bond this time for cocaine possession, illegal substance.

So he needed a deal. Cops were actually upbeat thinking that if anybody could get into the naked underbelly of Putnam County, it could be him. But they are very disappointed, Jane, because his leads turned out to be a bust.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, the cast of characters in this case, is to put it mildly, confusing. And we will try to break it down. And I hope you have a notepad.

There is Misty Croslin, she was with Haleigh, the night she went missing and later married Haleigh`s dad Ron which some feel is very odd. Misty was partying with another woman, "Nay Nay" -- there is "Nay Nay" the weekend before Haleigh went missing. And Misty was fighting with another woman, Amber Brooks. Ok, there s Amber Brooks, Amber is reportedly the mother of one of Ron Cummings` other children, Jordan.

Now, both "Nay Nay" and Amber have been hanging around with the man we just talked about, Jerome Williams, the convicted drug dealer who allegedly has links to two convicted child predators and was trying to use his sources to find Haleigh.

What are cops saying about all these connections and what about the child predators?

HARRIS: Well, they are trying to keep the focus on what they know and that`s a missing time line. A lot of gaps in what Misty Croslin says happened that night.

As for the child predators, Jane, there are 247 registered sex offenders in Putnam County, and they say they have looked at the ankle bracelet reports, the GPS, you know, logs, and none of them were near the trailer that night.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And I have ten seconds. Why do you think Ron is standing by Misty, if Misty`s stories, according to cops, are filled with inconsistencies?

HARRIS: Well Jane, he`s told me, he`s told others, he loves the girl and can`t explain some of her behavior. But, you know, they`re in it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right.

HARRIS: And they`re -- through thick or thin.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Art, we want to keep you coming back updating this story. We want to find this little girl alive.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/14/ijvm.01.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 07:51:07 PM
Putnam County Sheriff's Office
Warrants Section

PREVATT,JULIE DAWN    W   F   5/17/1973   PROBATION VIOLATION
http://public.pcso.us/pubwarrants/warrants_srch_s.aspx

JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT

Booking Date & Time: 4/13/2007 10:19:44 PM  - Booking#: 200700000781
Release Date & Time: 4/13/2007 10:19:32 PM
DOB: 5/15/1976 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06    VIOL DRUG OFF PROB- CT1- ATTEMPTED POSSESSION OF COCAINE    F       $0.00    
                $0.00    



JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
Welaka ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 12/13/2006 9:58:07 AM  - Booking#: 200600005482
Release Date & Time: 12/13/2006 9:57:54 AM
DOB: 5/15/1976 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F

Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
832.05-2a    VOLUSIA CO WRT-FTA WORTHLESS CHECK-3 CHARGES    M   1    $900.00    
893.13-6a    POSSESSION OF COCAINE    F       $1,004.00    
893.147-1    POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA    M       $504.00    
                $2,408.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/history.aspx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 15, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
Missing Child Experiment - How many of us are guilty of these same actions??

http://www.news4jax.com/video/19468025/index.html

That was definately an eye opener for sure!
Thank you for sharing that link Grama.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 08:06:51 PM
Another one bites the dust:

KIMBERLY  NOWELLY  COOPER
Interlachen ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 5:22:17 PM  - Booking#: 09-01995
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/23/1985 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.13-6a   DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION   F   T    $1,004.00    
316.193-1   TRAFFIC OFFENSE DUI ALCOHOL OR DRUGS 1ST OFF   M   F    $504.00    
827.03-1b   CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD ACT THAT COULD RESULT IN PHYS MENTAL INJURY   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754116&IMG=52814


Ok I am going to say it again.....these girls all look related...she favors Amber a lot....jmo
This girl and Amber do look very much alike  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
Police Reports
l to The Record  |   Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 ; Updated: 1:10 AM on Friday, May 15, 2009
JAIL LOG

* Who: Williams, Jerome Raymond, 37, N/A Charge: Trafficking in drugs, selling cocaine, possession of cocaine, dealing in stolen property, possession of cocaine with intent to sell, possession of opium with intent to sell, keeping shop or vehicle for drugs, possession of drug without prescription, possession of narcotics equipment, possession of prescription drugs with intention to sell, (Putnam County Sheriff's Office)

http://www.staugustine.com/stories/051509/police_051509_059.shtml


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 08:26:53 PM
Another one bites the dust:

KIMBERLY  NOWELLY  COOPER
Interlachen ,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 5:22:17 PM  - Booking#: 09-01995
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 8/23/1985 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
893.13-6a   DRUGS-POSSESS CNTRL SUB WO PRESCRIPTION   F   T    $1,004.00    
316.193-1   TRAFFIC OFFENSE DUI ALCOHOL OR DRUGS 1ST OFF   M   F    $504.00    
827.03-1b   CRUELTY TOWARD CHILD ACT THAT COULD RESULT IN PHYS MENTAL INJURY   F   T    $1,004.00    
                $2,512.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754116&IMG=52814


Ok I am going to say it again.....these girls all look related...she favors Amber a lot....jmo
This girl and Amber do look very much alike  ::MonkeyEek::

Its the weekend yall!

The William boys are at it again  ::MonkeyHaHa::

I wonder who the whipee/s are in all these battery cases, assuming that the whiper/s are the Williams.  ::MonkeyEek::

JIMMIE  LEE  WILLIAMS
PALATKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/15/2009 7:20:08 PM  - Booking#: 09-01537
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 7/4/1978 -  RACE: B  -  SEX: M
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
784.03-1a1   BATTERY TOUCH OR STRIKE   M   F    $0.00    
                $0.00

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=753512&IMG=55404   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 08:29:01 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 15, 2009, 08:43:32 PM
Did we ever get a thread set up for Cobra so we can post questions and see if he will read and reply? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 08:48:23 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose, this Jerry Santos, Art says that he was a neighbor to Ronald.  Do you know if we have an address for this Santos?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 15, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
Most brothers are very protective of their lil sisters and I was just wondering does anyone think that it is strange that we have not heard from either of Mistys brothers....you would think that if she saw the backdoor open she would assume an intruder could be in the house....might not call LE cuz of stuff in the house but you think that she would have called her brother and dad to come check it out since they were so close and then Ron?  JMO ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 08:50:10 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose, this Jerry Santos, Art says that he was a neighbor to Ronald.  Do you know if we have an address for this Santos?
I don't recall seeing an address.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 08:52:09 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This just amazes me in and out just like its no big deal,what about doing some jail time.....In my town if you pass gas you will be locked up for disturbing the peace ::MonkeyTongue::.....Satsuma do as you please. : ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
Most brothers are very protective of their lil sisters and I was just wondering does anyone think that it is strange that we have not heard from either of Mistys brothers....you would think that if she saw the backdoor open she would assume an intruder could be in the house....might not call LE cuz of stuff in the house but you think that she would have called her brother and dad to come check it out since they were so close and then Ron?  JMO ::MonkeyConfused::
I've been wondering about that too, I find it very odd also, that we haven't heard much at all about her brothers, especially the one that lived so close.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 15, 2009, 08:54:21 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This just amazes me in and out just like its no big deal,what about doing some jail time.....In my town if you pass gas you will be locked up for disturbing the peace ::MonkeyTongue::.....Satsuma do as you please. : ::MonkeyShocked::
I'm guessing they don't give much jail time, because if they did they would have to build on to the jail, because there would never be enough room.  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 08:55:54 PM
Most brothers are very protective of their lil sisters and I was just wondering does anyone think that it is strange that we have not heard from either of Mistys brothers....you would think that if she saw the backdoor open she would assume an intruder could be in the house....might not call LE cuz of stuff in the house but you think that she would have called her brother and dad to come check it out since they were so close and then Ron?  JMO ::MonkeyConfused::
I've been wondering about that too, I find it very odd also, that we haven't heard much at all about her brothers, especially the one that lived so close.

I would imagine they know how Misty is and do not want to get caught up in this mess....smart for them to stay far, far, away...jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 15, 2009, 08:58:34 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

This just amazes me in and out just like its no big deal,what about doing some jail time.....In my town if you pass gas you will be locked up for disturbing the peace ::MonkeyTongue::.....Satsuma do as you please. : ::MonkeyShocked::
I'm guessing they don't give much jail time, because if they did they would have to build on to the jail, because there would never be enough room.  ::MonkeyRoll::
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I know its a small town but really is there anyone left that has not been arrested...oh yea,Misty and Ron  ::MonkeyDevil::::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 15, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Most brothers are very protective of their lil sisters and I was just wondering does anyone think that it is strange that we have not heard from either of Mistys brothers....you would think that if she saw the backdoor open she would assume an intruder could be in the house....might not call LE cuz of stuff in the house but you think that she would have called her brother and dad to come check it out since they were so close and then Ron?  JMO ::MonkeyConfused::
I've been wondering about that too, I find it very odd also, that we haven't heard much at all about her brothers, especially the one that lived so close.

I would imagine they know how Misty is and do not want to get caught up in this mess....smart for them to stay far, far, away...jmo

that was exactly what I thought but wanted to see if anyone else felt the same.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 09:14:07 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose, this Jerry Santos, Art says that he was a neighbor to Ronald.  Do you know if we have an address for this Santos?

I tried thru white pages, and do not pick up a specific address.  There is one for another, but it is on the othe side of the tracks, past Buffalo Bluff...maybe his father's place.   He had to live closeby, for the kids to ride the same bus. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 15, 2009, 09:15:19 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

The booking number 01537 appears out of sequence for a new charge.  This must be something from few months prior.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 15, 2009, 09:26:04 PM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose, this Jerry Santos, Art says that he was a neighbor to Ronald.  Do you know if we have an address for this Santos?

I tried thru white pages, and do not pick up a specific address.  There is one for another, but it is on the othe side of the tracks, past Buffalo Bluff...maybe his father's place.   He had to live closeby, for the kids to ride the same bus. 

Grama, if he or his Father that must reside with him, works for child's services, they are probably unlisted...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 15, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.

It's weird to me that Ron didn't just drop Haleigh off at the bus stop that day, he was supposedly hell bent on getting her to school on time, the bus would have done that. 

Am wondering if because of Ron's upcoming charges at that time for all the unexused absences for Haleigh, if Ron had to actually sign Haleigh in himself at the school everyday by a certain time or something?  Heck I dunno.  Just seems there may have been some certain reason Ron needed to get Haleigh to school and in a fast hurry.  It would be nice if he or someone would just tell us.  LOL 


I thought his response's to the questions rather odd. And the man said he thought that he may have seen Haleigh in the vehicle, but he wasn't sure.  A thought, maybe the kids were still over at one of the Grandma's and ron had to go pick Haleigh up to take her to school... that would explain the hurry about getting Haleigh to school on time.

Maybe we can check the absentee card Brandi posted to see if Haleigh was late for school..  But if the parents were waiting @ the bus stop how long does it take to get to GGranny's house in Welaka and then bring Haleigh to school...? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 15, 2009, 10:18:19 PM
There is a Jerry Santos aka Gerald Santos that live in Satsuma age 38...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 15, 2009, 10:20:30 PM
Aslo I check property search records for a Jerry or Gerald Santos and no home in his name...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 11:11:12 PM
Art's new Blog is out.. it has a few very interesting points. And one that is very odd.
http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#more-2023

When ron was ask why he was driving so erratically that last morning that Haleigh was heading for school.. ron's response was, "Haleigh was missing".  the man said to him, no ron not the morning after Haleigh went missing. The morning prior, ron responded that Haleigh must have spilled something on her shirt, and was late for school..  although the school bus had not yet arrived to pick up the other children.

It's weird to me that Ron didn't just drop Haleigh off at the bus stop that day, he was supposedly hell bent on getting her to school on time, the bus would have done that. 

Am wondering if because of Ron's upcoming charges at that time for all the unexused absences for Haleigh, if Ron had to actually sign Haleigh in himself at the school everyday by a certain time or something?  Heck I dunno.  Just seems there may have been some certain reason Ron needed to get Haleigh to school and in a fast hurry.  It would be nice if he or someone would just tell us.  LOL 


I thought his response's to the questions rather odd. And the man said he thought that he may have seen Haleigh in the vehicle, but he wasn't sure.  A thought, maybe the kids were still over at one of the Grandma's and ron had to go pick Haleigh up to take her to school... that would explain the hurry about getting Haleigh to school on time.

Maybe we can check the absentee card Brandi posted to see if Haleigh was late for school..  But if the parents were waiting @ the bus stop how long does it take to get to GGranny's house in Welaka and then bring Haleigh to school...? ::MonkeyTongue::

Haleigh's Absentee School Records
http://www.artharris.com/docs/haleigh-absent.pdf


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 11:12:28 PM
There is a Jerry Santos aka Gerald Santos that live in Satsuma age 38...

Thanks Jerseygirl!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 15, 2009, 11:22:30 PM
nite monkees! see you all in the morning...
again, as every night, hope that Haleigh is found ....bless her little heart...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 11:31:47 PM
nite monkees! see you all in the morning...
again, as every night, hope that Haleigh is found ....bless her little heart...

Goodnight cookie!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 15, 2009, 11:51:12 PM
Just looking at words that were spoken and things that happened in the beginning of this case.

Feb 13, 2009
Investigators found "items of interest" in the dense woods surrounding the home of a missing Florida girl in a "productive day" of searching. Hundreds of volunteers swarmed the area Friday but found no sign of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings.

"I can say we did discover some items of interest. I can't go into detail as to what those items were or are," said Major Steve Rose of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, who would not comment how the items were being handled for fear of revealing what they are.


"I locked doors before I left for work. My child cannot unlock the deadbolt, you have to force the door shut all the way ... and she doesn’t open the door to strangers," Cummings said.

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:oU1Bf3AbdTEJ:www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/39599397.html+dfs+putnam+county&cd=23&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 16, 2009, 12:56:33 AM
It sure seems this is a way of life for many people, in and out of jail, I just can't comprehend this. It's like they have just given up, and they are way to young to give up  ::MonkeyNoNo::

no rose, this Jerry Santos, Art says that he was a neighbor to Ronald.  Do you know if we have an address for this Santos?

I tried thru white pages, and do not pick up a specific address.  There is one for another, but it is on the othe side of the tracks, past Buffalo Bluff...maybe his father's place.   He had to live closeby, for the kids to ride the same bus. 

I'm about to call it a night, but sometimes you can find a number on white pages by doing a reverse address search and pick a address that is close by off the map, then keep trying until you find one that has a phone, then click find neighbors.  Sometimes you can even find out who has a private number that way because it will list the name and address but no number.  I think it will list all people on that specific road/street that has a phone.  Good luck.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 16, 2009, 01:48:44 AM
Mlee?  have you looked at your pink monkey thru squinted eyes?  um.  maybe it's just me...?
:::trying really hard not to giggle::: it's probably just me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Wyks on May 16, 2009, 03:03:52 AM

Ahhhhh that could be it!!  I've heard that Ron's car windows are tinted, which would explain why the man wasn't sure if he had seen Haleigh inside or not.  But yes, the responses seemed odd to me too.  Like her shirt, she either spilled something on it or she didn't.  Not so sure what's so hard about remembering that.  I'd think he would know for sure if she had, otherwise why bring it up!  Just more drama, more to add to the mystery.  IMO  ::MonkeyNoNo::   


When people are trying to make something up on the spur of the moment, they have a tendency to add too much detail.. They are thinking it would add to believability, but it shows they are trying to over work the story.

Good point, mlee!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 06:57:49 AM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 08:14:31 AM
Morning all...
does anyone remember the last time that Misty was seen out and about? seems as if we have not caught a glimpse of anyone down there lately...Most of the camera crews are gone, but Art and TJ Hart are still about...have they not seen any of the relatives? have any of them gone back to work? Teresa, Marie, Chad etc? not sure if anyone else works in that crowd....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 08:16:05 AM
We were discussing composite pics yesterday.  They arrested the rapist..check out www.orlandosentinel.com  His photo is up, plus a composite of him.

I don't think they look anything alike.   While your on that site, there is an article of a sex offender that is freed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 08:19:27 AM
We were discussing composite pics yesterday.  They arrested the rapist..check out www.orlandosentinel.com  His photo is up, plus a composite of him.

I don't think they look anything alike.   While your on that site, there is an article of a sex offender that is freed.

errrrr...they don't look anything alike!  ::MonkeyConfused::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 08:28:32 AM

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

The following is just below the video.....

In the meanwhile, Christina "Nay Nay" Prevatt was taken off suicide watch and later released from the Putnam County Jail on a bond from Chuck's Bail Bonds. That bond was secured by Daniel Bass, the owner of the alleged crack house/whore house you just saw in the video.  Bass is a registered child sex offender....and so is Chuck, Charles Ingram, of Chuck's Bail Bonds.  The once-jailed former Palatka police officer transfered the ownership of his operation to his wife, but he still participates in the business.

I don't ever remember reading that Chuck was ALSO a sex offender, nor that he was also a former police officer. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 08:39:36 AM

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

The following is just below the video.....

In the meanwhile, Christina "Nay Nay" Prevatt was taken off suicide watch and later released from the Putnam County Jail on a bond from Chuck's Bail Bonds. That bond was secured by Daniel Bass, the owner of the alleged crack house/whore house you just saw in the video.  Bass is a registered child sex offender....and so is Chuck, Charles Ingram, of Chuck's Bail Bonds.  The once-jailed former Palatka police officer transfered the ownership of his operation to his wife, but he still participates in the business.

I don't ever remember reading that Chuck was ALSO a sex offender, nor that he was also a former police officer. 

grams....it was a few pages back I think....someone had supplied the link and also his slimeball picture


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
I remember seeing his slimeball pic, Cookie, but guess it didn't register that he WAS ALSO....guess I was thinking all the time that their was ONLY ONE S/O involved with this case. 

But a police officer?????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 09:08:32 AM
I remember seeing his slimeball pic, Cookie, but guess it didn't register that he WAS ALSO....guess I was thinking all the time that their was ONLY ONE S/O involved with this case. 

But a police officer?????

agree...I had not heard or read that he was a police officer either....
He is a s/o though...he put the bailbondsman business in wife's name and she drove him around...since he is a felon he can't have the business in his name...I think that is what/how I read it..
why would she even stay with him knowing he molested a child??? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 09:33:56 AM
We were discussing composite pics yesterday.  They arrested the rapist..check out www.orlandosentinel.com  His photo is up, plus a composite of him.

I don't think they look anything alike.   While your on that site, there is an article of a sex offender that is freed.

errrrr...they don't look anything alike!  ::MonkeyConfused::



Well, it really does.. and it is a good composite of the man.  Did you expect composites to look like actual photographs of people.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 09:41:31 AM

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4014463.php

The following is just below the video.....

In the meanwhile, Christina "Nay Nay" Prevatt was taken off suicide watch and later released from the Putnam County Jail on a bond from Chuck's Bail Bonds. That bond was secured by Daniel Bass, the owner of the alleged crack house/whore house you just saw in the video.  Bass is a registered child sex offender....and so is Chuck, Charles Ingram, of Chuck's Bail Bonds.  The once-jailed former Palatka police officer transfered the ownership of his operation to his wife, but he still participates in the business.

I don't ever remember reading that Chuck was ALSO a sex offender, nor that he was also a former police officer. 

Yes, mam.. I had read that and also that he was an ex cop..... sure did.  makes him a fine person huh..  Did you read the stories of how he allows his wife to drive when posting bonds and fill out the paper work.. but he also runs his mouth and acts as though he is in charge.. 

And Cookie.. welcome to the real world.. where women are stupid enought to stay with men that beat them, beat their children, rape their children, and rape and harm other peoples children..  And the wives stay, and make excuses for the men in their lives.  much like we see in the Haleigh gone missing cases..  Women making excuses for ron, and he is such a fine young man, who would never do drugs, never be abusive, all such lies.  He is such a good father.. Such a good man, and his choice in babysitters is not his fault.. and its not his fault he hires a 16 year old girl who does drugs,  and he beds her, and then weds her... And in the midst of all of his good decisions,  Little Haleigh disappears..  And no one knows anything.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 09:45:25 AM
We were discussing composite pics yesterday.  They arrested the rapist..check out www.orlandosentinel.com  His photo is up, plus a composite of him.

I don't think they look anything alike.   While your on that site, there is an article of a sex offender that is freed.

errrrr...they don't look anything alike!  ::MonkeyConfused::



Well, it really does.. and it is a good composite of the man.  Did you expect composites to look like actual photographs of people.. 

are you kidding me??? did you see the article that Gram supplied and you really think that these 2 people look alike? 
I don't expect composites to look like actual photographs of course not....but I expect the composite to look like the person that the LE/public would be looking for.... why bother?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JessStar on May 16, 2009, 09:47:12 AM
I remember seeing his slimeball pic, Cookie, but guess it didn't register that he WAS ALSO....guess I was thinking all the time that their was ONLY ONE S/O involved with this case. 

But a police officer?????

agree...I had not heard or read that he was a police officer either....
He is a s/o though...he put the bailbondsman business in wife's name and she drove him around...since he is a felon he can't have the business in his name...I think that is what/how I read it..
why would she even stay with him knowing he molested a child??? 

Cookie, inexplicable, isn't it?  There's a registered child SO that lives about 10 miles from my home with his wife and 11 year old daughter.  He received 10 years probation for molesting a 9 year old girl.  His wife has always stood by him, even though he admitted his crime and plead guilty.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 09:55:28 AM
I remember seeing his slimeball pic, Cookie, but guess it didn't register that he WAS ALSO....guess I was thinking all the time that their was ONLY ONE S/O involved with this case. 

But a police officer?????

agree...I had not heard or read that he was a police officer either....
He is a s/o though...he put the bailbondsman business in wife's name and she drove him around...since he is a felon he can't have the business in his name...I think that is what/how I read it..
why would she even stay with him knowing he molested a child??? 

Cookie, inexplicable, isn't it?  There's a registered child SO that lives about 10 miles from my home with his wife and 11 year old daughter.  He received 10 years probation for molesting a 9 year old girl.  His wife has always stood by him, even though he admitted his crime and plead guilty.




Hey Jess....
it boggles the mind...

and Mlee...I am in the real world....I know that it happens everyday that women stay with men who abuse...
I don't live in a bubble...



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 10:06:38 AM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 10:08:56 AM
thanks Rosie for the info on Geraldo show..
I will have to watch the last episode of Desperate Housewives so I will have to dvr it...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 10:12:09 AM
thanks Rosie for the info on Geraldo show..
I will have to watch the last episode of Desperate Housewives so I will have to dvr it...
I don't know what new things they could say, but then I got to thinking that tomorrow is that national vigil that they will be at and so will the Anthonys.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 10:17:06 AM
I just saw this  ::MonkeyEek::   Body found near Millenia
Mall
Updated: Friday, 15 May 2009, 11:36 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 15 May 2009, 11:08 PM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The Orange County Sheriff's Office is investigating a body which was discovered near the Millenia Mall in South Orlando. Dive teams are assisting investigators.

The body was found in Shingle Creek which runs along the southwest side of the mall. Neither the gender, nor the race have been released.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 10:19:11 AM
thanks Rosie for the info on Geraldo show..
I will have to watch the last episode of Desperate Housewives so I will have to dvr it...
I don't know what new things they could say, but then I got to thinking that tomorrow is that national vigil that they will be at and so will the Anthonys.

Yuk...the Anthony's....

o/t I dvr ed...Farrah's story  (Farrah Fawcett) last night and I am watching it now ....very sad for her...and her family...things don't sound very good for her...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 10:20:55 AM
I just saw this  ::MonkeyEek::   Body found near Millenia
Mall
Updated: Friday, 15 May 2009, 11:36 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 15 May 2009, 11:08 PM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The Orange County Sheriff's Office is investigating a body which was discovered near the Millenia Mall in South Orlando. Dive teams are assisting investigators.

The body was found in Shingle Creek which runs along the southwest side of the mall. Neither the gender, nor the race have been released.


Yikes!
also, I put an article on Briant's thread...they also found a little boys body near NM.....unidentified....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 10:30:04 AM
I just saw this  ::MonkeyEek::   Body found near Millenia
Mall
Updated: Friday, 15 May 2009, 11:36 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 15 May 2009, 11:08 PM EDT

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The Orange County Sheriff's Office is investigating a body which was discovered near the Millenia Mall in South Orlando. Dive teams are assisting investigators.

The body was found in Shingle Creek which runs along the southwest side of the mall. Neither the gender, nor the race have been released.


Yikes!
also, I put an article on Briant's thread...they also found a little boys body near NM.....unidentified....
Thanks, oh no  ::MonkeyWaa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 10:33:14 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 10:43:42 AM
Rosie..I would hope that it is not true either...
if that is the case, someone should have stepped in at the clinic and called the child protective services...especially with an investigation of this child going on...slapping a child in that way is unacceptable in my opinion...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 10:48:24 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 10:51:12 AM
Rosie..I would hope that it is not true either...
if that is the case, someone should have stepped in at the clinic and called the child protective services...especially with an investigation of this child going on...slapping a child in that way is unacceptable in my opinion...

Cookie...sounds as if someone DID...

LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 10:58:13 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 10:58:15 AM
Rosie..I would hope that it is not true either...
if that is the case, someone should have stepped in at the clinic and called the child protective services...especially with an investigation of this child going on...slapping a child in that way is unacceptable in my opinion...

Cookie...sounds as if someone DID...

LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR  

good! that makes my blood boil..what will they do to Misty if it is true?
Will Ron get the picture now and divorce this girl??? grrrrrr...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 11:04:33 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 11:06:12 AM
Little boy from NM was found in a playground, buried in the sand in Albuquerque, appears at this time prior to autopsy that he has been dead and buried about 48 hours.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkNyDpeAZfx9vskglAZhOrZAYakQD98782LO0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
Little boy from NM was found in a playground, buried in the sand in Albuquerque, appears at this time prior to autopsy that he has been dead and buried about 48 hours.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkNyDpeAZfx9vskglAZhOrZAYakQD98782LO0

mlee...I posted this over in the thread for Briant....this does not look good...could be him...
regardless...it is someone's little boy...so sad..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 11:08:45 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Hello.... What are the limitations set


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 11:09:06 AM
Little boy from NM was found in a playground, buried in the sand in Albuquerque, appears at this time prior to autopsy that he has been dead and buried about 48 hours.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkNyDpeAZfx9vskglAZhOrZAYakQD98782LO0
Horrible  ::MonkeyEek::  I don't know if anyone else was at the clinic with Misty, or why Ron Jr was at the clinic.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 11:09:22 AM
^^^ are they saying now that this child is from NM? I thought that they did not know who the child was so how would they know where he is from?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 11:12:27 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::




What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Hello.... What are the limitations set

hello...why don't you tell us? I am sure that you would know...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 11:19:50 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Misty may have been very cautious around the grandmas, and if that is the case, you would think that she would continue to watch her actions in the presence of others as well. Maybe now, they will see the real MISTY.

So sad for Jr.....t


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 11:20:10 AM
Little boy from NM was found in a playground, buried in the sand in Albuquerque, appears at this time prior to autopsy that he has been dead and buried about 48 hours.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkNyDpeAZfx9vskglAZhOrZAYakQD98782LO0

mlee...I posted this over in the thread for Briant....this does not look good...could be him...
regardless...it is someone's little boy...so sad..

Cookie it is very possible that it is the little boy that was kidnapped..  But, right now the Albuqueque PD is looking at the local area, which is heavy in housing around Alvarado Park.. They gave a description of the child's clothing.  The boy was wearing a red shirt with the image of a four-wheel drive truck on the front, black nylon pants with red stripes and black shoes.  I will have to look up the clothing description for the abducted child, may have changed his clothes, but his shoe color should remain the same. Also, the estimated age grouping is 3 to 5, which matches...  Trust me, Albuquerque PD is fast and furious, if it is the other little boy, we will know in short order.

Now this is a wild thought, the guys that broke into that home, they have composites out right?  Carnavals travel, and we have a child buried 48 hours ago, and about 48 hours ago a little girl was taken in Texas and they found her with the abductor within 24 hours, but the guy was a carnie worker.  It is not uncommon for predators to work in teams..  I bet we can find a list somewhere that puts a carnaval in the boys community, then in Albuquerque, and then in Texas.. They only stay in one location about 3 to 5 days.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 11:27:57 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Misty may have been very cautious around the grandmas, and if that is the case, you would think that she would continue to watch her actions in the presence of others as well. Maybe now, they will see the real MISTY.

So sad for Jr.....t

that is my thoughts...she would probably be cautious around others, especially the grannys...that is why I don't think that the grannys can be responsible for setting any limitations, obviously, if they are not witness to any of Misty's shenanigans....jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 11:49:51 AM
Misty isn't the smartest, but even for her to slap a child in public seems strange, you would think she would be on her best behavior. If this is true I would like to know who else in the family was with her and Jr. I thought Misty didn't have a driver's license? And again, because of all the happenings with Haleigh missing and custody, you would think someone would tell her not to drive  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 11:51:03 AM
First of all, you do not slap a child along side of the head.

Ummm...what could little Ron Jr. do that was so bad, that he deserved a slap like that??? 

Ummm...maybe he let loose and told her exactly what he thought of her being his...step mom.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 11:55:08 AM
First of all, you do not slap a child along side of the head.

Ummm...what could little Ron Jr. do that was so bad, that he deserved a slap like that??? 

Ummm...maybe he let loose and told her exactly what he thought of her being his...step mom.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 
I can imagine what he must think, he must hear quite a bit from the grown ups  ::MonkeyEek:: If that is true about her and Ron having that fight a couple days before this incident, maybe she was taking her anger out on Jr? I'm not making excuses, I'm just trying to figure what happened, maybe he was being defient with her? Maybe he wanted his coloring book back, and Misty got mad ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 12:13:50 PM
First of all, you do not slap a child along side of the head.

Ummm...what could little Ron Jr. do that was so bad, that he deserved a slap like that??? 

Ummm...maybe he let loose and told her exactly what he thought of her being his...step mom.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 
I can imagine what he must think, he must hear quite a bit from the grown ups  ::MonkeyEek:: If that is true about her and Ron having that fight a couple days before this incident, maybe she was taking her anger out on Jr? I'm not making excuses, I'm just trying to figure what happened, maybe he was being defient with her? Maybe he wanted his coloring book back, and Misty got mad ::MonkeyRoll::

NRCG ~  There are sooooo many cases of women finding guys on the internet and they connect together.  He becomes the abuser, as most of them do not have any children of their own, however, they take up with a woman that is mosly looking for a keeper.  Who suffers, is the child.  The so called father to be figure takes his anger out on the child and abuses them. 

Riley Ann Sawyers was one case, the child that was thrown out of the vehilce in TX left in with his carset nearby, lying dead along the road.  Both of these cases were internet connections by the mother, and teamed up with a childless male.

I am not saying Ron and Misty were  internet connections, but ALL people are not cut out to be caregivers or raise children.  Maybe Misty IS following the actions of Ron.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 12:17:45 PM
First of all, you do not slap a child along side of the head.

Ummm...what could little Ron Jr. do that was so bad, that he deserved a slap like that??? 

Ummm...maybe he let loose and told her exactly what he thought of her being his...step mom.   ::MonkeyLaugh::

 
I can imagine what he must think, he must hear quite a bit from the grown ups  ::MonkeyEek:: If that is true about her and Ron having that fight a couple days before this incident, maybe she was taking her anger out on Jr? I'm not making excuses, I'm just trying to figure what happened, maybe he was being defient with her? Maybe he wanted his coloring book back, and Misty got mad ::MonkeyRoll::

NRCG ~  There are sooooo many cases of women finding guys on the internet and they connect together.  He becomes the abuser, as most of them do not have any children of their own, however, they take up with a woman that is mosly looking for a keeper.  Who suffers, is the child.  The so called father to be figure takes his anger out on the child and abuses them. 

Riley Ann Sawyers was one case, the child that was thrown out of the vehilce in TX left in with his carset nearby, lying dead along the road.  Both of these cases were internet connections by the mother, and teamed up with a childless male.

I am not saying Ron and Misty were  internet connections, but ALL people are not cut out to be caregivers or raise children.  Maybe Misty IS following the actions of Ron.....
I agree, and not only that, I have a feeling that Misty has had many slaps to the head and other parts of her body as well. To her maybe this is normal? This is maybe how Misty was also raised? I can't help but feel some sympathy for Misty, used and abused, with no where else to go?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 12:40:20 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 12:50:49 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.

I was just discussing this with someone this Am in my home.  Yes, have to have some sympathy for Misty, however, there are agencies that she can contact, and if she doesn't know of them I am sure there is someone that can help her make contact to get herself straightened out and get the help that she needs.  I know some kids do not know what it is like to live in a love filled home, but if they get the straight arrow pointing in the right direction, they can get themselves the help they need, if they wanted to.  It may take some time, I have no idea, but it would be worth the attempt instead of leading a life filled with drugs and abuse.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 12:53:26 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.

Rosie...they don't know any better...they have to break the cycle that they have lived all of these generations..I feel most sorry for the little children...adults have choices...these babies do not...sadly..
And no one should get mad because you are expressing your feelings...they might think that you are a bit wacky...<< just teasing>>> but no one should be mad about it..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 12:55:46 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.

I was just discussing this with someone this Am in my home.  Yes, have to have some sympathy for Misty, however, there are agencies that she can contact, and if she doesn't know of them I am sure there is someone that can help her make contact to get herself straightened out and get the help that she needs.  I know some kids do not know what it is like to live in a love filled home, but if they get the straight arrow pointing in the right direction, they can get themselves the help they need, if they wanted to.  It may take some time, I have no idea, but it would be worth the attempt instead of leading a life filled with drugs and abuse.
That is true, I think one just gets very apathetic and doesn't try to get help because they just don't care anymore. ::MonkeyConfused:: I just read a horrific story what a father did to his four year old son in Bakersfield and it has me very upset, the abuse this boy took was awful. I'm going to go shop for a little while and put my mind somewhere else for an hour or so. Be back later.  ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 12:56:14 PM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Misty may have been very cautious around the grandmas, and if that is the case, you would think that she would continue to watch her actions in the presence of others as well. Maybe now, they will see the real MISTY.

So sad for Jr.....t

that is my thoughts...she would probably be cautious around others, especially the grannys...that is why I don't think that the grannys can be responsible for setting any limitations, obviously, if they are not witness to any of Misty's shenanigans....jmo

Trust me, they do.. I am a Grandma, and if I saw anyone mistreating any of my grandchildren.. you bet I would step in, in a heart beat and let them know real fast what they are allowed to do..  We went through this with one of my daughter's ex husband girl friends, who had taken a belt to little hope, when hope was visiting them..  it took me 2 seconds to cross the room when she made the mistake of telling us what she did, I was in her face and ready to beat the H.... out of her.. They had to push me out the front door and lock it to keep me from tearing her head off..  you bet Grandmas step in..   I stipulate limitations when it comes to my girls and my grandchildren.. Those are my Blessings, and no one has the right to harm my Blessings.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 12:57:54 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.

Rosie...they don't know any better...they have to break the cycle that they have lived all of these generations..I feel most sorry for the little children...adults have choices...these babies do not...sadly..
And no one should get mad because you are expressing your feelings...they might think that you are a bit wacky...<< just teasing>>> but no one should be mad about it..
Thanks, I am a bit wacky anyway  ::MonkeyRoll:: After awhile reading story after story about kids being abused and murdered and missing it's too much. I'm going to go spend some money at Target, and buy things I don't need.  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 01:35:59 PM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


What better place to show your true self and true responses to situations. I am glad that she doesn't THINK...I am sure this will bring some basis to their investigation.

If she slaps him like that in front of the public at a Health Clinic, what else does she do to him when they are alone?????  What are the limitations set by the child's father, and Grandmother, and Great Grand Mother??

they weren't there when it happened were they? the grand mothers can't be blamed or implicated for everything just because they are related to Ron....


Misty may have been very cautious around the grandmas, and if that is the case, you would think that she would continue to watch her actions in the presence of others as well. Maybe now, they will see the real MISTY.

So sad for Jr.....t

that is my thoughts...she would probably be cautious around others, especially the grannys...that is why I don't think that the grannys can be responsible for setting any limitations, obviously, if they are not witness to any of Misty's shenanigans....jmo

Trust me, they do.. I am a Grandma, and if I saw anyone mistreating any of my grandchildren.. you bet I would step in, in a heart beat and let them know real fast what they are allowed to do..  We went through this with one of my daughter's ex husband girl friends, who had taken a belt to little hope, when hope was visiting them..  it took me 2 seconds to cross the room when she made the mistake of telling us what she did, I was in her face and ready to beat the H.... out of her.. They had to push me out the front door and lock it to keep me from tearing her head off..  you bet Grandmas step in..   I stipulate limitations when it comes to my girls and my grandchildren.. Those are my Blessings, and no one has the right to harm my Blessings.


I am a grandma as well...I would have to see the abuse happening first though or know of it to stop it right? same with these grammas...we have no proof that these grammas don't step in on behalf of their grand kids, same as you or I would do...right?  that is all that I am saying...we don't know one way or the other to say that they don't set limitations...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 01:37:30 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.

Rosie...they don't know any better...they have to break the cycle that they have lived all of these generations..I feel most sorry for the little children...adults have choices...these babies do not...sadly..
And no one should get mad because you are expressing your feelings...they might think that you are a bit wacky...<< just teasing>>> but no one should be mad about it..
Thanks, I am a bit wacky anyway  ::MonkeyRoll:: After awhile reading story after story about kids being abused and murdered and missing it's too much. I'm going to go spend some money at Target, and buy things I don't need.  ::MonkeyTongue::

just heard on Fox that a little boy matching Briant's description has been found alive in Mexicali ...
woo hoo! that would be awesome news!!!
so go spend that money!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 01:44:35 PM
I hope I didn't get anyone mad because I said I felt some sympathy for Misty. I just feel bad for all these young girls that are doing this to themselves, with the drugs and selling themselves, I guess they have no hope for their future, and that is sad. ::MonkeyWaa:: And these poor children stuck in the middle of all this. And the young boys as well, of course.

Rosie...they don't know any better...they have to break the cycle that they have lived all of these generations..I feel most sorry for the little children...adults have choices...these babies do not...sadly..
And no one should get mad because you are expressing your feelings...they might think that you are a bit wacky...<< just teasing>>> but no one should be mad about it..
Thanks, I am a bit wacky anyway  ::MonkeyRoll:: After awhile reading story after story about kids being abused and murdered and missing it's too much. I'm going to go spend some money at Target, and buy things I don't need.  ::MonkeyTongue::

just heard on Fox that a little boy matching Briant's description has been found alive in Mexicali ...
woo hoo! that would be awesome news!!!
so go spend that money!

Oh that is wonderful.  I sure hope it is him.

Abducted boy may have been found in Mexico
The Associated Press
Posted: 05/16/2009 10:24:52 AM PDT
Updated: 05/16/2009 10:24:53 AM PDT

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif.—Authorities say a child matching the description of a 3-year-old boy who was snatched from his Southern California home may have been found alive in Mexico.

San Bernardino County Sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Beavers says Saturday that investigators and FBI agents got a call from officials in the border town of Mexicali on Friday that they found a child that could be Briant Rodriguez.

Detectives and the boy's mother flew to Calexico late Friday but the mother has not yet seen or identified the child, Beavers said.

The boy was abducted May 3 from his San Bernardino home by two men who had tied up his family and robbed the home. Investigators have not established a motive.

http://**/news/ci_12385792



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 01:46:42 PM
Well let me try this again. Perhaps I will get it right this time.


Abducted boy may have been found in Mexico
The Associated Press
Posted: 05/16/2009 10:24:52 AM PDT
Updated: 05/16/2009 10:24:53 AM PDT

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif.—Authorities say a child matching the description of a 3-year-old boy who was snatched from his Southern California home may have been found alive in Mexico.

San Bernardino County Sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Beavers says Saturday that investigators and FBI agents got a call from officials in the border town of Mexicali on Friday that they found a child that could be Briant Rodriguez.

Detectives and the boy's mother flew to Calexico late Friday but the mother has not yet seen or identified the child, Beavers said.

The boy was abducted May 3 from his San Bernardino home by two men who had tied up his family and robbed the home. Investigators have not established a motive.

http://**/news/ci_12385792


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 01:47:32 PM
Good afternoon cookie, all Monkeys and guests!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
Good afternoon cookie, all Monkeys and guests!

hi Ya Heart!
if this is Briant, then that will make 2 missing children found alive this week! won't that just be the greatest ever! woo hoo!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
Haleigh Saga: Troubled family hopes for her safe return
But an investigator says they can't "get a straight line" on their probe.

    * By Dana Treen
    * Story updated at 9:38 AM on Saturday, May. 16, 2009


Early in the search for Haleigh Cummings, Putnam County detectives posted a family tree on their office wall to keep track of and explore any intertwined connections in the case.

A little more than three months later, investigators said they are no closer to finding the 5-year-old girl whose bright smile adorns buttons, posters, T-shirts and the hearts of a community.

In the same time, troubles that follow her family have left investigators sensing someone connected to them knows more.

"There is a lot going on with this family," said Dick Schauland, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office. "We still can't get a straight line with what is going on with this thing."

Since Haleigh was reported missing from a Satsuma mobile home early Feb. 10, national attention to the case has brought in more than 4,000 leads. Detectives continue to sift through the tips, but come back to the all-important timeline in an attempt to define what was going on in the days before Haleigh vanished.

dana.treen@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4091

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-05-16/story/haleigh_saga_troubled_family_hopes_for_her_safe_return


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 02:06:52 PM
Heart...maybe we should send the authorities our copy of characters that Wyks provided for us....only way to keep these mugs straight.... ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 02:10:32 PM
Good afternoon cookie, all Monkeys and guests!

hi Ya Heart!
if this is Briant, then that will make 2 missing children found alive this week! won't that just be the greatest ever! woo hoo!

Gives one or helps to increase ones hope cookie.  It is so sad that our children are not even safe in their own homes.

When one thinks of little Jessica Lunsford and what all she went through, it is just so depressing, so disheartening.  And justice does not seem to come fast enough to the demon possessed creatures.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 02:12:15 PM
Good afternoon cookie, all Monkeys and guests!

hi Ya Heart!
if this is Briant, then that will make 2 missing children found alive this week! won't that just be the greatest ever! woo hoo!

Heart & Cookie ~  Wonderful NEWS....now we await #3.  Keep our prayers going.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 02:15:26 PM
Good afternoon cookie, all Monkeys and guests!

hi Ya Heart!
if this is Briant, then that will make 2 missing children found alive this week! won't that just be the greatest ever! woo hoo!

Heart & Cookie ~  Wonderful NEWS....now we await #3.  Keep our prayers going.

yes Gram...wonderful news if it is him!!! prayers ......prayers...prayers! never give up hope..

Jessica Lunsford's death haunts me and I think that it will for the rest of my life!

Ron's video is on HLN news coming up in a minute...after commercial...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 02:16:33 PM
Heart...maybe we should send the authorities our copy of characters that Wyks provided for us....only way to keep these mugs straight.... ::MonkeyEek::

Imho cookie,  we need to send about ten human dumpsters and 10 street cleaners down there and just go through the streets and clean up the trash and waste for good.

 ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 02:26:33 PM
Heart...maybe we should send the authorities our copy of characters that Wyks provided for us....only way to keep these mugs straight.... ::MonkeyEek::

Imho cookie,  we need to send about ten human dumpsters and 10 street cleaners down there and just go through the streets and clean up the trash and waste for good.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Amen Sista!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 16, 2009, 02:31:24 PM
Came back and saw that little Briant may be alive, that is great news.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 02:54:27 PM
Heart...maybe we should send the authorities our copy of characters that Wyks provided for us....only way to keep these mugs straight.... ::MonkeyEek::

Imho cookie,  we need to send about ten human dumpsters and 10 street cleaners down there and just go through the streets and clean up the trash and waste for good.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Amen Sista!

They will know when the gig is up....monkeys invading Satsuma with their PINK suits and their arse kicking boots.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Heart...maybe we should send the authorities our copy of characters that Wyks provided for us....only way to keep these mugs straight.... ::MonkeyEek::

Imho cookie,  we need to send about ten human dumpsters and 10 street cleaners down there and just go through the streets and clean up the trash and waste for good.

 ::MonkeyEek::

Amen Sista!

They will know when the gig is up....monkeys invading Satsuma with their PINK suits and their arse kicking boots.

when do we leave?  ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 03:17:18 PM
darling picture Heart...
which reminds me again....anybody heard or seen Brandi lately? I have been missing her ..
also Searching who I understand is having computer problems? go to a cafe Searching and get on their wifi...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 16, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
Good evening, my monkey friends. I e mailed AH and asked him about the incident about Misty at the Clinic. He wrote me back saying he was aware of it and was tracking it down. Maybe, they will haul her back in again. Also, maybe they can arresst her for Child Abuse. Heck, arresst her on something. If she sits there long enough maybe just maybe they can break her. You know Ron must be freaking on her about  now, if this turns out to be true. Let's pray for justice for Haleigh.
 ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 04:00:44 PM
Good evening, my monkey friends. I e mailed AH and asked him about the incident about Misty at the Clinic. He wrote me back saying he was aware of it and was tracking it down. Maybe, they will haul her back in again. Also, maybe they can arresst her for Child Abuse. Heck, arresst her on something. If she sits there long enough maybe just maybe they can break her. You know Ron must be freaking on her about  now, if this turns out to be true. Let's pray for justice for Haleigh.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

hey Rosebud...yep...if it is true, haul her butt to jail and keep her there till she tells what she knows about Haleigh...arrest her for one thing and then keep her till she breaks.,
I just can't believe that he LE would let it go this long if they knew that Misty had info about Haleigh...wouldn't they just try to find anything to take her in ? like driving around town without a driving license for one thing?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 04:12:21 PM
Good evening, my monkey friends. I e mailed AH and asked him about the incident about Misty at the Clinic. He wrote me back saying he was aware of it and was tracking it down. Maybe, they will haul her back in again. Also, maybe they can arresst her for Child Abuse. Heck, arresst her on something. If she sits there long enough maybe just maybe they can break her. You know Ron must be freaking on her about  now, if this turns out to be true. Let's pray for justice for Haleigh.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

hey Rosebud...yep...if it is true, haul her butt to jail and keep her there till she tells what she knows about Haleigh...arrest her for one thing and then keep her till she breaks.,
I just can't believe that he LE would let it go this long if they knew that Misty had info about Haleigh...wouldn't they just try to find anything to take her in ? like driving around town without a driving license for one thing?

I think I will wait until I hear more on this one, see if it is reported by a/some media outlet.  And a media outlet other than Geraldo.  It would appear that if there was much to it, it would have been mentioned on CNN Headline News.  They have been repeating the clip of Ron's plea for Haleigh's return all day today.

cookie, I noticed that Brandi did not post on yesterday.  I thought perhaps she had some engagement this weekend.  If so, then good for her.  However she is missed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 04:16:42 PM
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony - Aaliyah Bedwell – BNN Radio Schedule
Posted on May 16th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture


Due to the enormous interest in these  cases we are changing our regular Radio schedule around to make sure that all three cases get the attention they deserve, also that you, our listeners have an opportunity to speak up.

On Saturday May/16 3pm Central we will be discussing the Caylee Anthony and Aaliyah Bedwell cases. We have an interesting list of guests including Connie Bedwell’s Father Tim, her two sisters Cara and Christen, also her long time boy friend Darrel. There were some interesting developments in the case this week, two ex-parte hearings were scheduled. It also seems like media interest in the case is building, a syndicated morning radio show out of Tampa started talking about Aaliyah’s plight, in fact Jan and I were guests on their show,

Sunday May/17 3pm Central we will be looking at the Haleigh Cummings case, as of right now the panel is set to include all of the major reporters in the case. TJ Hart of The Sky 97.3 Talk Radio out of Gainesville Florida, Emmy winning journalist Art Harris, William “Cobra” Staubs Bondsman and Private Investigator, Crime writer Denny Griffin and of course our own reporter on this case Ms. Pickles. In other words we have the entire cast of people that have been reporting and investigating this case! This is a do not miss show.

To tune in to either show just head over to www.blogtalkradio.com  a few minutes before 3pm Central, you will see the link to listen in on the front page. Both shows will be call in’s so dial in with your questions and comments.

Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120899


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 04:20:23 PM
Good evening, my monkey friends. I e mailed AH and asked him about the incident about Misty at the Clinic. He wrote me back saying he was aware of it and was tracking it down. Maybe, they will haul her back in again. Also, maybe they can arresst her for Child Abuse. Heck, arresst her on something. If she sits there long enough maybe just maybe they can break her. You know Ron must be freaking on her about  now, if this turns out to be true. Let's pray for justice for Haleigh.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

At least get some charges against her.  Even though she could be charged, it will be like the rest of the records we have seen, bailed out.  But even so...she would have to appear.  It would be the beginning........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 06:19:54 PM
Law enforcement officials waiting to see boy believed to be kidnapped child


10:00 PM PDT on Saturday, May 16, 2009

By SANDRA STOKELY
The Press-Enterprise

SAN BERNARDINO - Mexican bureaucracy tied to bringing a child from Mexico into the United States is holding up law enforcement efforts to identify a child believed to be 3-year-old kidnap victim Briant Rodriguez, a San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department spokesman said today.

Lt. Rick Ells said it was proving to be a time-consuming process.

"It may be a matter of a couple of days," he said.

Ells said the Sheriff's Department has been in touch with the Mexican consulate about the issues.

A child matching Briant's description was found Friday afternoon in Mexicali and local authorities were notified.

Ells said he had no information on the circumstances that led to the discovery of the little boy or where he was when he was found.

Cindy Beavers, a Sheriff's Department spokeswoman, said earlier today that lead investigator Sgt. Doug Hubbard, accompanied by other Sheriff's Department investigators and FBI special agents, had departed for Calexico about 5 or 6 p.m. Friday.

Maria Rosalina Millana, Briant's mother, also was reported en route to Calexico Friday night.

Calexico is on the California side of the U.S.-Mexico border, across from Mexicali.

Ells said Millana had arrived, but like investigators, had not been allowed access to the boy.

Briant was taken on May 3 during a home invasion robbery at his Pedley Road home.

Two gunmen stormed into the home, tied up Millana and four of her children and ransacked the home for nearly 20 minutes.

They left, taking cash, two cell phone and Briant.

Millana told investigators they threatened to take her son to Mexico and kill him.

--Sandra Stokley

sstokley@PE.com

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_W_webkidnap.2b5ef74.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 06:59:09 PM
#64  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 11:01 am

lisa e–he drove her to school that day, versus putting her on the bus where Jerry Santos daughter had taken her under wing, and made sure she got to class ok…since it was her first year at school…and her little cousin, Austin, also took the bus with her.

#65  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 11:05 am

Nelson: I’m not ready to make the leap into your cop conspiracy…they’d lock ronald up in a heartbeat if they could prove he had anything to do with this. Same with any member of the famlies involved…As for Nay Nay, as I reported earlier, detectives interviewed her the first time she got locked up and right before she got sprung the first time…they WANTED her to shake and bake behind bars, detox and maybe recover a few synapses to remember something that might even be a small something that might connect to something else they have…




#66  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 11:51 am

Diane–
Re Santos comment:

In looking backwards, Detectives are p utting together a timeline and trying to understand the state of mind of key players in the days and hours leading up to HC going long gone, and the time thereafter…Say you are privy to what RC did next, or what happened with Misty the night before Haleigh’s last day at school. That would be Sunday night. If she never came home, might he have been madly racing to try to find her, or maybe she came home from a party around breakfast time, who knows…Not saying either of those things are true, but for whatever reason, it was Santos’ impression the detail helped one piece of their puzzle of bizarre behaviour make a little better sense.





#71  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

Hey Art/Sandy–

Don’t kid yourself, DCF has found plenty to mull over, and needed more time…statute and policy allows them to extend if need more time.


#72  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

E HARDMAN: Agree, let’s not rush to judgment. Remember Richard Jewel.

#57  pepper rogers Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 1:31 am

I have to say that to say the father did this seems ridiculous to me. He would have to get Misty to lie. Then assume she would lie even after he accused her on the 911 call. Misty just had an affair so it does not seem that she is totally under his thumb. He clearly loved his daughter and clearly she was daddy’s girl. I would lean toward a pedophile that watched the family. If LE truly has ruled out a pedophile I would look to Misty and an accident or her having company that she does not want to share. If the child is alive I would lean toward the mother’s side of the family. But to say Ron Cumming’s did this, I mean he would then want to look good on his call to 911. He would want to make himself look good. He did not do that. I believe his reaction was an honest reaction to finding his child missing. LE does not know where all the pedophiles were because they do not even know who all the pedophiles are.


#  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

Pepper Rogers:

Some good points: Ronald has denied it, agreed to meet with police, has a pretty solid alibi for that night at PDM…registered sex offenders they do say they’ve checked out, but there could be some budding ones or those yet to be arrested, or someone off probation status no longer required to wear a monitor…so many possibilities.


# 84 Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

Pepper Rogers:

Some good points: Ronald has denied it, agreed to meet with police, has a pretty solid alibi for that night at PDM…registered sex offenders they do say they’ve checked out, but there could be some budding ones or those yet to be arrested, or someone off probation status no longer required to wear a monitor…so many possibilities.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 07:04:02 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 07:17:43 PM
Hello Monkeys!
I was just thinking about certain scientific advances that could possibly be used in this case. The one I was thinking of the most is in regards to "touch DNA". I am reading to find out how long it would take to get results of this is one of the routes that LE have taken in order to rule people in or out ect...
If they are utilizing this science then everything in the home, including Haleigh's shirt could be tested for touch DNA.
Here are some links to read up about it. Interesting stuff.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2008-09-22-touchdna_N.htm

http://www.bodetech.com/technologies/touch-dna/touch-dna-overview

PS
(I am praying that the little boy found in Mexicali is Briant. (I have a feeling that it is.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 07:20:37 PM
There is a Jerry Santos aka Gerald Santos that live in Satsuma age 38...

#35  Rose Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 3:31 am

I’m telling ya,Art,darlin’ you should do a lane change,ours is much more interesting.Here’s your Jerry,just to name some of his charges in Putnam…

Defendant
SANTOS, GERALD THOMAS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2002-11-08 1 ARREST REPORT - D/S BECKTON POSS OF CANNABIS
2002-11-08 1 POSS OF DRUG PARAPHERNA
2002-11-13 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2002-11-13 3 $504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00364434 (11-8-02)
2002-11-13 4 $504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00364435 (11-8-02)
2002-12-04 5 INFORMATION POSS OF CANNABIS LESS THAN 20 GRAMS
2002-12-04 6 POSS OF PARAPHERNALIA (USE)
2002-12-05 7 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-21-2003)
2003-01-21 8 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES IN COURT WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL
2003-01-21 8 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO CT I - POSS OF
2003-01-21 8 CANNABIS LESS THAN 20 GRAMS - CT II - POSS OF
2003-01-21 8 PARAPHERNALIA (USE) NOLLE PROSEQUI - DEFT SWORN
2003-01-21 8 PLEA ACCEPTED - ADJUDGED GUILTY
2003-01-21 8 1 DAY COUNTY JAIL WITH 1 DAY CREDIT
2003-01-21 8 $156.50 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED

Defendant
SANTOS, GERALD THOMAS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2003-08-19 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO
2003-08-19 1 GRAND THEFT
2003-08-19 1 FILING A FALSE POLICE REPORT
2003-08-19 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $ 2,504- AWN
2003-08-20 3 ARREST REPORT - CT 1-GRAND THEFT, CT 2-FALSE REPORT
2003-08-20 3 OF A CRIME - BOND SET AT $2504.00
2003-08-20 4 $2504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - #P07-396638
2003-08-20 5 DEFENDANT’S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
2003-08-20 6 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2003-08-21 7 FELONY WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

Defendant
SANTOS, GERALD THOMAS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2003-08-12 1 ARREST REPORT - D/S A HOPKINS ASSAULT-DVR
2003-08-12 1 BILLIE J TURLEY
2003-08-13 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2003-08-13 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2003-08-13 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2003-08-13 2 $504.00 SECURED BOND SET
2003-08-13 2 NO CONTACT WITH ALLEGED VICTIM
2003-08-13 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2003-08-13 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2003-08-13 5 $504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - 00396179 (8-13-03)
2003-08-29 6 INFORMATION ASSAULT
2003-08-29 7 DOMESTIC BATTERY

Defendant
SANTOS, GERALD THOMAS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2003-08-19 1 COMPLAINT-SOPC DET R FRANK GRAND THEFT
2003-08-19 1 FILING FALSE REPORT
2003-08-19 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND $2504.00
2003-08-19 3 ARREST REPORT-SOPC WARRANT D/S ELLIOTT
2003-08-19 4 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2003-08-19 5 $2504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND POSTED - 00396638 (8-19-03)
2003-08-19 6 DEFENDANT’S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS

How do you like that false report?Don’t it just make ya all warm and fuzzy?LOL

—————————–

Rose:

Responding here to make sure we stay together on the Q and A.

Actually, Jerry does give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Sometimes “gotcha” doesn’t turn out to be gotcha.

He paid a fine for possessing a nickel bag of pot six years ago, he tells me, used to smoke pot but gave it up. “I was wrong, I admitted it.” A lot of stress after moving down from New York mid-custody fight with a woman with a past he didn’t learn about until after they’d had a son together. Long story, but he says she calls Putnam county cops to report domestic battery, says he hit her. Cops show up, arrest him, giving her enough time to scoop up their 7 year old son and split for Kentucky where he’s been locked in a court battle for years.

Meanwhile, Putnam County DCF checks Jerry out, and clears him of the battery accusation. They drop the charges, but in process of cuffing him, cop breaks his shoulder–all caught on camera, an event that triggered a lawsuit against the county and yielded a five figure settlement recently.

The rest of the story behind the story appears to be one to really lol about: grand theft auto charge dropped, put him through the ringer. He’d let a relative park her car at his house, not knowing it was about to be repod’d. Truck shows up to take her car, it’s gone. They report it stolen; he’s at work, arrested. She’d apparently snuck back and taken it. Wasn’t his car. Don’t see any adjudication on rap sheet, do you? That’s because it was dismissed, he says. Also very old case. Note dates.

As for his character, he’s in a great relationship,finally found the right woman, he says. Recently been approved as a foster parent, in addition parenting his own three children –two of his and one his current girlfriend, Stephanie, brought to the table. Coaches all in little league, heading to the playoffs today, steady job, helps his mother who takes care of handicapped kids; his father works for DCF in PC. He did want to clarify spotting Ronald speeding at the bus stop and nearly hittin the parents.

Says he saw Ronald through the dark glass, but not Haleigh, though we know she was at school that day and later told Jerry he was in a hurry because she’d spilled something, after he related he was in a hurry over stress of her gone missing.

Jerry has been quizzed several times by DCF and the cops, and I’ll have more to report about some of the other shocking things he heard or witnessed…that day at the bus stop, and later. It will not make you LOL.

#20  K Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 5:51 am

I wonder who this guy Santos is.There is one of Ron’s neighbors at a site that talks trash on a regular basis about the Cummings family.Is Gerald a nickname for Jerry,if so,check the Putnam County website for a record for a Gerald Santos.


#35  Hey Art Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

Gerome Santos has his own troubles with the law. Did you know “Jerry” and his dad also filed a suit against the former sheriff? Is this the same Jerry Santos that said he saw Ronald beating jr on Christmas day? Yet, didn’t call the cops.

DCF has a ’statutory’ 60 days to complete their investigation.
Section 415.104(4), F.S.

If they didn’t find anything in 60 days, they aren’t going to find anything.


http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
Correction
"I am reading to find out how long it would take to get results of this. If it is one of the routes that LE have taken in order to rule people in or out ect..."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 07:22:45 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 07:25:01 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

There are other neighbors from that neighborhood though no?
Are we certain the poster in question is actually this Santos person?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 16, 2009, 07:29:06 PM
Im am very mad if this staory about Misty and Jr. turn out to be true, I will wait to find out if I am told it absolutly happened and then if it did, Im gonna give in to my need to rant at someone in Putnam, This is horrible and if it is true , all I can say is Misty better be glad Im not Crystal because I would have a new charge to add to whatever ones I already had after I found her and Beat the heck out of her, Id risk going to jail, everybody bonds out after a few minuts so to me it would be worth it!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 07:34:58 PM
Im am very mad if this staory about Misty and Jr. turn out to be true, I will wait to find out if I am told it absolutly happened and then if it did, Im gonna give in to my need to rant at someone in Putnam, This is horrible and if it is true , all I can say is Misty better be glad Im not Crystal because I would have a new charge to add to whatever ones I already had after I found her and Beat the heck out of her, Id risk going to jail, everybody bonds out after a few minuts so to me it would be worth it!!!!!!

I agree we just have to wait and find out the truth if this is what absolutely happened. If it comes out as truth there will be many people suffering from sadness and grief. It would be a good idea to have a grief counselor prepared and available to speak to the masses if this is the case.
...Just my thoughts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 07:38:07 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

There are other neighbors from that neighborhood though no?
Are we certain the poster in question is actually this Santos person?

I can't say for sure Grama, just passing on what I see and have read. However how many neighbors by the name of Santos has fathers that work for DCF.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 07:40:12 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

What makes you think he is a poster, Heart??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 16, 2009, 07:41:11 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

There are other neighbors from that neighborhood though no?
Are we certain the poster in question is actually this Santos person?

I have no idea who they are talking about. The only neighbor (or used to be) that I know of that has posted and stated that they are/were a neighbor to RC is a poster on WS, and that poster never talked trash about Ron. The story about Santos from AH.... I am really not sure at this point, but just cause this guy has a criminal record I don't think we should discount his statements.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 07:41:57 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

There are other neighbors from that neighborhood though no?
Are we certain the poster in question is actually this Santos person?

I can't say for sure Grama, just passing on what I see and have read. However how many neighbors by the name of Santos has fathers that work for DCF.
LOL Heart. How'd you know I was a Grama? (I have one GrandChild as of yet which is a good thing since I have two young ones at home still. I have gaps in ages between my own children. My oldest is in her twenties and youngest under age 10.)
Grama posted before me though lol.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 07:45:13 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

There are other neighbors from that neighborhood though no?
Are we certain the poster in question is actually this Santos person?

I have no idea who they are talking about. The only neighbor (or used to be) that I know of that has posted and stated that they are/were a neighbor to RC is a poster on WS, and that poster never talked trash about Ron. The story about Santos from AH.... I am really not sure at this point, but just cause this guy has a criminal record I don't think we should discount his statements.
I agree with you Maven.
Especially after what AH posted in regards to what he found out what the charges were for and what was dropped and what not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 07:50:31 PM
At least this guy came forward with pertinent information about day at the bus stop.  Hope his info cleared up a lot of ...stories...that we have heard from the family involved.

Guess Art has more on this, so maybe Mr. Santos is a good source of info and is not afraid to come forward and speak his mind. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 08:02:50 PM
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Thanks Heart for the 3 postings.  Very interesting info for sure.

Good evening Grama, yes very interesting. Especially the Santos one that I just posted.  I would like to find out what website he is posting on.

There are other neighbors from that neighborhood though no?
Are we certain the poster in question is actually this Santos person?

I can't say for sure Grama, just passing on what I see and have read. However how many neighbors by the name of Santos has fathers that work for DCF.
LOL Heart. How'd you know I was a Grama? (I have one GrandChild as of yet which is a good thing since I have two young ones at home still. I have gaps in ages between my own children. My oldest is in her twenties and youngest under age 10.)
Grama posted before me though lol.
Sorry Patricia, I misread your post. I thought your post was from Grama.

Grama, I am searching to see if Santos is posting somewhere.

Have you read somewhere/anywhere where Santos stated that Ronald beat Jr on Christmas Day?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 08:10:19 PM
Hmmmm....now I remember reading that, but not recently.  Can't remember where but nothing more was commented on it, so just let it drop. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 08:40:17 PM
O/T
Words can not describe how happy I am at hearing this news!
http://**/breakingnews/ci_12386079

Aho and AMEN!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 08:53:44 PM
Details:

UCN: 542007DR000343FDXXXX
File Date: 2007-03-16 Disposition Date: 2008-09-11
File Type: UIFSA NA - NON REPORTED - FD27
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
SYS ACCT KY FOSTER CARE  Defendants
SANTOS GERALD T 


Date Docket Description
2007-03-16 001.NOTICE OF REGISTRATION OF FOREIGN SUPPORT ORDER - KY 

2007-03-16 002.DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SHEET 

2007-03-16 003.INTERSTATE ACCT WKSHEET-STATE OF ORIGIN KY 

2007-03-16 004.CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT TRANSMITTAL 

2008-12-04 005.MOTION TO TERMINATE CHILD SUPPORT 

2008-12-08 006.MOTION FOR NON SUSPENSION OF LICENSE - GERALD SANTOS 

2008-12-16 007.NOTICE OF HEARING - PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE JHO 

2008-12-16 01-16-09 @ 10:30 

2009-01-20 008.AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING - PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE JHO

2009-01-20 02-27-09 @ 10:30 

2009-01-26 009.MOTION TO ESTABLISH RETROACTIVE CHILD SUPPORT - CHILD 

2009-01-26 SUPPORT ARREARAGE AND FOR APYMENTS THEREON 

2009-01-26 010.NOTICE OF HEARING - PARTIES TO APPEAR BEFORE JHO 

2009-01-26 03-13-09 @ 08:30 

2009-01-30 011.MEMO TO CLERK - COPY OF ORDER TERMINATING CHILD SUPPORT 

2009-02-27 012.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2009-02-27 013.NOTICE OF CANCELATION OF HEARING 

2009-03-02 014.MOTION FOR REHEARING - GERALD SANTOS 

2009-03-10 015.REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION OF HEARING OFFICER - RMP 

2009-03-10 AWN - 03-10-09 FL# 200954670184 

2009-03-13 016.DOR COURT MINUTES 

2009-03-13 017.PARENT INFORMATION SHEET - RESPONDENT 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 08:59:53 PM


Wendy Eisner is aka Wendy Santos... ::MonkeyTongue::

Details:

UCN: 542006CA000573CAXXXX
File Date: 2006-10-31 Disposition Date: 2007-03-27
File Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE - CA22
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM   

Plaintiffs
SANTOS GERALD T
EISNER WENDY
SANTOS DESTANEE
SANTOS GERALD JR
ALMODOEAR NATALIA  Defendants
KELLY DEAN AS SHERIFF 


Date Docket Description
2006-10-31 001.COMPLAINT 

2006-10-31 002.PLAINTIFFS REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS 

2006-10-31 003.SUMMONS ISSUED - ATTORNEY - DEAN KELLY AS 

2006-10-31 .SHERIFF OF PUTNAM COUNTY 

2006-10-31 ***.SUMM RT 11/08/06 SVD 11/06/06 DUE 11/26/06 

2006-11-08 004.RETURN OF SERVICE - SVD DEAN KELLY AS SHERIFF 

2006-11-27 005.DEFENDANT KELLYS FIRST REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION OF 

2006-11-27 .DOCUMENTS TO PLAINTIFF 

2006-11-27 006.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-11-27 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF GERALD T SANTOS 

2006-11-27 007.DEFENDANT KELLYS RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFFS REQUEST 

2006-11-27 .FOR ADMISSIONS 

2006-11-27 008.DEFENDANT KELLYS ANSWER AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES AND 

2006-11-27 .COUNTERCLAIM 

2006-12-01 009.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SEVRING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF WENDY EISNER 

2006-12-01 010.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF DESTANEE SANTOS 

2006-12-01 011.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF GERALD SANTOS JR 

2006-12-01 012.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF NATALIA ALMONDOEAR 

2006-12-11 013.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF VOLUTNARY DISMISSAL OF 

2006-12-11 .COUNTERCLAIM RECORDED 12/12/06 

2007-01-25 014.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO 

2007-01-25 .DEFENDANTS INTERROGATORIES 

2007-01-25 015.PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS REQUEST FOR 

2007-01-25 .PRODUCTION 

2007-01-25 016.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO DEFENDANTS 

2007-01-25 .INTERROGATORIES 

2007-01-25 017.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO 

2007-01-25 .DEFENDANTS INTERRGATORIES 

2007-02-09 018.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING SECOND SET OF 

2007-02-09 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF GERALD T SANTOS 

2007-02-12 019.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-02-28 020.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM ISSUED TO 

2007-02-28 .RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF HOMER A PASCHALL 

2007-02-28 .SVD ANGIE HALL 02/26/07 

2007-02-28 021.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM ISSUED TO 

2007-02-28 .RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF FAMILY MEDICAL AND DENTAL 

2007-02-28 .CENTER SVD IDALMY MELENDEZ 02/26/07 

2007-02-28 022.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM ISSUED TO 

2007-02-28 .RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF PUTNAM COMMUNITY MEDICAL 

2007-02-28 .CENTER SVD STEVE FELDMAN 02/26/07 

2007-03-01 023.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION - 04/02/07 @ 10:30 

2007-03-01 .IN RE: DEPOSITION OF GERALD SANTOS 

2007-03-01 024.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM WITHOUT 

2007-03-01 .DEPOSITION ISSUED TO HUMAN RESOURCES OF TRUSS 

2007-03-01 .HOUSE SVD BILLIE BARLOW 02/27/07 

2007-03-01 025.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM WITHOUT 

2007-03-01 .DEPOSITION ISSUED TO RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF 

2007-03-01 .CVS SVD JENNIFER KOHLER 02/27/07 

2007-03-02 026.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO DEFENDANTS 

2007-03-02 .SECOND INTERROGATORIES 

2007-03-08 027.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-03-12 028.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-03-21 029.AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION - 04/02/07 

2007-03-21 .IN RE: DEPOSITION OF GERALD SANTOS @ 10:30; 

2007-03-21 .AND DEPOSITION OF MIKE GRIFFIN @ 11:45 

2007-03-27 030.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE 

2007-03-27 031.ORDER GRANTING VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL WITHOUT 

2007-03-27 .PREJUDICE 03-26-2007 AWN IN RE: DISMISSED AS 

2007-03-27 .TO WENDY EISNER AND NATALIA ALMODOEAR 

2007-03-27 .RECORDED 03/28/07 

2007-04-09 032.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-05-04 033.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR 

2007-05-04 .DEPOSITION ISSUED TO MODULAR DECKS 

2007-05-04 .SVD GAY EVNNIS 05/01/07 

2007-05-09 034.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR DEPOSITION 

2007-05-09 .ISSUED TO MIGUEL DEJUK - SVD HOPE THOMAS 05/07/07 

2007-05-21 035.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2007-07-27 036.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION - 09/18/07 @ 9:30 

2007-07-27 .IN RE: DEPOSITION OF MIKE GRIFFIN 

2007-07-31 037.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED 

2007-07-31 .BY ATTORNEY TO STACEY DOWLING - SVD 07-25-2007 

2007-07-31 038.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED 

2007-07-31 .BY ATTORNEY TO JOHN TROIANO - SVD 07-25-2007 

2007-08-02 039.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR 

2007-08-02 .DEPOSITION ISSUED BY ATTORNEY TO MIKE GRIFFIN 

2007-08-02 .SVD 07-31-2007 

2007-08-10 040.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY MEDIATION 12-04-2007 

2007-08-10 .@10:00 BEFORE MICHAEL I COULSON MEDIATOR 

2007-09-19 041.AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 09-18-2007 

2007-09-19 .@11:30 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF DERRIN IVEY 

2007-11-30 042.PLAINTIFFS MEDIATION STATEMENT 

2007-12-06 043.MEDIATION DISPOSITION REPORT - CASE COMPLETELY 

2007-12-06 .SETTLED 

2008-01-16 044.JOINT STIPULATION FOR VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL 

2008-01-16 .FILED BEFORE THE COURT 

2008-01-16 045.ORDER OF DISMISSAL 01-16-2008 EEH 

2008-01-16 .RECORDED 01/17/08 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
So Jersey is this from him to have the foster kids????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 09:03:32 PM
O/T
Words can not describe how happy I am at hearing this news!
http://**/breakingnews/ci_12386079

Aho and AMEN!

 ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Details:

UCN: 542006CA000573CAXXXX
File Date: 2006-10-31 Disposition Date: 2007-03-27
File Type: OTHER NEGLIGENCE - CA22
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM   

Plaintiffs
SANTOS GERALD T
EISNER WENDY
SANTOS DESTANEE
SANTOS GERALD JR
ALMODOEAR NATALIA  Defendants
KELLY DEAN AS SHERIFF 


Date Docket Description
2006-10-31 001.COMPLAINT 

2006-10-31 002.PLAINTIFFS REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS 

2006-10-31 003.SUMMONS ISSUED - ATTORNEY - DEAN KELLY AS 

2006-10-31 .SHERIFF OF PUTNAM COUNTY 

2006-10-31 ***.SUMM RT 11/08/06 SVD 11/06/06 DUE 11/26/06 

2006-11-08 004.RETURN OF SERVICE - SVD DEAN KELLY AS SHERIFF 

2006-11-27 005.DEFENDANT KELLYS FIRST REQUEST FOR PRODUCTION OF 

2006-11-27 .DOCUMENTS TO PLAINTIFF 

2006-11-27 006.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-11-27 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF GERALD T SANTOS 

2006-11-27 007.DEFENDANT KELLYS RESPONSE TO PLAINTIFFS REQUEST 

2006-11-27 .FOR ADMISSIONS 

2006-11-27 008.DEFENDANT KELLYS ANSWER AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES AND 

2006-11-27 .COUNTERCLAIM 

2006-12-01 009.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SEVRING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF WENDY EISNER 

2006-12-01 010.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF DESTANEE SANTOS 

2006-12-01 011.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF GERALD SANTOS JR 

2006-12-01 012.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING FIRST SET OF 

2006-12-01 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF NATALIA ALMONDOEAR 

2006-12-11 013.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF VOLUTNARY DISMISSAL OF 

2006-12-11 .COUNTERCLAIM RECORDED 12/12/06 

2007-01-25 014.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO 

2007-01-25 .DEFENDANTS INTERROGATORIES 

2007-01-25 015.PLAINTIFFS RESPONSE TO DEFENDANTS REQUEST FOR 

2007-01-25 .PRODUCTION 

2007-01-25 016.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO DEFENDANTS 

2007-01-25 .INTERROGATORIES 

2007-01-25 017.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO 

2007-01-25 .DEFENDANTS INTERRGATORIES 

2007-02-09 018.DEFENDANTS NOTICE OF SERVING SECOND SET OF 

2007-02-09 .INTERROGATORIES TO PLAINTIFF GERALD T SANTOS 

2007-02-12 019.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-02-28 020.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM ISSUED TO 

2007-02-28 .RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF HOMER A PASCHALL 

2007-02-28 .SVD ANGIE HALL 02/26/07 

2007-02-28 021.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM ISSUED TO 

2007-02-28 .RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF FAMILY MEDICAL AND DENTAL 

2007-02-28 .CENTER SVD IDALMY MELENDEZ 02/26/07 

2007-02-28 022.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM ISSUED TO 

2007-02-28 .RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF PUTNAM COMMUNITY MEDICAL 

2007-02-28 .CENTER SVD STEVE FELDMAN 02/26/07 

2007-03-01 023.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION - 04/02/07 @ 10:30 

2007-03-01 .IN RE: DEPOSITION OF GERALD SANTOS 

2007-03-01 024.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM WITHOUT 

2007-03-01 .DEPOSITION ISSUED TO HUMAN RESOURCES OF TRUSS 

2007-03-01 .HOUSE SVD BILLIE BARLOW 02/27/07 

2007-03-01 025.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM WITHOUT 

2007-03-01 .DEPOSITION ISSUED TO RECORDS CUSTODIAN OF 

2007-03-01 .CVS SVD JENNIFER KOHLER 02/27/07 

2007-03-02 026.PLAINTIFFS NOTICE OF SERVICE OF ANSWERS TO DEFENDANTS 

2007-03-02 .SECOND INTERROGATORIES 

2007-03-08 027.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-03-12 028.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-03-21 029.AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION - 04/02/07 

2007-03-21 .IN RE: DEPOSITION OF GERALD SANTOS @ 10:30; 

2007-03-21 .AND DEPOSITION OF MIKE GRIFFIN @ 11:45 

2007-03-27 030.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE 

2007-03-27 031.ORDER GRANTING VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL WITHOUT 

2007-03-27 .PREJUDICE 03-26-2007 AWN IN RE: DISMISSED AS 

2007-03-27 .TO WENDY EISNER AND NATALIA ALMODOEAR 

2007-03-27 .RECORDED 03/28/07 

2007-04-09 032.NOTICE OF PRODUCTION FROM NON PARTY 

2007-05-04 033.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR 

2007-05-04 .DEPOSITION ISSUED TO MODULAR DECKS 

2007-05-04 .SVD GAY EVNNIS 05/01/07 

2007-05-09 034.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR DEPOSITION 

2007-05-09 .ISSUED TO MIGUEL DEJUK - SVD HOPE THOMAS 05/07/07 

2007-05-21 035.REQUEST FOR COPIES 

2007-07-27 036.NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION - 09/18/07 @ 9:30 

2007-07-27 .IN RE: DEPOSITION OF MIKE GRIFFIN 

2007-07-31 037.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED 

2007-07-31 .BY ATTORNEY TO STACEY DOWLING - SVD 07-25-2007 

2007-07-31 038.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED 

2007-07-31 .BY ATTORNEY TO JOHN TROIANO - SVD 07-25-2007 

2007-08-02 039.RETURN OF SERVICE - SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FOR 

2007-08-02 .DEPOSITION ISSUED BY ATTORNEY TO MIKE GRIFFIN 

2007-08-02 .SVD 07-31-2007 

2007-08-10 040.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY MEDIATION 12-04-2007 

2007-08-10 .@10:00 BEFORE MICHAEL I COULSON MEDIATOR 

2007-09-19 041.AMENDED NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION 09-18-2007 

2007-09-19 .@11:30 IN RE: DEPOSITION OF DERRIN IVEY 

2007-11-30 042.PLAINTIFFS MEDIATION STATEMENT 

2007-12-06 043.MEDIATION DISPOSITION REPORT - CASE COMPLETELY 

2007-12-06 .SETTLED 

2008-01-16 044.JOINT STIPULATION FOR VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL 

2008-01-16 .FILED BEFORE THE COURT 

2008-01-16 045.ORDER OF DISMISSAL 01-16-2008 EEH 

2008-01-16 .RECORDED 01/17/08 




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 16, 2009, 09:06:29 PM
Jersey please translate.   ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Heart thank you for the great news!!  ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 16, 2009, 09:10:26 PM
Good evening, my monkey friends. I e mailed AH and asked him about the incident about Misty at the Clinic. He wrote me back saying he was aware of it and was tracking it down. Maybe, they will haul her back in again. Also, maybe they can arresst her for Child Abuse. Heck, arresst her on something. If she sits there long enough maybe just maybe they can break her. You know Ron must be freaking on her about  now, if this turns out to be true. Let's pray for justice for Haleigh.
 ::MonkeyAngel::

At least get some charges against her.  Even though she could be charged, it will be like the rest of the records we have seen, bailed out.  But even so...she would have to appear.  It would be the beginning........

Even if she is arrested and bailed out.. its still icing on the cake when it comes to decisions to be made by Children's services.. They can knock on the door at Grandma's any day at any time and with a court order remove little ron..  And if they did that, because he is in harms way with short elevator slapping him in the head.. like brain injury.. then he would be turned over to his Momma Crystal .... ron married her, made her the legal step mom..   If children's service closes the case and doesn't remove little Ron, then it goes to court.  I think ron has a marginal chance of keeping him as long as they lived with great Grandma.. After Thrusday, all bets are off, and there should be an arrest warrent showing up anytime for child abuse. A complaint was filed, if she isn't arrested, then the monkeys need to storm the SO..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:11:23 PM
So Jersey is this from him to have the foster kids????

It looks to me the lawsuit against Putnam County


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:14:10 PM
Jersey please translate.   ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Heart thank you for the great news!!  ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::

Hey I wish I was an attorney.. Looks as though the civil lawsuit Santos filed against Putnam County and the sheriff... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:22:59 PM
I am reading the instrument # 615258 regarding Santos you all can read this on the Putnam County offical records... ::MonkeyTongue::

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 16, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
OT~ Briant Rodriguez reunited with his mother.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6427361.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
O/T
Words can not describe how happy I am at hearing this news!
http://**/breakingnews/ci_12386079

Aho and AMEN!

 ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

This is great news.. ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 16, 2009, 09:31:53 PM
phew!! that's a lot to catch up on!!!!! I had to start at page 20, oh my I love the islands..... so HH what is it that you are waiting to find out is true... about misty and jr and a clinic??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:37:53 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:39:44 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::

This was before PDM bridges...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 16, 2009, 09:43:30 PM
Jersey please translate.   ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Heart thank you for the great news!!  ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::

Hey I wish I was an attorney.. Looks as though the civil lawsuit Santos filed against Putnam County and the sheriff... ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks JG!!   ::MonkeyDance:: I had no clue what that meant.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 09:50:16 PM
OT~ Briant Rodriguez reunited with his mother.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6427361.html


GREAT NEWS FROM OUR MONKEY REPORTERS.....MUFFY BEE AND PATRICIA

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/Monkey_news_198334a.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:51:24 PM
Jersey please translate.   ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Heart thank you for the great news!!  ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::

Hey I wish I was an attorney.. Looks as though the civil lawsuit Santos filed against Putnam County and the sheriff... ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks JG!!   ::MonkeyDance:: I had no clue what that meant.

This had to do what Art was talking about what happened to Santos... Also you will notice in one of the filings about  medical.. His shoulder was hurt...

Long story, but he says she calls Putnam county cops to report domestic battery, says he hit her. Cops show up, arrest him, giving her enough time to scoop up their 7 year old son and split for Kentucky where he’s been locked in a court battle for years.
Meanwhile, Putnam County DCF checks Jerry out, and clears him of the battery accusation. They drop the charges, but in process of cuffing him, cop breaks his shoulder–all caught on camera, an event that triggered a lawsuit against the county and yielded a five figure settlement recently.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 09:51:39 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::

This was before PDM bridges...

ummm....I don't ever remember reading about his previous employment, Jersey. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:54:03 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::

This was before PDM bridges...

ummm....I don't ever remember reading about his previous employment, Jersey. 

Its out there .. I think a landscaping company but I want to see if it was R & M construction..... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 09:55:46 PM
Jersey please translate.   ::MonkeyConfused::  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Heart thank you for the great news!!  ::MonkeyDance::   ::cartwheel::

Hey I wish I was an attorney.. Looks as though the civil lawsuit Santos filed against Putnam County and the sheriff... ::MonkeyTongue::

Thanks JG!!   ::MonkeyDance:: I had no clue what that meant.

This had to do what Art was talking about what happened to Santos... Also you will notice in one of the filings about  medical.. His shoulder was hurt...

Long story, but he says she calls Putnam county cops to report domestic battery, says he hit her. Cops show up, arrest him, giving her enough time to scoop up their 7 year old son and split for Kentucky where he’s been locked in a court battle for years.
Meanwhile, Putnam County DCF checks Jerry out, and clears him of the battery accusation. They drop the charges, but in process of cuffing him, cop breaks his shoulder–all caught on camera, an event that triggered a lawsuit against the county and yielded a five figure settlement recently.


I better mention that this was posted by Heart #908.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 10:02:55 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::

This was before PDM bridges...

ummm....I don't ever remember reading about his previous employment, Jersey. 

Its out there .. I think a landscaping company but I want to see if it was R & M construction..... ::MonkeyTongue::

Do you remember AnnaFL...there was some comment that he used to work for her...maybe that is it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 16, 2009, 10:03:33 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::

This was before PDM bridges...

ummm....I don't ever remember reading about his previous employment, Jersey. 

Its out there .. I think a landscaping company but I want to see if it was R & M construction..... ::MonkeyTongue::

Darn you JG you are making me think tonight  ::MonkeyHaHa:: Yes I remember something about him working at a construction company .....
R & M rings a bell, but I can't be sure why, sorry couldn't be of more help.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 16, 2009, 10:03:59 PM
I am looking for the construction company Ron worked for.. I think that how he met the pastor.. Was the construction company that he work for was  it R & M construction.. Very important... ::MonkeyTongue::

This was before PDM bridges...

Was it Superior Construction Jerseygirl?

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:0b4VZGK6OM8J:www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf+ron+cummings+previously+employed+for+construction&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 10:09:05 PM
This is what I found so far.. Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Thats heart but I thought there was another construction company he worked for...

And I thought it was R & M construction... R % M rings a bell... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 10:10:50 PM
This is what I found so far.. Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Thats Thanks heart but I thought there was another construction company he worked for...

And I thought it was R & M construction... R % M rings a bell... ::MonkeyTongue::


edit LOL Met to say Thanks.... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 10:15:03 PM
This is what I found so far.. Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Thats heart but I thought there was another construction company he worked for...

And I thought it was R & M construction... R % M rings a bell... ::MonkeyTongue::


I am reaching hard on this but wasn't he working for a landscaping company also possibly like you say, R&M?? I am thinking this landscaping company belonged to someone he knew? Maybe the Pastors wife owned it or an Aunt or?
OK going back to racking of the brain status.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 10:19:23 PM
This is what I found so far.. Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Thats heart but I thought there was another construction company he worked for...

And I thought it was R & M construction... R % M rings a bell... ::MonkeyTongue::


I am reaching hard on this but wasn't he working for a landscaping company also possibly like you say, R&M?? I am thinking this landscaping company belonged to someone he knew? Maybe the Pastors wife owned it or an Aunt or?
OK going back to racking of the brain status.


If we can figure this out I would also like to see the actual business address of the landscaping company too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 16, 2009, 10:27:19 PM
This is what I found so far.. Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Thats heart but I thought there was another construction company he worked for...

And I thought it was R & M construction... R % M rings a bell... ::MonkeyTongue::


I am reaching hard on this but wasn't he working for a landscaping company also possibly like you say, R&M?? I am thinking this landscaping company belonged to someone he knew? Maybe the Pastors wife owned it or an Aunt or?
OK going back to racking of the brain status.


If we can figure this out I would also like to see the actual business address of the landscaping company too.

I am lost here...what is the reason for trying to find out where Ron used to work?

I am going out of here tonight on a High note! Little Briant has been found alive...Leslee was found alive...2 missing children in one week found alive...My heart is a little less troubled tonight....this reaffirms ...never ever give up hope when a child is missing....Thank God! Now, if only Haleigh would be found, Trifecta!

nite all...talk to you tomorrow...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 10:31:13 PM
Nitey Nite, Cookie....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 16, 2009, 10:32:12 PM
Found this info on Superior Construction.. I am still looking for the landscaping company..


Superior Construction Co., Inc. was founded in Gary, Indiana in 1938 and has been in continuous operation serving the construction industry in Indiana and the surrounding Midwestern states since it's origination.  During that time Superior has successfully completed hundreds of construction projects ranging from schools, hospitals, commercial buildings, sewer and water treatment facilities, power plants, petrol-chemical plants, heavy industrial facilities, roads, bridges and interstate highways.

In 1987 Superior opened a Division Office in Jacksonville, Florida.  Since beginning operations in Florida, Superior has become one of theleading Road and Bridge contractors in the northeastern part of the state.  Superior has  completed dozens of projects for the Florida Department of Transportation, the Jacksonville Transportation Authority, the Jacksonville Port Authority, and The City of Jacksonville.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 10:40:00 PM
This is what I found so far.. Watts, who goes to the church Cummings attends, knew him from landscape work Cummings did at Watts Funeral Home in nearby San Mateo.

Thats heart but I thought there was another construction company he worked for...

And I thought it was R & M construction... R % M rings a bell... ::MonkeyTongue::


I am reaching hard on this but wasn't he working for a landscaping company also possibly like you say, R&M?? I am thinking this landscaping company belonged to someone he knew? Maybe the Pastors wife owned it or an Aunt or?
OK going back to racking of the brain status.


If we can figure this out I would also like to see the actual business address of the landscaping company too.

I am lost here...what is the reason for trying to find out where Ron used to work?

I am going out of here tonight on a High note! Little Briant has been found alive...Leslee was found alive...2 missing children in one week found alive...My heart is a little less troubled tonight....this reaffirms ...never ever give up hope when a child is missing....Thank God! Now, if only Haleigh would be found, Trifecta!

nite all...talk to you tomorrow...

I am just looking to see where it is located to see if it is in Satsuma or not? It seems like Ron is currently having a hard time finding a job right now. We all know the economy is bad :(  I wonder if the landscaping job is out of area also. Maybe the jobs in Satsuma are slim pickings? That pretty much all I had in mind at the moment.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 11:13:22 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79975&page=34

Post # 847

The person who is being referred to as JS (Jerry Santos) is a poster named Pirate on WS. I scanned through and found a post that post very possibly conflicts with this poster as being JS?
Poster named Pirate correct?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 11:23:28 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79975&page=34

Post # 847

The person who is being referred to as JS (Jerry Santos) is a poster named Pirate on WS. I scanned through and found a post that post very possibly conflicts with this poster as being JS?
Poster named Pirate correct?

I went and read the post but did not find any connection with the two. Did I MISS something??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 11:29:14 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79975&page=34

Post # 847

The person who is being referred to as JS (Jerry Santos) is a poster named Pirate on WS. I scanned through and found a post that post very possibly conflicts with this poster as being JS?
Poster named Pirate correct?

I went and read the post but did not find any connection with the two. Did I MISS something??
No Grama. I am saying the same thing. I don't think there is a connection there either.
It was being said at AH's website that this poster named Pirate was JS. Much has been said about JS and I just came across that post which leads me to believe that the poster on WS named Pirate is not JS.
(I think we both came to the same conclusion.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 11:33:11 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79975&page=34

Post # 847

The person who is being referred to as JS (Jerry Santos) is a poster named Pirate on WS. I scanned through and found a post that post very possibly conflicts with this poster as being JS?
Poster named Pirate correct?

I think they are as close as ...California is to FLorida.
I went and read the post but did not find any connection with the two. Did I MISS something??
No Grama. I am saying the same thing. I don't think there is a connection there either.
It was being said at AH's website that this poster named Pirate was JS. Much has been said about JS and I just came across that post which leads me to believe that the poster on WS named Pirate is not JS.
(I think we both came to the same conclusion.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 16, 2009, 11:35:08 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79975&page=34

Post # 847

The person who is being referred to as JS (Jerry Santos) is a poster named Pirate on WS. I scanned through and found a post that post very possibly conflicts with this poster as being JS?
Poster named Pirate correct?

I think they are as close as ...California is to FLorida.
I went and read the post but did not find any connection with the two. Did I MISS something??
No Grama. I am saying the same thing. I don't think there is a connection there either.
It was being said at AH's website that this poster named Pirate was JS. Much has been said about JS and I just came across that post which leads me to believe that the poster on WS named Pirate is not JS.
(I think we both came to the same conclusion.)


I think hey are about as close as California is to Florida.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 16, 2009, 11:37:58 PM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 16, 2009, 11:58:35 PM

No Grama. I am saying the same thing. I don't think there is a connection there either.
It was being said at AH's website that this poster named Pirate was JS  . Much has been said about JS and I just came across that post which leads me to believe that the poster on WS named Pirate is not JS.
(I think we both came to the same conclusion.)

If Art said it then I would not doubt it, but if a commenter said it then it's pretty iffy.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 12:02:27 AM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::

I don't ever recall hearing the name Santos other than a report about the bus stop.  His name never surfaced other than that, and just tonight when one of our posters posted info from Art's about him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 12:07:45 AM

No Grama. I am saying the same thing. I don't think there is a connection there either.
It was being said at AH's website that this poster named Pirate was JS  . Much has been said about JS and I just came across that post which leads me to believe that the poster on WS named Pirate is not JS.
(I think we both came to the same conclusion.)

If Art said it then I would not doubt it, but if a commenter said it then it's pretty iffy.

No I agree it was tied to something on of the commenter's said and then I searched some more and found this:
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TRCMMNTNCB19UQHBF/p106

(Read the first post)
It is saying that "a poster named Pirate on WS" said kind of thing.
Who knows where the poster Pirate got the information or not?
It is very possible the whole thing is just a rumor about Ron and an alleged altercation with Misty but we will have to just wait and see.
I was looking more at whether that poster "Pirate" could be JS or not and from what was said rather innocently by the poster Pirate on WS in past posts I don't believe that it is him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 12:14:03 AM

No Grama. I am saying the same thing. I don't think there is a connection there either.
It was being said at AH's website that this poster named Pirate was JS  . Much has been said about JS and I just came across that post which leads me to believe that the poster on WS named Pirate is not JS.
(I think we both came to the same conclusion.)

If Art said it then I would not doubt it, but if a commenter said it then it's pretty iffy.

No I agree it was tied to something on of the commenter's said and then I searched some more and found this:
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/orange-fl/TRCMMNTNCB19UQHBF/p106

(Read the first post)
It is saying that "a poster named Pirate on WS" said kind of thing.
Who knows where the poster Pirate got the information or not?
It is very possible the whole thing is just a rumor about Ron and an alleged altercation with Misty but we will have to just wait and see.
I was looking more at whether that poster "Pirate" could be JS or not and from what was said rather innocently by the poster Pirate on WS in past posts I don't believe that it is him.

And another thing...JS lives near RC's mobile home on Green lane correct?
RC and MC now live at GGM Sykes and her house is no where near Green Ln right?
If I've lost anyone I appoligize. I think I need a break here. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 12:22:05 AM
Goodnight Monkeys.

I am also leaving here on a high note and I am praying that little Haleigh is found before I sign back on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 17, 2009, 01:04:31 AM

And another thing...JS lives near RC's mobile home on Green lane correct?
RC and MC now live at GGM Sykes and her house is no where near Green Ln right?
If I've lost anyone I appoligize. I think I need a break here. 

I was thinking the same thing.  And from previous posts I was also thinking that the pirate person lived in the green lane area too though.  I'm going to try to search back through the posts to find that.   Good night :2waver: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 17, 2009, 01:17:18 AM
I really don't think Pirate is JS, I have read his/her posts and I don't think it fits. I am not sure who the person that posted on AH was talking about but I don't think it was anyone that has posted over yonder. Maybe it's just somebody on Topix .... I never read there, unless someone points me to something interesting.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 17, 2009, 04:01:49 AM

 I've been reading up on pirate and I think He/She might be someone within the S/C families or LE, Just knows too much info too quick.
Found in thread 12 posted by Idgie
"Pirate over yonder does not like Ronald. She reminds me a lot of Anflorida and they conspired a lot against Ronald. I would not take her word just because she is a local."


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: little lulu on May 17, 2009, 07:27:55 AM
Happy Sunday Monkeys!

Miss a few days here and am totally LOST.  Sounds like you all have been busy as usual! Was hoping for some good news on Haleigh, maybe today!
I had to take a break for a few days, was getting totally consumed with this case and the last morning I was up at 3am...I knew I had to give it a rest. 
Am praying today....will be the day they find her.  God Bless Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 07:41:34 AM
Good Morning Monkeys....Does this look familiar????

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/DSC00560.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 17, 2009, 08:51:31 AM
Good Morning Monkeys....Does this look familiar????

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/DSC00560.jpg)

morning grama, it looks like that circle in satsuma to me....what is it??

and on ot, I hope all ya'll heard that little Briant from california has been found alive!

That is the 2nd miracle I have seen in as many weeks, with Joshua being also found alive.
So, to keep hope that Haleigh might be found, is what I am going to think again today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 09:48:08 AM
Good Morning Monkeys....Does this look familiar????

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/DSC00560.jpg)

Good morning again Grama, where did you find that little picture??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 09:52:05 AM
Good Morning, Mio.. you doing well this morning..  it's misting here.. nice soft rain..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 09:54:57 AM
Oh, I just went to PB and did a search.  Reminded me of our trails...back and forth.

I seen a video of Briant with his mom....THEY CUT ALL HIS HAIR OFF!!!!! (I am assuming the abductors)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TxLady2 on May 17, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::

If I am not mistaken, Pirate is a female, but does live in the next county over. She has never attacked anyone.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 17, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
Good Morning, Mio.. you doing well this morning..  it's misting here.. nice soft rain..

Good Morning Mlee.....yes thank you, had an early sleep night, no rain here yet, just major blue skies with the sun comming through these giant oak trees. Hope your day goes well too.
 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::

If I am not mistaken, Pirate is a female, but does live in the next county over. She has never attacked anyone.

Someone just trying to stir the pot..and get some conversation going.  Something to ignore, I would say.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 10:47:11 AM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::

If I am not mistaken, Pirate is a female, but does live in the next county over. She has never attacked anyone.
Good Morning, and I'm with you on that, she has never attacked anyone, and I actually find her posts informative.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 10:47:41 AM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::

If I am not mistaken, Pirate is a female, but does live in the next county over. She has never attacked anyone.

Someone just trying to stir the pot..and get some conversation going.  Something to ignore, I would say.

your probably right Grama..  ::MonkeyTongue::(http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt181/mjlee_bucket/pot-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 10:51:48 AM
Grama, we need to remember to ask JG about Santo's..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 11:25:46 AM
 http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/community_altamonte_blog/2009/05/national-vigil-for-hope.html             About the National Vigil


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 17, 2009, 11:27:09 AM
this is sort of o/t, but the other day we were talking of the attempted abduction of small girl in orlando. And the similarity of rc's friend to suspects sketch. This is new video of THAT man, who now they say is hispanic. (sorry if this has already been talked on, I am behind on reading here..)
 http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/16/video_released_of_person_of_interest_in_child_attempted_abduction_case.html?cid=rss



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 11:31:46 AM
Thanks Mioyshi ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 11:36:03 AM
JUST A REMINDER.......

Originally posted by Heart yesterday....

Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony - Aaliyah Bedwell – BNN Radio Schedule
Posted on May 16th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture

snipped.....

Sunday May/17 3pm Central we will be looking at the Haleigh Cummings case, as of right now the panel is set to include all of the major reporters in the case. TJ Hart of The Sky 97.3 Talk Radio out of Gainesville Florida, Emmy winning journalist Art Harris, William “Cobra” Staubs Bondsman and Private Investigator, Crime writer Denny Griffin and of course our own reporter on this case Ms. Pickles. In other words we have the entire cast of people that have been reporting and investigating this case! This is a do not miss show.

To tune in to either show just head over to www.blogtalkradio.com  a few minutes before 3pm Central, you will see the link to listen in on the front page. Both shows will be call in’s so dial in with your questions and comments.
Simon and Jan Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120899

3PM Central       4 PM Eastern       1PM Pacific    2PM Mountain
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 11:42:38 AM
Thanks GramaMonkey ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
I can't understand how someone tied JS to that screen name. I read all the posts I could find from that person and the poster seems very nuetral for the most part. On AH's website someone left a comment that the poster attacked RC in posts. I didn't see that either.
I appologize. I had to rule out the possibility of that poster being JS and then I shared it without giving a proper heads up.
 ::MonkeyConfused::

If I am not mistaken, Pirate is a female, but does live in the next county over. She has never attacked anyone.
Good Morning, and I'm with you on that, she has never attacked anyone, and I actually find her posts informative.
I'd never read that person (Pirate's) posts before and I too thought they were just pretty much informative. No attacking to either camp necessarily. After researching stuff last night I agree with Grama about the subject. It's something to ignore.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 11:53:48 AM
Thanks GramaMonkey ::MonkeyCool::

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/yourewelcome_monkey-1.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 12:10:41 PM
Oh, I just went to PB and did a search.  Reminded me of our trails...back and forth.

I seen a video of Briant with his mom....THEY CUT ALL HIS HAIR OFF!!!!! (I am assuming the abductors)

I saw the video also. The hair being shaved managed to served two purposes I believe. Firstly to try to hide his identity and secondly to add insult to injury. I'm not sure if little Briant's parents are traditional minded or not but allowing Briant to grow his hair long says that they are. Alls I know is that the little man is back home with his Momma and I can do nothing but praise Mexico's citizens, LE and authorities for being digilant and solving this case.
There are now three children who have been returned safely recently and I pray for this to be the result and outcome for many more of these cases.





Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cece on May 17, 2009, 01:29:13 PM
Hi Monkeys.  I'm just catching up here & stopping by to check on Haleigh.  I hope everyone is enjoying their day.  ::MonkeyAngel::

I think this is a rather new video:

http://www.youtube.com/v/GCWAOnlsnSI&hl=en&fs=1


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 17, 2009, 01:51:29 PM
TONIGHT ON DANA PRETZER - NOTE ROBIN SAX WILL BE GIVING 2 BOOKS AWAY:

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www.scaredmonkeys.com/radio


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 17, 2009, 02:03:36 PM
http://www.news4jax.com/video/%2019466825/index.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 17, 2009, 02:07:11 PM
Thank you for the video CeCe.  I hope they find this little girl soon. It's breaking my heart.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 03:24:41 PM
Thanks Klaas for the update....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 04:11:58 PM
WOW I think Cobra forgot he was on air...He dropped the F bomb.... Cobra speaking good about Johnny S.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 04:20:27 PM
Hey there ! Thought i was the only one listening .. I think cobra is allowed to talk  like that because it's only on the net .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 04:56:53 PM
WOW now why would Kim need a lawyer?? And why does she want Cobra run outta there?? Somethings not right here..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 05:02:55 PM
Hey there ! Thought i was the only one listening .. I think cobra is allowed to talk  like that because it's only on the net .
Hey ask Cobra if Misty hit JR at the docs office the other day


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 05:10:40 PM
Think i was only allowed one question . I asked about jr and the brick . Wish I would have remembered about that .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 05:13:16 PM
Think i was only allowed one question . I asked about jr and the brick . Wish I would have remembered about that .
Ah I see...Do u understand whats going on between Kim and Cobra??I was really shocked to hear that..Glad you asked that it was a good question im not registered there ..therefore cant ask anything..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
I asked ,not sure if they will get to it .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 05:15:17 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 05:22:24 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .
Thanks... ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 05:40:47 PM
Good Evening Monkeys...... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 05:44:55 PM
Good Evening Monkeys...... ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyTongue::
Good evening JG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 05:44:56 PM
JG , Did you pick up anything new from the show ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 06:01:29 PM
JG , Did you pick up anything new from the show ?

I just go home from work alittle while ago. kids are watching tv, so i was going to wait until they get done..  ::MonkeyTongue:: What was said?

Edit: Fixed monkey tongue


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 06:18:05 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .

I should beable to listen to it when they post todays show.. So nothing interesting? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 06:21:49 PM
Thank You MuffyBee...

Yhe mods are terriffic. I want to Thank You all for all your hard  work and time that you put into SM... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 06:22:31 PM
Thank You MuffyBee...

Yhe The mods are terriffic. I want to Thank You all for all your hard  work and time that you put into SM... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 06:37:33 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .

I should beable to listen to it when they post todays show.. So nothing interesting? ::MonkeyTongue::
I musta been out of the loop too long...Did you guys know that something was going on between Kim n Cobra? I thought she brought him here..Now he said shes trying to run him outta there??? Doesnt make sence.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 06:43:05 PM
WOW now why would Kim need a lawyer?? And why does she want Cobra run outta there?? Somethings not right here..


whhhaaaattttt?
now this is a surprise! something is not right with the whole Kim/Cobra fiasco...
I know that a lot on here like  Kim but I feel like she is only doing this for publicity ...who ever heard of her before this happened with Haleigh?  Now she is on tv....would she have been on tv if she had not offered her services to a high profile missing child? there are other missing children who don't get the attention, why not them? Because then she wouldn't be on tv!!!She is only out for herself if you want my 2 cents worth...if I am wrong, then I am wrong...just my feelings on her....this whole issue on getting custody of Jr. could have been done without all the mudslinging towards Ron and done behind the scenes..... Ron and Crystal were getting along it seemed and sharing their grief together over Haleigh missing until KP came to the "rescue"...jmo...I don't really think that Crystal has been comfortable in all of the bad mouthing of Ron...She didn't do it before KP came on the scene did she? they may not have liked each other but at least in the beginning they were tolerating each other for the sake of Haleigh...
anyways,,for what it's worth...I will be watching Geraldo tonight to see if anything new comes out..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 07:19:54 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 07:24:05 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 07:35:33 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..
What do you think is going on with Cobra  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 07:36:17 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..

No I didnt but I read some comments posted... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 07:37:05 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..
What do you think is going on with Cobra  ::MonkeyConfused::

money money money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 07:37:09 PM
He talked reallwell about J sheffeild and Santos . Dang near sainted them .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 07:37:42 PM
Can a sweet a monkey give a summary on what was said on the interview from today... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 07:38:44 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..
What do you think is going on with Cobra  ::MonkeyConfused::

money money money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They did spend over 5 minutes talking about sending donations


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..
What do you think is going on with Cobra  ::MonkeyConfused::

money money money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
They did spend over 5 minutes talking about sending donations

geeze.. I thought this was about finding  Haleigh not finding money...JMO.. ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 17, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
Just Thinking Out Loud... I ::MonkeyTongue:: I wonder if cobra is getting no where and is stirring up the pot....
I dunno JG ..Something isnt right..Did you listen to the radio talk? He stopped Art from saying stuff also..

I haven't been able to listen yet. By he do you mean Cobra? That's strange. Did you hear them mention anything about Ron being at the convenience store at 2:30?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 07:57:02 PM
Mostly going over things we already know here .  Kim and cobra was new . they went back over jerome . when I asked about jr and the brick at the motel ,they said jr picked through several to find the right one , sure he's seen it done before . confident that ron was at work . on camera at a store on the way home at 2:30.
no one asked about the bus stop or misty maybe slapping jr at the clinic . I tried but they were spreading out the questioners .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .

I should beable to listen to it when they post todays show.. So nothing interesting? ::MonkeyTongue::
I musta been out of the loop too long...Did you guys know that something was going on between Kim n Cobra? I thought she brought him here..Now he said shes trying to run him outta there??? Doesnt make sence.

I thought maybe Kim brought him in also but that was a misconception. KP did know Cobra and what not but the person who brought Cobra in Was Rev. Grund (I hope I spelled his name correctly.) Kim might have though that his presence was to her benefit but the way I see it is that Cobra cares about one thing and one thing only and that is finding little Haleigh. Period.
Sure would like to peek into that hornets nest. (Ok I admit...I'm nosey too.)
Heh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 08:15:17 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .

I should beable to listen to it when they post todays show.. So nothing interesting? ::MonkeyTongue::
I musta been out of the loop too long...Did you guys know that something was going on between Kim n Cobra? I thought she brought him here..Now he said shes trying to run him outta there??? Doesnt make sence.

I thought maybe Kim brought him in also but that was a misconception. KP did know Cobra and what not but the person who brought Cobra in Was Rev. Grund (I hope I spelled his name correctly.) Kim might have though that his presence was to her benefit but the way I see it is that Cobra cares about one thing and one thing only and that is finding little Haleigh. Period.
Sure would like to peek into that hornets nest. (Ok I admit...I'm nosey too.)
Heh.

Kim and Cobra do have history together...she handled his/wifes divorce and I think a home was bought/sold to one of them...either to Kim or by Kim?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
They went over the kim and cobra so fast I missed it .

I should beable to listen to it when they post todays show.. So nothing interesting? ::MonkeyTongue::
I musta been out of the loop too long...Did you guys know that something was going on between Kim n Cobra? I thought she brought him here..Now he said shes trying to run him outta there??? Doesnt make sence.

I thought maybe Kim brought him in also but that was a misconception. KP did know Cobra and what not but the person who brought Cobra in Was Rev. Grund (I hope I spelled his name correctly.) Kim might have though that his presence was to her benefit but the way I see it is that Cobra cares about one thing and one thing only and that is finding little Haleigh. Period.
Sure would like to peek into that hornets nest. (Ok I admit...I'm nosey too.)
Heh.

Kim and Cobra do have history together...she handled his/wifes divorce and I think a home was bought/sold to one of them...either to Kim or by Kim?
Oh OK thanks Cookie. So Kim was Cobra's wife's or should I say ex-wife's Attorney?
Wow. They should just be best of friends then. I wonder how that worked out about the home transaction thing though...
I'm just throwing out a theory here (I hope that's ok) but what if he had to pay for his wifes lawyer fees and then something was worked out about that?
I dunno. (Still trying to wrap my brain around the being friends with the ex's attorney thing.)  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 08:32:52 PM
I guess some drug folks arent too happy about cobra..They mentioned something about Rons where abouts before work and Art i think was gonna answer and Cobra shut him down. They are working on something there he said.Nay Nay and Amber he said are scared to death..If I remember more Ill post it..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 08:33:07 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 08:38:29 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...

Oh ok. um. I'm not familiar with divorces and stuff but I guess it is possible that one lawyer could be used by both parties? Somehow? Like if they were in agreeance on everything to do with the divorce? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to this divorce stuff so please bare with me. The only divorces I know about are either on TV or people I know and none of them were so civil but I guess it could happen?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 08:44:08 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...

Oh ok. um. I'm not familiar with divorces and stuff but I guess it is possible that one lawyer could be used by both parties? Somehow? Like if they were in agreeance on everything to do with the divorce? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to this divorce stuff so please bare with me. The only divorces I know about are either on TV or people I know and none of them were so civil but I guess it could happen?

No they  cannot they represent both parties.. That would constitute a Conflict of interest..  If they allowed that, one of the parties in the divorce case would end up getting the shaft..   A couple might contact an attorney for advise on filing for a divorce in general.. but not as a couple filing for divorce.  Divorce issues become a War real fast, especially with the issues of custody and division of property.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 08:52:43 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...

Oh ok. um. I'm not familiar with divorces and stuff but I guess it is possible that one lawyer could be used by both parties? Somehow? Like if they were in agreeance on everything to do with the divorce? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to this divorce stuff so please bare with me. The only divorces I know about are either on TV or people I know and none of them were so civil but I guess it could happen?

No they  cannot they represent both parties.. That would constitute a Conflict of interest..  If they allowed that, one of the parties in the divorce case would end up getting the shaft..   A couple might contact an attorney for advise on filing for a divorce in general.. but not as a couple filing for divorce.  Divorce issues become a War real fast, especially with the issues of custody and division of property.

Thank you Mlee. That stuff always confuses me.
I'm listening to the radio show. Here is the link in case anyone missed it like me.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 08:53:38 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...

Oh ok. um. I'm not familiar with divorces and stuff but I guess it is possible that one lawyer could be used by both parties? Somehow? Like if they were in agreeance on everything to do with the divorce? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to this divorce stuff so please bare with me. The only divorces I know about are either on TV or people I know and none of them were so civil but I guess it could happen?

No they  cannot they represent both parties.. That would constitute a Conflict of interest..  If they allowed that, one of the parties in the divorce case would end up getting the shaft..   A couple might contact an attorney for advise on filing for a divorce in general.. but not as a couple filing for divorce.  Divorce issues become a War real fast, especially with the issues of custody and division of property.

errr...my ex husband and I used the same lawyer when we got divorced...so I know first hand and for a fact that it can and is done....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
With charges like this it had to Chucks bail
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754155&IMG=58595


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 08:56:10 PM
Another found alive !!! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Red on May 17, 2009, 08:57:08 PM
The Dana Pretzer Show On Scared Monkeys Radio - Sunday, May 17, 2009 - Tonights Guests: Danielle Parker, Alexis Moore, Randi Rosen and Robin Sax with “Nothing but the Sax”

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Join Dana tonight at 9 pm et as he welcomes guests:

Danielle Parker - Discussing the unsolved murder case of her mother, Gail Parker.

On March 5, 1993, Gail was admitted to Kino Community Hospital.  Danielle says Gail suffered from bipolar disorder and had stopped taking her medicine.  However, hours later, the hospital allowed Gail to leave wearing only a blue bathing suit and a long, white coverall.  Danielle says the hospital never called any family members to come retrieve Gail, who eventually got in a taxi. Police say Gail was last seen around 1:30 a.m. at a convenience store at East Golf Links and South Houghton roads.  The next morning, Danielle says three bicyclists found Gail’s remains on the outskirts of Tucson in a desert area south of Broadway on Barclay Park Loop.  Authorities say she died from a blow to the back of the head and hypothermia.

Alexis Moore and Randi Rosen  - Survivors In Action, “No Victim Left Behind”
Robin Sax - Robin appears in her weekly role in ”Nothing But The Sax” … discussing the current crimes cases and will give away two books that night to lucky listeners

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 08:58:59 PM
Another found alive !!! ::MonkeyDance::


WHO????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 09:02:51 PM
The four year old girl in texas . sorry I missed the name . missing since yesterday


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 09:05:35 PM
I did not listen to the blogger news, but was reading another place.

It was stated that Ron was on camera at the Kangaroo Convenience store at 2:30 AM.... and was home at 3AM.  So, if Misty was on the phone at 2:30AM...who was she talking to...or who was she screaming at???



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 09:06:23 PM
I messed up ,missing since thursday. this girl
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/44981052.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 09:07:04 PM
The four year old girl in texas . sorry I missed the name . missing since yesterday

This is such great news! I'm praying that all of those missing all returned to their families and loved ones!
Aho and Amen!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 17, 2009, 09:07:13 PM
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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 09:07:55 PM
The four year old girl in texas . sorry I missed the name . missing since yesterday

oh goodness! had not heard about this one...do we have a thread or a link for her? who took her?
you aren't speaking of Leslee are you? she was found a few days ago....or is this a different one?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 09:09:25 PM
it is Leslee...I read your link that you provided...
wonderful news isn't it! bears repeating again and again....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 09:09:41 PM
Thank-you for telling us Dana's show is on  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 09:10:37 PM
This is a comment from a poster at WS who was at the vigil    Originally Posted by BreatheLife21 
went to the vigil at Lake Mary .
I saw Crystal ,Marie and the baby
Marie and Crystal spoke ,but Crystal really broke down when she spoke.
all of the local news was there , but not a lot of people.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 09:13:37 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...
Hello monkeys,  I posted a post about this when I first came back from Satsuma, Kim had talked to me about Cobra and how she knew him and I posted the info here for her! Anyway.....Yes she did handle the divorce for Cobra;s ex wife, but the way that went down was her and her humsband and Cobra and his wife were all friends and knew each other......she said one day she got a call from the both of them, telling her that they had decided to seperate but remain friends, she said it was and agreement between the boht of them and they asked her to help them with the divorce, she said she told them she couldnt reprecent them both and what dod they want to do........she said Cobra told her to represent hisw wife and draw up the papers the way they agreed and he would sign them and the whole thing ended on a friendly term....The home was something thay Cocra and his ex had in both their names and was gonna put up for sale and Kim decided to help them move things alone more quickly she would purchase the home and she did!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 17, 2009, 09:13:42 PM
it is Leslee...I read your link that you provided...
wonderful news isn't it! bears repeating again and again....
I feel so stupid It just dawned on me that NG was a repeat . Sorry everyone  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 09:15:27 PM
he had scouted out her neighborhood for 3 days before taking Lesley? <<<have seen her name spelled several different ways..>>>>>
3 days! that is frightening!! YUK!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 09:16:04 PM
it is Leslee...I read your link that you provided...
wonderful news isn't it! bears repeating again and again....
I feel so stupid It just dawned on me that NG was a repeat . Sorry everyone  ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::  that's ok!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 17, 2009, 09:16:28 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...
Hello monkeys,  I posted a post about this when I first came back from Satsuma, Kim had talked to me about Cobra and how she knew him and I posted the info here for her! Anyway.....Yes she did handle the divorce for Cobra;s ex wife, but the way that went down was her and her humsband and Cobra and his wife were all friends and knew each other......she said one day she got a call from the both of them, telling her that they had decided to seperate but remain friends, she said it was and agreement between the boht of them and they asked her to help them with the divorce, she said she told them she couldnt reprecent them both and what dod they want to do........she said Cobra told her to represent hisw wife and draw up the papers the way they agreed and he would sign them and the whole thing ended on a friendly term....The home was something thay Cocra and his ex had in both their names and was gonna put up for sale and Kim decided to help them move things alone more quickly she would purchase the home and she did!!!!!
Thank you for clearing that up HH. It's good to know that people really can be civil at things like that. So it was ended on friendly terms then. Good.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
I did not listen to the blogger news, but was reading another place.

It was stated that Ron was on camera at the Kangaroo Convenience store at 2:30 AM.... and was home at 3AM.  So, if Misty was on the phone at 2:30AM...who was she talking to...or who was she screaming at???



So, there is a basis for the story..... hummmmmm..  Where are you reading??   I have missed the issues of screaming..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 09:19:41 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...
Hello monkeys,  I posted a post about this when I first came back from Satsuma, Kim had talked to me about Cobra and how she knew him and I posted the info here for her! Anyway.....Yes she did handle the divorce for Cobra;s ex wife, but the way that went down was her and her humsband and Cobra and his wife were all friends and knew each other......she said one day she got a call from the both of them, telling her that they had decided to seperate but remain friends, she said it was and agreement between the boht of them and they asked her to help them with the divorce, she said she told them she couldnt reprecent them both and what dod they want to do........she said Cobra told her to represent hisw wife and draw up the papers the way they agreed and he would sign them and the whole thing ended on a friendly term....The home was something thay Cocra and his ex had in both their names and was gonna put up for sale and Kim decided to help them move things alone more quickly she would purchase the home and she did!!!!!

ok...so I was pretty much right going from memory ....
wasn't there an article about this somewhere as well? or it was on a show or something...
my head is spinning trying to keep and remember all of this
couldn't make up this stuff I am tellin ya!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...
Hello monkeys,  I posted a post about this when I first came back from Satsuma, Kim had talked to me about Cobra and how she knew him and I posted the info here for her! Anyway.....Yes she did handle the divorce for Cobra;s ex wife, but the way that went down was her and her humsband and Cobra and his wife were all friends and knew each other......she said one day she got a call from the both of them, telling her that they had decided to seperate but remain friends, she said it was and agreement between the boht of them and they asked her to help them with the divorce, she said she told them she couldnt reprecent them both and what dod they want to do........she said Cobra told her to represent hisw wife and draw up the papers the way they agreed and he would sign them and the whole thing ended on a friendly term....The home was something thay Cocra and his ex had in both their names and was gonna put up for sale and Kim decided to help them move things alone more quickly she would purchase the home and she did!!!!!
Thank you for clearing that up HH. It's good to know that people really can be civil at things like that. So it was ended on friendly terms then. Good.
Hi HH...I know you KNOW people down there...Can you please answer my question from earlier..Whats going on with Cobra and Kim?? Why does Kim want Cobra outta there now??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
I did not listen to the blogger news, but was reading another place.

It was stated that Ron was on camera at the Kangaroo Convenience store at 2:30 AM.... and was home at 3AM.  So, if Misty was on the phone at 2:30AM...who was she talking to...or who was she screaming at???



So, there is a basis for the story..... hummmmmm..  Where are you reading??   I have missed the issues of screaming..


Well, the neighbor had said he hear screaming at 2:30AM.....so....was it Misty...eems to fit the picture.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 17, 2009, 09:31:05 PM
it is Leslee...I read your link that you provided...
wonderful news isn't it! bears repeating again and again....
I feel so stupid It just dawned on me that NG was a repeat . Sorry everyone  ::MonkeyConfused::

Don't worry about it sweety.. It's okay....    ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 09:31:48 PM
I guess some drug folks arent too happy about cobra..They mentioned something about Rons where abouts before work and Art i think was gonna answer and Cobra shut him down. They are working on something there he said.Nay Nay and Amber he said are scared to death..If I remember more Ill post it..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 09:36:46 PM
I guess some drug folks arent too happy about cobra..They mentioned something about Rons where abouts before work and Art i think was gonna answer and Cobra shut him down. They are working on something there he said.Nay Nay and Amber he said are scared to death..If I remember more Ill post it..
Something about someone oweing RC money or him oweing someone money..Thats when Cobra shut either Art or TJ down.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 17, 2009, 09:39:15 PM
I guess some drug folks arent too happy about cobra..They mentioned something about Rons where abouts before work and Art i think was gonna answer and Cobra shut him down. They are working on something there he said.Nay Nay and Amber he said are scared to death..If I remember more Ill post it..
Something about someone oweing RC money or him oweing someone money..Thats when Cobra shut either Art or TJ down.
Like to hear more about that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 09:43:18 PM
I guess some drug folks arent too happy about cobra..They mentioned something about Rons where abouts before work and Art i think was gonna answer and Cobra shut him down. They are working on something there he said.Nay Nay and Amber he said are scared to death..If I remember more Ill post it..
Something about someone oweing RC money or him oweing someone money..Thats when Cobra shut either Art or TJ down.
Like to hear more about that.
Me too Rosie...cant get any info anywhere though..fustrating


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 09:44:19 PM
<snipped>     Hi HH...I know you KNOW people down there...Can you please answer my question from earlier..Whats going on with Cobra and Kim?? Why does Kim want Cobra outta there now??



  I also spoke about this and I wish  I could say for a fact what the problem was but.......Kim said at the time that she had told Cobra she no longer needed him to work with her because everything he had gave her up to that point, she turned over to LE and they had had the info and had already checked into it and had it in there files, that was right after Cobra had left the first time and I got the feeling then by the faces she was making when talking about him that she didnt agree with the way he was doing things, and then she said .....but if he wants to come back and continue on his own he is welcome to do so, but I think LE is on top of things and he isnt gonna be able to tell them anything they dont already know!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: AZSunny on May 17, 2009, 09:44:27 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...

Oh ok. um. I'm not familiar with divorces and stuff but I guess it is possible that one lawyer could be used by both parties? Somehow? Like if they were in agreeance on everything to do with the divorce? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to this divorce stuff so please bare with me. The only divorces I know about are either on TV or people I know and none of them were so civil but I guess it could happen?

No they  cannot they represent both parties.. That would constitute a Conflict of interest..  If they allowed that, one of the parties in the divorce case would end up getting the shaft..   A couple might contact an attorney for advise on filing for a divorce in general.. but not as a couple filing for divorce.  Divorce issues become a War real fast, especially with the issues of custody and division of property.

errr...my ex husband and I used the same lawyer when we got divorced...so I know first hand and for a fact that it can and is done....

Yes, it is done all the time.  It can be done when the parties are in agreement with all issues, and work out property divisions between themselves.  Attorney then just submit the agreements. Much cheaper if you can do it this way! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 09:49:13 PM
<snipped>     Hi HH...I know you KNOW people down there...Can you please answer my question from earlier..Whats going on with Cobra and Kim?? Why does Kim want Cobra outta there now??



  I also spoke about this and I wish  I could say for a fact what the problem was but.......Kim said at the time that she had told Cobra she no longer needed him to work with her because everything he had gave her up to that point, she turned over to LE and they had had the info and had already checked into it and had it in there files, that was right after Cobra had left the first time and I got the feeling then by the faces she was making when talking about him that she didnt agree with the way he was doing things, and then she said .....but if he wants to come back and continue on his own he is welcome to do so, but I think LE is on top of things and he isnt gonna be able to tell them anything they dont already know!
Thank You HH..I knew you would know...Also why would Kim get a lawyer for herself when she is a lawyer???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Red on May 17, 2009, 09:52:42 PM
Thank-you for telling us Dana's show is on  ::MonkeyCool::

First couple of emails to Dana get Robin Sax new book


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
<snipped>     Hi HH...I know you KNOW people down there...Can you please answer my question from earlier..Whats going on with Cobra and Kim?? Why does Kim want Cobra outta there now??



  I also spoke about this and I wish  I could say for a fact what the problem was but.......Kim said at the time that she had told Cobra she no longer needed him to work with her because everything he had gave her up to that point, she turned over to LE and they had had the info and had already checked into it and had it in there files, that was right after Cobra had left the first time and I got the feeling then by the faces she was making when talking about him that she didnt agree with the way he was doing things, and then she said .....but if he wants to come back and continue on his own he is welcome to do so, but I think LE is on top of things and he isnt gonna be able to tell them anything they dont already know!
Thank You HH..I knew you would know...Also why would Kim get a lawyer for herself when she is a lawyer???
uhhhh....could be for either slander or to protect her from all the glammer seekers in this story.....(wink wink )


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 09:55:51 PM
<snipped>     Hi HH...I know you KNOW people down there...Can you please answer my question from earlier..Whats going on with Cobra and Kim?? Why does Kim want Cobra outta there now??



  I also spoke about this and I wish  I could say for a fact what the problem was but.......Kim said at the time that she had told Cobra she no longer needed him to work with her because everything he had gave her up to that point, she turned over to LE and they had had the info and had already checked into it and had it in there files, that was right after Cobra had left the first time and I got the feeling then by the faces she was making when talking about him that she didnt agree with the way he was doing things, and then she said .....but if he wants to come back and continue on his own he is welcome to do so, but I think LE is on top of things and he isnt gonna be able to tell them anything they dont already know!
Thank You HH..I knew you would know...Also why would Kim get a lawyer for herself when she is a lawyer???
uhhhh....could be for either slander or to protect her from all the glammer seekers in this story.....(wink wink )
Ahhh Thanks so much HH...I been waiting to catch you since I listened to that talk radio thing today cuz I knew you would maybe know...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 09:59:05 PM
Your welcome!!!!!!!!!      God Bless Haleigh!!!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 10:05:15 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????

Im tuned into it also cookie...no mention at the start of the show about Haleigh ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 10:14:21 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????

Im tuned into it also cookie...no mention at the start of the show about Haleigh ::MonkeyEek::

how did we know/think that they were going to be featured on his show tonight anyhow?
did the deal fall through for some reason??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 17, 2009, 10:15:16 PM
Vigil Held for Haleigh Cummings

http://www.wesh.com/news/19487742/detail.html

There is also a video, in the middle of the article.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 10:15:38 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????

Im tuned into it also cookie...no mention at the start of the show about Haleigh ::MonkeyEek::

how did we know/think that they were going to be featured on his show tonight anyhow?
did the deal fall through for some reason??
Cookie I think someone posted it in here earlier...not quite sure though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 10:18:04 PM
Vigil Held for Haleigh Cummings

http://www.wesh.com/news/19487742/detail.html

There is also a video, in the middle of the article.

the Anthony's were there?  : ::MonkeyNoNo::
grama...did you put this over on the Caylee thread?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 10:19:09 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????

Im tuned into it also cookie...no mention at the start of the show about Haleigh ::MonkeyEek::

how did we know/think that they were going to be featured on his show tonight anyhow?
did the deal fall through for some reason??
Cookie I think someone posted it in here earlier...not quite sure though.
I beleive that it came from WS, that they would be appearing!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 10:21:59 PM
thanks HH...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bud's Girl on May 17, 2009, 10:22:49 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????

Im tuned into it also cookie...no mention at the start of the show about Haleigh ::MonkeyEek::

how did we know/think that they were going to be featured on his show tonight anyhow?
did the deal fall through for some reason??
Cookie I think someone posted it in here earlier...not quite sure though.
I beleive that it came from WS, that they would be appearing!


Hi HH ... I'm reading back, and notice I'm not seeing Brandi page after page, none of her Haleigh art pics.... is all well with her, do you know?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 10:26:09 PM
I posted about Brandi missing over in the musing thread...I also emailed her...just this evening though so I have not heard...I hope that I have the right email address..'do any of the mods know where she is? She is missed!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 10:26:29 PM
Geraldo on now...no mention of Haleigh, Crystal etc....being on his show tonight...
I dvr'd Desperate Housewives to watch Geraldo and now they aren't going to be on????

Im tuned into it also cookie...no mention at the start of the show about Haleigh ::MonkeyEek::

how did we know/think that they were going to be featured on his show tonight anyhow?
did the deal fall through for some reason??
Cookie I think someone posted it in here earlier...not quite sure though.
I beleive that it came from WS, that they would be appearing!


Hi HH ... I'm reading back, and notice I'm not seeing Brandi page after page, none of her Haleigh art pics.... is all well with her, do you know?


Hey Budsgirl,   I wish I did, havent heard from her and I think someone asked about her last night and no one knew!!!   I hope she's alright!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bud's Girl on May 17, 2009, 10:31:02 PM

Hey Budsgirl,   I wish I did, havent heard from her and I think someone asked about her last night and no one knew!!!   I hope she's alright!
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ok, thanks, I hope she's ok too!  Just sort of unusual not to see her on this thread.   I see Cookie says she emailed her, so maybe she'll answer soon.  I had her email addy at one time, but can't find it now. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bud's Girl on May 17, 2009, 10:32:02 PM
wow I did a great job of messing up that snipped quote box.    ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 10:34:35 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 17, 2009, 10:38:16 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 17, 2009, 10:44:29 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...
Well you know its happened before something else bumpped it like that time art was to be on..no biggy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 17, 2009, 11:06:09 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bud's Girl on May 17, 2009, 11:19:14 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

Heart, do you mean a suit having to do with Geraldo getting in Ronald's face that time ...  or have I missed something?
BG


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 17, 2009, 11:20:10 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

That is possible Heart, maybe a suit has been threatened against KP also could be why she lawyered .

I hope Brandi is OK too, I haven't seen her here in a couple days. If anyone hears from her please let us know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 17, 2009, 11:26:59 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

Heart, do you mean a suit having to do with Geraldo getting in Ronald's face that time ...  or have I missed something?
BG

Yes Bud's Girl, that is what I am referring to.  It is not like Geraldo to go this long without any mention of this case, jmho.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 17, 2009, 11:28:34 PM
Patricia...I am thinking if I remember right that Cobra and his wife both used Kim as their attorney...for their divorce....some kind monkey will remember all the facts...But yes, they remained friends after she handled their divorce..If I recall it correctly, Kim bought their home (?)...something like that...

Oh ok. um. I'm not familiar with divorces and stuff but I guess it is possible that one lawyer could be used by both parties? Somehow? Like if they were in agreeance on everything to do with the divorce? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to this divorce stuff so please bare with me. The only divorces I know about are either on TV or people I know and none of them were so civil but I guess it could happen?

No they  cannot they represent both parties.. That would constitute a Conflict of interest..  If they allowed that, one of the parties in the divorce case would end up getting the shaft..   A couple might contact an attorney for advise on filing for a divorce in general.. but not as a couple filing for divorce.  Divorce issues become a War real fast, especially with the issues of custody and division of property.

Thank you Mlee. That stuff always confuses me.
I'm listening to the radio show. Here is the link in case anyone missed it like me.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

Ihanks I am listening to it now... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 17, 2009, 11:31:49 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

Heart, do you mean a suit having to do with Geraldo getting in Ronald's face that time ...  or have I missed something?
BG
When HH (I believe that was who the Monkey was) posted yesterday the info that they had read on WS about Misty slapping Ron Jr. and that it would be talked about on Geraldo,  I had my doubts that this would occur.  Geraldo has not touched this case for some time now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 17, 2009, 11:35:09 PM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

Heart, do you mean a suit having to do with Geraldo getting in Ronald's face that time ...  or have I missed something?
BG
When HH (I believe that was who the Monkey was) posted yesterday the info that they had read on WS about Misty slapping Ron Jr. and that it would be talked about on Geraldo,  I had my doubts that this would occur.  Geraldo has not touched this case for some time now.
Excuse me but you have this wrong......it wasnt me, I am not a member at WS, and I did not post anything from there!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 12:41:55 AM
Vigil Held for Haleigh Cummings

http://www.wesh.com/news/19487742/detail.html

There is also a video, in the middle of the article.

Grama, I can't find the video.  :(  Can you help?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 12:48:37 AM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

Heart, do you mean a suit having to do with Geraldo getting in Ronald's face that time ...  or have I missed something?
BG
When HH (I believe that was who the Monkey was) posted yesterday the info that they had read on WS about Misty slapping Ron Jr. and that it would be talked about on Geraldo,  I had my doubts that this would occur.  Geraldo has not touched this case for some time now.
Excuse me but you have this wrong......it wasnt me, I am not a member at WS, and I did not post anything from there!
Oh I am so sorry HH, you are correct, I had the posters and the topics of discussion mixed up.
However does the following look familiar:

pocahanas   #33757


Worthington Springs, FL

I just heard that someone witnessed Misty slapping Jr, up side the head in a health department wednesday, and LE and DCF both has gotten a statement about it....

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1615


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ISpy on May 18, 2009, 12:58:48 AM
Good evening, everyone!  I usually post in the Caylee Anthony thread, but I wanted to share a fascinating website I found about this case.  It's a website called Eyes For Lies and it deals with detecting deception.  While the web owner has a natural ability to discern the lie from the truth (IMO, a God-given ability per I Corinthians 12:1-11), she sort of teaches you what to look for. She has several reviews on Haleigh's case.  She basically walks you through video of Ronald and Misty talking when doing interviews and points out her perceptions.

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

Mods- I hope this was alright to post....my apologies if not.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 12:58:58 AM
Good Morning. A reminder that Crystal and Marie will be on Geraldo's show Sunday.  ::MonkeyWink::
here we go...found it

oh...so it is Rosie's fault huh??? ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyHaHa:: ::MonkeyHaHa::

Jessie Ventura is on Geraldo now...he is pretty entertaining...he makes a lot of sense to me...he isn't for everybody, but he is interesting...

Hi cookie and all Monkeys and Guest!

Just now am able to log on to my computer.  Started having computer problems last night.

IMHO,  I think that for some reason, Geraldo is not touching this story any longer?  I wonder if there is a suit that has been threatened or even in the works.

Heart, do you mean a suit having to do with Geraldo getting in Ronald's face that time ...  or have I missed something?
BG
When HH (I believe that was who the Monkey was) posted yesterday the info that they had read on WS about Misty slapping Ron Jr. and that it would be talked about on Geraldo,  I had my doubts that this would occur.  Geraldo has not touched this case for some time now.
Excuse me but you have this wrong......it wasnt me, I am not a member at WS, and I did not post anything from there!
Oh I am so sorry HH, you are correct, I had the posters and the topics of discussion mixed up.
However does the following look familiar:

pocahanas   #33757


Worthington Springs, FL

I just heard that someone witnessed Misty slapping Jr, up side the head in a health department wednesday, and LE and DCF both has gotten a statement about it....

http://www.topix.com/city/satsuma-fl/2009/02/missing-5-year-old-florida-girl-likely-was-abducted-police-say/p1615
Is this Topix or SM..........I said I didnt post it here and so what is the sense in this post.......


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ISpy on May 18, 2009, 01:01:45 AM
Disclaimer: Perhaps I should have added that the web owner does not identify herself, nor the site as having a Christian affiliation.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:04:32 AM
Good evening, everyone!  I usually post in the Caylee Anthony thread, but I wanted to share a fascinating website I found about this case.  It's a website called Eyes For Lies and it deals with detecting deception.  While the web owner has a natural ability to discern the lie from the truth (IMO, a God-given ability per I Corinthians 12:1-11), she sort of teaches you what to look for. She has several reviews on Haleigh's case.  She basically walks you through video of Ronald and Misty talking when doing interviews and points out her perceptions.

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/

Mods- I hope this was alright to post....my apologies if not.


Thank You Ispy......very informative!!!!   your fine.....how are you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ISpy on May 18, 2009, 01:07:46 AM
Well, it's late and I need to go, but I did just want to give you all some food for thought. I spent a few hours looking over the Eyes For Lies site on this case and found her to be spot-on, regarding Ronald and Misty's behavior.  JMHO

Hope you all have a good night!  Look forward to finding the truth, for Haleigh's sake.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:10:52 AM
You know some people can be guilty and talk a line and look squekey clean, There's alot of people in the world like that and when something like this happens, it makes it hard to know who is telling the truth, who is lying and who is just stringing alone enough info to keep everyone listening...........In the Caylee case we knew that Casey was lying because she wasnt very good at it and liked to hear herself talk..................................Some people in these cases like to hear themselves talk also....................some have a true heart and only want whats best for Haleigh....its so hard to figure it all out sometimes.................To bad life isnt Moderated like it is on Scared Monkeys..........lol......hint hint!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 18, 2009, 01:10:56 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


I think this may be what your reffering to Heart


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 01:18:43 AM
I just saw this on WS. Again I have no idea, thought maybe someone heard about this. It happened on Thursday, and supposedly will be talked about on HLN with Mike G. I don't really watch the news much, for my sanity, wondered if this had already been on, or if it will be on Monday.  (My source just told me that that LE and DCF received a statement from a person that witnessed Misty slapping JR in the head in the waiting room of a health center yesterday. Also, the Health Care Center employees verified the incident.) So, again, I don't know if this is true, but I sure hope it is not.  ::MonkeyEek::


I think this may be what your reffering to Heart

Thanks JNGA, Yes that is it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 01:20:46 AM
#  Art Harris Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am

Neilson–Chuck is pals with someone higher than Merchant, and ironically the smart cop who investigated him waaaaaay back when is none other than Lt. Johnny Greenwood, current spokesman for the PCSD who doubles as its accreditation officer…The confidential reports he filed in the case I’ve read … are enough to curdle any fortfied soul.
As for Jerome, he was overheard burning up his cell phone trying to hunt down dealers who knew Misty, really trying to do the right thing…but apparently nothing turned up before he just got too high profile and got popped.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/exclusive-drug-dealer-haleigh-cummings-help/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ISpy on May 18, 2009, 01:21:56 AM
HigherHopes-hey there!  Doing well here.  Good to see you posting over here.  I check over here occasionally.  Truthfully, I can barely stomach the story Ronald & Misty are pushing.  As if the Caylee Anthony case wasn't enough!  I don't know how Red, Dugga, the mods, and all the posters can do this all these years.  I think they deserve a medal for slogging through all this stuff.  All of our monkeys who sift and sort through morgue photos and cold case files in their spare time, trying to find matches (like Nut does) have my respect.  When I think about how many people meet here to pour over collected statements and videos, mining for the truth hidden in the lies...I am simply amazed.  Every time lies get dissected, I want to cheer and do a little victory dance (ala pro football players in the end zone before they outlawed it).  Who would have ever thought what hundreds of pairs: of typing hands could find; eyes could spot; and ears could hear?!  Inquiring minds do want to know.  I am so glad there is a Scared monkeys!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:32:54 AM
HigherHopes-hey there!  Doing well here.  Good to see you posting over here.  I check over here occasionally.  Truthfully, I can barely stomach the story Ronald & Misty are pushing.  As if the Caylee Anthony case wasn't enough!  I don't know how Red, Dugga, the mods, and all the posters can do this all these years.  I think they deserve a medal for slogging through all this stuff.  All of our monkeys who sift and sort through morgue photos and cold case files in their spare time, trying to find matches (like Nut does) have my respect.  When I think about how many people meet here to pour over collected statements and videos, mining for the truth hidden in the lies...I am simply amazed.  Every time lies get dissected, I want to cheer and do a little victory dance (ala pro football players in the end zone before they outlawed it).  Who would have ever thought what hundreds of pairs: of typing hands could find; eyes could spot; and ears could hear?!  Inquiring minds do want to know.  I am so glad there is a Scared monkeys!
Yes, as am I, it makes alot of people feel good just to help in what little way we can.........then sometimes people will show up or post a certain post just to cause a problem and that is so sad, if they would take the effort that they are putting into looking at other posters and look for things in this case, goodness just think how much more we might could find out!!!!!  I love this forum because it is  Moderated and keeps us in line.....your right The mods deserve a medal.....every single one of them.....its so hard to know what is right and what is wrong but they keep us on track and keep Scared Monkeys the best place to be...........I know, I have seen Klaas use that red button enough to know,   I Thank God for the people responcible for creating this Forum and for the Mods that keep it clean!!!!!!!      God Bless Haleigh!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ISpy on May 18, 2009, 01:34:19 AM
It's really funny because the Eyes For Lies website prompted me to do my own experiment tonight.  She was talking about on the Nancy Grace interview Ronald did with his mom, how you could almost see him trying not to smirk.  It prompted me to think about times when I feel all smug and made me really pay attention to how my facial muscles change.  Then I watched the video and keeping that in mind, I could clearly "see" it too.  Fascinating, just fascinating.  I could also read Misty a lot better too.  Personally, I think Ronald and Misty are both emotionally flat when it comes to Haleigh.  There is something between them that I can't quite put my finger on when I see them together in interviews (like bad undercurrent).  They're both very hard and there's a significant lack of personal warmth between the two of them.  They're detached.  They sit side-by-side, yet rarely even touch each other (much less offer comforting gestures to one another).  They didn't even face each other when they exchanged their vows...it was pretty rote.  Something's REALLY wrong, IMO.  Particularly, if that's someone you're supposedly being intimate with?  Hhhhmmmm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ISpy on May 18, 2009, 01:38:38 AM
Well, I really have to run.  Need to get up early for work.  Nice talking with you all!  Goodnight/good morning higherhopes and 12 Guests!  Take good care!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:39:30 AM
Well, I really have to run.  Need to get up early for work.  Nice talking with you all!  Goodnight/good morning higherhopes and 12 Guests!  Take good care!
Goodnight,  you too and I think I am gonna go also......maybe tomorrow will be the day Haleigh comes home!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 07:22:50 AM
Morning all!

still no word back from Brandi...I am not sure if I have the right email address..she had put it on the forum one night for someone to contact her and I wrote it down just in case I got locked out of the cage or something like that,then I would have a contact person....

Does anyone else have a way to contact her?
I think that Klaas said that the last time she had posted was on May 13th.(?)...talked about it in musings...
maybe computer problems due to weather in her area?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bearlyhere on May 18, 2009, 07:23:09 AM
Thank You MuffyBee...

Yhe The mods are terriffic. I want to Thank You all for all your hard  work and time that you put into SM... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 :smt052 :oops: :salut:



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 07:34:20 AM
Thank You MuffyBee...

Yhe The mods are terriffic. I want to Thank You all for all your hard  work and time that you put into SM... ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

 :smt052 :oops: :salut:



ditto! ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 08:41:26 AM
Good morning all Monkeys and Guests!

#

naples, something to ponder…shutting up.
#163  LisaE Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 12:38 am

Hi,

I just listened to the audio download of Simon Barrett’s interview today with Art, Cobra, and TJ Hart. The replay link is below.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

Below is some info mentioned during Simon Barrett’s radio show that I thought was interesting.

1) Reporter TJ Hart advised that two credible sources have placed Ron, on Haleigh’s last day of school, in a neighboring town, Crescent City before he went to work. The sources advised that Ron had a heated exchange with a woodcutter and a couple of woodcutter’s co-horts. Ron was heard insisting that the woodcutter owed him money.

2) None of the reporters / Cobra have actual confirmed times of when Ron showed up for work and what time Ron left work. They just know that he did work that night and and he did eat a meal in the cafeteria during his break.
However…
Cobra confirmed that a store surveillance camera filmed Ron after his shift at a convenience store at 2:30 am.
Cobra stated that the convenience store is only a 5 minute drive from Ron’s trailer.
However, Ron reportedly did not arrive home until 3:00 am.
(This 3 am time is confimed in the police report and is as per Misty’s initial account she gave the police).
Then Ron and Misty did not make the 911 call until 3:27 am.

Conclusions:
– Ron’s has 25 mins of unaccounted time from 2:30-3:00 am.
– Ron and Misty have about 25 mins. of unexplained delay in calling 911. They both need to explain why they later changed their story to: Ron arrived home at 3:20 am.

2) Cobra advised that Johnny Sheffield, Crystal’s father, is a former marine and former deputy sherriff. Per Cobra, Johnny is the only family member on either side that is actively searching for Haleigh, be it on his own or with Cobra. Today, Johnny, despite sickness and a fever, went searching for Haleigh at a new site. Johnny is a straight shooter and helped raise Haleigh before Ron stole Haleigh from Crystal. Johnny just wants his little granddaughter back.

3) LE has not been able to find a witness who saw Misty outside of Ron’s trailer that night.

4) When a caller asked if Misty was on drugs / doing drugs that night, Cobra replied that Art and Cobra do know something about Misty’s activities that night, but LE has asked them not to release the info.

5) Art confirmed that Haleigh did have two breathing machines, one at Crystal’s and one at Ron’s. The breathing machine at Crystal’s is still there. LE was very focused on locating the breathing machine that was in Ron’s trailer. Art and Cobra do not know if LE ever successfully located that second breathing machine.

6) Cobra advised that he and LE haved been looking into every person with a motive (per Cobra - “there are lots of them!”) and single lead. Cobra found that in his investigation, other than Ron and Misty, all the other suspects have ultimately been ruled out for one reason or another.

7) Cobra advised that known sex offenders cannot be ruled out yet just because LE knows their whereabouts within 100 yards due to the ankle tracking bracelets they wear. There is a 15 min. time delay in the tracking system, so LE can miss movements. The tracking also does not function well if the ankle bracelets are near bodies of water. Moreover, Cobra’s own girlfriend was kidnapped by a man out on bond who had successfully removed his ankle bracelet.

8) Jerome, dealer and pimp, in front of Kim Picazio, spent two hours calling his drug netherworld contacts on his own cell phone, trying to get info about who Misty’s dealers were. None of his contacts knew.

9) LE is still focusing on filling in the holes and ironing out inconsistancies in Misty’s timeline

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bud's Girl on May 18, 2009, 08:41:33 AM
Morning all!

still no word back from Brandi...I am not sure if I have the right email address..she had put it on the forum one night for someone to contact her and I wrote it down just in case I got locked out of the cage or something like that,then I would have a contact person....

Does anyone else have a way to contact her?
I think that Klaas said that the last time she had posted was on May 13th.(?)...talked about it in musings...
maybe computer problems due to weather in her area?

Give me a couple minutes, Cookie... it was me she gave it to, I think I can find it.  BRB


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 08:57:09 AM
Morning all!

still no word back from Brandi...I am not sure if I have the right email address..she had put it on the forum one night for someone to contact her and I wrote it down just in case I got locked out of the cage or something like that,then I would have a contact person....

Does anyone else have a way to contact her?
I think that Klaas said that the last time she had posted was on May 13th.(?)...talked about it in musings...
maybe computer problems due to weather in her area?

Give me a couple minutes, Cookie... it was me she gave it to, I think I can find it.  BRB

thanks....I will see if it is the same one that I emailed to...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Bud's Girl on May 18, 2009, 09:01:37 AM
Morning all!

still no word back from Brandi...I am not sure if I have the right email address..she had put it on the forum one night for someone to contact her and I wrote it down just in case I got locked out of the cage or something like that,then I would have a contact person....

Does anyone else have a way to contact her?
I think that Klaas said that the last time she had posted was on May 13th.(?)...talked about it in musings...
maybe computer problems due to weather in her area?

Give me a couple minutes, Cookie... it was me she gave it to, I think I can find it.  BRB

thanks....I will see if it is the same one that I emailed to...

It was back on thread 11 .... She posted it there so it's ok:

   brandibb @ gmail.com 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 09:06:52 AM
BG...same one  that I used...and yes..that is where I got it from as well...
thank you very much...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 09:07:57 AM
#137 rainy Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

The lady on prime news show said that all the people in both clan sides have been interviewed by police at least ten times not just misty

#140  Art Harris Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 1:49 am

Rainy: Who on prime news? She must not be talking to the same sources I am.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/exclusive-drug-dealer-haleigh-cummings-help/#comments



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 09:10:37 AM
how are you this fine morning Heart?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 09:12:28 AM
snipped from Heart's post ( from art's site)

7) Cobra advised that known sex offenders cannot be ruled out yet just because LE knows their whereabouts within 100 yards due  to the ankle tracking bracelets they wear. There is a 15 min. time delay in the tracking system, so LE can miss movements. The tracking also does not function well if the ankle bracelets are near bodies of water. Moreover, Cobra’s own girlfriend was kidnapped by a man out on bond who had successfully removed his ankle bracelet.


Just because a sex offender was in his ankle tracking area, does not PROVE that SOMEONE may have paid him a VISIT.  The road goes two ways....to and fro.  Suppose one of these S/O is also involved in drug distribution, or availability.  He doesn't have to leave his area.....to make contact. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 09:26:19 AM

Caylee, Haleigh Families Lead Vigil

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19490260/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 09:27:36 AM
how are you this fine morning Heart?

Good morning cookie,  I am fine and blessed!  How are you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 09:38:41 AM
Good Morning, yes it was me that said they were going to be on Geraldo, Marie and Crystal, and yes that was on WS. Maybe Geraldo changed his mind?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 09:47:33 AM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 09:52:29 AM
Good Morning, yes it was me that said they were going to be on Geraldo, Marie and Crystal, and yes that was on WS. Maybe Geraldo changed his mind?

or someone changed his mind for him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 09:53:24 AM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

thanks grama...really sad for Crystal ....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 09:53:30 AM
I know LE has stated that Misty and Ron hold the 'key info' as to Haleigh's disappearance.

But, back to the S/O's.  Sure we have seen a list of the registered offenders in the surrounding area.  These are all OFFENDERS KNOWN TO LE.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

Good Morning Grama,  Monkeys and visitors.. See everyone is up early and working hard as usual..  Had your coffee yet?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 09:58:29 AM
I know LE has stated that Misty and Ron hold the 'key info' as to Haleigh's disappearance.

But, back to the S/O's.  Sure we have seen a list of the registered offenders in the surrounding area.  These are all OFFENDERS KNOWN TO LE.

IS THERE SOMEONE NEW....someone that may be a S/O that is NOT KNOWN TO LE???

There always has to be A FIRST OFFENSE..or maybe ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN CAUGHT PREVIOUSLY that is a NEW SEX OFFENDER IN THE AREA?????  Someone in the local neighborhood, someone that maybe Misty and/or Ron knew...an acquaintenance....a relative....that NO ONE would SUSPECT????

I am not implying or pointing fingers at anyone in particular here, but I am sure as we all know, there are offenders out there that have never been caught.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 10:05:31 AM
I know LE has stated that Misty and Ron hold the 'key info' as to Haleigh's disappearance.

But, back to the S/O's.  Sure we have seen a list of the registered offenders in the surrounding area.  These are all OFFENDERS KNOWN TO LE.

IS THERE SOMEONE NEW....someone that may be a S/O that is NOT KNOWN TO LE???

There always has to be A FIRST OFFENSE..or maybe ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN CAUGHT PREVIOUSLY that is a NEW SEX OFFENDER IN THE AREA?????  Someone in the local neighborhood, someone that maybe Misty and/or Ron knew...an acquaintenance....a relative....that NO ONE would SUSPECT????

I am not implying or pointing fingers at anyone in particular here, but I am sure as we all know, there are offenders out there that have never been caught.

yep...you are right...everyone and every option needs to be explored and checked imo.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 10:06:27 AM
Good Morning mlee and Monkey early risers....

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 10:42:46 AM
Good Morning, I went over to see if I could find out a reason why Marie and Crystal weren't on Geraldo's show last night, but I can't find anything. I don't believe this person was making that up, but if she was I'm sorry I brought it over here, I don't watch his show, for sanity reasons, but I know others do.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 10:57:01 AM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

OMG~That video just made me lose it while I am at work..........MOO, Crystal seems completely devastated and sincere, while Ron/Fibsty seem aloof, smug, arrogant and not really that upset..........and, then poor little Butterbean stuk in a tent in GGMA Sykes yard with those 2 unfit parents rips my heart out...


HH~If you are here, have you rec'd the care package I sent yet????

Thanks,

IM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 11:00:56 AM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

OMG~That video just made me lose it while I am at work..........MOO, Crystal seems completely devastated and sincere, while Ron/Fibsty seem aloof, smug, arrogant and not really that upset..........and, then poor little Butterbean stuk in a tent in GGMA Sykes yard with those 2 unfit parents rips my heart out...


HH~If you are here, have you rec'd the care package I sent yet????

Thanks,

IM
You mean to tell me that the three of them are living in a tent on Sykes property? Why in the world are they not living in her house? If the little boy JR, is living in a tent, how is that right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 11:07:36 AM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

OMG~That video just made me lose it while I am at work..........MOO, Crystal seems completely devastated and sincere, while Ron/Fibsty seem aloof, smug, arrogant and not really that upset..........and, then poor little Butterbean stuk in a tent in GGMA Sykes yard with those 2 unfit parents rips my heart out...


HH~If you are here, have you rec'd the care package I sent yet????

Thanks,

IM
You mean to tell me that the three of them are living in a tent on Sykes property? Why in the world are they not living in her house? If the little boy JR, is living in a tent, how is that right?

That is what I heard.......but, that has been a while ago as I've kinda been out of the loop, but yes originally when they left the tent in Satsuma they moved it GGMA Sykes back yard and that is why there was a porta potty showing at the wedding......I can only pray butterbean gets to stay inside the house, yet the entire family seems to be stuck on "behavoir issues", that I honestly would prefer he be removed from anyone on that side of the family as it hasn't only been GGMA, but also Ron and others who have mentioned how well "behaved" she is, while I learned from others she is a typical kindergartener ...........thank God, as she souldn't have to be constantly worried if she is on her best behavoir at such a young age OR she gets "spanked according to DCF guidlines"               whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                         


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 11:41:25 AM
Thank you Grama, I looked all over for it and couldn't find that video.  You're a peach!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 11:44:56 AM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 11:59:02 AM
Thanks IM  ::MonkeyCool::
Anytime ::MonkeyTongue:: Rosie!! Would love to find out if those are still the living arrangements, but they seemed to have disappeared from ANY media ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 12:04:30 PM
Good morning all Monkeys and Guests!

#

naples, something to ponder…shutting up.
#163  LisaE Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 12:38 am

Hi,

I just listened to the audio download of Simon Barrett’s interview today with Art, Cobra, and TJ Hart. The replay link is below.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

Below is some info mentioned during Simon Barrett’s radio show that I thought was interesting.

1) Reporter TJ Hart advised that two credible sources have placed Ron, on Haleigh’s last day of school, in a neighboring town, Crescent City before he went to work. The sources advised that Ron had a heated exchange with a woodcutter and a couple of woodcutter’s co-horts. Ron was heard insisting that the woodcutter owed him money.

2) None of the reporters / Cobra have actual confirmed times of when Ron showed up for work and what time Ron left work. They just know that he did work that night and and he did eat a meal in the cafeteria during his break.
However…
Cobra confirmed that a store surveillance camera filmed Ron after his shift at a convenience store at 2:30 am.
Cobra stated that the convenience store is only a 5 minute drive from Ron’s trailer.
However, Ron reportedly did not arrive home until 3:00 am.
(This 3 am time is confimed in the police report and is as per Misty’s initial account she gave the police).
Then Ron and Misty did not make the 911 call until 3:27 am.

Conclusions:
– Ron’s has 25 mins of unaccounted time from 2:30-3:00 am.
– Ron and Misty have about 25 mins. of unexplained delay in calling 911. They both need to explain why they later changed their story to: Ron arrived home at 3:20 am.

2) Cobra advised that Johnny Sheffield, Crystal’s father, is a former marine and former deputy sherriff. Per Cobra, Johnny is the only family member on either side that is actively searching for Haleigh, be it on his own or with Cobra. Today, Johnny, despite sickness and a fever, went searching for Haleigh at a new site. Johnny is a straight shooter and helped raise Haleigh before Ron stole Haleigh from Crystal. Johnny just wants his little granddaughter back.

3) LE has not been able to find a witness who saw Misty outside of Ron’s trailer that night.

4) When a caller asked if Misty was on drugs / doing drugs that night, Cobra replied that Art and Cobra do know something about Misty’s activities that night, but LE has asked them not to release the info.

5) Art confirmed that Haleigh did have two breathing machines, one at Crystal’s and one at Ron’s. The breathing machine at Crystal’s is still there. LE was very focused on locating the breathing machine that was in Ron’s trailer. Art and Cobra do not know if LE ever successfully located that second breathing machine.

6) Cobra advised that he and LE haved been looking into every person with a motive (per Cobra - “there are lots of them!”) and single lead. Cobra found that in his investigation, other than Ron and Misty, all the other suspects have ultimately been ruled out for one reason or another.

7) Cobra advised that known sex offenders cannot be ruled out yet just because LE knows their whereabouts within 100 yards due to the ankle tracking bracelets they wear. There is a 15 min. time delay in the tracking system, so LE can miss movements. The tracking also does not function well if the ankle bracelets are near bodies of water. Moreover, Cobra’s own girlfriend was kidnapped by a man out on bond who had successfully removed his ankle bracelet.

8) Jerome, dealer and pimp, in front of Kim Picazio, spent two hours calling his drug netherworld contacts on his own cell phone, trying to get info about who Misty’s dealers were. None of his contacts knew.

9) LE is still focusing on filling in the holes and ironing out inconsistancies in Misty’s timeline

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments

Heart are you sure you heard them say "wood cutter" in regards to whom Ron may have had an altercation with? I'm not sure but I thought he said tree trimmer. Same thing pretty much I guess.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 12:09:09 PM
Hey hey Island Monkey.
Good to see you and I hope to hear that your Grandbaby is doing well.

Question: Do you know if CS is getting follow up medical care or? I've read a few places that she isn't and that has me worried.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 12:39:34 PM
Good morning all Monkeys and Guests!

#

naples, something to ponder…shutting up.
#163  LisaE Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 12:38 am

Hi,

I just listened to the audio download of Simon Barrett’s interview today with Art, Cobra, and TJ Hart. The replay link is below.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

Below is some info mentioned during Simon Barrett’s radio show that I thought was interesting.

1) Reporter TJ Hart advised that two credible sources have placed Ron, on Haleigh’s last day of school, in a neighboring town, Crescent City before he went to work. The sources advised that Ron had a heated exchange with a woodcutter and a couple of woodcutter’s co-horts. Ron was heard insisting that the woodcutter owed him money.

2) None of the reporters / Cobra have actual confirmed times of when Ron showed up for work and what time Ron left work. They just know that he did work that night and and he did eat a meal in the cafeteria during his break.
However…
Cobra confirmed that a store surveillance camera filmed Ron after his shift at a convenience store at 2:30 am.
Cobra stated that the convenience store is only a 5 minute drive from Ron’s trailer.
However, Ron reportedly did not arrive home until 3:00 am.
(This 3 am time is confimed in the police report and is as per Misty’s initial account she gave the police).
Then Ron and Misty did not make the 911 call until 3:27 am.

Conclusions:
– Ron’s has 25 mins of unaccounted time from 2:30-3:00 am.
– Ron and Misty have about 25 mins. of unexplained delay in calling 911. They both need to explain why they later changed their story to: Ron arrived home at 3:20 am.

2) Cobra advised that Johnny Sheffield, Crystal’s father, is a former marine and former deputy sherriff. Per Cobra, Johnny is the only family member on either side that is actively searching for Haleigh, be it on his own or with Cobra. Today, Johnny, despite sickness and a fever, went searching for Haleigh at a new site. Johnny is a straight shooter and helped raise Haleigh before Ron stole Haleigh from Crystal. Johnny just wants his little granddaughter back.

3) LE has not been able to find a witness who saw Misty outside of Ron’s trailer that night.

4) When a caller asked if Misty was on drugs / doing drugs that night, Cobra replied that Art and Cobra do know something about Misty’s activities that night, but LE has asked them not to release the info.

5) Art confirmed that Haleigh did have two breathing machines, one at Crystal’s and one at Ron’s. The breathing machine at Crystal’s is still there. LE was very focused on locating the breathing machine that was in Ron’s trailer. Art and Cobra do not know if LE ever successfully located that second breathing machine.

6) Cobra advised that he and LE haved been looking into every person with a motive (per Cobra - “there are lots of them!”) and single lead. Cobra found that in his investigation, other than Ron and Misty, all the other suspects have ultimately been ruled out for one reason or another.

7) Cobra advised that known sex offenders cannot be ruled out yet just because LE knows their whereabouts within 100 yards due to the ankle tracking bracelets they wear. There is a 15 min. time delay in the tracking system, so LE can miss movements. The tracking also does not function well if the ankle bracelets are near bodies of water. Moreover, Cobra’s own girlfriend was kidnapped by a man out on bond who had successfully removed his ankle bracelet.

8) Jerome, dealer and pimp, in front of Kim Picazio, spent two hours calling his drug netherworld contacts on his own cell phone, trying to get info about who Misty’s dealers were. None of his contacts knew.

9) LE is still focusing on filling in the holes and ironing out inconsistancies in Misty’s timeline

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments

Heart are you sure you heard them say "wood cutter" in regards to whom Ron may have had an altercation with? I'm not sure but I thought he said tree trimmer. Same thing pretty much I guess.

Patricia, those are not my words.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 12:50:37 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and Guest.

Hi Im and HH, haven't talked with you in forever.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 12:52:58 PM
HH...Have you been to Satsuma recently?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 12:53:38 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and Guest.

Hi Im and HH, haven't talked with you in forever.
Hello  Darla, how ya been..........IM  yes I got it........making plans now to get it to Crystal!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 12:54:17 PM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

OMG~That video just made me lose it while I am at work..........MOO, Crystal seems completely devastated and sincere, while Ron/Fibsty seem aloof, smug, arrogant and not really that upset..........and, then poor little Butterbean stuk in a tent in GGMA Sykes yard with those 2 unfit parents rips my heart out...


HH~If you are here, have you rec'd the care package I sent yet????

Thanks,

IM
You mean to tell me that the three of them are living in a tent on Sykes property? Why in the world are they not living in her house? If the little boy JR, is living in a tent, how is that right?

DCF guidelines for child where they can live....Is a tent ok .. I really dont think so..JMO
 ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 12:55:34 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and Guest.

Hi Im and HH, haven't talked with you in forever.
Hello  Darla, how ya been..........IM  yes I got it........making plans now to get it to Crystal!

I'm good HH. I see there is nothing new on Haleigh. She needs to be found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
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IM
You mean to tell me that the three of them are living in a tent on Sykes property? Why in the world are they not living in her house? If the little boy JR, is living in a tent, how is that right?

DCF guidelines for child where they can live....Is a tent ok .. I really dont think so..JMO
 ::MonkeyTongue::


I hope to God they don't have that child living in a tent. Why not live in the house with Grandma Sykes? That is plain stupidity.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
[
IM
You mean to tell me that the three of them are living in a tent on Sykes property? Why in the world are they not living in her house? If the little boy JR, is living in a tent, how is that right?

DCF guidelines for child where they can live....Is a tent ok .. I really dont think so..JMO
 ::MonkeyTongue::


I hope to God they don't have that child living in a tent. Why not live in the house with Grandma Sykes? That is plain stupidity.
yep....I know what you mean,     I think Ronald and musty need to set there tent up in those woods that Mrs Neves took Cobra   too and liveright there...........of Course Jr. needs to be with someone else away from all their crazy stuff!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
As of May 8, 2009

DCF still investigating Cummings case

By Kristin Chambers
Published: Friday, May 8, 2009 12:34 AM EDT
The state Department of Children and Families continues to review abuse allegations made by the mother of Haleigh Cummings regarding the status of Haleigh's younger brother, Ronald Cummings Jr., who lives with his father.

"The investigation is still going on," John Harrell, spokesman for the DCF in Jacksonville, said. "We have been given information and we are continuing to investigate."

Ronald Junior lives at his great-grandmother's house in Welaka with his father, Ronald Cummings, and stepmother, Misty Croslin, after his 5-year-old sister vanished from their South Putnam home in February.

Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh's mother, retained Fort Lauderdale attorney Kim Picazio to help with the news media shortly after her daughter's disappearance, and Picazio has continued to represent her in the DCF investigation.

*
"It's not about Crystal, it's about the state of Florida looking into if Ronald is a fit parent and whether or not Junior is in a safe home," Picazio said. "And yes, they are still evaluating that."

Harrell said that though the investigation is continuing, the DCF would not remove any child from a home unless they were in danger.

"The department's first priority is child safety," Harrell said. "In any situation we would not allow a child to remain in a home if they were in danger, but that has to be determined."

Attorneys for Ronald Cummings, Greg Kimball and T. Jerry Snider, deny abuse occurred and say the child has a stable family environment at the grandmother's home.

"Right now, Ronald and Misty are living with Ronald's grandmother, who is providing a stable home, and the DCF is fine with that," Snider said.

Cummings continues to look for work after losing his job as a crane operator, Kimball said, adding he and his law partner anticipate a child-custody dispute would be initiated by Sheffeld if the state doesn't act.

"It's still very possible that they will go to the courts now," Snider said.

Picazio, Kimball and Snider all said they were working "pro bono" or without charge.

Picazio declined to say whether a custody case would be filed in court.

Cummings's attorneys said that if the case did go to court, DCF information would be considered as evidence, but both sides would have to provide witnesses.

"The threshold is not only the best interest of the child, but when you bring that petition you have to allege that there has been a substantial change in circumstances," Snider said.

Meanwhile, authorities say the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance is continuing.

Haleigh was reported missing from her Satsuma home at 3 a.m. on Feb. 10. Despite a massive search and criminal investigation, no trace of the blond-haired kindergartener has been found.

Capt. Dick Schauland, spokesman for the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, said Thursday detectives are still working the case.

"There have been more than 4,000 tips reported, and they are still following up on tips," Schauland said. "It's still going."

kchambers@palatkadailynews.com

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/05/08/news/news02.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
Meanwhile, the tent and camper set up in front of a home on Tyler Street where the Cummings family has maintained a vigil for Haleigh will be removed by order of the county, Teresa Neves, Haleigh's paternal grandmother, said.

"You can have a 14-day permit, but campers and tents are only allowed in campgrounds," she said Friday.

"Basically they said we are breaking the law because we are not in a campground."

She said she was hoping there would be enough parking at her mother's house in Welaka so the family could move the tent there.

"I think we will have the vigil Sunday at 5:30 p.m. then move Sunday night," she said.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:RysfRE1SGzEJ:boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D292706+ronald+cummings+lives+tent+welaka+fl&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 01:41:23 PM
I listened to the BNN radio show again @ http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

I did hear TJ Hart saying it was at a "tree cutting operation" and that this altercation that they are apparently reporting about happened in Crescent City.
(Correct me if I am wrong on that location but that was what I was understanding from it.)
I would sure like to get some follow up confirmation on this. If this DID happen then it could possibly have some bearing on the case and maybe shed mroe light into what happened to little Haleigh.
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 01:43:54 PM
Hey hey Island Monkey.
Good to see you and I hope to hear that your Grandbaby is doing well.

Question: Do you know if CS is getting follow up medical care or? I've read a few places that she isn't and that has me worried.

Hi Patricia.....great to see you posting!! Grandbaby is GRAND and I can't wait for him to come home ::MonkeyAngel::

I honestly don't know about Crystal getting follow up care except from HH, and IIRC she wasn't.........she looks like she has lost so much weight and you can see the deep dark circles under her eyes, I pray she will get help soon and that her baby girl will find her way home. Unfortunately due to the extreme length of time she has been gone, I'm not as hopeful as I'd like to be.......that being said, I certainly want Butterbean back with her ASAP, and I sent her a little something for herself. I now understand that if you don't take some care of yourself, you can't really help anyone else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 01:45:51 PM
I listened to the BNN radio show again @ http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

I did hear TJ Hart saying it was at a "tree cutting operation" and that this altercation that they are apparently reporting about happened in Crescent City.
(Correct me if I am wrong on that location but that was what I was understanding from it.)
I would sure like to get some follow up confirmation on this. If this DID happen then it could possibly have some bearing on the case and maybe shed more light into what happened to little Haleigh.
 

I forgot to add also that my understanding of the story is that either Ron owed this person money or that the person owed Ron money.
Also,
Might this possibly be the prior place of employment that was mentioned a few days ago?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:46:45 PM
Darla, yea I read those articles earlier today that has just been posted and I doubt anybody can make someone move a tent out of their own yard.........The tents that were up for the families right after Haleigh came up missing were made to be moved but that says nothing for the one in Granny Sykes back yard!   Thats probably more or less right where Rona and Misty are IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 01:47:50 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and Guest.

Hi Im and HH, haven't talked with you in forever.
   ::MonkeyDance:: Hi Darla.......good to see you again, I have been swamped lately with everything and miss catching up with you. Did you see that video I was referring to with Crystal, so sad. What's your take on everything so far????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 01:49:20 PM
Good afternoon Monkeys and Guest.

Hi Im and HH, haven't talked with you in forever.
Hello  Darla, how ya been..........IM  yes I got it........making plans now to get it to Crystal!

Great......I never know with the mail service here ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 18, 2009, 01:49:59 PM
Hey hey Island Monkey.
Good to see you and I hope to hear that your Grandbaby is doing well.

Question: Do you know if CS is getting follow up medical care or? I've read a few places that she isn't and that has me worried.

Hi Patricia.....great to see you posting!! Grandbaby is GRAND and I can't wait for him to come home ::MonkeyAngel::

I honestly don't know about Crystal getting follow up care except from HH, and IIRC she wasn't.........she looks like she has lost so much weight and you can see the deep dark circles under her eyes, I pray she will get help soon and that her baby girl will find her way home. Unfortunately due to the extreme length of time she has been gone, I'm not as hopeful as I'd like to be.......that being said, I certainly want Butterbean back with her ASAP, and I sent her a little something for herself. I now understand that if you don't take some care of yourself, you can't really help anyone else.
Thats true, and I got your "little something" for Crystal and I am making plans now to put it in her hands.....You are great and the postcards are beautiful!!!!!!!    May God Bless you, and Im sure Crystal will let you know that also!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 01:50:41 PM
I agree IM... things don't look good at this point. My understanding of the police reports and by Ron and Misty's statements on news that Ron said he didn't get off work til 3 am. Misty said she didn't wake up and find Haleigh missing til 3 am. So if he was 5 minutes from home at 2:30 Am.,  They had an hour to set up the block in the door and whatever else they covered up. Nothing adds up in this case. And it all leads right back to Misty and Ron's door.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 01:51:39 PM
Hey hey Island Monkey.
Good to see you and I hope to hear that your Grandbaby is doing well.

Question: Do you know if CS is getting follow up medical care or? I've read a few places that she isn't and that has me worried.

Hi Patricia.....great to see you posting!! Grandbaby is GRAND and I can't wait for him to come home ::MonkeyAngel::

I honestly don't know about Crystal getting follow up care except from HH, and IIRC she wasn't.........she looks like she has lost so much weight and you can see the deep dark circles under her eyes, I pray she will get help soon and that her baby girl will find her way home. Unfortunately due to the extreme length of time she has been gone, I'm not as hopeful as I'd like to be.......that being said, I certainly want Butterbean back with her ASAP, and I sent her a little something for herself. I now understand that if you don't take some care of yourself, you can't really help anyone else.
I'm concerned just like you and I know she is under extreme stress. Who wouldn't be? I do hope that she maybe reading what you just typed and that she too would understand how important your last sentence is.

Glad to hear about your GrandSon. I bet he is just a cutie!

((((((( HUGS )))))))
Congratulations!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 01:52:39 PM
DRUG DEALER SEARCH and HALEIGH

http://community2.myfoxorlando.com/_DRUG-DEALER-SEARCH-and-HALEIGH/BLOG/281189/72667.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 01:53:31 PM
I listened to the BNN radio show again @ http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

I did hear TJ Hart saying it was at a "tree cutting operation" and that this altercation that they are apparently reporting about happened in Crescent City.
(Correct me if I am wrong on that location but that was what I was understanding from it.)
I would sure like to get some follow up confirmation on this. If this DID happen then it could possibly have some bearing on the case and maybe shed mroe light into what happened to little Haleigh.
 

Sorry~but I missed this, what altercation are they talking about ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 01:56:33 PM
Hey hey Island Monkey.
Good to see you and I hope to hear that your Grandbaby is doing well.

Question: Do you know if CS is getting follow up medical care or? I've read a few places that she isn't and that has me worried.

Hi Patricia.....great to see you posting!! Grandbaby is GRAND and I can't wait for him to come home ::MonkeyAngel::

I honestly don't know about Crystal getting follow up care except from HH, and IIRC she wasn't.........she looks like she has lost so much weight and you can see the deep dark circles under her eyes, I pray she will get help soon and that her baby girl will find her way home. Unfortunately due to the extreme length of time she has been gone, I'm not as hopeful as I'd like to be.......that being said, I certainly want Butterbean back with her ASAP, and I sent her a little something for herself. I now understand that if you don't take some care of yourself, you can't really help anyone else.
Thats true, and I got your "little something" for Crystal and I am making plans now to put it in her hands.....You are great and the postcards are beautiful!!!!!!!    May God Bless you, and Im sure Crystal will let you know that also!!!

Thank you for taking the little something down there for me...I am so grateful that you are there for her and snooping around for us. I'm thrilled you like the postcards, but they are not even on par with your son's body of work!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 01:59:18 PM
I agree IM... things don't look good at this point. My understanding of the police reports and by Ron and Misty's statements on news that Ron said he didn't get off work til 3 am. Misty said she didn't wake up and find Haleigh missing til 3 am. So if he was 5 minutes from home at 2:30 Am.,  They had an hour to set up the block in the door and whatever else they covered up. Nothing adds up in this case. And it all leads right back to Misty and Ron's door.

Amen Darla, always has and always will IMO.......way too much time unaccounted for especially considering I have never belived GGMA Sykes about even being there that night due to her waiting 10 days IIRC to mention it and then it was only when the rumor of Misty not being home came up.......very suspicious to me.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:00:30 PM
I listened to the BNN radio show again @ http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

I did hear TJ Hart saying it was at a "tree cutting operation" and that this altercation that they are apparently reporting about happened in Crescent City.
(Correct me if I am wrong on that location but that was what I was understanding from it.)
I would sure like to get some follow up confirmation on this. If this DID happen then it could possibly have some bearing on the case and maybe shed mroe light into what happened to little Haleigh.
 

Sorry~but I missed this, what altercation are they talking about ?
I could be wrong, with that said, my understanding is that the day before Haleigh went missing, Ron, while on his way to work possibly??? stopped over at this ree cutting operation and had an altercation with someone there over money owed. Apparently there are more than one person at this tree cutting operation who was there and possibly involved???
If I got that wrong someone please correct me.
That is what I got from it myself but again...I could be wrong.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 02:01:20 PM
Hey hey Island Monkey.
Good to see you and I hope to hear that your Grandbaby is doing well.

Question: Do you know if CS is getting follow up medical care or? I've read a few places that she isn't and that has me worried.

Hi Patricia.....great to see you posting!! Grandbaby is GRAND and I can't wait for him to come home ::MonkeyAngel::

I honestly don't know about Crystal getting follow up care except from HH, and IIRC she wasn't.........she looks like she has lost so much weight and you can see the deep dark circles under her eyes, I pray she will get help soon and that her baby girl will find her way home. Unfortunately due to the extreme length of time she has been gone, I'm not as hopeful as I'd like to be.......that being said, I certainly want Butterbean back with her ASAP, and I sent her a little something for herself. I now understand that if you don't take some care of yourself, you can't really help anyone else.
I'm concerned just like you and I know she is under extreme stress. Who wouldn't be? I do hope that she maybe reading what you just typed and that she too would understand how important your last sentence is.

Glad to hear about your GrandSon. I bet he is just a cutie!

((((((( HUGS )))))))
Congratulations!

Thanks Patricia, he is a doll!! Looks like robo-posting today, it's just a down time at work and I'm taking advantage of it  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 02:02:29 PM
Woman Accused of Trying to Sneak Pot into Putnam Jail

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=138123&provider=top


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 02:04:13 PM
I listened to the BNN radio show again @ http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett/2009/05/17/Haleigh-Cummings

I did hear TJ Hart saying it was at a "tree cutting operation" and that this altercation that they are apparently reporting about happened in Crescent City.
(Correct me if I am wrong on that location but that was what I was understanding from it.)
I would sure like to get some follow up confirmation on this. If this DID happen then it could possibly have some bearing on the case and maybe shed mroe light into what happened to little Haleigh.
 

Sorry~but I missed this, what altercation are they talking about ?
I could be wrong, with that said, my understanding is that the day before Haleigh went missing, Ron, while on his way to work possibly??? stopped over at this ree cutting operation and had an altercation with someone there over money owed. Apparently there are more than one person at this tree cutting operation who was there and possibly involved???
If I got that wrong someone please correct me.
That is what I got from it myself but again...I could be wrong.

Thanks Patricia.........no surprised that this could have easily happened.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 02:13:57 PM
So if this altercation did happen right before Haleigh went missing, is someone maybe suggesting a person from there did this, or what is the opinion of the altercation? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 02:14:59 PM
Thanks Patricia, Haven't talked with you before but Welcome to SM.

Until they find some reason to pull Misty or Ron in on some charges this is just going to drag out. Or unless lil Haleigh is found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:15:35 PM
Kinda O/T
I don't know about Florida but here in Ca I've seen where a lot of these tree cutting places hire workers under the table. (Not sure why they would even think to do it considering the possibility of worker injury but they do it anyway.)
Never the less I am looking forward to hearing anything to confirm what happened there at the "tree cutting service".
I looked at the google map of Crescent City. It seems fairly small in size city wise. Can't be to many "tree cutting operations" there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:18:19 PM
Thanks Patricia, Haven't talked with you before but Welcome to SM.

Until they find some reason to pull Misty or Ron in on some charges this is just going to drag out. Or unless lil Haleigh is found.
Hi Darla and thank you for the warm welcome :)

I am interested to find out what I have been posting about today though. There is potential that it could somehow be linked to Haleigh's disappearance.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:22:19 PM
So if this altercation did happen right before Haleigh went missing, is someone maybe suggesting a person from there did this, or what is the opinion of the altercation? ::MonkeyConfused::
Not sure yet on that. I wonder where this "tree cutting service" is located exactly? And if there is any way for LE to look at camera's from businesses in that area to prove that RC was actually there or no?

Also what do these witnesses at the tree place have to say about the incident?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 02:27:02 PM
Thanks Patricia, Haven't talked with you before but Welcome to SM.

Until they find some reason to pull Misty or Ron in on some charges this is just going to drag out. Or unless lil Haleigh is found.
Hi Darla and thank you for the warm welcome :)

I am interested to find out what I have been posting about today though. There is potential that it could somehow be linked to Haleigh's disappearance.

Good Luck with finding confirmation on it Patricia. I don't think there has been concrete confirmation on anything in this case. And like the Caylee case people are being drug into this who have no link whatsoever. IMOO it all leads right back to Ron and Misty. Drug dealers usually go after the people who owe them and not innocent kids.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 18, 2009, 02:32:16 PM
May have already been posted. 

http://www.wesh.com/news/19487742/detail.html

Vigil Held For Missing Haleigh Cummings
Caylee Anthony's Grandparents Attend Evening Vigil

POSTED: 8:26 pm EDT May 17, 2009
UPDATED: 8:34 pm EDT May 17, 2009


LAKE MARY, Fla. -- It's been more than three months since 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings disappeared from her home in Putnam County.

Sunday night, friends and supporters of Haleigh's family were in Central Florida for a vigil in the missing child's honor.

VIDEO
http://www.wesh.com/video/19487471/index.html

Her family has been pleading for the public's help in finding the girl, but keeping constant media attention on Haleigh and many other missing children has proven difficult for families nationwide.

That's why there's a group called the National Coalition to Bring Awareness to Missing Children and Adults that has chosen to have an annual event at locations throughout the country to spotlight these cases.

The group picked Lake Mary because of it's proximity for committee members, as opposed to Satsuma, where Haleigh disappeared from.

Her biological mother, Crystal Sheffield, was scheduled to speak.

In March, Sheffield said on WESH 2 News, "Haleigh, if you're watching, I love you and I miss you."

Haleigh's father's side of the family did not attend, but slain toddler Caylee Anthony's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony, were there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:32:19 PM
Thanks Patricia, Haven't talked with you before but Welcome to SM.

Until they find some reason to pull Misty or Ron in on some charges this is just going to drag out. Or unless lil Haleigh is found.
Hi Darla and thank you for the warm welcome :)

I am interested to find out what I have been posting about today though. There is potential that it could somehow be linked to Haleigh's disappearance.

Good Luck with finding confirmation on it Patricia. I don't think there has been concrete confirmation on anything in this case. And like the Caylee case people are being drug into this who have no link whatsoever. IMOO it all leads right back to Ron and Misty. Drug dealers usually go after the people who owe them and not innocent kids.
True True. Though I still wonder what the guys at the tree place could offer LE regarding Ron's demeanor that day or if the only conversation was over owed money or???

What I really want to know because it is the only thing that matters in this case is, "Where is little Haleigh?"
 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:34:46 PM
Thank you for the link Klass.
Oh and Hi!
I am very happy to be a Monkey now and I want to say thank you to all the mods for all the time and effort they give to making this site the best site of all.

~MONKEY'S RULE~
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 18, 2009, 02:35:04 PM
So if this altercation did happen right before Haleigh went missing, is someone maybe suggesting a person from there did this, or what is the opinion of the altercation? ::MonkeyConfused::
Not sure yet on that. I wonder where this "tree cutting service" is located exactly? And if there is any way for LE to look at camera's from businesses in that area to prove that RC was actually there or no?

Also what do these witnesses at the tree place have to say about the incident?

IIRC Cobra did not want any details of this let out and stopped this topic .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 02:36:59 PM
Some pics from the vigil.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/051709vigilforhope/indexGallery.htm

Article and video from vigil.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/seminole_news/051709_Vigil

OMG~That video just made me lose it while I am at work..........MOO, Crystal seems completely devastated and sincere, while Ron/Fibsty seem aloof, smug, arrogant and not really that upset..........and, then poor little Butterbean stuk in a tent in GGMA Sykes yard with those 2 unfit parents rips my heart out...


HH~If you are here, have you rec'd the care package I sent yet????

Thanks,

IM
You mean to tell me that the three of them are living in a tent on Sykes property? Why in the world are they not living in her house? If the little boy JR, is living in a tent, how is that right?

Yes, As far as we know, he has been since Haleigh went missing.. Pool little guy


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:37:57 PM
So if this altercation did happen right before Haleigh went missing, is someone maybe suggesting a person from there did this, or what is the opinion of the altercation? ::MonkeyConfused::
Not sure yet on that. I wonder where this "tree cutting service" is located exactly? And if there is any way for LE to look at camera's from businesses in that area to prove that RC was actually there or no?

Also what do these witnesses at the tree place have to say about the incident?

IIRC Cobra did not want any details of this let out and stopped this topic .
That's right he did. Makes me wonder what he's got going there for sure.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: darla on May 18, 2009, 02:47:56 PM
Catch you Monkeys later...got to get something done around here. Praying today is the day Haleigh is found.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 18, 2009, 02:51:28 PM
Thank you for the link Klass.
Oh and Hi!
I am very happy to be a Monkey now and I want to say thank you to all the mods for all the time and effort they give to making this site the best site of all.

~MONKEY'S RULE~
 ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hi Patricia!  Welcome to SM!   ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
I agree IM... things don't look good at this point. My understanding of the police reports and by Ron and Misty's statements on news that Ron said he didn't get off work til 3 am. Misty said she didn't wake up and find Haleigh missing til 3 am. So if he was 5 minutes from home at 2:30 Am.,  They had an hour to set up the block in the door and whatever else they covered up. Nothing adds up in this case. And it all leads right back to Misty and Ron's door.

ITA Darla.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 02:54:52 PM
Catch you Monkeys later...got to get something done around here. Praying today is the day Haleigh is found.

See ya later Darla. It was nice to meet you and I might be on later too. I have a few things to catch up on chores wise.
Have a great day everyone and let today be the day little Haleigh is found!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 02:58:16 PM
Kinda O/T
I don't know about Florida but here in Ca I've seen where a lot of these tree cutting places hire workers under the table. (Not sure why they would even think to do it considering the possibility of worker injury but they do it anyway.)
Never the less I am looking forward to hearing anything to confirm what happened there at the "tree cutting service".
I looked at the google map of Crescent City. It seems fairly small in size city wise. Can't be to many "tree cutting operations" there.


Hi Patricia...

Some of those landscaping companies do tree services... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 03:00:57 PM
Kinda O/T
I don't know about Florida but here in Ca I've seen where a lot of these tree cutting places hire workers under the table. (Not sure why they would even think to do it considering the possibility of worker injury but they do it anyway.)
Never the less I am looking forward to hearing anything to confirm what happened there at the "tree cutting service".
I looked at the google map of Crescent City. It seems fairly small in size city wise. Can't be to many "tree cutting operations" there.


Hi Patricia...

Some of those landscaping companies do tree services... ::MonkeyTongue::

Thank you JG. Sorry for skipping out on ya when you just signed on but I have some things to do. TTYL I hope.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 03:07:36 PM
Kinda O/T
I don't know about Florida but here in Ca I've seen where a lot of these tree cutting places hire workers under the table. (Not sure why they would even think to do it considering the possibility of worker injury but they do it anyway.)
Never the less I am looking forward to hearing anything to confirm what happened there at the "tree cutting service".
I looked at the google map of Crescent City. It seems fairly small in size city wise. Can't be to many "tree cutting operations" there.
I'm in Ca also, and one day a card was left at my gate, about tree cutting and removal, etc., I called because we needed a small tree cut, and nobody spoke English  ::MonkeyEek:: Needless to say I hired someone else.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 03:10:04 PM
Thanks Klaas for posting that article, looks pretty bad that Haleigh's dad and stepmom didn't go to the vigil  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:11:05 PM
Kinda O/T
I don't know about Florida but here in Ca I've seen where a lot of these tree cutting places hire workers under the table. (Not sure why they would even think to do it considering the possibility of worker injury but they do it anyway.)
Never the less I am looking forward to hearing anything to confirm what happened there at the "tree cutting service".
I looked at the google map of Crescent City. It seems fairly small in size city wise. Can't be to many "tree cutting operations" there.


Hi Patricia...

Some of those landscaping companies do tree services... ::MonkeyTongue::

Hmmmm....I will bet someone a dozen donuts that the 'services' performed or rendered were not directly related to tree trimming or wood cutting at all.

I am gonna skip a beat here and say that 'possibly' this business that was visited was or is somehow connected with a drug deal...or dealer.  This is most likely as to why RC went there, either a pick up or a delivery.  Take your choice either drugs or monies for them.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:18:48 PM
Found this....

 Thomas Tree Service
 Not Rated  |  Write a Review
132 Pomona Landing Road # 2, Crescent City, FL 32112 zip code
PhonePhone|Map it

(386) xxx-xxxx(number x'd by me)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 03:21:17 PM
Found this....

 Thomas Tree Service
 Not Rated  |  Write a Review
132 Pomona Landing Road # 2, Crescent City, FL 32112 zip code
PhonePhone|Map it

(386) xxx-xxxx(number x'd by me)
I think you are right about that, I'm sure it was about drugs, I don't see Ron looking to hire someone to cut a tree down  ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:21:20 PM
Thanks Klaas for posting that article, looks pretty bad that Haleigh's dad and stepmom didn't go to the vigil  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I thought they were going to he on in Leesburg, where Trenton Duckett's dad was having something.....did they not go to either, and if so that looks really bad ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 03:23:23 PM
Thanks Klaas for posting that article, looks pretty bad that Haleigh's dad and stepmom didn't go to the vigil  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I thought they were going to he on in Leesburg, where Trenton Duckett's dad was having something.....did they not go to either, and if so that looks really bad ::MonkeyShocked::
Maybe they did go to the one in Leesburg, but if they did I sure didn't see anything on that.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:23:52 PM
Kinda O/T
I don't know about Florida but here in Ca I've seen where a lot of these tree cutting places hire workers under the table. (Not sure why they would even think to do it considering the possibility of worker injury but they do it anyway.)
Never the less I am looking forward to hearing anything to confirm what happened there at the "tree cutting service".
I looked at the google map of Crescent City. It seems fairly small in size city wise. Can't be to many "tree cutting operations" there.


Hi Patricia...

Some of those landscaping companies do tree services... ::MonkeyTongue::

Hmmmm....I will bet someone a dozen donuts that the 'services' performed or rendered were not directly related to tree trimming or wood cutting at all.

I am gonna skip a beat here and say that 'possibly' this business that was visited was or is somehow connected with a drug deal...or dealer.  This is most likely as to why RC went there, either a pick up or a delivery.  Take your choice either drugs or monies for them.




I for one would NOT take the other side of that bet..........sounds more than probable to me in that drug infested community!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 03:26:51 PM
Found this....

 Thomas Tree Service
 Not Rated  |  Write a Review
132 Pomona Landing Road # 2, Crescent City, FL 32112 zip code
PhonePhone|Map it

(386) xxx-xxxx(number x'd by me)

I have a list going to check criminal records...... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
Thanks Klaas for posting that article, looks pretty bad that Haleigh's dad and stepmom didn't go to the vigil  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I thought they were going to he on in Leesburg, where Trenton Duckett's dad was having something.....did they not go to either, and if so that looks really bad ::MonkeyShocked::
Maybe they did go to the one in Leesburg, but if they did I sure didn't see anything on that.

Although you are correct in the fact I, nor anyone I have heard from has mentioned RC or MC going...........hmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 03:28:50 PM
If anyone else here is a member of WS, go to page 43 in the parking lot forum, I'm afraid to say what is being said, but wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Rumor thread of Haleigh, a post by the woman who has a dog who helped search for Haleigh. Only a matter of time for an explosion in this case, if it is true what Ron said to this woman's husband.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:32:47 PM
Here are more names.  There are 4 in the same general area.  Crescent City and Ponoma Park.

Thomas Tree Service
1.Timberfalls Tree Service
2.Timberfalls Tree Service
Southern Tree & Stump Removal


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 18, 2009, 03:33:52 PM
Not sure how to put this right .
 Tree trimmers are most likely Mexican immigrants
 Lindsey customer were Mexican immigrants
 tree trimmers owe ron money
All just rambling . And klass If this seems too racist ,please just delete it ,I'll get the point


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 03:48:31 PM
If anyone else here is a member of WS, go to page 43 in the parking lot forum, I'm afraid to say what is being said, but wow  ::MonkeyEek:: Rumor thread of Haleigh, a post by the woman who has a dog who helped search for Haleigh. Only a matter of time for an explosion in this case, if it is true what Ron said to this woman's husband.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

Crap.........I'm not a member, can someone either post it or just give me the basic gist of the post...........plsssssss ::MonkeyAngel:: ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 18, 2009, 03:54:42 PM
Not fair rose ! ::MonkeyWaa:: give us sumtin pleeeeze !


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 04:02:39 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 18, 2009, 04:07:34 PM
Thanks rose . No matter who ends up arrested for this , ron's an a******


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 04:08:35 PM
I seriously doubt the Jr. is living/sleeping in a tent in the backyard at Granny Sikes...where does this stuff come from??? maybe some of the other grand kids were sleeping out? kids like to do that where I come from...not that I would allow it with all the crime going on...but kids love it...maybe there is a tent set up with an awning and the adults and children sit out there in the evenings? heck, I would hate to think the worst of someone just cause they have a tent set up in their back yard.....
don't you all think that if Jr's conditions were such that he was forced to live in a tent that children's social services would be all over this and that Kim and Crystal would have reported this to the authorities? where does Jr stay when he is with Crystal? what are the living conditions where she is staying..? anyone checked into this?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 04:13:12 PM
Thanks rose . No matter who ends up arrested for this , ron's an a******
After this woman posted this, and she has been a member of WS for awhile, and does good work with her dog, I wasn't sure if I should post this, but I figured it would be talked about sooner or later. I don't see this woman lying about this, but that is my opinion. People who have been reading her posts over there for quite sometime, know she is a decent person.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:14:45 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Honestly from what Cobra reported when he talked to Ron at MeMaws, it really doesn't surprise me, but it does sadden me that anyone searching for Haleigh should be subjected to such vile deragatory comments is more than disturbing..........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 04:17:26 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Honestly from what Cobra reported when he talked to Ron at MeMaws, it really doesn't surprise me, but it does sadden me that anyone searching for Haleigh should be subjected to such vile deragatory comments is more than disturbing..........
I know, actually it jumped out at me when I was reading over there, this woman really does seem like a genuine, kind woman.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:17:28 PM
I seriously doubt the Jr. is living/sleeping in a tent in the backyard at Granny Sikes...where does this stuff come from??? maybe some of the other grand kids were sleeping out? kids like to do that where I come from...not that I would allow it with all the crime going on...but kids love it...maybe there is a tent set up with an awning and the adults and children sit out there in the evenings? heck, I would hate to think the worst of someone just cause they have a tent set up in their back yard.....
don't you all think that if Jr's conditions were such that he was forced to live in a tent that children's social services would be all over this and that Kim and Crystal would have reported this to the authorities? where does Jr stay when he is with Crystal? what are the living conditions where she is staying..? anyone checked into this?

IIRC, when he was with Crystal in Satsuma they were in a hotel because he kept "bricking the door".

I' not sure Butterbean is in the tent, but Ron and Misty were............remember the tent and the porta potty in ggma Sykes back yard?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:22:34 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Honestly from what Cobra reported when he talked to Ron at MeMaws, it really doesn't surprise me, but it does sadden me that anyone searching for Haleigh should be subjected to such vile deragatory comments is more than disturbing..........
I know, actually it jumped out at me when I was reading over there, this woman really does seem like a genuine, kind woman.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

How sad..........I had heard something "similar" in the Caylee Anthony case (my co-worker's son lives about 10 blocks from where she used to live and he gave me some info that blew my mind...at the time anyway"........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 18, 2009, 04:24:57 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But I would like to know how her husband knows Ron was stoned if he rode by in his truck?  How can you determine someone is stoned when they drive by?    Did anyone perform a field sobriety test?   No one should call anyone (Ron allegedly calling her hubs)  degrogatory names if that is what happened, so I wouldn't excuse that behavior if true.  And neither should anyone accuse another( her hubs accusing Ron)  of being under the influence if they don't really know for sure if they are or if they are not.  JMHO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:27:29 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Honestly from what Cobra reported when he talked to Ron at MeMaws, it really doesn't surprise me, but it does sadden me that anyone searching for Haleigh should be subjected to such vile deragatory comments is more than disturbing..........

Guilty folks sure have a strange way of expressing themselves, don't they??????  Yes, it is very damning to the poster who helped search....many times for his daughter.

The gate will not stay open forever....it has been swinging, and hopefully soon it will close!!!!!
The gig is not gonna last forever, and soon the people that are troublemakers, will be taken care of.  LE do not keep their eyes closed for NOONE.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 18, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
Islandmonkey . Can't say for sure right now but IIRC that was cobras motel room


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:29:59 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But I would like to know how her husband knows Ron was stoned if he rode by in his truck?  How can you determine someone is stoned when they drive by?    Did anyone perform a field sobriety test?   No one should call anyone (Ron allegedly calling her hubs)  degrogatory names if that is what happened, so I wouldn't excuse that behavior if true.  And neither should anyone accuse another( her hubs accusing Ron)  of being under the influence if they don't really know for sure if they are or if they are not.  JMHO

I agree Muffy, but as the sister of a brother who unfortunately has been stoned the majority of his life, you can tell...........it's sad and pathetic but when you are used to the signs, they are obvious when they speak to you, yell at you or even just being in his presence, it's so clear and very sad!                                                                   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:30:31 PM
For those of you wondering if Haleigh's family was in attendance at the Trenton Duckett Vigil...here is the article.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/051709vigil_held_for_trenton_duckett


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::
::MonkeyNoNo::  ::MonkeyShocked:: Honestly from what Cobra reported when he talked to Ron at MeMaws, it really doesn't surprise me, but it does sadden me that anyone searching for Haleigh should be subjected to such vile deragatory comments is more than disturbing..........

Guilty folks sure have a strange way of expressing themselves, don't they??????  Yes, it is very damning to the poster who helped search....many times for his daughter.

The gate will not stay open forever....it has been swinging, and hopefully soon it will close!!!!!
The gig is not gonna last forever, and soon the people that are troublemakers, will be taken care of.  LE do not keep their eyes closed for NOONE.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll ask HH, she'll know. Now I'd guess she could stay with him out of town in her mom's house, but I'm not sure how often she leaves Satsuma.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 04:35:42 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But I would like to know how her husband knows Ron was stoned if he rode by in his truck?  How can you determine someone is stoned when they drive by?    Did anyone perform a field sobriety test?   No one should call anyone (Ron allegedly calling her hubs)  degrogatory names if that is what happened, so I wouldn't excuse that behavior if true.  And neither should anyone accuse another( her hubs accusing Ron)  of being under the influence if they don't really know for sure if they are or if they are not.  JMHO

I agree Muffy, but as the sister of a brother who unfortunately has been stoned the majority of his life, you can tell...........it's sad and pathetic but when you are used to the signs, they are obvious when they speak to you, yell at you or even just being in his presence, it's so clear and very sad!                                                                   

you could tell all of that by someone just driving by? I have been around plenty of people who have been stoned as well, but to see someone driving by in a car, that would be a tough one in my mind to really determine that someone was stoned.....just sayin...also, I have been around people who are stoned and others who are drunk and they act as sober/unstoned as a church mouse...just sayin...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 18, 2009, 04:40:14 PM
IM, I understand what you are saying.  I've been around my share of users too, unfortunately.  I'm also the sister of a brother that's in LE and he said if the guy was just driving by and yelled out something and lookedt o be  what someone might  called "stoned", maybe it is but maybe it isn't.  I am not taking one side or another here.  Ron might be a total azz. And the lady that used her dog in the search is probably a pretty nice lady, especially for helping.  But to me, the addition of the comment of Ron driving by stoned just strikes me as an add on.  As I said, it might be true.   How to prove it? But we have a lot of rumors and a lot of things  being said that aren't substantiated.  It just adds layers, imo.  I wish we had more reliable information from official sources, but we don't.   And it's frustrating.  JMHO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:41:04 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But I would like to know how her husband knows Ron was stoned if he rode by in his truck?  How can you determine someone is stoned when they drive by?    Did anyone perform a field sobriety test?   No one should call anyone (Ron allegedly calling her hubs)  degrogatory names if that is what happened, so I wouldn't excuse that behavior if true.  And neither should anyone accuse another( her hubs accusing Ron)  of being under the influence if they don't really know for sure if they are or if they are not.  JMHO

I agree Muffy, but as the sister of a brother who unfortunately has been stoned the majority of his life, you can tell...........it's sad and pathetic but when you are used to the signs, they are obvious when they speak to you, yell at you or even just being in his presence, it's so clear and very sad!                                                                   

you could tell all of that by someone just driving by? I have been around plenty of people who have been stoned as well, but to see someone driving by in a car, that would be a tough one in my mind to really determine that someone was stoned.....just sayin...also, I have been around people who are stoned and others who are drunk and they act as sober/unstoned as a church mouse...just sayin...

Sometimes the way they are driving can show impairment, but I was referring to the fact that Ron supposedly called out to the man, and yes when you live or are around a hard core stoner, it is obvious.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
I seriously doubt the Jr. is living/sleeping in a tent in the backyard at Granny Sikes...where does this stuff come from??? maybe some of the other grand kids were sleeping out? kids like to do that where I come from...not that I would allow it with all the crime going on...but kids love it...maybe there is a tent set up with an awning and the adults and children sit out there in the evenings? heck, I would hate to think the worst of someone just cause they have a tent set up in their back yard.....
don't you all think that if Jr's conditions were such that he was forced to live in a tent that children's social services would be all over this and that Kim and Crystal would have reported this to the authorities? where does Jr stay when he is with Crystal? what are the living conditions where she is staying..? anyone checked into this?

Well, I am sure we can find the address..  If you get time you can run up and check it out, or next time HH is in Satsuma she can check it out.. and then we will know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:45:15 PM
IM, I understand what you are saying.  I've been around my share of users too, unfortunately.  I'm also the sister of a brother that's in LE and he said if the guy was just driving by and yelled out something and lookedt o be  what someone might  called "stoned", maybe it is but maybe it isn't.  I am not taking one side or another here.  Ron might be a total azz. And the lady that used her dog in the search is probably a pretty nice lady, especially for helping.  But to me, the addition of the comment of Ron driving by stoned just strikes me as an add on.  As I said, it might be true.   How to prove it? But we have a lot of rumors and a lot of things  being said that aren't substantiated.  It just adds layers, imo.  I wish we had more reliable information from official sources, but we don't.   And it's frustrating.  JMHO

Well proving it is another point, but knowing it is different. To prove it I'd want a hair sample because test are too easy to fool, but that hair has to grow out a certain amount of time before it can be checked.  Unfortunately we have almost nothing that is from official source so it leaves so much room for speculation.........but, on the flip side after watching him on tv and seeing hs drug history arrest record, the idea that he was stoned isn't a huge leap to me anyway.                                     


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 04:57:13 PM
For those of you wondering if Haleigh's family was in attendance at the Trenton Duckett Vigil...here is the article.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/051709vigil_held_for_trenton_duckett
So, I guess Ron and Misty were not at the vigil along with Trenton's dad? Their names weren't mentioned.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 04:59:27 PM
For those of you wondering if Haleigh's family was in attendance at the Trenton Duckett Vigil...here is the article.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/volusia_news/051709vigil_held_for_trenton_duckett
So, I guess Ron and Misty were not at the vigil along with Trenton's dad? Their names weren't mentioned.

Guess not~I'm almost certain had they gone to ANY vigil, it would have been printed someone by now....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 05:04:18 PM
I can only come up with two reasons that maybe the poster added on that Ron was stoned. She and her husband live in the area, and maybe they have seen him stoned. But maybe by saying he was stoned is easier for her and her husband to accept what Ron shouted at him, maybe it would he harder to accept if he wasn't stoned and being just plain mean. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 05:09:50 PM
I can only come up with two reasons that maybe the poster added on that Ron was stoned. She and her husband live in the area, and maybe they have seen him stoned. But maybe by saying he was stoned is easier for her and her husband to accept what Ron shouted at him, maybe it would he harder to accept if he wasn't stoned and being just plain mean. ::MonkeyConfused::

2 great points NRCG!!!! Excellent thinking, well I'm outta here. I've decided to leave the laptop at work and enjoy living my life everyday after work on the beach and IF I take it home, I end up stuck on it instead of swimming while the dolphins are playing, surfing, watching sunsets, riding bikes or playing with my son.......so catch up with y'all tomorrow and have a great night!

IM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 05:12:33 PM
I can only come up with two reasons that maybe the poster added on that Ron was stoned. She and her husband live in the area, and maybe they have seen him stoned. But maybe by saying he was stoned is easier for her and her husband to accept what Ron shouted at him, maybe it would he harder to accept if he wasn't stoned and being just plain mean. ::MonkeyConfused::

2 great points NRCG!!!! Excellent thinking, well I'm outta here. I've decided to leave the laptop at work and enjoy living my life everyday after work on the beach and IF I take it home, I end up stuck on it instead of swimming while the dolphins are playing, surfing, watching sunsets, riding bikes or playing with my son.......so catch up with y'all tomorrow and have a great night!

IM
You have a great night also, so happy Elijah is doing so well  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 18, 2009, 05:15:08 PM
I can only come up with two reasons that maybe the poster added on that Ron was stoned. She and her husband live in the area, and maybe they have seen him stoned. But maybe by saying he was stoned is easier for her and her husband to accept what Ron shouted at him, maybe it would he harder to accept if he wasn't stoned and being just plain mean. ::MonkeyConfused::

2 great points NRCG!!!! Excellent thinking, well I'm outta here. I've decided to leave the laptop at work and enjoy living my life everyday after work on the beach and IF I take it home, I end up stuck on it instead of swimming while the dolphins are playing, surfing, watching sunsets, riding bikes or playing with my son.......so catch up with y'all tomorrow and have a great night!

IM
You have a great night also, so happy Elijah is doing so well  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Rosie~he is a little sweety ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 05:15:35 PM
(My husband went out to the mailbox and Ron rode by in his pick up truck,stoned, and called my husband the N word.) This is from the woman blstarke who has searched for Haleigh with her own dog. I really don't know what to say  ::MonkeyEek::

I don't know if this is true or not. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.  But I would like to know how her husband knows Ron was stoned if he rode by in his truck?  How can you determine someone is stoned when they drive by?    Did anyone perform a field sobriety test?   No one should call anyone (Ron allegedly calling her hubs)  degrogatory names if that is what happened, so I wouldn't excuse that behavior if true.  And neither should anyone accuse another( her hubs accusing Ron)  of being under the influence if they don't really know for sure if they are or if they are not.  JMHO

I agree Muffy, but as the sister of a brother who unfortunately has been stoned the majority of his life, you can tell...........it's sad and pathetic but when you are used to the signs, they are obvious when they speak to you, yell at you or even just being in his presence, it's so clear and very sad!                                                                   

Also, very possible since they all live in the same little community, that they know each quite well.  It is a shame, if he was or wasn't to act in such a manner.  I think his bad behavior is worse than the concept he was on anything.  These people volunteered out of the goodness of their heart to help find Haleigh.. Respect is the least that ron would owe both people.  Why be so mean and hateful after their attempts to help?  If suddenly he has become racial against people, because of wifey's actions,  why punish others when it should be something she needs to resolve with ron.  she was not forced into doing the things she did, she went more than willingly.  ron apparently, needs to get a grip on his anger and emotions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 05:18:07 PM
I can only come up with two reasons that maybe the poster added on that Ron was stoned. She and her husband live in the area, and maybe they have seen him stoned. But maybe by saying he was stoned is easier for her and her husband to accept what Ron shouted at him, maybe it would he harder to accept if he wasn't stoned and being just plain mean. ::MonkeyConfused::

2 great points NRCG!!!! Excellent thinking, well I'm outta here. I've decided to leave the laptop at work and enjoy living my life everyday after work on the beach and IF I take it home, I end up stuck on it instead of swimming while the dolphins are playing, surfing, watching sunsets, riding bikes or playing with my son.......so catch up with y'all tomorrow and have a great night!

IM
You have a great night also, so happy Elijah is doing so well  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Rosie~he is a little sweety ::MonkeyAngel::

We are jealous.... Have a great evening..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 05:22:31 PM
I agree with what you said mlee.   ron apparently, needs to get a grip on his anger and emotions.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 05:31:38 PM
I agree with what you said mlee.   ron apparently, needs to get a grip on his anger and emotions.

One thing I do hope, if the reported incident last week with him and short elevator were outside fighting, and he shoved her into the side of the house and then to the ground.. I do hope that Little Ron was a safe distance away..  Can you imagine how this is effecting him... Why should he feel safe? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 05:43:30 PM
I agree with what you said mlee.   ron apparently, needs to get a grip on his anger and emotions.

One thing I do hope, if the reported incident last week with him and short elevator were outside fighting, and he shoved her into the side of the house and then to the ground.. I do hope that Little Ron was a safe distance away..  Can you imagine how this is effecting him... Why should he feel safe? 
I certainly hope he wasn't around, I can't imagine how all of this is effecting him.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 06:27:35 PM
Here are more names.  There are 4 in the same general area.  Crescent City and Ponoma Park.

Thomas Tree Service
1.Timberfalls Tree Service
2.Timberfalls Tree Service
Southern Tree & Stump Removal

 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189

____________________________________________________________________

Quote from: fatcatlurker on Today at 08:53:40 AM
Island thank you.  This DNA thing sounds awfully suspect to me.  Sounds to me like they have something and local LE got the wrong kind of samples from family.

Also Ron supposedly has 2 jobs he does side landscaping for his aunt Katrina Belcher?

Maybe we should ask the Pastor/Reverand of Ron's to verify what the funds can be used for?

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:gvRuC7nOwMUJ:scaredmonkeys.net/index.php%3Ftopic%3D4634.msg704587+%22Watts+Funeral+Home%22+florida+landscape&cd=28&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

_____________________________________________________________________

Rothermel Land Clearing & Hauling
1952 S Us Highway 17, Crescent City, FL 32112

Whitaker Lawn Service
109 Huntington Shortcut Rd, Crescent City, FL 32112


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 06:30:42 PM
Thanks sweet monkeys for the companies names. I am still working on it. I not only need the name of the companies but then I have to find the owners and then do a criminal check.... I am working on it.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 06:41:59 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 06:42:23 PM
Thanks sweet monkeys for the companies names. I am still working on it. I not only need the name of the companies but then I have to find the owners and then do a criminal check.... I am working on it.... ::MonkeyTongue::

You've taken on a hefty job JG. But one very much appreciated.  If I run across something I will let you know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
I have the ower's name not going to post it yet.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Special Touch Lawn Services
Address: 412 N Lake St, Crescent City, FL 32112-2422




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I think you have it with Belcher......  also Heart just listed the Belcher landscaping and this is his Aunt and Uncle..  This is going to be it..  Question, Would ron have a huge fight with a relative?????  Oh yea....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 06:53:06 PM


The owner of this company not disclosed.... ::MonkeyTongue::

Company Name: Whitaker Lawn Service
Address: 109 Huntington Short Cut, Crescent City, FL 32112 (Map)
Alt Business Name: 
Location Type: Single Location
Est. Annual Sales:  View Details 
Est. # of Employees: 1 
Est. Empl. at Loc.: 1 
Year Started: 2003 
State of Incorp: 
SIC #Code:  View Details 
Contact's Name: 
Contact's Title: 
NAICS: Landscaping Services


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 06:55:39 PM
Company Name: Jj Lawn ServiceIs This Your Company?
Address: 527 Clifton Rd, Crescent City, FL 32112-5405 (Map)
Alt Business Name: 
Location Type: Single Location
Est. Annual Sales:  View Details 
Est. # of Employees: 1 
Est. Empl. at Loc.: 1 
Year Started: 2003 
State of Incorp: 
SIC #Code:  View Details 
Contact's Name: Janice Berry 
Contact's Title: Owner
NAICS: Landscaping Services


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 07:00:58 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 07:02:49 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 07:03:11 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


This is a Hellooo...  UCN: 542001DR000370FDXXXX

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2001-03-20 >REC OR BK 850.0 PG 1445 FL# 408615 

2001-04-27 008.RECEIPT FOR PAYMENT OF FILING FEE BY PETITIONER 

2001-05-30 009.COPY OF $20.00 CHECK (# 023571) SENT TO PUTNAM CO 

2001-05-30 >SHERIFFS OFFICE 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I think you have it with Belcher......  also Heart just listed the Belcher landscaping and this is his Aunt and Uncle..  This is going to be it..  Question, Would ron have a huge fight with a relative?????  Oh yea....

Katrina was Ron witness when he got married... Does she live in Crescent city?? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 18, 2009, 07:07:14 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



Hi brand new here!!!
I have a question is this the same aunt and uncle that Ron was raised by that are related to a Jason Squires also of Crescent City?
I think you have it with Belcher......  also Heart just listed the Belcher landscaping and this is his Aunt and Uncle..  This is going to be it..  Question, Would ron have a huge fight with a relative?????  Oh yea....

Katrina was Ron witness when he got married... Does she live in Crescent city?? ::MonkeyTongue::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 07:08:31 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


I am  not 100 per cent sure but I think Eric and Katrina got divorce... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 07:21:25 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:24:15 PM
Good evening monkeys!....found this....

Kangaroo ExpressServing Satsuma
1171 S US Highway 17
Satsuma, FL 32189-2716


Driving directions to Kangaroo Express

4.5 mi – about 10 mins

 202 Green Ln FL 32189

1. Head northwest on Green Ln toward Monroe Ave  13 ft
2. Slight right at Monroe Ave  246 ft
3. Turn right at Tyler St  0.4 mi
4. Turn right at Buffalo Bluff Rd  1.2 mi
5. Turn left at S US-17  2.4 mi
6. Turn left at San Mateo Rd  420 ft
7. Turn right at Payne Rd  151 ft
8. Turn left at Magnolia  0.2 mi
9. Turn left to stay on Magnolia  0.1 mi


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:27:05 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



I am pretty sure that is it drywall co........I remember reading a post somewhere that said t&t drywall?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



Oh I forgot to add:

I wonder what Misty's brother's feelings are toward Ron.

Did either one or both of Misty's brothers attend the wedding ceremony?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 07:30:34 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 07:31:56 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



I am pretty sure that is it drywall co........I remember reading a post somewhere that said t&t drywall?

Thank you my2cents!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 07:32:30 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



You know what thats what I keep on asking Misty had the blue van monday morning .. How did she to return the car and get back to Green lane???? maybe we can check his my space for info Timmy and Tommy....  ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 07:34:52 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


Where did I read that Katrina Belcher was a stand up for someone's wedding.... geez can't remember now.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 07:37:09 PM
Picked up this bit of info....that the brother of Misty's on Tyler St. was seen visiting Jerome Williams....and that Ron and Misty do not know Jerome??????????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:37:55 PM
Looks like Ron lived really close to Memas restraunt..

http://national.citysearch.com/profile/2242939/satsuma_fl/mema_s_family_restaurant.html#profileTab-maps
 
To memas restraunt

Start out going east on Green ln. 0 miles
Turn left 0.05 miles
Turn right onto Tyler St 0.36 miles
Turn right onto Buffalo Bluff road E/CR -309B 1.21 miles
Turn right onto  N hwy17/US17/FL-15 0.42 miles
Arrive in 1147 S US hwy 17

Total distance 2.04 miles    Total time 4.3 minutes

Memas restraunt is just a hop and a skip from the Huddlehouse...
http://national.citysearch.com/profile/2242939/satsuma_fl/mema_s_family_restaurant.html#profileTab-maps
 
From memas to the huddle house
Total distance 0.28 miles  total time o.4 minutes
Straight shot there



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 07:41:17 PM
Company Name: Special Touch Lawn Service
Address: 412 N Lake St, Crescent City, FL 32112-2422 
Alt Business Name: 
Location Type: Single Location
Est. Annual Sales:  View Details 
Est. # of Employees: 1 
Est. Empl. at Loc.: 1 
Year Started: 2002 
State of Incorp: 
SIC #Code:  View Details 
Contact's Name: Roberto G Rodriguez 
Contact's Title: Principal
NAICS: Landscaping Services


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:41:23 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



You know what thats what I keep on asking Misty had the blue van monday morning .. How did she to return the car and get back to Green lane???? maybe we can check his my space for info Timmy and Tommy....  ::MonkeyTongue::

Remember MC saying in the video that her blanket was in the van that they took? I am thinking that was why the brother was there Monday was to pick up the van?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 07:42:59 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


Where did I read that Katrina Belcher was a stand up for someone's wedding.... geez can't remember now.

I posted the doc from Putname offical records... Katrina a witness and a Whitmore


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ~FystyAngel~ on May 18, 2009, 07:45:56 PM
Hi, THis is my first post, so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

I have been following this case since the beginning. Something struck me last night, so I thought I'd post it here & see what you all think about it.

Chuck's Bail Bonds is who bailed out at LEAST three of the players in this case. Jerome, Amber & Nay Nay, correct?  Also, 10% of whatever the bail was is what had to be paid in cash, but they also have to put up the rest of the bond in "collateral", correct?  WHERE would Nay Nay or Amber get that kind of collateral?  Is there any way for us to find out WHO bailed out RON on each of his jail stays???

Here's just a "thought"...Maybe this "Chuck" who is also a registered sex offender wanted more than money to bail out some of these people. I mean, Amber & Nay Nay were PO'ed at Misty (and probably Ron too), correct??? With ALL of Ron's charges, where would HE get collateral for bond???  I sure hope it isn't Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:46:45 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189





I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


Where did I read that Katrina Belcher was a stand up for someone's wedding.... geez can't remember now.

Katrina was witness for Ron and Misty on their marriage certificate...here is the link
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:50:42 PM
Welcome Fystyangel!....glad to see you posting... ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:52:48 PM
Picked up this bit of info....that the brother of Misty's on Tyler St. was seen visiting Jerome Williams....and that Ron and Misty do not know Jerome??????????

Ron and Misty do not do drugs either remember????


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 07:53:47 PM
Hi, THis is my first post, so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

I have been following this case since the beginning. Something struck me last night, so I thought I'd post it here & see what you all think about it.

Chuck's Bail Bonds is who bailed out at LEAST three of the players in this case. Jerome, Amber & Nay Nay, correct?  Also, 10% of whatever the bail was is what had to be paid in cash, but they also have to put up the rest of the bond in "collateral", correct?  WHERE would Nay Nay or Amber get that kind of collateral?  Is there any way for us to find out WHO bailed out RON on each of his jail stays???

Here's just a "thought"...Maybe this "Chuck" who is also a registered sex offender wanted more than money to bail out some of these people. I mean, Amber & Nay Nay were PO'ed at Misty (and probably Ron too), correct??? With ALL of Ron's charges, where would HE get collateral for bond???  I sure hope it isn't Haleigh.
WELCOME  Those are some great thoughts  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 18, 2009, 07:54:56 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



You know what thats what I keep on asking Misty had the blue van monday morning .. How did she to return the car and get back to Green lane???? maybe we can check his my space for info Timmy and Tommy....  ::MonkeyTongue::

Timothy's myspace
http://www.myspace.com/tim_tim1



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 07:55:13 PM
WECOME NEW MONKEY'S


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 18, 2009, 07:56:51 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



easy reference for the croslin family .... here is Flora's ( Misty's grandmother ) myspace with most grandkids as friends
http://www.myspace.com/florahollars6aolcom
You know what thats what I keep on asking Misty had the blue van monday morning .. How did she to return the car and get back to Green lane???? maybe we can check his my space for info Timmy and Tommy....  ::MonkeyTongue::

Timothy's myspace
http://www.myspace.com/tim_tim1




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
Remember us discussing Rons hands in one of the earlier videos ...how it looked like he had been in a fight? could have been from that Monday afternoon when he confronted the tree trimmers? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 07:57:29 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::

yep  ::MonkeyTongue::

Grama I read that also, did you see that at WS?  If so the poster who posted that had a few interesting posts. They said that the brother seen with Jerome was Hank Jr, do you know which brother that is?

Wlecome!!  ~FystyAngel~   :smt039


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 07:58:50 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189



I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


I am  not 100 per cent sure but I think Eric and Katrina got divorce... ::MonkeyTongue::

From what I have seen, I do agree they probably did, but.. one could have kept the land scaping company and the other the tree cutting..  I was going throught the property issues..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: penny for your thoughts on May 18, 2009, 07:59:25 PM
Hi monkeys
  I am new and I am not sure exactly how to post yet so if it seems I am responding to the wrong posts please bear with me : ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 08:09:14 PM
Picked up this bit of info....that the brother of Misty's on Tyler St. was seen visiting Jerome Williams....and that Ron and Misty do not know Jerome??????????

JMO, I find it strange that these drug dealers/users jailbirds don't know one another.

WBG does not know Ronald

Ronald and Misty don't know the infamous Pimp Daddy Jerome.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil,  but do all the evil you can while you are a free man and can.   ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 08:12:20 PM
Welcome FystyAngel and Penny for your thoughts!!!
Good evening everyone  :)

And newly arrested for probation violation is the NayNay's mama, yes?

WHERE'S HALEIGH??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 08:12:48 PM
Hi monkeys
  I am new and I am not sure exactly how to post yet so if it seems I am responding to the wrong posts please bear with me : ::MonkeyCool::

Hi there penny for your thoughts,  welcome aboard.
Jump in and get you monkey paws wet  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 18, 2009, 08:13:33 PM
Welcome penny for you thoughts!!!.....post away....we need all of the opinions we can get  ::cartwheel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 08:15:52 PM
Hi monkeys
  I am new and I am not sure exactly how to post yet so if it seems I am responding to the wrong posts please bear with me : ::MonkeyCool::
WELCOME you will get it soon, don't worry  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 08:19:54 PM
JG, do you know what Timothy Croslin does for a living?

I wonder if Misty was at Chelsea's and Timothy's house on Monday morning Feb 9th.

How did Misty get to and from the hospital to see her father?  What day was it that Misty visited her father in the hospital, was it that Sunday or that Monday?



You know what thats what I keep on asking Misty had the blue van monday morning .. How did she to return the car and get back to Green lane???? maybe we can check his my space for info Timmy and Tommy....  ::MonkeyTongue::

Timothy's myspace
http://www.myspace.com/tim_tim1



Thanks penny for your thoughts!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ~FystyAngel~ on May 18, 2009, 08:22:15 PM
Thank you all for such a warm welcome!   In Rons arrest records  ~~~> 
Quote
2006-08-01  $504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00601638 07-29-06
(taken from Ron Cummings police record) Chuck's at least bailed Ron out that one time. I can't find anything else as far as WHO did it for any of his other arrests.  I pray that Haleigh wasn't snatched for payment TO CHUCK! UGH. Maybe for "collateral" for someone's bond??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::

yep  ::MonkeyTongue::

Grama I read that also, did you see that at WS?  If so the poster who posted that had a few interesting posts. They said that the brother seen with Jerome was Hank Jr, do you know which brother that is?

Wlecome!!  ~FystyAngel~   :smt039

Thomas Hank Croslin Jr DOB Sept 26, 1986 (Misty's brother)

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:nwb1-7UddnUJ:www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D79849+hank+croslin+jr&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 08:23:44 PM
Hi monkeys
  I am new and I am not sure exactly how to post yet so if it seems I am responding to the wrong posts please bear with me : ::MonkeyCool::

Your doing just fine.. Penny for your thoughts.. Welcome to the Gage, with us Crazy Monkey's..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 08:25:14 PM
Welcome FystyAngel and Penny for your thoughts!!!
Good evening everyone  :)

And newly arrested for probation violation is the NayNay's mama, yes?

WHERE'S HALEIGH??


Hey Thunder Bunny...  Hon, its apples and trees.. and I guarentee you in that county, the apples fall right next to the root.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 08:26:31 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::

yep  ::MonkeyTongue::

Grama I read that also, did you see that at WS?  If so the poster who posted that had a few interesting posts. They said that the brother seen with Jerome was Hank Jr, do you know which brother that is?

Wlecome!!  ~FystyAngel~   :smt039

Thomas Hank Croslin Jr DOB Sept 26, 1986 (Misty's brother)

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:nwb1-7UddnUJ:www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D79849+hank+croslin+jr&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Thanks Heart! So it was Tommy .... I get so confused with all these different characters.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 08:26:45 PM
Thank you all for such a warm welcome!   In Rons arrest records  ~~~> 
Quote
2006-08-01  $504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00601638 07-29-06
(taken from Ron Cummings police record) Chuck's at least bailed Ron out that one time. I can't find anything else as far as WHO did it for any of his other arrests.  I pray that Haleigh wasn't snatched for payment TO CHUCK! UGH. Maybe for "collateral" for someone's bond??

Welcome to the Cage,  FystyAngel.. we have new Monkeys tonight.. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 08:28:10 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::

is this her sister??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 08:31:07 PM
Remember us discussing Rons hands in one of the earlier videos ...how it looked like he had been in a fight? could have been from that Monday afternoon when he confronted the tree trimmers? ::MonkeyConfused::

I keep posting and I will rule the board... anyway.. its a shame the tree trimmers didn't trim ron down a notch or 2..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 08:36:10 PM
Jersey?  I think it's naynay's mama.  but i've been know to be wrong.  <grin>


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 08:36:11 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::

is this her sister??

Not sure JG there was thoughts that it was her mom, but I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed or not.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TxLady2 on May 18, 2009, 08:36:58 PM
Hi, THis is my first post, so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

I have been following this case since the beginning. Something struck me last night, so I thought I'd post it here & see what you all think about it.

Chuck's Bail Bonds is who bailed out at LEAST three of the players in this case. Jerome, Amber & Nay Nay, correct?  Also, 10% of whatever the bail was is what had to be paid in cash, but they also have to put up the rest of the bond in "collateral", correct?  WHERE would Nay Nay or Amber get that kind of collateral?  Is there any way for us to find out WHO bailed out RON on each of his jail stays???

Here's just a "thought"...Maybe this "Chuck" who is also a registered sex offender wanted more than money to bail out some of these people. I mean, Amber & Nay Nay were PO'ed at Misty (and probably Ron too), correct??? With ALL of Ron's charges, where would HE get collateral for bond???  I sure hope it isn't Haleigh.

The bond company, or bondsman, is who puts up the collateral for the entire bond. You pay 10% to the bondsman and he guarantees that you will appear in court. You do not get that 10% back, it goes to the bondsman. But the person bonding out does not have to have collateral for the entire bond... the bondsman does, that's how he makes his money.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 08:37:32 PM
I seriously doubt the Jr. is living/sleeping in a tent in the backyard at Granny Sikes...where does this stuff come from??? maybe some of the other grand kids were sleeping out? kids like to do that where I come from...not that I would allow it with all the crime going on...but kids love it...maybe there is a tent set up with an awning and the adults and children sit out there in the evenings? heck, I would hate to think the worst of someone just cause they have a tent set up in their back yard.....
don't you all think that if Jr's conditions were such that he was forced to live in a tent that children's social services would be all over this and that Kim and Crystal would have reported this to the authorities? where does Jr stay when he is with Crystal? what are the living conditions where she is staying..? anyone checked into this?

Well, I am sure we can find the address..  If you get time you can run up and check it out, or next time HH is in Satsuma she can check it out.. and then we will know.

I live in Illinois so not something that I will be doing anytime soon....  ::MonkeyRoll:: How bout you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: TxLady2 on May 18, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
Just a thought on the discussion about Ron calling blstarke's husband the N word and whether or not he was 'stoned.' Depending on how close the mailbox is to the road, he may have been close enough to make a determination that he was indeed stoned. I can see some people's faces clearly as they pass down my road, and if I am at my mailbox, it would be easy for me to tell if one was drunk or high on something. JMO. Regardless.... it was not a nice thing to do, in fact it's disgusting!!

Also.. I watched JVM tonight to see if the incident of Misty hitting Jr. in the head at the clinic was mentioned, but I had my doubts that it would be because it is not sensational enough for them to put aside the stories on Drew Peterson, and Cindy and George Anthony, IMO. Jane covered Drew's hearing for almost 30 minutes, and that case is going to take up a lot of airtime from now through the trial. Shame, isn't it, that a missing child is forgotten while that slimeball gets his picture on t.v. and everything he does is hashed and rehashed.

I can say the same for NG... Casey Anthony has dominated her show for nearly a year now.. and she covers very little else. It's a SHAME, I tell you!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: ~FystyAngel~ on May 18, 2009, 08:51:16 PM
Hi, THis is my first post, so please let me know if I'm doing something wrong.

I have been following this case since the beginning. Something struck me last night, so I thought I'd post it here & see what you all think about it.

Chuck's Bail Bonds is who bailed out at LEAST three of the players in this case. Jerome, Amber & Nay Nay, correct?  Also, 10% of whatever the bail was is what had to be paid in cash, but they also have to put up the rest of the bond in "collateral", correct?  WHERE would Nay Nay or Amber get that kind of collateral?  Is there any way for us to find out WHO bailed out RON on each of his jail stays???

Here's just a "thought"...Maybe this "Chuck" who is also a registered sex offender wanted more than money to bail out some of these people. I mean, Amber & Nay Nay were PO'ed at Misty (and probably Ron too), correct??? With ALL of Ron's charges, where would HE get collateral for bond???  I sure hope it isn't Haleigh.

The bond company, or bondsman, is who puts up the collateral for the entire bond. You pay 10% to the bondsman and he guarantees that you will appear in court. You do not get that 10% back, it goes to the bondsman. But the person bonding out does not have to have collateral for the entire bond... the bondsman does, that's how he makes his money.

Many, Many years ago, I bailed out my little brother from a Florida Jail. (different county though) I had excellent credit, two jobs, a house & a car. THe bond was only $5,000 but the bondsman made me give up the title to my car for collateral for the $5,000.  BESIDES the 10% cash (that yes, he kept)  When my brother went to court, I got the title to my car back.  Maybe it just depends on the Bonding agency but I've always heard that you must have collateral valued at the total bond.  hhmmm


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 08:51:27 PM
Boy if thats Nay Nay mom she looks pretty young 3 years younger than Fibsty mom... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
JULIE  DAWN  PREVATT
PALM COAST,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/18/2009 6:40:59 PM  - Booking#: 09-02043
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 5/17/1973 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: F
Charges       Misd/Felony   Degree   Bond   Bond Posted
948.06-   PROB VIOLATION    N   N    $0.00    
                $0.00    

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754179&IMG=

They got her  ::MonkeyTongue::

is this her sister??

LOL JG,  I was waiting on you to straighten that one out.  I don't know if she is related to Ney Ney are not.  I checked the white pages for Prevatts in Palm Coast, but no Julie listed. There were 4 listings which a couple are businesses.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 09:05:02 PM
On another forum it is being said that NayNay's mom's name is Vera, so if that is true, which I have no idea, then I wonder who this woman is?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 09:12:47 PM
Just a thought on the discussion about Ron calling blstarke's husband the N word and whether or not he was 'stoned.' Depending on how close the mailbox is to the road, he may have been close enough to make a determination that he was indeed stoned. I can see some people's faces clearly as they pass down my road, and if I am at my mailbox, it would be easy for me to tell if one was drunk or high on something. JMO. Regardless.... it was not a nice thing to do, in fact it's disgusting!!

Also.. I watched JVM tonight to see if the incident of Misty hitting Jr. in the head at the clinic was mentioned, but I had my doubts that it would be because it is not sensational enough for them to put aside the stories on Drew Peterson, and Cindy and George Anthony, IMO. Jane covered Drew's hearing for almost 30 minutes, and that case is going to take up a lot of airtime from now through the trial. Shame, isn't it, that a missing child is forgotten while that slimeball gets his picture on t.v. and everything he does is hashed and rehashed.

I can say the same for NG... Casey Anthony has dominated her show for nearly a year now.. and she covers very little else. It's a SHAME, I tell you!!
I guess these shows only cover what they believe people are interested in, and Drew Peterson will be a very hot topic just like Casey. Greta use to cover a lot of cases, I haven't watched her in ages, because all she does is politics, and I'm not interested. But I did like Greta's show when she did follow these cases. As far as blstarke's post about what Ron said to her husband, I believe her, she does not come across to me as a liar, and I'm sure she and her husband are upset, and they should be.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 09:29:27 PM
Supposedly Ron worked on February 9th. Working for his Aunt Katrina. Don't know how to verify that though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 09:39:32 PM
Supposedly Ron worked on February 9th. Working for his Aunt Katrina. Don't know how to verify that though.


So Ron took Haleigh to school, worked for his aunt doing landscapping or whatever (was that in Crescent City), picked Haleigh up at the school bus stop, went to work at PDM all on Feb 9th.

Looks like no drugs for him that day.

If we keep getting info like this we will have to start saying that Ron is a hard working law abiding citizen.  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 09:46:10 PM
I seriously doubt the Jr. is living/sleeping in a tent in the backyard at Granny Sikes...where does this stuff come from??? maybe some of the other grand kids were sleeping out? kids like to do that where I come from...not that I would allow it with all the crime going on...but kids love it...maybe there is a tent set up with an awning and the adults and children sit out there in the evenings? heck, I would hate to think the worst of someone just cause they have a tent set up in their back yard.....
don't you all think that if Jr's conditions were such that he was forced to live in a tent that children's social services would be all over this and that Kim and Crystal would have reported this to the authorities? where does Jr stay when he is with Crystal? what are the living conditions where she is staying..? anyone checked into this?
I live in the community that will host the US Open in 2013....  Tar Heal  Alley........
Well, I am sure we can find the address..  If you get time you can run up and check it out, or next time HH is in Satsuma she can check it out.. and then we will know.

I live in Illinois so not something that I will be doing anytime soon....  ::MonkeyRoll:: How bout you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 09:51:05 PM
Supposedly Ron worked on February 9th. Working for his Aunt Katrina. Don't know how to verify that though.


So Ron took Haleigh to school, worked for his aunt doing landscapping or whatever (was that in Crescent City), picked Haleigh up at the school bus stop, went to work at PDM all on Feb 9th.

Looks like no drugs for him that day.

If we keep getting info like this we will have to start saying that Ron is a hard working law abiding citizen.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Who reported he worked that day for his Aunt, From the interview, it was noted that he had gone to Crescent City to try to retrieve Money he was owed and got into a big disagreement with the guy who he used to work for, who owned the tree Cutting Co.  Where did you find the posting on his working that day?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 18, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
Supposedly Ron worked on February 9th. Working for his Aunt Katrina. Don't know how to verify that though.


So Ron took Haleigh to school, worked for his aunt doing landscapping or whatever (was that in Crescent City), picked Haleigh up at the school bus stop, went to work at PDM all on Feb 9th.

Looks like no drugs for him that day.

If we keep getting info like this we will have to start saying that Ron is a hard working law abiding citizen.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Who reported he worked that day for his Aunt, From the interview, it was noted that he had gone to Crescent City to try to retrieve Money he was owed and got into a big disagreement with the guy who he used to work for, who owned the tree Cutting Co.  Where did you find the posting on his working that day?
From a local at WS, that he worked for his aunt that day, if he had this fight, maybe he had the fight there, I don't know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 09:59:58 PM
Boy if thats Nay Nay mom she looks pretty young 3 years younger than Fibsty mom... ::MonkeyTongue::

How old is short elevator's Mom?..  Nay Nay is 17 right..   If the Mom were 34 or 35 that would be within the right age to have a 17 year old daughter...  In fact Amber and Crystal were both about 17 when they had babies.  I don't know..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 10:11:52 PM
according to Wyks "family tree" thread:

KNOWN FAMILY MEMBERS - ALPHABETICAL LIST

Belcher (?), Dana
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

Belcher, Katrina
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

is this the same woman that some are saying is Ron's aunt who has the tree service?  This says that Katrina is Crystal's aunt...not Ron's....for what it's worth...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 10:15:19 PM
Heart or jerseygirl ~ Did one of you post Ron's marriage license????  I believe this Katrina Sykes Belcher is the one that stood up for Ron & Misty.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 10:17:02 PM
Heart or jerseygirl ~ Did one of you post Ron's marriage license????  I believe this Katrina Sykes Belcher is the one that stood up for Ron & Misty.



there is a link a page or so back...
so, is Crystals aunt still friendly with Ron? friendly enough to stand up for him as a witness at this wedding? does that make sense?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 10:17:27 PM
Heart or jerseygirl ~ Did one of you post Ron's marriage license????  I believe this Katrina Sykes Belcher is the one that stood up for Ron & Misty.



I don't think they did Grama, but I can repost the domestic violence charges from Belcher against Annette Sykes.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
Heart or jerseygirl ~ Did one of you post Ron's marriage license????  I believe this Katrina Sykes Belcher is the one that stood up for Ron & Misty.



she did hang on a sec I'll post it


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 10:19:29 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189





I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


Where did I read that Katrina Belcher was a stand up for someone's wedding.... geez can't remember now.

Katrina was witness for Ron and Misty on their marriage certificate...here is the link
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

grama...here is the link....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 10:20:47 PM
Supposedly Ron worked on February 9th. Working for his Aunt Katrina. Don't know how to verify that though.


So Ron took Haleigh to school, worked for his aunt doing landscapping or whatever (was that in Crescent City), picked Haleigh up at the school bus stop, went to work at PDM all on Feb 9th.

Looks like no drugs for him that day.

If we keep getting info like this we will have to start saying that Ron is a hard working law abiding citizen.  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Who reported he worked that day for his Aunt, From the interview, it was noted that he had gone to Crescent City to try to retrieve Money he was owed and got into a big disagreement with the guy who he used to work for, who owned the tree Cutting Co.  Where did you find the posting on his working that day?
From a local at WS, that he worked for his aunt that day, if he had this fight, maybe he had the fight there, I don't know.

Ron's Aunt lives in "Satsuma" at the address listed on one of the previous pages right? (I'm not sure on that is why I am asking.)
With all this going on though (If this is what really happened working for the Aunt ect...) I am wondering how Ron had the time to gain enough trust to know for certain that Misty would even stay to watch the kids ect...without hugely smoothing things over between them first? Also who was watching JR whilst all this was going on? And...I thought Ron went and got Misty and brought her back to the house himself correct?
At what time was it that these things were happening because I also thought Misty visited her Father at the hospital that day?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 10:21:11 PM
according to Wyks "family tree" thread:

KNOWN FAMILY MEMBERS - ALPHABETICAL LIST

Belcher (?), Dana
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

Belcher, Katrina
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

is this the same woman that some are saying is Ron's aunt who has the tree service?  This says that Katrina is Crystal's aunt...not Ron's....for what it's worth...

so are we saying that Crystal's aunt stood up for Ron and Misty when they got married??? anyone???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 10:21:57 PM
Remember us discussing Rons hands in one of the earlier videos ...how it looked like he had been in a fight? could have been from that Monday afternoon when he confronted the tree trimmers? ::MonkeyConfused::
It could be due to his type of work.  Someone posted a link to some videos on yesterday.  On one of the videos I saw one Ron's hand all beat up and scarred while at the same time he was holding Haleigh in his lap.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 10:27:24 PM
according to Wyks "family tree" thread:

KNOWN FAMILY MEMBERS - ALPHABETICAL LIST

Belcher (?), Dana
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

Belcher, Katrina
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

is this the same woman that some are saying is Ron's aunt who has the tree service?  This says that Katrina is Crystal's aunt...not Ron's....for what it's worth...

so are we saying that Crystal's aunt stood up for Ron and Misty when they got married??? anyone???

Weird. I've seen where  black sheep of one family become glue to black sheep of opposing families before though. Or if the Aunt has issue with Crystal and her Mother she might be sidesy with an ex???
Just plain weird to me though no matter what.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 10:29:08 PM
snipped from heart... great info... ::MonkeyTongue::


 Belcher Tree Service Katrina
(386) 385-3685
Address: 116 Edgewater Rd, Satsuma, FL 32189





I was checking on Belchers and ran across a tid bit.. its a few years old, but think the families have a few issues....
BELCHER ERIC    Defendants  SYKES ANNETTE 


Where did I read that Katrina Belcher was a stand up for someone's wedding.... geez can't remember now.

Katrina was witness for Ron and Misty on their marriage certificate...here is the link
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

grama...here is the link....

Right on the money.. Grama..  Katrina Belcher and Rena Whitmore witness's to the marriage..  Hummmmm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 10:32:21 PM
(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/200954672258.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



That makes a lot more sense to me if that is the case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 10:37:36 PM
according to Wyks "family tree" thread:

KNOWN FAMILY MEMBERS - ALPHABETICAL LIST

Belcher (?), Dana
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

Belcher, Katrina
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

is this the same woman that some are saying is Ron's aunt who has the tree service?  This says that Katrina is Crystal's aunt...not Ron's....for what it's worth...

so are we saying that Crystal's aunt stood up for Ron and Misty when they got married??? anyone???
Cookie, I don't know which side Katrina is blood related to myself.  But it looks as though she was there early on in the case.  See below:


"Whoever has got her, please bring her home safe. I don't know why you would take her in the first place, but just bring her home," said Katrina Belcher, Haleigh's great aunt.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:8m545Wjp5JkJ:www.fox30online.com/mostpopular/story/A-Mothers-Cry-For-Help/TwdaJFV9t0ODzROdRdHwRg.cspx+katrina+belcher+ron+cummings&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Defendant
SYKES, DOROTHY ANNETTE
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2001-09-21 1 COMPLAINT KATRINA BELCHER HARASSING PHONE CALLS

2001-11-28 2 INFORMATION HARASSING TELEPHONE CALLS

2001-12-05 3 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT BY SHERIFF'S SERVICE (01/22/2002)

Defendant
SYKES, DOROTHY ANNETTE
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2008-04-09 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO D/S ROBERT NELSON (4/2/08)

2008-04-09 1 INTERFERENCE OF CHILD CUSTODY

2008-04-30 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO ALL COUNTS

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:jEEaqP_Pa4EJ:boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php%3Fp%3D12847194+katrina+belcher+ron+cummings&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

SATSUMA - Like most 5-year olds, Haleigh Cummings is afraid of the dark.

Because of that, Katrina Belcher, Haleigh's aunt, knows her niece would not leave the house unattended for no reason, especially at 3 a.m.

"She gets scared when she's not with her family - and she's not one to talk to strangers," Belcher said.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:ORVgokoaNAEJ:www.amandabrownfoundation.org/archives/2009/02/amber_alert_endangered_haleigh.php+katrina+belcher+ron+cummings&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 10:38:04 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Yes that's what it looks like   I would hate to work on that family tree ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 18, 2009, 10:38:52 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



do I hear Deliverance playing in the background?  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 10:47:30 PM
(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/200954672258.gif)

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 10:48:36 PM
Instrument: 415748 Trans Code: D - DEED 
Book: 860 File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36 Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES 


 From                                   To
SYKES ANNETTE                  BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY          BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K 

Image Link - Redacted


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Instrument: 432847 Trans Code: CCJ - CERTIFIED COPY OF A COURT JUDG 
Book: 885 File Date: 02-22-2002
Consideration: $ 0.00 Description: 02-19-02 $628.13 ETAL 


 From                                                                    To
GP COMMUNITY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION                BELCHER KATRINA
                                                                             SYKES KATRINA M AKA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 10:49:17 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Kissin' cousins at that...just sayin.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 10:52:27 PM
Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE   

::MonkeyDevil:: I looked Eric up ...... I was hopeful I could find someone related to this case with no record ......... I was wrong  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 18, 2009, 10:52:48 PM
On another forum it is being said that NayNay's mom's name is Vera, so if that is true, which I have no idea, then I wonder who this woman is?

If Vera Prevatt is nay nay's mom, then according to a search site Ad on Whitepages . com then her mom is possibly 55 years old and possibly has lived in Interlachen, Satsuma, and San mateo


Just search Vera Prevatt Florida on Whitepages.com and the ad should come up.  No phone listed though.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 10:55:26 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 10:55:49 PM
Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   


Instrument: 415749   Trans Code: MTG - MORTGAGE
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 22,000.00   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
BELCHER ERIC   HAGEMAN LEO J
BELCHER ERIC W   HAGEMAN RENATE
BELCHER KATRINA   


Instrument: 56887   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 482   File Date: 03-20-1986
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: LTS 11&12 DUNNS CREEK SEC 2ND ADD ST JOH

From   To
BELCHER LONNIE   SPURLOCK GEORGE D
BELCHER MELSTER   SPURLOCK JUDITH I
no record for instr 56887




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 10:59:16 PM
Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE   

::MonkeyDevil:: I looked Eric up ...... I was hopeful I could find someone related to this case with no record ......... I was wrong  ::MonkeyConfused::

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: We all could spend the rest of our lifetimes digging through this families chit and still have plenty left untouched for our great, great grandchilen to complete,  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 11:00:37 PM
Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   


Instrument: 415749   Trans Code: MTG - MORTGAGE
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 22,000.00   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
BELCHER ERIC   HAGEMAN LEO J
BELCHER ERIC W   HAGEMAN RENATE
BELCHER KATRINA   


Instrument: 56887   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 482   File Date: 03-20-1986
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: LTS 11&12 DUNNS CREEK SEC 2ND ADD ST JOH

From   To
BELCHER LONNIE   SPURLOCK GEORGE D
BELCHER MELSTER   SPURLOCK JUDITH I
no record for instr 56887



Heart you are really great at digging this stuff up.
Thank you very much for taking the time and getting this information for all of us to peruse.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 18, 2009, 11:04:13 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 11:04:58 PM
UCN: 542002MM003393XXAXMX
File Date: 2002-07-25   Judge: PETER T MILLER    
Defense Atty: FELICIANO, SHARON

Defendant
BELCHER, ERIC WADE
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2002-07-25   1   ARREST REPORT - R YOUNIS BATTERY - DVR KATRINA BEECHER
2002-07-25   1   ASSUALT - DVR
2002-07-26   2   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2002-07-26   2   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY
2002-07-26   2   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2002-07-26   2   $2504.00 BLANKET SECURED BOND SET
2002-07-26   2   NO CONTACT WITH ALLEGED VICTIM
2002-07-26   3   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2002-07-26   4   ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2002-07-26   4   CASE SET 07/29/2002 - DEFT IN PCJ
2002-07-30   5   ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT (SHARON FELICIANO)
2002-07-30   5   ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 10/02/2002
2002-07-30   5   BOND REDUCED TO $1004.00 SECURED - NO VICTIM CONTACT
2002-07-30   6   AFFIDAVIT
2002-07-30   6   ORDER OF INDIGENCY AND ORDER AS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER
2002-07-30   6   $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED
2002-07-30   7   PRE-TRIAL ORDER (10-02-2002)
2002-07-30   8   INMATE'S REQUEST SLIP
2002-08-06   9   ORDER SETTING SECURED BOND $1004.00
2002-08-20   10   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION
2002-08-29   11   INMATE'S REQUEST SLIP
2002-09-03   12   COPY OF NO INFORMATION RETURNED


UCN: 542004CF000186XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-01-27   Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM    
Defense Atty:

Defendant
BELCHER, ERIC WADE
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2004-01-27   1   ARREST REPORT - PCSO- ADKISSON (ARREST 1/26/2004)
2004-01-27   1   AGGRAVATED ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON
2004-01-27   1   BOND SET AT $ 2,004 BLANKET SECURED
2004-01-27   2   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2004-01-27   3   APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2004-02-03   4   $2004.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #P02-415189
2004-02-23   5   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION


UCN: 542004CF000187XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-01-27   Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM    
Defense Atty:

Defendant
BELCHER, ERIC WADE
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2004-01-27   1   ARREST REPORT - PCSO- ADKISSON (ARREST 1/26/2004)
2004-01-27   1   POSSESSIN OF CANNABIS UNDER 20 GRAMS
2004-01-27   1   POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
2004-01-27   1   BOND SET AT $ 2,004 SECURED BLANKET
2004-01-27   2   AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2004-01-27   3   APPLICATION AND ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2004-02-03   4   $2004.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #P02-415189
2004-02-23   5   ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: seahorse on May 18, 2009, 11:12:28 PM
according to Wyks "family tree" thread:

KNOWN FAMILY MEMBERS - ALPHABETICAL LIST

Belcher (?), Dana
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

Belcher, Katrina
aunt of Crystal Sheffield

is this the same woman that some are saying is Ron's aunt who has the tree service?  This says that Katrina is Crystal's aunt...not Ron's....for what it's worth...

so are we saying that Crystal's aunt stood up for Ron and Misty when they got married??? anyone???
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Katrina Sykes Belcher
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=katrina&qmi=&qn=Belcher&qs=FL&trackit=74


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 18, 2009, 11:13:34 PM
I searched whitepages. com for katrina belcher and she does have a Lawn / Tree Care Service listed


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 11:15:28 PM
I searched whitepages. com for katrina belcher and she does have a Lawn / Tree Care Service listed
JNGA is it listed in Satsuma or Crescent City or?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 11:16:26 PM
On another forum it is being said that NayNay's mom's name is Vera, so if that is true, which I have no idea, then I wonder who this woman is?

If Vera Prevatt is nay nay's mom, then according to a search site Ad on Whitepages . com then her mom is possibly 55 years old and possibly has lived in Interlachen, Satsuma, and San mateo


Just search Vera Prevatt Florida on Whitepages.com and the ad should come up.  No phone listed though.


I am guessing that Vera, age 55 is the mother to Julie age 36, and the grandmother to NayNay....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 18, 2009, 11:18:14 PM
Heart or jerseygirl ~ Did one of you post Ron's marriage license????  I believe this Katrina Sykes Belcher is the one that stood up for Ron & Misty.



I posted the marriage license awhile back.... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 18, 2009, 11:20:26 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Yes, JNGA ~  Another possibility.....which may just turn out to be a .....probability.....or truth.

I was surprised not to see one of Misty's SIL's as a witness for her.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 11:20:46 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 

I got the ants ready.. just in case.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 18, 2009, 11:22:07 PM
Satsuma


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 11:26:04 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Yes, JNGA ~  Another possibility.....which may just turn out to be a .....probability.....or truth.

I was surprised not to see one of Misty's SIL's as a witness for her.

Well, you never maybe Mrs. Whitmore is her Aunt..  Lets see, if Amber and Crystal are cousins, and Crystal and ron are cousins, maybe ron and Amber are cousins too.. Gosh, if ron gets rid of short elevator and then gets with her cousin, with that make Amber and Crystal cousins of short elevator and her cousin. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 11:26:07 PM
Satsuma
OK. So there is a great chance that the Aun't business is not the "tree cutting operation" that was discussed by AH and Cobra as the one they were referring to is apparently known to be in Crescent City.
Thank you JNGA.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 11:26:58 PM
Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   


Instrument: 415749   Trans Code: MTG - MORTGAGE
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 22,000.00   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
BELCHER ERIC   HAGEMAN LEO J
BELCHER ERIC W   HAGEMAN RENATE
BELCHER KATRINA   


Instrument: 56887   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 482   File Date: 03-20-1986
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: LTS 11&12 DUNNS CREEK SEC 2ND ADD ST JOH

From   To
BELCHER LONNIE   SPURLOCK GEORGE D
BELCHER MELSTER   SPURLOCK JUDITH I
no record for instr 56887



Heart you are really great at digging this stuff up.
Thank you very much for taking the time and getting this information for all of us to peruse.


If only I could find Haleigh and bring her to a safe place. Then it will be a good thing Patricia.  Thank you!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 18, 2009, 11:27:32 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Yes, JNGA ~  Another possibility.....which may just turn out to be a .....probability.....or truth.

I was surprised not to see one of Misty's SIL's as a witness for her.

Well, you never maybe Mrs. Whitmore is her Aunt..  Lets see, if Amber and Crystal are cousins, and Crystal and ron are cousins, maybe ron and Amber are cousins too.. Gosh, if ron gets rid of short elevator and then gets with her cousin, with that make Amber and Crystal cousins of short elevator and her cousin. 
OMG! I seriously about sprayed my screen with cream soda! LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 11:27:34 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Yes, JNGA ~  Another possibility.....which may just turn out to be a .....probability.....or truth.

I was surprised not to see one of Misty's SIL's as a witness for her.

That is interesting Misty seems to be really close to her SIL's .... did they attend the wedding, does anyone know?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 18, 2009, 11:29:56 PM
Ok I guessing KB would be a little sis to TN because of their ages 43 and 49  also add a possible TN reletive to the mix if not already known  John c neves  all this based on people search results
http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=teresa&qmi=&qn=neves&qs=FL&trackit=74



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 11:29:58 PM
Well, you never maybe Mrs. Whitmore is her Aunt..  Lets see, if Amber and Crystal are cousins, and Crystal and ron are cousins, maybe ron and Amber are cousins too.. Gosh, if ron gets rid of short elevator and then gets with her cousin, with that make Amber and Crystal cousins of short elevator and her cousin. 

 ::MonkeyDevil::  This is just crazy!  ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 18, 2009, 11:31:39 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 

I got the ants ready.. just in case.
Hey Mlee where did you get those ants??  Hopefully they are the ones from my house..lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 11:33:06 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Yes, JNGA ~  Another possibility.....which may just turn out to be a .....probability.....or truth.

I was surprised not to see one of Misty's SIL's as a witness for her.

That is interesting Misty seems to be really close to her SIL's .... did they attend the wedding, does anyone know?

I'm really sorry Maven, but this was a cummings wedding and they don't allow outsiders, that aren't cousins yet..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 11:33:31 PM
If only I could find Haleigh and bring her to a safe place. Then it will be a good thing Patricia.  Thank you!

Wouldn't it be great if we could type Haleigh into a search engine and actually find her? What's funny is I know more about Putnam County and it's repeat offenders, and it's online document inquiry etc. than I do my own town!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 18, 2009, 11:41:25 PM
So it sounds as Katrina (was maiden name Sykes - Is this Annette's daughter by chance) married a Belcher, and became Crystal's aunt....but if maiden name Sykes, also aunt to Ron.



Sounds  like a dual Aunt to me.  Now, does that make them Cousins???

Well, mlee 

 That is one toughie....don't know if I can find the answer to that one, as you see I am still working on ...Larry, Darryl & Darryl...and Dumb & Dumber, then Alvin & The Chipmunks enter the scene. So....you got me!!!!! 


Sorry to make this more confusing, but I'd like to add that if a young TN had a child and that childs father didn't claim it or wasn't there for some reason, then the child would take on the mothers maiden name.  I didn't have a father and from birth until I got married I had my mothers maiden name.  If the age allows then she could be RC sis. Possibly


Yes, JNGA ~  Another possibility.....which may just turn out to be a .....probability.....or truth.

I was surprised not to see one of Misty's SIL's as a witness for her.

That is interesting Misty seems to be really close to her SIL's .... did they attend the wedding, does anyone know?

I'm really sorry Maven, but this was a cummings wedding and they don't allow outsiders, that aren't cousins yet..

LOL  ::MonkeyDevil:: I have never seen such a tangled web of people!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 11:41:41 PM
Heart, I'm starting to believe that if ANYONE can find her, you can!!!  <wink>
Maven, me too sista, me too!!!

I'm seriously lost about all these cousins now.  I tried following ya'll, but I'll admit, I'm not good with cousins and whatnot from my own tree, much less a Satsuma family tree.  hehe.  As for Misty going to see her dad in the hospital, I thought it was Sunday, the day before Haleigh disappeared that WBG saw the last of Misty.  Dropped her off Sunday morning and that was it.  Of course, I knew all of this at one time, and now...?  it's taking tooo damn long for Haleigh to come home!!  :(


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
If only I could find Haleigh and bring her to a safe place. Then it will be a good thing Patricia.  Thank you!

Wouldn't it be great if we could type Haleigh into a search engine and actually find her? What's funny is I know more about Putnam County and it's repeat offenders, and it's online document inquiry etc. than I do my own town!!
ohforcryingoutloud.  I was responding to these two posts above.  <snort>  LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 11:44:56 PM
On another forum it is being said that NayNay's mom's name is Vera, so if that is true, which I have no idea, then I wonder who this woman is?

If Vera Prevatt is nay nay's mom, then according to a search site Ad on Whitepages . com then her mom is possibly 55 years old and possibly has lived in Interlachen, Satsuma, and San mateo


Just search Vera Prevatt Florida on Whitepages.com and the ad should come up.  No phone listed though.


Instrument: 200854641535   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 1182   File Date: 02-06-2008
Consideration: $ 8,500.00   Description: LT 4 BLK 21 RIVER RIDGE SJRE

From   To
BYRD CAROLYN F   PREVATT VERA D
BYRD WILLIAM D   
BYRD WILLIAM D ATTY   

Image Link - Redacted

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 18, 2009, 11:48:11 PM
On another forum it is being said that NayNay's mom's name is Vera, so if that is true, which I have no idea, then I wonder who this woman is?

If Vera Prevatt is nay nay's mom, then according to a search site Ad on Whitepages . com then her mom is possibly 55 years old and possibly has lived in Interlachen, Satsuma, and San mateo


Just search Vera Prevatt Florida on Whitepages.com and the ad should come up.  No phone listed though.


Instrument: 200854641535   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 1182   File Date: 02-06-2008
Consideration: $ 8,500.00   Description: LT 4 BLK 21 RIVER RIDGE SJRE

From   To
BYRD CAROLYN F   PREVATT VERA D
BYRD WILLIAM D   
BYRD WILLIAM D ATTY   

Image Link - Redacted

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

Okay Heart spill it.. which one are they related to the Sheffields, Brooks, Cummings, Coslin's. And you choose all four, I'm going to bed..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 11:48:13 PM
If only I could find Haleigh and bring her to a safe place. Then it will be a good thing Patricia.  Thank you!

Wouldn't it be great if we could type Haleigh into a search engine and actually find her? What's funny is I know more about Putnam County and it's repeat offenders, and it's online document inquiry etc. than I do my own town!!
ohforcryingoutloud.  I was responding to these two posts above.  <snort>  LOL
lol, I feel the same way Maven regarding both of your statements.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 18, 2009, 11:55:42 PM
On another forum it is being said that NayNay's mom's name is Vera, so if that is true, which I have no idea, then I wonder who this woman is?

If Vera Prevatt is nay nay's mom, then according to a search site Ad on Whitepages . com then her mom is possibly 55 years old and possibly has lived in Interlachen, Satsuma, and San mateo


Just search Vera Prevatt Florida on Whitepages.com and the ad should come up.  No phone listed though.


Instrument: 200854641535   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 1182   File Date: 02-06-2008
Consideration: $ 8,500.00   Description: LT 4 BLK 21 RIVER RIDGE SJRE

From   To
BYRD CAROLYN F   PREVATT VERA D
BYRD WILLIAM D   
BYRD WILLIAM D ATTY   

Image Link - Redacted

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

Okay Heart spill it.. which one are they related to the Sheffields, Brooks, Cummings, Coslin's. And you choose all four, I'm going to bed..

Ok mlee, since shortly I will be going  to take my shower and then to bed, I won't say all four, just 3 since I do not think that the Croslin's are Satsuma/Palatka/Putnam born and raised.  They (the Croslins) will be making contributions to the bloodline soup pot in the next couple or perhaps the next generations, since they start out so early.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 18, 2009, 11:56:58 PM

[/quote]

Okay Heart spill it.. which one are they related to the Sheffields, Brooks, Cummings, Coslin's. And you choose all four, I'm going to bed..
[/quote]

ROFLMAO  Girl with cute glasses!  that's not fair, you can't do that!  MUWHAHAHAHAHA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 12:03:55 AM
Genius monkeys.  You are all absolutely incredible at digging this stuff up.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 12:07:30 AM
Heart, I'm starting to believe that if ANYONE can find her, you can!!!  <wink>
Maven, me too sista, me too!!!

I'm seriously lost about all these cousins now.  I tried following ya'll, but I'll admit, I'm not good with cousins and whatnot from my own tree, much less a Satsuma family tree.  hehe.  As for Misty going to see her dad in the hospital, I thought it was Sunday, the day before Haleigh disappeared that WBG saw the last of Misty.  Dropped her off Sunday morning and that was it.  Of course, I knew all of this at one time, and now...?  it's taking tooo damn long for Haleigh to come home!!  :(

I agree Thunder Bunny, its been too damn long.  Haleigh should be safe and sound and all of her love ones should know where she is.

If Haleigh is not brought back soon, I fear that we all won't be able to remember our own names after muddling around in this humongous thicket of family members, friends, associates, drug dealers, prostitutes, jail cell habituals, bail bondsman, sex offenders, leo, private eyes, lawyers,reporters. 

Did I leave anyone/anything out?

What no dogs or cats?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 12:14:51 AM
John c neves  TN's X

http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records.asp

on at the link just click search


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 12:24:44 AM
John c neves  TN's X

http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records.asp

on at the link just click search

Thanks for the link JNGA!

Nite, nite all  (Monkeys and guest)!

Prayers for pretty little Haleigh's safe return tonight, tomorrow!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 12:27:20 AM
Trying to catch up....looks like monkeys are having a good time tonite..... ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 12:28:59 AM
John c neves  TN's X

http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records.asp

on at the link just click search

Mostly traffic offenses but a spouse abuse also I'm not sure, but It could have been against TN

Edit: fix typo per JNGA


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 12:30:18 AM
sorry that would be spouse abuse  lol, you can tell it's getting late   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 12:35:41 AM
Ok it was against TN, it's the 1993 offense, he filed for divorce in 2007 and married another woman a couple of months later.  I wonder if he could have still had bad feelings toward her or if they got along good? Does anybody know when they got married?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 12:40:53 AM
This is the woman he married a couple of months after he divorced TN
http://www.myspace.com/nodjya
it says she is moving, Last log in May 4th 2009
Somebody get a screen shot of that, Brandi!, where are you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 12:48:50 AM
This is the woman he married a couple of months after he divorced TN
http://www.myspace.com/nodjya
it says she is moving, Last log in May 4th 2009
Somebody get a screen shot of that, Brandi!, where are you?
I got a shot of it darlin', let me see if I can figure out how to post it here.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 12:50:12 AM
This is the woman he married a couple of months after he divorced TN
http://www.myspace.com/nodjya
it says she is moving, Last log in May 4th 2009
Somebody get a screen shot of that, Brandi!, where are you?

She looks younger than TN ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 19, 2009, 12:54:35 AM
This is the woman he married a couple of months after he divorced TN
http://www.myspace.com/nodjya
it says she is moving, Last log in May 4th 2009
Somebody get a screen shot of that, Brandi!, where are you?

I'm so cunfused as to who these people are but here ya go  ::MonkeyHaHa::

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv267/Maven2379/forjnga.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 12:54:49 AM
I wonder if TN has a boyfriend ????....I don't remember seeing anyone with her in any of the photos etc....?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 12:55:34 AM
can't get page over here...but here's the picture.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 12:57:29 AM
can't get page over here...but here's the picture.

Thank you Thunder Bunny!....good work.... ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 01:00:40 AM
Thank you, but MAVEN got the whole page!  (you're gonna have to tell me how you do that!)   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 01:05:52 AM
Thanks Sweet Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance::  Ok so if he and neves divorced in 2007 then haleigh should have been about 3 or 4 right? I wonder if she called him grandpa and if he got attached to her as his granddaughter?  I also wonder why they are moving and if he is still with this wife.  I commented on Arts site asking if He, Cobra, or LE has checked him out.  May be nothing but you never know.  I hope they are checking everybody with ties to these families out. ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 19, 2009, 01:06:22 AM
Thank you, but MAVEN got the whole page!  (you're gonna have to tell me how you do that!)   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

click print screen/SysRq key, then paste it into paint, save and voila, and if you have Vista (which I do and was cursing the other day) you can use the Snipping Tool.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 01:09:33 AM
Thank you, but MAVEN got the whole page!  (you're gonna have to tell me how you do that!)   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

click print screen/SysRq key, then paste it into paint, save and voila, and if you have Vista (which I do and was cursing the other day) you can use the Snipping Tool.

Thanks Maven!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 01:11:58 AM
Well monkeys I think I am going to bed now.....have a good night!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 19, 2009, 01:17:29 AM
Thanks Sweet Monkeys!  ::MonkeyDance::  Ok so if he and neves divorced in 2007 then haleigh should have been about 3 or 4 right? I wonder if she called him grandpa and if he got attached to her as his granddaughter?  I also wonder why they are moving and if he is still with this wife.  I commented on Arts site asking if He, Cobra, or LE has checked him out.  May be nothing but you never know.  I hope they are checking everybody with ties to these families out. ::MonkeyAngel::

anything is possible, I hope LE has checked out anyone that has come in contact with Haleigh, and it certainly couldn't hurt at this point. She's been gone for so long, she needs to be found.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 19, 2009, 01:23:13 AM
Thank you, but MAVEN got the whole page!  (you're gonna have to tell me how you do that!)   ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink:: ::MonkeyWink::

click print screen/SysRq key, then paste it into paint, save and voila, and if you have Vista (which I do and was cursing the other day) you can use the Snipping Tool.

Thanks Maven!!!

your welcome ..... wanted to add if you press alt and print screen together it only takes a picture of the window you are looking at.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 01:29:55 AM
ok looking through more marriage records and found that in 2007 kristina marie sykes married Charles Leonard Myles.  Isn't ronalds middle name Lemyles? Hmmmm.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=67666823


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:45:03 AM
ok looking through more marriage records and found that in 2007 kristina marie sykes married Charles Leonard Myles.  Isn't ronalds middle name Lemyles? Hmmmm.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=67666823
After reading this post.....
This is me------>>>>> ::MonkeyEek:: <<<<<------
(am slowly backing away from the screen now)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Maven on May 19, 2009, 01:54:50 AM
ok looking through more marriage records and found that in 2007 kristina marie sykes married Charles Leonard Myles.  Isn't ronalds middle name Lemyles? Hmmmm.
http://lakecountyclerk.org/online_court_records_detail.asp?case_id=67666823
After reading this post.....
This is me------>>>>> ::MonkeyEek:: <<<<<------
(am slowly backing away from the screen now)

 ::MonkeyLaugh::   ::MonkeyDevil::  I hear ya!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 01:55:07 AM
LOL  ::MonkeyLaugh::  At this point I think I am confusing myself...I think it's time for bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::   Good night Monkeys and Monkey Guests  :smt039


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 02:02:27 AM
LOL  ::MonkeyLaugh::  At this point I think I am confusing myself...I think it's time for bed  ::MonkeyHaHa::   Good night Monkeys and Monkey Guests  :smt039
G-night JNGA.
I don't think you are confusing yourself though...I agree it's a good idea to call it a night.
Bye Monkeys and Guests.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 07:08:16 AM
This is the woman he married a couple of months after he divorced TN
http://www.myspace.com/nodjya
it says she is moving, Last log in May 4th 2009
Somebody get a screen shot of that, Brandi!, where are you?
I got a shot of it darlin', let me see if I can figure out how to post it here.


And who say's Monkeys can't rule the world... You guys were great last night..
you know the old saying.. about being replaced.. at least half our age..  I guess TN was replaced.  Since, I have not searched on TN, thought makes me rather shudder..  Is the guy she living with her current husband or an old one?  You know that guy who jumped forward when Geraldo was interviewing.. And said "You need to leave now".  And then what about ron's real dad.. the missing Link, I mean, the missing Cummings.  Anyone, have anything on him?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:01:55 AM
Good morning Monkeys and all Guests!



Family won't stop searching

(http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GS&Date=20090519&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=905191015&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=600&border=0)

Don Knop prepares to hang a banner of Haleigh Cummings outside the Haleigh Bug Center near Satsuma on Wednesday. Knop has been volunteering at the center, serving as the facility's manager and director.


By Lise Fisher

Published: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, May 18, 2009 at 11:32 p.m.

The father of a missing Satsuma girl made a video plea last week asking people not to forget his daughter.

"Don't give up. It's been a long time, but she's still out there somewhere. And the one tip that you think might be nothing might be the one that brings her home, and we still need her to come home," Ronald Cummings said in a short video posted on the Web site www.findhaleighnow.com.

"Haleigh, if you're watching, baby, I love you, and we're still looking for you," he said.

More than three months since Haleigh Cummings was last seen, the same message of persistence and hope was voiced at the Haleigh Bug Center. The purple office building next to U.S. 17 in Putnam County is dotted with faux butterflies and features a banner with the child's picture.

"It's to keep Haleigh's face out there as much as possible," Don Knop said before hanging the banner. Knop has been helping at the center, acting as needed as a manager, director and volunteer.

The single-story office collects donations to aid in the search for "Haleigh Bug," as her dad calls her, and offers a tip line, as does the Web site www.haleighbug.com.

Until recently, the office also had been a place where the girl's mother, Crystal Sheffield, could stay and remain near the location where her child was last seen.

Sheffield lives in Baker County and traveled back and forth between the two counties until Knop and her attorney, Kim Picazio, said she was told to get some rest.

Sheffield has had seizures, including one while she was driving and another at the center where she fell and hit her head, Picazio and law enforcement said. Doctors have not been able to determine a cause, said Picazio, who indicated stress might be a factor.

But the news Haleigh's neighbors want isn't from the families, but from investigators, who have remained quiet about the case except to say they still are searching.

Putnam County Sheriff's Capt. Dick Schauland stressed that if the agency had information that would lead to the girl's safe return, investigators would release it regardless of the impact on the case.

For now, however, he said the agency continues to follow up leads and re-interview people close to Haleigh depending on what new information comes forward. About 200 to 300 interviews have been conducted in the case, he said, with some people interviewed as many as 10 times.

"At this point, I would have to tell you we don't know where Haleigh is, and we don't know what has happened to her. Nobody has been named as a suspect. Nobody has been disqualified," Schauland said. "It is a mystery. It really is."

The Sheriff's Office has had more than 4,000 leads, with tips still coming in - but not at the furious pace as at the beginning of the investigation, and no recent reports that anyone has seen Haleigh, Schauland said.

Detective Peggy Cone now is the lead investigator, Schauland said.

The law enforcement agency estimated it had spent about $66,000 on 2,279 hours of overtime in the search.

Schauland and Picazio both said there is an ongoing investigation involving Haleigh and the Florida Department of Children and Families. Picazio said the investigation, prompted from various sources throughout the community, involves Ronald Cummings, who had custody of Haleigh at the time of her disappearance.

Schauland wouldn't confirm the subject of the DCF investigation.

One of the neighbors who lives near the home where Haleigh was last seen says he thinks the Sheriff's Office knows more than it's saying.

"When they get the puzzle all together, the public will know about it. The law has its privilege of keeping things to itself," said James Batchelor, 88.

Looking out at the neighborhood from his front porch, Batchelor said things are quieter. The tents and vehicles associated with the search for Haleigh have mostly left.

Another neighbor, however, said Haleigh's disappearance followed by the concentration of police, onlookers and news media was too much. Asking not to be named, she said she and her husband are trying to sell their home.

The woman said she doesn't feel safe anymore and that living in a neighborhood frequented by law enforcement wasn't her idea of moving away from the big-city experience in Orlando.

Batchelor said he believes the case will be solved.

"I hope to God she will," he said when asked if he thought Haleigh could be recovered safe. "I believe it will be solved. I hope so because that little angel didn't deserve what happened to her."

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090519/ARTICLES/905191015/1002/news?Title=Family-won-t-stop-searching


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:17:54 AM
This is the woman he married a couple of months after he divorced TN
http://www.myspace.com/nodjya
it says she is moving, Last log in May 4th 2009
Somebody get a screen shot of that, Brandi!, where are you?
I got a shot of it darlin', let me see if I can figure out how to post it here.


And who say's Monkeys can't rule the world... You guys were great last night..
you know the old saying.. about being replaced.. at least half our age..  I guess TN was replaced.  Since, I have not searched on TN, thought makes me rather shudder..  Is the guy she living with her current husband or an old one?  You know that guy who jumped forward when Geraldo was interviewing.. And said "You need to leave now".  And then what about ron's real dad.. the missing Link, I mean, the missing Cummings.  Anyone, have anything on him?

that was Ron's real dad who told Geraldo that he needed to leave now...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:22:39 AM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:29:33 AM
#232  Ronda Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

Art,

Do you know if Crystal current in her child support payments? Was the Motion for Contempt filed against her for which she was to go to court on the day after Haleigh went missing for failure to pay child support dismissed?

Do you know why she wasn’t paying her child support?

Do you know if she ever took Junior to the Doctor to check on his heart murmur?

What were the remarks Chad Griffis had on his My Space page about Haleigh and Junior before Haleigh went missing?

#237  Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:09 am

Ronda==According to what PDM told me, they gave him a chance to contact them if he intended to come back and he never did. Don’t think he does.

Crystal not working yet, not supposed to drive til they find what caused seizures, likely stress. Last I heard, with Chad in Baker County…



234#  Ronda Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

Will Mr. Santos be willing to take a lie detector test?

Has Mr. Santos went to the POLICE with his accusations? I mean saying it to a reporter is one thing but being under oath in front of Law Enforcement is another.

Can’t wait to meet all of these “sources”. Will we?

#236  Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:07 am

Ronda–

Santos has been interviewed by police investigators and department of children and families. Reread the story. He’s as credible as they get.
Spoke with two others at bus stop who confirm it.
What do you mean by saying, “Can’t wait to meet all these sources?”
Three sets of parents also told cops it was Misty, not Ron or Teresa who picked up Haleigh.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:41:31 AM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   


Instrument: 415749   Trans Code: MTG - MORTGAGE
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 22,000.00   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
BELCHER ERIC   HAGEMAN LEO J
BELCHER ERIC W   HAGEMAN RENATE
BELCHER KATRINA   


Instrument: 56887   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 482   File Date: 03-20-1986
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: LTS 11&12 DUNNS CREEK SEC 2ND ADD ST JOH

From   To
BELCHER LONNIE   SPURLOCK GEORGE D
BELCHER MELSTER   SPURLOCK JUDITH I
no record for instr 56887


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:44:22 AM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Instrument: 415748   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 37,275.36   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
SYKES ANNETTE   BELCHER ERIC
SYKES ANNETTE ATTY   BELCHER KATRINA
SYKES MYLES K   


Instrument: 415749   Trans Code: MTG - MORTGAGE
Book: 860   File Date: 06-22-2001
Consideration: $ 22,000.00   Description: LT 1 BLK 3 UN 2 CITRUS LAKES

From   To
BELCHER ERIC   HAGEMAN LEO J
BELCHER ERIC W   HAGEMAN RENATE
BELCHER KATRINA   


Instrument: 56887   Trans Code: D - DEED
Book: 482   File Date: 03-20-1986
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: LTS 11&12 DUNNS CREEK SEC 2ND ADD ST JOH

From   To
BELCHER LONNIE   SPURLOCK GEORGE D
BELCHER MELSTER   SPURLOCK JUDITH I
no record for instr 56887

LOL...Detective Heart....LOL...
Wyks needs to update her list over there right?  She won't be able to keep up with you and all your digging up more characters... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 08:44:59 AM
All New Monkey's here is the compliled listing of Family members..  A Number of Monkeys worked on the list and it is has a number of pages.. I am sure that as time goes back the list will grow....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:45:05 AM
Sorry i got into your quote there Heart...that's what I get for trying to hurry!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 08:47:25 AM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Heart, I am searching for Grandpa Sykes Obituary now, it will list all of their children, and grandchildren.. Will post it as soon as I find it.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:47:40 AM
All New Monkey's here is the compliled listing of Family members..  A Number of Monkeys worked on the list and it is has a number of pages.. I am sure that as time goes back the list will grow....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2

oh, thanks for correcting me...yes, a number of monkeys have worked on the list...Wyks stands out in my mind as she compiled the majority of it...But credit to all who contributed...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 09:24:25 AM
Sorry i got into your quote there Heart...that's what I get for trying to hurry!

Good morning cookie!

Still no word from Brandi?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 09:30:13 AM
Sorry i got into your quote there Heart...that's what I get for trying to hurry!

Good morning cookie!

Still no word from Brandi?

hi hon...
actually yes, I did hear from Brandi...
she will be back in after a short break...catching up on a few things...
BBL... going to get dear grand daughter for a few hours....xxxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 09:39:58 AM
Good Morning, so Vera is NayNay's grandma and not her mom. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 10:45:02 AM
All New Monkey's here is the compliled listing of Family members..  A Number of Monkeys worked on the list and it is has a number of pages.. I am sure that as time goes back the list will grow....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2
After looking at the list (thank you for the link Mlee, aka "girl in cute glasses" by me)  I feel EVER so much better for not remembering every single detail.  I was starting to think I was going daft. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 10:47:09 AM
Cookie?  Someone?  I need a Haleigh picture!  While the lovely Brandi is out of pocket, can someone post of one of her beautiful pieces??  It's been too long....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 11:00:59 AM
And yet another post from Rainy on Arts site.  Things that make you go hmmmm....
~~~~~~~~~~~~
#  Rose Red Says:
May 18th, 2009 at 2:57 am

ART,

For the 3rd time ..

When Texas EquuSearch was here they made comments that the neighbors had said to them that it was a well known that Misty was having sexual relations with Rons uncle ..

Do you have any confirmation on whether it was rumor or not ?..

& What uncle were they referring to ?..

I am willing to continue posting the same comment until you get tired of seeing it & ANSWER IT !!
# Perry Says:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 12:09:50 PM
Looks like I'm posting by myself.   ::MonkeyWink::
Sorry about the four in a row everyone.
Just watched the Geraldo/Ronald Cummings interview again.
<it's been a while>
Looking at it now, with fresh eyes, I see Ronald starting to get upset at the questions, I see him calming down and answering Geraldo, (still frustrated, but doing ok) and then I see Grandma Neves and the big man with his arms crossed starting the trouble.  I see the whole family swooping in to protect Ronald from Geraldo and kicking Geraldo out.  Didn't realize Ronald was just standing there while everyone around him was having a cow about Geraldo.  And he talked to Haleigh at the end, so I guess he wasnt that upset about the questions or he would have walked away, right?
Gosh, I wish they'd find this little girl.  Watched a couple of Haleigh videos, so so so sad. 
What did you smart monkeys decide about family in Texas? 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 12:47:18 PM
Looks like I'm posting by myself.   ::MonkeyWink::
Sorry about the four in a row everyone.
Just watched the Geraldo/Ronald Cummings interview again.
<it's been a while>
Looking at it now, with fresh eyes, I see Ronald starting to get upset at the questions, I see him calming down and answering Geraldo, (still frustrated, but doing ok) and then I see Grandma Neves and the big man with his arms crossed starting the trouble.  I see the whole family swooping in to protect Ronald from Geraldo and kicking Geraldo out.  Didn't realize Ronald was just standing there while everyone around him was having a cow about Geraldo.  And he talked to Haleigh at the end, so I guess he wasnt that upset about the questions or he would have walked away, right?
Gosh, I wish they'd find this little girl.  Watched a couple of Haleigh videos, so so so sad. 
What did you smart monkeys decide about family in Texas? 

Hi Thunder! I am not good at posting pictures or else I would do one for you of Haleigh...darling girl isn't she?

I think in regards to the Geraldo interview...Ron was sortof blindsided...he thought that Geraldo was there to get the word out about Haleigh missing and instead it turned into a bashing of Ron, the missing child's father... on national tv....I think that his relatives were rallying around him because of the appalling way that Geraldo acted to Ron, again, the father of a missing child who until we know for sure,has not been proven guilty of any of the things that he has been accused of....jmo....but what we do know is that his daughter is still a missing child...sad sad sad...all just my opinion on the Geraldo interview....If Geraldo had been "hired" by Ron's attorneys, we might have seen some Crystal bashing by him, which wouldn't be right either in my eyes...she is the mother of this missing child....
xxxxx
Misty is another matter....she knows more than she is saying and needs to tell the truth! She was the last one to see Haleigh...she needs to be waterboarded <<not really<< till she tells what she knows, no matter who it may implicate...
Peace ....keep up the good work and the good posts there Thunder!




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:05:29 PM
This is the best I can do for A  picture Thunder.........God Bless Haleigh!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:06:59 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:08:16 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing55.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Thought I'd reply and bring this post over here to share.
Thanks Nut44x4.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:10:46 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!
LOL! I took a safer route and brought over the one Brandi had made earlier.
(That's ok HH I have zero idea how to post pics in the forums other than re-posting them.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:11:40 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!
LOL! I took a safer route and brought over the one Brandi had made earlier.
(That's ok HH I have zero idea how to post pics in the forums other than re-posting them.)
well at least you can repost them, I blow up the forum everytime I try!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:12:56 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!
LOL! I took a safer route and brought over the one Brandi had made earlier.
(That's ok HH I have zero idea how to post pics in the forums other than re-posting them.)
well at least you can repost them, I blow up the forum everytime I try!!

My husband said you have to resize them first. He said a 300 would be ok. (I am clueless.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:14:25 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!
LOL! I took a safer route and brought over the one Brandi had made earlier.
(That's ok HH I have zero idea how to post pics in the forums other than re-posting them.)
well at least you can repost them, I blow up the forum everytime I try!!

My husband said you have to resize them first. He said a 300 would be ok. (I am clueless.)
Yea my son said the same thing, but even when I try to resize them, I still mess up, oh well Maybe Ill ake him sit down and show me step by step one day!!!!LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:15:49 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!
LOL! I took a safer route and brought over the one Brandi had made earlier.
(That's ok HH I have zero idea how to post pics in the forums other than re-posting them.)
well at least you can repost them, I blow up the forum everytime I try!!

My husband said you have to resize them first. He said a 300 would be ok. (I am clueless.)
Yea my son said the same thing, but even when I try to resize them, I still mess up, oh well Maybe Ill ake him sit down and show me step by step one day!!!!LOL
Thank you for trying though sweetie!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 01:17:50 PM
Thanks HH, at least you know how to post a pic, I don't even know how to. ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:19:08 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:21:12 PM
Thanks HH, at least you know how to post a pic, I don't even know how to. ::MonkeyConfused::
well, Hello Rose,  how are you today,  Its cold here in Flroida, its kinda scary, I have never seen it below 70 degrees this time of year, very odd......I only know how to post what I do because my son showed me how to get that much done, undoubtly Im not a good learner..lol............oh and I cant get Art Harris site to show up, anybody else having problems?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:21:14 PM
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo242/Brandi-Monkey/HaleighCummings/missing55.png)

Keep Hope Alive for Haleigh

Thought I'd reply and bring this post over here to share.
Thanks Nut44x4.

~SPEAK UP FOR LITTLE HALEIGH~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:24:07 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:25:11 PM
Thanks HH, at least you know how to post a pic, I don't even know how to. ::MonkeyConfused::
well, Hello Rose,  how are you today,  Its cold here in Flroida, its kinda scary, I have never seen it below 70 degrees this time of year, very odd......I only know how to post what I do because my son showed me how to get that much done, undoubtly Im not a good learner..lol............oh and I cant get Art Harris site to show up, anybody else having problems?
If you are running windows...click "start" then chose "run" type in CMD (black screen should appear) type in ipconfig/flushdns wait a few minutes then close that screen. Open your internet options and then clear your history/cookies ect...
(advice from my hunny.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 19, 2009, 01:25:20 PM
No art harris for me now either . I think that big picture of yours broke the internet  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 01:25:57 PM
Thanks HH, at least you know how to post a pic, I don't even know how to. ::MonkeyConfused::
well, Hello Rose,  how are you today,  Its cold here in Flroida, its kinda scary, I have never seen it below 70 degrees this time of year, very odd......I only know how to post what I do because my son showed me how to get that much done, undoubtly Im not a good learner..lol............oh and I cant get Art Harris site to show up, anybody else having problems?
How are you? My daughter has to go over things with me all the time, I get confused with computer things.  ::MonkeyConfused:: I'll go check to see if Art's site is up.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 01:28:29 PM
Nothing past May 14th. So if there is something more current I don't see it. Maybe Art is having trouble on his site?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:30:06 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!
I understand how you are feeling but we are here for Haleigh right? We can't get comfortable thinking it's ok to get that close to the case. In here online we are investigating the case and yes it it emotionally charged. I'll bet it is even worse for the LE and others investigating these cases BUT what good would you be to us, this case and even more ~Haleigh~ if you let this case get so personal that you landed in jail?
Don't go HH if you are that concerned about how you might want to do something. Haleigh needs you. (We do too but Haleigh is why we are all here.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:31:55 PM
No art harris for me now either . I think that big picture of yours broke the internet  ::MonkeyHaHa::
MuaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(You could be right though  ::MonkeyTongue:: )


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 01:32:30 PM
Ok.  So now I'm mad cause I'm crying cause HH, you posted that beautiful picture of this beautiful little girl in the window at HaleighBug Center and her little face filled up my entire screen thru the window...and I see all these people begging for someone to come forward, and I'm still crying and I don't know why the HELL someone doesn't just TELL WHAT THEY KNOW!!  Call the tip line, call anonymously, (sp. but I dont' care) tell someone to tell, anything....please.  FIND THIS LITTLE GIRL.  Enough is enough. I don't understand how in the world Misty could keep her mouth shut..(give me ten minutes with her, please, oh please oh please, and if I didn't get something out her, I'd end up choking her, and no, I don't KNOW that she knows something, but it's what I think)  why in the world someone would be more concerned for themselves than telling what they know about a CHILD.  THAT IS MISSING.  And I'm praying to Gawd that this little girl is with family somewhere....Maybe it was the videos I watched earlier, I don't know....but I'm screaming inside that we, people that have never even met this child can be so concerned and I'm seeing NOTHING from the parents.  I swear to you I'd be on the TV every single day even if I had to stand on a corner in a chicken suit yelling in a megaphone to find my daughter.  Oh my gosh.  Sorry for the vent.  Gonna go get ready for work and just walk away right now.  Thank you guys for doing what you doing.  Thank you Cobra, for being there and looking for Haleigh.
Please let her come home.  Please just drop her somewhere safe and drive away.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 19, 2009, 01:38:02 PM
P.S.  Arts site is up now.  Whole bunch has been posted since I checked this morning.  And now Im going.  Have a great day Monkeys, doing what you do best....putting all these pieces together.  Maybe when I get off at 1 a.m. or so I'll hear some good news.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 01:38:27 PM
No art harris for me now either . I think that big picture of yours broke the internet  ::MonkeyHaHa::
well heck,   dont tell Art I did it, he might start a new forum with info on how to pay me back!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 01:39:20 PM
P.S.  Arts site is up now.  Whole bunch has been posted since I checked this morning.  And now Im going.  Have a great day Monkeys, doing what you do best....putting all these pieces together.  Maybe when I get off at 1 a.m. or so I'll hear some good news.
Thanks, and you have a great day  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 01:39:53 PM
No art harris for me now either . I think that big picture of yours broke the internet  ::MonkeyHaHa::
well heck,   dont tell Art I did it, he might start a new forum with info on how to pay me back!!!

HA HA HA (I could just imagine!) LMBO!
(Going to check Art's site BB in a few.)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
Ok.  So now I'm mad cause I'm crying cause HH, you posted that beautiful picture of this beautiful little girl in the window at HaleighBug Center and her little face filled up my entire screen thru the window...and I see all these people begging for someone to come forward, and I'm still crying and I don't know why the HELL someone doesn't just TELL WHAT THEY KNOW!!  Call the tip line, call anonymously, (sp. but I dont' care) tell someone to tell, anything....please.  FIND THIS LITTLE GIRL.  Enough is enough. I don't understand how in the world Misty could keep her mouth shut..(give me ten minutes with her, please, oh please oh please, and if I didn't get something out her, I'd end up choking her, and no, I don't KNOW that she knows something, but it's what I think)  why in the world someone would be more concerned for themselves than telling what they know about a CHILD.  THAT IS MISSING.  And I'm praying to Gawd that this little girl is with family somewhere....Maybe it was the videos I watched earlier, I don't know....but I'm screaming inside that we, people that have never even met this child can be so concerned and I'm seeing NOTHING from the parents.  I swear to you I'd be on the TV every single day even if I had to stand on a corner in a chicken suit yelling in a megaphone to find my daughter.  Oh my gosh.  Sorry for the vent.  Gonna go get ready for work and just walk away right now.  Thank you guys for doing what you doing.  Thank you Cobra, for being there and looking for Haleigh.
Please let her come home.  Please just drop her somewhere safe and drive away.

Searching For Haleigh Cummings (Video)

Published: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 11:07 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 11:07 a.m.

The search for Haleigh Cummings, a five-year-old from Satsuma, continues.



http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090519/VIDEO/905192000/1002/NEWS01?Title=Searching-For-Haleigh-Cummings



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Ok.  So now I'm mad cause I'm crying cause HH, you posted that beautiful picture of this beautiful little girl in the window at HaleighBug Center and her little face filled up my entire screen thru the window...and I see all these people begging for someone to come forward, and I'm still crying and I don't know why the HELL someone doesn't just TELL WHAT THEY KNOW!!  Call the tip line, call anonymously, (sp. but I dont' care) tell someone to tell, anything....please.  FIND THIS LITTLE GIRL.  Enough is enough. I don't understand how in the world Misty could keep her mouth shut..(give me ten minutes with her, please, oh please oh please, and if I didn't get something out her, I'd end up choking her, and no, I don't KNOW that she knows something, but it's what I think)  why in the world someone would be more concerned for themselves than telling what they know about a CHILD.  THAT IS MISSING.  And I'm praying to Gawd that this little girl is with family somewhere....Maybe it was the videos I watched earlier, I don't know....but I'm screaming inside that we, people that have never even met this child can be so concerned and I'm seeing NOTHING from the parents.  I swear to you I'd be on the TV every single day even if I had to stand on a corner in a chicken suit yelling in a megaphone to find my daughter.  Oh my gosh.  Sorry for the vent.  Gonna go get ready for work and just walk away right now.  Thank you guys for doing what you doing.  Thank you Cobra, for being there and looking for Haleigh.
Please let her come home.  Please just drop her somewhere safe and drive away.

Searching For Haleigh Cummings (Video)

Published: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 11:07 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 11:07 a.m.

The search for Haleigh Cummings, a five-year-old from Satsuma, continues.



http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090519/VIDEO/905192000/1002/NEWS01?Title=Searching-For-Haleigh-Cummings



Thanks Heart. I watched the video and I have come to the conclusion that we just need to dig even deeper. Even past the ugly things and things that people maybe tend to overlook or dismiss, for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 02:01:28 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!
I understand how you are feeling but we are here for Haleigh right? We can't get comfortable thinking it's ok to get that close to the case. In here online we are investigating the case and yes it it emotionally charged. I'll bet it is even worse for the LE and others investigating these cases BUT what good would you be to us, this case and even more ~Haleigh~ if you let this case get so personal that you landed in jail?
Don't go HH if you are that concerned about how you might want to do something. Haleigh needs you. (We do too but Haleigh is why we are all here.)
Im not gonna get in trouble, Im just gonna do what I have to do and ignore the ones that deserve ignoring, just like she is ignoring the LE when all they want is a timeline to help find the child she let get lost......her thoughts and guilt will be inside her for a long time and  they will do more harm to her the longer this goes on then anybody else could ever do!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 02:04:50 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!
I understand how you are feeling but we are here for Haleigh right? We can't get comfortable thinking it's ok to get that close to the case. In here online we are investigating the case and yes it it emotionally charged. I'll bet it is even worse for the LE and others investigating these cases BUT what good would you be to us, this case and even more ~Haleigh~ if you let this case get so personal that you landed in jail?
Don't go HH if you are that concerned about how you might want to do something. Haleigh needs you. (We do too but Haleigh is why we are all here.)
Im not gonna get in trouble, Im just gonna do what I have to do and ignore the ones that deserve ignoring, just like she is ignoring the LE when all they want is a timeline to help find the child she let get lost......her thoughts and guilt will be inside her for a long time and  they will do more harm to her the longer this goes on then anybody else could ever do!!

That's right HH. And thank you for responding to me...I was wondering there for a minute if we were going to have to start up "get HH out of jail" donation fund.
Hee hee. (I gotcherback girl!)
LOL!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 02:07:56 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!
I understand how you are feeling but we are here for Haleigh right? We can't get comfortable thinking it's ok to get that close to the case. In here online we are investigating the case and yes it it emotionally charged. I'll bet it is even worse for the LE and others investigating these cases BUT what good would you be to us, this case and even more ~Haleigh~ if you let this case get so personal that you landed in jail?
Don't go HH if you are that concerned about how you might want to do something. Haleigh needs you. (We do too but Haleigh is why we are all here.)
Im not gonna get in trouble, Im just gonna do what I have to do and ignore the ones that deserve ignoring, just like she is ignoring the LE when all they want is a timeline to help find the child she let get lost......her thoughts and guilt will be inside her for a long time and  they will do more harm to her the longer this goes on then anybody else could ever do!!

That's right HH. And thank you for responding to me...I was wondering there for a minute if we were going to have to start up "get HH out of jail" donation fund.
Hee hee. (I gotcherback girl!)
LOL!


(I gotcherback girl!) Well we don't have any extra funds but......just sayin.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
Its OK  Patricia, I wouldnt stay in jail long...Ive got friends in Low places if you know what I mean...LOLOLOLOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
IMHO the silence from Misty (although it is deafening) speaks volumnes. It is sending a huge message.
If she wants that message to change then she would be stepping up to the plate as the responsible PARENT (step Parents are Parents too! Trust and believe!). Misty needs to be the most responsible parent of all right now.
She now OWNS that right as a PARENT since she married Ron and she OWES it to Haleigh.
Period.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 19, 2009, 02:23:46 PM
Its OK  Patricia, I wouldnt stay in jail long...Ive got friends in Low places if you know what I mean...LOLOLOLOL
Please don't call Chuck  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 02:32:16 PM
Its OK  Patricia, I wouldnt stay in jail long...Ive got friends in Low places if you know what I mean...LOLOLOLOL
Please don't call Chuck  ::MonkeyNoNo::
Id like to call Chuck a few choice names,  but I certainly wouldnt call him for bond!!!!!   lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 03:38:16 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 03:45:55 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story
well at least he has that much sense, maybe it hits too close to home in reference to Misty!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 03:48:51 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story
well at least he has that much sense, maybe it hits too close to home in reference to Misty!!!!
I can't stand George and Cindy anymore then the next guy, but this too me was just nonsense, what really is the point to saying that? ::MonkeyConfused::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 04:06:28 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

CNN HLN is reporting that Ron Cummings has stated that he does not want George and Cindy Anthony having anything to do with Haleigh's case.  Cummings is reported as saying that the Anthonys have their own agenda. ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 04:10:50 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 04:14:02 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story
That's fine, and that's his business, but what if Crystal and her family do want their help? Granted I wouldn't want their help for anything, but I really would like the real reason that Ron's lawyers had him say this.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story
yep, I think it was  good to show this.....thanks Rose!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 19, 2009, 04:19:55 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 04:21:12 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story
yep, I think it was  good to show this.....thanks Rose!
Your welcome, wonder why now at this point Ron's lawyers had him say that? Maybe because they got so close with Crystal and her mom at the vigil?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 04:22:21 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 04:34:24 PM
This was posted by one of our fine monkeys on the Caylee forum.  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story
yep, I think it was  good to show this.....thanks Rose!
Your welcome, wonder why now at this point Ron's lawyers had him say that? Maybe because they got so close with Crystal and her mom at the vigil?

To me it seems that Ron and his attorney's jumped the gun quite a bit by putting out that statement. I hadn't seen it anywhere that people were drawing inference between the two cases. None.
Odd.
(Me thinks maybe I should draw those inferences now though.)

Regardless what anyone might say about the A's being at that vigil they too are victims of a sick and senseless crime.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 04:39:05 PM
Besides all that...I didn't see or hear Ron protest at all about Mr. Anthony's presence earlier during this investigation when he thought it was in his (Ron's) favor.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 19, 2009, 05:01:45 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: seahorse on May 19, 2009, 05:17:34 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!

If you go to Satsuma, I would go to the beauty salons, hairdressers, always, know what the lastest scoop or  news, that is my opinion.  I would have my nails done at one salon, my hair trimmed at another, my eyebrows waxed at another salon.  I don't think I would ask questions, instead, I would remark that someone looked like Misty, then see if they open up and what they say. Better yet, I would find Crystal Cummings hairdresser if you can and go for a trim there.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 05:21:05 PM
All I know is this is getting rediculous, something should be known by now, someone should have found a clue, someone should have talked, I just dont see how this has gone on for this long without a clue or anything, someone knows where Haleigh is, they have too, she didnt just dissapear into thin air, I just dont see Ronald and Misty being smart enough to hide all clues from LE, I dont see them being smart enough to not open their mouths and not speak of this with someone,  I have been to that home, it is hard to find if you dont know where to look, its not in plain sight, a stranger coming into Satsuma wouldnt even know it was back there without hearing about it from the locals for some reason, if this is and inside job, LE should have already checked all family members and know where each one is no matter how distantly related to them they are,,Something just isnt right, something is very weird with this case, IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
seahorse, WELCOME  Those are good suggestions for HH to do. HH, if you do go to Crystal Cummings hair dresser, please don't ask for a Crystal Cummings hairdo.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 05:24:50 PM
Someone needs to talk today and tell what they know with everything they've got to bring this baby girl home! The silence is deafening!
I appreciate Crystal and her Mother speaking out. I appreciate Ron making the video at his attorney's website. What I don't appreciate is the fact that the person who was supposed to be watching over Haleigh is silent. She married the Father of this beautiful girl so that makes her a step PARENT. MISTY PLEASE SPEAK UP FOR HALEIGH!
you  know,   you hit the nail on the head with that statement........Thats the reason Im kinda leary about my next trip to Satsuma, Im suppose to go look to see if  Ron and Musty are living in a tent in the yard but I am scared I might see Misty and I dont know if I could refrain from slapping her if she gives me one of her ugly looks,   Yall  might be looking up my booking photo next!!!

If you go to Satsuma, I would go to the beauty salons, hairdressers, always, know what the lastest scoop or  news, that is my opinion.  I would have my nails done at one salon, my hair trimmed at another, my eyebrows waxed at another salon.  I don't think I would ask questions, instead, I would remark that someone looked like Misty, then see if they open up and what they say. Better yet, I would find Crystal Cummings hairdresser if you can and go for a trim there.
well, sorry to say but there isnt that many salons in Satsuma and I doubt Misty goes to one very often or anyone else from that family and Im not interested in what one might have to say about Crystal, Ill be talking to her in person, but I do try mingle with the locals and just see what I can hear, this is a very small town and not alot to  do so its either MeMa's or the local Dollar store or a convenient store or places like that!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 05:25:57 PM
seahorse, WELCOME  Those are good suggestions for HH to do. HH, if you do go to Crystal Cummings hair dresser, please don't ask for a Crystal Cummings hairdo.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll::
Uhhh   by the looks of that hairdo, I think that was done out of someones home, at least I hope she didnt spend money for that!!  loL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 05:26:08 PM
The statements by Ron today in my eyes, are spin to make an excuse for the Cummings family not going to the vigil for Haleigh on Sunday night. Or jealousy that Crystal got attention Sunday night. I have no sympathy for George and Cindy, but I did think this was an unnecessary development. ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
seahorse, WELCOME  Those are good suggestions for HH to do. HH, if you do go to Crystal Cummings hair dresser, please don't ask for a Crystal Cummings hairdo.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll::
Uhhh   by the looks of that hairdo, I think that was done out of someones home, at least I hope she didnt spend money for that!!  loL
Or it could be a wig  ::MonkeyEek::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 05:36:48 PM
seahorse, WELCOME  Those are good suggestions for HH to do. HH, if you do go to Crystal Cummings hair dresser, please don't ask for a Crystal Cummings hairdo.  ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyRoll::
Uhhh   by the looks of that hairdo, I think that was done out of someones home, at least I hope she didnt spend money for that!!  loL
Or it could be a wig  ::MonkeyEek::
I hope it was a wig....lol


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 19, 2009, 05:50:22 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!

HH I can resize the pics for you... Just email them to me.. My email can be seen... ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 05:50:33 PM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Heart I was looking in the Palatka daily news archives and I found this.....I don't have a subscription so I could not see the whole thing but it looks like Eric passed away.....just something to add to the record. Wish we could see the whole thing any monkeys have a subscription?

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2004 OBITUARIES
Obituary announcements are paid advertising. Brief announcements are published at no charge. Because of weather conditions, funeral schedules may be subject to change. Please confirm with funeral homes. ERIC WADE BELCHER Eric Wade Belcher, 36, of Cre...
 6.8K - Sep. 7, 2004; scored 166.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 05:55:24 PM
Oh No,..........I give up...........I dont guess I can put up a picture for you Thunder, I tried but I should have known better!

HH I can resize the pics for you... Just email them to me.. My email can be seen... ::MonkeyTongue::
OK  I will sent them in a little while


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 05:57:58 PM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Heart, I am searching for Grandpa Sykes Obituary now, it will list all of their children, and grandchildren.. Will post it as soon as I find it.

Mlee I have been looking for that everwhere....I think that would be a very helpful thing for us to have.....If you have some places to search and just need an extra pair of eyes post a link and I will try to help you.

I did find this over at topix so it looks like we are not the only ones who are interested in this obituary...

Quote from poster at topix...

Sykes, Myles Kirby - Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, of Welaka, died Wednesday, January 23, 2002. Masters Funeral Home....
Published in the Florida Times-Union on 1/28/2002

Who lives in Jacksonville, Florida?
We need the Obit for "Myles Kirby Sykes", please?

January 23, 2002, he expired.
We need to research to see who are the family members in his Obit. IMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 06:14:50 PM
looks like gr sykes was a Welfenberg when she married myles 

 SYKES MYLES K;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A

NO GRANTEE INDEXED 07/10/1979 MARRIAGE RECORD ALACHUA 474958 1219/282 1

https://www.myfloridacounty.com/serv/MyFloridaCounty/ORI/Order

married to a Robert Welfenberg?

GEORGIA-PACIFIC CORPORATION;
HUDSON PULP & PATER CORP
WELFENBERG ROBERT W;
WELFENBERG DOROTHY A 10/04/1999 SATISFACTION PUTNAM 372610 804/800 1
    Description: 80-833-CA-J ( View Image )
 
I don't think that is Teresa's dad though ....I have seen other posts that say Teresa was a Squire? If that is true it is kinda scary to look at this....
SQUIRES  DONALD  ROBERT  3/20/1961 M W  08-03179  7/14/2008 6:43:19 PM
SQUIRES  JASON    1/29/1989 M W  08-04379  10/10/2008 1:57:24 AM

http://public.pcso.us/jail/history.aspx

take a look at the photos


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mizjay on May 19, 2009, 06:17:04 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

  Ok, I've got my nanner shield up cause I'm going to spout off 2 cents .........all this time my theory was that a SO did this, BUT if not them my bets were on RC/MC in some form or fashion so what I'm about to say kinda blowsmy mind.

RC's public diss of the Scamthony's tells me a couple of things, first, he sees them to be hypocrites, which they are. Who knows what kind of malarky georgie whispered to him on that first visit, maybe even things like, if ya know something and can make you look bad don't bother to say anything cause LE will use it against you. I'm just sayin maybe.

Second, if RC doesn't in any shape or form want to be identified with people who stand up for the person who killed their grandchild, maybe that means that he really has no idea what happened, he really does believe MC  and wouldn't had married her if he had one suspicion that she was involved.

I for one despise the A's and the horse they rode in on and I've got some real admiration for RC taking a vocal stand against them. Evrybody always says they want people to start calling them out, well, as Gomer Pyle would say, surprise, surprise,  of all people, the big, redneck Ron did it.

Ok, commence the throwing!!!     ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 06:21:34 PM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Heart I was looking in the Palatka daily news archives and I found this.....I don't have a subscription so I could not see the whole thing but it looks like Eric passed away.....just something to add to the record. Wish we could see the whole thing any monkeys have a subscription?

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2004 OBITUARIES
Obituary announcements are paid advertising. Brief announcements are published at no charge. Because of weather conditions, funeral schedules may be subject to change. Please confirm with funeral homes. ERIC WADE BELCHER Eric Wade Belcher, 36, of Cre...
 6.8K - Sep. 7, 2004; scored 166.0

Thanks my2cents for the info.  I will check to see if I can find more.  At the present I am trying to run down info on the Hageman's, which the wife and or ex-wife might be the Rena Whitmore now.  Looks as though the Hagemans and the Belchers had some real estate dealings  a few years ago. It just might be that the tree cutting/landscaping company could be in the Pompano/Como area of town.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 06:25:10 PM
Men charged with aggravated assault
Palatka Daily News Two South Putnam men were arrested Thursday night, accused of threatening another man with guns. Witnesses told police that Jason Squires, 19, was driving erratically around a Fruitland convenience store parking lot, "spinning doug...
 1.2K - Oct. 11, 2008; scored 468.0

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&l=20&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&d1=05-05-2001&d2=05-19-2009&q=squires&o=0



UCN: 542006DR001137FDXXXX
File Date: 2006-08-17 Disposition Date: 2007-09-17
File Type: SEXUAL VIOLENCE - FD26
Judge: A W NICHOLS III   

Plaintiffs
DURRANT STEPHANIE OBO  Defendants
SQUIRES JASON 


Date Docket Description
2006-08-17 001.PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST SEXUAL 

2006-08-17 VIOLENCE 

2006-08-17 002.IDENTIFICATION - DRIVER'S LICENSE 

2006-08-17 003.PCSO INCIDENT REPORT 

2006-08-17 004.TEMPORARY INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

2006-08-17 SEXUAL VIOLENCE - HRG SET FOR 08/30/06 @ 9:00 - EEH 

2006-08-21 005.LETTER FROM E SQUIRES & J SQUIRES TO EEH 

2006-08-24 006.RTN OF SVC FOR JASON SQUIRES SVD 08/17/2006 TEMPORARY 

2006-08-30 007.ORDER EXTENDING INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

2006-08-30 SEXUAL VIOLENCE - HRG SET FOR 10/11/06 @ 9:00 - EEH 

2006-08-30 008.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET PR RESP PR 

2006-09-06 009.RTN OF SVC FOR JASON SQUIRES SVD 09/01/06 ORD EXT 

2006-10-11 010.FAMILY COURT MINUTES PET NP RESP PR 

2006-10-11 011.SECOND ORDER EXTENDING INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST

2006-10-11 SEXUAL VIOLENCE 11/15/06 9:00 EEH 

2006-10-17 012.RTN OF SVC FOR JASON SQUIRES-SVD 10/12/06 

2006-11-09 013.SECOND AMENDED ORDER EXTENDING TEMPORARY INJUNCTION 

2006-11-09 AND/OR PETITION FOR INJUNCTION FOR PROTECTION AGAINST 

2006-11-09 SEXUAL VIOLENCE - HRG SET FOR 12/20/06 @ 9:00 - EEH 

2006-11-16 014.RTN OF SVC FOR JASON SQUIRES SVD 11/14/06 DUE 12/4/06 

2006-12-13 015.CORRESPONDENCE FROM JUVENILE CRIME PREVENTION OFFICE 

2006-12-20 016.FAMILY COURT MINUTES - BOTH PARTIES PRES 

2006-12-20 017.FINAL JUDGMENT FOR PROTECTION - EEH - FL#606253 

2007-08-06 018.MOTION TO MODIFY OR DISSOLVE TEMPORARY OR FINAL 

2007-08-06 JUDGMENT OF INJUNCTION - JASON SQUIRES 

2007-08-09 019.NOTICE OF HEARING/AWN FOR 08/21/07 AT 10:30 

2007-08-21 020.FAMILY COURT MINUTES 

2007-09-17 021.ORDER DISMISSING FINAL JUDGMENT OF INJUNCTION 

2007-09-17 FOR PROTECTION AGAINST SEXUAL VIOLENCE - AWN 

2007-09-17 FL#630877 

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 06:25:47 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

  Ok, I've got my nanner shield up cause I'm going to spout off 2 cents .........all this time my theory was that a SO did this, BUT if not them my bets were on RC/MC in some form or fashion so what I'm about to say kinda blowsmy mind.

RC's public diss of the Scamthony's tells me a couple of things, first, he sees them to be hypocrites, which they are. Who knows what kind of malarky georgie whispered to him on that first visit, maybe even things like, if ya know something and can make you look bad don't bother to say anything cause LE will use it against you. I'm just sayin maybe.

Second, if RC doesn't in any shape or form want to be identified with people who stand up for the person who killed their grandchild, maybe that means that he really has no idea what happened, he really does believe MC  and wouldn't had married her if he had one suspicion that she was involved.

I for one despise the A's and the horse they rode in on and I've got some real admiration for RC taking a vocal stand against them. Evrybody always says they want people to start calling them out, well, as Gomer Pyle would say, surprise, surprise,  of all people, the big, redneck Ron did it.

Ok, commence the throwing!!!     ::MonkeyTongue::

(http://static.open.salon.com/files/applause1234363884.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mizjay on May 19, 2009, 06:29:48 PM

  HEART    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::         


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Cummings Snub Anthonys After Vigil
Parents Say Caylee's Disappearance Not Like Haleigh's

POSTED: 4:45 pm EDT May 19, 2009
UPDATED: 5:12 pm EDT May 19, 2009

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SATSUMA, Fla. -- After a missing children’s rally this past Sunday, the Cummings family no longer welcomes the Anthonys’ involvement in the continuing search efforts for daughter Haleigh.

A caller, who wishes to remain anonymous, told WESH 2 that the missing children's rally was organized by Michelle Bart. Bart was once a spokesperson for the Anthonys.

Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.

The Cummings family said they do not want to be included in the Anthonys’ agenda, saying that Haleigh’s disappearance is in no way similar to the facts relating to the death of Caylee Anthony.

Haleigh Cummings has been missing since early February. She was last seen in her Satsuma home.

Caylee Anthony's remains were found in a wooded area off Suburban Drive last December. Her mother, Casey Anthony, is at the Orange County Jail charged with murder in her daughter's death.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19506509/detail.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 19, 2009, 06:32:26 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: my2cents on May 19, 2009, 06:33:48 PM
Heart could this be her?



UCN: 542000CA000428CAXXXX
File Date: 2000-10-27 Disposition Date: 2001-10-02
File Type: FORECLOSURE - CA16
Judge: WILLIAM A PARSONS   

Plaintiffs
Q I ROBERTS INC
HP FAMILY CREDIT UNION  Defendants
HAGEMAN RENATE
ROY ALLANA M
HAGEMAN LEO J 


Date Docket Description
2000-10-27 001.COMPLAINT FOR FORECLOSURE AND EJECTMENT 

2000-10-27 002.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - ALLANA ROY 

2000-10-27 SUMM RTD 11-27-2000 SVD UNEXECUTED 

2000-10-27 003.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - RENATE HAGEMAN 

2000-10-27 SUMM RTD 11-30-2000 SVD 11-22-2000 DUE 12-12-2000 

2000-10-27 004.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - LEO J. HAGEMAN 

2000-10-27 SUMM RTD 11-30-2000 SVD 11-22-2000 DUE 12-12-2000 

2000-10-27 005.NOTICE OF LIS PENDENS / REC OR BK 838 PG 1643 

2000-11-17 006.ANSWER AND CLAIM TO EXCESS FUNDS (HP FAMILY CREDIT 

2000-11-17 UNION) 

2000-12-05 007.NOTICE OF FILING (PROOF OF SATISFACTION OF SECOND 

2000-12-05 >MORTGAGE) 

2000-12-05 008.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL - LEO HAGEMAN AND 

2000-12-05 >RENATE HAGEMAN REC OR BK 857 PG 134 

2001-03-09 009.AFFIDAVIT OF DILIGENT SEARCH AND INQUIRY 

2001-03-12 010.NOTICE OF ACTION - PALATKA DAILY NEWS - 03-19-2001; 

2001-03-12 >03-26-2001 - DUE 04-18-2001 

2001-05-04 011.NOTICE OF FILING - PROOF OF PUBLICATION ATTACHED 

2001-05-15 012.MOTION FOR DEFAULT - DEFAULT (ALANA M ROY) 

2001-05-15 >05-16-2001 

2001-05-16 013.CERTIFICATE OF CLERK AS TO PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF 

2001-05-16 >ACTION 

2001-05-16 014.CLERKS CERTIFICATE 

2001-05-22 015.MOTION FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT AND NOTICE OF 

2001-05-22 >HEARING 07-16-2001 @10:45 WAP IN RE: MOTION FOR 

2001-05-22 >SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT 

2001-05-22 016.AFFIDAVIT OF INDEBTEDNESS 

2001-05-22 017.AFFIDAVIT AS TO ATTORNEYS FEE 

2001-05-22 018.LEGAL AUTHORITIES TO SUBSTANTIATE PLAINTIFFS MOTION 

2001-05-22 >FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE 

2001-05-22 019.CERTIFICATE OF COSTS 

2001-07-20 020.MOTION FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT AND SECOND NOTICE 

2001-07-20 >OF HEARING 

2001-08-07 021.ORDER 08-03-2001 WAP IN RE: MOTION FOR SUMMARY 

2001-08-07 >FINAL JUDGMENT DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE 

2001-10-02 022.SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE 10-01-2001 

2001-10-02 >WAP IN RE: JUDGMENT AMOUNT $19,451.42 SALE SET 

2001-10-02 >11-01-2001 @11:00 REC OR BK 870 PG 1548 

2001-10-02 S U P P L E M E N T A L 

2001-10-03 023.NOTICE OF SALE - PALATKA DAILY NEWS - 10-08-2001; 

2001-10-03 >10-15-2001 - SALE SET 11-01-2001 @11:00 

2001-11-01 024.PROOF OF PUBLICATION 

2001-11-01 025.CERTIFICATE OF SALE - PLAINTIFF - $ 1,000.00 

2001-12-03 026.CERTIFICATE OF TITLE REC OR BK 876 PG 1739 

2001-12-03 027.CERTIFICATE OF DISBURSMENTS - NO MONIES COLLECTED 

2001-12-03 >OR DISBURSED BY CLERK 

There are a bunch more on there at;http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 19, 2009, 06:58:15 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


Rose,
Maybe my heart is not in the right place as far as Rons concerned, But this has turned into a circus as far has Ron is concerned...He should be more worried about what Haleigh thinks about not being with her family than not being associated with the Anthonys....sorry I do not intend for this to sound mean toward you Im just sick that this child has not been returned. Another thought I had ...if Haleigh does suddenly appear maybe Ronald is aware that just maybe she will go into foster care, neither parent is capable of raising her now after what she has been through.jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 06:58:48 PM
Heart could this be her?



UCN: 542000CA000428CAXXXX
File Date: 2000-10-27 Disposition Date: 2001-10-02
File Type: FORECLOSURE - CA16
Judge: WILLIAM A PARSONS   

Plaintiffs
Q I ROBERTS INC
HP FAMILY CREDIT UNION  Defendants
HAGEMAN RENATE
ROY ALLANA M
HAGEMAN LEO J 


Date Docket Description
2000-10-27 001.COMPLAINT FOR FORECLOSURE AND EJECTMENT 

2000-10-27 002.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - ALLANA ROY 

2000-10-27 SUMM RTD 11-27-2000 SVD UNEXECUTED 

2000-10-27 003.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - RENATE HAGEMAN 

2000-10-27 SUMM RTD 11-30-2000 SVD 11-22-2000 DUE 12-12-2000 

2000-10-27 004.SUMMONS - SHERIFF - LEO J. HAGEMAN 

2000-10-27 SUMM RTD 11-30-2000 SVD 11-22-2000 DUE 12-12-2000 

2000-10-27 005.NOTICE OF LIS PENDENS / REC OR BK 838 PG 1643 

2000-11-17 006.ANSWER AND CLAIM TO EXCESS FUNDS (HP FAMILY CREDIT 

2000-11-17 UNION) 

2000-12-05 007.NOTICE OF FILING (PROOF OF SATISFACTION OF SECOND 

2000-12-05 >MORTGAGE) 

2000-12-05 008.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL - LEO HAGEMAN AND 

2000-12-05 >RENATE HAGEMAN REC OR BK 857 PG 134 

2001-03-09 009.AFFIDAVIT OF DILIGENT SEARCH AND INQUIRY 

2001-03-12 010.NOTICE OF ACTION - PALATKA DAILY NEWS - 03-19-2001; 

2001-03-12 >03-26-2001 - DUE 04-18-2001 

2001-05-04 011.NOTICE OF FILING - PROOF OF PUBLICATION ATTACHED 

2001-05-15 012.MOTION FOR DEFAULT - DEFAULT (ALANA M ROY) 

2001-05-15 >05-16-2001 

2001-05-16 013.CERTIFICATE OF CLERK AS TO PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF 

2001-05-16 >ACTION 

2001-05-16 014.CLERKS CERTIFICATE 

2001-05-22 015.MOTION FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT AND NOTICE OF 

2001-05-22 >HEARING 07-16-2001 @10:45 WAP IN RE: MOTION FOR 

2001-05-22 >SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT 

2001-05-22 016.AFFIDAVIT OF INDEBTEDNESS 

2001-05-22 017.AFFIDAVIT AS TO ATTORNEYS FEE 

2001-05-22 018.LEGAL AUTHORITIES TO SUBSTANTIATE PLAINTIFFS MOTION 

2001-05-22 >FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE 

2001-05-22 019.CERTIFICATE OF COSTS 

2001-07-20 020.MOTION FOR SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT AND SECOND NOTICE 

2001-07-20 >OF HEARING 

2001-08-07 021.ORDER 08-03-2001 WAP IN RE: MOTION FOR SUMMARY 

2001-08-07 >FINAL JUDGMENT DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE 

2001-10-02 022.SUMMARY FINAL JUDGMENT OF FORECLOSURE 10-01-2001 

2001-10-02 >WAP IN RE: JUDGMENT AMOUNT $19,451.42 SALE SET 

2001-10-02 >11-01-2001 @11:00 REC OR BK 870 PG 1548 

2001-10-02 S U P P L E M E N T A L 

2001-10-03 023.NOTICE OF SALE - PALATKA DAILY NEWS - 10-08-2001; 

2001-10-03 >10-15-2001 - SALE SET 11-01-2001 @11:00 

2001-11-01 024.PROOF OF PUBLICATION 

2001-11-01 025.CERTIFICATE OF SALE - PLAINTIFF - $ 1,000.00 

2001-12-03 026.CERTIFICATE OF TITLE REC OR BK 876 PG 1739 

2001-12-03 027.CERTIFICATE OF DISBURSMENTS - NO MONIES COLLECTED 

2001-12-03 >OR DISBURSED BY CLERK 

There are a bunch more on there at;http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/civ_dkts/frame.php




Yes, thats the one my my2cents.  I am trying to make out if that is the first name of the witness with the last name of Whitmore on Ronald and Misty's marriage doc.




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 07:07:03 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 07:15:48 PM



I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
[/quote]I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.

[/quote]

No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?
[/quote]

Good question about Crystal's cousin. I haven't heard anything from or about that person since it got put out there about witnessing abuse ect...
Also was it ever discovered who that AnnaFL person was/is exactly?

I also had no idea that Ron was never invited to the rally. There again from what I understand his attorney's are not real good at returning phone calls so the no invitation thing has me pretty darned skeptical.
PS I did my best to shorten this post. Hopefully it'll work out  ::MonkeyCool::)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 19, 2009, 07:17:51 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?


Not to butt in,  I remember Crystal saying this in the very beginning, that Ronald knocked Haleigh down when on a porch


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 07:24:02 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?


Not to butt in,  I remember Crystal saying this in the very beginning, that Ronald knocked Haleigh down when on a porch

Yes mymonkey, that is what I am referring to.  It appears that that cousin can't seem to find its way out of the woodwork so far.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 19, 2009, 07:29:43 PM
I'm trying to remember when it was said about the being hit (backhanded IIRC) and knocked down on the porch ect... I am most likely wrong but didn't that come a couple weeks into the investigation? Does anyone have a link?
(I have a difficult time accepting that story but only and just because if I were there and had seen that I would have did a hickory nut crunch on ol' RC but hey...that's just me.)
Benefit of the doubt though...Maybe the witness didn't want to say anything if there were, for instance, no blood and the person was afraid that they might not get to see/visit with the kids if they did tell for alls I know.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 07:34:48 PM



I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.

[/quote]

No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?
[/quote]

Good question about Crystal's cousin. I haven't heard anything from or about that person since it got put out there about witnessing abuse ect...
Also was it ever discovered who that AnnaFL person was/is exactly?

I also had no idea that Ron was never invited to the rally. There again from what I understand his attorney's are not real good at returning phone calls so the no invitation thing has me pretty darned skeptical.
PS I did my best to shorten this post. Hopefully it'll work out  ::MonkeyCool::)
[/quote]

Patricia, I have been trying to google annfl because I think if I/can find that, we can find the name of the landscaping/tree trimming company.  If I remember correctly it is in one of the threads on this site somewhere.  Example: http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:5_rPpYaMCmcJ:scaredmonkeys.net/index.php%3Ftopic%3D4777.msg752689+annafl+art+harris&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 07:51:32 PM
I'm trying to remember when it was said about the being hit (backhanded IIRC) and knocked down on the porch ect... I am most likely wrong but didn't that come a couple weeks into the investigation? Does anyone have a link?
(I have a difficult time accepting that story but only and just because if I were there and had seen that I would have did a hickory nut crunch on ol' RC but hey...that's just me.)
Benefit of the doubt though...Maybe the witness didn't want to say anything if there were, for instance, no blood and the person was afraid that they might not get to see/visit with the kids if they did tell for alls I know.

Sheffield also said she was told by her cousin of an incident where Cummings apparently hit Haleigh after the child bumped into him or smarted off to him.

"She said he just backhanded her. And she fell flat on her face on the porch," Sheffield said.

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:HGBdJKp7VGUJ:www.zimbio.com/Haleigh%2BCummings/articles/75/Haleigh%2BDad%2BDenies%2BEver%2BHitting+And+she+fell+flat+on+her+face+on+the+porch,%22+Sheffield+said.&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 07:54:09 PM
I'm trying to remember when it was said about the being hit (backhanded IIRC) and knocked down on the porch ect... I am most likely wrong but didn't that come a couple weeks into the investigation? Does anyone have a link?
(I have a difficult time accepting that story but only and just because if I were there and had seen that I would have did a hickory nut crunch on ol' RC but hey...that's just me.)
Benefit of the doubt though...Maybe the witness didn't want to say anything if there were, for instance, no blood and the person was afraid that they might not get to see/visit with the kids if they did tell for alls I know.
I don't know anything about a cousin/witness who saw abuse. mymonkey I'm with you on what you just posted.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 07:56:06 PM
Let me clarify, I remember this being said, but I never saw a name of this cousin anywhere, maybe someone else knows a name.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:02:21 PM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

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SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Heart I was looking in the Palatka daily news archives and I found this.....I don't have a subscription so I could not see the whole thing but it looks like Eric passed away.....just something to add to the record. Wish we could see the whole thing any monkeys have a subscription?

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:07:48 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

  Ok, I've got my nanner shield up cause I'm going to spout off 2 cents .........all this time my theory was that a SO did this, BUT if not them my bets were on RC/MC in some form or fashion so what I'm about to say kinda blowsmy mind.

RC's public diss of the Scamthony's tells me a couple of things, first, he sees them to be hypocrites, which they are. Who knows what kind of malarky georgie whispered to him on that first visit, maybe even things like, if ya know something and can make you look bad don't bother to say anything cause LE will use it against you. I'm just sayin maybe.

Second, if RC doesn't in any shape or form want to be identified with people who stand up for the person who killed their grandchild, maybe that means that he really has no idea what happened, he really does believe MC  and wouldn't had married her if he had one suspicion that she was involved.

I for one despise the A's and the horse they rode in on and I've got some real admiration for RC taking a vocal stand against them. Evrybody always says they want people to start calling them out, well, as Gomer Pyle would say, surprise, surprise,  of all people, the big, redneck Ron did it.

Ok, commence the throwing!!!     ::MonkeyTongue::

MizJay....great post and I agree with you...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 08:08:33 PM
Let me clarify, I remember this being said, but I never saw a name of this cousin anywhere, maybe someone else knows a name.
Rose, that statement came from Kim one night I believe on NG, not sure but this person is one that gave her statement to DCF and doesnt wish for her name to be known to the public!!    And If I was any way involved in this big mess, neither would I...LOL


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:09:49 PM

  HEART    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::         

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 08:10:37 PM
Let me clarify, I remember this being said, but I never saw a name of this cousin anywhere, maybe someone else knows a name.
Rose, that statement came from Kim one night I believe on NG, not sure but this person is one that gave her statement to DCF and doesnt wish for her name to be known to the public!!    And If I was any way involved in this big mess, neither would I...LOL
Thanks, I wasn't sure about that  ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: rosebud on May 19, 2009, 08:26:49 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 08:31:37 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
Ron could have went to the vigil were Trenton Duckett's dad spoke, that wasn't near the Anthonys at all.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:31:51 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::

RB...I think that Ron should have gone to the vigil as well with his family..but perhaps it would have turned into a shouting match which none of them would want? dunno...Maybe he was afraid that he would get ambushed like he did before when Geraldo showed up, since the Anthony's were there? who knows what would come out of Cindy's nasty mouth!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 08:33:45 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.

Hello everyone!!!
Art harris says on his site that he does not know why it's said Cummings was not invited since left several messages with his lawyers and then adds, unless his lawyers don't give him messages.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: lady on May 19, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
I agree with Rosebud...If my child was missing I would want everyone out looking..Yes they need to put there problems with one another aside and band together..they could be of more help to finding her instead of all this fighting.And also if someone was having a vigil for my child i dont care if I were invited or not I would go there anyway..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:41:10 PM
Lady,..I would go to any vigil for my child as well...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 08:43:23 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.

I guess it just shows true colors....  And maybe it should be taken as an I don't attitude..  No matter how he feels about Crystal or the Anthony's..  His absence speaks a thousand words. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 08:44:08 PM
Lady,..I would go to any vigil for my child as well...
That's why Ron and his family could have went to Leesburg to that vigil, and then they wouldn't have had to run into Crystal and her mother.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 19, 2009, 08:45:15 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
Ron could have went to the vigil were Trenton Duckett's dad spoke, that wasn't near the Anthonys at all.

When I first read that, my first impression was 'Good For You Ron'...basing my thoughts on the Anthony's and the impression they give when amongst others.



Then this afternoon, I had a second thought about it.  This time, it centered as to WHY RON may NOT have wanted to attend, even though it has now been confirmed that his lawyers knew...but do you think that maybe there is some ....guilt....and Ron just did not want to face the public.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 08:46:51 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?

In the Geraldo interviews,  there was mention of someone who had come forward and told Crystal about the beatings.  Also, on Christmas Day,  the Santo's man observed ron beat little Ron with a stick and he has gone to LE and advised them of that.  It's rather odd that there are two people who have witnessed these actions, and of course ron claims nothing ever happened....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:47:45 PM
Lady,..I would go to any vigil for my child as well...
That's why Ron and his family could have went to Leesburg to that vigil, and then they wouldn't have had to run into Crystal and her mother.

rosie...was this vigil for all missing children or just for Trenton D?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 08:50:15 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDance::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 08:52:09 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 19, 2009, 08:53:45 PM
Here you go HH.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 08:56:04 PM
Here you go HH.....
Oh.....Thank you so much.........I love that picture of Haleigh in the blue dress....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 08:56:11 PM
If anyone especially newer posters,  needs to look back at the cast of characters for the Haleigh bunch, go over to the thread that Wyks has spent so much time on sorting through the characters...that is where I found the info that Katrina Belcher was indeed Crystals aunt and not Ron's aunt....Wyks has done a fantastic job in detailing these relatives and I refer back there just to keep them straight in my mind...
xxxxx

Instrument: 386951   Trans Code: MAR - MARRIAGE RECORD
Book: 823   File Date: 04-26-2000
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 2000 0210

From   To
BELCHER ERIC WADE   EX PARTE
SYKES KATRINA MARIE  

Heart, I am searching for Grandpa Sykes Obituary now, it will list all of their children, and grandchildren.. Will post it as soon as I find it.

Mlee I have been looking for that everwhere....I think that would be a very helpful thing for us to have.....If you have some places to search and just need an extra pair of eyes post a link and I will try to help you.

I did find this over at topix so it looks like we are not the only ones who are interested in this obituary...

Quote from poster at topix...

Sykes, Myles Kirby - Myles Kirby Sykes, 61, of Welaka, died Wednesday, January 23, 2002. Masters Funeral Home....
Published in the Florida Times-Union on 1/28/2002

Who lives in Jacksonville, Florida?
We need the Obit for "Myles Kirby Sykes", please?

January 23, 2002, he expired.
We need to research to see who are the family members in his Obit. IMO

I have run an open google search , nothing, looked through the probate files, nothing, went to Ancestry, nothing.. which is unusual since they have them.. boy do they have them.. But he is not listed on any of them.. I will keep plugging.. it will give us a family listing for sure..   I will keep looking.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 08:56:44 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
Ron could have went to the vigil were Trenton Duckett's dad spoke, that wasn't near the Anthonys at all.

When I first read that, my first impression was 'Good For You Ron'...basing my thoughts on the Anthony's and the impression they give when amongst others.



Then this afternoon, I had a second thought about it.  This time, it centered as to WHY RON may NOT have wanted to attend, even though it has now been confirmed that his lawyers knew...but do you think that maybe there is some ....guilt....and Ron just did not want to face the public.

grama...my opinion...No....

the Anthony's are after their own agenda...and perhaps as MizJay said, even a redneck like Ron recognized that and didn't want anything to do with them? still, he had more of a right to be at Haleigh's vigil than the Anthonys and he should have gone in my  opinion...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:58:03 PM

  HEART    ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh::         

 ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyLaugh:: ::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyDance::

Hello cookie, you came back!  ::MonkeyDance::

Still no Brandi!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 08:58:25 PM
what about all the talk early on that Ron had robbed a guy for drugs and money? Has anyone ever heard any rumors of who that guy might be?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 08:59:15 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?

I heard that as well maureen.  I hope it is something good, like bringing Haleigh to a safe place.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 19, 2009, 09:00:30 PM
Rons lawyers do not want him connected with the Anthonys because ....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 09:02:52 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?

I heard that as well maureen.  I hope it is something good, like bringing Haleigh to a safe place.
we can hope!! I just hope it's not more crap like crystal was making eyes at him again ugh, I kind of lost it for him when I read that on his twitter....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 09:03:05 PM
Lady,..I would go to any vigil for my child as well...
That's why Ron and his family could have went to Leesburg to that vigil, and then they wouldn't have had to run into Crystal and her mother.

rosie...was this vigil for all missing children or just for Trenton D?
It was for all missing children, and Trenton's dad spoke at the Leesburg vigil.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 09:03:15 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?

In the Geraldo interviews,  there was mention of someone who had come forward and told Crystal about the beatings.  Also, on Christmas Day,  the Santo's man observed ron beat little Ron with a stick and he has gone to LE and advised them of that.  It's rather odd that there are two people who have witnessed these actions, and of course ron claims nothing ever happened....

rather odd as well that ron still has custody  of Jr. if these horrible beatings really happened and if they were really reported to LE.... just sayin..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 19, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?
Maybe it's the quiet before the storm.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Lady,..I would go to any vigil for my child as well...
That's why Ron and his family could have went to Leesburg to that vigil, and then they wouldn't have had to run into Crystal and her mother.

rosie...was this vigil for all missing children or just for Trenton D?
It was for all missing children, and Trenton's dad spoke at the Leesburg vigil.

thanks Rosie.....Ron should have gone...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 09:06:30 PM
Rons lawyers do not want him connected with the Anthonys because ....
because when we find out it was through his misdoing Haleigh was taken, a linch mob is not formed to hang him and some grain of sympathy will emerge when he is reunited with his daughter  :puker:


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 09:07:47 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?
Maybe it's the quiet before the storm.
I hope! this storm has been too long coming!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 19, 2009, 09:09:29 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?
Maybe it's the quiet before the storm.
I hope this is true, however I think its just a line to keep people standing at the ready and not get bored!!!!   God Bless Haleigh!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 19, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?
Maybe it's the quiet before the storm.
I hope this is true, however I think its just a line to keep people standing at the ready and not get bored!!!!   God Bless Haleigh!
I'm sorry to say I think the same thing! HH it sounded to me like you are planning another trip to Satsuma, are you going soon?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
I heard T.J. Hart say on HLN that there MAY be something to report tomorrow and he was leaving it at that... wonder what it could be? Art Harris has been quiet too don't you think?
Maybe it's the quiet before the storm.
I hope this is true, however I think its just a line to keep people standing at the ready and not get bored!!!!   God Bless Haleigh!

Yep!
and yes! God Bless Haleigh...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 09:14:44 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDance::
#241  Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:31 am

Diane–

That’s strange you claim Teresa nad Ron were not informed of the vigil? Who told you that? I left a couple of messages with Ron’s lawyer starting Thursday asking them to call me back and asking whether their client was going… Maybe they forgot to tell him.


IMHO,  Art is only a reporter.

And as far as the Anthonys they claimed that they did not even know that their daughter who lived under their roof was not gainfully employed for 2 years.

I don't recall them searching for poor little Cayle, whose body laid right down the road from them decaying.

And they way that witch Cindy treated Zenaida in that deposition was just shameful.

I agree with Ron's attorneys, the Anthonys can kiss off, get lost.

There are more people out there that can assist other than those 2 creatures.

JMO!

I


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: klaasend on May 19, 2009, 09:17:45 PM
Likely a repost:

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090519/ARTICLES/905191010

Family won't give up search for missing Putnam girl
Father makes video plea asking for help in finding Haleigh Cummings


By Lise Fisher
Staff writer


Published: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 6:30 a.m.

(http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=OS&Date=20090519&Category=ARTICLES&ArtNo=905191010&Ref=V1)
Concerned volunteer Don Knop ties up a poster of missing child Haleigh Cummings on Wednesday outside the Haleigh Bug Center near Satsuma, a memorial center intended to keep the community aware of the missing 5-year-old.



The father of a missing Satsuma girl made a video plea last week asking people not to forget his daughter.

"Don't give up. It's been a long time, but she's still out there somewhere. And the one tip that you think might be nothing might be the one that brings her home, and we still need her to come home," Ronald Cummings said in a short video posted on the Web site www.findhaleighnow.com.

"Haleigh, if you're watching, baby, I love you, and we're still looking for you," he said.

More than three months since Haleigh Cummings was last seen, the same message of persistence and hope was voiced at the Haleigh Bug Center.

The purple office building next to U.S. 17 in Putnam County is dotted with faux butterflies and features a banner with the child's picture.

"It's to keep Haleigh's face out there as much as possible," Don Knop said before hanging the banner.

Knop has been helping at the center, acting as needed as a manager, director and volunteer.

The single-story office collects donations to aid in the search for "Haleigh Bug," as her dad calls her, and offers a tip line, as does the Web site www.haleighbug.com.

Until recently, the office also had been a place where the girl's mother, Crystal Sheffield, could stay and remain near the location where her child was last seen.

Sheffield lives in Baker County and traveled back and forth between the two counties until Knop and her attorney, Kim Picazio, said she was told to get some rest.

Sheffield has had seizures, including one while she was driving and another at the center where she fell and hit her head, Picazio and law enforcement said.

Doctors have not been able to determine a cause, said Picazio, who indicated stress might be a factor.

But the news Haleigh's neighbors want isn't from the families, but from investigators, who have remained quiet about the case except to say they still are searching.

Putnam County Sheriff's Capt. Dick Schauland stressed that if the agency had information that would lead to the girl's safe return, investigators would release it regardless of the impact on the case.

For now, however, he said the agency continues to follow up leads and re-interview people close to Haleigh depending on what new information comes forward.

About 200 to 300 interviews have been conducted in the case, he said, with some people interviewed as many as 10 times.

"At this point, I would have to tell you we don't know where Haleigh is, and we don't know what has happened to her. Nobody has been named as a suspect. Nobody has been disqualified," Schauland said. "It is a mystery. It really is."

The Sheriff's Office has had more than 4,000 leads, with tips still coming in - but not at the furious pace as at the beginning of the investigation, and no recent reports that anyone has seen Haleigh, Schauland said.

Detective Peggy Cone now is the lead investigator, Schauland said.

The law enforcement agency estimated it had spent about $66,000 on 2,279 hours of overtime in the search.


Schauland and Picazio both said there is an ongoing investigation involving Haleigh and the Florida Department of Children and Families.

Picazio said the investigation, prompted from various sources throughout the community, involves Ronald Cummings, who had custody of Haleigh at the time of her disappearance.

Schauland wouldn't confirm the subject of the DCF investigation.

One of the neighbors who lives near the home where Haleigh was last seen says he thinks the Sheriff's Office knows more than it's saying.

"When they get the puzzle all together, the public will know about it. The law has its privilege of keeping things to itself," said James Batchelor, 88.

Looking out at the neighborhood from his front porch, Batchelor said things are quieter.

The tents and vehicles associated with the search for Haleigh have mostly left.

Another neighbor, however, said Haleigh's disappearance followed by the concentration of police, onlookers and news media was too much.

Asking not to be named, she said she and her husband are trying to sell their home.

The woman said she doesn't feel safe anymore and that living in a neighborhood frequented by law enforcement wasn't her idea of moving away from the big-city experience in Orlando.


Batchelor said he believes the case will be solved.

"I hope to God she will," he said when asked if he thought Haleigh could be recovered safe. "I believe it will be solved. I hope so because that little angel didn't deserve what happened to her."




Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 19, 2009, 09:19:53 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
::MonkeyDance:: ::MonkeyTongue:: ::MonkeyDance::
#241  Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:31 am

Diane–

That’s strange you claim Teresa nad Ron were not informed of the vigil? Who told you that? I left a couple of messages with Ron’s lawyer starting Thursday asking them to call me back and asking whether their client was going… Maybe they forgot to tell him.


IMHO,  Art is only a reporter.

And as far as the Anthonys they claimed that they did not even know that their daughter who lived under their roof was not gainfully employed for 2 years.

I don't recall them searching for poor little Cayle, whose body laid right down the road from them decaying.

And they way that witch Cindy treated Zenaida in that deposition was just shameful.

I agree with Ron's attorneys, the Anthonys can kiss off, get lost.

There are more people out there that can assist other than those 2 creatures.

JMO!

I


very true Heart...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 09:33:01 PM
Good evening my monkey friends. Over at Art's site he had said that Ron and his atty. knew about the vigil. I personally think they should have been there. I don't like the Anthony's either,but, if it was my child I would be there anyway. Also, it wasn't just the Anthony's that were there. He doesn't have to talk to them. I have said before that if Ron and Crystal could put there bad feelings aside and try to find Haleigh it would be so much better. However, I don't foresee that ever happening with Misty and Ron's mommy. Actually, it's time Ron grew some and stood up to Misty and pulled toghter with Crystal. I know he's all "Big Billy Bob Ass" but for some reason Misty has something on him. Please remember this is just MY opiniion. No nanners,please. LOL ::MonkeyAngel::
Ron could have went to the vigil were Trenton Duckett's dad spoke, that wasn't near the Anthonys at all.

When I first read that, my first impression was 'Good For You Ron'...basing my thoughts on the Anthony's and the impression they give when amongst others.



Then this afternoon, I had a second thought about it.  This time, it centered as to WHY RON may NOT have wanted to attend, even though it has now been confirmed that his lawyers knew...but do you think that maybe there is some ....guilt....and Ron just did not want to face the public.

I even accepted the possibility that his lawyer advised him not to go.. and then the second though comes in, and "What type of Creepy Lawyer, would tell him not to go talk to the public and ask them to help find his child.. I bet that interview tape he did for the web site was suppose to equal a public appearance.. That's why that was released just before the gathering.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 19, 2009, 10:11:03 PM
Ronald Cummings to Casey Anthony family: Stay away
 ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::    ::MonkeyDevil::
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-casey-anthony-051909,0,2097323.story

I understand not wanting to be around the Anthony's, but if that's what I HAD o do to keep my child's face, name out there I'd do it............but, what is his and his chil bride's excuse or not attending the one in Leesburg.........donations for gas money dried up ::MonkeyDevil::not tattoo parlor there  ::MonkeyAngel::
Exactly, seems like a ridiculous stunt to me, but of course that's my opinion.

Amen..........not to mention there's not a chance in h@ll Ron could even formulate that thought IMO, pure stunt!!


I agree this is bs Im sure Ronalds lawyer told him everybody hates the Anthonys ....Good way for Ronald to make brownie points with the public...Ronald if you want to  do the right thing you and wifey need to tell the truth.
I agree with what you just said, good way to make brownie points with the public.  But this sentence from the latest article makes sense to me also why this statement was made today. ( Haleigh’s mother was invited to the rally, but the Cummings family was not invited to attend.) Since I'm a very cynical person, I'm sure that rubbed Ron the wrong way also.


No Rose has it ever been revealed the name of Crystal's cousin who early said that she had witnessed Ronald hit and or beat Haleigh or was that some of AnnaFL'S tales?

In the Geraldo interviews,  there was mention of someone who had come forward and told Crystal about the beatings.  Also, on Christmas Day,  the Santo's man observed ron beat little Ron with a stick and he has gone to LE and advised them of that.  It's rather odd that there are two people who have witnessed these actions, and of course ron claims nothing ever happened....

rather odd as well that ron still has custody  of Jr. if these horrible beatings really happened and if they were really reported to LE.... just sayin..

If you go to youtube you will find the Geraldo interview, and if you listed to the last radio broadcast, you will hear what Cobra and Art describe the interviews with LE.. That should clear in up... And why ron was not arrested.. I wish I knew, and also, for short elevator hitting little Ron in the Head at the clinic.. I don't know why there isn't an arrest warrant out for her.  Both need to set their backsides in Jail for what they are doing to that little one....  And you have seen the photos of the  bruise's on the back of Little Ron's Legs.  Haleigh and Little Ron are both Victims in this.. Not their parents.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 10:15:08 PM
Gregory Page aka WBG

Instrument: 109618   Trans Code: ORD - ORDER
Book: 531   File Date: 09-22-1988
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 81-0427-CA-M

From   To
LOOKADOO ARCILLA LYNETTE   EX PARTE
PAGE GREGORY LEWIS   
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

LOOKADOO    DANIEL    SMITH    9/28/1968   M   B    200600005584   4/11/2007 4:40:03 PM
LOOKADOO    DANIEL    SMITH    9/28/1969   M   B    07-04095    9/10/2007 4:59:49 AM
LOOKADOO    DANIEL    SMITH    9/28/1969   M   B    07-05046    11/14/2007 6:12:07 PM

http://public.pcso.us/jail/history.aspx

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF FLORIDA DANIEL S. LOOKADOO, Petitioner, v ...

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:Wk_wqvDBiv8J:www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc96460/96460ans.pdf+lookadoo+florida&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 10:59:02 PM
Gregory Page aka WBG

Instrument: 109618   Trans Code: ORD - ORDER
Book: 531   File Date: 09-22-1988
Consideration: $ 0.00   Description: 81-0427-CA-M

From   To
LOOKADOO ARCILLA LYNETTE   EX PARTE
PAGE GREGORY LEWIS   
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/or_public/or_frame.php

LOOKADOO    DANIEL    SMITH    9/28/1968   M   B    200600005584   4/11/2007 4:40:03 PM
LOOKADOO    DANIEL    SMITH    9/28/1969   M   B    07-04095    9/10/2007 4:59:49 AM
LOOKADOO    DANIEL    SMITH    9/28/1969   M   B    07-05046    11/14/2007 6:12:07 PM

http://public.pcso.us/jail/history.aspx

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF FLORIDA DANIEL S. LOOKADOO, Petitioner, v ...

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:Wk_wqvDBiv8J:www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc96460/96460ans.pdf+lookadoo+florida&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

So this Arcilla woman is pages baby moma  it's a child support order.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 11:03:13 PM
Page was ordered to pay arcilla 26.00 a week  file date 9-22-1988   what would page's age have been?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 11:09:30 PM
Page was ordered to pay arcilla 26.00 a week  file date 9-22-1988   what would page's age have been?

Monkeys correct me if I'm wrong but page I think is 28 so unless that's a mistake on that record, that should have been 1998, then there is another GLP.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 11:16:39 PM
I don't think the date is a mistake so is page older than 28 or is that his dad's name also?  I'm Confused  ::MonkeyConfused::
But that seems to happen a lot with this case. ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 11:21:32 PM
That was his dad I think.
I think this is his(GLP) mother, Arcilla's myspace

http://www.myspace.com/queeninamerica


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 11:24:32 PM
Page was ordered to pay arcilla 26.00 a week  file date 9-22-1988   what would page's age have been?

PAGE    GREGORY    LEWIS    8/04/1980   M   B    200600006147   12/24/2006 12:09:12 PM
PAGE    GREGORY    LEWIS    8/04/1980   M   B    08-00742    2/13/2008 8:10:36 PM
PAGE    GREGORY    LEWIS    8/04/1980   M   B    08-02456    5/27/2008 8:19:34 PM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 19, 2009, 11:25:38 PM
Is there anyway we can fing out if Katrina Belcher had a boat ? ::MonkeyTongue::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 19, 2009, 11:37:08 PM
Is there anyway we can fing out if Katrina Belcher had a boat ? ::MonkeyTongue::

I don't know JG, but I will search on tomorrow.

Now I am on my way to bed.

Goodnite all!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 19, 2009, 11:38:21 PM
Good night Heart


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 12:08:39 AM
Does anybody know if a female Jessie Sykes is any kin to TN?  I found a deed transfer from Jessie Sykes AKA Jessie Northey and husband John Northey to Marianne Snodgrass  and Wiley D Snodgrass  I wonder if this is the same Snodgrass in Art's articles.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Jerseygirl345 on May 20, 2009, 12:09:18 AM


I dont know if this is the same belcher.. still looking..  ::MonkeyTongue::

Freeman Belcher Sr., age 78, of RR #4 Box 135, Montrose (Retta), died at his home on Sunday morning, Sept. 23, 2007.

He was born in Sussex, N.J., on Aug. 20, 1929, son of the late Zenas Raymond and Alma Belcher.

After spending his early years in New Jersey, he later served his country, during the Korean War, where he was a sergeant. For most of life he was employed as a self employed carpenter, in the Susquehanna County area.

For many years, Freeman was a member of the Rought Hall Post #510 American Legion in Black Walnut.

He is survived by his companion for the last 30 years, Mrs. Edith Dodge, Tunkhannock; a daughter, Mary Toriello, Sussex, N.J.; two sons, Eric Belcher, Florida; and Brian Belcher, Virginia; nine grandchildren; eight sisters, Theresa Webb, Tunkhannock; Leona (Pat) Saxer-McMicken, Laceyville; Mary Jane Fox, Jacksonville, Fla.; Bertha Bedell, Nicholson; Alma Sudek, Glenwood, N.J.; Shirley Drake, Unionville, N.Y.; Margaret Rude, Franklin, N.J.; and Carol Faye Weed, Milford; six brothers, Raymond Belcher, Retta; William Belcher, Falls; Richard Belcher, New Albany; Ernest Belcher, Northeast, Md.; Lindy Belcher, Centermoreland; and Donald Belcher, Sussex, N.J., and several nieces and nephews.

Besides his parents, he was preceded in death by a son, Freeman Belcher Jr., who passed away in November 2005.

Graveside services will be held on Thursday, Sept. 27, at 1 p.m. at the Jersey Hill Cemetery with Mrs. Patricia Newhart officiating.



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 12:09:19 AM
Not sure if anyone had posted this yet or not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-body-found-at-landfill-051909,0,5879905.story


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 12:14:09 AM
New information up at artharris.com


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 12:44:54 AM
New information up at artharris.com
Patricia, I looked but dont see anything new,  what does it say!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 12:53:32 AM
Not sure if anyone had posted this yet or not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-body-found-at-landfill-051909,0,5879905.story

I bet it's that missing SO, I read in a article that he told somebody he'd be waiting in a trash dumpster.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090515/articles/905151010


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 12:56:00 AM
New information up at artharris.com
Patricia, I looked but dont see anything new,  what does it say!
It has the same title or a similar one as the last article, but look at the dates and number of comments.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 12:56:11 AM
New information up at artharris.com
Patricia, I looked but dont see anything new,  what does it say!

I had to look twice but yeah I did say new information. I meant new posts. Not really any new information that's for sure. My appolgies.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 12:57:26 AM
Not sure if anyone had posted this yet or not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-body-found-at-landfill-051909,0,5879905.story

I bet it's that missing SO, I read in a article that he told somebody he'd be waiting in a trash dumpster.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090515/articles/905151010
Whoever it is this is sad. I was thinking Chad Reynolds too.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 12:58:38 AM
Not sure if anyone had posted this yet or not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-body-found-at-landfill-051909,0,5879905.story

I bet it's that missing SO, I read in a article that he told somebody he'd be waiting in a trash dumpster.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090515/articles/905151010

Well that's their story about what he told them anyway. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 01:05:08 AM
Not sure if anyone had posted this yet or not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-body-found-at-landfill-051909,0,5879905.story

I bet it's that missing SO, I read in a article that he told somebody he'd be waiting in a trash dumpster.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090515/articles/905151010

Well that's their story about what he told them anyway. JMO

OMG,I never thought of it that way, but yes your right about that.  ::MonkeyShocked::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 01:22:31 AM
Not sure if anyone had posted this yet or not.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-body-found-at-landfill-051909,0,5879905.story

I bet it's that missing SO, I read in a article that he told somebody he'd be waiting in a trash dumpster.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090515/articles/905151010

Well that's their story about what he told them anyway. JMO

OMG,I never thought of it that way, but yes your right about that.  ::MonkeyShocked::

Hopefully they will get an id soon. I read that the decomp is very bad. DNA and dental records are probably all they are going to have the way it sounds.
Just sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 01:24:50 AM
I googled Nadjya neves, the woman teresa neves's ex husband john c neves married and I think there is a possiblity that he is now going by the name jack neves, unless she married another neves or that could be the babys name. I saw it in a baby registry made on 3/18/2009.

http://www.amazingregistry.com/baby-registry/Nodjya-Neves/Jack-Neves/Registry.ashx?a=4234902


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 01:26:45 AM
yes, very sad patricia, I read that his mother thought he was dead, but was still holding out hope that he would be found alive.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 01:34:20 AM
Ok well I found out it's a girl   ::MonkeyDance::  So I guess that wouldn't be the baby's name, so I think that is the name that john is using.  And it said the exspected arrival date was 3/17/09.  Even though T neves and J neves are divorced Would Ron still be her big brother? 

http://www.toysrus.com/ControllerServlet?target=viewDetails&operation=authenticate_user&registryNumber=92692419&from=registrySearch


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 02:01:15 AM
Ok well I found out it's a girl   ::MonkeyDance::  So I guess that wouldn't be the baby's name, so I think that is the name that john is using.  And it said the exspected arrival date was 3/17/09.  Even though T neves and J neves are divorced Would Ron still be her big brother? 

http://www.toysrus.com/ControllerServlet?target=viewDetails&operation=authenticate_user&registryNumber=92692419&from=registrySearch
Wow that's sad though.
She was born right around the time her niece is missing if that is true right?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 02:18:06 AM
yep.  My only reason for digging in to this is because we heard that LE thinks it was not a stranger abduction and that it was someone the family knew, so who all does the family know that we haven't heard a lot about?  This is someone that we haven't heard about that much. 
I think if he and TN divorced in 2007 then he should have known Haleigh, right? 
So far that I've read I haven't found lots of bad charges on him like the rest of them have, only one abuse toward TN in 1993 and a couple of traffic tickets.   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 06:17:13 AM
yep.  My only reason for digging in to this is because we heard that LE thinks it was not a stranger abduction and that it was someone the family knew, so who all does the family know that we haven't heard a lot about?  This is someone that we haven't heard about that much. 
I think if he and TN divorced in 2007 then he should have known Haleigh, right? 
So far that I've read I haven't found lots of bad charges on him like the rest of them have, only one abuse toward TN in 1993 and a couple of traffic tickets.   

Your researching everyone, and that's exactly what we have to do.. and your research locations are smart.. you thought of something I would have missed. I'm right behind you on this.. I'm just floored with these men who are married to girls half their age..  I came up with records on a Donald Squires and Anita Squires, but they aren't opening, apparently the files is not there, or their link is back.. and there are three sets..... Your doing good work.........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 07:37:48 AM
Morning all Monkeys in da cage....there are monkeys in da house! ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

on  a sadder note:
in regards to the body being found in a landfill.....wonder if it is that Chad Reynolds???? Regardless, it is someone's loved one.....

JNGA....is Searching still having computer problems??? tell her that she is missed will ya?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 07:49:55 AM
We Monkey's are blessed with a Friend who lives in the Satsuma Area.  She keeps track of our postings, and has been encouraged her to join us,  If and when she decides, we will be so lucky to have her as a Monkey.  With Her help on the locations, address's and people in the area, it will keep us updated and help complete conclusions.  As you can tell "She is our Eyes in Satsuma".

In post #1567 by My2cents, there is a mistake in her findings.  Memas diner is a good half hour traveling on Hwy 17 up to Palatka and then on State Road 20 (Crill Av) to get to Huddle House.   With all the publicity, Memas has a much bigger sign up with their food specials.  It is supposed to have good food.
 
In post #1568 by Jerseygirl345, The address given for Katrina Belcher is 116 Edgewater, according to the Tax Collector's records online, it is owned by Frick IVI of St. Augustine.  It is a residentail area and is on  a canal to Dunns Creek.  A MH in on the property and the place is valued at about 145K.  The tree cutting equipment must be kept elsewhere rather than on a small residential lot.  The Special Touch Lawn Service is also in a nice residential area of Crescent City on Lake St. and lawn equipment fits nicely into a garage or carport. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: JNGA on May 20, 2009, 07:54:37 AM
Good morning Mlee and Cookie
Sorry,I only chat with her online.  That day she was having problems with her computer, I had sent her a email and she was able to respond before it went down on her again, to ask if I'd let everyone know that she was having problems and might not be on for a while until she got it fixed or got a new one.  She hasn't logged into her Myspace since May 7th, so I guess her computer still isn't fixed.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 08:06:49 AM
Good morning cookie, mlee, JNGA, all Monkeys and guests!

Haleigh Cummings – Odd Things In Putnam County?
Posted on May 19th, 2009
by Simon Barrett in Society and Culture


I will be the first to admit that I get the strangest emails. People offer me millions of dollars every day. I tend to refuse the offers sent, preferring that they extend this largess to someone else. I also am bombarded by calls about my credit card rate, and how it can reduce it, there is another company that wants me to renew my car warranty.  While I love the fact that these caring people are looking after my well being, I say Bull Shit! I am a big boy, I can look after myself.

When you start talking about an innocent 5 year old, some different rules kick into gear. Haleigh Cummings has been missing for more than three months. She seems to have just disappeared into thin air.

This makes for a strange story. Then Girlfriend (now wife) to father Ronald Cummings has told so many different versions of what happened that night that my head is still spinning. My investigation shows that she has been interviewed at least 10 times, and we have 10 different timelines.

Of course all of the major players, with the exception of Misty have lawyered up. Misty however says “only the guilty need a lawyer.” Nice sentiment, but one that I think she should think about.

I have some interesting insider information. Oh the joys of knowing people in low places.

Even the lawyers are now lawyered up! Why would they do that? If you are representing the best interests of the missing child, why do you need a lawyer of your own?

Should the lawyer I am talking about care to email me and explain the situation, I would be delighted to do so. From my perspective all I see it is bad stuff, and that is always an ugly position to come from. Who is working for who? Maybe even worse, what are the motivations?

Just like the Caylee Anthony story, this sad story seems to be attracting the same bad dudes.

I am going to bet that the two bit crooks running Kidfinders, and the much more serious hoods from The Never Leave Hope Foundation are sucking them into their story.

Where the Anthony family goes, these sleaze bags are not far behind.

Oh, we have lots of leads, we have lots of friends, and as we get more information we will publish what we can. This may not be directly linked to the story, but, there are some interesting stories doing the rounds! We are on them, and if my info is right, there are a couple of attorneys that might want to put in an application at McDonalds, if nothing else they might be able to get the old cooking oil!

Simon Barrett

http://www.bloggernews.net/120946


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 08:14:56 AM
O/T - There have been two arrests made in the Tori Stafford case.  No word on Tori...check the missing persons forum for more info. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 08:32:21 AM
#330  Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 10:59 pm

Ronda–

You are right about Ron…he’s gotten public backlash and little sympathy for his public mourning in restaurants around town, identifying himsef as father of the missing child, and snagging free meals…Despite how public opinion falls, a friend of the family called to say how tough it’s been for him.

Emotionally (”He loved his little girl, and hopes she’s still alive”) and financially. “He can’t support his family after losing his job; he’s taking odd jobs where he can get them. He did some yard work the other day, and after deducting gas and expenses, made 20 bucks. Crystal is getting all the money. No one is giving to the account set up by Jamie Watts at Bank of America. He could use some help.”
#331 Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

2 Spunky re vigil–

Friend of Teresa’s told me same thing, that their lawyer never told them of vigil, even after my messages. Had she known, she says Teresa would have found a way to get there, despite injuries ffrom a car wreck that’s left her hurting at a time when friend say her docs have ordered not to work…

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 08:33:02 AM
thanks grama...was just over on her thread...


Heart....thanks for that excellent article....^^^^
morning to all sleepy monkeys just waking up..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 08:34:36 AM
thanks grama...was just over on her thread...


Heart....thanks for that excellent article....^^^^  the one by Simon Barrett...
morning to all sleepy monkeys just waking up..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 08:54:43 AM
#277  Becca Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 2:17 am

Art Harris Says:
May 19th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Diane–

That’s strange you claim Teresa nad Ron were not informed of the vigil? Who told you that? I left a couple of messages with Ron’s lawyer starting Thursday asking them to call me back and asking whether their client was going… Maybe they forgot to tell him.
———————
Art,

What, I find odd is the fact the Sheffield family was invited by Michelle Bart, but the Cummings family wasn’t. I also find it odd, the name that was used in the event held this past Sunday, was the Cummings and not the Sheffield’s. We should not forget who Michelle Bart is, the spokesperson for the Anthony’s. All IMO and facts, of course. Be well http://nationalvigilforhope.org/?page_id=16

http://www.artharris.com/2009/05/14/the-bald-truth-on-cnn-jane-velez-mitchell/#comments


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 09:02:41 AM
Another Charged In Death of Kristina Hepp

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

Another arrest has been made in connection with the beating death of 4-year-old Kristina Hepp.

19-year-old Chelci Rae Folds was arrested Tuesday afternoon by the Gilchrist County Sheriff's Office and charged with neglect of a child involving great bodily harm.

Folds was living at the Waccasassa mobile home with little Kristina and her father, 23-year-old Matthew Roland, when the child was found dead inside the home on April 27.

Roland was indicted on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse. The state is seeking the death penalty for Roland.

Folds was charged for failing to provide care even knowing that the child was injured.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4433914.php


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 09:07:20 AM
Another Charged In Death of Kristina Hepp

TJ Hart Reporting
tjhart@entercom.com

Another arrest has been made in connection with the beating death of 4-year-old Kristina Hepp.

19-year-old Chelci Rae Folds was arrested Tuesday afternoon by the Gilchrist County Sheriff's Office and charged with neglect of a child involving great bodily harm.

Folds was living at the Waccasassa mobile home with little Kristina and her father, 23-year-old Matthew Roland, when the child was found dead inside the home on April 27.

Roland was indicted on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse. The state is seeking the death penalty for Roland.

Folds was charged for failing to provide care even knowing that the child was injured.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/4433914.php

good..I hope that they both rot in hell....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:07:45 AM
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDe...4200&IMG=54675

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=32460

JAMES RICHARD STONE
BARDIN,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/20/2009 1:06:10 AM  - Booking#: 09-02061
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 1/7/1977 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
948.06- PROB VIOLATION  N N  $0.00   
948.06- PROB VIOLATION  N N  $0.00   
948.06- PROB VIOLATION  N N  $0.00   
        $0.00   

Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer 
 
 
James R Stone
Date Of Photo: 01/23/2009
 Click Here to Track this Offender 
Designation:  Sexual Offender 
Name:  James R Stone 
Status:  Supervised - FL Dept of Corrections 
Department of Corrections #:  141445
Search the Dept of Corrections Website 
Date of Birth:  01/07/1977
Race :  White
Sex:  Male
Hair:  Brown
Eyes:  Hazel
Height:  5'07"
Weight:  165 lbs 
 
Stone is registered as a Sexual Offender.  Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made. 
 
Aliases 
Richard Richard Stone, Richard Stone, James Stone, James Richard Stone, Jr Stone 
Scars, Marks & Tattoos 
BROKEN HEART 13 MALLET W/TINA,UNICORN,TATTOO RIGHT ARM:CROSS W/MELISSA; ,TATTOO LEFT SHOULDER:UNICORN; ,TATTOO LEFT SHOULDER UNICORN TATTOO RIGHT ARM CROSS W/MELISSA TATTOO LEFT ARM BROKEN HEART 13 MA,TATTOO LEFT ARM:BROKEN HEART 13 MALLET W/TINA; ,TATTOO BACK:HEART W/WINGS CROSS ABOVE; ,SCAR STOMACH:SCAR; ,HEART W/WINGS CROSS ABOVE,CROSS W/MELISSA 
Address Information 
Address  Address Source Information  Map Link
403 Hootowl Ridge Rd
Satsuma, FL 32189
Putnam COUNTY Source: Dept. of Corrections
Received: 01/27/2009
Type of Address: Permanent  Address not mappable 
286 Johns Rd
Palatka, FL 32177-8762
Putnam COUNTY Source: Registration
Received: 01/23/2009
Type of Address: Temp 
Show Map 
 
Crime Information - Qualifying Offenses 
Adjudication Date Crime Description  Court Case Number  Jurisdiction & State Adjudication 
05/22/1997 LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL)  9501799 PUTNAM, FL  Not Available
05/22/1997 LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL IN ATTEMPT)  9600971 PUTNAM, FL  Not Available
05/22/1997 LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL IN ATTEMPT)  9501881 PUTNAM, FL  Not Available
 
Victim Information 
Gender:Unknown  Minor:Yes
 

 



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If further information is needed, please contact the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Registration & Compliance Unit at (1-888-357-7332) between the hours of 8am and 6:30pm, Monday through Friday.

Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.
Any person who misuses public records information relating to a sexual predator, as defined in this section, or a sexual offender, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree. Please see 775.21(10)(c) for more information.
 
 


 
           


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 09:07:48 AM
Haleigh Cummings: Unwanted Support!

Posted on May 19th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture


Satsuma, Florida- I have said it before and I will say it again, I don’t think that Cindy and George Anthony should be supporting in anyway the search and recovery effort of Haleigh Cummings. They have proven themselves only to be untrustworthy, acting belligerent and out of control at times. They continue to promote the innocence of a murderer and accuse the fantasy Nanny Z. Caylee was never missing she was taken by her mother and murdered. There is no Nanny Z. there never was. Who in there right mind would allow the Anthony’s to be anywhere near Haleigh’s search? It has been reported that Ronald Cummings has spoken against the Anthony’s lending there support to Haleigh’s search. He has asked the public to keep searching for his daughter in a video from his attorney’s office. He remains adamant that he wants help but not from the Anthony’ s. I couldn’t agree more, the Anthony’s and CMAF  don’t need to be anywhere near Haleigh. To me it’s a huge mistake to let them anywhere near this.

Haleigh does not need to be their cause. Their own flesh and blood wasn’t even their cause until she was found dead duct taped in bags on the Chicksaw Trails just a mile or so from their home. Then they decided she was a cause worth spending time on. Carrying out her image in death so that she died for a purpose. Shady at best, and now they want in on my girl. Ronald’s family also stated that they believe that the Anthony’s have there own agenda in this and that the circumstances surrounding Caylee’s murder are not like Haleigh’s disappearance. I agree fully on this, the Anthony’s have done nothing but lie non stop about who killed Caylee. Let me go into that for a moment, before Haleigh I was wrapped around Caylee. I know a bit about this one. The Anthony’s would love for the nation and the world to believe there poor, young, misunderstood, mother of the year daughter (their words not mine) is innocent of any wrong doing. They want us to believe it was the evil, hateful, fantasy Nanny Z. who took Caylee from her mothers arms at a park in exchange for a script to follow for thirty days. When Casey couldn’t follow the script and was out getting tattoos and partying at clubs the fantasy Nanny Z. got angry with Casey and wanted to teach her the ultimate lesson for being a bad mother by killing Caylee, and framing Casey for the murder of her own child. What? Okay, I don’t buy it and I don’t think much of America does either, though I hear that the Anthony’s do have some sympathizers how many I am not sure. I am not one of them. I don’t feel they have any right to be involved in the search for Haleigh. Caylee was murdered by Casey Anthony not the fantasy Nanny Z. no matter how much they try to shove the deceit and lies down our throats I will not swallow.

more...http://www.bloggernews.net/120944



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 09:13:52 AM
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDe...4200&IMG=54675

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=32460

JAMES RICHARD STONE
BARDIN,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 5/20/2009 1:06:10 AM  - Booking#: 09-02061
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 1/7/1977 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M
 

Charges   Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
948.06- PROB VIOLATION  N N  $0.00   
948.06- PROB VIOLATION  N N  $0.00   
948.06- PROB VIOLATION  N N  $0.00   
        $0.00   

Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer 
 
 
James R Stone
Date Of Photo: 01/23/2009
 Click Here to Track this Offender 
Designation:  Sexual Offender 
Name:  James R Stone 
Status:  Supervised - FL Dept of Corrections 
Department of Corrections #:  141445
Search the Dept of Corrections Website 
Date of Birth:  01/07/1977
Race :  White
Sex:  Male
Hair:  Brown
Eyes:  Hazel
Height:  5'07"
Weight:  165 lbs 
 
Stone is registered as a Sexual Offender.  Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made. 
 
Aliases 
Richard Richard Stone, Richard Stone, James Stone, James Richard Stone, Jr Stone 
Scars, Marks & Tattoos 
BROKEN HEART 13 MALLET W/TINA,UNICORN,TATTOO RIGHT ARM:CROSS W/MELISSA; ,TATTOO LEFT SHOULDER:UNICORN; ,TATTOO LEFT SHOULDER UNICORN TATTOO RIGHT ARM CROSS W/MELISSA TATTOO LEFT ARM BROKEN HEART 13 MA,TATTOO LEFT ARM:BROKEN HEART 13 MALLET W/TINA; ,TATTOO BACK:HEART W/WINGS CROSS ABOVE; ,SCAR STOMACH:SCAR; ,HEART W/WINGS CROSS ABOVE,CROSS W/MELISSA 
Address Information 
Address  Address Source Information  Map Link
403 Hootowl Ridge Rd
Satsuma, FL 32189
Putnam COUNTY Source: Dept. of Corrections
Received: 01/27/2009
Type of Address: Permanent  Address not mappable 
286 Johns Rd
Palatka, FL 32177-8762
Putnam COUNTY Source: Registration
Received: 01/23/2009
Type of Address: Temp 
Show Map 
 
Crime Information - Qualifying Offenses 
Adjudication Date Crime Description  Court Case Number  Jurisdiction & State Adjudication 
05/22/1997 LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL)  9501799 PUTNAM, FL  Not Available
05/22/1997 LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL IN ATTEMPT)  9600971 PUTNAM, FL  Not Available
05/22/1997 LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL IN ATTEMPT)  9501881 PUTNAM, FL  Not Available
 
Victim Information 
Gender:Unknown  Minor:Yes
 

 



CAUTION! If you reached this flyer from any site other than FDLE's Florida Sexual Offender and Predator homepage, FDLE cannot guarantee the timeliness of the information you are viewing. To receive the most current information regarding registered sexual offenders or sexual predators registered with the State of Florida please conduct an "Offender Search" from FDLE's website located at http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender

If further information is needed, please contact the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Registration & Compliance Unit at (1-888-357-7332) between the hours of 8am and 6:30pm, Monday through Friday.

Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.
Any person who misuses public records information relating to a sexual predator, as defined in this section, or a sexual offender, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree. Please see 775.21(10)(c) for more information.
 
 


 
           

Addresses:
403 Hootowl Ridge Rd
Satsuma, FL 32189
Putnam COUNTY    Source: Dept. of Corrections
Received: 01/27/2009
Type of Address:
286 Johns Rd
Palatka, FL 32177-8762
Putnam COUNTY

05/22/1997      LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL)      9501799      PUTNAM, FL      Not Available
05/22/1997    LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL IN ATTEMPT)    9600971    PUTNAM, FL    Not Available
05/22/1997    LEWD ASLT/SEX BAT VCTM<16; F.S. 800.04(3) (PRINCIPAL IN ATTEMPT)    9501881    PUTNAM, FL    Not Available


http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=32460


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:17:22 AM
No one is ruled out, whether a family member, or a stranger. If she was indeed with a family member, would they REALLY have the wedding, and not have her there????  To me, this would be pretty cruel....if they were trying to prove something or make someone else suffer.

Just thoughts~


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 09:19:59 AM
Haleigh Cummings: Unwanted Support!

Posted on May 19th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture


Satsuma, Florida- I have said it before and I will say it again, I don’t think that Cindy and George Anthony should be supporting in anyway the search and recovery effort of Haleigh Cummings. They have proven themselves only to be untrustworthy, acting belligerent and out of control at times. They continue to promote the innocence of a murderer and accuse the fantasy Nanny Z. Caylee was never missing she was taken by her mother and murdered. There is no Nanny Z. there never was. Who in there right mind would allow the Anthony’s to be anywhere near Haleigh’s search? It has been reported that Ronald Cummings has spoken against the Anthony’s lending there support to Haleigh’s search. He has asked the public to keep searching for his daughter in a video from his attorney’s office. He remains adamant that he wants help but not from the Anthony’ s. I couldn’t agree more, the Anthony’s and CMAF  don’t need to be anywhere near Haleigh. To me it’s a huge mistake to let them anywhere near this.

Haleigh does not need to be their cause. Their own flesh and blood wasn’t even their cause until she was found dead duct taped in bags on the Chicksaw Trails just a mile or so from their home. Then they decided she was a cause worth spending time on. Carrying out her image in death so that she died for a purpose. Shady at best, and now they want in on my girl. Ronald’s family also stated that they believe that the Anthony’s have there own agenda in this and that the circumstances surrounding Caylee’s murder are not like Haleigh’s disappearance. I agree fully on this, the Anthony’s have done nothing but lie non stop about who killed Caylee. Let me go into that for a moment, before Haleigh I was wrapped around Caylee. I know a bit about this one. The Anthony’s would love for the nation and the world to believe there poor, young, misunderstood, mother of the year daughter (their words not mine) is innocent of any wrong doing. They want us to believe it was the evil, hateful, fantasy Nanny Z. who took Caylee from her mothers arms at a park in exchange for a script to follow for thirty days. When Casey couldn’t follow the script and was out getting tattoos and partying at clubs the fantasy Nanny Z. got angry with Casey and wanted to teach her the ultimate lesson for being a bad mother by killing Caylee, and framing Casey for the murder of her own child. What? Okay, I don’t buy it and I don’t think much of America does either, though I hear that the Anthony’s do have some sympathizers how many I am not sure. I am not one of them. I don’t feel they have any right to be involved in the search for Haleigh. Caylee was murdered by Casey Anthony not the fantasy Nanny Z. no matter how much they try to shove the deceit and lies down our throats I will not swallow.

more...http://www.bloggernews.net/120944



Precisely!
the Anthony's are the biggest hypocrites around!  like Mark Klaas says, the Anthony's need to stay home, keep their mouths shut and just order pizza in...
Mark is a true advocate of missing children...not the Anthony's...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 09:25:25 AM
No one is ruled out, whether a family member, or a stranger. If she was indeed with a family member, would they REALLY have the wedding, and not have her there????  To me, this would be pretty cruel....if they were trying to prove something or make someone else suffer.

Just thoughts~

grama...who knows?
I personally do not think that a family member has Haleigh..it has been too long now...I think that it is a person who was watching the family, perhaps even someone that the family knows...
jmo...
Remember the Shasta Groene case? (((((( chills)))))....that perp was watching Shasta and her family for days before he did his dirty deed...even to having night goggle glasses to watch them at night!
She was found alive after months...
I still think that she is alive...hopefully not with a creep like Shasta was with...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 09:40:08 AM
No one is ruled out, whether a family member, or a stranger. If she was indeed with a family member, would they REALLY have the wedding, and not have her there????  To me, this would be pretty cruel....if they were trying to prove something or make someone else suffer.

Just thoughts~
Good Morning, I agree with your thoughts.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:41:18 AM
No one is ruled out, whether a family member, or a stranger. If she was indeed with a family member, would they REALLY have the wedding, and not have her there????  To me, this would be pretty cruel....if they were trying to prove something or make someone else suffer.

Just thoughts~

Grama, have you read Simon's Blog?  It's filled with clues.. Read the comments...  I believe the gag is up..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 09:41:46 AM
morning sweet Rosie...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 09:44:37 AM
Guess Ron became a MONKEY FOR THE DAY.... RON vs. ANTHONY'S

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/poop.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:48:40 AM
Guess Ron became a MONKEY FOR THE DAY.... RON vs. ANTHONY'S

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh340/JustMe_029/poop.jpg)

Divide and conquer...  its a ploy...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 20, 2009, 09:52:10 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 09:53:30 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?

morning sweet tea woman! just getting ready to pour myself a glass...

no, I had not heard of this kid hanging himself...what was he in jail for?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 20, 2009, 09:54:40 AM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/modlock5.gif)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 09:55:50 AM
morning sweet Rosie...
Good Morning to you cookie. I'm sick to my stomach about little Tori, and still no idea who the little boy in Albuquerque is either.  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 09:56:34 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?
No I didn't, how sad.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 09:58:40 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?

Good Morning Mio.. Doing well this morning?   Sorry, about the boy..  I guess he was in too deep and felt no where to turn.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:00:02 AM
morning sweet Rosie...
Good Morning to you cookie. I'm sick to my stomach about little Tori, and still no idea who the little boy in Albuquerque is either.  ::MonkeyNoNo::

I know rosie...terrible terrible things going on with our little ones...
did you see the artists sketch and the picture of the missing little boy that Nut provided about the little boy? I think that they look a lot alike ..do you?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Fanny Mae on May 20, 2009, 10:00:32 AM

O/T For those that have been wondereing about Searching, I got an e-mail from her today. She was using her neighbors computer and said she has tried to keep up a little with the Haleigh & Caylee thread. She will get a new computer next week. She is ok and wanted me to tell you all Hi and she misses you.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 20, 2009, 10:00:44 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?

morning sweet tea woman! just getting ready to pour myself a glass...

no, I had not heard of this kid hanging himself...what was he in jail for?


morning Cookie,,,,I just read it, now cant find it,,,am still looking for it.
and now that you mention it, it IT TEA time!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:02:47 AM

O/T For those that have been wondereing about Searching, I got an e-mail from her today. She was using her neighbors computer and said she has tried to keep up a little with the Haleigh & Caylee thread. She will get a new computer next week. She is ok and wanted me to tell you all Hi and she misses you.

thank you Fanny! I just asked about her again...
tell her hi and that she is very missed!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 20, 2009, 10:06:06 AM
No one is ruled out, whether a family member, or a stranger. If she was indeed with a family member, would they REALLY have the wedding, and not have her there????  To me, this would be pretty cruel....if they were trying to prove something or make someone else suffer.

Just thoughts~

Grama, have you read Simon's Blog?  It's filled with clues.. Read the comments...  I believe the gag is up..
Any thoughts on what all the " oil " talk is about ?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Fanny Mae on May 20, 2009, 10:07:36 AM

O/T For those that have been wondereing about Searching, I got an e-mail from her today. She was using her neighbors computer and said she has tried to keep up a little with the Haleigh & Caylee thread. She will get a new computer next week. She is ok and wanted me to tell you all Hi and she misses you.

thank you Fanny! I just asked about her again...
tell her hi and that she is very missed!

More OT. Has anyone heard from Brandi?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 10:09:09 AM
Haleigh Cummings: Unwanted Support!

Posted on May 19th, 2009
by Stone in All News, Op-ed, Society and Culture


Satsuma, Florida- I have said it before and I will say it again, I don’t think that Cindy and George Anthony should be supporting in anyway the search and recovery effort of Haleigh Cummings. They have proven themselves only to be untrustworthy, acting belligerent and out of control at times. They continue to promote the innocence of a murderer and accuse the fantasy Nanny Z. Caylee was never missing she was taken by her mother and murdered. There is no Nanny Z. there never was. Who in there right mind would allow the Anthony’s to be anywhere near Haleigh’s search? It has been reported that Ronald Cummings has spoken against the Anthony’s lending there support to Haleigh’s search. He has asked the public to keep searching for his daughter in a video from his attorney’s office. He remains adamant that he wants help but not from the Anthony’ s. I couldn’t agree more, the Anthony’s and CMAF  don’t need to be anywhere near Haleigh. To me it’s a huge mistake to let them anywhere near this.

Haleigh does not need to be their cause. Their own flesh and blood wasn’t even their cause until she was found dead duct taped in bags on the Chicksaw Trails just a mile or so from their home. Then they decided she was a cause worth spending time on. Carrying out her image in death so that she died for a purpose. Shady at best, and now they want in on my girl. Ronald’s family also stated that they believe that the Anthony’s have there own agenda in this and that the circumstances surrounding Caylee’s murder are not like Haleigh’s disappearance. I agree fully on this, the Anthony’s have done nothing but lie non stop about who killed Caylee. Let me go into that for a moment, before Haleigh I was wrapped around Caylee. I know a bit about this one. The Anthony’s would love for the nation and the world to believe there poor, young, misunderstood, mother of the year daughter (their words not mine) is innocent of any wrong doing. They want us to believe it was the evil, hateful, fantasy Nanny Z. who took Caylee from her mothers arms at a park in exchange for a script to follow for thirty days. When Casey couldn’t follow the script and was out getting tattoos and partying at clubs the fantasy Nanny Z. got angry with Casey and wanted to teach her the ultimate lesson for being a bad mother by killing Caylee, and framing Casey for the murder of her own child. What? Okay, I don’t buy it and I don’t think much of America does either, though I hear that the Anthony’s do have some sympathizers how many I am not sure. I am not one of them. I don’t feel they have any right to be involved in the search for Haleigh. Caylee was murdered by Casey Anthony not the fantasy Nanny Z. no matter how much they try to shove the deceit and lies down our throats I will not swallow.

more...http://www.bloggernews.net/120944



Precisely!
the Anthony's are the biggest hypocrites around!  like Mark Klaas says, the Anthony's need to stay home, keep their mouths shut and just order pizza in...
Mark is a true advocate of missing children...not the Anthony's...

Then Ron SHOULD have gone to the one in Leesburg.............shame on him IMO!!!!!!!!1


O/T Chris Coleman has FINALLY been arrested in the murder of his wife and 2 boys, may he rot in h@ll, but not before he gets his "due" in prison.........freak strangled them with a cord while they slept in their beds.............pure POS.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 10:10:55 AM

O/T For those that have been wondereing about Searching, I got an e-mail from her today. She was using her neighbors computer and said she has tried to keep up a little with the Haleigh & Caylee thread. She will get a new computer next week. She is ok and wanted me to tell you all Hi and she misses you.

Thank you Fanny Mae for updating us on Searching.  Please let her know that we are waiting her return and input.

Have a wonderful day!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 10:14:15 AM
Illinois man charged with strangling wife, 2 kids

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iXu_5JgcE5OIJ4jzEnfnUFe8BGZgD989S5GG0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 20, 2009, 10:17:33 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?

Good Morning Mio.. Doing well this morning?   Sorry, about the boy..  I guess he was in too deep and felt no where to turn.

morning mlee, doing fine thanks.. Yeah, not sure what this kid did, but fdle is looking into it.
Article said, boy hung himself, then died at hospital.. Not sure how that happened, usually one dies when you hang yourself, and not wait till you get to hospital.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:20:49 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 10:23:10 AM
No one is ruled out, whether a family member, or a stranger. If she was indeed with a family member, would they REALLY have the wedding, and not have her there????  To me, this would be pretty cruel....if they were trying to prove something or make someone else suffer.

Just thoughts~

Grama, have you read Simon's Blog?  It's filled with clues.. Read the comments...  I believe the gag is up..
Any thoughts on what all the " oil " talk is about ?

two variations..... 1. money, 2. the heat is on...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 10:24:05 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:35:43 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 10:39:22 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I hear ya..........only problem I am at work (trying to jump in when I ca), closing on the house, arranging painter, movers, packing, storage, visiting grandbaby, baseball with son, surfing lessons for a little "me" time and trying to jump in here and there. Would love to be able to read back all the time, but at this juncture in my life, not even remotely possible.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 10:45:05 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I do the same as you cookie...then you can also catch the original posts that have been quoted.  Saves some extra luring on back pages.  Also, sometimes the replies are noted, and no need to search for info. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:45:31 AM
You are a mighty busy girl there IM!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:46:26 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I do the same as you cookie...then you can also catch the original posts that have been quoted.  Saves some extra luring on back pages.  Also, sometimes the replies are noted, and no need to search for info. 

great minds think alike then huh? ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
good morning monkeys,,
did ya;ll read where a 19 yr old kid hanged himself this weekend in satsuma jail?

Good Morning Mio.. Doing well this morning?   Sorry, about the boy..  I guess he was in too deep and felt no where to turn.

morning mlee, doing fine thanks.. Yeah, not sure what this kid did, but fdle is looking into it.
Article said, boy hung himself, then died at hospital.. Not sure how that happened, usually one dies when you hang yourself, and not wait till you get to hospital.

Thanks mioyshi....could you put up a link, I tried to find the article. Thanks,


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 20, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I hear ya..........only problem I am at work (trying to jump in when I ca), closing on the house, arranging painter, movers, packing, storage, visiting grandbaby, baseball with son, surfing lessons for a little "me" time and trying to jump in here and there. Would love to be able to read back all the time, but at this juncture in my life, not even remotely possible.

ya'll sound like how I try and catch up...
and island, are you learning to surf on flat waters there??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: cookie on May 20, 2009, 10:50:22 AM
am going to run out for awhile monkey friends...in case I miss getting to 100 with you all...I will see ya in the new cage..
xxxxxx


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:12:21 AM
You are a mighty busy girl there IM!

 ::MonkeyHaHa:: That I am, but only with blessings!!  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:18:33 AM
Morning all Monkeys in da cage....there are monkeys in da house! ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

on  a sadder note:
in regards to the body being found in a landfill.....wonder if it is that Chad Reynolds???? Regardless, it is someone's loved one.....

JNGA....is Searching still having computer problems??? tell her that she is missed will ya?

Autopsy today for body found in landfill.....confirmed...Adult Male.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/20/autopsy_today_for_body_found_at_landfill.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 11:20:09 AM
Morning all Monkeys in da cage....there are monkeys in da house! ::MonkeyDance:: ::cartwheel::

on  a sadder note:
in regards to the body being found in a landfill.....wonder if it is that Chad Reynolds???? Regardless, it is someone's loved one.....

JNGA....is Searching still having computer problems??? tell her that she is missed will ya?

Autopsy today for body found in landfill.....confirmed...Adult Male.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/5/20/autopsy_today_for_body_found_at_landfill.html

Sounds like someone was resting in a dumpster.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
O/T - Two arrested...FOR MURDER...of Tori Stafford.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/stafford_arrest_090520/20090520?hub=Toronto


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 20, 2009, 11:27:15 AM
sorry, I knew I should have kept that page open.. I can not for the life of me, find that article.  saw man in dump though.....guess I have lost my touch this morning.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:30:45 AM
sorry, I knew I should have kept that page open.. I can not for the life of me, find that article.  saw man in dump though.....guess I have lost my touch this morning.

mioyshi ~  check your history, it will show where you found the article, where you were looking this AM.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
sorry, I knew I should have kept that page open.. I can not for the life of me, find that article.  saw man in dump though.....guess I have lost my touch this morning.

mioyshi ~  check your history, it will show where you found the article, where you were looking this AM.

I was looking for the article about the hanging.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mioyshi on May 20, 2009, 11:53:38 AM
well, duh mio....... thanks grama, not sure where my head is this morning, but history worked, I found it...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30830661

not much to it though I found it interesting still..


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 20, 2009, 11:57:19 AM
Morning Monkeys!!!!  Brought in some coffee, some sweet tea, some donuts, croissants, muffins, some scones for us all...(I must be hungry!)

Finally got caught up from yesterday.  Just thinking out loud here, ok?  No nanners for me, I'm on your side!  I am NOT, repeat NOT a Ronald Cummings fan.  That being said, I don't know if it's the time that has gone by, or postings by monkeys that have brought me to where I am or what, but I find myself trying to be more fair, because we don't know until we know, right?  That being said, I agree with everything MizJay said yesterday.  Casey Anthony is the most hated woman in America right now.  Her parents run a close second for their lies and deceit.  I've listened to the depositions, and I've listened to their holier than thou attitude.  You could not put me in the same room with these people.  I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with them.  And if my daughter were missing, I wouldn't want anything about them to touch my daughter.  N O T H I N G.  This post is terribly long...but I'm just thinking outloud here and wanted to THANK MizJay.

As for the vigil, I'm trying to put myself in the Cummings shoes.  Could I do it?  Could I go to a vigil?  To me, it was very close to a MEMORIAL.  Would I want a part of that?  Nope.  I wouldn't be wanting to think of my daughter as gone. Let's face it, the public backlash has been bad for Ronald Cummings.  Every single thing he does is scrutinized and seen thru a microscope.  I'm thinking if he takes one sock off and takes his pants off and then takes the other sock off, he's being dissected as to why.  Should he have gone to the other vigil?  Probably. 

But who knows what he's feeling right now?  Is he grieving?  Does he have hope? Does he suspect someone? Was it for drugs? Look at this family tree....who could have Haleigh? (Where do you even start on that?) Could an SO have taken her? Is he innocent?  Is he guilty? What does Misty know?  What is Cummings mind frame TODAY?  Not three months ago, not two months ago, TODAY? Is he depressed and not getting out of bed?  Is he fighting with his child bride over every thing?  Is money getting him down because he can't even feed his son right now? (Travis and I are fighting over money, and we've both got jobs! Everyone I know is stressed about bills and money right now)

I'm NO fan of Rons.  But we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Keep George and Cindy away from me.  Do not associate me with them in any way shape or form.  Wonder what George and Cindy are teaching Crystal?  Hmmmmm.......

And how in the world have I missed pictures of Jr's bruises on the back of his legs?

I think Ronald Cummings is young and stupid.  I think he's got anger problems and bad ass problems and whole mess of other problems.  Is this one big act?  We'll find out my monkeys...we WILL find out eventually.  In the meantime, if Misty has had a hand in Haleigh missing, and Ronald didn't know/does find out, I'll bet he takes care her justice before the law does. 



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 11:59:28 AM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:11:10 PM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I hear ya..........only problem I am at work (trying to jump in when I ca), closing on the house, arranging painter, movers, packing, storage, visiting grandbaby, baseball with son, surfing lessons for a little "me" time and trying to jump in here and there. Would love to be able to read back all the time, but at this juncture in my life, not even remotely possible.

ya'll sound like how I try and catch up...
and island, are you learning to surf on flat waters there??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:11:57 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........

I'm here HH~Thanks for the email, that breaks my heart........


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 12:21:21 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........

I'm here HH~Thanks for the email, that breaks my heart........
Love those pictures IM.  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
well, duh mio....... thanks grama, not sure where my head is this morning, but history worked, I found it...http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30830661

not much to it though I found it interesting still..

Thanks Mio....oh we are all still learning....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
O/T - Two arrested...FOR MURDER...of Tori Stafford.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/stafford_arrest_090520/20090520?hub=Toronto
terrible, terrible what's wrong with people?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
O/T - Two arrested...FOR MURDER...of Tori Stafford.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/stafford_arrest_090520/20090520?hub=Toronto
terrible, terrible what's wrong with people?
I ask myself this everyday, and get no answer. And now they are offering this woman somekind of deal, here's my deal, throw her in jail and toss the key away.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: alagary on May 20, 2009, 12:36:01 PM
IM , in alabama we call that a hurricane .


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I hear ya..........only problem I am at work (trying to jump in when I ca), closing on the house, arranging painter, movers, packing, storage, visiting grandbaby, baseball with son, surfing lessons for a little "me" time and trying to jump in here and there. Would love to be able to read back all the time, but at this juncture in my life, not even remotely possible.

ya'll sound like how I try and catch up...
and island, are you learning to surf on flat waters there??
I love your view IM!!!!! so much for flat waters huh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 12:40:58 PM
YW   Island...........breaks my heart to!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
O/T - Two arrested...FOR MURDER...of Tori Stafford.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/stafford_arrest_090520/20090520?hub=Toronto
terrible, terrible what's wrong with people?
I ask myself this everyday, and get no answer. And now they are offering this woman somekind of deal, here's my deal, throw her in jail and toss the key away.
there's a press conference at 3pm.... I hope we get some good news of Haleigh today! T.J. Hart said yesterday there maybe something to report on today.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 12:42:06 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........

I'm here HH~Thanks for the email, that breaks my heart........
will you please share??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:42:24 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........

I'm here HH~Thanks for the email, that breaks my heart........
Love those pictures IM.  ::MonkeyAngel::

Thanks Rosie~those aren't the good ones, just some to show our water has some size to it!!!! It was 3 1/2 -5ft waves this weekend and last yr we had 25 ft waves before Ike, and even today when I left for work at 7:20 am the surfers were out becasue of the huge waves. This photo is my favorite one though for the waves anyway..........I use it as my avi with a tribute to Haleigh.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:44:18 PM
IM , in alabama we call that a hurricane .

 ::MonkeyTongue:: LOL, so far none of those yet........and hopefully after Ivan hit yrs ago we can go a spell without one.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 12:45:38 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........

I'm here HH~Thanks for the email, that breaks my heart........
will you please share??
I will, Myself and Island and some people from where I work has gotten together a little money to send to Crystal for her own use and I  asked Kim how she was doing and today I recieved and answer from her and Crystal isnt doing good and I shared my e-mail with Island, if the rest of you would like to see it I will post it for everyone!@


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:47:05 PM
IM...in case you missed my previous posts, yes, Ron should have gone to the other vigil.

Sorry, just catching up:) and way behind and missed it.........IIRC, there were many planned - even one in Oregon.

IM...if you are anything like me, when I am real behind, I start from the last page and work my way back,,,not the best way of doing it perhaps but I figure that I will hear the latest news first! tee hee!

I hear ya..........only problem I am at work (trying to jump in when I ca), closing on the house, arranging painter, movers, packing, storage, visiting grandbaby, baseball with son, surfing lessons for a little "me" time and trying to jump in here and there. Would love to be able to read back all the time, but at this juncture in my life, not even remotely possible.

ya'll sound like how I try and catch up...
and island, are you learning to surf on flat waters there??
I love your view IM!!!!! so much for flat waters huh

Thanks, like I said~I am very blessed! But, realistically we do have flat water in the dead heat of the summer, and that's great for my son to surf on.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 12:54:19 PM
Morning Monkeys!!!!  Brought in some coffee, some sweet tea, some donuts, croissants, muffins, some scones for us all...(I must be hungry!)

Finally got caught up from yesterday.  Just thinking out loud here, ok?  No nanners for me, I'm on your side!  I am NOT, repeat NOT a Ronald Cummings fan.  That being said, I don't know if it's the time that has gone by, or postings by monkeys that have brought me to where I am or what, but I find myself trying to be more fair, because we don't know until we know, right?  That being said, I agree with everything MizJay said yesterday.  Casey Anthony is the most hated woman in America right now.  Her parents run a close second for their lies and deceit.  I've listened to the depositions, and I've listened to their holier than thou attitude.  You could not put me in the same room with these people.  I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with them.  And if my daughter were missing, I wouldn't want anything about them to touch my daughter.  N O T H I N G.  This post is terribly long...but I'm just thinking outloud here and wanted to THANK MizJay.

As for the vigil, I'm trying to put myself in the Cummings shoes.  Could I do it?  Could I go to a vigil?  To me, it was very close to a MEMORIAL.  Would I want a part of that?  Nope.  I wouldn't be wanting to think of my daughter as gone. Let's face it, the public backlash has been bad for Ronald Cummings.  Every single thing he does is scrutinized and seen thru a microscope.  I'm thinking if he takes one sock off and takes his pants off and then takes the other sock off, he's being dissected as to why.  Should he have gone to the other vigil?  Probably. 

But who knows what he's feeling right now?  Is he grieving?  Does he have hope? Does he suspect someone? Was it for drugs? Look at this family tree....who could have Haleigh? (Where do you even start on that?) Could an SO have taken her? Is he innocent?  Is he guilty? What does Misty know?  What is Cummings mind frame TODAY?  Not three months ago, not two months ago, TODAY? Is he depressed and not getting out of bed?  Is he fighting with his child bride over every thing?  Is money getting him down because he can't even feed his son right now? (Travis and I are fighting over money, and we've both got jobs! Everyone I know is stressed about bills and money right now)

I'm NO fan of Rons.  But we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Keep George and Cindy away from me.  Do not associate me with them in any way shape or form.  Wonder what George and Cindy are teaching Crystal?  Hmmmmm.......

And how in the world have I missed pictures of Jr's bruises on the back of his legs?

I think Ronald Cummings is young and stupid.  I think he's got anger problems and bad ass problems and whole mess of other problems.  Is this one big act?  We'll find out my monkeys...we WILL find out eventually.  In the meantime, if Misty has had a hand in Haleigh missing, and Ronald didn't know/does find out, I'll bet he takes care her justice before the law does. 



Good post Thunder Bunny. 

Thats the way it is done in this country, Innocent until proven Guilty.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 12:59:12 PM
Morning Monkeys!!!!  Brought in some coffee, some sweet tea, some donuts, croissants, muffins, some scones for us all...(I must be hungry!)

Finally got caught up from yesterday.  Just thinking out loud here, ok?  No nanners for me, I'm on your side!  I am NOT, repeat NOT a Ronald Cummings fan.  That being said, I don't know if it's the time that has gone by, or postings by monkeys that have brought me to where I am or what, but I find myself trying to be more fair, because we don't know until we know, right?  That being said, I agree with everything MizJay said yesterday.  Casey Anthony is the most hated woman in America right now.  Her parents run a close second for their lies and deceit.  I've listened to the depositions, and I've listened to their holier than thou attitude.  You could not put me in the same room with these people.  I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with them.  And if my daughter were missing, I wouldn't want anything about them to touch my daughter.  N O T H I N G.  This post is terribly long...but I'm just thinking outloud here and wanted to THANK MizJay.

As for the vigil, I'm trying to put myself in the Cummings shoes.  Could I do it?  Could I go to a vigil?  To me, it was very close to a MEMORIAL.  Would I want a part of that?  Nope.  I wouldn't be wanting to think of my daughter as gone. Let's face it, the public backlash has been bad for Ronald Cummings.  Every single thing he does is scrutinized and seen thru a microscope.  I'm thinking if he takes one sock off and takes his pants off and then takes the other sock off, he's being dissected as to why.  Should he have gone to the other vigil?  Probably. 

But who knows what he's feeling right now?  Is he grieving?  Does he have hope? Does he suspect someone? Was it for drugs? Look at this family tree....who could have Haleigh? (Where do you even start on that?) Could an SO have taken her? Is he innocent?  Is he guilty? What does Misty know?  What is Cummings mind frame TODAY?  Not three months ago, not two months ago, TODAY? Is he depressed and not getting out of bed?  Is he fighting with his child bride over every thing?  Is money getting him down because he can't even feed his son right now? (Travis and I are fighting over money, and we've both got jobs! Everyone I know is stressed about bills and money right now)

I'm NO fan of Rons.  But we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Keep George and Cindy away from me.  Do not associate me with them in any way shape or form.  Wonder what George and Cindy are teaching Crystal?  Hmmmmm.......

And how in the world have I missed pictures of Jr's bruises on the back of his legs?

I think Ronald Cummings is young and stupid.  I think he's got anger problems and bad ass problems and whole mess of other problems.  Is this one big act?  We'll find out my monkeys...we WILL find out eventually.  In the meantime, if Misty has had a hand in Haleigh missing, and Ronald didn't know/does find out, I'll bet he takes care her justice before the law does. 



Good post Thunder Bunny. 

Thats the way it is done in this country, Innocent until proven Guilty.

Good point, but that is in a court of law, not opinions.............just like when I heard what I thought about Chris Coleman and the murder of his kids and wife.......in my gut I knew he killed them, and even told my office I'd eat my shoe if he wasn't arrested. So, while RC and Misty are innocent until proven guilty, to me they are more than guilty of negligence and Ron guilty of leaving the most precious cargo in the hands of a druggie coming of a 3 day bender. JMO


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 01:02:16 PM



The Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The Florida Department of Law Enforcement mistakenly sent out e-mails notifying all 11,000 people following sex offenders on the state's registry that the people they were following had been removed from the list.

FDLE's Web site allows citizens, including victims of sexual assault, to track the movements of offenders who have to register their home addresses with the state.

FDLE spokeswoman Kristen Perezluha said Wednesday that the incident was "a glitch of the e-mail system" and did not affect the registry, which tracks approximately 40,000 offenders. Perezluha said FDLE has sent out new e-mails to let people know that the notices, which were sent out Saturday, were a mistake.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1057330.html


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 20, 2009, 01:13:08 PM
IM, first:  BEAUTIFUL pictures!  What I wouldn't do to be there right now!  Second, yes, yes, YES!  Guilty of those things.  I agree.  And although I'm mad as hell at Misty for not telling what she knows....I'm mad at Ronald for leaving those children with her after a 3 day bender, for sticking up for her and not telling what he knows too.  AND FOR MARRYING the last person to see Haleigh!!  But my jury is out as far as him KNOWING.  I can't figure out WHAT he knows. I'm so torn about the who, the what, the how and the why. :( 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 01:22:13 PM
IM, first:  BEAUTIFUL pictures!  What I wouldn't do to be there right now!  Second, yes, yes, YES!  Guilty of those things.  I agree.  And although I'm mad as hell at Misty for not telling what she knows....I'm mad at Ronald for leaving those children with her after a 3 day bender, for sticking up for her and not telling what he knows too.  AND FOR MARRYING the last person to see Haleigh!!  But my jury is out as far as him KNOWING.  I can't figure out
WHAT he knows. I'm so torn about the who, the what, the how and the why. :( 

Thanks Thunder......     
I completely agree !!! My feelings on the marriage are JMO, but I think she "has something she was holding over him...........he really didn't look to happy to be getting married!                                                                                   


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 01:27:47 PM
Morning Monkeys!!!!  Brought in some coffee, some sweet tea, some donuts, croissants, muffins, some scones for us all...(I must be hungry!)

Finally got caught up from yesterday.  Just thinking out loud here, ok?  No nanners for me, I'm on your side!  I am NOT, repeat NOT a Ronald Cummings fan.  That being said, I don't know if it's the time that has gone by, or postings by monkeys that have brought me to where I am or what, but I find myself trying to be more fair, because we don't know until we know, right?  That being said, I agree with everything MizJay said yesterday.  Casey Anthony is the most hated woman in America right now.  Her parents run a close second for their lies and deceit.  I've listened to the depositions, and I've listened to their holier than thou attitude.  You could not put me in the same room with these people.  I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with them.  And if my daughter were missing, I wouldn't want anything about them to touch my daughter.  N O T H I N G.  This post is terribly long...but I'm just thinking outloud here and wanted to THANK MizJay.

As for the vigil, I'm trying to put myself in the Cummings shoes.  Could I do it?  Could I go to a vigil?  To me, it was very close to a MEMORIAL.  Would I want a part of that?  Nope.  I wouldn't be wanting to think of my daughter as gone. Let's face it, the public backlash has been bad for Ronald Cummings.  Every single thing he does is scrutinized and seen thru a microscope.  I'm thinking if he takes one sock off and takes his pants off and then takes the other sock off, he's being dissected as to why.  Should he have gone to the other vigil?  Probably. 

But who knows what he's feeling right now?  Is he grieving?  Does he have hope? Does he suspect someone? Was it for drugs? Look at this family tree....who could have Haleigh? (Where do you even start on that?) Could an SO have taken her? Is he innocent?  Is he guilty? What does Misty know?  What is Cummings mind frame TODAY?  Not three months ago, not two months ago, TODAY? Is he depressed and not getting out of bed?  Is he fighting with his child bride over every thing?  Is money getting him down because he can't even feed his son right now? (Travis and I are fighting over money, and we've both got jobs! Everyone I know is stressed about bills and money right now)

I'm NO fan of Rons.  But we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Keep George and Cindy away from me.  Do not associate me with them in any way shape or form.  Wonder what George and Cindy are teaching Crystal?  Hmmmmm.......

And how in the world have I missed pictures of Jr's bruises on the back of his legs?

I think Ronald Cummings is young and stupid.  I think he's got anger problems and bad ass problems and whole mess of other problems.  Is this one big act?  We'll find out my monkeys...we WILL find out eventually.  In the meantime, if Misty has had a hand in Haleigh missing, and Ronald didn't know/does find out, I'll bet he takes care her justice before the law does. 



Good post Thunder Bunny. 

Thats the way it is done in this country, Innocent until proven Guilty.

Good point, but that is in a court of law, not opinions.............just like when I heard what I thought about Chris Coleman and the murder of his kids and wife.......in my gut I knew he killed them, and even told my office I'd eat my shoe if he wasn't arrested. So, while RC and Misty are innocent until proven guilty, to me they are more than guilty of negligence and Ron guilty of leaving the most precious cargo in the hands of a druggie coming of a 3 day bender. JMO

IM, imho, guilt goes back on both sides of Haleighs families, it did not just start with Ronald and Misty from what we assume from news articles, tv reports and googling. 

And you know what they say regarding opinions.

As far as Chris Coleman, sometimes we get it right and at other times we do not.

I remember how Jessica Lunsford's grandfather was being discussed in the media.
Gary Condit, although he was guilty of cheating on his wife, he was not guilty of the disappearance and murder of Chandra Levy. 

As many times as we could be right, we could also be wrong.

It is just too bad that Haleigh has had to go through or pay the price for the multitude of  mistakes made by multiple people in both sides of her families.

(http://itsamysterytome.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/haleigh-cummings-21.png)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 01:31:29 PM
Good Morning Monkeys,  hope everyone is having a good one so far..................



Island, are you here?     If so I am sending you mail, a message from Kim P........

I'm here HH~Thanks for the email, that breaks my heart........
will you please share??
I will, Myself and Island and some people from where I work has gotten together a little money to send to Crystal for her own use and I  asked Kim how she was doing and today I recieved and answer from her and Crystal isnt doing good and I shared my e-mail with Island, if the rest of you would like to see it I will post it for everyone!@
I would really like to read it... I can only imagine how Crystal is doing, it's got to be so hard to go to sleep and get up everyday with a child missing and a child not in your custody even after all this mess and a baby who needs you constantly... I pray for her all the time!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 20, 2009, 01:32:13 PM
Muffy.....I'm back.....who's locking up??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 01:34:02 PM
Muffy.....I'm back.....who's locking up??

I can use the practice.   ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Thunder Bunny on May 20, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
Exactly IM, he didn't look happy to be getting married.  Even thru the pain of Haleigh missing, would he have at least smiled a little?  Why did he run into the courthouse without Misty, leaving her behind?  Why was he not walking beside her, holding her hand? Maybe she's got something on him.  Maybe her parents were going to send her away and he wanted to keep her close.   Maybe maybe maybe.  <woof>  I'm headed to work monkeys.  Have a great day   ::MonkeyCool::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Nut44x4 on May 20, 2009, 01:37:43 PM
Muffy.....I'm back.....who's locking up??

I can use the practice.   ::MonkeyHaHa::
::MonkeyHaHa::
OKKKKKKK


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 01:42:34 PM
Ya'll can keep posting.  This thread won't lock until 100, when I do the thread change.   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Heart on May 20, 2009, 01:43:42 PM
3 children found locked in flea-infested room

The mother and her live-in boyfriend are being held on allegations of aggravated child abuse.


By Lise Fisher
Staff Writer

Published: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 p.m.

Two Columbia County residents are being held on allegations of aggravated child abuse after a family friend found three children at their home Saturday covered with flea bites and locked in a bedroom.

The children's mother, Christina D. Ramirez, 22, and her boyfriend, Joseph Michael Brenton, 28, were booked into the Columbia County jail after an adult who had stopped to visit the home heard noises coming from a back bedroom and spotted the children through a window, Columbia County Sheriff's Office spokesman Sgt. Edward Seifert said.

The children told the visitor they were locked in the room and hadn't eaten since the night before.

Seifert said the youngsters, a 7-year-old girl, 5-year-old boy and a 2-year-old girl, were disheveled and covered in flea bites. The air conditioning had been turned off, according to the Sheriff's Office.

The three were trapped in the room, which had been padlocked from the outside. After officers were contacted, they also found that two of the children appeared to have signs of past physical abuse with contusions and bruises that were healing, Seifert said.

Deputy Darrell Clay worked to track down the children's parents and returned to the home on Southwest Zierki Drive in central Columbia County in the evening to find Ramirez inside and a 1-year-old girl in a car outside, Seifert said. The car was not running and the windows had been left up.

Seifert said Ramirez told the deputy she had just returned home, Seifert said.

In Saturday's incident, it appeared Ramirez and Brenton, who also lives at the home, had left the three children alone for at least several hours, Seifert said.

Officers aren't sure where the couple were all day, Seifert said. Ramirez told investigators she had taken Brenton to work that day.

Investigators had not confirmed Brenton's relationship to the children except that they call him their father, officers said.

The Florida Department of Children and Families now is involved in the case, Seifert said. The agency was providing medical care for the children, who were placed with DCF, and will participate in determining a long-term parenting plan for them, Seifert said.

He credited the family friend who reported the incident, removed the children from the home and cared for them until officers arrived.

"If he hadn't intervened, this could have been a different story," Seifert said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090520/ARTICLES/905201011/1002?Title=3-children-found-locked-in-flea-infested-room


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
O/T - Two arrested...FOR MURDER...of Tori Stafford.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/stafford_arrest_090520/20090520?hub=Toronto
terrible, terrible what's wrong with people?
I ask myself this everyday, and get no answer. And now they are offering this woman somekind of deal, here's my deal, throw her in jail and toss the key away.
there's a press conference at 3pm.... I hope we get some good news of Haleigh today! T.J. Hart said yesterday there maybe something to report on today.

Thanks for the heads up do you have a link for the news conference...tia


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 01:48:02 PM
3 children found locked in flea-infested room

The mother and her live-in boyfriend are being held on allegations of aggravated child abuse.


By Lise Fisher
Staff Writer

Published: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 p.m.

Two Columbia County residents are being held on allegations of aggravated child abuse after a family friend found three children at their home Saturday covered with flea bites and locked in a bedroom.

The children's mother, Christina D. Ramirez, 22, and her boyfriend, Joseph Michael Brenton, 28, were booked into the Columbia County jail after an adult who had stopped to visit the home heard noises coming from a back bedroom and spotted the children through a window, Columbia County Sheriff's Office spokesman Sgt. Edward Seifert said.

The children told the visitor they were locked in the room and hadn't eaten since the night before.

Seifert said the youngsters, a 7-year-old girl, 5-year-old boy and a 2-year-old girl, were disheveled and covered in flea bites. The air conditioning had been turned off, according to the Sheriff's Office.

The three were trapped in the room, which had been padlocked from the outside. After officers were contacted, they also found that two of the children appeared to have signs of past physical abuse with contusions and bruises that were healing, Seifert said.

Deputy Darrell Clay worked to track down the children's parents and returned to the home on Southwest Zierki Drive in central Columbia County in the evening to find Ramirez inside and a 1-year-old girl in a car outside, Seifert said. The car was not running and the windows had been left up.

Seifert said Ramirez told the deputy she had just returned home, Seifert said.

In Saturday's incident, it appeared Ramirez and Brenton, who also lives at the home, had left the three children alone for at least several hours, Seifert said.

Officers aren't sure where the couple were all day, Seifert said. Ramirez told investigators she had taken Brenton to work that day.

Investigators had not confirmed Brenton's relationship to the children except that they call him their father, officers said.

The Florida Department of Children and Families now is involved in the case, Seifert said. The agency was providing medical care for the children, who were placed with DCF, and will participate in determining a long-term parenting plan for them, Seifert said.

He credited the family friend who reported the incident, removed the children from the home and cared for them until officers arrived.

"If he hadn't intervened, this could have been a different story," Seifert said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090520/ARTICLES/905201011/1002?Title=3-children-found-locked-in-flea-infested-room
and again I ask~what is wrong with people??


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 01:49:04 PM
There are 20 posts per pg., and this is the 11th post on pg. 98, so that leaves 9 more posts to 99.  Then there are the 20 posts on pg. 99, plus at least 1 post to be on pg. 100.    So, monkeys on this thread, you have at least 30 more posts before a clean cage.   ::MonkeyRoll::   ::MonkeyHaHa::



Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 01:51:13 PM
O/T - Two arrested...FOR MURDER...of Tori Stafford.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090520/stafford_arrest_090520/20090520?hub=Toronto
terrible, terrible what's wrong with people?
I ask myself this everyday, and get no answer. And now they are offering this woman somekind of deal, here's my deal, throw her in jail and toss the key away.
there's a press conference at 3pm.... I hope we get some good news of Haleigh today! T.J. Hart said yesterday there maybe something to report on today.

Thanks for the heads up do you have a link for the news conference...tia
no not yet since I only read about it in this article, am thinking CTV will have it live or recapped at least


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 01:55:26 PM
Tori Stafford thread at Scared Monkeys:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4858.msg813690#new

There is info and updates, and some monkeys standing by.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 01:56:20 PM
o/t    I keep getting knocked off ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::Is anyone else having this problem or is just my computer? ::MonkeyRoll:: ::\ ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused:::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 01:59:49 PM
o/t    I keep getting knocked off ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::Is anyone else having this problem or is just my computer? ::MonkeyRoll:: ::\ ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused:::

I'm having problems too.  It makes for interesting times as I line up to do the thread change   ::MonkeyConfused:: 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: islandmonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:03:17 PM
Morning Monkeys!!!!  Brought in some coffee, some sweet tea, some donuts, croissants, muffins, some scones for us all...(I must be hungry!)

Finally got caught up from yesterday.  Just thinking out loud here, ok?  No nanners for me, I'm on your side!  I am NOT, repeat NOT a Ronald Cummings fan.  That being said, I don't know if it's the time that has gone by, or postings by monkeys that have brought me to where I am or what, but I find myself trying to be more fair, because we don't know until we know, right?  That being said, I agree with everything MizJay said yesterday.  Casey Anthony is the most hated woman in America right now.  Her parents run a close second for their lies and deceit.  I've listened to the depositions, and I've listened to their holier than thou attitude.  You could not put me in the same room with these people.  I wouldn't want ANYTHING to do with them.  And if my daughter were missing, I wouldn't want anything about them to touch my daughter.  N O T H I N G.  This post is terribly long...but I'm just thinking outloud here and wanted to THANK MizJay.

As for the vigil, I'm trying to put myself in the Cummings shoes.  Could I do it?  Could I go to a vigil?  To me, it was very close to a MEMORIAL.  Would I want a part of that?  Nope.  I wouldn't be wanting to think of my daughter as gone. Let's face it, the public backlash has been bad for Ronald Cummings.  Every single thing he does is scrutinized and seen thru a microscope.  I'm thinking if he takes one sock off and takes his pants off and then takes the other sock off, he's being dissected as to why.  Should he have gone to the other vigil?  Probably. 

But who knows what he's feeling right now?  Is he grieving?  Does he have hope? Does he suspect someone? Was it for drugs? Look at this family tree....who could have Haleigh? (Where do you even start on that?) Could an SO have taken her? Is he innocent?  Is he guilty? What does Misty know?  What is Cummings mind frame TODAY?  Not three months ago, not two months ago, TODAY? Is he depressed and not getting out of bed?  Is he fighting with his child bride over every thing?  Is money getting him down because he can't even feed his son right now? (Travis and I are fighting over money, and we've both got jobs! Everyone I know is stressed about bills and money right now)

I'm NO fan of Rons.  But we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.  Keep George and Cindy away from me.  Do not associate me with them in any way shape or form.  Wonder what George and Cindy are teaching Crystal?  Hmmmmm.......

And how in the world have I missed pictures of Jr's bruises on the back of his legs?

I think Ronald Cummings is young and stupid.  I think he's got anger problems and bad ass problems and whole mess of other problems.  Is this one big act?  We'll find out my monkeys...we WILL find out eventually.  In the meantime, if Misty has had a hand in Haleigh missing, and Ronald didn't know/does find out, I'll bet he takes care her justice before the law does. 



Good post Thunder Bunny. 

Thats the way it is done in this country, Innocent until proven Guilty.

Good point, but that is in a court of law, not opinions.............just like when I heard what I thought about Chris Coleman and the murder of his kids and wife.......in my gut I knew he killed them, and even told my office I'd eat my shoe if he wasn't arrested. So, while RC and Misty are innocent until proven guilty, to me they are more than guilty of negligence and Ron guilty of leaving the most precious cargo in the hands of a druggie coming of a 3 day bender. JMO

IM, imho, guilt goes back on both sides of Haleighs families, it did not just start with Ronald and Misty from what we assume from news articles, tv reports and googling. 

And you know what they say regarding opinions.

As far as Chris Coleman, sometimes we get it right and at other times we do not.

I remember how Jessica Lunsford's grandfather was being discussed in the media.
Gary Condit, although he was guilty of cheating on his wife, he was not guilty of the disappearance and murder of Chandra Levy. 

As many times as we could be right, we could also be wrong.

It is just too bad that Haleigh has had to go through or pay the price for the multitude of  mistakes made by multiple people in both sides of her families.

(http://itsamysterytome.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/haleigh-cummings-21.png)

agreed, there were many mistakes made on both sides.......that being said Haleigh disappeared on HIS watch and not Crystal's, so my suspicions lie there within the inner circle of Ron/Misty and associate.

By the way, I don't remember Jessica's grandfather coming under scrutiny, and I never doubted Mark Lunsford's sorrow as he truly seemed distraught and it showed as genuine, IMO-Ron's just doesn't come across that way.


Gotta Run. Just found out baby Eli has a portion of his lung that is collapsed and it is critical, so pls once again say some prayers for this little baby that he can fight this also, and make it...........Thanks  IM


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 02:06:24 PM
My thoughts and prayers with baby Elijah  ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: no rose colored glasses on May 20, 2009, 02:07:52 PM
What a horrible story you just posted Heart. Why don't people just leave their kids somewhere if they don't want them, anything besides torture and murder. A church, a hospital I don't know  ::MonkeyNoNo::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:08:03 PM
islandmonkey~  I'm praying for little Eli to be strong and continue to be the fighter he's been.  My thoughts and prayers for Eli, you and your family.  God bless.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:17:41 PM
HURRY UP   MONKEYS...THE DOOR WILL SOON CLOSE.

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:19:59 PM
To our Monkey Friends that have been MIA....Hope to see you Brandi, Searching and others in the new cage...

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Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:22:49 PM
HURRY UP   MONKEYS...THE DOOR WILL SOON CLOSE.

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 ::MonkeyHaHa:: I love it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:24:50 PM
A thought to ponder.....

IF....Haleigh is indeed staying with someone, and this was all a get for the money....what is the future going to look like???

What kind of life would she have.....knowing that possibly her family sent her away.

Who do you think would get custody of Haleigh after she would be reunited with her own family???

If either side is responsible, and hope to heck not.....I personally feel that THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE HALEIGH....AS A CUSTODIAL PARENT.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:27:14 PM
o/t    I keep getting knocked off ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::Is anyone else having this problem or is just my computer? ::MonkeyRoll:: ::\ ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused:::

I'm having problems too.  It makes for interesting times as I line up to do the thread change   ::MonkeyConfused:: 
I had problems earlier but they have all stopped! here's hoping it stops for everyone else :smt023


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:27:44 PM
Thanks Muffy....just so this doesn't drag on..............

(http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq212/teamagnew/myphoto12.jpg)


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:29:10 PM
HH did you post that email? did I miss it?


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:29:13 PM
o/t    I keep getting knocked off ::MonkeyWaa:: ::MonkeyWaa::Is anyone else having this problem or is just my computer? ::MonkeyRoll:: ::\ ::MonkeyEek:: ::MonkeyConfused:::

I'm having problems too.  It makes for interesting times as I line up to do the thread change   ::MonkeyConfused:: 
I had problems earlier but they have all stopped! here's hoping it stops for everyone else :smt023

I haven't experienced any problems at all today....not even one lock out.....


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:29:36 PM
Thanks Gram  ::MonkeyCool::  It's not the size of the post per pg, but the number.  Magic number is 20  ::MonkeyHaHa::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
can someone please give me a motivational speech to go out and mow the side yard... I've done two yards in two days (one I used the riding mower mostly) I don't know why I'm dragging this out...ugh


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:32:17 PM
A thought to ponder.....

IF....Haleigh is indeed staying with someone, and this was all a get for the money....what is the future going to look like???

What kind of life would she have.....knowing that possibly her family sent her away.

Who do you think would get custody of Haleigh after she would be reunited with her own family???

If either side is responsible, and hope to heck not.....I personally feel that THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE HALEIGH....AS A CUSTODIAL PARENT.

My thoughts also Grama, I on the fence if any of them should have her....she will need special nurturing after such a tragedy in her life are either parent qualified...I dont think so,both parents need a education in parenting. jmo


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 02:35:01 PM
HH did you post that email? did I miss it?
Not yet, waiting on the new cage, and and OK to do so from some people!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:36:14 PM
can someone please give me a motivational speech to go out and mow the side yard... I've done two yards in two days (one I used the riding mower mostly) I don't know why I'm dragging this out...ugh

I'll start a procrastinator's thread.  Later, though. 


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:36:23 PM
Sad if that is the case, that both parents need education of parenting.....then we have the others...

Grandparents and the rest of he in-laws, etc....

Hard to believe that they all follow the same....pattern.

Everyone appears to be looking out for  -  #2.....not #1 HALEIGH   ::MonkeyAngel::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mymonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:36:26 PM
can someone please give me a motivational speech to go out and mow the side yard... I've done two yards in two days (one I used the riding mower mostly) I don't know why I'm dragging this out...ugh

LOL ::MonkeyLaugh::It could be called to much puter time ::MonkeyShocked::I know I have a problem ::MonkeyDevil::

I am looking for a step 12 step program for computer abuse. ::MonkeyLaugh::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:36:36 PM
A thought to ponder.....

IF....Haleigh is indeed staying with someone, and this was all a get for the money....what is the future going to look like???

What kind of life would she have.....knowing that possibly her family sent her away.

Who do you think would get custody of Haleigh after she would be reunited with her own family???

If either side is responsible, and hope to heck not.....I personally feel that THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE HALEIGH....AS A CUSTODIAL PARENT.

My thoughts also Grama, I on the fence if any of them should have her....she will need special nurturing after such a tragedy in her life are either parent qualified...I dont think so,both parents need a education in parenting. jmo
It appears Crystal may be more open and able to be counseled in good parenting, ongoing counseling and dealing with the trauma Haleigh has gone through, JMO and online observation... I am really rooting for her!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:37:19 PM
HH did you post that email? did I miss it?
Not yet, waiting on the new cage, and and OK to do so from some people!
thanks!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: GramaMonkey on May 20, 2009, 02:37:24 PM
Thanks Gram  ::MonkeyCool::  It's not the size of the post per pg, but the number.  Magic number is 20  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yea, he kinda got away on me before I was able to...tone him down a bit.


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:37:31 PM
maureen ~  I'll start a procrastinator's thread.  Maybe that will help.  Later, though.   ::MonkeyWink::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 02:39:02 PM
Wooooo Hooooooo   Last page in this Book!!!!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: mlee on May 20, 2009, 02:39:08 PM
Thanks Gram  ::MonkeyCool::  It's not the size of the post per pg, but the number.  Magic number is 20  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yea, he kinda got away on me before I was able to...tone him down a bit.

Oh come on Grama, you never get carried away.. Always there to keep the rest of us under control...


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: maureen on May 20, 2009, 02:39:16 PM
can someone please give me a motivational speech to go out and mow the side yard... I've done two yards in two days (one I used the riding mower mostly) I don't know why I'm dragging this out...ugh

I'll start a procrastinator's thread.  Later, though. 
that'd be quite helpful MuffyBee!!! thanks in advance for, you know, when you get around to it!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:39:35 PM
Thanks Gram  ::MonkeyCool::  It's not the size of the post per pg, but the number.  Magic number is 20  ::MonkeyHaHa::

Yea, he kinda got away on me before I was able to...tone him down a bit.

Monkeys tend to do that   ::MonkeyHaHa::  The size wasn't a problem at this point in the thread  ::MonkeyDevil::


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: MuffyBee on May 20, 2009, 02:40:33 PM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/MOD/MODLOCK.gif)

Please move to Haleigh Marie Cummings #15


http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5032.0


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: Patricia Mocha Latte on May 20, 2009, 02:41:25 PM
Good afternoon Moneky friends  ::MonkeyAngel::

Today is a great day for Haleigh to be found!


Title: Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #14
Post by: higherhopes on May 20, 2009, 02:42:04 PM
They were just talking about the Vigil on HLN  a while ago, and of course you know they had to mention the Anthony's being there...........just once I wish they would show up for something and nobody would say a word about them, act like they didnt even exist..........Maybe then they would get the message!