Caylee Marie Anthony- MURDER TRIAL- DAY 18 - 6/14/11

[slowsouthernrain]

So so true Anna.

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is anyone the least bit worried?

I mean without knowing what you know about this case and hearing what you have so far sitting on the jury could you vote guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Here are the jury instruction for first degree murder

http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/JN/jnnews01.nsf/8c9f13012b96736985256aa900624829/9829d8cfcf983df58525775a00745ee9!OpenDocument

I have never been worried about this case. She will be convicted and it does not matter to me if she gets the DP or LWOP. I would prefer LWOP just because I will enjoy knowing she will be there all her life. She is a psychopath and needs to be removed from society as quickly as possible. I am just grateful she has been in jail all this time because I fell sure she would have killed again. She seems to take great pleasure in seeing others in pain.

[New Monkey]

I wonder why Casey just didn't put Caylee in the pool to drown and then she could have feigned horror that her child had drowned in an accidental drowning..Saying that she slipped out of the house when Casey was in the shower/bathroom.  then she could have called 911 and she would still be out going to Fusion and hosing around like she wanted to do.
Cindy and George would have been of course upset but would have forgiven her because it was after all, an accident..

Exactly ... I still think she was gonna call Cindy and tell her she was moving with the guy in California say that was Caylees dad , be in California for a few motnhs and come up with some story that Caylee died and she had her cremated , and it was to late for Cindy to see her.

I have also wondered why Casey didn't drown Caylee and then say it was an accident, which has led me to ponder that maybe she "accidentally" killed her with the chloroform.    I really don't see the state getting the DP in this case.  Although, the duct tape throws a monkey wrench into the sitch.  There was no need for duct tape if Caylee accidentally died.

I also think the defense has just totally blown this case.  KISS - keep it simple stupid would have worked much better in this case.  Casey was on the phone, Caylee got into the backyard and pool, Caylee drowned, Casey panicked, put the body in the car, then dumped her all because her mother was always after her because she was a pitiful mother.  Casey put the duct tape on her to keep the bugs out of her beloved child's mouth and nose.  But no, they had to drag George and molestation into it.  They blew it.  Fortunately.  None of that story even comes close to making sense.

I think because it didn't fit in with her plans, she had no time to grieve for Caylee, she just wanted to be rid of her and her plan worked for 31 days, unfortunately sociopaths can't think much past the moment they are living in so they just continue to lie until backed into a corner then find another lie until their gig is come to a dead end.

Casey Just Snowballed outta control! was no accident IMO

I tend to agree with you, but think the defense would've gotten alot further with the jury if they'd have put forth a story that was even remotely plausible.  But they didn't.  If I'm on the jury I'm insulted with the crap they're spewing and expecting me to believe.

[New Monkey]

I think Casey thinks her ace in the hole for her defense team is Krystal Holloway for one thing. I think Bozo is really excited to bring her forward to repeat her info but she sounds like a flake. She said they never were intimate and her story of what George said about it being an accident, snowballing out of control, etc just seems to be what Bozo wants. I am still listening to it but wonder what anyone else thinks about her stories.

She looks like a dude in drag in that white bathing suit

  Way behind here but I honestly thought it was Lee Anthony in drag. 

I thought it was George Anthony in drag.

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is anyone the least bit worried?

I mean without knowing what you know about this case and hearing what you have so far sitting on the jury could you vote guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Here are the jury instruction for first degree murder

http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/JN/jnnews01.nsf/8c9f13012b96736985256aa900624829/9829d8cfcf983df58525775a00745ee9!OpenDocument

I have never been worried about this case. She will be convicted and it does not matter to me if she gets the DP or LWOP. I would prefer LWOP just because I will enjoy knowing she will be there all her life. She is a psychopath and needs to be removed from society as quickly as possible. I am just grateful she has been in jail all this time because I fell sure she would have killed again. She seems to take great pleasure in seeing others in pain.

Keep this in mind West...........In order to convict of First Degree Felony Murder, it is not necessary for the State to prove that the defendant had a premeditated design or intent to kill.

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Lyon is making me sick on Dr Drew right now.  She has her Polyannaish voice and batty eyelashes and is trying to act feminine.  Her voice is the same forced sweetness she used when she said all those bad things about "blue hairs" on juries and female prosecutors with strap-ons.  The dufense must really be feeling the struggle to get her out on all the shows like Liposuction Linda.

totally agree with you - I muted it and turned on Dana's radio show

I just dont like dr Drew or trust his opinions

completely agree with you - he can't come up with a psych reason for Casey and that's odd considering he's got a Ph.D.

He said the other night he considered her a psychopath.

[cubbeegirl]

Quick.... I need the link for Dana..just got back from store...damn Casey...we will all starve around here...

[StarMonkey]

I wonder why Casey just didn't put Caylee in the pool to drown and then she could have feigned horror that her child had drowned in an accidental drowning..Saying that she slipped out of the house when Casey was in the shower/bathroom.  then she could have called 911 and she would still be out going to Fusion and hosing around like she wanted to do.
Cindy and George would have been of course upset but would have forgiven her because it was after all, an accident..

Exactly ... I still think she was gonna call Cindy and tell her she was moving with the guy in California say that was Caylees dad , be in California for a few motnhs and come up with some story that Caylee died and she had her cremated , and it was to late for Cindy to see her.

I have also wondered why Casey didn't drown Caylee and then say it was an accident, which has led me to ponder that maybe she "accidentally" killed her with the chloroform.    I really don't see the state getting the DP in this case.  Although, the duct tape throws a monkey wrench into the sitch.  There was no need for duct tape if Caylee accidentally died.

I also think the defense has just totally blown this case.  KISS - keep it simple stupid would have worked much better in this case.  Casey was on the phone, Caylee got into the backyard and pool, Caylee drowned, Casey panicked, put the body in the car, then dumped her all because her mother was always after her because she was a pitiful mother.  Casey put the duct tape on her to keep the bugs out of her beloved child's mouth and nose.  But no, they had to drag George and molestation into it.  They blew it.  Fortunately.  None of that story even comes close to making sense.

I think because it didn't fit in with her plans, she had no time to grieve for Caylee, she just wanted to be rid of her and her plan worked for 31 days, unfortunately sociopaths can't think much past the moment they are living in so they just continue to lie until backed into a corner then find another lie until their gig is come to a dead end.

Casey Just Snowballed outta control! was no accident IMO

I tend to agree with you, but think the defense would've gotten alot further with the jury if they'd have put forth a story that was even remotely plausible.  But they didn't.  If I'm on the jury I'm insulted with the crap they're spewing and expecting me to believe.

yea me too- I would be insulted. and I am ! haha
They really did pull out the wrong opening to put in any reasonable doubt for a hung jury- it will not happen. The defense are a bunch of fools! everyone knows it!

[San]

Quick.... I need the link for Dana..just got back from store...damn Casey...we will all starve around here...

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

[cubbeegirl]

Jeez... I missed it... I will catch the podcast later though...Casey is controlling my life.....
I am running crazy trying to keep it all together and it is slowly falling apart....but don't worry.... I am not gonna kill anybody....lol

[slowsouthernrain]

Great show!!  Wonderful questions Dana, fantastic guests.    ::justice2NJ::

[ZooMomology]

is anyone the least bit worried?

I mean without knowing what you know about this case and hearing what you have so far sitting on the jury could you vote guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Here are the jury instruction for first degree murder

http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/JN/jnnews01.nsf/8c9f13012b96736985256aa900624829/9829d8cfcf983df58525775a00745ee9!OpenDocument

I have never been worried about this case. She will be convicted and it does not matter to me if she gets the DP or LWOP. I would prefer LWOP just because I will enjoy knowing she will be there all her life. She is a psychopath and needs to be removed from society as quickly as possible. I am just grateful she has been in jail all this time because I fell sure she would have killed again. She seems to take great pleasure in seeing others in pain.

LWoP is fine for me too.  Imagine in 15 years when the state actually started to get ready to execute her, all the websites that will open up poor casey being innocent, how her parents made her kill caylee, how she had no other way out, how she had some kind of mental illness, it would make me sick.  LWOP is fine with me. 

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Well, I took a break and came back to the lovely pictures of Casey fist pumping with a "yes!" victory look on her face which just makes the top of my head want to blow off!  

I don't see George's  lady friend's name on the defense witness list.  Am I missing that?  

How did we get the transcript for the sidebar where JP chided Colonel Sanders?  Can we see all the sidebar transcripts?

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2011/0614/28230782.pdf


There ya go.

Thanks ZooMomology

Janet

WHOAAAAAAAAAAA............Bumbles got his butt handed to him real fast and it is time he gets into this trial or out of it sounds like to me.

[cubbeegirl]

Oh....and thanks San......
 

[Scatty]

OT but curious:
Is Dana Pretzer Canadian? I thought I detected a slight Canadian accent.

[cubbeegirl]

is anyone the least bit worried?

I mean without knowing what you know about this case and hearing what you have so far sitting on the jury could you vote guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?

Here are the jury instruction for first degree murder

http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/JN/jnnews01.nsf/8c9f13012b96736985256aa900624829/9829d8cfcf983df58525775a00745ee9!OpenDocument

I have never been worried about this case. She will be convicted and it does not matter to me if she gets the DP or LWOP. I would prefer LWOP just because I will enjoy knowing she will be there all her life. She is a psychopath and needs to be removed from society as quickly as possible. I am just grateful she has been in jail all this time because I fell sure she would have killed again. She seems to take great pleasure in seeing others in pain.

LWoP is fine for me too.  Imagine in 15 years when the state actually started to get ready to execute her, all the websites that will open up poor casey being innocent, how her parents made her kill caylee, how she had no other way out, how she had some kind of mental illness, it would make me sick.  LWOP is fine with me. 

Exactly!!!! She will fade into oblivion...hehe...

[karenmamo]

Andrea Lyon is on Dr. Drew.  Is it my imagination, or does her tongue look like a snake's tongue?  Oh geez, I must need a break.

And did you by any chance notice all the eye blinking...at times?  Other times none at all. 

[Gypsy DD]

Lyon is making me sick on Dr Drew right now.  She has her Polyannaish voice and batty eyelashes and is trying to act feminine.  Her voice is the same forced sweetness she used when she said all those bad things about "blue hairs" on juries and female prosecutors with strap-ons.  The dufense must really be feeling the struggle to get her out on all the shows like Liposuction Linda.

Public opinion means nothing in this case, because the public doesn't get a vote.  But if they joined the losing team they want their time in the limelight and their 15 minutes.  So the public will still think they are expert legal minds and continue to watch them and read their books....you couldn't pay me to do so.

Since they all have their own agendas..Lyons with her rescind the DP work, LKB with her needing to pay the bills and keep up with hubby who is always a guest on many popular shows..the list continues..Geraldo..anyone who can jump on that bandwagon has and by gosh they are going to ride it to the end. 

After the trial they'll all be on again with more nastiness to sprew..eerr..their opinions..which they are hoping to take to the bank with their books and articles and appearances ..just disgusting is what they are..they could care less about Casey who they defended, care less about victim rights for Caylee and care less about our legal system..they are involved in personally saving themselves from the inevitable question of ..why did you join this ridiculous defense team in the first place?  Duh..money, fame, book deals and publicity.

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Anyone with children would know that 24 months and 3Ts are almost identical in size except the 24 months is wider to accommodate diapers or pull ups.

EXCELLENT observation and very true.  Also...anyone who's ever had a little girl knows how stubborn they can be when told they've outgrown a favorite item of clothing and they will INSIST on wearing it anyway.

24 mo =2t and some 2t are Big like a 3t especially if it has elastic.
People on jury with kids will prob know this..

I don't know where Baez thinks he's going with this except to imply that only a man (George) would put clothes that were too small on a child, ridiculous. George's description does not match what Caylee was last wearing because he doesn't have a clue, Casey's police statement however, says she was wearing a pink top and jean shorts. If he and Casey were in cohoots, as Baez would like us all to believe then I would think they would have both been on the same page as to what she was wearing.

I just looked back though the state's evidence and the shorts were 3T - so where is this 24 months coming from? More lies from the defense?

[flamom]

Lyon is making me sick on Dr Drew right now.  She has her Polyannaish voice and batty eyelashes and is trying to act feminine.  Her voice is the same forced sweetness she used when she said all those bad things about "blue hairs" on juries and female prosecutors with strap-ons.  The dufense must really be feeling the struggle to get her out on all the shows like Liposuction Linda.

totally agree with you - I muted it and turned on Dana's radio show

I just dont like dr Drew or trust his opinions

completely agree with you - he can't come up with a psych reason for Casey and that's odd considering he's got a Ph.D.

David Drew Pinsky is a board-certified internist and addiction medicine specialist. Pinsky is also Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California, former Medical Director for the Department of Chemical Dependency Services at Las Encinas Hospital in Pasadena, California, staff member at Huntington Memorial Hospital, and a private practitioner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Pinsky
There is no psych reason for KC.. She has a personality disorder and is a psycho/sociopath and he has stated that possibilityon his show
.. He wants Justice for Caylee. He had AL just to be "fair"