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mustiquemama
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RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5
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June 16, 2005, 12:52:28 PM »
Debatl, I don't know how it started, but it keeps coming up. I first heard about it from Arubans and an Alabama journalist posted about it in either the ScaredMonkeys or Riehl World comments last week.
Here's an article from The Clinton News --
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Natalee Holloway and her family moved from Clinton when she was in the seventh grade.
http://www.clintonnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050609/NEWS/506090353/1001
And, I need to learn to spell Costa Rica!
And learn to use exclamation marks!
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dragonfly
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Re: What about this???
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June 16, 2005, 12:53:16 PM »
Quote from: "Compananzi"
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OK I heard earlier on that the car they all were in had more miles than just from point A (c&c) to Pt. B Lighthouse to Pt. C HI??????? What if they did take her to the caves or someother spot. Secluded of course.
Hmm that would be assuming that each time you would reset the trip odometer no?[/quote]
I hadn't heard anything about mileage. Just that Joran's story didn't make geographical or logical sense because of the destinations and where they were located in respect to his home. THAT of course was when he was saying they took him home and then the brothers took her to the hotel. BUT, I have to remember that before that story he said they all took her back to the hotel and a black security guard approached her. BUT, both of those stories were before this latest story (if true) that the brothers dropped he and Nat at the beach by the Marriot and she walked to her hotel and he walked home...hmmmm...if it walks like a duck...
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Sleeks
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Re: What about this???
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June 16, 2005, 12:53:25 PM »
Quote from: "Compananzi"
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OK I heard earlier on that the car they all were in had more miles than just from point A (c&c) to Pt. B Lighthouse to Pt. C HI??????? What if they did take her to the caves or someother spot. Secluded of course.
Hmm that would be assuming that each time you would reset the trip odometer no?[/quote]
Well last time I was in Aruba (awhile ago)I remember the side of the island with the Natural Bridge, Pools, and caves - that was quite a ways away. So my point being - the original item I heard was that the mileage once checked out was actually more (much I think) than that of having just drove from CNC's to lighthouse back to HI?
I just dont know what to think other than I really (sad to say) think this ball is really in Joran's court. He is the one with the romantic link. Not saying that the bros are heros by any means. But I believe they probably did leave him alone with her. They may have gone back to drive him home or who knows bring him more drugs???????
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ChinbeardXIV
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June 16, 2005, 12:54:20 PM »
Quote from: "Professor"
To Sleek: My guess would be that they took Natalee to the southern end of the island, far away from where the previous searches were held. There was a report earlier this AM that Joran made a call from his cell phone from the southern end of the island around 6:30 am* on the morning Natalee disappeared. So, the 3 might have worked all night to dispose of the body.
* Yahoo Natalee Holloway group site.
I agree with you, professor! I've said all along that there's a little truth in every lie. I think her bod's in the southern/southeastern part of Aruba.
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Compananzi
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June 16, 2005, 12:55:08 PM »
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I am 5'4 and I walk a mile in about 10 minutes.[/quote]
I dunno, I don't think people in the island like to walk, do they still park on the walkways in Aruba? Also Does Joran tend to walk to the casinos when he want to play????
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friend of monkeys
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June 16, 2005, 12:56:07 PM »
Quote from: "wwizard"
Quote from: "Keeper"
Quote from: "wwizard"
they are PROS and no exactly watt theyre doin. they will walk cause we aint got no body. lying, while immoral, may not b illegal.
I think there's merritt in your theory. However I would hardly give the scum credit for being pros. At 17 how much experience could one have and a pro would have had his story ready to go and be sticking to it. Not changing it as these fellas have. I also don't feel a pro would have chosen an individual that was part of large group.
The voice of one crying out in the wilderness
I keep reposting this so everyone sees it. it is completely plausible and in my mind very, very likely. it fits all the "evidence" better than n e thing else Ive herd. it fits watt we no bout the area. it fits watts likely to happen next. BTW, these forums and blogs is where u learn, not by watching CNNABCBSFOX. it just fits.
aruba has jerked my chain 4 the last time.......NH is probably alive (if
she's minding).....but she ain't n or around aruba....what seems like random events is really a well oiled machine and it is ABOVE THE LAW...this is white slavery territory we're n....no "rules".....I no the game now....and we ALL need to deal w/ it.......if there was no internet I wood no only watt the mainstream media tells me (laughable) and b OK......but I no more now....
the scam is this....the dutchguy is the setup man. he takes the "mark" and
plays kissy kissy wink wink all week and plants the "trust me" hook.....he
sets em up and the brothers carry em 2 the boat......after they seperate the "mark" from "the herd" and away we go......no body ever found means no murder conviction.....they do their "time" and are released........what a gig......foolproof......I feel for the people caught up in this twisted vortex....the ONLY way her parents will ever see her is 2 pay 2 have her back and it's very slim odds because that wood b an admission of guilt by the pirates of the caribbean.....u just don't kill women like NH....unless u can throw away $20,000, $50,000, $100,000.........way 2 valuable......the abducted women cooperate or die....real simple....what wood u do in their place? b honest
w/ yourself......I'm through checking EVERY headline cause it don't
matter.....I now no how it's gonna play now.....the "student"
brothers......."students" of watt and tell me about their mainland
connections.....the 3 will b released.....b honest agin.......no
evidence.....if this disturbs u, I apologize, it's just the reality of the
situation......hug ur fam, kids, friends 2 day because ur free and not in a nightmare like this......watt did NH ever do to warrant her punishment....the trio is a lot more scared of their BOSS than the law......all the king horses and all the kings men......be well
NH has been SOLD. Don't shoot the messenger. The truth is ugly and it hurts. We must deal with it though as adults and stop pretending it doesn't happen. There's BIG money playing the game. Here's an example:
You buy a blonde women (popular where everyone is dark headed) for $100,000. She could easily make you $50,000 a year for say 20 years. After 2 years she's paid for and pure profit. $50,000 x 20 years = $1,000,000.
We lead sheltered lives in the US. Painfull to think about but it happens
ALL the time. She's NOT on Aruba, look all you want. She left Aruba on a boat within an hour of leaving the bar. This is the ONLY scenario that fits all the "evidence". She was stalked from day 1, nothing accidental about it. Time will bear this out.
SO WIZ
DADDY IS BTWN ROCK/HARD PLACE???
HE WANTS HIS SON OUT OF JAIL
BUT AT WHAT COST/COST 2 WHOM???
GOTTA GO 2 WORK
U KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
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mbhs05
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RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5
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June 16, 2005, 12:56:17 PM »
Yeah the running away rumor is FALSE. And she moved here in 8th grade. See my earlier post about the remark about her family.
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Sleeks
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RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5
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June 16, 2005, 12:57:30 PM »
Quote from: "ChinbeardXIV"
Quote from: "Professor"
To Sleek: My guess would be that they took Natalee to the southern end of the island, far away from where the previous searches were held. There was a report earlier this AM that Joran made a call from his cell phone from the southern end of the island around 6:30 am* on the morning Natalee disappeared. So, the 3 might have worked all night to dispose of the body.
* Yahoo Natalee Holloway group site.
I agree with you, professor! I've said all along that there's a little truth in every lie. I think her bod's in the southern/southeastern part of Aruba.
Hi - well Like I said I haven't been to Aruba in years but the side Im referring to IS the opposite end of the HI side. I stayed at LaCabana and that was located south of the highrises. The area I am talking is even further south (or at least further away from the Lighthouse).
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June 16, 2005, 12:57:32 PM »
FOX reporting that a friend of one of the suspects is "speaking out" about his friend's temper. Don't know if it's coming up right now...commercial.
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da wench
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June 16, 2005, 12:57:39 PM »
Although the slave trade theory is possible, I really think NH's death was an accidental overdose. I think these boys have used the drug on other girls before (probably their last night in Aruba) but this time things got out of control. They've buried her somewhere or fed her to the sharks. I hope it's the latter and they find her body. There will be DNA in her to show all 3 boys were involved.
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Professor
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June 16, 2005, 12:57:56 PM »
Here is a recap of the Most Believable Scenario (MBS). Joran van der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalmoe fed Natalie Holloway a date rape drug just before she left Carlos and Charlie's. To her friends, she appeared sober, but within minutes she was incapacitated and was shoved into a car and told that she was being driven back to her hotel. She was driven to a remote location, far from the Marriott and far from the Holiday Inn, and raped by all 3. Under the MBS, the Kalmoe brothers were in on the crime, since there would be no other way for Joran to get a ride home and it was over 2 miles to his house. This also explains why all 3 lied about the two security guards. Sometime during the rape, something bad happened, and Natalie was killed. Her body was disposed of, perhaps with the help of others. Perhaps Joran's family. But she was not disposed of at the site where Deepak claimed he dropped off Joran. That was just a smoke screen. Now, 17 days have passed. Valuable forensic evidence has either been disposed of or degraded, and all 3 suspects are beginning to feel that they can "beat the rap," if they can just maintain a consistent story. It may be full of inconsistencies, but, at this point, the prosecution will have a hard time proving that a crime has been committed.
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RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5
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June 16, 2005, 12:58:33 PM »
Anyone hearin anymore credible news? Bein at work is makin it hard to keep up with all your posts...i go off to do work for 5 minutes and its already gone through 5 pages..can someone update me with some stuff
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iquitos
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8th or 7th
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June 16, 2005, 12:58:49 PM »
Which is it 8th or 7th? Did jug and Mrs. move when they each divorced and take Natalee with them?
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June 16, 2005, 01:00:44 PM »
nothing on the radio.
Quote from: "Kelly"
Anyone hearin anymore credible news? Bein at work is makin it hard to keep up with all your posts...i go off to do work for 5 minutes and its already gone through 5 pages..can someone update me with some stuff
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Another K in Texas
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My guess might be the summer between 7th and 8th. That is when most parents make moves so the kids don't have to change in the middle of the year. So last year in old school would be 7th, first in new school 8th.
Just a guess.
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White slavery theory and premeditation see far-fetched. Why? Because Joran and the Kalpoe brothers had a high profile and Carlos and Charlie's. If they intended to kidnap Natalee and to sell her into white slavery, they would have snatched her when she was separated from the group. Besides, why would they need to kidnap a rich girl from the USA, when there were plenty of pretty native girls around? Why get the FBI involved? That would be the last thing a white slavery ring would want to do.
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RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5
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Who gives a crap when Natalee moved in with whomever? She did not run away!
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Re: 8th or 7th
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Which is it 8th or 7th? Did jug and Mrs. move when they each divorced and take Natalee with them?
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RUMORS OF BREAKING NEWS # 5
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June 16, 2005, 01:01:41 PM »
Good afternoon all!
I know you hate hearing this, but what's the latest? I soooooo need to get work done today instead of reading/responding to SM (I'm addicted!), but I need my fix for the day.
I did glance at a couple of posts. Brenda said something about the phone call being made June 1, but Natalee disappeared May 30 and I thought the 6:30 am call was from that morning of the 30th.
Also, I agree Professor. I said last night if the 3 boys said she was on the northwest part of the island, that meant she's on the southeast. I think whatever they say, go 180 degrees -- the other way. Or go inland where there are less people than on the coast.
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Although the slave trade theory is possible, I really think NH's death was an accidental overdose. I think these boys have used the drug on other girls before (probably their last night in Aruba) but this time things got out of control. They've buried her somewhere or fed her to the sharks. I hope it's the latter and they find her body. There will be DNA in her to show all 3 boys were involved.
The scenario of a Watery disposal is probable, but that would entail some kind of boat to get far away enough... or knowledge of strong current to carry the body. Did any search get done at the public Dump? I remember it being near the airport area.
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