Lively Case Discussion #597 4/7 - 4/9/2007

[sb]

The AMW link has some good things there. Read the PDF transcript of the Dutch re-enactment program, there are a couple of tidbits in there I hadn't seen before.

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Paulus in the casino hitting on Natalee

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/eeeeet.png

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Joran Hittin On A Car

http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/?action=view&current=HANDCUFFSTRIKE.flv

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[klaasend]

Lala's I can't find that entire video, but I do have this screen shot if it helps you:

[Sam]

Hi Monkeys,
Thanks for asking about me San. Angie did know I was gone.

I am back. Went to Florida to Disney for 50th anniversary.Also went to Gulf coast and to the Atlantic coast.It was very hot. Came home to freezing cold. Got home yesterday.Been depressed ever since. One of my good friends was found dead on Wednesday night. Either a stroke or brain aneurismn. She had had surgery on the aneurismn twice but was still having headaches. Other than that she seemed fine not someone we expected to die.She was evidently dead for a day before she was found.
The funny thing is there was a message on our answering machine from her to my hubby on Tuesday morning. Evidently there was a storm while we were gone. She was asking him to look at a gutter that had came off her garage.I suggested to hubby that he wait until today to call her. We had been home about 15 minutes when a friend stopped by and he told us about Betsy. She evidently died Tuesday night. Son in China, daughter in law in Paris.Other son in Arizona. So darn sad.Her hubby had died around 20 years ago.

 I did read some here to catch up. Interesting about the picture and the photoshopping.Now on Madison Whatleys 402, I think it is confusing. She says she was one of Natalees roomates.Then she ask someone to throw away her toothbrush. She says in the trash in her adjoining room. Is she meaning Trey Merrills room?  Am I reading it wrong?

Klaas I think it is good for us to see the statements. These kids have already lived through hell with all that has been said about them. At least this way it is their own words. JMHO

Sam

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Regarding the 302's and bringing them here. It just happens to be alot of work.  I'll see what I can do.

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SAM - so sorry about your friend  

[Sam]

Thanks Klaas.

Klaas for some reason I thought we had most of those 302s in the important case documents thread.

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Thanks Klaas.

Klaas for some reason I thought we had most of those 302s in the important case documents thread.

No just Lee's and Madison's

[San]

Hi Monkeys,
Thanks for asking about me San. Angie did know I was gone.

I am back. Went to Florida to Disney for 50th anniversary.Also went to Gulf coast and to the Atlantic coast.It was very hot. Came home to freezing cold. Got home yesterday.Been depressed ever since. One of my good friends was found dead on Wednesday night. Either a stroke or brain aneurismn. She had had surgery on the aneurismn twice but was still having headaches. Other than that she seemed fine not someone we expected to die.She was evidently dead for a day before she was found.
The funny thing is there was a message on our answering machine from her to my hubby on Tuesday morning. Evidently there was a storm while we were gone. She was asking him to look at a gutter that had came off her garage.I suggested to hubby that he wait until today to call her. We had been home about 15 minutes when a friend stopped by and he told us about Betsy. She evidently died Tuesday night. Son in China, daughter in law in Paris.Other son in Arizona. So darn sad.Her hubby had died around 20 years ago.

 I did read some here to catch up. Interesting about the picture and the photoshopping.Now on Madison Whatleys 402, I think it is confusing. She says she was one of Natalees roomates.Then she ask someone to throw away her toothbrush. She says in the trash in her adjoining room. Is she meaning Trey Merrills room?  Am I reading it wrong?

Klaas I think it is good for us to see the statements. These kids have already lived through hell with all that has been said about them. At least this way it is their own words. JMHO

Sam

So sorry to hear about your friend Sam.  I didn't know Angie knew where you were.

[Sam]

Yes San, I sent Angie an email to let her know. I know how we all worry when we do not see a Monkey for awhile. I am still worrying about our little Monkey Memphis.

I keep wishing someone had her/his email and could find out if  Memphis is ok.

[San]

Yes San, I sent Angie an email to let her know. I know how we all worry when we do not see a Monkey for awhile. I am still worrying about our little Monkey Memphis.

I keep wishing someone had her/his email and could find out if  Memphis is ok.

Sam, Memphis posted a few days ago.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=133827&highlight=#133827

[justinsmama]

Sam~ I am so sorry about Betsy.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Lala's I can't find that entire video, but I do have this screen shot if it helps you:

Natalee's forearm looks larger in this photo than I would think it should but that's just my observation at this moment...My first reaction though is she's being friendly, but her body language is not saying she feels safe.  She seems to be leaning away from PVDS............jmho....if so, it may have NOT been a comfortable situation...the 'may not' comment is an understatement even though she seems to be smiling....if that makes sense to some.  

Have a few pages to catch up on, and may not be logged on much longer...Happy Easter to those still here.

[Lala'sMom]

Klaas
Don't worry about the 302s I will find them elsewhere.  You have too much to do as it is.

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2NJ - one of the arms in that photo is not Natalee's.  We are only seeing Natalee's complete left arm, the right arm you are seeing belongs to the person sitting next to Natalee.

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Klaas
Don't worry about the 302s I will find them elsewhere.  You have too much to do as it is.

Lala's - they are all at BFN and Scrux and Refugees.  Personally, I felt it was wrong when they were posted at BFN but what do I know.  I thought they could be an important part of the case that maybe shouldn't be posted in a forum.  Now that they are everywhere it really doesn't matter.  I'll bring them over one at a time as I have the time to.  Right now we have 2 of them, Lee's and Madisons.

[robots]

Lala's I can't find that entire video, but I do have this screen shot if it helps you:

simple as PIE for ALE to come out and say "DEFINITIVLY that it is NOT
the RAPIST paulus"

they have not
therefore it IS  

[Sam]

Bleached if you are still around, At BFN the affidavidts and 302s are in Legal documents. Most of them really do not say much. JMHO but there are 3 pages worth of legal documents.