Haleigh Marie Cummings #10 3/29/09 - 4/04/09

[Heart]

i think this is ron site

http://findhaleighnow.com/Index.html

Thanks starcat29

[Jerseygirl345]

Supposedly on Art Harris's site, there should be something interesting on it, regarding Greg, and other info, either this afternoon or this evening. So, who knows?

Thanks!!  Did you notice that the 'player' is back posting??

Oh I sure did 

Since he responded that Ron used to live right next door to him, when someone asked of Ron's prev. address, waiting for him to divuldge Ron's addy.
Then we can pinpoint Mr. Player.

Ron's previous address..map..

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=202+green+lane,+Putnam,florida&daddr=Sharon+Ave,+Putnam,+Florida+32189&hl=en&geocode=&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=29.557297,-81.650461&sspn=0.061073,0.109863&ie=UTF8&ll=29.557332,-81.651249&spn=0.061073,0.109863&t=h&z=13


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=202+green+lane,+Putnam,florida&daddr=111+Shoreline+Ave,+Putnam,+Florida+32189&hl=en&geocode=&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=29.574651,-81.642838&sspn=0.061062,0.109863&ie=UTF8&ll=29.573308,-81.642838&spn=0.061063,0.109863&t=h&z=13

[Wyks]

maybe Crystal has a haunted look in her eyes because her 5 yr old daughter is missing?

I think that we have all been touched by some sort of abuse in our lives...some hide it better...some claim abuse when there has been none...some men look like abusers and they are teddy bears...some are wonderful in public and turn into raging maniacs behind closed doors...I don't think that anyone can judge if someone is an abuser by their looks....jmo

Identifying an abuser has nothing to do with looks and everything to do with demeanor and having intimidating tendencies.   I have seen professional men who are clean cut and wear ties to work every day abuse their wives.  I have also seen men who live in mobile homes and wear tank tops and have tattoos abuse their wives.    I have also seen a man who looked like a biker who was abused by his 100# wife to an extent that he sought shelter.

There is more to abuse than physical.   Mental and emotional abuse destroy the spirit.  That is what I saw in Crystal.  Had nothing at all to do with Haleigh missing.  That is a completely different dynamic.

I work with about three dozen women per year when they are first brought to the shelter.  About two thirds of them have the same look and demeanor as Crystal does.      The other third have horrible stories about husbands that turn out to be bullshit.

Crystal is believeable.  I have talked with others about this case who are trained in identifying and treating abuse.  Not only volunteers and mental health workers, but also law enforcement and  prosecutors.  Not in an official capacity but because it's relatively local and because we all share a passion for helping the abused and stopping the abusers.

We have all come to the same consensus.    You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.   

So in spite of your defense of Ron, I'll choose to follow the training and the opinions of educated and highly trained professionals on this one.

And as much as I dislike Misty's role in all of this, I am genuinely afraid for her.   If Ron is not complicit in whatever happened to Haleigh,  I believe that when facts begin to emerge he will either hurt or kill Misty.

I agree with you Alvilda, 100%.  The majority of my clients over the past 20 years have been abuse survivors. 

It's true that not *all* abuse survivors have this look and demeanor, and not *all* abusers appear at first glance to be abusive.   

However, in this case, Crystal definitely does have the 'haunted' look and demeanor of an abuse survivor. 

That is an observation of Crystal only, and doesn't mean to me that she did or didn't have anything to do with the disappearance of Haleigh.  It simply means to me that she has already had a hard road with Ron/family. 

All IMO. 

[no rose colored glasses]

Thank-you Jerseygirl 

[no rose colored glasses]

Alvilda and Wyks, I have really no experience in what you fine ladies do as far as dealing with abuse victims, and I commend you on that. I just go on gut feelings, have for a very long time, and especially with following as many cases and trials that I have followed. For me watching and hearing Ron, I see him for what he is, it is obvious to me he is an arrogant, angry and abusive individual, this is my opinion. Crystal has made many mistakes herself, who hasn't I suppose, I just don't see her as having anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. Should she have done things differently, sure, but I should have done a lot of things differently as well. IMO, Ron and Misty know what happened to Haleigh.

[krimekat]

That website needs to be proofread, apparently.

It says:
"Please keep Haleigh and her family in your prayers!

Haleigh was last seen between the hours of 8pm and 10pm at her Satsuma home, located in the Hermitt's Cove section of Putnam County. She is described as a white female, approximately 39 pounds and 3 foot 9 inches tall. She is five years old, has blond hair and blue eyes. Crimestoppers of Northeast Florida has announced an increased reward associated with Haleigh's case. If you desire, you can remain completely anonymous and still collect your reward."

I do believe she has brown eyes, not blue.

So right!!! Check out Crystal's site: http://www.haleighbug.com/

"Haleigh is five (5) years old, has blonde wavy hair, and pretty brown eyes.  She is approximately three (3) feet tall, and weighs 39 pounds.  She was taken while fast asleep in her bed in Satsuma, Florida on February 10, 2009.  She may have been wearing a pink shirt."

And we now know the pink shirt was found by Misty . . .

[Alvilda]

That website needs to be proofread, apparently.

It says:
"Please keep Haleigh and her family in your prayers!

Haleigh was last seen between the hours of 8pm and 10pm at her Satsuma home, located in the Hermitt's Cove section of Putnam County. She is described as a white female, approximately 39 pounds and 3 foot 9 inches tall. She is five years old, has blond hair and blue eyes. Crimestoppers of Northeast Florida has announced an increased reward associated with Haleigh's case. If you desire, you can remain completely anonymous and still collect your reward."

I do believe she has brown eyes, not blue.

So right!!! Check out Crystal's site: http://www.haleighbug.com/

"Haleigh is five (5) years old, has blonde wavy hair, and pretty brown eyes.  She is approximately three (3) feet tall, and weighs 39 pounds.  She was taken while fast asleep in her bed in Satsuma, Florida on February 10, 2009.  She may have been wearing a pink shirt."

And we now know the pink shirt was found by Misty . . .

I think Scared Monkeys needs to diversify and start a fact checking service.   Golly..........

[Kat_Gram]

I don't know what else Crystal could do to find Haleigh other than what she is doing.
with her HaleighBug Centre where ppl could come in and talk or maybe think of something. If LE can't get the damn truth out of Misty, how is anyone else going to get it ?
..
Ms. Neves and that entire clan put ( at least in public ) their Good Housekeeping Stamp of Approval on Misty. I think that was a big mistake. They should put Ron in one jail cell and Misty in another and keep them in there until the truth seeps out. Going to NY, having a wedding and a celebration was so wrong. Misty has had no hard pressure put upon her feeble mind, she has been having a whale of a time recently. Didn't she just get up and walk out on one of her interviews ? Yes, she wants Haleigh found real baaad.
..
Misty has had time to have her little story / act to become hard wired into her brain
and she has had the support of the Cummings clan while this is happening.
 

[Wyks]

Alvilda and Wyks, I have really no experience in what you fine ladies do as far as dealing with abuse victims, and I commend you on that. I just go on gut feelings, have for a very long time, and especially with following as many cases and trials that I have followed. For me watching and hearing Ron, I see him for what he is, it is obvious to me he is an arrogant, angry and abusive individual, this is my opinion. Crystal has made many mistakes herself, who hasn't I suppose, I just don't see her as having anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. Should she have done things differently, sure, but I should have done a lot of things differently as well. IMO, Ron and Misty know what happened to Haleigh.

Thank you, NoRose, and I agree with you!  Trusting in our gut feelings is important, as they rarely lead us astray.  IMO
 

[Scuterputer]

That website needs to be proofread, apparently.

It says:
"Please keep Haleigh and her family in your prayers!

Haleigh was last seen between the hours of 8pm and 10pm at her Satsuma home, located in the Hermitt's Cove section of Putnam County. She is described as a white female, approximately 39 pounds and 3 foot 9 inches tall. She is five years old, has blond hair and blue eyes. Crimestoppers of Northeast Florida has announced an increased reward associated with Haleigh's case. If you desire, you can remain completely anonymous and still collect your reward."

I do believe she has brown eyes, not blue.

So right!!! Check out Crystal's site: http://www.haleighbug.com/

"Haleigh is five (5) years old, has blonde wavy hair, and pretty brown eyes.  She is approximately three (3) feet tall, and weighs 39 pounds.  She was taken while fast asleep in her bed in Satsuma, Florida on February 10, 2009.  She may have been wearing a pink shirt."

And we now know the pink shirt was found by Misty . . .

Whats so bad is below the description on Ron's site, the picture clearly shows her with brown eyes. 

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maybe Crystal has a haunted look in her eyes because her 5 yr old daughter is missing?

I think that we have all been touched by some sort of abuse in our lives...some hide it better...some claim abuse when there has been none...some men look like abusers and they are teddy bears...some are wonderful in public and turn into raging maniacs behind closed doors...I don't think that anyone can judge if someone is an abuser by their looks....jmo

I agree about how abusers can look like teddy bears. My ex was a snake in the grass, people just flock to him, but behind closed doors, he was was violent.

I have to say Ron does seem very violent per all police reports and flying off at the handle, but I do think Crystal was abused in some sort of way. Just sucks if she has its coming out now, instead of when she left Ron. But I had been abused so badly that at my divorce I nearly gave my kids over to my ex because he had abused me so bad, that I thought I was a worthless mother. To the point I was begging God to just take my life and to end it all because I couldn't understand what I did so wrong for him to punish me so.

If it hadn't of been my Mama and Daddy threatening me if I left the kids with him, they would take me to court, I probably would have left my kids in the den of hell.

Its hard to say whats going on between Crystal and Ron, but if she had been abused, perhaps her haunted look is a "what the hell have I put my daughter through" kinda look?

All entirely my opinion.

And she is with a guy that has a record for what?? domestic violence and has JUST gotten visitation back of his own children. She has been with him by someones math at least 21 months.. How do we know that abused look is not from him??? We do not.

Searching...you go girl! a voice of reason and fairness...here here!

[Jerseygirl345]

maybe Crystal has a haunted look in her eyes because her 5 yr old daughter is missing?

I think that we have all been touched by some sort of abuse in our lives...some hide it better...some claim abuse when there has been none...some men look like abusers and they are teddy bears...some are wonderful in public and turn into raging maniacs behind closed doors...I don't think that anyone can judge if someone is an abuser by their looks....jmo

I agree about how abusers can look like teddy bears. My ex was a snake in the grass, people just flock to him, but behind closed doors, he was was violent.

I have to say Ron does seem very violent per all police reports and flying off at the handle, but I do think Crystal was abused in some sort of way. Just sucks if she has its coming out now, instead of when she left Ron. But I had been abused so badly that at my divorce I nearly gave my kids over to my ex because he had abused me so bad, that I thought I was a worthless mother. To the point I was begging God to just take my life and to end it all because I couldn't understand what I did so wrong for him to punish me so.

If it hadn't of been my Mama and Daddy threatening me if I left the kids with him, they would take me to court, I probably would have left my kids in the den of hell.

Its hard to say whats going on between Crystal and Ron, but if she had been abused, perhaps her haunted look is a "what the hell have I put my daughter through" kinda look?

All entirely my opinion.

And she is with a guy that has a record for what?? domestic violence and has JUST gotten visitation back of his own children. She has been with him by someones math at least 21 months.. How do we know that abused look is not from him??? We do not.

Seaching

Thank you..

OS

The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

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snip JG....:The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

as were all of Ron's charges...

[Jerseygirl345]

Thank-you Jerseygirl 

Your welcome Rose...

[Sieko]

"Haleigh was last seen between the hours of 8pm and 10pm at her Satsuma home"

Huh?

http://findhaleighnow.com/Index.html

[Jerseygirl345]

snip JG....:The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

as were all of Ron's charges...

Yep Ron's. Domestic chrages dropped along with his long list of drug charges...

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snip JG....:The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

as were all of Ron's charges...

Yep Ron's. Domestic chrages dropped along with his long list of drug charges...

thank you JG...you forgot   
did you do your research today that you said that you would do Missy? remember last night? you left me and Searching hanging for info??? I was looking for you earlier...

[krimekat]

snip JG....:The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

as were all of Ron's charges...

Yep Ron's. Domestic chrages dropped along with his long list of drug charges...

You took my thought JG . . . smells hinky to me!

[Jerseygirl345]

snip JG....:The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

as were all of Ron's charges...

Yep Ron's. Domestic chrages dropped along with his long list of drug charges...

thank you JG...you forgot   
did you do your research today that you said that you would do Missy? remember last night? you left me and Searching hanging for info??? I was looking for you earlier...

Yes I have been searching- I got home late from work-7pm..

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snip JG....:The domestic violence was dismissed...It was posed earlier...

as were all of Ron's charges...

Yep Ron's. Domestic chrages dropped along with his long list of drug charges...

thank you JG...you forgot   
did you do your research today that you said that you would do Missy? remember last night? you left me and Searching hanging for info??? I was looking for you earlier...

Yes I have been searching- I got home late from work-7pm..

well the nerve that you had to work late! 
thanks.....xxx